WEBVTT - Mailbag! - Skrull Powers, Recommendations, Marvel, and more!

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Jason Caonceepsion and I'm Rosey Night and

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to x ray Vision, the Crooked media podcast where

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<v Speaker 2>we dive into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 3>In this episode, in the air look, it's a big

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<v Speaker 3>mail bag. Baby, canna answer real questions and a no

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<v Speaker 3>doubt guess what? It's another question and we're gonna answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into our bag.

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<v Speaker 2>We're stepping out of the air lock and into the

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<v Speaker 2>mail bag to answer your questions. Swatty asks what are

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<v Speaker 2>you reading and loving? Always love hearing your recommendations for

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<v Speaker 2>books and graphic novels.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie, what do you read?

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<v Speaker 3>I have been reading many great things. I recently wrote

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<v Speaker 3>an entry for Polygon's Best Comics of the Year so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and it was for a self published comic by

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<v Speaker 3>a graphic novelist and cartoonist who I love called Olivia Stevens.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's most well known. She did a really cute

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<v Speaker 3>younger reader's book called Artie and the Moonwarf. But she

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<v Speaker 3>has published on gum Road and it on yeah, basically

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<v Speaker 3>online you can find it and it's She's published a

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<v Speaker 3>book that is called Darlin and her other names and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a black and white adult horror western romance

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<v Speaker 3>werewolf comic, and it is just like the coolest, most atmospheric, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's eighty eight pages long, but you will read

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<v Speaker 3>it really quickly and then immediately read it again. And

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<v Speaker 3>that that really blew me away. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 3>really great. I'm also reading a really scary novel cool

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<v Speaker 3>but a God in It's Yeah, which I love. I

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<v Speaker 3>love a scary but I called A God in the

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<v Speaker 3>Shed by JF. Debou and it is like really scary.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like a cosmic horror meets true detective

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<v Speaker 3>about like a small town that's next to a forest

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<v Speaker 3>where there's been all these serial killings, but a young

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<v Speaker 3>girl kind of starts to realize that it's not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>what it looks like, and there's might be like this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of elder god esque monster in their mist. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's really I've really been enjoying that. I love a

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<v Speaker 3>good I love a good cosmic horror story, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>it's like really scary and kind of grim, And this

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<v Speaker 3>is that good small town nowari horror. So those two

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<v Speaker 3>have been big on my list.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have any scary woods.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Lived very much in the city, but there was a

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<v Speaker 3>forest that you could go to called Epping Forest. I

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<v Speaker 3>have to say I always found it quite magical. You

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<v Speaker 3>had to go quite it's what felt like quite far,

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<v Speaker 3>but I could. I did often think about like getting

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<v Speaker 3>lost in the woods being quite a scary experience. What

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<v Speaker 3>about you, did you have a scary wood near you?

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<v Speaker 2>I also lived a very urban and suburban on the

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<v Speaker 2>edges of urban existence, but I had a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>sort of nature areas that were quasi magical, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least places where in the in the Steven Spielberg sense

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<v Speaker 2>of things, like kids could be kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, kidshit.

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<v Speaker 2>One was so there was a there was a like

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<v Speaker 2>a three acre four acre abandoned lot next to creepy

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<v Speaker 2>next to the middle school called all the Kids for

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<v Speaker 2>as long as anybody can remember, called the cornfields.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like crash cars there.

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<v Speaker 2>There was like some kids over the course of like

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<v Speaker 2>two months built like a BMX track, like just shovels

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and it was totally like wooded over. It's

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<v Speaker 2>where we would go and like watch fights.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yea, yeah, just go through the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to the cornfields and watch someone get their head

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<v Speaker 2>caved in, but it was It was also like full

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<v Speaker 2>of rabbits, which was really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was awesome and very magical realism, just

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<v Speaker 3>like an unexpected bunny.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were like turning, you know, hitting our teens,

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<v Speaker 2>but not so we weren't like, oh, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>cool yet, but we were kind of yah had more

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<v Speaker 2>agency in our childhoods. We would go there, especially at

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<v Speaker 2>night and when it was raining and like quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>explore the cornfields with like flashlights, like I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we used to do that, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like a normal It was a park called clissl Park,

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<v Speaker 3>which was right in the middle of the neighborhood where

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<v Speaker 3>I lived, like Stone Newington. It was like opposite my school.

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<v Speaker 3>But we would go there at night and it would

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<v Speaker 3>be like terrifying. Our parents would always be like, don't

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<v Speaker 3>go and hang out there at night, and we'd be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, We're just gonna hang out our friend's house

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<v Speaker 3>and tell one friend just hanging somewhere, and one friend

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<v Speaker 3>you're hanging somewhere, and then you end up well just

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<v Speaker 3>meeting in the park and like nothing nefarious ever happened,

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<v Speaker 3>but the threat of it was definitely always there in

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<v Speaker 3>the in the dark woods.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I grew up across the street from a sump.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what a sump is? I do not

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<v Speaker 2>know what a sump is a sump. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>the word sump was a word that I just thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a universal word.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that it's maybe a made up word,

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<v Speaker 2>or it's certainly maybe maybe a regional word. Sump is

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<v Speaker 2>a large basin in which collects like rain water and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but like huge, like the size of like two football fields.

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<v Speaker 1>They have these all around Long Island.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess to you know, collect water that I guess

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<v Speaker 2>then gets one would hope filtered.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow to a drinking water spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived right across the street from this, and we

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<v Speaker 2>would sneak into it pretty regularly when we were kids

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<v Speaker 2>and like build a little forts and catch frogs and

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<v Speaker 2>like set very very controlled fires and stuff. But one summer,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's like a dead possum.

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<v Speaker 1>Like at the entry.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a big, big, like rain collection tunnel that you

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<v Speaker 2>could go into like a pretty far ways and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I ever went in more than like fifty yards,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you could go you could go in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was this like dead possum there, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like somehow that became like the most interesting thing

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<v Speaker 2>to like observe for months was just this possum decomposing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very Stephen King, Well, yeah, it's like your child

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<v Speaker 3>and you're on the edge of like life and death

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<v Speaker 3>and understanding like mortality, and it's all taking place in

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<v Speaker 3>like a natury space that the book I got in

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<v Speaker 3>the shed it actually has that is kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>opening space is very much in that like stand by

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<v Speaker 3>me space before it kind of switches into this really

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<v Speaker 3>dark thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so gosh, what am I? I've been rewatching Deadwood?

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<v Speaker 2>So after a secret and I was like, I need

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<v Speaker 2>great dialogue. I need you, like I need some of

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<v Speaker 2>the best TV writing to ever that's ever happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So I uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I burned through all three seasons of Deadwood plus the

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<v Speaker 2>movie like in such days recently, and then just because

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get enough, I went I've been I have

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<v Speaker 2>a subscription to newspaper dot com, which is an archive

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<v Speaker 2>of newspapers from all around the world that goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to like the the early eighteenth century. Like we can

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<v Speaker 2>find like broadsheets from like seventeen sixty in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I just like started reading newspapers from uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the late nineteenth century that mentioned like characters from Deadwood,

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<v Speaker 2>and I found some really really cool ones, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>the Philadelphia Times April seventh, eighteen ninety five, and it

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<v Speaker 2>has a very very long and well written feature about

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<v Speaker 2>called the Deadwood Coach, and it's all about like the

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<v Speaker 2>history of this stagecoach which was now coming to an

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<v Speaker 2>end over in Deadwood that was used to take gold

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<v Speaker 2>which was being mined on illegally mined on indigenous land

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, and taken out to you know, places

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<v Speaker 2>in the country quote unquote the actual nation of America

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<v Speaker 2>where it could then be you know, transferred to a

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<v Speaker 2>bank or whatever. And this thing ran for fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you know, under threat of various road agents

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<v Speaker 2>and raiders and.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you.

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<v Speaker 2>Very interesting article. So I did that, and let's see

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<v Speaker 2>what am I reading.

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<v Speaker 1>I am reading.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still reading The Revolutionary Spring and History of the

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<v Speaker 2>Revolutions of eighteen forty eight, like Justopher Clark, very good,

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<v Speaker 2>super super interesting, and kind of it kind of steals

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<v Speaker 2>the hope from you, Rosie, because it's like all the

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<v Speaker 2>shit that we're concerned about right now. Are these exact

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<v Speaker 2>same issues minus like climate change that people were concerned

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<v Speaker 2>about in eighteen thirty, eighteen thirty five, eighteen forty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>in the various German principalities, and it's all throughout Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's that part of it makes you a fuck

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we're fucked, Like we're just trapped in this

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<v Speaker 2>matrix loop and we're never going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of it. But it's very interesting and it's

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's illuminated. It's been illuminating to see like

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<v Speaker 2>the early evolution of some of the political terminology that

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<v Speaker 2>is so readily today, Like what did liberalism mean in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen thirty eight?

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<v Speaker 1>What did conservatism mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I've been reading this Elmore Leonard novel Freakydky,

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<v Speaker 2>just from oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We're about a

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<v Speaker 2>bomb plot run by kind of these aging hippies. It's

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<v Speaker 2>set in like the eighties, so it's like hippies we

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<v Speaker 2>are now in their thirties and maybe they've messed around

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<v Speaker 2>with some of the kind of like alt leftist Weatherman's

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<v Speaker 2>style politics of the sixties and now they're turning that

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<v Speaker 2>into how can we get money by building a bomb

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<v Speaker 2>or pretending to build a bomb, or threatening someone in

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<v Speaker 2>the bomb. It's you know, if you like Elma Leonard,

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<v Speaker 2>and you should, it's just it's a wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah. Oh you know what you actually inspired me

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<v Speaker 3>was there's a book that I've read it a while back,

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<v Speaker 3>but I always recommend it to people. We haven't spoken

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<v Speaker 3>it about on here, and it's very relevant right now

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<v Speaker 3>with the strikes and everything. There's a really great book

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<v Speaker 3>written by Kim Kelly, who's a brilliant music journalist and

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<v Speaker 3>labor journalist, called Fight Like Hell, and it's like an

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<v Speaker 3>untold history of American labor organization and it's just so

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<v Speaker 3>good and it gives you so much insight into again,

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<v Speaker 3>how a lot of the stuff that we're fighting for

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<v Speaker 3>has always been fought for. But it has an inspiring

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<v Speaker 3>bank because it's like, look what it's achieved. Like if

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<v Speaker 3>we organize, look what can be achieved. So I've been

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<v Speaker 3>really thinking about that a lot, and I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people who are on strike at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>or who are supporting the strikes in the entertainment industry

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<v Speaker 3>would do really well to read it because it's great,

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<v Speaker 3>and it kind of reminds you that what we're fighting

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<v Speaker 3>for is what everyone's fighting for, just at like different levels,

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<v Speaker 3>and people have actually achieved incredible stuff through organizing via labor.

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<v Speaker 2>I should add quick strike update. The MPTP has reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to the WGA and said let's talk this Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>So the ninety day we'll be listening to this. The

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<v Speaker 2>negotiations theoretically will have restarted in the now near one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred day strike of the WGA against the AMPTP.

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<v Speaker 3>Will be very interesting to see what happens there. And now,

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<v Speaker 3>on a completely different page, Tyrannosaurus Greg asks, if you

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<v Speaker 3>were going to be given the super Scroll treatment and

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<v Speaker 3>could get powers and abilities from only four characters like

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<v Speaker 3>our classic Super Squirrel cut, who would you pick. They

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<v Speaker 3>can be from any fandom, not just comics, but one

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<v Speaker 3>only one from each. Jason, this is a huge question.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you What would you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I would do one.

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<v Speaker 2>I would uh kitty pride phasing powers and walk through walls,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. It just is very efficient, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot easier if you know, of course you could there

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<v Speaker 2>are numerous illicit activities one could achieve with this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also, yeah, I'm not gonna do any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I would take oh gosh, let's keep it X Men.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jeene Gray's telekinesis. I'm in the process of moving,

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<v Speaker 2>and the thing that's terrible about moving is like actually

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. And I can't tell you how many times

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been like, I wish I could just like

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<v Speaker 2>imagine all my stuff in the other place and just

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<v Speaker 2>make that immediately happen. Then I would do, uh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>hot take Doug Leman. Director Doug Leman, I think has

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<v Speaker 2>pound for pound maybe the greatest IMDb in terms of quality. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe in recent movie history. I don't let's just talk

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<v Speaker 2>about his movies. I don't actually think he's made a

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<v Speaker 2>bad movie. And with regards to that, I would then

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<v Speaker 2>take the powers from his two thousand and eight film Jumper.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that is a good one, especially mixed with the

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<v Speaker 3>Kitty Pride powers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so Jumper is about it's kind of like Highlander

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<v Speaker 2>meets X Men, where Hayden Christensen discovers that he has

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<v Speaker 2>this power just just spontaneously teleport to anywhere in the

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<v Speaker 2>world world. Uh, and I forget actually limited. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's got to see a picture of it, or yeah, you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to have seen it at some point, but it

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<v Speaker 3>can be a picture, it can be a postcard or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. And then he runs it. There's like

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<v Speaker 3>a secret community of people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Have like this is the Highlander. That's the Highlander aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of it, where there's actually like these people and there's

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<v Speaker 2>two different sects, like the Paladins and then the other

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<v Speaker 2>ones who are trying to stop them, and then this

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<v Speaker 2>like war of Jumpers has been going on for like centuries. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been like, fuck, that's a cool that's a

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<v Speaker 2>cool power to just be like, I'm gonna go to

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<v Speaker 2>see it. I'm going to Paris, I'll be I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>back in five minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna delicious soft cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will return with some soft cheese, some wine,

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<v Speaker 2>and some salted meats. Okay, So and then you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back to the

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<v Speaker 2>X Men once again, and I'm gonna go Doug Ramsey, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>who can understand any language.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a really sick power.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just feel like this isn't it like a

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<v Speaker 2>cool like utilitarian power that you could have when you

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<v Speaker 2>would just like under whether it's coding languages, sign language,

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<v Speaker 2>a living island that is like speaking in very very

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<v Speaker 2>low frequency murmurs, or any like human based language, you

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<v Speaker 2>would understand it. I just feel like that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the coolest powers ever underutilized. I would add, yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>agree for me in the in the I think I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, imagine like the the Wonder Woman Acquest, she's like

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<v Speaker 3>a diplomat, Doug Ramsey would be like the ultimate diplomat

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<v Speaker 3>or the ultimate spy. You could have an incredible Doug

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<v Speaker 3>Ramsey story somebody pay me and Jason will Riott like

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<v Speaker 3>we just paid it. Well, Doug Ramsey was gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>on my list because ever since I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 3>there were two things I always wanted. If I imagine

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<v Speaker 3>like a genie was going to give me something, one

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<v Speaker 3>of them one of them would be like one of

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<v Speaker 3>my wishes would obviously be to wish for more wishes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so that's out. And then the two other wishes

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<v Speaker 3>I would have that wouldn't break the genies rules was

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<v Speaker 3>to learn to not be able to speak every language

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<v Speaker 3>and understand every language and write every language, and then

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<v Speaker 3>just to be able to be really good at skateboarding.

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<v Speaker 3>I realized you could just teach yourself how to skateboard.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still not really good, but I can skateboard. Learning

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<v Speaker 3>every language not as easy. So I will take that

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<v Speaker 3>power okay as well, and then maybe just be with

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<v Speaker 3>Doug Gramsy power. We're just gonna be globetrotting enjoy. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>you you've get a good point because now you're now

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<v Speaker 3>you're a jumper and you can speak every language. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you cause that's imperfect. You can just be living life.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to take the green Lantern power of like

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<v Speaker 3>having you know, what does that mean? Like in the

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<v Speaker 3>super squirrel sense, Like would I need to wear the

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<v Speaker 3>ring all the time? Would I just have the willpower?

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<v Speaker 3>But I love the willpower. I think it is also underutilized,

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<v Speaker 3>even though green Land is one of DC's biggest characters.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like everyone always just imagines like a girl

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<v Speaker 3>or a giant fist. I could be imagining so much stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>cool stuff. I just go around, imagine people are house,

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine myself a mansion, imagine a spaceship, go to space,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine all my things being moved to my house, and

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<v Speaker 3>like make a moving van and make like little moving

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<v Speaker 3>Greenland and will power things to move things. I hate moving,

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<v Speaker 3>So you really inspired me with that on. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Greenland and powers, Doug Ramsey powers. I'm still playing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of Diablo Force, so I'm just taking those necromancy powers.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>So the necrovitive powers are very There are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them, which specific Okay, Necroo, would.

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<v Speaker 3>You take if I am taking? I want the power

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<v Speaker 3>where if I kill people as I do on a

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<v Speaker 3>regular basis, I can just raise them up and make

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<v Speaker 3>them evil skeleton monsters, like if I'm a super scroll.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems like it would be a useful power for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So even though I wouldn't use it in my day

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<v Speaker 3>to day life, that would be my one offensive power.

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<v Speaker 3>Poor Doug Ramsey doesn't have very many offensive powers. Why

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<v Speaker 3>I was often seen as one of the weakest New

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<v Speaker 3>mumans uh and my last power I was also gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>I was also thinking Jean Gray because obviously we're like

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<v Speaker 3>extreme X Men stands. But you know what it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so annoying to be a telepath. If you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the X Men cannon like people are always hearing

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<v Speaker 3>people's voices. You're hearing too much, stressful stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is why I specifically only wanted the telekinesis.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to like stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You just want to I don't want to read minds.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to read. Are your telekinesis that has

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<v Speaker 3>a good power? You could also get it from Carrie

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<v Speaker 3>or Matilda. You got so many telekinetic options.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't quite well, I don't want to get it

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<v Speaker 2>from Carrie, just because I feel like those are a

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<v Speaker 2>little curse powers.

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<v Speaker 3>Matilda she had the powerful telecanesis, but I would probably

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<v Speaker 3>go for storms powers just because they're really cool I want.

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<v Speaker 3>And also you could do a lot of good if

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<v Speaker 3>you can like go around making it right, you goodself

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<v Speaker 3>crime JS. Why isn't she doing that? Let's think bigger guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she lives.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like thinking about colonizing the GLEX. You're not even

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, she's like, I'm dumb my lakehouse on Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, I'm overrat.

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<v Speaker 2>Just quickly let me go through Doug Leeman's AMDB getting

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<v Speaker 2>in I've never seen I don't know nineteen ninety six, Swingers,

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<v Speaker 2>good movie, nineteen ninety nine, Go really good movie, Sarah movie,

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<v Speaker 2>outrageously good movie. And I think for my money, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most accurate on drug scenes I've ever watched

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<v Speaker 2>in any movie. Uh. Two thousand and two The Bourne Identity. Already,

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<v Speaker 2>that's an incredible run. Swingers Go The Bourne Identity two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and five. Mister and Missus Smith, I mean we

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<v Speaker 2>were just hot. Two thousand and eight Jumper underrated. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why it didn't do that well.

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<v Speaker 1>Haynen Christiansen.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not the not the box office.

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<v Speaker 3>People definitely got like a cult following now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I enjoyed it quite a bit. Fair Game, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not not my favorite. Okay, there's a miss

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen Edge of Tomorrow. Wow, Stone so classic.

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<v Speaker 3>Somehow I'm still underrated even by how much people like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Somehow it's still it's so good also.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, okay, so that run from from ninety six to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen is just epic.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what I and that's one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>things actually is like I remember this was always an

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<v Speaker 3>old Twitter, in the old days when Twitter was like

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<v Speaker 3>a pure place where people would just be like, what

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<v Speaker 3>are like, what's this cool thing that you can quote

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<v Speaker 3>tweet with a fact or something. One of them was

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<v Speaker 3>always like which director has the best like three movie

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<v Speaker 3>run where it's just like boom boom boom, and there

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<v Speaker 3>is truly some great ones, So that Doug Leaman one

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's very good. Swingers Go the Borne id Any

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<v Speaker 2>also a collective run, very very eclectic. X Ray Vision

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<v Speaker 2>And we're back next. Jacob asks, do you think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a good idea for the MCU to leave so

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<v Speaker 2>many stingers unresolved in Phase four? Unlike in Phases one

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<v Speaker 2>to three where they created forward momentum, It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>none of these Phase four singers have led to anything Yeah, interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I think? Or Rosie, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I think it's about so. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a mixture of two things. I think that the original

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<v Speaker 3>phases of the MCU were very definitively planned, so it

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<v Speaker 3>was easier for the stingers to be like, oh, Colson's

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<v Speaker 3>there with mol near that means we're going to meet

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<v Speaker 3>thor you know, it was like it was, it was

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<v Speaker 3>very simple. I feel like now we're in both the

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<v Speaker 3>blessing and the curse of being in the weeds of

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<v Speaker 3>the comic book world, where they're doing something that's a

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<v Speaker 3>bit more like comic Bookie, which is they're just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of letting the people who make the movies do a

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<v Speaker 3>cool stinger that they like the idea of that that

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<v Speaker 3>opens the door to something. So you're talking about like

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<v Speaker 3>a stinger with star Fox and Pip the Troll, characters

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<v Speaker 3>most people have never heard of. But the promises like

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic stuff. It promises Adam Warlock, you're talking about that

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<v Speaker 3>really cool? And now okay, I'm going to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>then are there eternal Stinger? But like the Stinger where

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<v Speaker 3>you have you know, Black Knight and the and the

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<v Speaker 3>Ebony Blade, and you have the voice of Blade, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like, is it going to be like

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<v Speaker 3>an m I three like Supernatural team up story? And

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<v Speaker 3>I do think that it has weakened the impact the

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<v Speaker 3>hercules real at the end of thought, I do understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think it has weakened the impact for people,

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<v Speaker 3>not even just casual viewers, even for me, like there

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<v Speaker 3>were stingers there that made me really excited. And it

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<v Speaker 3>does feel kind of jarring to not immediately see where

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<v Speaker 3>they're going or see them come to fruition. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's it's I do think they've been sowing cool seeds.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about like the shang Chi ten rings. You know

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<v Speaker 3>it's a beacon. Where did that lead to?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I understand where Jacob's coming from. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>feel like with the right person or people in the future,

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<v Speaker 3>those things will be easy to tie together to feel

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<v Speaker 3>like they're leading somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, the issue is that the

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<v Speaker 2>tail has to go where the dog goes, and the

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<v Speaker 2>dog right now doesn't quite know where it's going exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean that's really fact.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really the kind of issue is. You know, there

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<v Speaker 2>were several There are a lot of structural things happening

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<v Speaker 2>as you transition to phase four. Many of the legacy

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<v Speaker 2>stars are moving on, don't want to do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to build up new stars to carry the

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<v Speaker 2>h to carry the series forward, the universe forward, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do that transition without quite knowing what's

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<v Speaker 2>going to pop, what's going to resonate. It's the overall story.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have the story plus COVID all that other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So it has been difficult, and I think the knock

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<v Speaker 2>on effect has been that they don't really have a

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<v Speaker 2>place where where they're sure they're going. You know, Thanos

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<v Speaker 2>from moment one was going to be the big bad.

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<v Speaker 2>They were going to get there somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was also like six heroes at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's like a very few pople and you

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<v Speaker 3>link them together. Now you're in a world where there's

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<v Speaker 3>like hundreds.

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and we're only in phase five, although it

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, we are two movies into phase five, and

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.919
<v Speaker 2>it feels as if we've been treading water. And I

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>think the the Stingers are kind of a symptom of that.

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I agree your overall the overall issue is that we

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 2>don't quite have a place we're going in.

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, the Kang stuff is up in the air now too,

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 2>what is the overarching story? Who is the team that's

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna fight the bad guy? We like, all of this

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:39.120
<v Speaker 2>is still up in the air. And it's no surprise

0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>then that the Stingers would feel kind of disjoint fluous

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and yeah, I will be as an armchair person

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 3>who watches told us. I also do think that some

0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.640
<v Speaker 3>of that comes down to, like the amount of TV shows,

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 3>because that has kind of spread the storytelling, yeah, kind

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 3>of of the MCU even wide. And when some stuff

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 3>so like for example, when Adam Warlock was announced to

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 3>being got into Galaxy three, I was like, oh, well,

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.119
<v Speaker 3>that's obviously where you'll see Star Fox and Pip again.

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, those are characters that are all really deeply connected,

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 3>but those things aren't coming together as smoothly. And I

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 3>think that a lot of the storytelling at the moment

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 3>is quite scattered, which I think is normal for something

0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 3>that exploded in size and popularity and now we need

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 3>that streamlining event. I will say something I do think

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 3>me and Jason have been right about that. I do

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 3>think most of the stingers and storylines that feel un

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 3>grounded and kind of a drift have been leading to

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 3>is this like Battle World's version of the MCU. We

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 3>had some people in discord recently talking about it again,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 3>like where rather than it being multiple different universes that

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 3>are combined together, which could be quite a hard fix,

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 3>It's probably going to be these different secret societies and

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 3>different factions within the MCU that are going to have

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 3>to kind of fight together in the lead up to

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 3>as part of SECREWLS. So I think it will come together.

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 3>But at the moment, yeah, they don't. They don't know

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 3>where it's going, and it is not as streamlined and

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 3>simple as it was with that original you know, ten

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 3>year plan for the MCU.

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a favorite Phase four singer?

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I think my favorite Phase four stinger surprising nobody, I

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 3>really I do. I love the the Black Knight Blades stinger.

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I think is great black Night casting. I think they

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 3>did so I was not. I did not see that

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 3>one coming, so I know, Wow, that's what I'm saying.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 3>I love the Ebony Blade where it's kind of like

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 3>pulsing and it felt much more horrory than the rest

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 3>of the eternals. I love the hint of Blade and

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 3>this kind of idea that Blades going around like helping

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 3>people who were connected to the supernatural or warning them,

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 3>like kind of putting together a team. That to me

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 3>was the one where at the end I was most excited.

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Also it was phase five, but I did lose it

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 3>about the Victor Timely thing only because that is a

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 3>ridiculous character that I own all appearances because he's in

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.120
<v Speaker 3>like six things. So it always kind of exciting when

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 3>they throw something out there that's really deep cut. But

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 3>then I think a problem with this era of the

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 3>MCU is like doing that and then not necessarily delivering

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 3>on that promise. So we'll see what happens. What about you.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>The Ebony Blade is my technical favorite, but my emotional favorite.

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>And this surprised me is it's true. Is Eddie Brock,

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, no way home, getting transported back to

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>his universe but leaving a little dollop of symbiote like

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>on a napkin.

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>That one.

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I like that one.

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 3>That's really also, I will actually say, in a great context,

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:52.719
<v Speaker 3>that's a great answer because in the context of Jacob's

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 3>question arguably the hugest impact that has not been followed up.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 3>That was years ago. Now, guys, we literally could have

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 3>a venom or a symbia or a version of it

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 3>in the MCU now, and that's how long that's been stewing.

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 3>So I agree. I thought that one was really fun,

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 3>also really hilarious to have that big reveal that he's

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 3>gonna end up in the MCU, and then he's just

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 3>not in the fight, he has nothing to do with it,

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 3>and at the end he's just like chilling in a

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 3>bar and it's like, you're back, your back.

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Baby's so good, so funny.

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Josh asks, I will say, Josh asks, but also argues

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 3>very well for this point. So I'm curious whether either

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 3>of you believes that Rainie would have been a better

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 3>option to send to storms End instead of Luke. My

0:29:37.560 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>initial thoughts on why Raynise would have been a better option, Oh,

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 3>let the Blacks know that they have an offer out

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 3>at storms End already, so as stronger and misery than

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Luke to challenge the Greens offer. Her mother was a Barathian,

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 3>so stronger blood connection than Luke allegedly has. Rainice has

0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 3>more experience navigating the realm and interacting with high Lord's

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 3>no question, no question, Malise is an older and larger

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 3>dragon compared to Arak. So it seems to be a

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 3>bad use of Rainie to go to storms End and

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 3>then patrol the Narrow See rather than going directly to

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 3>the Narrow Sea. And it seems like they missed an

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to play a stronger hand at Storm's End and

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 3>keep Luke in the fold.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean, Josh, you nailed it.

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the issue.

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the issue is.

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>This is now twenty twenty hindsight, I understood while it

0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>looked it obviously it looks terrible in hindsight considering what happened.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 2>But I understand what Raniera was thinking in that here

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>is a less like if you send Rainie and Mallies

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that is aggressive, yeah, and you know maybe a fight

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 2>would start. And now the war's here, right, and at

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>this point in time, Raniera is thinking avoid the war,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>avoid the war? How can we avoid the war? And

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>so sending you know, sending Luke.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I think was.

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>It was smart in the sense of, you know, he

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be out and out attacked so young.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>His dragon is not a threat.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>And really that's the way it almost did play out,

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>if not for the fact that the other side just

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 2>flat out lost control of their dragon, Like they just

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 2>lost control of the dragons have a mind to their own.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>It did. It almost worked, and I think you're right,

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 2>You're obviously right. But at that point in time, you know,

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Raniero was thinking, how can we avoid war, maybe you know,

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>by sending by sending my son, I'm kind of one

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>signaling I'm looking for peace. And also look how important

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 2>this is to me. I'm sending my own blood to

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>carry this message. The issue to me was that they

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>just didn't prepare Luke Yough like he should have had

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>like hard orders. If you see another dragon, you turn around,

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 2>you come back, then we'll send a raven. We'll deal

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>with it that way. Two, it may come, it may

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>come to the point where there's like a marriage deal

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 2>being thrown around. Here is what you are allowed to bargain,

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, like here's here's here are the terms that

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe we could we could kind of like soft handshake

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 2>on rather than just Luke being like, oh, I don't know,

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I can't really do that, and I guess I gotta

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>go back and ask my mom, and like just headed

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>over there with like a set of positions already that

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 2>he can deal with. And then again, number one thing

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>is like have you seen another dragons? Just turn around,

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>fly back?

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just turn around, fly back.

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Like we lost, we lost the race to get there first,

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and if you lose the race to get their first,

0:32:58.560 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 2>turnaround and come back.

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I also think it

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 3>was like an emotional decision rather than a strategic one,

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Like it was coming from the heart and this idea

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>of that there was still a way to end this

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 3>war and men this rift, and Luke was a representation

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 3>of that. But I think you're right also it was

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 3>like playing four D chess, but without thinking about any

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 3>of the absolute wild card parts of that, like the dragons,

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 3>like teenage boys, like all the kind of horrible things

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 3>that ended up going wrong. But yeah, on a strategic

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 3>level and a hindsight level, I'm sure that Raniera probably

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>thinks every single day that she should have sent Renie.

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Next Camilla asks, if you had to choose only one

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 2>of each, what's the most interesting book or comic you read,

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>TV show, movie you watched last year?

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Rosie what do.

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 3>You whoh oh man, oh yeah, you know what I'm

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>gonna pick. So I watched this was just a movie

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 3>that I just really loved and I thought it was

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 3>so good. And it's an old movie, a really really

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 3>great old movie called Purple Noon, and it just really

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 3>impacted like everything else I was thinking about this year

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 3>that I've watched since. So it's Elaine Delon in his

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 3>first major film. He's really really great. Oh well, it's

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 3>directed by Renee Clement and it's basically like it's an

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>adaptation of the talented mister Ripley, but it's like a

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 3>French sixties noir movie and it's so good. And the

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 3>way that they adapt it and make it into a

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 3>movie about the process of how and why he is

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 3>so good at stealing people's identities really impacted a lot

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 3>of the way I was thinking about film and TV

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 3>as I watched it this year. Like Secret Invasion, we

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 3>were talking about how like you never really understand the

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 3>spycraft or the scrolls, or why they do the things

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 3>they do, and that's part of the reason why it

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 3>kind of didn't really work, whereas something like Mission Impossible,

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Dead Reckoning, so much of it is about the spycraft,

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>about the gadgets, about the plans, and that really works.

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 3>And I was thinking back to Purple Noonla also just

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 3>like an achingly cool movie where people are kind of

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 3>lounging around in the hot Mediterranean sun. It's incredibly homoeroic,

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 3>just like the American version. Also, very interesting kind of

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 3>theme throughout this year of things that I've watched has

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 3>been like realizing that a lot of things that are

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>adapting a source material are really adapting versions that have

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.720
<v Speaker 3>come before. So like I had this realization with Batman movies.

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Basically every Batman movie is really just kind of adapting

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Batman nineteen eighty nine. They're never really adapting the comics.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 3>A lot of them share the same beats, something like

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 3>The Batman, which I loved, and then rewatching The Dark Knight.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 3>The Batman actually has a lot of the same emotional

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>and narrative beats as The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 3>has a lot of the same emotional narrative beats as

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty nine. So like kind of realizing a lot

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 3>of times that when films are made, they're sort of

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>remaking that other film versions rather than the source material. Itself,

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 3>and that is very much the case with Purple Noon

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 3>and the American talented mister Ripley, which is really great

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 3>and enjoyable, but that movie, so much of it is

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 3>actually HARKing back to this really gorgeous, funny, weird French film.

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 3>And the coolest thing about it is like the movie

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of opens as like a broad ribold comedy before

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 3>it takes this kind of darker turn, and I feel

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 3>like that's something that a lot of American movies can't

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 3>really do. Like the talent of mister Ripley is just

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 3>this really straight down the line, like scary crime thriller

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 3>with like these kind of undertones of homo eroticism, which

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 3>is really great. But Purple Noon is like really expensive

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 3>at times, it's like a vacation movie. At times, it's

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 3>a romance, at times, it's a thriller. At times it

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 3>edges on the horror and it's but it's kind of

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 3>funny throughout. So that's definitely interesting and kind of impactful

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 3>on the way. I was looking at other things that

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 3>would be mine for the Lost, for the Lost, Yeah,

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 3>what about you.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pick Gosh for a movie, I'm gonna pick

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.280
<v Speaker 2>an old movie too, So you know Oppenheimer of courses

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 2>in theaters. You might have seen Oppenheimer star Cillian Murphy

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 2>uh inside the Criterion closet late talking about the movie Lahine,

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 2>which he shared his kids recently. Wow, and I owned

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the I own the Blu ray. I remember seeing it

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 2>at a some at the Indie theater in the late

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>nineties when I worked at the When I worked at

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>movie theaters, we had like a a deal with all

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 2>the movie theaters in town where you could get a

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>discount to go to like the Art Movie Theater and

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 2>see various movies. And I saw like Run a Little

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Run there, I saw Lahyne there. I saw a lot

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 2>of stuff there. And I remember so Lahyne by Matthew Kassovitz,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 2>who's also an actor. You might have seen him in

0:37:56.120 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Munich as the bomb maker nerdy guy and that kind

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 2>of like Spy Group. He directed a movie Calledahan came

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 2>out in nineteen ninety five, and it honestly feels like

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>it could have come out yesterday.

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's unbelievable.

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 2>All the issues that it deals with France is dealing

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 2>with still to this day. There's same exact issues, the

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 2>same exact complaints, and it just feels like an incredibly visceral,

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 2>vital movie. It opens with this wonderful play on you know,

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 2>the the Travis Bickle taxi driver You're talking to me

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>scene that has this wonderful I don't want to spoil it,

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 2>but like one of the great like in camera tricks

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:38.720
<v Speaker 2>where the guy's looking in the mirror.

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and.

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't I don't want to spoil it

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 2>because it's just an amazing shot. You know, James Cameron

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 2>has also stole that for The Terminator, Like it's just

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 2>like one of these wonderful like in camera tricks, and

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it's all in black and white, and it's I would

0:38:53.520 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>describe it as like it's just a it's an unbelievable

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>movies was the nineties in that it has that kind

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 2>of you know, lost aimless youth, quick cut kind of

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 2>energetic style. But it's just fucking great. And again it

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 2>feels it really feels like it could have come out yesterday.

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 3>Well literally, I think the riots that were happening recent

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 3>most recently in France, they were about the death of

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 3>a young black man at the hands.

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Of the place exactly.

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 3>The movie is about the same thing, and also Vincent

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Cassel is in it, like probably his breakout roll, like

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 3>such an unreal movie. This is one of my most

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 3>This is one of my most rewatched movies, Like when

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of like when I was like an

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 3>angry teen and I was living with like a bunch

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 3>of friends and stuff like, this was the movie that

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 3>we felt like it kind of even in like that

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.919
<v Speaker 3>would have been in the early two thousands, twenty years

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 3>after the movie, ten years after the movie came out,

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 3>that felt like it still captured the way we felt

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 3>about things and that kind of anger and that like

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 3>that bubbling like fury of like living in a really

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 3>unfair system. And yeah, like you said, it's it's I'm

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 3>not surprised that he bore out because it feels so

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 3>relevant now just as it could be, like just as

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 3>it was then. So another one of those things where

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 3>you're like this is so great, but like nothing's changed.

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nothing's changed. We have not moved nothing. We've not

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.839
<v Speaker 2>moved forward even an inch. Everything feels exactly the same.

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 2>And then for books, I would say Tomorrow and Tomorrow

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and Tomorrow by Gabrielle seven book is Sneaks up on You.

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spoil it, but it's kind of

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>through the lens of of different styles of video game narratives,

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 2>and there's one about two thirds through the book where

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 2>everything comes together, the plot, the characters, the story that

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 2>particular little conceit of this like video game lens and

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 2>it just hits so hard, wonderful, wonderful, very surprising and

0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 2>good book. And then I've talked about it. I think

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about it previously. But probably the most like

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 2>eye opening, like nonfiction book that I read this year

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:24.760
<v Speaker 2>is Chris Miller's Chip War, The Fight for the World's

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 2>most Critical Technology just about how now I'm going to

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 2>sound like fucking Kramer on CNBC, but like, but how

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 2>micro chips are basically oil. That's yeah, the twenty first

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>century oil really really interesting and it puts a lot

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>of the things that are kind of like happening in

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 2>the news in context.

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Good books. Yeah, one of the for me, the book

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 3>would probably be So there's this author called TJ. Cloone

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 3>who wrote this book called The House in the Cerulean Sea,

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 3>and it's basically it's one of my all time favorite

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.560
<v Speaker 3>books now and that book was like a revelation when

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 3>I was reading it, kind of like tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow.

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know what's going to happen, but the

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.320
<v Speaker 3>way that you get there and the outcome is very different.

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 3>It's essentially like what if you crossed Hitchhiker's Guide to

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 3>the Galaxy with the X Men. So it's like it's

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 3>about a guy who works in a kind of dystopian

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 3>future where kids who have powers are put into orphanages,

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of this Douglas Adams esque like very

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 3>so it's kind of surreal but in your own word,

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 3>very bureaucratic, very boring life. And his job is to

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.759
<v Speaker 3>investigate the orphanages and check whether they're taking care of

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:46.720
<v Speaker 3>the kids. But he's more of like a box ticker

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.840
<v Speaker 3>than anything else. And he gets sent to an orphanage

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 3>run by a man who's very like controversial and scene as,

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 3>very outside of the system. And the orphanage is in

0:42:55.800 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 3>like a small seaside town and all the kids there

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 3>are like unbelievably kind of dangerously powerful, and it's this beautiful,

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 3>like coming of age story, but coming of age in

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 3>like your fifties, and it's a romance and it's queer

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 3>and the characterization of like the kids and the powers

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 3>are so unbelievable. It's such a wonderful book. And then

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 3>I've read his other books that he's really since are

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 3>just equally in that zone of like supernatural, cozy, queer,

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 3>but just never really read anything else like it, Like

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 3>it's so good, And every time I recommend it to someone,

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 3>they'll just text me the whole time they're reading it

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 3>going like what the fuck? Like this is so good.

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 3>So that would definitely be my book. And then my

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 3>comic one, which I've talked about a lot on the pod,

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 3>but I do think it kind of changed the game,

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 3>and I've been happy to see it is. Jamilla Rouser

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 3>and Robin Smith wrote made a book called wash Day Diaries,

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 3>which is like a slice of life book about black

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 3>friends in Brooklyn and their haircare regimes and kind of

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 3>their life through the lens of that and their friendships

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:02.840
<v Speaker 3>and their romance. I feel like it was rightfully very acclaimed.

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 3>It's beautiful, it's so sweet, But also I feel like

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 3>it kind of opened the doors now to be having

0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 3>more slice of life comics, having more romance comics, having

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 3>more comics that are more in the vein of what

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:19.000
<v Speaker 3>manga has been doing for a long time, what indie

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 3>comics have been doing, but putting it into that publishing market.

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.359
<v Speaker 3>So if you have still haven't read it, just get

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 3>a copy because it's like really lovely.

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:27.320
<v Speaker 1>X Ray Vision will be back.

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 2>And we're back.

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.759
<v Speaker 3>Danielle asks what comics, arc, universe or characters would be

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 3>best served by an animated adaptation.

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is kind of a cheap, but I feel

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>like almost all of that, I'd like anyone you could think, No,

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I feel like that if if you do,

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like the target is a lot bigger with animated,

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>and if you nail it, it's going to be wonderful.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>And you can do so many things that you know,

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 2>reported directly from whatever your source material is and can

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>be essentially like they are in the source material without

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 2>having to do sets or CG or any kind of

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 2>big you know, explosive stunts or whatever. And I think

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 2>most of the honestly, most of them would probably be

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>better served. And the harder version is the live action. No,

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I think sense the harder to do.

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, Yeah, I think you're totally right. I think there's

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 3>a reason why animated adaptations are so beloved and it's

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 3>because they can adapt something so singularly but also so

0:45:55.160 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 3>expansively because it's much simpler. I won't say because the

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:02.720
<v Speaker 3>amount of work that goes into these things is immense,

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 3>but you can your imagination can be a lot bigger

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 3>when you're doing an animation. I think about that's why

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 3>people love like Batman, the animated series, That's why they

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 3>love X Men ninety two. That's I was just thinking

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 3>about Spawn. If you've never watched the HBO Spawn series,

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 3>it's unbelievable. It's like one of the few Western R

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 3>rated animated shows. It's really scary. It sums up everything

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 3>that the comics did well. And I love the much

0:46:26.840 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 3>maligned Spawn movie because it's totally fun. But if you

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 3>put those two next to each other, you can see

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 3>the difference in what you're able to achieve in animation

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 3>and what you're able to achieve in the space of

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 3>like a live action movie, especially in the nineties, when

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 3>you're like, don't have necessarily the effects or the budget

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 3>to do what you want to do. If I was

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 3>going to pick, like, you know what, I just want

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 3>to see more X Men stuff, and I know that

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 3>we're getting X Men ninety seven. But in my head,

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I just that's where I immediately go is, like I

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 3>want to see an X Men animated movie that gets

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:02.839
<v Speaker 3>a cinema release. I want to see like them adapting

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 3>really incredible. You know, there was a Star Wars comic

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 3>called Droids and that was tied to like a cartoon

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 3>and everything. But like I would love to see like

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 3>a Pixar Droids movie, Like I want to see right,

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 3>you can imagine it immediately. Like I would love to

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:22.240
<v Speaker 3>see an Ardman kind of adaptation of something like Super

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Pets or the you know, the Pet Avengers. Like I

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 3>think there's so many spaces and I'm hoping with you know,

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Mario being a billion the first billion dollar movie of

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 3>the year. I'm sure Turtles is gonna do super well.

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I would love to see studios investing, oh obviously Spider Verse,

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 3>Like I want to see studios investing more into that

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 3>space because I do think it should be we should

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 3>be getting the same amount of live action and animation

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 3>adaptations of these things, especially in comics where illustration and

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:54.959
<v Speaker 3>animation are so intertwined.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Phil asks love the part. I mean really relatively

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.760
<v Speaker 2>new comic book reader. I'm looking for recommendations for omnibus reads,

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.319
<v Speaker 2>a format I enjoy because they can be so thoughtfully constructed.

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 2>My favorite so far is Grant Morrison's Batman Volume two,

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Can't Go Wrong. Yeah, I loved how it jumped between

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Grayson and Damien's story and Bruce Wayne's incredible jury through time.

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any recommendations for a well constructed omnibus story, Rosie.

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean, this is like such one of the

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.439
<v Speaker 3>best things about being a comics reader right now, when

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 3>comics are so popular, when they're inspiring the biggest movies

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:33.240
<v Speaker 3>on as is, we are getting so many good collect editions.

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 3>I have two that I always go to that I

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:39.240
<v Speaker 3>think are really easy. I obviously Grant Marson's Batman Iconic,

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 3>So my two would be, if you liked that, get

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 3>a new x Men collection. Morrison and Frank Quietly's New

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:50.280
<v Speaker 3>x Men. Such good, weird stuff, and it will grip

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 3>you from the opening double page spread, which is just

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 3>absolutely bonkers. It feels almost like an introduction to the

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:58.759
<v Speaker 3>X Men, So I think you can read it and

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 3>never really needed to know a lot about the x Men,

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 3>though it will color your experience of the x Men

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 3>going forward. For me, it's the best, most interesting version

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 3>of Cyclops, but it's totally different than any other version.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 3>So I think the Morrison quietly and many many other

0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 3>artists X Men run is a really really great read

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 3>that is just such a joy. Also, they now have

0:49:21.400 --> 0:49:26.480
<v Speaker 3>a very affordable, very enjoyable Young Avengers collection, the McKelvey

0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 3>and Gillan and Matt Wilson Young Avengers, And I think

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 3>that is like one of the most readable singular stories

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 3>that you can really feel like you've just read a

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.200
<v Speaker 3>graphic novel, you've read an omnibus where the whole thing

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 3>fits together and you get such a satisfying read. So

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 3>those are my two that if I'm in the comic

0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 3>shop and I hear people saying like I don't really

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 3>know what I should read, I always pull those two

0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 3>out if they're around and kind of goho you are.

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 3>This one's good.

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I will add on to that. I'll say that Uncanny

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 2>X Men Omnibus Volume one, which is basically the giant

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 2>size X Men, the Chris Claremont era, isn't I mean

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 2>you go right directly to the to the vein with

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 2>that one, Like it's just fucking great. It's great from

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:15.320
<v Speaker 2>beginning to end. You don't get all the way through

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the Phoenix saga with that one, but it will certainly

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 2>we wet your appetite and it's just like mind blowing storytelling.

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 2>David es Squier was with us last week talking about it.

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:29.879
<v Speaker 2>I would say, for something, you know one that I

0:50:29.960 --> 0:50:34.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's underrated, but to me, Annihilation and

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Annihilation Conquest, there's an omnibus for each event are two

0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 2>of like the best crossover events that Marvel's done in

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:47.160
<v Speaker 2>like the last twenty years. Huge steaks, entire galaxies getting destroyed,

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:52.720
<v Speaker 2>like war throughout the Galaxy, just really really fun formation

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 2>of the of the modern Guardians of the Galaxy team

0:50:55.640 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 2>happens there and it's just a swashbuckling space adventure par excellence.

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 2>And then you know what, the Invincible Omnibus.

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, it.

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Omnibus is fucking great.

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:12.800
<v Speaker 3>It's like massive, it's.

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:18.840
<v Speaker 2>A ton It's massive and really good. Now, be warned

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:24.879
<v Speaker 2>if you are new to Invincible and you're really into

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the show, the story that's in the show is basically

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 2>done by like one fifth through the Eyes.

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 3>You will spoil yourself.

0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:37.919
<v Speaker 2>You will spoil yourself for the future if you pick

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 2>it up. But it's fantastic. It's fantastic.

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna so the last two. I'll say one is

0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent, like, go to your comic shop by

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 3>it because it's one of the best collections. They just

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 3>reprinted it. And I will also say the Hawkeye, the

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Matt fraction David a half. That's it's a beautiful looking trade.

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna be really happy with that when you read it.

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 3>They did a new version of it. Reach it's great.

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I will say, as an out there one, just because

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 3>it is one of the greatest collected omnibus formats of

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 3>all time. Try Akira. Look, it's totally out in it.

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.759
<v Speaker 3>You're noon the comics. I get it. It's like a

0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:17.880
<v Speaker 3>really intense thing. But those those phone book style Akira

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:22.919
<v Speaker 3>omnibuses are so enjoyable to read. Yeah, there you are,

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:25.839
<v Speaker 3>Jason's got you can get them. They are like they

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 3>were a staple of our childhood. They're so beautiful, that

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 3>art is unbelievable. They're black and white. You can buy

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 3>the hardcover ones Dark Horse Died, or you can walk

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:37.080
<v Speaker 3>into any comic shop and probably bookshop and just pick

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 3>up the first one. It's worth a try. It's really dense,

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 3>it's really crazy, but the art is beautiful and it

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 3>was It really feels like it was just made to

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 3>be read in these formats. So there's a few that

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 3>you can pick up. Let us know what you think

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 3>about them. So Sergio asks, and I think it's a

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:52.920
<v Speaker 3>great question, because I think a lot of people are

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:55.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of thinking along these lines. For the past two years,

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 3>I've been writing a TV show in my free time,

0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 3>and even though the chances of it ever seeing the

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 3>light of dare slim to none, I never stopped doing

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 3>it because something I truly enjoy. Now I've checked the

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 3>guidelines on the WGA website and I think I'm in

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 3>the clear since I'm not part of the guild or

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 3>currently trying to pitch to any studios, which he mentions

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:16.360
<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't even know where to start. But I wanted

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 3>to know if it will be frowned upon if in

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 3>the future people pitch stuff that they wrote on their

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 3>own spare time during the strike. He says, he just

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 3>wants to be sure, and he thought we were the

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 3>best people to ask.

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:33.720
<v Speaker 2>So what do you think I would say? Uh, well,

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 2>how I guess the question would be like, how are

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.240
<v Speaker 2>you pitching, you submitting, or you like sending in a script.

0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I would just wait until the action is over, just

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to be safe. Now Animated is a different union that

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 2>isn't necessarily covered by WGA guidelines, but I would say

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:52.399
<v Speaker 2>just to be safe.

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:54.759
<v Speaker 3>Just wait, just wait, because then you're in Souldari. Also,

0:53:54.800 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 3>I think Sergio has a fear here that like, because

0:53:57.160 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 3>he wrote it during the strike, would that mean it

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 3>was ineligible or some way scabbing? But no, that's like

0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 3>you're a personal project that you're writing. We all have

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.719
<v Speaker 3>comic books or pilots that we work on in our

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 3>own spare time. This is about not giving the studios

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 3>who are struck content in the place of the stuff

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.360
<v Speaker 3>that is being held from them. So as long as

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 3>you're not pitching or anything until the action is over.

0:54:22.239 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 3>If you're writing something your TV show, you finished writing

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:27.399
<v Speaker 3>it during the strike. If you wait until the action

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 3>is over and pitch it, it doesn't matter when you

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:30.640
<v Speaker 3>wrote it.

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:33.879
<v Speaker 2>I would also say, yes, that's right. I would also

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 2>say for other you know, listen, I'm a very new

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 2>TV writer as well, Like I hesitate to give advice,

0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 2>but I would say you know, one of the things

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:53.439
<v Speaker 2>that I've found most useful is one thing about your script.

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:56.760
<v Speaker 2>First as a way to show people like I understand character,

0:54:56.840 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I understand story, and secondarily and only like a very

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 2>very lagging second of being like, this is a thing

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I can sell, because really the best way in is

0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 2>to show folks you can write. Start writing other shows,

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:23.120
<v Speaker 2>other people's projects, get a job writing, and then when

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to arise is try and pitch the dream project.

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 2>And then I would say, like as a third thing,

0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 2>it's really is, of course, really hard to break in.

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:39.720
<v Speaker 2>If there's a TV like wherever the Portuguese television market,

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:43.359
<v Speaker 2>wherever that's located, wherever the center of the industry is

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:50.560
<v Speaker 2>like in your country, try and go there and meet people.

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things in this era, the

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:57.040
<v Speaker 2>era of the internet, that can you feel like you're

0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 2>connecting with people because you meet them online and they

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 2>reach or stuff and maybe they put you know, will

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 2>point to something you rote, and you you're creating this

0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 2>network of people. But like, nothing really beats meeting someone

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:14.360
<v Speaker 2>in person, showing that you exist in the in the

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 2>meat space, like you're a real person in the world.

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:21.880
<v Speaker 2>There's just it's just a difference, and some a certain

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:26.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of alchemy happens from that because you just it.

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to really feel like a person exists unless

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:31.879
<v Speaker 2>you meet them in person. And once you meet them

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:36.839
<v Speaker 2>in person, a huge part of breaking into any kind

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:42.720
<v Speaker 2>of creative community is are you like do people perceive

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 2>you as like a good hang?

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Are you a person?

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Talent often is like again a secondary priority. It's like,

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:53.080
<v Speaker 2>can I spend eight hours a day in a room

0:56:53.120 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 2>with this person? You cannot want to kill him.

0:56:57.920 --> 0:56:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Vibes?

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And and that can only be transmitted in person.

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:07.840
<v Speaker 2>So if you can spend time wherever the center of

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:10.960
<v Speaker 2>the Portuguese television industry is, for like a week or

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks, if you can figure out a

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:14.560
<v Speaker 2>way to do that, try and do that, Try and

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:15.760
<v Speaker 2>do that, and try and meet people.

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I say that's absolutely true also because those opportunities are

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:21.720
<v Speaker 3>afforded to people who are in those spaces a lot

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 3>of times. And like I never thought I would be

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 3>a full time writer, let alone a podcast host, let alone.

0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Just before the strikes began, in a few months before,

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 3>I'd been approached because I lived in LA because I

0:57:36.520 --> 0:57:40.200
<v Speaker 3>was known by other people about pitching for an animated show.

0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 3>So I got to script my own. I got to

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 3>submit my script to the WGA to have it, you know,

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of have them know that it existed. And obviously

0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:50.600
<v Speaker 3>then the strikes happened, so I didn't know what happened

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 3>with it. But that wouldn't have been something I could

0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 3>do if I wasn't in La. Yeah, you know the

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 3>fact that you're here and you have those opportunities being

0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 3>close and in proximity and sort of meeting people and

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 3>being like, hey, this is what I'm into, this is

0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 3>what I do. That's a really good way. So I

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 3>love that because I've been thinking about it a lot recently.

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 2>It's it's really really important, and I understand that it's

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 2>also like not easy to listen. I dropped five figures

0:58:13.480 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 2>to move to Laws with my own money and like, yeah,

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:20.520
<v Speaker 2>crashed my savings.

0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 1>But it was the right thing to do because.

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 2>You just need to People need to see your face

0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 2>and catch your vibe and understand what you're like, know

0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that you're around, and then the thing that will happen is,

0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 2>oh I know that guy assert you.

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I know him. He gave me one of

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>his things. I wonder if he's any good. He's like

0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 1>a good hang and stuff.

0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Will strive to come from that. It won't feel like

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:49.320
<v Speaker 2>anything's happening for a while, but that's part of putting

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 2>in the work. You're doing the important part the writing

0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 2>to get it out there. You've got to get yourself

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 2>out there. So try and do that if you can.

0:58:59.120 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Up next not out Cool.

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 3>In today's nerd out, where you tell us what you

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 3>love them why, a theory you're excited to share, or

0:59:15.040 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 3>a quick question we can answer. Corey has another comic

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 3>book question very appropriate for today. Hey, Jeson and Rosie,

0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 3>you have all really inspired me to start reading comics

0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:26.520
<v Speaker 3>and graphic novels. I just read Vifa Fender and I

0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 3>loved it. I also really enjoy companion style pods that

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 3>discuss the media I'm consuming. Do you have any recommendations

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 3>or chit tips for finding people talking about classic comic

0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:37.720
<v Speaker 3>book runs?

0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Rosie, do you know of anything?

0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 3>So I would say, you know, Jay and Miles explain

0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 3>the x Men if you've been reading any x Men.

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:51.320
<v Speaker 3>That's a real classic one that people love most. I

0:59:51.360 --> 0:59:55.080
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of x cerebrodcast that's another space where

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.360
<v Speaker 3>you're going to hear people one of the ones that

0:59:57.440 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 3>I love. Now it will all be all Marvel, but

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:01.640
<v Speaker 3>it was recently announced it's coming to an end. Me

1:00:01.640 --> 1:00:03.800
<v Speaker 3>and Jason have actually both been guests on it. But

1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Marvel's pull List is really great because it's incredibly eclectic.

1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:11.919
<v Speaker 3>Each episode is somebody different talking about a different Marvel run.

1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 3>So if you're reading something and you go on poll List,

1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:17.960
<v Speaker 3>you can just search the episodes and see if somebody's

1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:20.439
<v Speaker 3>spoken about it. So I think that's a really good space.

1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Even though you'll only get an episode about each one,

1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:25.760
<v Speaker 3>those podcasts are out there and there's a lot of

1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:27.080
<v Speaker 3>fun stuff. Jason, how about you.

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I Serebercast as well. I listened to quite regularly. It's less,

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:36.000
<v Speaker 2>it's more current, and there's more reference.

1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:36.280
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:39.200
<v Speaker 2>There's like a lot of references through the very particular

1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:44.959
<v Speaker 2>voice of that podcast about storylines and arcs from the past,

1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:47.120
<v Speaker 2>but it's mostly about like what is what is currently

1:00:47.160 --> 1:00:49.840
<v Speaker 2>happening again? And they'll have guests on talking about like

1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:55.920
<v Speaker 2>their favorite character, you know what, like fat Man and

1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Beyond Believe It or Not, like has had some the

1:00:58.360 --> 1:01:01.439
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Smith Pott has had some good moment, it's Jane

1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Miles explaining the X Men. Yes, y, Yeah, definitely one

1:01:04.320 --> 1:01:07.400
<v Speaker 2>of the leaders in terms of what you're asking for.

1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I think is the most on the nose version of

1:01:11.680 --> 1:01:14.600
<v Speaker 2>the thing that you're asking for. And then like if

1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you want to uh, the pullist is great as a

1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:23.320
<v Speaker 2>way to kind of get into Marvel centric now just

1:01:23.480 --> 1:01:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like classic runs. Yeah, people's your your favorite, person's favorite.

1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:32.280
<v Speaker 2>The only thing is it's it is obviously quite blinkered

1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:34.560
<v Speaker 2>because it's just gonna be Marvel stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks Corey. If you have theories, passions or quick

1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 3>questions you want to share, hit us up at x

1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:43.480
<v Speaker 3>ray at quicker dot com. Instructions are in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for us. Rosie and he plugs keep.

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<v Speaker 3>Supporting the strikes. Has been really cool to see everyone

1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:53.320
<v Speaker 3>coming together and doing it. It's very hot out there,

1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:55.560
<v Speaker 3>so see if there's any way you can support people

1:01:55.600 --> 1:02:00.240
<v Speaker 3>on the picket lines. For me personally, I have a

1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:02.720
<v Speaker 3>book that I contributed to that's coming out called Screen

1:02:02.760 --> 1:02:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Traveler's Guide. It's a super cool like place where you

1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:09.560
<v Speaker 3>can find all the information about where your favorite movies

1:02:09.560 --> 1:02:12.000
<v Speaker 3>were filmed, and that's really cool. The production design on

1:02:12.040 --> 1:02:14.560
<v Speaker 3>the book is beautiful. That's coming out from DK, which

1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:16.200
<v Speaker 3>is somewhere I always wanted to write. So I'm stoked

1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:17.600
<v Speaker 3>about that and you can pre order that now.

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<v Speaker 2>Catch the next episode Wednesday, August ninth for tmn T

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<v Speaker 2>Here's one from tinker Bell three, my go to for

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<v Speaker 2>so so much. You're both amazing and I love all

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<v Speaker 2>your coverage of my top faves. The Batman commentary is perfection.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for your Lord of the Ring podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love the new.

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<v Speaker 1>Things you introduced me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, tinker.

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<v Speaker 1>Bell, thank you so much. Xtra Vision is a Crooked

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<v Speaker 2>The show is produced by Chris Lord and Solrubin and

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<v Speaker 2>executive produced by me Jason Concepcion. Our editing at sound

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<v Speaker 2>design is by Fiscillisftopoulos. Video production by Delon Villanueva and

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to Brian Basquez for our theme music.

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