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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show starts right now. The Buck is back.

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Speaker 1: Everybody from a wonderful honeymoon with miss Missus, Missus Kerry Sexton.

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Speaker 1: We had a great time, and I gotta say, I

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Speaker 1: know Clay did fabulous shows while I was out. I

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Speaker 1: was a little bit a little bit troubled to see

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Speaker 1: that apparently we were almost invaded by UFOs and World

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Speaker 1: War three broke out while I was gone. Clay, thank

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Speaker 1: you for preventing the actual apocalypse of the play. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm just disappointed you came back from the South Pacific

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Speaker 1: and have zero tan. That's the first thing that I said.

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Speaker 1: When you sat down and I saw you on camera

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Speaker 1: for the VIPs out there, I thought you would be

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Speaker 1: sun drenched. I thought you would be looking like you

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Speaker 1: had been sipping, you know, from a pineapple for ten

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Speaker 1: straight days, and instead you look zero different at all.

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Speaker 1: Then when you left, Clay, my people from Ireland and

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Speaker 1: England and a little from Scotland, you know my heritage,

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Speaker 1: we tend not to do well with the UV index.

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Speaker 1: Twelve suns and I know what the UV index was

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Speaker 1: when you were talking about this. Oh man, you can

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Speaker 1: get you can get really crisp out there in the

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Speaker 1: sun in the South Pacific. Bora, Bora, highly recommended for

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Speaker 1: any of you thinking about a honeymoon, maybe a second honeymoon,

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Speaker 1: or going out with the family on a fabulous, fabulous

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Speaker 1: trip A long ways from the States, but still well

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Speaker 1: well worth it. But yeah, so I was out for

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Speaker 1: a week and I was getting a little worried. Clay

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Speaker 1: held it down, made sure that World War three did

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Speaker 1: not in fact breakout, So good job on that. The

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Speaker 1: alien invasion I don't mean illegal alien, I mean space alien,

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Speaker 1: with all the balloons shootdowns and the riddle't know what

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Speaker 1: those objects are. Things got a little crazy while I

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Speaker 1: was gone. But the good news is dynamic duo here

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Speaker 1: back at action. We're gonna fix it all. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: make sense of everything, and that includes today breaking down

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Speaker 1: for all of you. Biden just spoke. He is in

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Speaker 1: Poland and gave a bellicos speech about the war in

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Speaker 1: Ukraine with Russia, where he makes it very clear that

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Speaker 1: we are all in on back in Ukraine. This is unsettling,

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Speaker 1: to say the least Russia just backed out. The news

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Speaker 1: today is that Russia has suspended, i should say, the

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Speaker 1: last major nuclear arms treaty between Russia and the United States.

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Speaker 1: So while people can sit around and say and they will,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure now they will say, oh whatever, not a

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Speaker 1: big deal. This the extension of this treaty under the

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Speaker 1: Obama administration that Joe Biden was the Vice president and

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Speaker 1: foreign policy guru of was considered a huge achievement, Clay,

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Speaker 1: we were told. So the treaty that was a huge

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Speaker 1: achievement of the Obama administration is now suspended, and it's

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Speaker 1: a nuke treaty kind of a big deal. But you know, Slava,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine and all that stuff, right where we gotta put

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Speaker 1: your Ukraine pins on the whole thing? I wonder at

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Speaker 1: this point, we've also got Rhonda Santists traveling to Democrats

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Speaker 1: cities talking about crime, which is this is the soft

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Speaker 1: underbelly of the Democrat party right now. They should get

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Speaker 1: hit on crime much harder than they did even in

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Speaker 1: the midterms, and a number of other important stories. What

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Speaker 1: they're saying about Nicky Hailey Democrats, how they're attacking her

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Speaker 1: shows you just how grotesque democrats can be. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: I sit here and I wonder how much how much

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Speaker 1: money is too much money for the Ukraine War? How

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Speaker 1: much time and risk is too much risk? Because Russia

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Speaker 1: is all in their mobilizing estimate, say a half a million,

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Speaker 1: into this fight, and we're spending one hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 1: for years. I think that's the challenge, and that what

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Speaker 1: the geopolitical tensions that are going to grow as a result.

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Speaker 1: But a couple of things. One, there are reports now

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Speaker 1: that China is going to its chairman z is going

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Speaker 1: it feels like the war in Ukraine is being seen

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Speaker 1: cajoling everything they can to China to try to get

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Speaker 1: them now to provide more weapons material to Russia. So

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Speaker 1: be to this question. Buck sixty thousand is the most

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Speaker 1: recent report. Russians are dead, two hundred thousand have been wounded.

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Speaker 1: All what percentage of those deaths and woundings are a

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Speaker 1: result of United States war materials, We don't know, but

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Speaker 1: that they are. We have previously, with Solimani, for instance,

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Speaker 1: in Iran, set the standard of if you're providing material

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Speaker 1: weaponry that is leading to the deaths of Americans, we

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Speaker 1: will consider you to be an enemy combatant. How would

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Speaker 1: Russia not at this point, now that Joe Biden is

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Speaker 1: United States to be a default combatant in this war?

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Speaker 1: Because if we were fighting a war and there was

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Speaker 1: consider them to be combatants. It feels like we are

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Speaker 1: effectively in this war. We're giving them training. The West

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Speaker 1: weapon systems that we're providing. Additionally, does anyone think we're

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Speaker 1: not giving some form of intelligence support? Direct targeting support,

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Speaker 1: not something that would be talked about, but given the

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Speaker 1: have to assume that that's also going on. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's It was so illuminating that Zelenski has said

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Speaker 1: very clear for all the people out there who's saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: why do you say it's not going to be nuclear war?

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Speaker 1: You know, the same people that I saw in lax

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Speaker 1: what do you think the correlation is between the Los

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Speaker 1: We go all the way. Now, It's not just them,

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Speaker 1: there are Republicans, including in the Senate and in the

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Speaker 1: But I need someone to explain this to me. Zelenski

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Speaker 1: himself says, if China provides not men, just support weapons,

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Speaker 1: risks world War three. But if we talk about how

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Speaker 1: not risking World War three by helping Ukraine. How does

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Speaker 1: that work? No, again, I think if you are out

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Speaker 1: we are increasingly sort of tiptoeing up to World War

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Speaker 1: three and for what strategic goal? To embarrass Russia. Basically,

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Speaker 1: we have a stalemate in Ukraine right now. They have

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Speaker 1: reached loggerheads. There's basically dug in intrenchments. The idea that

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Speaker 1: still don't know, Buck, and I would be curious for

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Speaker 1: your answer on this. How does this end? Because Ukraine's

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Speaker 1: position behind Zelinski seems to be until every Russian boot

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Speaker 1: to end. So does he think that one total victory

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Speaker 1: And then Vladimir Putin does what? And on the Russian side,

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Speaker 1: it seems quite clear now that you're not going to

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Speaker 1: take Keith right, You're not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: take all of Ukraine. So what does Russian victory look like?

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Speaker 1: In other words, how could we end what is likely

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Speaker 1: to be an incredibly expensive, long running, and devastating to

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Speaker 1: So Buck, if you've got a hundred billion dollars that

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Speaker 1: you've already spent, it seems to me in many ways

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Speaker 1: that your pot committed on the behalf of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Because we've already invested one hundred billion dollars. How does

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Speaker 1: this end? No one seems to have an answer for me,

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Speaker 1: and I would love to hear one that makes some sense. Well,

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Speaker 1: we need to understand that we have taken the side

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Speaker 1: means there's no chance there's no future in which Ukraine

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Speaker 1: meaning that without massive US material and training and everything

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Speaker 1: What does Putin want? We are led to believe that

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Speaker 1: You know, we've also been told that there were efforts

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Speaker 1: The Biden administration stepped in and said no, no, now,

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Speaker 1: we're in it. Now we're gonna we want Putin to

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Speaker 1: leave in humiliation. Now, for Putin to leave in humiliation

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Speaker 1: I think an internal coup which is usually dictators most

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Speaker 1: often fall from internal coup. Usually it's somebody close around them.

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Speaker 1: There's been academic studies on this. Sometimes it's external external

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Speaker 1: but most often it's the inner circle around the authoritarian,

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Speaker 1: has no incentive, Clay, no incentive at all to back

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Speaker 1: suddenly things we're going to totally fall apart and average

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Speaker 1: Americans were going to feel differently because of Roe v.

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Speaker 1: Wade being returned to the states. I don't think it's materialized.

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Speaker 1: I don't think your average person, no matter where you live,

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Speaker 1: feels like this issue is impacting your life, whereas crime

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Speaker 1: is visceral. You feel absolutely on the Row issue. By

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Speaker 1: the well, first of all, I mean, the Republicans had

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Speaker 1: been working for forty years and this was a central

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Speaker 1: overturning Row. There there's no whatever the damage was going

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Speaker 1: to be in twenty twenty the conservative base that they

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Speaker 1: would say, yeah, that's this is We've been fighting for

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Speaker 1: this for forty years, right or longer than forty years, um,

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Speaker 1: So that's one part of it, U fifty years. And

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Speaker 1: the another component of it, though, I think Clay is

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Speaker 1: as people in purple states recognize, look, abortion isn't even

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Speaker 1: isn't illegal at all term at all stages of a

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Speaker 1: pregnancy in Florida, um there, you know. And people have

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Speaker 1: tried to attack ron decantists for this from the right already.

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Speaker 1: But as people recognize that it isn't actually nationwide ban

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Speaker 1: on abortion, which I think Democrats were trying to lead

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Speaker 1: people to believe in the messaging, um, it will be

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Speaker 1: a much less potent issue for them in purple states

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Speaker 1: where independence are going to call you know, are gonna

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Speaker 1: day than it was even in twenty twenty in some

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Speaker 1: of these places. So I think it fades dramatically as

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Speaker 1: an issue, and I think crime, the economy, things that

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Speaker 1: we thought would matter much more in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: will be a much more major player in things in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I think it's hard to create the fear,

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Speaker 1: and I think in twenty twenty two, there was some success.

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Speaker 1: Now if there's referendums, that can impact turnout, but I

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Speaker 1: think in most parts of the country people are not

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Speaker 1: even feeling like their lives were changed in any way

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Speaker 1: by the Dobb's decision. And I think you saw that,

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Speaker 1: for instance, in New York, which may have been an

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Speaker 1: early preview book, because New York, if anything, actually strengthened

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Speaker 1: abortion rights, and there was no play at all in

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Speaker 1: New York over abortion. It was maybe, of all states,

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Speaker 1: the one where crime took center stage more than any other.

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Speaker 1: And you know, that's also a reminder that unborn babies

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Speaker 1: need a voice in this country now more than ever,

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Speaker 1: and they have one with the Preborn Pregnancy Clinics Nation,

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Speaker 1: and why these are clinics welcoming unborn babies and their

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Speaker 1: is twice as likely to choose life for that baby.

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Speaker 1: That's why I talk about Preborn here on the show

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Speaker 1: and share their stories with you. They do all of

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Speaker 1: this with donations from you, the pro life community. Maybe

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Speaker 1: your state has decided to protect life, but there are

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Speaker 1: many other states where that is not the case. How

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Speaker 1: the new Clay and Buck app. Listen to the program live,

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Speaker 1: catch up on any part of the show you might

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Speaker 1: We threw out the phone number wanted to allow you

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Speaker 1: guys to react everything we've been discussing so far. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people out there want to weigh in. Let's

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Speaker 1: head up to Philip in Duluth, Minnesota. Philip, what you

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Speaker 1: got for US military recruiters missed their numbers by thirty

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Speaker 1: five percent last year. You add to that over the

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Speaker 1: next coming years the enlistments that are going to end

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Speaker 1: and are not going to get back in. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be off the charts. We saw massive desertions and

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Speaker 1: potential draftees clean the country in Russia, and those are

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Speaker 1: Russian kids. Now, think about the current pool of eighteen

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Speaker 1: to thirty five year old males that we have in

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Speaker 1: this country raised on faithbook and Xbox. How many of

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Speaker 1: them do you think are going to respond to a draft.

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Speaker 1: And if he thinks he's sending my son into that

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Speaker 1: meat grinder, he's got the wrong guy. Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: for the call. I feel the same way. I've got

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Speaker 1: three boys. Military is having a great deal of difficulty

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Speaker 1: recruiting Buck, and you well know this because this woke

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Speaker 1: era has turned off a lot of people who otherwise

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Speaker 1: will have potentially joined. The vaccine mandates have turned off

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who want to join. Most young

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Speaker 1: guys who are interested in joining the military want to

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Speaker 1: do it because they want to be badasses. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: and when you're selling a kindler, gentler military, that isn't

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Speaker 1: something that has the same appeal. You know, well, multi

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Speaker 1: generations is very common in the military. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people out there listening to us right now are selling

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Speaker 1: their younger kids. Hey, I don't know that the military

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Speaker 1: life is for you. Having said that, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that we would ever have to do a draft, but

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Speaker 1: I think so overall, the morale of the military is

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Speaker 1: incredibly low. I would just a couple of things. One,

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Speaker 1: the people who are going to join the Marine Corps

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Speaker 1: joining the Marine Corps, not the Peace Corps. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean to your point about about a spree

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Speaker 1: to corps and morale and the way that this is affecting.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there are people that serve you know,

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Speaker 1: I served as a civilian analyst, right, so I serve

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Speaker 1: by trying to be smart and effective in the intelligence world.

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Speaker 1: But there are people who are war fighters and they

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Speaker 1: and they want to be there and train and be

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Speaker 1: ready to fight wars. And you don't encourage those people

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Speaker 1: by having a maniacal focus on equity, which is really

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Speaker 1: just identity politics Marxism. And that's that's a major challenge.

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Speaker 1: And I'd also just say on all this stuff about

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Speaker 1: about Biden and the oh, don't worry. They've got this

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Speaker 1: in hand. They go. I remember, I remember being in

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Speaker 1: the rock office of the CIA Clay when Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: big proposal when he was running for president the third,

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Speaker 1: second time, third time you can't remember now, was just

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Speaker 1: split a rock in three pieces. That was his big

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Speaker 1: that's the genius, who's in charge? You're split a rock

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Speaker 1: in three pieces? And then people who actually knew what

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Speaker 1: the hell was going on and had to say to him,

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Speaker 1: you realize that one that's already kind of happening, because

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Speaker 1: there's a civil war underway between Sunni and Shia. And two,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna start carving up countries now, you know,

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Speaker 1: the whole colonial power narrative doesn't help us in the

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Speaker 1: Middle East. Right. So he's an idiot. And so when

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Speaker 1: people tell me, oh, don't worry that, I mean not

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Speaker 1: any He's got dementia, which is obvious from watching him

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Speaker 1: and listening to him. And they're telling us, don't worry,

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Speaker 1: We're just in a proxy war with Russia. I'm sorry, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna worry. When Biden, we talked about past the

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Speaker 1: prime because of Don Biden, Don Biden, because of the

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Speaker 1: comments that Don Lemon made about Nicky Haley. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: has clearly past his prime. And that's not an insult

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Speaker 1: to Joe Biden. I don't know when his prime was.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it was fifty five or sixty. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a particularly high level of prime. But if you go

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Speaker 1: listen to Joe Biden talk twenty years ago and you

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Speaker 1: compare it to today, it's not very similar. He's clearly

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Speaker 1: lost his proverbial fastball, and I don't think he was

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Speaker 1: throwing ninety five miles an hour to begin with. Scott

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Speaker 1: in Saint Paul, Minnesota. What you got for us? Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: my thought on this, and it doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 1: that a lot of other people are talking about it.

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Speaker 1: But if we're providing all kinds of tanks and ammunition

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Speaker 1: and arms to Ukraine, and if they actually can't win

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Speaker 1: this war by themselves, what happens to all of our

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Speaker 1: munitions when Vladimir Putin and Russia advance and take over

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Speaker 1: all of I'm assuming they're going to assume absorb our munitions,

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Speaker 1: and then what if they decide to want to continue

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Speaker 1: to roll on and into It's a great it's a

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Speaker 1: fabulous question. Buck. We basically saw this in Afghanistan right

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Speaker 1: where the Taliban now have tens of billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in theory of American armament and asset, and in theory

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Speaker 1: if Russia did roll through into Ukraine they would take

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Speaker 1: But we spend one hundred billion dollars. A lot of

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Speaker 1: that is in material. Who knows where a lot of

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Speaker 1: it's gone, unfortunately, but there will be a lot of assets.

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Speaker 1: And I'm seeing this from a lot of people. I

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Speaker 1: see this from Look. I appreciate Secretary slash Director Pompeo's

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Speaker 1: service the Trump administration. I think he's a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: I think he's an honest and you know, public servant

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Speaker 1: just tweeted out, we got to stop him in Ukraine

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Speaker 1: because if anyone thinks that they're just gonna that Russia

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Speaker 1: will stop in Ukraine, they're you know, they're missing something

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. He's wrong. Okay, Russia is having more than

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Speaker 1: its handsful in Ukraine. It's going to try to take

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Speaker 1: on all of NATO next In what universe is that

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Speaker 1: going to? So why are they telling us things that

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Speaker 1: are patently untrue? I think there's a mentality here that

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Speaker 1: is at work that really does need to be called out.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a big miss. They are trying

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Speaker 1: to equate Putin with Hitler and the idea of not

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Speaker 1: standing up to him as appeasement. The difference is Hitler

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Speaker 1: had the ability to go into other countries. I asked

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Speaker 1: this question when this first started, Buck, what are we

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Speaker 1: concerned about Russia invading elsewhere? They don't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do it at all. No, there's no chance. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the chance of a Russian invasion of NATO is zero,

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Speaker 1: So why are they using that to justify our support

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine,