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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we're starting a little late here as

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Speaker 2: you could hear previously there if you were just listening

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Speaker 2: to the Drive where we're replaying all six of the Steelers'

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl wins this week leading up all the way

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Speaker 2: up to Sunday. Of course, that was the first one

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Speaker 2: there over the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 3: So Steelers pulled it out. I was on the field there, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was on the edge of my seat and how

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Speaker 3: that was going to go. But they pulled it out.

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Speaker 3: They found the way winun nice defense, old school Franco

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Speaker 3: out there setting records so you.

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Speaker 2: Can listen in on those. Of course you can hear

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Speaker 2: those are the rebroadcasts on Seelers Nation Radio Live and

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Speaker 2: on Steelers dot Com, the official Steelers mobile app, or

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Speaker 2: on iHeart the iHeartRadio app as well, so lots of

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Speaker 2: different ways to listen to those. And it's always fun

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Speaker 2: to listen to Jack Fleming.

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Speaker 3: That's great stuff. Aaron Cope, That's good stuff, no doubt

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Speaker 3: about it. Yeah, things are a little different. You know,

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Speaker 3: they're talking about the rookie receivers and they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: them out there in this crucial situation.

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Speaker 2: You know, like they turned out in pretty good and

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Speaker 2: tarking Din was like ten to twenty six or three interceptions. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't get it done today, No.

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Speaker 3: Not quite. Defense wasn't bad. Yeah, maybe that team can

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Speaker 3: go somewhere do some things. Yeah next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, so welcome into the drive. Well, we're you know,

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Speaker 2: in the super Bowl week this week and starting to

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Speaker 2: get to the a lot of the off season stuff now, Matt,

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Speaker 2: And one of the things I wanted to talk to

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Speaker 2: start the show off with today is a lot of

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Speaker 2: times when you do or when we talk about drafts

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Speaker 2: we talk about are the positions in terms of, well,

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Speaker 2: these are these are higher priority positions?

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Speaker 2: the positions as a whole in terms of what are

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Speaker 2: the premium positions that you're looking for. Obviously, quarterback is one, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It stands alone and that's probably its own conversation. So

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Speaker 3: you're talking not stealer off season needs.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just talking in general.

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Speaker 3: When you're looking everything is equal, I need everything the same.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because I heard a good conversation. I was

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Speaker 3: listening to the Move the Sticks podcast on the way

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Speaker 3: here and Bucky and DJ we're just talking about these

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Speaker 3: with this is the offensive tackle position, because because what

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Speaker 3: center guard, you're still going to have a tough time

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Speaker 3: getting my homes on the ground as an edge pass rusher,

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Speaker 3: you know. And I think that's true for Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can't be one dimensional because especially

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Speaker 3: When you have a ro Kwan or a Warner boy,

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Speaker 2: Even to a certain degree. Matt Mulano. Yeah, Buffalo when

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Speaker 2: The same time, when you get those game changing safeties

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Speaker 2: the it'll come out on Thursday, the Steelers Defensive Backs piece.

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Speaker 2: Looking back at the season, and I know mag it

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And again we had a good conversation just a

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like the Fred Warner version of offense

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Speaker 2: I to me, I think I trend. It's the plan.

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Speaker 2: I go with the planet theory, where Okay, once I've

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Speaker 2: I tend to because there just aren't as many of

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Speaker 3: So, first of all, I mean this exercise is obviously

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Speaker 3: Chiefs are built. I'm going back to the old line. Well,

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Speaker 3: the Niners of the they have the best lineman in

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Speaker 3: That's because there's just so few of them in the

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Speaker 3: At least there's a lot more d lineman to pick from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think this is this is this year's

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Speaker 2: fix your offensive line, Yeah, you can fix your offensive

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Speaker 2: I mean that's just what there looks like.

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Speaker 3: There should be someone available if you pick five or

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Speaker 3: if you pick thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is there less of a But I'd have to

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Speaker 3: I bet it's pretty low. I mean I remember growing

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Speaker 3: But I was just sit there and count on yip.

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt we're talking there in the

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the thing he's been Robin that he's going

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Speaker 2: you're going to get a pretty good So Josie Jewel,

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Speaker 3: him to no end, but I think you'll probably use

436
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: your money better than elsewhere.

437
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 2: With that too. Yeah. The other one is the guy

438
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: you brought up yesterday, Willy Gay Junior too. His contract

439
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: you're looking at four years, twenty eight point two millions,

440
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 2: so basically seven million dollars a year for Willy Gay Junior.

441
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 2: He's twenty. It will be twenty six here this offseason.

442
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 3: Of all the options in the money we've linked to them,

443
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 3: that's my favorite. I think he's a sending. He can

444
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 3: really run. He's a really good athlete. I bet his

445
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 3: snap counts aren't super high, but they used four of them.

446
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 3: I mean it was kind of a unique.

447
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 2: Six hundred and twenty four snaps last year. Fifty eight tackles,

448
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 2: one sack, one force, fun but one interception.

449
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Bolton's their main guy. He's kind of

450
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 3: the number two. But Chanelle and Tranquill, who's also free agent,

451
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: play a lot, so they have this weird four linebacker

452
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: rotation depending on who they play.

453
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

454
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: So I don't think he'll be back. I think he's

455
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 3: somebody could get.

456
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they're going to be able to

457
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 2: afford that.

458
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 3: I mean, he's better than Alexander Yeah, I mean no,

459
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 3: he would younger and yeah, yeah, a better athlete at

460
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: this point, probably too.

461
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: Then you're looking at guys again as some of the

462
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 2: same guys that were out there last year. Bobby Wagner again, Yeah,

463
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner's crab with one hundred and eighty three tackles

464
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: last year.

465
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 3: Oh, that's friendly from the I thought people picked on

466
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: in this past year. I thought he was really good

467
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: with the Rams and they went back to Seattle and

468
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 3: probably should hang it up.

469
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a reason why team you could

470
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: run all over them. Yeah, I mean I think he

471
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: might be done. Yep, he'll be thirty four this offseason.

472
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: When him and Jamal Adams were on the field, people

473
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 3: wanted them to be on the field, you know what

474
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 3: I mean.

475
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: Levonte David also thirty four. Again, you're getting name value there.

476
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 2: He did have five sacks this year one hundred.

477
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 3: I think he's still good. I don't want to get

478
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: super old on defense. I mean, to be a one

479
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 3: year deal, that's the problem, you know, But he's going

480
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 3: to be a ring of honor buck. Are they gonna

481
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 3: let him go? I mean, I could see them just

482
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: making a friendly deal. He takes a million less, goes back,

483
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: leads that team and they won division last year.

484
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, beyond that, just looking here at some of the

485
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: there's not it's not a great last year.

486
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: No, we had like a dozen names last year that

487
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: I thought were all suitable upgrades to Bush.

488
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you still have Shaq. Leonard's going to be available

489
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: again this offseason.

490
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 3: Nobody wanted him when he was out. Yeah, I think

491
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: he's broke.

492
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: He might be broken. Zach Cunningham kind of the same.

493
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 2: The same Denzel Perryman.

494
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: He's in between the tackles, thumper, shorter guy. One I

495
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 3: do like is the Titans signed El Shahir from the

496
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 3: Niners to just a one year deal. He wasn't phenomenal

497
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: for the Titans, but I don't think it was a

498
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: huge huge deal for him. But he can really run.

499
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 3: He'll hit you. I mean, he makes some mistakes too,

500
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 3: but he was stuck in San Francisco behind two stars,

501
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 3: so he didn't play a ton, but he was pretty

502
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 3: good for the Titans.

503
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: Out of some interest there, yeah, I'm just looking here

504
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: at the outside linebackers as well here, because yeah, they

505
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: probably lump some of those guys. You get some of

506
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: those weak side, offside outside linebackers even strong side that

507
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: this would kick inside in a Steelers defense. And I'm

508
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: just seeing that there's anybody on here that fits that bill.

509
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: That is a position you'll see cap casualties. Yeah, you know,

510
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: to get oversigned or you know, over overspent on. So

511
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: there'll be some new names there, but it's not as

512
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: good as it was a year.

513
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: It really is. And I mean just even looking here

514
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: at the at the outside guys, yeah.

515
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 3: I wonder what they list them at. But Frankie Louvu

516
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: is really interesting to me. But I think he's going

517
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: to be expensive. I bet he's ten million from the Panthers.

518
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 3: L Uvu. People have no idea who he is and

519
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 3: the Panthers are terrible, but he makes a ton of plays.

520
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: He's a downhill guy. He's a great blitzer. Yeah, I

521
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: mean he would be the Steelers' best linebacker in my opinion,

522
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: and then you have a nice ripple effect there. I

523
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: don't know what he'd need, you know, in free agency.

524
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I do we see him. I've seen him

525
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: on other lists. I don't see him on this one,

526
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: which is kind of weird. But I don't see a

527
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: whole lot of guys on this list that even interest me,

528
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 2: to be honest with.

529
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: You, Yeah, I'm trying to think who who else I

530
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: was thinking of? Because boy, last year I really liked

531
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: the group. It's not great though, and I really think

532
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: the Steelers need to explore those waters. But his waters

533
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 3: are pretty shallow.

534
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.

535
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 3: Man.

536
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: Maybe just look here at linebacker just in general.

537
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and the spot track sometimes is a little

538
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 3: bit harder. The sorting is.

539
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit different here. Well, so they are.

540
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: They have Jerome Baker on here. I didn't think he

541
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: was a unrestricted.

542
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I thought he was a cap casualty to be

543
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 3: they're showing.

544
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: Him as an unrestricted. He would better.

545
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not a bad player, you know, I can

546
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: get the contract.

547
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: So Isaiah Simmons is on this list. Now this is

548
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: this is a more complete deal Okay, while she here

549
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: is the guy that they just list them as linebackers,

550
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: Louvu is on this Okay, all right, so this is

551
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 2: more good, more.

552
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: Completely too small a list there.

553
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Louvu.

554
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: Is very interesting. Is he like twenty four twenty seven?

555
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 3: I guess he didn't come out as a junior.

556
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a little a little older than what you'd

557
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: think some other guys on here, like a Cody Barton.

558
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

559
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if that helps you. Yeah, I don't

560
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 3: know that that does either mean you'd like them at

561
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 3: the end of last year just to get you out

562
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 3: of the season. But I don't think that's an upgrade.

563
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: Kenneth Murray, he didn't really. Yeah, he didn't work out

564
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: real well in uh.

565
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 3: I mean something like that. You start with the Chargers,

566
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: you could give him a Kwan Alexander deal if it's

567
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,239
Speaker 3: camp and you know they're still floating around out there,

568
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: and hope you can rejuvenate him. Even Isaiah Simmons Cardinals

569
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: game around gave him away for like a six round

570
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 3: pick because I knew they weren't going to sign him

571
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: at this stage and he didn't light the world on

572
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 3: fire and he's not really a safety he's not really

573
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: a linebacker, so who knows what happens with him. Yeah.

574
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 2: One of the other guys that would interest me here

575
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: might be like guy that we talked about this before,

576
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 2: Drew Trank one. Yeah, yeah, definitely, I mean twenty eight.

577
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: But they're probably not going to resign him. They signed

578
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: him to a one year deal this year you got before. Yeah,

579
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: you might be able to get something similar here, one

580
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: or two year deal for him to come in and

581
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: be the kwant Alexander.

582
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like they used him to spy Lamar a lot,

583
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: you know, a round a go. He runs well, he's smart.

584
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: He's not going to blow you away physically. He's not

585
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: six or five with long arms and any of that stuff.

586
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 3: But he's a solid football player. Again, the Steelers would

587
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 3: have killed to have him at the end of last year,

588
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 3: but that's not saying much. Yeah. I don't know that

589
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: he upgrades your position, but he fortifies it. Yeah, you know,

590
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: which might be the best you could do in this crop. Yeah,

591
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: I'm just just they don't have a contract for Louvu

592
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: by chance, to.

593
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: Louvu you're looking at, I think they do. Actually, Yeah,

594
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: market value on Louvu would be eleven point two to

595
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 2: be around ten.

596
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's a good player. He's older

597
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: than I thought, but he would be an upgrade.

598
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 2: I just don't know you're gonna spend that kind of right,

599
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: I would look more to do something.

600
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: I'm thinking like two year, fifteen million neighborhood, you know,

601
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: something like that.

602
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Market value on trank will six point nine million. That's

603
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: more than what I'm looking to do. Yeah, two years

604
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: thirteen point nine million.

605
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't pay play every snap, but he'd be very useful.

606
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: Again, I put I don't mind the Landon Roberts being

607
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: in a rotation.

608
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: No, I think it's great for him.

609
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

610
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: I don't want him to be a backup, right, No,

611
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: I want him to be those three to play. Oh yeah,

612
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: it just depends what the opponent is, what the situation is.

613
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 3: I don't want any of them to have to play

614
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: every down, but I think Hulcombe can.

615
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Would you would you pay money for a guy

616
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: like Jordan Brooks?

617
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: Maybe he's had flashes still twenty six, I say his

618
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: first round pick, late first round pick. I bet he

619
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: hasn't played a ton of snaps because I think he

620
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: missed almost an entire season and he's been in out

621
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: of the lineup. Yeah, but there's ability there maybe.

622
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean he played seven and sixty six snaps last

623
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, one hundred and eleven tackles, five sacks.

624
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Really and a couple of Did they have a price

625
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: on him?

626
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Uh, he's eleven million Cuya that's what you're looking at there.

627
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's kind of like the next tier.

628
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the linebacker contracts are Rokwan's

629
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: making like twenty and Edmonds is making like eighteen. I

630
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 3: don't think there's many in like the thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

631
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: sixteen range, and then you start getting into the tier

632
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: two non pro bowlers, but exciting guys that are making

633
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: over ten. I'd consider him. Yeah, that's a lot for

634
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: the position. I mean, I wish you knew what you're

635
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: buying a little bit more. He's got a little bit

636
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: of an incomplete grade.

637
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're even adding a Josh Uce and love the

638
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: player coming up because yeah, he's dead Russ. I don't

639
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: know that that's where he fits though.

640
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: I think he's small.

641
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: I think he's more of an inside backer. I think

642
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: that's what he would be in this defense.

643
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

644
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: I think it's like Herbiic just be a running hit guy.

645
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: He runs well, but he's a really good edge guy.

646
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, coming is a really good edge guy. Well,

647
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: he's he's like the tough kid from the Jets that's small,

648
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: they can't play every down and screams off the edge

649
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: and most tackles have a hard time dealing with the speed.

650
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: He's a one trick pony that way, but he can't

651
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: play off a ball. He's probably gonna be expensive, though.

652
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: They're looking here at the market value of well eight

653
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: point three. Yeah, that's that's a little more than I

654
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: spend on a project.

655
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't love this draft for

656
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Speaker 3: the linebacker group either.

657
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even Terrell Dodson. Yeah, he's gonna cost you, well,

658
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: four point eight is not bad.

659
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: That's not bad. He's still pretty young, right.

660
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's actually my Yeah, that's he's twenty five.

661
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Speaker 3: They drafted a linebacker this year. Probably Milana is going

662
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: to be back. They got cap issues, they have cap issues.

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Speaker 3: He probably hits the market. Yeah, i'd consider a two

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Speaker 3: year nine or two million.

665
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Speaker 2: Dollar five and twenty nine snaps this year had seventy tackles.

666
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Speaker 2: He missed when he was out three sacks of force fumble.

667
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Speaker 3: I think he's an ascending player that they were happy with.

668
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Speaker 3: Ye missed him when he was unavailable. That's not a

669
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Speaker 3: bad one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that would be one of the

671
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Speaker 2: look at So there's a few guys here to look

672
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Speaker 2: at it. Not like it was last year.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if there's some cap casualties that we don't

674
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Speaker 3: know about.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that could happen here. That's something Maybe we'll

676
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Speaker 2: revisit these positions once we hit get a little closer

677
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Speaker 2: to the March thirteenth deadline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, let's get to a break. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale LOLLI you're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

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Speaker 2: more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt

688
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this yesterday, but as

689
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Speaker 2: soon as if soon after the show, we get to

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Speaker 2: finish with the show, the NFL announced that it's going

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Speaker 2: to have the Eagles play a game in say O Paulo,

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Speaker 2: Brazil to kick off the season next year. It's going

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Speaker 2: to be a Friday night game. Okay, so it's not

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Speaker 2: the Thursday opener. It's it's the next day on a Friday,

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Speaker 2: and there's still.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be a Thursday opener. Whoever wins on Sundays going

697
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Speaker 3: to play that game, okay, and then there's gonna be

698
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Speaker 3: a Friday. Cool. That's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: Cool though, the Steelers could wind up playing in that game.

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Speaker 3: I guess to open the season is a good time

701
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Speaker 3: to do it because travel, you could go anytime.

702
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Speaker 2: You get a little extra time on On the back

703
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Speaker 2: side of it, since it's a Friday game.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't have buy in Week two though, I mean

705
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Speaker 3: Week two would be rough, even though you do get

706
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Speaker 3: two extra days. Yeah, I guess you'd start camp a

707
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Speaker 3: little earlier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, because the preseason is the preseason, preseasons, preseason.

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Speaker 2: But the reason I say the Steelers could have that game, yeah, well,

710
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Speaker 2: I know you figured it out, so there are obviously

711
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: the Eagles have nine teams that they play nine games

712
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Speaker 2: at home.

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Speaker 3: Next year that would count is a home game that

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Speaker 3: count as the home game for the Eagles. Well, so

715
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Speaker 3: jip for those teams, Yeah, you lose a home game

716
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Speaker 3: to oversea game.

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Speaker 2: Three of the teams that they're playing at home next year, Atlanta, Carolina,

718
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: and Jacksonville are already playing international games. So I highly

719
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Speaker 2: doubt that the league is going to make them play

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Speaker 2: two international games.

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Speaker 3: So Jacksonville will never play a game in a foreign

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Speaker 3: land besides London.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't think us it once too, but I can't

724
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Speaker 2: imagine that. So those three are probably.

725
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Speaker 3: Out at least five or really six nine.

726
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: So then you start looking at the other games, Well,

727
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: they rarely do that with Division.

728
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Speaker 3: Gason games probably won't happen, right they've played.

729
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Speaker 2: There have been forty four international games played in the

730
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Speaker 2: NFL now in the regular season. Seven of those have

731
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Speaker 2: been division games.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that's on purpose. I assume it is.

733
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Speaker 2: I assume so as well. The problem then becomes because

734
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Speaker 2: it's the opening week of the season. That's usually when

735
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Speaker 2: you do play Division, a lot of division games that start,

736
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Speaker 2: so they would have to they would have to veer

737
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Speaker 2: away from that. But if they don't want to make

738
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Speaker 2: it one of those division games. That only leaves three

739
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: other teams to play, so I know they.

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Speaker 3: Don't have a say in it. But let's say you're

741
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Speaker 3: the Commanders, wouldn't you rather go to Brazil to play

742
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Speaker 3: the Eagles than Philadelphia? I don't know, it doesn't sound

743
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Speaker 3: like a great trip. I mean, what's a long trip?

744
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Speaker 2: Is say Apoulo is like in the southern is in

745
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: southern Brazil, Like it's it's a long trip.

746
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Speaker 3: Okay, further, I believe so I wouldn't know.

747
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: I've never been, but you know, uh so that leaves

748
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Speaker 2: the Steelers, the Browns, and the Packers. Interestingly enough, the Steelers,

749
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: the Browns, and the Packers are three teams that have

750
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Speaker 2: only played internationally once.

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Speaker 3: Each, so I can't remember the last time any one

752
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Speaker 3: of those has played.

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Speaker 2: The Packers that were the most recent. They did it

754
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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. They had never played overseas before,

755
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: when they're all due when they played overseas. That made

756
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers then the team that has gone the longest.

757
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: Because the Steelers haven't done since twenty thirteen, I think

758
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: you're toil. So yeah, that's why that's now in play

759
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: for the Steelers to open them.

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Speaker 3: You it's coming one of these years.

761
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's not Rivingstone. I'm just I'm just

762
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Speaker 2: throw I'm throwing the facts out there. These are the facts.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles are going to play somebody.

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Speaker 2: Eagles are going to play somebody.

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Speaker 3: You are on the schedule as a home team for Philly.

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Speaker 3: So would you rather play the Eagles if you're the Steelers,

767
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Speaker 3: would you rather play the Eagles in Week one on

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Speaker 3: a Friday or in Philly in Week twelve?

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Speaker 2: Well, the Steelers haven't won in Philadelphia, millionaires. I have

770
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Speaker 2: seen some really good Steeler teams go to Philadelphia and

771
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Speaker 2: get beaten soundly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I think I'd rather go to Brazilia,

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Speaker 3: take my chances, you know, and you get somewhat of

774
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Speaker 3: a long week for Week two.

775
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're both dealing with the the issues there and

776
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Speaker 2: yeah you can leave early and you know whatever.

777
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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, so that on the table.

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Speaker 2: It's out there. We'll find out when the schedule comes out.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they I don't know if they will

780
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Speaker 2: announced those international games the opponents ahead of time. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they do.

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Speaker 3: I think they did last year. I think they tried

783
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Speaker 3: to think there was because they always gave us a

784
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: little bread crumbs here and there before we did the

785
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Speaker 3: schedule release show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe we'll find out a little bit before that,

787
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: but I.

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Speaker 3: Bet a birdie you'll tell you. Maybe we won't be

789
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 3: announced on the air, but I bet if that happens,

790
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: you'll know well before the.

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Speaker 2: When that got announced last and I started looking at

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Speaker 2: oh wait, the Steelers play in Philadelphia, I started looking

793
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Speaker 2: up all the machinations here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I would imagine you'd rather go to Europe,

795
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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, I've never been to Brazil, so I

797
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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it could be swell, but it's a long

799
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Speaker 3: trip and it's a long tray, right right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what the accommodations are like in the field

802
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: and all those things too.

803
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: A couple other things that I kind of dug up

804
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 2: this week. So Patrick Mahomes, we know about Patrick Mahomes.

805
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: He's a Super Bowl.

806
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, fourteen and three now in the playoffs. That's a

807
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: full season's worth of games.

808
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: Yes, seventeen full games, seventeen. He's been started for what

809
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: six years? Six years, so he basically first year he

810
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: did not start Sunday's game.

811
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Speaker 2: The Super Bowl will be his eighteenth career playoff start

812
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: in six seasons, so he's averaged three player.

813
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: Playoff games a year. And again, a bad, a terrible,

814
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: awful year for the Chiefs and Mahomes is losing the

815
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game. Yeah, that's as bad as it gets

816
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: for them.

817
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: He's fourteen and three in those games. Lost to Tom

818
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: Brady twice, Joe Burrow once, that's it.

819
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: Once is a Patriot, once is a Buck three and

820
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: oh against Josh Allen. Yeah.

821
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I want to know against Lamar, obviously, want

822
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: to know against Ben Roethlisberger. It's not like he's you know,

823
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: played garbage, you know.

824
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, AFC quarterback, great, think about who he beat?

825
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: The Shirts he beat Tua Alan Lamar, Lamar this year

826
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Speaker 2: to get to the Super Bowl.

827
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all of whom were in MVP conversations at some

828
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Speaker 3: point of the season.

829
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I just thought of that when people

830
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: talk about, well, your quarterback, you got you got to

831
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: figure out a quarterback who can go in and beat

832
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 2: you know, Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City.

833
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Speaker 3: Good luck, good luck with that, Yeah right, I mean

834
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 3: they don't really exist at the moment, and the one

835
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: that's on it twice ain't coming back.

836
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, everybody would take Josh Allen as their quarterback.

837
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Speaker 2: He's going three against him in the playoffs.

838
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Speaker 3: Of course, stay with Lamar, like those guys would start

839
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 3: playoff chokers.

840
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Speaker 2: Oh they just lost to Lamar the homes right in

841
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: his seventeen playoff games.

842
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: This is remarkable.

843
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned he's thrown for four eight hundred and

844
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Speaker 2: two yards.

845
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so think about like a regular season.

846
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: That's a regular season for the games, four hundred and

847
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: two yards with thirty nine touchdown passes and seven interceptions.

848
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Speaker 3: And we were joking off the air and he said that,

849
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, not only is that, like you mentioned, it's

850
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: like that's MVP numbers for anyone. If somebody does that

851
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: next year.

852
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: All teams of winning records, yea.

853
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: Good teams and would like cite DVOA like and they

854
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 3: played the hardest schedule in the history of the league

855
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 3: and it's not even close, you know, like they're all

856
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: playoff teams.

857
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you don't try to beat him and

858
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: figure out ways to beat him. Of course, you know

859
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: that the Steelers dealt with this for two decades with

860
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: pet with with Tom Burn in the same conference.

861
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: And the Raiders doubt with the Steelers no seventies and

862
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 3: right time period.

863
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: The Steelers still went to three Super Bowls and they

864
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: won two of them. They went to numerous you know

865
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: how many AFC Championship games in the in the Tom

866
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: Brady era.

867
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: But what's crazy is like the year they traded Tyreek,

868
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: I and many others thought, okay, this is their version

869
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: of a rebuild. You know, we just can't even this year.

870
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: And I said this year too.

871
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: Well, he's father Road, right, He's going to Brady's kryptonite.

872
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have any receivers. This isn't their year.

873
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: Someone in the AFC is going to show up. This

874
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: is Baltimore's year. Allen's finally going to get one. You know,

875
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: you're right. I don't know whom even picks one day,

876
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: but hard to pick against that pick against that guy.

877
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: It's remarkable. And this isn't new. I've said this for

878
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: well over a year. I think he's the greatest it's

879
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: ever played the game. But I really do.

880
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he's trending in it. So he's already got

881
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: fourteen playoff wins. As we said, that's already tied for

882
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: the third most all time. With Terry Bradshaw, Peyton Manning

883
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: and John Elway. Yeah, and yes, they's are all pretty good.

884
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: They're all Rushmore type guys, you know, not even like

885
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: Hall of Famers. They're moonwalking into the Hall of Fame,

886
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: like no Brain or first ballot Hall of Famers. Now

887
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 3: today's format helps because there's a little bit more playoff game. Yeah,

888
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: but he gets a buy every year anyways. I mean

889
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: how often is he played in the wild card round?

890
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? Once, Well it's gotten fewer now since there's only one.

891
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: By why But there's a reason he's never gone the

892
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: road because they always have a bye. Yeah, you know,

893
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's remarkable. And I know people are

894
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: out there like, come on, Williams and Brady's the best ever.

895
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: Brady is the best resume ever, you know, like, yeah,

896
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: you know, break down all your accomplishments, hand to someone,

897
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: and I don't think it'll ever be.

898
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 2: He's got thirty five career playoff wins.

899
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: Thirty five, right, I mean how many times he's been.

900
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: Holmes have to play twelve more years to get to them.

901
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, So how many is he now? Seventeen?

902
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: He has fourteen?

903
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: Fourteen? Well, maybe ten more years. I mean, I don't

904
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: think you keep this pace up. Yeah, and this pace

905
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 3: will be ridiculous. This pace would be ridiculous to make

906
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 3: it every year win three, two or three a year. Yeah, yeah, Still,

907
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 3: I just think nobody's had a six year stretch better

908
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: or a five year stretcher's a stretch.

909
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: There will be years where he doesn't make it. We

910
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 2: haven't seen that yet. We haven't seen it yet, but

911
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen.

912
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: Make the playoffs or make the super Bowl.

913
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: How about just make the conference championship game because he's

914
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: done that every year.

915
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: It does that every year. Again, a terrible season for

916
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 3: them is losing the fcchare.

917
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: He didn't even do that early in his career. They

918
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: didn't make the conference championship every single year in his

919
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: first six seasons.

920
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: As a starter, and they dominated that division much of

921
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: his career too. I mean, they had a lot of

922
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 3: buys as well a lot of home games. And you

923
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: mentioned it too, like those three losses. If Ford doesn't

924
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: line up off sides, maybe he's only two yeah, I mean,

925
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 3: and I'm sure one of the wins he maybe got

926
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: a break or two as well. But what he's doing

927
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: is off the charts.

928
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing, But again, that doesn't mean

929
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: you don't try to improve it. He just go into

930
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: a game against that particul killer team and it doesn't

931
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: seem to matter who you are, whether you have Josh

932
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: Allen Lamar or whoever. Knowing that you have, you're at

933
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: a disadvantage of quarterback. Yes, you have to be so

934
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: much better than the Chiefs everywhere else.

935
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: So you know, something we did on my podcast yesterday

936
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: kind of like we do. You know, whenever we previous

937
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: Steeler games, we are positioned by position, who do you

938
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 3: get the nod to? And of course he gave the

939
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 3: nod to quarterback to the Chiefs, and I said, party's good.

940
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 3: But this is iron close, you know, like who there's

941
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: no one in the league that gets a check mark

942
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: of the Chiefs. And again it's not even close. And

943
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 3: I still still think we have such talented to that position.

944
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: But what makes me a little crazy and I'm blaming

945
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: you guys listening, folks, this isn't a Steeler problem. This

946
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: is an AA pro NFL problem. This guy is transcendent.

947
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Yeah. Anyways, let's get

948
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: through another break. That's going to do it for our

949
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: number one of the drive. We'll be back with our

950
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Speaker 2: number two right after this.

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold football leaves here. Twenty four so you're

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