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Speaker 1: And welcome once again folks. Do Big Blue Kickoff Live

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. The numbers always is two

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Speaker 1: Russ Salzburg, joined by my buddy today PAULI Dots Paul

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Speaker 1: to Tino. We want to remind all of you that

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Speaker 1: Giants prizes throughout the remainder of this season, which is

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Speaker 1: two games, and unfortunately it is playing now for strictly Pride.

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Speaker 1: There are no playoffs quite frankly, Paul, Uh, Well, you

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Speaker 1: know it was all wishful thinking. Realistically, and I've said

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Speaker 1: this several times. If they would have made it or

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Speaker 1: or one out, that would have been great. It was

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Speaker 1: no guarantee that they would have gotten in any way.

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Speaker 1: And the point is this, if they can win the

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Speaker 1: last two, seven and nine, considering where they were, that

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Speaker 1: still would be very good. Uh. They've one two more

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Speaker 1: than already than they've won last year. Is it disappointing

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Speaker 1: the last week? Sure, it is no question about it.

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Speaker 1: You know they came up. I call it a butt

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Speaker 1: kicking and old fast old fashioned whoop ass beating, whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call it. It was what it was,

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Speaker 1: and now they have to move forward. What I did

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Speaker 1: like yesterday, Paul, I got a feeling you're gonna agree

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Speaker 1: with me. I like the attitude from what I heard

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Speaker 1: from Pat Sherman and from the players. We're here to

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Speaker 1: win games. You know, Sterling Shepard was asked, now we'd

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Speaker 1: come into work, we're looking to get w's and we

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Speaker 1: move forward. There's no uh attitude that the games don't matter. Uh,

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Speaker 1: We're playing to win. And that's the attitude that they

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Speaker 1: should have. Well, you know, rus we we have both

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Speaker 1: been around some teams that did not have very good decembers,

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Speaker 1: and you have seen guys at times fracture. That's not

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Speaker 1: the case here. Pat Sherman and Dave Gettelman have done

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of work to build a unified locker room,

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Speaker 1: a locker room that's full of guys who care not

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Speaker 1: just about winning, but also for each other. And I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm not gonna start singing Kumbaya

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Speaker 1: or any of that other stuff. But what I am

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Speaker 1: gonna say is that's a really good locker room right now.

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Speaker 1: And the fabric and the foundation of what Dave Gettleman

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Speaker 1: and Pat Shermer have sought since the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: all season has started to grow here. And to be honest,

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Speaker 1: and I know that fans don't want to hear this.

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Speaker 1: The NFL doesn't want to hear it either. It's about

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Speaker 1: WS and l's when they print the standings and when

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Speaker 1: they send out playoff bits. I get that without question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I totally get that. But there's a huge butt here,

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Speaker 1: a huge but bigger than Dumble the Elephants. But if

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Speaker 1: you will, and that big butt says that the Giants

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Speaker 1: have done a tremendous amount of work of turning over

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Speaker 1: the dirt and putting new grass seed down so that

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Speaker 1: they could grow this thing into something really good moving forward.

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Speaker 1: And think about it. Thirteen active players on the team

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Speaker 1: this past week that were on the team last year.

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Speaker 1: Russ I would say right now, there's a very good

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Speaker 1: chance as many as three dozen of these players, maybe

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Speaker 1: even a couple of more, will stick going into two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. That is what will define this season as

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Speaker 1: a success and as a positive step moving forward. And

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Speaker 1: as long as you understand that, then you can swallow

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Speaker 1: it a whole lot easier than the folks who just

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Speaker 1: angry about, Oh, the Giants didn't do this. The Giants

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Speaker 1: didn't do that. They've got an old quarterback, they didn't

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Why soak yourself in that misery when

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Speaker 1: there really is one terrific positive to be gained from

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Speaker 1: this year, and that is they're a heck of a

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Speaker 1: lot closer to being a real playoff team than they

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Speaker 1: were twelve months ago. Well, I think you just hit

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Speaker 1: on something. They're closer than they were twelve months ago. Again,

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Speaker 1: this was a three and thirteen team. And folks, I

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Speaker 1: you know, don't want to hear it, and you're saying

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Speaker 1: to yourself, well, you know, Russell and Paul, this sucks.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's another losing season. We haven't gotten into

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Speaker 1: But again, as Paul said, thirteen guys remaining on the roster. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of work that needed to be done,

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Speaker 1: not just turning over talent, but attitude and culture. And

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Speaker 1: worse than the players, Well but we the fans fielded. No,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you, nobody was more piste off about

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Speaker 1: their performance. For lack of a better term, nobody was

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Speaker 1: more upset about their performance than the players. They got

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Speaker 1: got whipped and beat up. Okay, but you gotta move forward.

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Speaker 1: I love you know, people are trying to get you know,

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Speaker 1: Pat Sherman yesterday to say, well, we're gonna make this change,

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Speaker 1: and that change, I mean, how stupid can it be?

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Speaker 1: And you know some of the questions that nobody has

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Speaker 1: to agree with Russ, nobody has to agree with Paul,

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Speaker 1: nobody has to agree with you. But when you're asking

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Speaker 1: a head coach, what, what do you expect him to say? No,

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Speaker 1: Eli is done. No, we're gonna make a change. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. With two games left in

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Speaker 1: the season. That's what we're gonna do. We're gonna say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's stupid, it's silly. I mean the crap that I've

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Speaker 1: heard for the last three days. Is the team better without?

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Speaker 1: I mean heard on on on the fan, Is the

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Speaker 1: It's beyond silly. It's just flat out nonsensical. It's it's

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Speaker 1: Let me create something. It doesn't work that way, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that is being restructured. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it has begun this year. They started off miserable at

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Speaker 1: And whether trust me, the players are disappointed, Make no

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Speaker 1: mistake about that. They are disappointed. They wanted to believe

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Speaker 1: that they could have rolled, you know, run the table

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Speaker 1: and and have one that you know, would have won

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Speaker 1: their eight games. It hasn't worked out that way. So

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Speaker 1: now you know, if they can win the last dude,

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Speaker 1: they go six and two, well let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You know, they certainly do have their hands full this

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Speaker 1: week because that's a very tough team that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: just absolutely great football. I'm pretty sure that when you

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Speaker 1: know what, we're hearing all this talk about young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: all sensational. You get no argument for me there but

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Speaker 1: that fellow, that quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts got through

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Speaker 1: his injuries for a year and a half, Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: is back in a big way. Oh, there's as good

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Speaker 1: very strong argument that if you took thirty people and

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Speaker 1: asked them who is the comeback player of the year.

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Speaker 1: Ten would pick O'Dell Beckham Jr. Ten would pick Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: guys have really come off the canvas without question. But

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Speaker 1: I mean Andrew Luck has come all the way back

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Speaker 1: so that the Giants will be up against it when

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Speaker 1: they face It's tough game this way, It is a

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Speaker 1: very tough game, Uh, PAULI shall we open up? Two

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Speaker 1: oh one, nine, four or five one three? Is the number? Again?

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Speaker 1: is to games left. Let's start off with our friends

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Speaker 1: in Watertown, New York. Dylan, how you doing, Dylan? You're

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Speaker 1: on with Russ and Paulie. What's going on? Buddy? Hey,

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Speaker 1: how's it going today? Guys? Hello? Going? Okay? I normally

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Speaker 1: call from Canton, but I'm home from the holidays for

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Speaker 1: college now, so good for where where is home? Watertown? Okay? Good?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Um? I wanted to talk a little

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Speaker 1: You can run fast and make moves. UM. But I

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Speaker 1: you know who they really missed Sunday, They really missed

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Speaker 1: and then also fans comments on social media. Um, once

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Speaker 1: once the Giants flews, you know, and we've talked about

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Speaker 1: the narrative all year on the quarterback Eli Manning. But everybody,

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Speaker 1: you know, now they're jumping shipped and saying, well, Eli

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Speaker 1: all that because comparing both quarterbacks onun to, Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: out performed Marcus Mariota by far. Marcus Mariotaly I had

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but you know what. Listen, Dylan, You're

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, Eli, I'll perform Marcus. Marcus did

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Speaker 1: saying are important factors into having a constructive offense. Well,

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, none of those things were present, none of them.

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Speaker 1: I would submit to you that the great Johnny Unitis

427
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: could have been shut out on Sunday. The way that

428
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: everything fell apart for the Giants offense around Eli Manning

429
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Speaker 1: and I agree with that because I believe a lot

430
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Speaker 1: of the things the way they came into that game.

431
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: They came in saying that Barkney wasn't gonna beat them.

432
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Speaker 1: If they were gonna win this game, they were gonna

433
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Speaker 1: win this game throwing the ball. And the reason they

434
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: couldn't throw the ball because you're playing man the man

435
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: now you can send in these these exotic blitzes where

436
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: they were catching an offensive line off. There was some

437
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: place where Eli got time to told about he had

438
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: three seconds and coach by halftime. Yeah, but and by halftime,

439
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: by the way, the Giants had seven drops for the game,

440
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: and they had four by the time the first half

441
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: had come to an end, which did not help the

442
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Speaker 1: situation at all. Right, go ahead, I'm sorry, coach, go ahead.

443
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Speaker 1: And I still feel that they didn't have a lot

444
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Speaker 1: of separation. You didn't see guys running wide open through

445
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Speaker 1: that second um, They've made a half of job. And

446
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: I agree with that, But sometimes knows defenders was right there.

447
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: Titans played well, let's not kid ourselves now. The Titans

448
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: played a very very good defensive game and they deserve

449
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: a ton of credit for it. I thought Rabel did

450
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: a masterful job scheming it, but they executed as well. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think that's you just hit the nail on ahead

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Speaker 1: in terms of using the word execution. And that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what it was. And and I listen, uh coach and Paul, Uh.

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Speaker 1: For both of you guys, you're talking about a situation

455
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: that Giants went into that game without the top offensive well,

456
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: one of the top two offensive players, okay, the top

457
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver in Odell Beckham Jr. When I went down

458
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: on the field, like it was about just look, it

459
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: was an awful day. And I was I was confident

460
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Speaker 1: a coach of the Giants going into the game. But

461
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: it was an awful, wet, windy, cold, nasty day. And

462
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, oh, granted it was the same

463
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: weather for the other team, but you had no Odell

464
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior. You had no land in Collins. Weather was lousy.

465
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: This does not bolde well. And that's exactly what happened, Paul,

466
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Speaker 1: to your point, Yet they had some drops and this

467
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Speaker 1: and this and that, and that's the point. They were

468
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Speaker 1: playing without. They had key guys out. They didn't. We weren't.

469
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Speaker 1: They were weren't good enough to afford to be able

470
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: to make those mistakes good enough, they will flight out

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00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: terrible ten penalties, three sacks, no running game onsoever. Everything

472
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: that the Giants did on Sunday turned out to be bad.

473
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: It was just a horrible, horrible day. And coach Marvin,

474
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Speaker 1: you know how I harp on miss tackles. As bad

475
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: as the Giants were in compiling miss tackles, the Titans

476
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: were fundamentally sound. How many miss tackles do you think

477
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: they had in the game? Maybe five? You know, they

478
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: didn't miss a lot of tackles, and that they did

479
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: miss them, they had enough support. Yeah, after the after

480
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: the miss tackles, there was no brilliant defensive performance and

481
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: they deserved to get the shut out that they earned,

482
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: you know, and they're the reason we lost. It wasn't

483
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: what we didn't do. It was the absolutely well, I

484
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: would say it's a combination of the two. Now they

485
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: were Titans. Defense was sensation. They deserve a tip of

486
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: the cat without question, really do without question. And listen,

487
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: they stopped made life miserable, and that that's just what

488
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: it was. It was not a good game. But because Eli,

489
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: as we say, coaches, the lightning rod, Eli gets all

490
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: the heat. Thanks, coach, appreciate it. But he like saying,

491
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: I think the stayers are looking for a running quarterback.

492
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: That the thing they gotta understand is these these the

493
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: couch the coordinators. Eventually they catch up to running quarterbacks

494
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: and they do get injured, but they're basically figure out

495
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: ways to get to People think just because I'm stationary,

496
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm able to get stacked easy. It's just the way

497
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: that the defenses are designed to stop certain people. Everybody.

498
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: If you look at Lamar Jackson, he's running all eventually

499
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: to pick them to figure that out, and they're going

500
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: to trap him in some cases. He dug get. He

501
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: dug a coach, not the thing coaching that you want

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Speaker 1: in a quarterback. I believe what we want there's a

503
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Speaker 1: guy that had pocket um aware that's all you want,

504
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: not a running quarterback. You want a guy to have

505
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Speaker 1: pocket a win. So I just want to leave it

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Speaker 1: on that you guys appreciate it very much, buddy. You know, Ross,

507
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: I got, I got an angry twitter that came at me,

508
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: a tweet that came at me. In the last twenty

509
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Speaker 1: four hours. Somebody was screaming that I gotta have, you know,

510
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback. Gotta have a running quarterback. It's it's

511
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: absolutely imperative. Go punch up. Who Who's which quarterbacks have

512
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: been sacked most in the NFL? This is one Russell

513
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: Wilson press Oh okay, you know, I think number two

514
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: is DeShawn Watson and Wilson's right up there. And guys

515
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: who have guys who have a lot of good that

516
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: does them right. And oh, by the way, okay, so

517
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: so this one tweet really really really got under my

518
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: skin because the guy was screaming, how you have to

519
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: have a in quarterback? And I'm thinking to myself because

520
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: he said, it's boring watching Eli in the pocket and

521
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: him getting sacked and getting pressured all the time. It's boring,

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00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself. Okay, let's see, let's go back

523
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Speaker 1: to the ultimate scrambling quarterback of all time, Fran Tarking

524
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: scrambling France. Okay, for five years he was the Giants quarterback,

525
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: made a few Pro Bowls, had had one winning season,

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00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: one winning season, ran around like a maniac. Was a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. Don't

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00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I love watching Fran talking did play,

529
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Speaker 1: but running quarterback, how many super Bowl rings this Fran

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00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: talking didn't have, and he played for some really good

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Speaker 1: Vikings teams. You know why he doesn't have any super

532
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Bowl rings because even the great Vikings teams that he

533
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: took to the Super Bowl got man handled in the trenches.

534
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: They're running game featuring Chuck Foreman usually got neutralized in

535
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl by a bigger, stronger, more physical, and

536
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: dominant defense on the A F C side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: So they would take the running game away and they

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00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: would tell Fran, Okay, run for your life and see

539
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: if you can beat us, and Fran would run for

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00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: his life and usually get his head handed to him. Well, okay,

541
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: so you want you want the running quarterback, that's what

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: you get. You'll get fun, you'll get excitement, you'll get

543
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: some wild plays, but you're not going to get a

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00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. Well listen, I'm not gonna say you're

545
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: not gonna get a Sudds are against it running quarterback.

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00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: The point being just because you have the legs doesn't

547
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: mean you're not getting hit. See you know what that does,

548
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: You know what that does for us. I'm sorry, I'm

549
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: getting hot about this now because I I feel that

550
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: enough of tweets in the last couple of days. Here's

551
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: the thing. Here's the thing, Dan, can you tell he's

552
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: getting The running quarterback? Is nothing more than an excuse. Okay,

553
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: it's nothing more than an excuse. Every single expert or

554
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: fan who demands a running quarterback, basically, that's because they're lazy.

555
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: It's an excuse for the team not to build the

556
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: foundation of a good offensive line and a and a

557
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: good running game, because those things take time, they take effort,

558
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: they take coaching, they take knowledge. You gotta be good

559
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: in the draft, you gotta be good at free agency.

560
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: You gotta coach those guys up. Those are the things.

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00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: Those are the concrete pieces that a great house is

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00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: built on. A running game and a terrific offensive line. Yeah,

563
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: they're hard to come by. You gotta use a lot

564
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: of elbow grease to make that happen. But that's what

565
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: really good, smart franchises do. They don't hide behind. I

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00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: could have a running quarterback, because I don't. I don't

567
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: have a running game and I don't have an offensive

568
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: line to protect them, So I need a running quarterback. Yeah, great,

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Speaker 1: you're on our old today, buddy boy. It's it's it's A. Well,

570
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: here's the list. Poll. It's the lazy way out to

571
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: talk that way. I'm just not going to tolerate it anymore.

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00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: Here's the list, folks, UHO correct I stand corrected. Dak

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00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Prescott is not number one, He's number two. Uh. Most

574
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: sacks this year by a quarterback Deshaun Watson fifty two,

575
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: followed closely at number two by Dak Prescott and fifty one,

576
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: followed by Derek Carr with forty seven, followed by Eli

577
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Manning with forty six, Aaron Rodgers with forty four, Russell

578
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: Wilson with forty two, Matt Ryan, Marcus Mariotta each wee tea.

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Speaker 1: Eli and Ryan are the only two guys who would

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00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: not be considered running quarterbacks, right right? Mariotta forty, Matthew

581
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 1: Stafford thirty seven, you know, and on and on we go. Okay, So,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, how many of those quarterbacks you

583
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: just named have missed time because of injury? Somehow? The

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00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: great pocket passer Eli man hasn't missed any games because

585
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: of injury in oh a long time, like never in

586
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: his NFL career. Thank you, please go right ahead, Russ. Oh,

587
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: he's on a roll today. Folks. I'm glad it's him

588
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: not me. Let's go to Jackson here in Jackson, New

589
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: Jersey and check in with Timothy. How are you doing today?

590
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: Then you're on with Russ and PAULI dots, I'm fine?

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00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: How are you good? How you go? Fine? Well? Head

592
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: coach will return to the Giants next season? Yes, I

593
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: mean you know, come on, Timmy, thank you for the call.

594
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: But that that's getting a little silly. I mean, where's

595
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: he gonna go? I mean, Pat irm is here. So

596
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: let's let's not be ridiculous. Let's go to a courtney.

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00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: Courtney you're on with in New York Courtney. You're on

598
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: with Russ and Paul? How are you doing? What's going on? Russ?

599
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good? How are you doing? I'm

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Speaker 1: all right. I'm going to ask a question. I hope

601
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: you don't hang up on me as well. You think

602
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: that we should allow, We'll not allow. Do you think

603
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: that Eli should return next year for his final season

604
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: without questions? Okay, see, but my hair is from here,

605
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: my thing. Every week we have like the reporters, I see,

606
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm sureman goes to an interview and we have the question,

607
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: will you start to speek will Eli starting sweek? You'll

608
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: getting like redundant, like why do we have to ask

609
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: every week if Eli Manning should start? Good question, you

610
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: just sit on the head. But they're asking the question.

611
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: But but here's the thing. We have to sit back

612
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: and realize. They're not asking if Matt Ryan is gonna

613
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: start this week. They're not asking if Aaron Rodgers is

614
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: going to start this week. They're not asking if Tom

615
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: Brady is gonna start this week. But when you see smoke,

616
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: there has to be some fires somewhere. So the people

617
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: are asking if Eli is gonna start because maybe the

618
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: team needs some new energy, new blood. Okay, Cortney, so

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. All right, you know, think,

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00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: let's think about this for a second. Let's the point

621
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Speaker 1: that you're making. Okay, I get it, and I've said this.

622
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: Eli is a big boy. He can take the heat

623
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Speaker 1: and the criticism. All Right, Well, here you go. Let's

624
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: say you want to make a change. Let's say Courtney

625
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: is the the guy and you want to make a change,

626
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: or for whatever reason, you don't like Eli at quarterback.

627
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: All right, well what you're gonna do. You're gonna start

628
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: is Kyle Aletta. Your answer is Tanny, your answer, I mean,

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Speaker 1: give me an option. But to ask hold on a

630
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: second Courtney, to ask the same question each and every week,

631
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Speaker 1: it's not just redundant, it's silly because you know what,

632
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: you know what the answer is. Okay, But here's the

633
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: thing was with me, Russ. When the Giants say, well,

634
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: who are we going to start? We're gonna starry Letta

635
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: or Chanty. But the Giants have all right. Look at

636
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints, for example, the New Orleans Saints

637
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: have three court explained that roster just in Chase do

638
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: get hurt, they can plug in and play. When the

639
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: Giants go out and signed Handy that played three staffs

640
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: in nine years and have Kyler letter Courtney, come on,

641
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: I'm a let's be fair. You're talking. You're making a

642
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: comparison with a twelve win team and a five win team.

643
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: One is, we have a two time Super Bowl winning quarterback.

644
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: We should be oh, we should at least eight teams.

645
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: Now make Coartney, You're I have to strongly disagree with you,

646
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: and I appreciate your call. But you're talking about a

647
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: three and thirteen team last year. Okay, you're talking about Paul,

648
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: you tell them and you're talking about three and thirteen

649
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: team last year it was it wasn't just a quarterback.

650
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: They need fixing every which way. Let's go back to

651
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: it earlier point with only thirteen players on the team

652
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: from last year year. And if football, as many people

653
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: have said, and I do believe it, it's the ultimate

654
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: team game. How in the world are used to Are

655
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: you supposed to have a double digit win team with

656
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: a roster that has had that much turnover in retrospect? Now,

657
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, because I was one of those

658
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: guys at the beginning of the season. During the off

659
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: season it said it's possible, if every domino falls right,

660
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: that the Giants could sniff a wild card conversation, I

661
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: did say that if every domino felt right, I thought

662
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: that there was a chance they could sniff that. But

663
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: every domino hasn't fallen right. A number of important things

664
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: have gone wrong, including four different editions of the offensive line,

665
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: which by the way, is the number one thing that

666
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: has gone wrong for this team. But you're right, Paul,

667
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: But and nobody is more positive, folks. I say this

668
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: clearly because it's the truth. Don't know anybody who's more

669
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: positive about the Giants, who's growing up loving the Giants?

670
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: Anybody more than Paul Latino. But that said, Paul is

671
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: not the chamber of commerce. If there's things wrong, he'll

672
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: tell you that there are things wrong. But the thing

673
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: with Eli, you know, Courtney was asking questions, you know

674
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: where where they smoked is fired? I mean, Eli is

675
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: going to be the first guy to tell you I'm

676
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: closer to the end than the beginning. That's no secret question.

677
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: But here, every the minute he does something wrong, that's

678
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: the end of the world. They lost the game yesterday,

679
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: and you know, all of a sudden, I'm hearing, you know,

680
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's name brought up that hasn't been brought up

681
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: for weeks, like Sam. I didn't hear anybody Belly Aiken

682
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: whining about say Kwan Barkley being the Giants top pick,

683
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, at number two. I'm gon, I'm gonna take

684
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: you one better. Eli Manning is going to be the

685
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for this team in my estimation two thousand nineteen.

686
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I've been saying that for months. Okay, how much do

687
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: you want to bet? We'll put the money down right

688
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: now on the table. The Giants could win their first

689
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: eight games out of the box, and in week nine

690
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: when they lose and fall to eight and one, the

691
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: first question the writers and the fans are gonna want

692
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: to know is shouldn't he lie be benched? That's how

693
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: much vigor and and fire and and garbage has been

694
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: stirred up and thrown at the wall against this guy.

695
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: I still believe it's age discrimination because if I'm serious,

696
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: if he was thirty two, then nobody would look at

697
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: his performance and say that he deserves to retire or

698
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: deserves to be benched. They're they're attaching his age to it,

699
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: and that's why they're trying to run this guy off

700
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: the off the roster. I'll disagree with that, I um

701
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: because of the listen. It's that's happens in all sports

702
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: the minute. Once you are a a certain age, I

703
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: guess you could call it age discrimin. That's exactly what

704
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: it is. Once you reach a certain age, that becomes

705
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: an excuse when it's not happening okay, or it's not

706
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: happening as it happened in the past. It's just the situation.

707
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: And this is New York and it is the microscope,

708
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: and that's the way it is, and Eli can handle it.

709
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: But just because he can handle it doesn't mean that

710
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: it's fair. I mean, yesterday, the first question, they just

711
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: lost the game. They just lost the game. They got

712
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: their rear ends handed to them, and the first question

713
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: was about Kyle Loletta, a fourth round pick at a

714
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: Richmond that's your first question. It's remember this, folks, and

715
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: and Paul and I have said this several times. The

716
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: same people last year, the same exact people who were like,

717
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, killing the Giants for the benching of Eli Manning. Okay,

718
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: those people didn't care about Eli then they wanted but

719
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: it was a good narrative. It was a good way

720
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: for them to get at Ben Macadoo, who they didn't like.

721
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: So those they went after that situation then. But the

722
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: same people who criticized Eli's benching were the same people.

723
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: Forget now, after fourteen games, after they lost the second

724
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: game in his season to Dallas, everybody was on his

725
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: ass the next day. Oh they made a mistake, Oh

726
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: they made it, they drafted the wrong guy, or that's

727
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: what the narrative was. Then se Kwan shut everybody up.

728
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: You know, Eli had gone into Houston, won that game,

729
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: then it was one in seven, played one of the

730
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: best games of his career. I might yeah, I think.

731
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: And and by the way, Eli as a body of

732
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: worked this season, he's been better this year than he

733
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: was last year. He's improved last year last year for everybody,

734
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: but but he has improved. If you if you want

735
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: to say he's gotten better with the like fine wine,

736
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: I'll buy that too. Again. No, I mean, I use

737
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: the expression Eli is the lightning rod. The quarterback is

738
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: the lightning rod. And here in New York it's two

739
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: lightning rods. Let's go to the Poconos and check in

740
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: with Dan. Dan, you're on with Russ and Paul. How

741
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: you doing today? I'm doing great. Fall is always a

742
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: pleasure to talk to you two guys. I just had Okay, thanks,

743
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna beat on it too much because I

744
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: just had a call in because you know, thinking this,

745
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: I got a quick story for you. And then I

746
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: just want to mention about the news the news conference.

747
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: I live out in Pennsylvania and you know, doing some

748
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: chopping Christmas shop and then I get up, get up

749
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: to the line, and I get up to the register,

750
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: and the whole bunch of lined up registers in the

751
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: big store. And this guy's got this Super Bowl Champion

752
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Eagle shirt on, and I got my giant shirt on.

753
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: You know, we're like looking at each other. We're eyeing

754
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: each other out, you know, timing and life is everything. Dan.

755
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: I know he could have he could have handed it

756
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: to me. Good because he deserves you know, we kind

757
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: of deserve, especially after that that egg we laid on Sunday.

758
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: But he said to me he was actually a decent guy.

759
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: I was shocked. And he nothing, he knew anything, because

760
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: he's his statement he made. He says, he goes nothing.

761
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: Not he goes, hey, you know, you guys got you know,

762
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: a lot of young players, and he goes, but you

763
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. I'm like, but wait a minute. I said,

764
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 1: just wait a minute, because I just had this argument,

765
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: not argument. My wife and I were just talking about

766
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: the knuckleheads that want the quick fix. Oh yeah, get

767
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: rid of the quarterback. I said, listen, when we were

768
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: doing four and we should have been five and others

769
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: when we got robbed against you guys, I told him,

770
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: I said, nobody was saying we needed a new quarterback then,

771
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, but the first game and like Paul I

772
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: just heard you say they could go eight No the

773
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: first game. Bang, you know that's it. He lies the problem.

774
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's get rid of them, you know. But yeah,

775
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 1: you know what it is that the writers got tired

776
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: of writing about Oldell Beckham Jr. See, he's the magnet

777
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: that automatically gets them attention. And finally, when O'Dell came

778
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: into training camp, improved all of them wrong that he

779
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: wasn't holding out, and then when he signed his contract,

780
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: which proved all of them wrong again, they had to

781
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: find somebody else to get attention. And they've decided that Eli,

782
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback, is always the easy one. So let's just

783
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: make Eli the hot spot. That's what this is about. Yea,

784
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: how true? How true? And they're so disappointed, probably that

785
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: Odell has gotten my act together. And my own brother said, oh,

786
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: Odell is gonna have his breakdown after week six, week seven,

787
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm still texting them saying I'm still waiting for that

788
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: breakdown brother. You know, it never happened. So they're all disappointed.

789
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: But you know, thank god for the two of you

790
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: guys calling all those It was almost hard to listen

791
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: to that press conference. Every other question was like you

792
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: guys have pointed out and and Russ, thank you for

793
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: you pointing all this stuff time, especially that guy on

794
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: East ESPN about how you know that booger whatever his

795
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: name is. I mean, I'm just so grateful for you

796
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: two guys to listen to, you know, because you guys

797
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, all right? And and how

798
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: how long are those mobile core vaccine was gonna last? Right,

799
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: and you touched on that too, Eli never never, at

800
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: least there every Sunday, you know when these guys last

801
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: r G three came out. Oh my god, he's gonna

802
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: tear up the league. The only lasted a couple of years.

803
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: I could get running around like crazy people, and they're

804
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: gonna get it after a while. It's gonna get him once,

805
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: sooner or later. Well, thanks buddy. Alright, alright, Danny, listen,

806
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: Happy holiday, Marry christ Is you and the family. But

807
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: you till one n four or five one three? What

808
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: do you say? Polo? We head out to Vegas and

809
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: check in with Chip. How you doing? Chip? You around

810
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: with Rust and Paul? Hello? How are you you too?

811
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: Doing all right? Sir? How are you doing good? I

812
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: have to say you first for all I'm the norcer

813
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: for almost two years. I'm a first time caller and

814
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: I just wanted to speak with you both as I

815
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: value all your comments every highly. Thank you for chiming in.

816
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. What do you got I I just want

817
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: to say a couple of things. First of all, I

818
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: completely agree with what everybody's in saying about Elin. You

819
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: know that pretty much. Yeah, he he is a pocket passer,

820
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: that's where he is. And why do we need a

821
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback? It doesn't make sense. And in your opinion,

822
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: both of you don't agree that these mobile quarterbacks are

823
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: more sustainable to injuries. Of course they are. Of course. Look,

824
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: there's there's no question about that. If you relye too

825
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: much on one of these mobile quarterbacks to be the

826
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: key component in your offense, okay, you're doing you're doing

827
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: lip service to everything else on the unit. Because these guys,

828
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: they're playing with fire every time that they start running around.

829
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Like Amaniac r G three was to post the child

830
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: for this, it just doesn't make sense. Don't take the

831
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: lazy way out. Build the foundation, build the offensive line,

832
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: build the running game, and let me tell you something.

833
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: Once you do that, Okay, once you do that, you

834
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: can have Trent Dilfer, who, by the way, beat the

835
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: Giants in Super Bowl thirty five when he was with

836
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense. They had a terrific defense, but jomal

837
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: Lewis ran for two thousand yards ross. They had a

838
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: really good offensive line on a running game. But that

839
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: that success of that team, I get it, I get it.

840
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 1: But the point, the point remains, if I'm strictly gonna

841
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: talk about offense, when you build a solid offensive line

842
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: and you build a running game, and you take care

843
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: of those two things first, the current crete on which

844
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: your house is standing is as solid as a rock,

845
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: and you have a really good chance of being a

846
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: really good team for years to come. That is always

847
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: going to be the blueprint in professional football. Anybody who

848
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: builds the other way around reversing it by saying let's

849
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: go for the scrambling running quarterback, and they're gonna play

850
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: lip service to the other spots. They're going to be sorry.

851
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: But let's just be careful about one thing here. Okay, uh, Paul,

852
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: you and I certainly agree on Eli. Okay, I'm not

853
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: saying quote unquote a running quarterback, but let's let's not

854
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: downplay if you have a quarterback who you know is

855
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: a terrific quarterback in the pocket, who also has the

856
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: ability to to run. I mean, let's not downplay. You

857
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: know that it's a bonus having a guy with legs. Listen,

858
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: would you like is Pat Mahons a good quarterback? Oh? Sure?

859
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: But bonus is the proper word. It should not be

860
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: the priority. No, exactly that. Now you touched on something

861
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: else that I agree with the owners. Yes, but the

862
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: priority has to be the line and the running game.

863
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: Without question. Quarterback who has legs is a bonus because

864
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: it's not going to be the primary focus of your offense. Uh,

865
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. But but having a quarterback

866
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: who has this capability on top of everything else, that

867
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: is a bonus and that's a good thing to have.

868
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: I can't go ahead, Chip can't dispute that. What else, Jip,

869
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: no worries. Guys appreciate everything, and Russ I do agree

870
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: that quarterback doesn't need to have legs, and you know

871
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: what Eli does to break that at times, So you know,

872
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: I have no issues with that. It's great. So other

873
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: than that, I just have a theory, and please tell

874
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: me if you agree with this. It's kind of far fetched,

875
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: But don't you think Mike Rabel was kind of very

876
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: upset that the Giants took away his super bowling and

877
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: forty two and really wanted to, you know, make sure

878
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: that his team was ready. I'm just saying, you know,

879
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: I'm very, very hardworking with the loss, of course, but

880
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: I just look at it from the Titans are in

881
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: the middle of a playoff hunt. They badly, badly needed

882
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: the game, and he did everything you could to get

883
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: his guys ready, and they went out there and produced.

884
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anything more to be said

885
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: than that. Well it's also Chip, and thank you for

886
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the call, buddy. But listen, Mike verybel was a hell

887
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: of a player. It appears that he's a pretty good coach.

888
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: Had his team ready, and you know, that's your competitiveness.

889
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, you know, if he's got a

890
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: thing for the Giants, that adds him a little edge.

891
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he gets blinded by anything.

892
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: But you know, is it sweet for him to beat

893
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: the Giants? I'm sure it is. I get that understand understandably. So, uh,

894
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: you see who's online too, You see who's online? Toe, Oh,

895
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: here we go. He's mine. He wasn't right, enos, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie,

896
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: I could have been a contented Charlie. And this is

897
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: our friend Charlie from Portland, May And how are we doing, Paul,

898
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: what's going on? Charlie? I got a chime in on this.

899
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, A lot of Giants hands are just

900
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: up set because for the last five or six years

901
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: we haven't won. But that wasn't because of Eli. That

902
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: was because one X general manager didn't help us get

903
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: an offensive line for a lot of years when we

904
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: needed one, or a substantial running game. Yeah, and the

905
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: running game. And then also you gotta remember, like in

906
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, who was the best player on the

907
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: field for the New York Giants against that Packer playoff

908
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: game Number ten came to play was number ten with

909
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. He had about what six seven drops in

910
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: that game and he came with touchdowns too. Yeah, and

911
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Eli and escapability. Does anybody remember Super Bowl when he

912
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: escaped and threw that ball to Tyree in some escapability?

913
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: That really, buddy, thank you for bringing that up. And

914
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: I will never ever take anything away from David Tyree

915
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: for that miraculous catch However, that miraculous catch, You're dead

916
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: on chall Charles with without that miraculs That miraculous catch

917
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: does not happen without that unbelievable escape by one Eli Manning,

918
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: the guy who can run. Yeah, And also that he

919
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: tries to make a play. He threw that ball and

920
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: he said, my guys are going to go up and

921
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,959
Speaker 1: get it, you know, And and that's what he does.

922
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: And Eli is not the problem on this team. And

923
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: the other thing, if we end up winning the next

924
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: two games, and you're gonna remember, Eli's going back to

925
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: uh the uh you know, Indianapolis's uh stadium where he

926
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: wants super Bowl, you know, in two thousand eleven. Yeah,

927
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: Lucas Stadium. Right, you don't have a great game, He's

928
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: gonna have a great game, and he's gonna put up

929
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: some points. It's gonna be no, Rain's not gonna be

930
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: any win. And he's gonna remember playing in that stadium

931
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: and he's gonna remember that he wanted super Bowl there.

932
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna play real well. And if

933
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: we end up six and two of these last eight games,

934
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: tell me what's wrong with that? Well, you're preaching to

935
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: the choir on that, Charlie. Jeez, you know, I'll listen

936
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: to us here, we'll making sense with Charlie. Boy, it's

937
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna be a happy two thousand and nineteen. Charlie. That's

938
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: that's Hodes well for all of us. Hey, Eli is

939
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: not not the problem. Yeah, I mean, look at Dean

940
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: Marino is probably one of the greatest quarterbacks ever. Was

941
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: her running quarterback. But he can move around in the pocket.

942
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: That's all you need. That's all you need. You don't

943
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: need a guy running all over the place, you know,

944
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: extending plays because a lot of time, you know, like

945
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: you said, they're gonna get injured, They're gonna get hurt.

946
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: Jackson's gonna get hurt. I mean somebody at our time.

947
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: And uh, elis Mr durable just like you said, Paul.

948
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: I mean, the guys played every game and he could

949
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: have played that one game when they sat him down.

950
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: He had never been injured. Knock on the woods. And

951
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: and look at all the sacks he's taken into the years.

952
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he's must have taken public I don't the

953
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: most facts or he must be up there, you know what, Charlie.

954
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: To be fair, and I'm just gonna bring this point

955
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 1: up while you're on the line, because you're you're clearly

956
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: vocalizing an opinion that we share here in the studio.

957
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: But I want to say something. You know, people keep saying, well,

958
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 1: they see, they see, they see. Did you watch Peyton

959
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: Manning in his last year with the Broncos when that

960
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: team carried him to a Super Bowl championship through defense,

961
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: special teams and basically a front and and a run

962
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: game that was able to do everything else and basically

963
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: allow him to be the custodian of that Super Bowl team.

964
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: If you compare that edition of Peyton Manning to this

965
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: edition of Eli Manning, you could tell that Eli is

966
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: nowhere near finished yet. Peyton was on his last legs.

967
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: He was on fumes in his last year when he

968
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: won a championship with the Broncos because all of the

969
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: other components were there for him. Okay, right, right, Charlie,

970
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean you've seen it. Eli looks nothing like what

971
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: his brother looked like in his last year in the NFL.

972
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: By the way, Charlie, exactly. I think he just brought

973
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: this up. For his career, Eli has been sacked, uh

974
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: and still counting four hundred and five times, and so

975
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: far at forty six. Uh, that is his high mark,

976
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: which is his previous high with two thousand and thirty

977
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: thirty nine. So he's he's already at seven more with

978
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: two games still left to play. Yeah, I mean he's

979
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: Mr Durable, he's Mr Clutch. He still can play. And

980
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, because that's not saying, Hey, if they want

981
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: to draft a young quarterback next year at some point, yeah,

982
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: fine do it. But he is not done and unless

983
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: he decides he doesn't want to play anymore. But it

984
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: sounds like he's still having fun. He's getting into in

985
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: celebrations with the with the guys. The guy wants to play.

986
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: He can't play. And if we end up six and

987
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: two after you know what when we started one and seven,

988
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: is going to be our quarterback next year? You know

989
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: what's funny? You know what's funny, Charlie. When the Giants

990
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: had a good offensive line, Coughlin and the Giants were

991
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: always in the playoff hunt, and they won two Super

992
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: Bowl rings. After that line got old and finally graduated

993
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: from the NFL and moved on, and then they weren't replenished.

994
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, the Giants stopped making the playoffs. Gee,

995
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: what a coincidence. Happy happy holidays about for four years. Hey,

996
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: happy holiday with Charlie. Happy holiday to you and your family. Look,

997
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: we just finished the fourteenth game in the season, and

998
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: it seems like the Eli narrative just doesn't go away,

999
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: and it's not going to go away, right. It took

1000
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: a little respite for the last you know, because they

1001
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: won four out of five games and that was okay.

1002
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: But you know, and quite frankly, the minute they lost

1003
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, it was back then we had a

1004
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: reprieve and then it's back. It's just that's the way.

1005
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: And next year, if he doesn't go sixteen and oh

1006
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: and run the table through a Super Bowl victory, they're

1007
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: gonna start throwing arrows out him again. But that's just

1008
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: the way it's gonna be. Fortunately, Uh, Eli is made

1009
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: up of what he's made up of, which is, you know,

1010
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: steal insides. You know that that that opie from Mayberry

1011
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: Exterior doesn't tell the story about one tough cookie in

1012
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: Eli man. Anyway, folks, that is a rap on today

1013
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: our thanks to our producer Dan across the way handling

1014
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: the boards as always, my buddy Hire Pauly dots I

1015
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: am russ Salzburg. Many thanks to you people out there.

1016
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 1: This duo will be back here tomorrow, so we look

1017
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: forward to hearing from you again. Meantime, have yourselves a

1018
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: great evening.