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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jason Caonceepsion and I'm Rosey Night and

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Speaker 2: welcome to x ray Vision, the Crooked media podcast where

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Speaker 2: we dive into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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Speaker 3: In this episode, in the air look, it's a big

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Speaker 3: mail bag. Baby, canna answer real questions and a no

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Speaker 3: doubt guess what? It's another question and we're gonna answer.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into our bag.

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Speaker 2: We're stepping out of the air lock and into the

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Speaker 2: mail bag to answer your questions. Swatty asks what are

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Speaker 2: you reading and loving? Always love hearing your recommendations for

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Speaker 2: books and graphic novels.

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Speaker 1: Rosie, what do you read?

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Speaker 3: I have been reading many great things. I recently wrote

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Speaker 3: an entry for Polygon's Best Comics of the Year so far.

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Speaker 3: Oh and it was for a self published comic by

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Speaker 3: a graphic novelist and cartoonist who I love called Olivia Stevens.

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Speaker 3: And she's most well known. She did a really cute

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Speaker 3: younger reader's book called Artie and the Moonwarf. But she

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Speaker 3: has published on gum Road and it on yeah, basically

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Speaker 3: online you can find it and it's She's published a

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Speaker 3: book that is called Darlin and her other names and

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Speaker 3: it's like a black and white adult horror western romance

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Speaker 3: werewolf comic, and it is just like the coolest, most atmospheric, beautiful,

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Speaker 3: Like it's eighty eight pages long, but you will read

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Speaker 3: that that really blew me away. I thought that was

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Speaker 3: really great. I'm also reading a really scary novel cool

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Speaker 3: but a God in It's Yeah, which I love. I

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Speaker 3: Shed by JF. Debou and it is like really scary.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like a cosmic horror meets true detective

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Speaker 3: about like a small town that's next to a forest

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Speaker 3: where there's been all these serial killings, but a young

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Speaker 3: girl kind of starts to realize that it's not necessarily

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Speaker 3: what it looks like, and there's might be like this

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Speaker 3: kind of elder god esque monster in their mist. And

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Speaker 3: that's really I've really been enjoying that. I love a

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Speaker 3: good I love a good cosmic horror story, especially if

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Speaker 3: is that good small town nowari horror. So those two

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Speaker 2: Did you have any scary woods.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 1: Growing up, I.

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Speaker 3: Lived very much in the city, but there was a

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Speaker 3: lost in the woods being quite a scary experience. What

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Speaker 3: about you, did you have a scary wood near you?

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Speaker 2: I also lived a very urban and suburban on the

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Speaker 2: sort of nature areas that were quasi magical, or at

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Speaker 2: least places where in the in the Steven Spielberg sense

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kidshit.

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Speaker 2: One was so there was a there was a like

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Speaker 2: as long as anybody can remember, called the cornfields.

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Speaker 1: There was like crash cars there.

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Speaker 2: There was like some kids over the course of like

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Speaker 3: Yeah yea, yeah, just go through the field.

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Speaker 2: Go to the cornfields and watch someone get their head

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Speaker 3: I thought it was awesome and very magical realism, just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we used to do that, but it was

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Speaker 3: But we would go there at night and it would

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Speaker 2: And then I grew up across the street from a sump.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what a sump is? I do not

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Speaker 2: know what a sump is a sump. First of all,

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Speaker 2: the word sump was a word that I just thought.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that it's maybe a made up word,

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Speaker 2: or it's certainly maybe maybe a regional word. Sump is

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Speaker 1: They have these all around Long Island.

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Speaker 2: I guess to you know, collect water that I guess

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Speaker 1: Somehow to a drinking water spot.

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Speaker 2: I lived right across the street from this, and we

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Speaker 2: There's a big, big, like rain collection tunnel that you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very Stephen King, Well, yeah, it's like your child

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Speaker 3: like a natury space that the book I got in

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Speaker 3: opening space is very much in that like stand by

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Speaker 2: Okay, so gosh, what am I? I've been rewatching Deadwood?

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Speaker 2: a subscription to newspaper dot com, which is an archive

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Speaker 2: of newspapers from all around the world that goes back

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Times April seventh, eighteen ninety five, and it

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Speaker 2: has a very very long and well written feature about

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Speaker 2: history of this stagecoach which was now coming to an

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Speaker 2: bank or whatever. And this thing ran for fifteen years

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Speaker 1: What have you.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting article. So I did that, and let's see

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Speaker 2: what am I reading.

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Speaker 1: I am reading.

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Speaker 2: I'm still reading The Revolutionary Spring and History of the

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Speaker 2: Revolutions of eighteen forty eight, like Justopher Clark, very good,

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Speaker 2: super super interesting, and kind of it kind of steals

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Speaker 2: the hope from you, Rosie, because it's like all the

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Speaker 2: shit that we're concerned about right now. Are these exact

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Speaker 2: same issues minus like climate change that people were concerned

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Speaker 2: And it's that part of it makes you a fuck

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Speaker 2: I guess we're fucked, Like we're just trapped in this

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Speaker 2: and it's it's illuminated. It's been illuminating to see like

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Speaker 1: What did conservatism mean?

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Speaker 2: And then I've been reading this Elmore Leonard novel Freakydky,

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Speaker 2: just from oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We're about a

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Speaker 2: the bomb. It's you know, if you like Elma Leonard,

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Speaker 2: and you should, it's just it's a wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah. Oh you know what you actually inspired me

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Speaker 3: was there's a book that I've read it a while back,

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Speaker 3: it about on here, and it's very relevant right now

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Speaker 3: with the strikes and everything. There's a really great book

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Speaker 3: written by Kim Kelly, who's a brilliant music journalist and

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Speaker 3: labor journalist, called Fight Like Hell, and it's like an

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Speaker 3: untold history of American labor organization and it's just so

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Speaker 3: good and it gives you so much insight into again,

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Speaker 3: how a lot of the stuff that we're fighting for

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Speaker 3: would do really well to read it because it's great,

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Speaker 3: and it kind of reminds you that what we're fighting

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Speaker 3: for is what everyone's fighting for, just at like different levels,

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Speaker 3: and people have actually achieved incredible stuff through organizing via labor.

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Speaker 2: I should add quick strike update. The MPTP has reached

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Speaker 2: out to the WGA and said let's talk this Friday.

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Speaker 2: So the ninety day we'll be listening to this. The

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Speaker 2: negotiations theoretically will have restarted in the now near one

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Speaker 2: hundred day strike of the WGA against the AMPTP.

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Speaker 3: Will be very interesting to see what happens there. And now,

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Speaker 3: on a completely different page, Tyrannosaurus Greg asks, if you

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Speaker 3: only one from each. Jason, this is a huge question.

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Speaker 3: What would you What would you do?

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Speaker 3: like they're leading somewhere.

436
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

437
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, the issue is that the

438
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: tail has to go where the dog goes, and the

439
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: dog right now doesn't quite know where it's going exactly.

440
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's really fact.

441
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: That's really the kind of issue is. You know, there

442
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: were several There are a lot of structural things happening

443
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: as you transition to phase four. Many of the legacy

444
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: stars are moving on, don't want to do it anymore.

445
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: You have to build up new stars to carry the

446
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: h to carry the series forward, the universe forward, and

447
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: you have to do that transition without quite knowing what's

448
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: going to pop, what's going to resonate. It's the overall story.

449
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 2: We don't have the story plus COVID all that other stuff.

450
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: So it has been difficult, and I think the knock

451
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: on effect has been that they don't really have a

452
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: place where where they're sure they're going. You know, Thanos

453
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: from moment one was going to be the big bad.

454
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: They were going to get there somehow.

455
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: And that was also like six heroes at the beginning.

456
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: You know, that's like a very few pople and you

457
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: link them together. Now you're in a world where there's

458
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: like hundreds.

459
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and we're only in phase five, although it

460
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, we are two movies into phase five, and

461
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: it feels as if we've been treading water. And I

462
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: think the the Stingers are kind of a symptom of that.

463
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: I agree your overall the overall issue is that we

464
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: don't quite have a place we're going in.

465
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: We don't know.

466
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, the Kang stuff is up in the air now too,

467
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: what is the overarching story? Who is the team that's

468
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: gonna fight the bad guy? We like, all of this

469
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: is still up in the air. And it's no surprise

470
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: then that the Stingers would feel kind of disjoint fluous

471
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 2: to that.

472
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I will be as an armchair person

473
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: who watches told us. I also do think that some

474
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 3: of that comes down to, like the amount of TV shows,

475
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 3: because that has kind of spread the storytelling, yeah, kind

476
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: of of the MCU even wide. And when some stuff

477
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: so like for example, when Adam Warlock was announced to

478
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: being got into Galaxy three, I was like, oh, well,

479
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: that's obviously where you'll see Star Fox and Pip again.

480
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 3: You know, those are characters that are all really deeply connected,

481
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 3: but those things aren't coming together as smoothly. And I

482
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 3: think that a lot of the storytelling at the moment

483
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: is quite scattered, which I think is normal for something

484
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: that exploded in size and popularity and now we need

485
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 3: that streamlining event. I will say something I do think

486
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: me and Jason have been right about that. I do

487
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: think most of the stingers and storylines that feel un

488
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: grounded and kind of a drift have been leading to

489
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 3: is this like Battle World's version of the MCU. We

490
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: had some people in discord recently talking about it again,

491
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: like where rather than it being multiple different universes that

492
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: are combined together, which could be quite a hard fix,

493
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 3: It's probably going to be these different secret societies and

494
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: different factions within the MCU that are going to have

495
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: to kind of fight together in the lead up to

496
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: as part of SECREWLS. So I think it will come together.

497
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: But at the moment, yeah, they don't. They don't know

498
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: where it's going, and it is not as streamlined and

499
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: simple as it was with that original you know, ten

500
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: year plan for the MCU.

501
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite Phase four singer?

502
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: I think my favorite Phase four stinger surprising nobody, I

503
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: really I do. I love the the Black Knight Blades stinger.

504
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: I think is great black Night casting. I think they

505
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: did so I was not. I did not see that

506
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: one coming, so I know, Wow, that's what I'm saying.

507
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: I love the Ebony Blade where it's kind of like

508
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: pulsing and it felt much more horrory than the rest

509
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 3: of the eternals. I love the hint of Blade and

510
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: this kind of idea that Blades going around like helping

511
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: people who were connected to the supernatural or warning them,

512
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: like kind of putting together a team. That to me

513
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 3: was the one where at the end I was most excited.

514
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: Also it was phase five, but I did lose it

515
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: about the Victor Timely thing only because that is a

516
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: ridiculous character that I own all appearances because he's in

517
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 3: like six things. So it always kind of exciting when

518
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 3: they throw something out there that's really deep cut. But

519
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: then I think a problem with this era of the

520
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: MCU is like doing that and then not necessarily delivering

521
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: on that promise. So we'll see what happens. What about you.

522
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: The Ebony Blade is my technical favorite, but my emotional favorite.

523
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: And this surprised me is it's true. Is Eddie Brock,

524
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, no way home, getting transported back to

525
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: his universe but leaving a little dollop of symbiote like

526
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: on a napkin.

527
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: That one.

528
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: I like that one.

529
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: That's really also, I will actually say, in a great context,

530
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 3: that's a great answer because in the context of Jacob's

531
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: question arguably the hugest impact that has not been followed up.

532
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: That was years ago. Now, guys, we literally could have

533
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: a venom or a symbia or a version of it

534
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: in the MCU now, and that's how long that's been stewing.

535
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: So I agree. I thought that one was really fun,

536
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: also really hilarious to have that big reveal that he's

537
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: gonna end up in the MCU, and then he's just

538
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: not in the fight, he has nothing to do with it,

539
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: and at the end he's just like chilling in a

540
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: bar and it's like, you're back, your back.

541
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Baby's so good, so funny.

542
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: Josh asks, I will say, Josh asks, but also argues

543
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: very well for this point. So I'm curious whether either

544
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: of you believes that Rainie would have been a better

545
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 3: option to send to storms End instead of Luke. My

546
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: initial thoughts on why Raynise would have been a better option, Oh,

547
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: let the Blacks know that they have an offer out

548
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: at storms End already, so as stronger and misery than

549
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: Luke to challenge the Greens offer. Her mother was a Barathian,

550
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: so stronger blood connection than Luke allegedly has. Rainice has

551
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: more experience navigating the realm and interacting with high Lord's

552
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: no question, no question, Malise is an older and larger

553
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: dragon compared to Arak. So it seems to be a

554
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 3: bad use of Rainie to go to storms End and

555
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: then patrol the Narrow See rather than going directly to

556
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: the Narrow Sea. And it seems like they missed an

557
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: opportunity to play a stronger hand at Storm's End and

558
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 3: keep Luke in the fold.

559
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, Josh, you nailed it.

560
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the issue.

561
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: I think the issue is.

562
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: This is now twenty twenty hindsight, I understood while it

563
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: looked it obviously it looks terrible in hindsight considering what happened.

564
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: But I understand what Raniera was thinking in that here

565
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: is a less like if you send Rainie and Mallies

566
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: that is aggressive, yeah, and you know maybe a fight

567
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: would start. And now the war's here, right, and at

568
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: this point in time, Raniera is thinking avoid the war,

569
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: avoid the war? How can we avoid the war? And

570
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: so sending you know, sending Luke.

571
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: I think was.

572
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: It was smart in the sense of, you know, he

573
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't be out and out attacked so young.

574
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: His dragon is not a threat.

575
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: And really that's the way it almost did play out,

576
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: if not for the fact that the other side just

577
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: flat out lost control of their dragon, Like they just

578
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: lost control of the dragons have a mind to their own.

579
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: It did. It almost worked, and I think you're right,

580
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: You're obviously right. But at that point in time, you know,

581
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: Raniero was thinking, how can we avoid war, maybe you know,

582
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: by sending by sending my son, I'm kind of one

583
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: signaling I'm looking for peace. And also look how important

584
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: this is to me. I'm sending my own blood to

585
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: carry this message. The issue to me was that they

586
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: just didn't prepare Luke Yough like he should have had

587
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: like hard orders. If you see another dragon, you turn around,

588
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: you come back, then we'll send a raven. We'll deal

589
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: with it that way. Two, it may come, it may

590
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: come to the point where there's like a marriage deal

591
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: being thrown around. Here is what you are allowed to bargain,

592
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: you know, like here's here's here are the terms that

593
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: maybe we could we could kind of like soft handshake

594
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: on rather than just Luke being like, oh, I don't know,

595
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: I can't really do that, and I guess I gotta

596
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: go back and ask my mom, and like just headed

597
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: over there with like a set of positions already that

598
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: he can deal with. And then again, number one thing

599
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: is like have you seen another dragons? Just turn around,

600
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: fly back?

601
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, just turn around, fly back.

602
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: Like we lost, we lost the race to get there first,

603
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: and if you lose the race to get their first,

604
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: turnaround and come back.

605
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I also think it

606
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: was like an emotional decision rather than a strategic one,

607
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: Like it was coming from the heart and this idea

608
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: of that there was still a way to end this

609
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: war and men this rift, and Luke was a representation

610
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: of that. But I think you're right also it was

611
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: like playing four D chess, but without thinking about any

612
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: of the absolute wild card parts of that, like the dragons,

613
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: like teenage boys, like all the kind of horrible things

614
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: that ended up going wrong. But yeah, on a strategic

615
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: level and a hindsight level, I'm sure that Raniera probably

616
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: thinks every single day that she should have sent Renie.

617
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: Yes.

618
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

619
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: Next Camilla asks, if you had to choose only one

620
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: of each, what's the most interesting book or comic you read,

621
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: TV show, movie you watched last year?

622
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

623
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: Wow, Rosie what do.

624
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: You whoh oh man, oh yeah, you know what I'm

625
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: gonna pick. So I watched this was just a movie

626
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: that I just really loved and I thought it was

627
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: so good. And it's an old movie, a really really

628
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: great old movie called Purple Noon, and it just really

629
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: impacted like everything else I was thinking about this year

630
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: that I've watched since. So it's Elaine Delon in his

631
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: first major film. He's really really great. Oh well, it's

632
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 3: directed by Renee Clement and it's basically like it's an

633
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: adaptation of the talented mister Ripley, but it's like a

634
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: French sixties noir movie and it's so good. And the

635
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: way that they adapt it and make it into a

636
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: movie about the process of how and why he is

637
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: so good at stealing people's identities really impacted a lot

638
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: of the way I was thinking about film and TV

639
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: as I watched it this year. Like Secret Invasion, we

640
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: were talking about how like you never really understand the

641
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: spycraft or the scrolls, or why they do the things

642
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 3: they do, and that's part of the reason why it

643
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: kind of didn't really work, whereas something like Mission Impossible,

644
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: Dead Reckoning, so much of it is about the spycraft,

645
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: about the gadgets, about the plans, and that really works.

646
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: And I was thinking back to Purple Noonla also just

647
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: like an achingly cool movie where people are kind of

648
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: lounging around in the hot Mediterranean sun. It's incredibly homoeroic,

649
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: just like the American version. Also, very interesting kind of

650
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: theme throughout this year of things that I've watched has

651
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: been like realizing that a lot of things that are

652
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: adapting a source material are really adapting versions that have

653
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 3: come before. So like I had this realization with Batman movies.

654
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: Basically every Batman movie is really just kind of adapting

655
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: Batman nineteen eighty nine. They're never really adapting the comics.

656
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: A lot of them share the same beats, something like

657
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: The Batman, which I loved, and then rewatching The Dark Knight.

658
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: The Batman actually has a lot of the same emotional

659
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: and narrative beats as The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight

660
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: has a lot of the same emotional narrative beats as

661
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty nine. So like kind of realizing a lot

662
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: of times that when films are made, they're sort of

663
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 3: remaking that other film versions rather than the source material. Itself,

664
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: and that is very much the case with Purple Noon

665
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: and the American talented mister Ripley, which is really great

666
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: and enjoyable, but that movie, so much of it is

667
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: actually HARKing back to this really gorgeous, funny, weird French film.

668
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: And the coolest thing about it is like the movie

669
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: kind of opens as like a broad ribold comedy before

670
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: it takes this kind of darker turn, and I feel

671
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 3: like that's something that a lot of American movies can't

672
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: really do. Like the talent of mister Ripley is just

673
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: this really straight down the line, like scary crime thriller

674
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: with like these kind of undertones of homo eroticism, which

675
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: is really great. But Purple Noon is like really expensive

676
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: at times, it's like a vacation movie. At times, it's

677
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: a romance, at times, it's a thriller. At times it

678
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: edges on the horror and it's but it's kind of

679
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 3: funny throughout. So that's definitely interesting and kind of impactful

680
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: on the way. I was looking at other things that

681
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: would be mine for the Lost, for the Lost, Yeah,

682
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: what about you.

683
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick Gosh for a movie, I'm gonna pick

684
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: an old movie too, So you know Oppenheimer of courses

685
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: in theaters. You might have seen Oppenheimer star Cillian Murphy

686
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: uh inside the Criterion closet late talking about the movie Lahine,

687
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: which he shared his kids recently. Wow, and I owned

688
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: the I own the Blu ray. I remember seeing it

689
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: at a some at the Indie theater in the late

690
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: nineties when I worked at the When I worked at

691
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: movie theaters, we had like a a deal with all

692
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: the movie theaters in town where you could get a

693
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: discount to go to like the Art Movie Theater and

694
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: see various movies. And I saw like Run a Little

695
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: Run there, I saw Lahyne there. I saw a lot

696
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: of stuff there. And I remember so Lahyne by Matthew Kassovitz,

697
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: who's also an actor. You might have seen him in

698
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: Munich as the bomb maker nerdy guy and that kind

699
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: of like Spy Group. He directed a movie Calledahan came

700
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: out in nineteen ninety five, and it honestly feels like

701
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: it could have come out yesterday.

702
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable.

703
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: All the issues that it deals with France is dealing

704
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: with still to this day. There's same exact issues, the

705
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: same exact complaints, and it just feels like an incredibly visceral,

706
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: vital movie. It opens with this wonderful play on you know,

707
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: the the Travis Bickle taxi driver You're talking to me

708
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: scene that has this wonderful I don't want to spoil it,

709
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: but like one of the great like in camera tricks

710
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: where the guy's looking in the mirror.

711
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and.

712
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: You know, I don't I don't want to spoil it

713
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: because it's just an amazing shot. You know, James Cameron

714
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: has also stole that for The Terminator, Like it's just

715
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: like one of these wonderful like in camera tricks, and

716
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: it's all in black and white, and it's I would

717
00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: describe it as like it's just a it's an unbelievable

718
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: movies was the nineties in that it has that kind

719
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: of you know, lost aimless youth, quick cut kind of

720
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: energetic style. But it's just fucking great. And again it

721
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: feels it really feels like it could have come out yesterday.

722
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: Well literally, I think the riots that were happening recent

723
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: most recently in France, they were about the death of

724
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: a young black man at the hands.

725
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Of the place exactly.

726
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: The movie is about the same thing, and also Vincent

727
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: Cassel is in it, like probably his breakout roll, like

728
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: such an unreal movie. This is one of my most

729
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: This is one of my most rewatched movies, Like when

730
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: I was kind of like when I was like an

731
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: angry teen and I was living with like a bunch

732
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: of friends and stuff like, this was the movie that

733
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: we felt like it kind of even in like that

734
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 3: would have been in the early two thousands, twenty years

735
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: after the movie, ten years after the movie came out,

736
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: that felt like it still captured the way we felt

737
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: about things and that kind of anger and that like

738
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: that bubbling like fury of like living in a really

739
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: unfair system. And yeah, like you said, it's it's I'm

740
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: not surprised that he bore out because it feels so

741
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: relevant now just as it could be, like just as

742
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: it was then. So another one of those things where

743
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: you're like this is so great, but like nothing's changed.

744
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's changed. We have not moved nothing. We've not

745
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: moved forward even an inch. Everything feels exactly the same.

746
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: And then for books, I would say Tomorrow and Tomorrow

747
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: and Tomorrow by Gabrielle seven book is Sneaks up on You.

748
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil it, but it's kind of

749
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: through the lens of of different styles of video game narratives,

750
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: and there's one about two thirds through the book where

751
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: everything comes together, the plot, the characters, the story that

752
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: particular little conceit of this like video game lens and

753
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: it just hits so hard, wonderful, wonderful, very surprising and

754
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: good book. And then I've talked about it. I think

755
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: I've talked about it previously. But probably the most like

756
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: eye opening, like nonfiction book that I read this year

757
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 2: is Chris Miller's Chip War, The Fight for the World's

758
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: most Critical Technology just about how now I'm going to

759
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: sound like fucking Kramer on CNBC, but like, but how

760
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: micro chips are basically oil. That's yeah, the twenty first

761
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: century oil really really interesting and it puts a lot

762
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: of the things that are kind of like happening in

763
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: the news in context.

764
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: Good books. Yeah, one of the for me, the book

765
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: would probably be So there's this author called TJ. Cloone

766
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: who wrote this book called The House in the Cerulean Sea,

767
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: and it's basically it's one of my all time favorite

768
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: books now and that book was like a revelation when

769
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: I was reading it, kind of like tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow.

770
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: It's like, you know what's going to happen, but the

771
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: way that you get there and the outcome is very different.

772
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: It's essentially like what if you crossed Hitchhiker's Guide to

773
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: the Galaxy with the X Men. So it's like it's

774
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 3: about a guy who works in a kind of dystopian

775
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: future where kids who have powers are put into orphanages,

776
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: and it's kind of this Douglas Adams esque like very

777
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: so it's kind of surreal but in your own word,

778
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: very bureaucratic, very boring life. And his job is to

779
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: investigate the orphanages and check whether they're taking care of

780
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 3: the kids. But he's more of like a box ticker

781
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: than anything else. And he gets sent to an orphanage

782
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: run by a man who's very like controversial and scene as,

783
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: very outside of the system. And the orphanage is in

784
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: like a small seaside town and all the kids there

785
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: are like unbelievably kind of dangerously powerful, and it's this beautiful,

786
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: like coming of age story, but coming of age in

787
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: like your fifties, and it's a romance and it's queer

788
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: and the characterization of like the kids and the powers

789
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: are so unbelievable. It's such a wonderful book. And then

790
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: I've read his other books that he's really since are

791
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: just equally in that zone of like supernatural, cozy, queer,

792
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: but just never really read anything else like it, Like

793
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: it's so good, And every time I recommend it to someone,

794
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: they'll just text me the whole time they're reading it

795
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: going like what the fuck? Like this is so good.

796
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: So that would definitely be my book. And then my

797
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: comic one, which I've talked about a lot on the pod,

798
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: but I do think it kind of changed the game,

799
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: and I've been happy to see it is. Jamilla Rouser

800
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: and Robin Smith wrote made a book called wash Day Diaries,

801
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: which is like a slice of life book about black

802
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: friends in Brooklyn and their haircare regimes and kind of

803
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: their life through the lens of that and their friendships

804
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: and their romance. I feel like it was rightfully very acclaimed.

805
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: It's beautiful, it's so sweet, But also I feel like

806
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: it kind of opened the doors now to be having

807
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 3: more slice of life comics, having more romance comics, having

808
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: more comics that are more in the vein of what

809
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: manga has been doing for a long time, what indie

810
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: comics have been doing, but putting it into that publishing market.

811
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: So if you have still haven't read it, just get

812
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: a copy because it's like really lovely.

813
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: X Ray Vision will be back.

814
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: And we're back.

815
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: Danielle asks what comics, arc, universe or characters would be

816
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: best served by an animated adaptation.

817
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: Well, this is kind of a cheap, but I feel

818
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: like almost all of that, I'd like anyone you could think, No,

819
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: I agree, I feel like that if if you do,

820
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: feel like the target is a lot bigger with animated,

821
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: and if you nail it, it's going to be wonderful.

822
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: And you can do so many things that you know,

823
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: reported directly from whatever your source material is and can

824
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: be essentially like they are in the source material without

825
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: having to do sets or CG or any kind of

826
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: big you know, explosive stunts or whatever. And I think

827
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: most of the honestly, most of them would probably be

828
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: better served. And the harder version is the live action. No,

829
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: I think sense the harder to do.

830
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, I think you're totally right. I think there's

831
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: a reason why animated adaptations are so beloved and it's

832
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: because they can adapt something so singularly but also so

833
00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: expansively because it's much simpler. I won't say because the

834
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 3: amount of work that goes into these things is immense,

835
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: but you can your imagination can be a lot bigger

836
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: when you're doing an animation. I think about that's why

837
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: people love like Batman, the animated series, That's why they

838
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: love X Men ninety two. That's I was just thinking

839
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: about Spawn. If you've never watched the HBO Spawn series,

840
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: it's unbelievable. It's like one of the few Western R

841
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: rated animated shows. It's really scary. It sums up everything

842
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: that the comics did well. And I love the much

843
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: maligned Spawn movie because it's totally fun. But if you

844
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: put those two next to each other, you can see

845
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: the difference in what you're able to achieve in animation

846
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: and what you're able to achieve in the space of

847
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: like a live action movie, especially in the nineties, when

848
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: you're like, don't have necessarily the effects or the budget

849
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: to do what you want to do. If I was

850
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 3: going to pick, like, you know what, I just want

851
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: to see more X Men stuff, and I know that

852
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: we're getting X Men ninety seven. But in my head,

853
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 3: I just that's where I immediately go is, like I

854
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: want to see an X Men animated movie that gets

855
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 3: a cinema release. I want to see like them adapting

856
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: really incredible. You know, there was a Star Wars comic

857
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: called Droids and that was tied to like a cartoon

858
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: and everything. But like I would love to see like

859
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: a Pixar Droids movie, Like I want to see right,

860
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: you can imagine it immediately. Like I would love to

861
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 3: see an Ardman kind of adaptation of something like Super

862
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: Pets or the you know, the Pet Avengers. Like I

863
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: think there's so many spaces and I'm hoping with you know,

864
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: Mario being a billion the first billion dollar movie of

865
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: the year. I'm sure Turtles is gonna do super well.

866
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: I would love to see studios investing, oh obviously Spider Verse,

867
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: Like I want to see studios investing more into that

868
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: space because I do think it should be we should

869
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: be getting the same amount of live action and animation

870
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: adaptations of these things, especially in comics where illustration and

871
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,959
Speaker 3: animation are so intertwined.

872
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phil asks love the part. I mean really relatively

873
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: new comic book reader. I'm looking for recommendations for omnibus reads,

874
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 2: a format I enjoy because they can be so thoughtfully constructed.

875
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: My favorite so far is Grant Morrison's Batman Volume two,

876
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: Can't Go Wrong. Yeah, I loved how it jumped between

877
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: Grayson and Damien's story and Bruce Wayne's incredible jury through time.

878
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: Do you have any recommendations for a well constructed omnibus story, Rosie.

879
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, this is like such one of the

880
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 3: best things about being a comics reader right now, when

881
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: comics are so popular, when they're inspiring the biggest movies

882
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 3: on as is, we are getting so many good collect editions.

883
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: I have two that I always go to that I

884
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 3: think are really easy. I obviously Grant Marson's Batman Iconic,

885
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: So my two would be, if you liked that, get

886
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: a new x Men collection. Morrison and Frank Quietly's New

887
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 3: x Men. Such good, weird stuff, and it will grip

888
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: you from the opening double page spread, which is just

889
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: absolutely bonkers. It feels almost like an introduction to the

890
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: X Men, So I think you can read it and

891
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: never really needed to know a lot about the x Men,

892
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: though it will color your experience of the x Men

893
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: going forward. For me, it's the best, most interesting version

894
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: of Cyclops, but it's totally different than any other version.

895
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: So I think the Morrison quietly and many many other

896
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: artists X Men run is a really really great read

897
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: that is just such a joy. Also, they now have

898
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: a very affordable, very enjoyable Young Avengers collection, the McKelvey

899
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 3: and Gillan and Matt Wilson Young Avengers, And I think

900
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: that is like one of the most readable singular stories

901
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: that you can really feel like you've just read a

902
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: graphic novel, you've read an omnibus where the whole thing

903
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: fits together and you get such a satisfying read. So

904
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: those are my two that if I'm in the comic

905
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: shop and I hear people saying like I don't really

906
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: know what I should read, I always pull those two

907
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: out if they're around and kind of goho you are.

908
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: This one's good.

909
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: I will add on to that. I'll say that Uncanny

910
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: X Men Omnibus Volume one, which is basically the giant

911
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: size X Men, the Chris Claremont era, isn't I mean

912
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: you go right directly to the to the vein with

913
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: that one, Like it's just fucking great. It's great from

914
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 2: beginning to end. You don't get all the way through

915
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: the Phoenix saga with that one, but it will certainly

916
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: we wet your appetite and it's just like mind blowing storytelling.

917
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: David es Squier was with us last week talking about it.

918
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 2: I would say, for something, you know one that I

919
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: don't know if it's underrated, but to me, Annihilation and

920
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: Annihilation Conquest, there's an omnibus for each event are two

921
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: of like the best crossover events that Marvel's done in

922
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: like the last twenty years. Huge steaks, entire galaxies getting destroyed,

923
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: like war throughout the Galaxy, just really really fun formation

924
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: of the of the modern Guardians of the Galaxy team

925
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: happens there and it's just a swashbuckling space adventure par excellence.

926
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: And then you know what, the Invincible Omnibus.

927
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it.

928
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: Omnibus is fucking great.

929
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: Now.

930
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: It's like massive, it's.

931
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: A ton It's massive and really good. Now, be warned

932
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 2: if you are new to Invincible and you're really into

933
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: the show, the story that's in the show is basically

934
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: done by like one fifth through the Eyes.

935
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: You will spoil yourself.

936
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 2: You will spoil yourself for the future if you pick

937
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: it up. But it's fantastic. It's fantastic.

938
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna so the last two. I'll say one is

939
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, like, go to your comic shop by

940
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: it because it's one of the best collections. They just

941
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: reprinted it. And I will also say the Hawkeye, the

942
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 3: Matt fraction David a half. That's it's a beautiful looking trade.

943
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: You're gonna be really happy with that when you read it.

944
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 3: They did a new version of it. Reach it's great.

945
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: I will say, as an out there one, just because

946
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: it is one of the greatest collected omnibus formats of

947
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: all time. Try Akira. Look, it's totally out in it.

948
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 3: You're noon the comics. I get it. It's like a

949
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: really intense thing. But those those phone book style Akira

950
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 3: omnibuses are so enjoyable to read. Yeah, there you are,

951
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 3: Jason's got you can get them. They are like they

952
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: were a staple of our childhood. They're so beautiful, that

953
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: art is unbelievable. They're black and white. You can buy

954
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: the hardcover ones Dark Horse Died, or you can walk

955
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: into any comic shop and probably bookshop and just pick

956
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: up the first one. It's worth a try. It's really dense,

957
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: it's really crazy, but the art is beautiful and it

958
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 3: was It really feels like it was just made to

959
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: be read in these formats. So there's a few that

960
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: you can pick up. Let us know what you think

961
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: about them. So Sergio asks, and I think it's a

962
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: great question, because I think a lot of people are

963
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 3: kind of thinking along these lines. For the past two years,

964
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: I've been writing a TV show in my free time,

965
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: and even though the chances of it ever seeing the

966
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: light of dare slim to none, I never stopped doing

967
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 3: it because something I truly enjoy. Now I've checked the

968
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: guidelines on the WGA website and I think I'm in

969
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: the clear since I'm not part of the guild or

970
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: currently trying to pitch to any studios, which he mentions

971
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 3: he wouldn't even know where to start. But I wanted

972
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: to know if it will be frowned upon if in

973
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: the future people pitch stuff that they wrote on their

974
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 3: own spare time during the strike. He says, he just

975
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: wants to be sure, and he thought we were the

976
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: best people to ask.

977
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 2: So what do you think I would say? Uh, well,

978
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: how I guess the question would be like, how are

979
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: you pitching, you submitting, or you like sending in a script.

980
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: I would just wait until the action is over, just

981
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: to be safe. Now Animated is a different union that

982
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: isn't necessarily covered by WGA guidelines, but I would say

983
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: just to be safe.

984
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: Just wait, just wait, because then you're in Souldari. Also,

985
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: I think Sergio has a fear here that like, because

986
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: he wrote it during the strike, would that mean it

987
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: was ineligible or some way scabbing? But no, that's like

988
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: you're a personal project that you're writing. We all have

989
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 3: comic books or pilots that we work on in our

990
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 3: own spare time. This is about not giving the studios

991
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: who are struck content in the place of the stuff

992
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: that is being held from them. So as long as

993
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: you're not pitching or anything until the action is over.

994
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: If you're writing something your TV show, you finished writing

995
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 3: it during the strike. If you wait until the action

996
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: is over and pitch it, it doesn't matter when you

997
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: wrote it.

998
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 2: I would also say, yes, that's right. I would also

999
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: say for other you know, listen, I'm a very new

1000
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: TV writer as well, Like I hesitate to give advice,

1001
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: but I would say you know, one of the things

1002
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 2: that I've found most useful is one thing about your script.

1003
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 2: First as a way to show people like I understand character,

1004
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: I understand story, and secondarily and only like a very

1005
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: very lagging second of being like, this is a thing

1006
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: I can sell, because really the best way in is

1007
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: to show folks you can write. Start writing other shows,

1008
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: other people's projects, get a job writing, and then when

1009
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: the opportunity to arise is try and pitch the dream project.

1010
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 2: And then I would say, like as a third thing,

1011
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: it's really is, of course, really hard to break in.

1012
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: If there's a TV like wherever the Portuguese television market,

1013
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 2: wherever that's located, wherever the center of the industry is

1014
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: like in your country, try and go there and meet people.

1015
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: I think one of the things in this era, the

1016
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: era of the internet, that can you feel like you're

1017
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: connecting with people because you meet them online and they

1018
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: reach or stuff and maybe they put you know, will

1019
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: point to something you rote, and you you're creating this

1020
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: network of people. But like, nothing really beats meeting someone

1021
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 2: in person, showing that you exist in the in the

1022
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: meat space, like you're a real person in the world.

1023
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: There's just it's just a difference, and some a certain

1024
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: kind of alchemy happens from that because you just it.

1025
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: It's hard to really feel like a person exists unless

1026
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 2: you meet them in person. And once you meet them

1027
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: in person, a huge part of breaking into any kind

1028
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: of creative community is are you like do people perceive

1029
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: you as like a good hang?

1030
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: Are you a person?

1031
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: Talent often is like again a secondary priority. It's like,

1032
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: can I spend eight hours a day in a room

1033
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: with this person? You cannot want to kill him.

1034
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: Vibes?

1035
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and that can only be transmitted in person.

1036
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: So if you can spend time wherever the center of

1037
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: the Portuguese television industry is, for like a week or

1038
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, if you can figure out a

1039
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: way to do that, try and do that, Try and

1040
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 2: do that, and try and meet people.

1041
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: I say that's absolutely true also because those opportunities are

1042
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: afforded to people who are in those spaces a lot

1043
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 3: of times. And like I never thought I would be

1044
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: a full time writer, let alone a podcast host, let alone.

1045
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: Just before the strikes began, in a few months before,

1046
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: I'd been approached because I lived in LA because I

1047
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: was known by other people about pitching for an animated show.

1048
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: So I got to script my own. I got to

1049
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 3: submit my script to the WGA to have it, you know,

1050
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: kind of have them know that it existed. And obviously

1051
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: then the strikes happened, so I didn't know what happened

1052
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: with it. But that wouldn't have been something I could

1053
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 3: do if I wasn't in La. Yeah, you know the

1054
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 3: fact that you're here and you have those opportunities being

1055
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: close and in proximity and sort of meeting people and

1056
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 3: being like, hey, this is what I'm into, this is

1057
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: what I do. That's a really good way. So I

1058
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: love that because I've been thinking about it a lot recently.

1059
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: It's it's really really important, and I understand that it's

1060
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: also like not easy to listen. I dropped five figures

1061
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: to move to Laws with my own money and like, yeah,

1062
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: crashed my savings.

1063
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: But it was the right thing to do because.

1064
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: You just need to People need to see your face

1065
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: and catch your vibe and understand what you're like, know

1066
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: that you're around, and then the thing that will happen is,

1067
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: oh I know that guy assert you.

1068
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know him. He gave me one of

1069
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: his things. I wonder if he's any good. He's like

1070
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: a good hang and stuff.

1071
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: Will strive to come from that. It won't feel like

1072
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: anything's happening for a while, but that's part of putting

1073
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: in the work. You're doing the important part the writing

1074
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: to get it out there. You've got to get yourself

1075
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: out there. So try and do that if you can.

1076
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1077
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: Up next not out Cool.

1078
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 3: In today's nerd out, where you tell us what you

1079
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: love them why, a theory you're excited to share, or

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Speaker 3: a quick question we can answer. Corey has another comic

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Speaker 3: book question very appropriate for today. Hey, Jeson and Rosie,

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Speaker 3: you have all really inspired me to start reading comics

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Speaker 3: and graphic novels. I just read Vifa Fender and I

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Speaker 3: loved it. I also really enjoy companion style pods that

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Speaker 3: discuss the media I'm consuming. Do you have any recommendations

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Speaker 3: or chit tips for finding people talking about classic comic

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Speaker 3: book runs?

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Speaker 2: Wow, Rosie, do you know of anything?

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Speaker 3: So I would say, you know, Jay and Miles explain

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Speaker 3: the x Men if you've been reading any x Men.

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Speaker 3: That's a real classic one that people love most. I

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Speaker 3: have a lot of x cerebrodcast that's another space where

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Speaker 3: you're going to hear people one of the ones that

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Speaker 3: I love. Now it will all be all Marvel, but

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Speaker 3: it was recently announced it's coming to an end. Me

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Speaker 3: and Jason have actually both been guests on it. But

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Speaker 3: Marvel's pull List is really great because it's incredibly eclectic.

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Speaker 3: Each episode is somebody different talking about a different Marvel run.

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Speaker 3: So if you're reading something and you go on poll List,

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Speaker 3: you can just search the episodes and see if somebody's

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Speaker 3: spoken about it. So I think that's a really good space.

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Speaker 3: Even though you'll only get an episode about each one,

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Speaker 3: those podcasts are out there and there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: fun stuff. Jason, how about you.

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Speaker 2: I Serebercast as well. I listened to quite regularly. It's less,

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Speaker 2: it's more current, and there's more reference.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: There's like a lot of references through the very particular

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Speaker 2: voice of that podcast about storylines and arcs from the past,

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Speaker 2: but it's mostly about like what is what is currently

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Speaker 2: happening again? And they'll have guests on talking about like

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Speaker 2: their favorite character, you know what, like fat Man and

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Speaker 2: Beyond Believe It or Not, like has had some the

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Speaker 2: Kevin Smith Pott has had some good moment, it's Jane

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Speaker 2: Miles explaining the X Men. Yes, y, Yeah, definitely one

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Speaker 2: of the leaders in terms of what you're asking for.

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Speaker 2: I think is the most on the nose version of

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Speaker 2: the thing that you're asking for. And then like if

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Speaker 2: you want to uh, the pullist is great as a

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Speaker 2: way to kind of get into Marvel centric now just

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Speaker 2: like classic runs. Yeah, people's your your favorite, person's favorite.

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Speaker 2: The only thing is it's it is obviously quite blinkered

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Speaker 2: because it's just gonna be Marvel stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Corey. If you have theories, passions or quick

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Speaker 3: questions you want to share, hit us up at x

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Speaker 1: That's it for us. Rosie and he plugs keep.

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