1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm with Lucas and this is Black Tech, Green Money. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Jackson is a community manage. You're at LinkedIn, empowering 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: thousands to implify their authentic voices. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: And strengthen their personal brands. That's just in ninety five. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: She's also a founder of the Blond Misfit Misfit creative 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: media and actor award winning journalists and content creator who's 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: transformed her a side hustle into a global powerhouse. 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: I want to talk about black content creators. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: You know, you see a lot of black content creation 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: and you are a black content creator, but a lot 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: of us are making a lot of mistakes when we're 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: trying to build a brand. What is one of the 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: things that you see, like, y'all should stop doing that. 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: We gotta stop doing this. 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 3: Yea. 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: I love that question. 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: I love that question a lot because it's almost like 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: when you're at the at the family cookout of the 19 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: reviews and you're hanging out with your cousins and them 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: and they're like, how can I step up better? And 21 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: you like, stop doing this? Yeah, yeah, and for all 22 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: So for all of my cousins out there listening, I 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: would I would say, I see we make the mistake 24 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: of don't we don't brag enough, we don't carry our receipts. 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: I think receipts are so important in today's job economy because, 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: if you think about it, a lot of people do 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: what you do. Right, Let's start there. I don't pull 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: any punches when it comes to this. A lot of 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: people are good at what they do. A lot of 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: people have your job title, they work at your company. 31 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 3: They want to be where you're at. But what sets 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: you apart is your unique story and the way in 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: which you tell your story, your narrative, and your ability 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: to answer the question will why meet. I think society 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: does a disservice because it's taught us, as black creators 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: that our blackness is not a superpower, and it absolutely is. 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: Being able to code switch, being able to speak English 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: and African American vernacular English right, or ebonics or whatever 39 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: you want to say, Like being able to straddle these 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: worlds is a superpower that other people don't have. And 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: so when I tell people all the time, like talk 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: your talk, I'm saying it from the sense of, like, 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: don't be cocky, right, because we all know that one 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: person who talk a whole lot but they can't fight 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: in the club, will. 46 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: Like they can't fight. 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: But I mean, like, bring your receipts, show why you 48 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: are a unique value add show how your experience has 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: positioned you or your experiences have shaped you. You know 50 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: a lot of black creatives. We know what it's like 51 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: to juggle multiple jobs. We know what it's like to 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: have a non linear career path. That is your superpower. 53 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: And so really, when I'm talking to a lot of 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: our creatives, when I'm talking particularly even on like LinkedIn 55 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: and how you position yourself, don't get so caught up 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: in figuring out how to brand yourself as professional. Learn 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: how to brand yourself in the sense of if someone 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: didn't have you on their team, what are they missing 59 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: out on? 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: And that is where your story and where that superpower lies. 61 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: How do I know if my LinkedIn profile is me 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: opportunities versus creating opportunities for me? 63 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: I love that question a lot, because we always need 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: to be asking ourselves if we're losing out on the 65 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: money or if we're attracting it. I would say a 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 3: couple of things that you should think about is if 67 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: your LinkedIn is accurately portraying the person you want to 68 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: be seen as in the rooms that you want to 69 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: be in. We have a really dope episode on Let's 70 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: Talk Offline around personal branding, and I say on that 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: episode that you are a brand, whether you want to 72 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: be or not, Like we all are a brand because 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 3: rooms that you're not in, somebody is saying something about you. 74 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: And even though you can't necessarily control where people talk 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: about you, you can't. 76 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: Control what is said. 77 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: And so when you're looking at your LinkedIn profile, you 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: need to be asking yourself. Am I telling the proper 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: story here? Am I reflecting all of my experiences? Am 80 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: I utilizing my creativity? I'm always perplexed when I talk 81 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: to creatives and they're not being created, Like, see your 82 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: LinkedIn profile as an opportunity to be creative, And there's 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: so many ways you can do that. If you love 84 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: to write, You're about me section should be fire. I'm 85 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: not talking about that whole like it looks like you 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: just spin it out in AI and it just came out. 87 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: Tell a story. Who are you? Where did it start? 88 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: Where did your passions start? Where do you uniquely add 89 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: yourself to the conversation. If you like to write, you 90 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: can explore obviously your feed in posts, you can explore 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: your newsletters. But a really amazing format that we've seen 92 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: continuously grow at LinkedIn is short form video. Right I'm 93 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: talking like your two minutes or less vertical videos. It 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be fancy, it can be shot on 95 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: the phone. Those are so great because you can still 96 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: provide professional insights, which is where LinkedIn is unique to 97 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: right like, but your professional insights are still through the 98 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: lens of how you see the world, and so like, 99 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: I always like to tell the story that, you know, 100 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: I was dealing with somebody in my life who I 101 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: looked up one day and I was like, bro, you're 102 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: a hater. 103 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: Like you're an actual. 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: Professional hater, Like you know, whenever something good happens for 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: me professionally, like you don't know how to show up. 106 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: And so I made a video about that and I 107 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: posted on LinkedIn. I'm sitting on the bathroom floor, I'm 108 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 3: doing my makeup, and I'm talking about professional haters, and 109 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm sharing. 110 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 4: How you need those people in your life. 111 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: You need people who doubt you, You need people who 112 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: don't believe in you, because that builds character and it 113 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: makes you see who really has your back and the 114 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: good times and the bad. I looked up and within 115 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: twenty four hours I had gotten over a million impressions. 116 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: To date, that's one of my best performing videos on 117 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: LinkedIn with over three points some million impressions and more. 118 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: And that video alone showed me people want real. People 119 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: want real, people want authenticity. People can smell fake a 120 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: mile away, and that's on the platform too. So I 121 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: always say, find unique and creative ways to tell your story. 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: That's not gonna cost you a bag, it's going to 123 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: actually attract Because the type of opportunities that came after 124 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: that were great. People then really wanted to tap in more, 125 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: particularly with the podcast, because they were like, Oh, like 126 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: this girl just gonna keep it real. 127 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 4: She's gonna be honest, she's silly. 128 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: And so I would definitely say like taking the time 129 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: to look and say, like, if I were a recruiter 130 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: or a hiring manager, if I was an investor, if 131 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: I was a sponsor, if this is all I saw 132 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: about this person and I didn't do my due diligence 133 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: to look them up on any other platform, which most 134 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: people don't, you got one. 135 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 4: Shot is this reflecting who they are? 136 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: And I say, you got to you gotta know how 137 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: to do that professionally, but also in a way that 138 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: is true to you. Like I don't ever want anyone 139 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: to see any of my content and they don't see 140 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: my personality, they don't see what I uniquely bring because 141 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, when I'm in that room, 142 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring it, you. 143 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 144 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: And so I think like that's where a lot of 145 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: people make the mistake. They're not exploring the creative ways 146 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: in which they can tell their story and they're not 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: seeing themselves as a brand. The minute you start carrying 148 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: yourself like a McDonald's or a Coca Cola or a 149 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: Chapotle or any of these other household names, is the 150 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: minute that you can just control the narrative and you 151 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: attract the opportunities that want to tie to that narrative 152 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: as well. 153 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you to go further on that, and 154 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this from a different perspective. Is 155 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: because you talked about leaning into who you are, leaning 156 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: into your creativity, leaning to your culture, leaning into your blackness, 157 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: how has black representation in media evolved to allow us 158 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: to be able to do that and then not be 159 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: off putting. 160 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was privileged to go to an HBCU. 161 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: Shout out to Howard, shout out to all my Bison family. 162 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: It's all love no matter where you went, right, But 163 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: I always got to put a little extra on for 164 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: the Bison. I was very blessed that growing up, I 165 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: was taught a lot about my culture. 166 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: Being from like the Washington d C. 167 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: Northern Virginia area, I was always surrounded by that, whether 168 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: it was in the church or being an actor in 169 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: community theater, or then going to an HBCU and learning. 170 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: And I think what I've seen in media, particularly over 171 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: the years, is like it's not all just about telling 172 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: a certain narrative or a story. When we talk about 173 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: us not being a monolithic people, we're often talking about 174 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: it from the lens of Okay, we don't all come 175 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: from a major city, or we don't all come from 176 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: a certain socioeconomic background. But very few times are we 177 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: actually saying when we say black people are not monolithic, 178 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: we're also talking about a diversity of thought. We don't 179 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 3: all think the same. 180 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: And I think. 181 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: Nowadays in media, you can find a little bit of 182 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: everybody on social right. You can pop out your phone 183 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: and you go and see the celebrity gossip sites, but 184 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: you can also, you know, find a podcast like yours 185 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: are Mine, where we're talking about other topics. Like I 186 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: like to show people I'm from round a way, as 187 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: our uncle Denzel Washington says, but I'm also a black 188 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: girl in tech who can show you that you don't 189 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: have to become anybody else to win. 190 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: You are enough. 191 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: And I think, like what I would like to continue 192 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: to see is more of our stories continue to take 193 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: over in media to show people, and especially this next generation, 194 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: you don't have to do certain things in order to 195 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: get ahead, Like you get to define your destiny, You 196 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: get to define your story and who you are is enough. 197 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: Because let me tell you something. 198 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: Well, when I first started out as a journalist and 199 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: then as a blogger, and I was working in fashion 200 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: and beauty, I was trying to paint myself a very 201 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: specific way because that's all I saw. I saw all 202 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: the other black girls in fashion move in a certain 203 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: type of way or act in a certain type of way. 204 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 3: Now one of them things. I couldn't do all that 205 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: because I wasn't as skinny as them. Okay, your girl 206 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: had hips, and I was like I ain't gonna be 207 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 3: able to do the no sample size is of nothing, 208 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 3: all right, And so I was like, Okay, now I 209 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: gotta find my own style. I gotta find my own flavor. 210 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: And I remember just looking up one day and I 211 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: was like, this isn't me. Like a couple of my 212 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: friends even called that out there, like who you paint 213 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: yourself to be online is cool and all, but like 214 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: that's not you. And it really kind of put a 215 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: battery pack in me to say I am robbing myself 216 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: and more importantly, the people who are assigned to me 217 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: by not being true to who I am. And I 218 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: just want more people to see that. I want people 219 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: to hear it. I want it to get deep down 220 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: in their spirit. Who you are is enough, and that 221 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: authenticity is what is going to differentiate you from anybody else, 222 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: any name of any day of any day of the week. 223 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: I don't have to be nobody else. Everybody else is taken. 224 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: As they like to say, Jamay is not. And I'm 225 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: gonna tap into Jamay because when Jamae is Jamay, can't 226 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: nobody else do Jamay, you know? And so I think, 227 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: like for for media, I just we're continuing to see 228 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: more of our stories take place. And you know, when 229 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: this opportunity came about for let's talk offline, I'm not 230 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: gonna lie. 231 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: I was just like, y'all. 232 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: Want me, like you know what I mean, like like me, 233 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: like I don't know about that, you know, because I've 234 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: also been very open and honest about the idea or 235 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 3: interpretation of what black professionalism looks like. And I was like, Okay, cool, 236 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: I'll do this, but under the understanding, I'm not sugarcoating things. 237 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: I'ma be honest, I'm gonna be real. 238 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: And in a lot of our episodes, I talk with 239 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 3: my co host Gianna and I tell her, like, your 240 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: experience is yours because you're not black. You know what 241 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean, And you know you might shake up the 242 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: table a little bit, but it needs to get shook, like. 243 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 4: It needs to get shook because we're doing too much 244 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 4: of this. 245 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: Let's be sweet, let's be kind, like no, let's call 246 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: it for what it is, because at the end of 247 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 3: the day, I want the next generation of young Black professionals, 248 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: young Black creatives, young black entrepreneurs, change makers, thought leaders 249 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: to say, Okay, I know what's ahead of me, but 250 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: I also know that like me being true to me 251 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: is enough and I can open those doors. 252 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk about, you know, personal branding 253 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, because I think there's some value you can 254 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: help a lot of us with in regards to this. 255 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: You know, Sorry, there was some boards I used to 256 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: sit on and I remember going to those boards, and 257 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: those meetings would typically be at like the end of 258 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: the day, and everybody would come to the board being 259 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: with suits on and etc. And I'm like, after a while, 260 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: after going home to change clothes and put on a suit, 261 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: because I don't wear a suit to work every day. 262 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: I work for myself, and this is what I look 263 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: like going to work. I'm right, I'm not going home 264 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: to put on a suit anymore. Though I'm adding values 265 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: to this board. So I'm going, how I not going 266 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: to be appropriate, but I'm not going home to put 267 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: a suit on. 268 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: And so my question is. 269 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: This, It's so often we have this view specifically on LinkedIn, 270 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: like when you said, you know you sitting on your 271 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: bathroom floor talking about professional haters, and I'm like a lot, 272 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: like many people will be afraid to put that video 273 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, and I'm like, Instagram's a place for that 274 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: TikTok's place for that whatever wherever, it's a place for that, 275 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: but on LinkedIn, like, oh, that's there's some guts right there. 276 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: And so I want you to talk about the misconceptions 277 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: people have about personal branding on LinkedIn, because in my view, 278 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: it was a lot like I'm going to be who 279 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: I am in this professional space because I know I'm 280 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: adding value. So I'm okay coming with you know what 281 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: I got on and not going home to put a 282 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: suit on, which is what I felt like so long 283 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn. I gotta be this on LinkedIn. I can 284 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: be this over here on that other app, but over here, 285 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: I gotta be this. 286 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what you felt going into those meetings 287 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 3: and saying like, no, I'm ana stand tento's down on 288 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: who I am is exactly the same thing you should 289 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: have when you come to LinkedIn. 290 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: Now, don't get it twisted. 291 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: I was sweating bullets before I posted that video because 292 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: now I'm thinking to myself, my manager is connecting me 293 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: on LinkedIn, like my coworkers connected like they gonna think 294 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: I'm talking about them, like and you know, at the 295 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: end of the day, you know, a hit dog will 296 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: holler whoever is for it's gonna pick right. But I 297 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 3: think I had to ask myself, is the. 298 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: Reward worth the risk? 299 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: Is the reward of who this piece of content can 300 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: bless or inform or help? Is that worth the time 301 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: imporary risk of feeling uncomfortable that I put it out there, 302 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 3: or that nobody is gonna vibe with it. That's kind 303 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: of the job of being a creator. You listen to 304 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: what you know you need to put out there, and 305 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: you put it out there with the hope that it 306 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: touches people. But whether it touches one or it touches millions, 307 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: you've done your job. What I would say, though, is 308 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: that if you ever are feeling like nervous about that, 309 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: like do a self check in. Are you nervous because 310 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: it's new and it's foreign, Are you nervous because you 311 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: think somebody is gonna judge you? Or are you nervous 312 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: because really, if you sit with it, you're like, this 313 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: is not an appropriate topic for me to talk about. 314 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: And I didn't have that last one. 315 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: I knew that this was just uncomfortable because I had 316 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 3: never seen anyone talk about that particular topic on LinkedIn before. 317 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: Now the thing is LinkedIn is still a place. 318 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you go and you find jobs, right, But like, 319 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: it's so much more than that. And this is where 320 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: going back to one of your questions before about where 321 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: we're making a mistake. We are still approaching this platform 322 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: as a job search platform. Our counterparts are not doing that. 323 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: Our counterparts are showing up on this platform every day, 324 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: building community, networking with people, sending people happy birthday in mails, right, 325 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: like posting the video being okay with looking cringey or 326 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: like weird at first, as you learn how to hold 327 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: the phone or how you learn how to you know, 328 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: put b roll. People are becoming comfortable with failing in 329 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: front of people, and it's actually building the community that 330 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: is then going to give them the economic opportunity that 331 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: they need later on. And so what I would say 332 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: is still see this platform as a place where, yes, 333 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: you show up a certain way, right, Like I wouldn't 334 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: cut up on LinkedIn away, You're gonna see me cut 335 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: up on Instagram stories, right, Like brunch is not necessary 336 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: for this platform. But I have learned a lot of 337 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: the topics that we're thinking about. If it applies to work, 338 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: it can belong on LinkedIn. You just have to ask 339 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: yourself how do we analyze this? And this is actually 340 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: something that you know as we were really thinking about 341 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: our episodes, you know, because for like, for instance, like 342 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: let's talk offline, we're talking to gen Z and early 343 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: career professionals. 344 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: But there's two things here. 345 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: One, no matter where you are in your career, everybody 346 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: can learn something about navigating a toxic manager, right or 347 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: building workplace friendships, or finding a mentor or asking for 348 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: that first promotion. 349 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: Everybody can learn from those things. 350 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: But you also are trying to figure out, Okay, how 351 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: do I do this in a way that doesn't just 352 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: feel like it's just scattered. It's so speaking to like 353 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: one individual person. That's where your LinkedIn profile comes in, 354 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: and that's where like you get to build this unique 355 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: audience of people who may follow you on other platforms too, right, 356 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: Like I've had some people who I've bought in from 357 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: my LinkedIn persona and then they come to my other 358 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: platforms and the like, you're the same person, it's the 359 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: same thing, will as like who you are around your 360 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: your parents might be different than who you are around 361 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: your grandparents, different from the church folk, different around you boys, 362 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: Like everybody gets a piece of you but it's not 363 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: that you're not being true and authentic. 364 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: You just know how to move into each individual room. 365 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: So you got to ask yourself and think of that 366 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 3: the same way for your LinkedIn profile. But I would 367 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: definitely say we are underestimating our ability to know how 368 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: to tell our story and to still attract the people 369 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 3: that we need to attract. Get that fear out of it, 370 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: post it, take a walk, go get some coffee, Go 371 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: do whatever you got to do, get on the game, 372 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 3: rite whatever you gotta do, and. 373 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 4: You'll start to see a little bit by a little bit. 374 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: Showing up authentically each day builds that audience and that 375 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: community people who come to respect you for just being real. 376 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: So social media has social platforms, I should say, have 377 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: increasingly become like portfolios, you know, for creators. So how 378 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: should creators think about their body of work? 379 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 3: Look, I always say receipts. Receipts are currency, you know 380 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: what I mean? You know, going back to this idea 381 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: of like why you If I'm a recruiter, I want 382 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: to see, like what have you done and what do 383 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: you have to offer that somebody else may not? And 384 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: sometimes those are the smallest deciding factors between you and 385 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: another candidate, whether you're looking for a job or you're 386 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: looking for whatever else. I've posted everything from short form 387 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: video clips. I obviously post the clips of the podcast 388 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: right because think about it, there's always gonna be someone 389 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: who that's the first time that they've ever discovered it, 390 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 3: and I love that idea. There's some I don't remember 391 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: who I was talking to the other day. I was 392 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: talking to somebody and they were like, you know this creator, 393 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: and they showed this creator to me on the phone 394 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: on their phone. The creator has millions, like tens of 395 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: millions of us will if that person had been walking 396 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: down the streets from New York, I would have never known. 397 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm been like, I've never seen this person a day 398 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: in my life. 399 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: And it was such a wonderful reminder to me that 400 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: we think everybody has already seen everything. No, you gotta 401 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: keep putting your stuff out there, and you got to 402 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: be very bullish about being your own marketing professional, Like 403 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: you got to get the stuff out there. So everything 404 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: from internships that you've had to essays to campaigns or events. 405 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: If you have a podcast, are you posting your clips online? 406 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: That's creating a funnel for people to go watch the 407 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 3: longer version. If you have it with video or if 408 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: it's just audio, are you constantly driving back people to 409 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: where they can find more of you? I think that like, 410 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: if you really sit down and you think about all 411 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: of the dope projects or the things that you've touched, 412 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: nothing is ever lost, right, And this also comes down 413 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: to transferable skills. Now, I'll tell you something as someone 414 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: who is also an actor, one of the things I've 415 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: had to learn is that how the industry was years 416 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: ago is not what it is today. Years ago, you 417 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: did the traditional I'm going to out keep auditioning, hopefully 418 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: I get booked, I get enough projects, I get an agent, 419 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: and then the agent takes over. Nowadays, there's so much 420 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: more people than the work. So going back to this 421 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 3: idea of how you're going to stand out, this is 422 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: why you have actors nowadays, who are scriptwriters, who are directors, 423 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: who are teaching all these other things. Because you can't 424 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: be a one trick pony anymore. And so this is 425 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: not just in the entertainment space. This is for everybody. 426 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 3: So if you're not getting the opportunities, create the opportunities yourself, 427 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: all right, you don't need all this fancy equipment to 428 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: start recording video. You don't even need all this fancy 429 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 3: equipment necessarily to start a podcast. Start, create the minimal 430 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 3: viable product, create a proof of concept, and show people 431 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: here's what I can do with this. Because if I 432 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 3: could do this with this, imagine what I can do 433 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: with a lot more. And I think this is where 434 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: the portfolio comes in. 435 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: If you can. 436 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: Show people you already are that person, right Like I 437 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: always like to tell people, I was always that girl. 438 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: I just got a little bit more money, but I 439 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: was always that girl. But I proved myself to be 440 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: that girl when I was, you know, at a lower 441 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 3: place in my life, so that it only was natural 442 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: that as more opportunities came, I could continue to elevate. 443 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: You got to see the same way for yourself, in 444 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 3: the same way for your portfolio, and particularly for LinkedIn. 445 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: What I like about LinkedIn, and it's not because I 446 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: work here, it's because I've just genuinely seen it, is 447 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: that you can marry so many of your communities here. 448 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 3: If you like video, there's a place for that. If 449 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: you like audio, there's a place for that. If you 450 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: like to write, there's a place for that. Like I 451 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: have so many different communities in my LinkedIn portfolio quote 452 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: unquote that I really like, and I just think that, like, 453 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: we got to just keep tapping into that. But at 454 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 3: the end of the day, show goes, receipts, show the 455 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: receipts like that. 456 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: What advice do you give to content creators who want 457 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: to advocate for themselves? They want to put themselves in 458 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the position to have deals, brand deals get picked by 459 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, these brands who want to engage but they're growing, 460 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: but don't know how to pitch themselves. 461 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: How do you do that? 462 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 3: Man looks as an entrepreneur myself, I can tell you 463 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: I've pitched myself both good and very bad. Okay, I'm 464 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: very very thankful that I made a lot of mistakes privately, 465 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 3: because now when you get a little bit more public, 466 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: you kind of get a little bit more leery of 467 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: making mistakes. But I'm very thankful for that time too, 468 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: because I do think we all need a training ground 469 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: and stuff. I always tell people like, are you perfecting 470 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: yourself in the private because once he's public, what's the showtime? 471 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 4: Is showtime? You know what I mean? 472 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: Everybody wants something. Everybody wants this idea of what they 473 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: think success to be. But I always ask myself, are 474 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 3: you preparing yourself for that? Because you can get it? 475 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: But then what happens? Right, It's like the same thing 476 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: as people want the million dollar brand deal, but baby, 477 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: if you can't even juggle the five hundred dollar brand deal, 478 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: your deliverables are late, the product is trash. You have 479 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: poor communication skills. How are you preparing yourself for that 480 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: bigger blessing down the road? 481 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 482 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: And so when it comes to pitching, it comes down 483 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 3: to again the proof of concept, and it shows in 484 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: this idea of showing your receipts. It's also about being bold. 485 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: And you know, as I've gotten older, I've come to realize. 486 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: Like you just got to take the risk. You got to. 487 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: Take the risk, but calculated risks, right, Like I'm very 488 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 3: calculative in the sense that like, I'm not just going 489 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 3: to go into anybody's in anybody's room and ask for something. 490 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna come knowing that I have something to bring, 491 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: and here's where the value is. I would definitely say, 492 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: like being someone who is confident in what you have 493 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: to offer, but also being okay with being rejected is 494 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: good too. 495 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 4: Not all money is good money. 496 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: And I know people don't want to believe that, and 497 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: I know it's particularly when you're trying to. 498 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: Pay them bills. You really don't want to believe that. 499 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: But sometimes saying no to things is actually a setup 500 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: for a bigger yes later down the road. And so 501 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 3: I always say, when you think of that pitch, ask yourself, like, 502 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 3: what are the biggest things that this person needs to 503 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: know about me? 504 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 4: How can I show how I have already done this? Right? 505 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: Like, how have I already operated in the space in 506 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: some way? And this is where transferable skills comes in, 507 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: Like what have you done that's similar to this that 508 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: you can speak to? And then lastly, how do I 509 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: position myself in a way where like I'm showing you 510 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: I am. 511 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: The person for the job? 512 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: Right? 513 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 3: We actually we actually talk about this in an episode too, 514 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 3: where we're like, someone, you know, how do you when 515 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: you when you first come out of college? 516 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: And everybody is like, how do I get the job? 517 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: And then we're all like, do I put the job 518 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: that I had at Starbucks? 519 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 4: Do I put that down on the resume or not? 520 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 3: And some people might be like, nah, don't put that down, 521 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: But like The pushback is, but if there were transferable 522 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: skills of you working. You know, I've had a lot 523 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: of jobs in retail, a lot of jobs in hospitality, 524 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: and let me tell you something that built me for 525 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 3: good customer service. That now as a community manager here, 526 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: I got to know how to talk to people because 527 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: sometimes people be. 528 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 4: Trying you and you can't just say whatever you want 529 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 4: to say. 530 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, So I just say, like, 531 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: use every opportunity and experience have had and craft the 532 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 3: narrative as to how that built you, but also how 533 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: you added to it. Numbers are always going to win, 534 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: So quantifying your successes, quantifying anything you can helps tell 535 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: a brand a story. But then also being a good 536 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 3: person also goes so far. People like to work with 537 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: good people, people like to work with kind people. 538 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 4: So if you can present yourself. 539 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: To be someone who is collaborative and fun and engaging, 540 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 3: who comes with creative ideas, but then also you have 541 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: those receipts to back it up, I think you're good. 542 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: You know, you manage a community of more than seventeen 543 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: thousand on LinkedIn, you run your own side business also 544 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: more than ninety thousand people you serve there. How are 545 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: you how are you distributing your content making sure that 546 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: you're serving these folks? Well, are you cross pollinating your content? 547 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Is the same content across places? 548 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: Like? 549 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: How are you doing that in two different directions? 550 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 551 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 3: I always say, like, we all only have a certain 552 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: amount of hours in the day. So if if I 553 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: create a piece of content, everybody about to get this content. 554 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: Everybody's about to see this, and we gonna see it 555 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: a couple of times. I definitely believe in boundary setting, 556 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: particularly when it comes to work. So for me, like 557 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: even though my you know, teammates and the company and 558 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: everybody knows like the things that I work on on 559 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 3: the side, like, I do believe it is very important 560 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: for me to distinguish the jama Jackson brand from the 561 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: Jamaic Community Manager brand. And a lot of people sometimes 562 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 3: be like, no, merge, merge, merge, But I'm like, that's 563 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: where I think we have to also say, like I 564 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: have to have some type of ownership on something too right, 565 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: And so for me, I think, like creating content, I'm 566 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: always looking for what is the thorough line between my audiences. 567 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: My audiences for the Jamai Jackson brand are a lot 568 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: more black and brown creatives. It's people who have watched 569 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: me grow up through the ranks, people who saw me 570 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 3: move from DC to New York, people who saw me 571 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: try to go from fashion and beauty to then journalism 572 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: to now acting and then also working in tech. And 573 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 3: my LinkedIn audience is a lot more expanded, right, But 574 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: particularly it's like, okay, but you also have to figure out, well, 575 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 3: what is the thorough line here? Everybody is always trying 576 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: to figure out how can I be better? Everybody is 577 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 3: always trying to figure out what are the new trends 578 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: we're seeing, what are the new things we're seeing in 579 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: the job market? 580 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: How do I stand out? It's a tough job. 581 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: Market, you know what I mean, And so I always 582 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 3: like to speak to what the commonality the differences are, Okay, right, 583 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 3: Like if you want to see me do like the 584 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 3: super blackly black combos, because that is what I'm going 585 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 3: to do. There's a platform and a space for that. 586 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 3: But when I also think about how can I service 587 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 3: my audience, I'm also thinking like where can I get 588 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: the most bang. 589 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: For my buck? 590 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: And for me, I find like the commonalities of helping 591 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 3: people show up authentically, figuring out how do you build 592 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 3: your personal brand, how do you build your own personal 593 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 3: mission statement? How do you build the confidence to take 594 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: up space that allows me to cast everybody? 595 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 4: And sometimes that's what you me. 596 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 3: You need people, You need the messaging that is going 597 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: to touch more people, because then that draws back people 598 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: are like, Okay, cool, I like it. Let me check 599 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 3: out what other content she creates, So let me see 600 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: what other things that she does. So yeah, I think 601 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 3: boundary setting is so important a particularly as a creative 602 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: ownership is important. But I also think that when you 603 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: just show up and you share the content that you 604 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: know is going to really matter. 605 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 4: To people, then that kind of you make the cell there. Right. 606 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: This is why I also tall because I work with 607 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 3: a lot of sales and marketing professionals and I'm always like, 608 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: stop telling people you got the best product on the market. 609 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 610 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 3: Stop stop because that doesn't do anything for me. If 611 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: you tell me you know, I have the best coffee 612 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: in all of New York. That's different than you telling 613 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: me like, half a cup of my coffee will keep 614 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: you up to finish that job proposal you've been working 615 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 3: on for three weeks or something like that. Right, Your show, 616 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: don't tell. And I think as creatives, we have to 617 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: show show your impact. You don't tell us your impactful. 618 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: Anybody can say that, but I show. 619 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Me like that, Like that, I cannot get out of 620 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: here without asking you about AI. You knew it was 621 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: coming and is here, so I think about you know, well, 622 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: actually I'm just asked what kind of tools are you 623 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: using to help streamline your workflow? 624 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Like are you using AI? What kind of AI are 625 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 2: you using? 626 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: Like what do you suggest, based on the kind of 627 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: content you deliver people should be using to get you know, 628 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: to make more impact and do it efficiently. 629 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 630 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: I mean it's really cool because I'm seeing like so 631 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: much excitement for AI, especially around like gen Z and millennials, 632 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: you know, who are really thinking that AI is going 633 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: to help them progress in their careers. 634 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 4: And I believe it. 635 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: You know, I had the honor and privilege of attending 636 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: Afrotech for the second or third time a couple of 637 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 3: weeks ago, and AI and innovation with something we talked. 638 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: About a lot. 639 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: And it's interesting because I think that as much as 640 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: we're talking about it, so many people are still being 641 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: left behind because they're scared. I think we should embrace it, 642 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: and I think that we should explore how can we 643 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: start leveraging things like AI skills and AI learning. I mean, 644 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: one of the things I always tell people is, first 645 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: of all, LinkedIn has LinkedIn learning courses right what you 646 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: can sign up for and you can actually learn a 647 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: lot about AI. You can at least start to learn 648 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: the immediate jargon right of things that like you might 649 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 3: not know or like you might have questions about, to 650 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: just at least familiarize yourself with it. For me personally, 651 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: I like to use AI for a lot of things, 652 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: and so like, for instance, like when I'm mapping out 653 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: my week, I will use like a claud or a 654 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: chat GPT to say like, Okay, here are my biggest 655 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: priorities of the week. 656 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: Help me prioritize based on X, Y and Z variable 657 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: yeah yah, yeah yeah. 658 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: As a writer or as a creator, sometimes I'll even 659 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: think of like okay, here's the topic that I want 660 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: to touch on, and here are some key talking points, 661 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 3: like help me at least create an outline. Now here's 662 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: where I think people make the mistake. Will people are 663 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: using this AI and then they just spit it out 664 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: and then they just and you can tell I'm like, 665 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 3: now you have never been able to formulate a sentence 666 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: of Daniel life now all of a sudden, right. 667 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 4: Right exactly. 668 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: So I definitely say like the AI as a partner, 669 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: don't see it as as something that, like you know, 670 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 3: is going to take away from your creativity. It can 671 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: enhance your creativity if used properly. And I'm just kind 672 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: of continuing. I'm just I think that this is just 673 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: a skill that we're going to continue to see. The 674 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: great thing about AI, I think is that it doesn't 675 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: just touch the tech market, right, which I think is 676 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 3: a lot of people's mistake they think AI is only 677 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: touching tech. If you can start to familiar familiarize yourself 678 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: with AI large language models, what these what machine learning, 679 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 3: what all of these terms mean, and how you can 680 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: get a piece of it, you won't be behind the 681 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: wave when we see because we've already seen the first 682 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: wave of AI happen. But I think we haven't even 683 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: seen yet all of the possibilities of what's going to 684 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: happen over the next few years. This is where we 685 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 3: start to build when we talk about building that generational wealth, 686 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: when we talk about getting into these roles that are 687 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: going to set us up when we talk about how 688 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: we can be the pushers of culture, because we already 689 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 3: are as black people, we already push the culture, we 690 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: create the culture, but then we allow the culture to 691 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: then dictate what we do. No, if you know how 692 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: to move and if you know how to put yourself 693 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: in the rooms, you can dictate the culture, and you 694 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: can dictate the culture because at the end of the day, 695 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: it's not just about what you can do for you. 696 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, 697 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: how can I use these gifts, talents and skills to 698 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: further my community and further other people who may not 699 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: have access to the things that I have access to. 700 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: Black Tech Green Money is a production to Blavity Afro 701 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Tech on the Black Effect podcast network in night Hiart 702 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: Media and it's produced by Morgan Debonne and me Well 703 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: Lucas with the addigital production support by Kate McDonald, Sarah 704 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: and Jaden McGee. 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