WEBVTT - Episode 37: Miles Morales

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right, welcome to nerd if a sent I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host, if you way, sitting across from me is

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<v Speaker 1>not Danny Fernandez, but actually, to the right of me,

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<v Speaker 1>my special guest co host today is a good friend

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<v Speaker 1>of ours. Ed Greer. How are you doing, hey, man?

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<v Speaker 1>If this is really cool to be here. I've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to you guys for a while, and you know, no

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<v Speaker 1>one can replace Danny. I'm just gonna occupy this space

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<v Speaker 1>and time. I like how you entered this as if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be a step parent. Like, look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not here to replace Danny. I'm just you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just here for your dad. I just don't want instant

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<v Speaker 1>hate that it's not Danny, alright, and sitting across from

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<v Speaker 1>me this time is a good friend as well. Aaron Powell,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing. I'm good, man, doing good good.

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<v Speaker 1>You have done the most nerdy Prince crossovers I think

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<v Speaker 1>that I've seen ever. Dude, it's it's my thing now.

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<v Speaker 1>People will not not let me dress up as prints,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I kind of have to. Even when I

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<v Speaker 1>try to do other stuff, they say, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? Prince again? I'm like, I guess I grew

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<v Speaker 1>out this long beard so I would stop doing princes. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>now we're good, you can still do prints. Yeah, prince

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<v Speaker 1>had a beard at one point. I'm like, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>not the costume that I do. We don't care. Just

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<v Speaker 1>do princes and dance and that's all it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm six I'm the tallest prince ever. I'm six one.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I actually have like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>lift on the boots that I wear, so like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like this humongous princes walking around in a giant

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<v Speaker 1>purple coat. You've probably seen me if you've been to

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<v Speaker 1>a comic convention. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna drop where

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<v Speaker 1>you can find both of y'all just at the same time. So, Edgarer,

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<v Speaker 1>you you do the screen shunkys, you know you you

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<v Speaker 1>you hop on the screen junkies, and you have your

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<v Speaker 1>own podcast as well. You want to tell us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about that. Um. Yeah, it's called nerd Goat Podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had you and Danny on, which are very

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<v Speaker 1>popular episodes. Dodka, but it's just a dive into people's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite fictional character, and that can be you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>done Tarzan, We've done Conan, We've done characters from video games,

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man, the Daredevil's this isn't that we've done Elaine

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<v Speaker 1>Benness from Seinfeld Coat, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not just you know, people who swing on

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<v Speaker 1>webs and bunch people do walls. It's it's certainly whatever

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<v Speaker 1>fictional character. And we find that when people come on

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<v Speaker 1>and they really get a chance to just go nuts,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, your significant other always here's your

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<v Speaker 1>dumb screed, whatever you like. It's it's our guest opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>funny people like yourselves. And I usually I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I want to invite you on it. Right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>will definitely be no, no podcast. I'm shutting it down.

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<v Speaker 1>But honestly said Bargo. But anyway, yeah, so that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. Me and my man Ron Swallow, We

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<v Speaker 1>just we just let somebody vent on their favorite fictional

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<v Speaker 1>character and we kind of James lifting it up. Yeah, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a great concept and it was really

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<v Speaker 1>fun to be on. Uh, you know, Elaine isn't as

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<v Speaker 1>weird to me as someone whose favorite character is Tarzan.

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<v Speaker 1>Little Tarzan had stands like that. That was wow. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And and sometimes We'll have people who will have like

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<v Speaker 1>they won't have this giant comprehensive like, oh I know

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<v Speaker 1>everything about this character, but they're like a certain iteration

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<v Speaker 1>of them, Like she liked the Johnny White Miller Swimming

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<v Speaker 1>Tarzan movies. Yeah, you know, from back in the days,

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<v Speaker 1>because the best back when she was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her grandpa wau show him to her and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get to see why people connected with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these characters. Rather than just nerd out and standing

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<v Speaker 1>out about the character and doing some roll call of

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<v Speaker 1>their feats or whatever, it ends up being a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive into the personality of the person, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>think the special part about the show. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>you are qualify your resume stacks up to be a

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<v Speaker 1>co host and I'm gonna turnover to Aaron. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have quite a few podcasts. I have to, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to, and I guess on a lot of others.

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<v Speaker 1>Um I did a couple of guest spots this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got a couple more later on my podcast, though, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them are. Aaron explains the universe, which

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<v Speaker 1>um it started off with just me giving dating advice

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<v Speaker 1>and like talking about like dating mishaps I've had in

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<v Speaker 1>the past two Now I talk more about like social issues, um,

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<v Speaker 1>things going on in the world just and I'll ramble

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of other stuff too, but I always

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<v Speaker 1>bring it back to Daton somehow. My other podcast, which

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<v Speaker 1>is on hiatus until I find a different format for

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do video for It's called Stupid Movie Tuesday. Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Stupid Movie Tuesday is when I watched a movie either

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<v Speaker 1>new or old, and I give my honest review on it.

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<v Speaker 1>The episode that a lot of people like is my

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<v Speaker 1>Suicide Squad one, And then the one people like because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so angry about it was, um, Gods of Egypt.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even make it through the whole movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>watched that one live as I did it, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to hear there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>cursing on this podcast that I'm on right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to hear somebody curse and find the

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<v Speaker 1>Stupid Movie Tuesday where I'm doing Gods of Egypt, you

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<v Speaker 1>will see me at my absolute angriest. It's like driving

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<v Speaker 1>on the four oh five angry. That's a regional reference

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<v Speaker 1>is not gonna get but it's whatever freeway is in

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<v Speaker 1>your town that you hate. That's what it was. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like those Irish Egyptian gods. No, not at all

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<v Speaker 1>because like that like my family like from Egypt. So

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<v Speaker 1>like when I watched it, I was like, wait a minute, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait wait, this is this is this is not right

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<v Speaker 1>at all, And like just just on a mythology standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is terrible. Jamie Lanister, the actor who

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<v Speaker 1>plays him, because I can't pronounce his actual name, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he played Horace in that movie. Yeah, Jamie, Jamie Lanister

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<v Speaker 1>playing don't don't, don't spoil it, let him let him

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<v Speaker 1>go see that, will see it, go see it. Sigourney

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<v Speaker 1>Weavers in it for some reason. Whatever Sigourney Weavers might

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<v Speaker 1>forever cross, she can be in whatever movie. She can

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<v Speaker 1>be in Black Panther. Honestly, there was there was an

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<v Speaker 1>actor in Black Panther that was in Gods of Egypt two.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was ban he was taught. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Vin Chadwick Boseman head basically was like, I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to pay rent that mother book Black Panther yet

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<v Speaker 1>al right, Well, speaking of Black Panther and black superheroes

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<v Speaker 1>segue of the year. Mons Morales is who we're here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. Morales is fun. We're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 1>the deeds and the in the beginning of it, but

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<v Speaker 1>Mons Morales is cool in the sense that I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when he came on the scene. I remember, I think

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in this room remembers it, and I remember when

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<v Speaker 1>he first came in being unimpressed, uh not by the

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<v Speaker 1>character itself, but on the well for for the nonversed fans,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll like walk it back and explain everything I'm mentioning,

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<v Speaker 1>but the fact that he existed in the Ultimate Universe

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<v Speaker 1>and not six one six, so that I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all doing it, but you're not really doing it and

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<v Speaker 1>what that means for those who might not know the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between the six one six universe and the Ultimate Universe,

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel established that there's multiple universes and the six one

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<v Speaker 1>six universe is basically the main canon everything that dates

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<v Speaker 1>back to Marvel that you basically know and love, and

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate universes where all the Ultimate comics were from Ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man, l X Men, Ultimate Avengers, and they used

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<v Speaker 1>to be separate. There was a weird moment of time

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<v Speaker 1>when all the drawings in the Ultimate comics looked like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who ended up being cast in the movies. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Wolverine looked like Hugh jackman Um Samuel Jackson got the

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<v Speaker 1>job to because them like that. They like the Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Fury and the Latimate Universe came first, didn't didn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>work out for Eminem and wanted no, not at all,

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<v Speaker 1>and and basically the thing that but you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I liked about the Ultimate Universe in

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<v Speaker 1>the first few years was they did seem to take

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<v Speaker 1>it like just that tiny They turned up the realism

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<v Speaker 1>dial just a little bit, and then they leaned on

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<v Speaker 1>that mug and it went then exactly. The Ultimate Universe

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<v Speaker 1>was great when it first started. By the time Miles

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<v Speaker 1>was getting into it, though, it was not falling off

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<v Speaker 1>because like when Miles got into it, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think we'll get into this later. At some point Captain

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<v Speaker 1>America took over America. Uh, they split it up. At

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<v Speaker 1>some point, Peter Parker was dead. The X Men, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just off the rails. It was like X Men

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<v Speaker 1>three bad when it came back to Like the X Men. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pause and because I like to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>make it a little inclusive for the nerds who might

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<v Speaker 1>not have that deep knowledge. The reason I said didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out for Eminem is if you read the original

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted comic, he's drawn like Eminem because they drew the

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<v Speaker 1>comic in the way that they drew it with how

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<v Speaker 1>they would want it to be cast in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>They drew it anticipate in the movie coming out, so

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<v Speaker 1>they drew it to have certain people get cast for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you read The Boys, Um, there's a character

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<v Speaker 1>who looks exactly like Simon Peg in there. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wrote the foreword to like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>training paperbacks. Yeah. And if unfortunately it's he's too old

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<v Speaker 1>to play it now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I can whatever, it's it's past and they already

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<v Speaker 1>cast him. But I auditioned for Mother's Milk. Yeah, I was, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I request that one, but I'm too young, like

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<v Speaker 1>Mother's Milk is an older character. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want, like I'm getting to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've I've been taking some swing out a few superheroes,

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<v Speaker 1>and to me, I'm just happy that I'm taking them swing.

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<v Speaker 1>Most recent notable audition that I did was for Ronnie

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<v Speaker 1>de Vo for the New Audition movie. Because I'm tall,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm light skinning, I can dance. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do Ronnie the Vote, And obviously I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it, but there was a part of me that

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, how did that go? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, the movie can the movies out?

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<v Speaker 1>The movies out already? That was funny when you do

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<v Speaker 1>tell people you auditioned for something that's out there, like

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<v Speaker 1>how well it well, they cast me as an orc,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. But it's funny that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the movie connection because one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things about the Ultimates and specific was that was, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really look back on it, that was them

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<v Speaker 1>giving Mark Miller a chance to shape what was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be their cinematic universe. They're They're iron Man is

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<v Speaker 1>very much like the like the Tony start that we

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<v Speaker 1>got in the movies. They're They're Keptain America is a

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<v Speaker 1>little hyped up. He can like throw a volts wag

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<v Speaker 1>instead of just chomp out of the way of one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. The six one says kept

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<v Speaker 1>America to jump out the way the ultimate line, He'll

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<v Speaker 1>kick ahole of your fucialize. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He don't care they made Wolverine a little taller. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to do a lot of stuff, so but

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<v Speaker 1>basically then they started like even they had things like

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<v Speaker 1>Captain America when he first woke up and he saw

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Fury, he was like, ain't no high ranking back

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<v Speaker 1>right now? That was that That made me in a

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<v Speaker 1>strange way. It made me feel good when he did that,

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<v Speaker 1>because Captain America six won six. His real superpower is

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<v Speaker 1>not being completely racist as a product of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the forties, you know, like think about it. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>racist at all, And like a little bit of that

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<v Speaker 1>bothers me a little bit because because like you hear first,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron really wants to No, no, I don't want him

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<v Speaker 1>to be I just want him to be more realistic

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<v Speaker 1>in the case, like he doesn't have to be like

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<v Speaker 1>like deviate ly likely racist, but like just subtle stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, there's a woman on the team, or like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a negro, what's this? That was always

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<v Speaker 1>my beef with Captain America when they was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>this dude's ill as mill Terry leader. So when he

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<v Speaker 1>comes to let's say or two thousand, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the dude who knows who's up on it. He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to get some of those Sherman tanks. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't even use Sherman tanks. We have evolved. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to get some of those M fourteen rifles, like exactly

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<v Speaker 1>fragmentation grenade. Well, we don't even pilot our whole stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So towards the end of the ultimate line that when

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<v Speaker 1>they turned the violence up to eleven and they started

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<v Speaker 1>killing off stuff. I do believe though, for a segment

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<v Speaker 1>of people. I think that Myles Royllis did kind of

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<v Speaker 1>resuscitate for certain people because I came and read the

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<v Speaker 1>whole run way afterwards, and I was kind of moved

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<v Speaker 1>at how they had kind of set him up with

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<v Speaker 1>his own uncle Ben's story of him thinking he could

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<v Speaker 1>have helped. He gets his powers well before Spider Man

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<v Speaker 1>is dead, but he chooses to not use them because

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't think that life is for him, and his

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<v Speaker 1>dad and stuff pressure him to be like, yeah, had

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<v Speaker 1>some issues like because like his dad went to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>His uncle who's very close to jail, also and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, what if being a criminal is like

0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.520
<v Speaker 1>genetic or something like that. He had those he was

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<v Speaker 1>just a young kid. He got his powers. Peter got

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<v Speaker 1>his powers at fifteen. That's always been whatever universe, He's

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<v Speaker 1>always fifteen. Miles got his at thirteen, which is it

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<v Speaker 1>really makes it makes those two years make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was always like, well, you know, my dad

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<v Speaker 1>and my uncle like idolized them and stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but they went down this wrong path. My father shaped up,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, you know his uncle, his uncle still

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a criminal. He's the Prowler, Prowler of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Universe. It was a high tech thief he steal,

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<v Speaker 1>which is how Miles because his powers. The Prowler is

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<v Speaker 1>stealing some stuff from Oscorp. One of the Spiders, number

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<v Speaker 1>forty two for Jackie Robinson. I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so honestly, I honestly, I will say they

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<v Speaker 1>have made like nice little references like that, Like, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I bring this up a lot. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>black Panther runs the most Dangerous Man Alive. When he

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<v Speaker 1>is in Hell's kitchen, he's there as Mr Okonko, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the one of the main characters and Things Fall

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<v Speaker 1>Apart a Nigerian uh novel, which is really great. Um

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<v Speaker 1>I read that in high school. Yeah, I did too.

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<v Speaker 1>I only got aware of it when out the roots

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<v Speaker 1>to the album. You're like, all right, cool, I did

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<v Speaker 1>it too because I had this English assignment which like

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<v Speaker 1>looking like I was like, oh, that was a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>tight one. It was like you they wanted you to

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<v Speaker 1>read a story written by author from your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>heritage nationality, So Ginua Chebe is Nigerian Ebo And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, no brainer. And my dad was so hyped,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like the first time I've seen him

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<v Speaker 1>like real excited about something I was doing. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the next day you told him you'd be a stand

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<v Speaker 1>up comedian and he was. And then I look at

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<v Speaker 1>this jack of buzz tattoo, right yeah, yeah, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>like throw away like the lab code he had things. Doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>just who frumpled it up? Like how Spider Man be

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<v Speaker 1>leave in his uniform? He walked away in the rain, Doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>No more. So, let's jump into this deep dive real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>just to get the first bit out of the way

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<v Speaker 1>before the break. Miles Moronles is a fictional comic book Superhero,

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<v Speaker 1>appearing in publications by the American publisher Marvel Comics. We

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<v Speaker 1>all know Marvel, as Crystal calls them, and it actually

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<v Speaker 1>cracks me up. I love that she's calls him Marvel character. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as one of the characters known as Spider Man. The

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<v Speaker 1>character was created in two thousand eleven by writer Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bindis and artist Sarah Picelli, with Bndess and marvel

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<v Speaker 1>then editor in chief Axel Alonzo, drawing inspiration from both

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<v Speaker 1>then U S President Barack Obama and American actor rapper

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Glover. I feel like they add Barack just to

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<v Speaker 1>make it sound like it has more more. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>like it Donald Glover because like Barack was president, was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and like when the mixing and and and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>idea was bubbling, it was Donald Glover. Like, it's funny

0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.320
<v Speaker 1>that they add Barack there. I think it's kind of corny.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was after a It really at that time

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<v Speaker 1>everything black and positive had something to do with BARACKO.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was oh a year, so I'd say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it really was Donald Glover. And you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why, he's like, why do they sound so sure?

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<v Speaker 1>The fuse was lit after Donald Glover in an interview,

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<v Speaker 1>said how one time he mentioned that he would love

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<v Speaker 1>to play Spider Man and he just was targeted by

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<v Speaker 1>racist trolls. And you can tell it was two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>eleven because this was such a new idea to be

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<v Speaker 1>rais who would think that people in two thousand eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and this day and age would be racist on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>But but like it was that was the big thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like he was like every day, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I went on line and I would just

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, it's like you'd never be Spider Man. Inward,

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<v Speaker 1>it is that. And he said that that didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to him. What really got to him was one guy

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<v Speaker 1>who like tried to come at him and was like, hey, look, Donald,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that you know there would never be a

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<v Speaker 1>black Spider Man is because you know, there aren't any

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<v Speaker 1>black kids like that. And he was like that got

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<v Speaker 1>to him more than just the blatant racism, because like,

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<v Speaker 1>someone really doesn't believe that there could be a kid

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<v Speaker 1>in New York who doesn't have a father and had

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<v Speaker 1>an uncle die, who is really in a science like

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I oftentimes repeat that with on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a black character. Like you'd be like, that's ah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's uh Patrece Parker. Right, if you told me

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<v Speaker 1>that and told me about if you pitched that character

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<v Speaker 1>with my eyes closed, you said no, father, like sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying, okay, yeah, I mean, well, it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>because it is. Not to harp on this fact, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a common star type. But lots of times when

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<v Speaker 1>stereotypes like that work in the favor of like lending

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<v Speaker 1>a new character, people like oh no that no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's it's used to put us down. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh no, this Peter Parker kid, actually you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that is like something right we can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of relate to. It's like, no, no, that's ours. But overall, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the way that they introduced smiles, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they try really hard to give him parents, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, which I really liked, and get him

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<v Speaker 1>into like charter school and stuff like that, because that

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<v Speaker 1>weighs heavily on him. Like you're thirteen years old, you

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<v Speaker 1>got bit by a day in Spider and you got

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<v Speaker 1>all these weird powers and all the stuff, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to keep your head down and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get kicked out of the school. I literally

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<v Speaker 1>on some real stuff. I cried when I read the

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<v Speaker 1>issue where he gets into the school and his parents

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<v Speaker 1>are super happy that he's going to actually have a

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<v Speaker 1>future and stuff. He's not gonna have to go down

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<v Speaker 1>the path his dad, David, is gonna have to do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever his mom was doing, because this mom seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be accomplished woman. But the bottom line as it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>for women of color a lot of the time. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they have thrown travails, but a dude of color looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a lion in the office of a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So like his brother, and

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<v Speaker 1>they find out later his dad went to shield and

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<v Speaker 1>did all this stuff after his criminal pass. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like he's hiding a dope secret agent thing from his kid,

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<v Speaker 1>not just any sort of criminality. He's hiding it in

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<v Speaker 1>the form of like, oh, I'll just make you I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just let you think I used to be a criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually I used to save the world, like every Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>But he doesn't want it. He wants a kid to

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<v Speaker 1>be a regular kid. It's something that Peter Parker never

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<v Speaker 1>really got you know, he actually, like Peter just went

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<v Speaker 1>head on and being a superhero and stuff. But Myles

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<v Speaker 1>is like, look, I had these pots for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years. I kind of just want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>regular kid, because it's like, I've seen how dangerous being

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<v Speaker 1>a superhero can be, with like everything going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ultimate you know, that's the crux of the Spider

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<v Speaker 1>Man mythos, And I feel like that's why it's so

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<v Speaker 1>relatable to a lot of nerds and want so many

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<v Speaker 1>people because everyone can think of being overwhelmed in school

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<v Speaker 1>trying to balance everything, so to imagine also having superpowers,

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<v Speaker 1>as cool as that be, you can plainly see that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that a kid. Who are you going to relate

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<v Speaker 1>more to the billionaire who used his billions to make

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<v Speaker 1>a dope suit, the guy who got blasted with science

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<v Speaker 1>and turns into her East, or this kid who's just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make it all work. Like that's that's just

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<v Speaker 1>hands down one of the reasons I can relate to

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<v Speaker 1>the kid who can make it all work, because those

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<v Speaker 1>other two things would get me to die. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no bomb that's gonna explode around you and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get magic at all, You're gonna die. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of your head and you're like, I hope, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I still want my mutant powers to manifest, Like to

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<v Speaker 1>this day, to just take out the radiation smock, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make a fist and just want cloths to

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<v Speaker 1>pop out and stuff like that. I mean, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of why I love my hero academia so much, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's my biggest fears that powers do exist and I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have them, just like oh you're part yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I honestly know that they exist because Tony Robbins

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<v Speaker 1>has a career and you say bolt like in the

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<v Speaker 1>same we're living in the world where there's a dude

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<v Speaker 1>who's faster than everybody. Nobody's checking his meta gene. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just way fast and everybody always just fast enough to win.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dash, you know what I'm saying That that's like

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<v Speaker 1>some real He pulls back and like and like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to disk Tony Robbins, but that dude sucks

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole stylist chump and he's trait bawling because

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<v Speaker 1>he has stadiums and people come hear him be stupid

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<v Speaker 1>and then they went across some coals and they give

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<v Speaker 1>him money. That's powers. I don't care what do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's powers. That's my favorite sequence of words, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to dis him, but he sucks. Right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into when Males Morales first appeared and get

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing started right after these mess welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to you still got Ed Greer and Aaron out here,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna talk about how Miles Morales first appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in Ultimate Fallout number four, which was dated August two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand eleven, which followed the death of Peter Park. As

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<v Speaker 1>you heard of us say earlier. So as an Africa

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<v Speaker 1>you know teenager Miles Uh is the second Spider Man

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<v Speaker 1>to appear in Ultimate Marvel obviously, the first being Pizza

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<v Speaker 1>and Uh and Uh in the Ultimate Universe up until

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the mainstream Marvel Universe aka six, when

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<v Speaker 1>six kind of smushed him in there. And we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into that later. Although Miles is featured in the Ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>Comics Spider Man comic book series, he's not the lead

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ultimate Spider Man TV series, which debuted in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve because Disney XD was scared Uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're see in mad Racks because he is the

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<v Speaker 1>main cast in this feature film Spider Man into the

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Verse, which have y'all seen it yet? Not yet?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't either, not yet. We're behind the embargo, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>we yeah, we're behind embargo. All we got nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, but then y'all send it. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to see it

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<v Speaker 1>on the eleven. I'm yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to a press Greeny I think the same day. Actually, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>so I might see you there. And I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make it clear I I haven't seen it yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you are a person who knows all about

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Morales and you watch the trailer, you see that

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<v Speaker 1>they do a lot of things that are are canonized,

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<v Speaker 1>and but they do it fresh in a quick way.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh in there. So I'm looking forward to seeing, like

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<v Speaker 1>the abbreviation of it. But I just wanted to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on when he did come out, and or rather when

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the Ultimate Marvel Ultimate Comics line with Peter Parker came out.

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.080
<v Speaker 1>One of the things they did to try to differentiate

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>himself was to make him like have long hair and

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>be a little more emo. But over the course of time,

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 1>it was to me always to me, it was just

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 1>they were just doing the stories over again and just's

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>refitting his villains with different sort of looking stuff and

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. I think they really committed to the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ultimate line on a certain level. Besides, besides

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Ultimate um the Ultimates, Ultimates is different than Avengers, and

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Spider Man with Miles as the lead is different

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>than Ultimate Spider Man or Regular Spider Man. Those two

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>books are the most different and ultimate of them, which

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>is why Ultimate is the basically Marvel so Sema cinematic

0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:20.400
<v Speaker 1>universe and Spider Man is getting his own movie. They

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>were the things that survived the Ultimate x Man did not.

0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>They started, it started off good and then it just

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>went way off the rails. Ultimate x Man was just

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like and I also think that towards the end Ultimates

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>went off the rails because Jeff Lobe was, Yeah, he

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>was going through some stuff and uh it appeared on

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the page. Well, he took his his his life problems

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 1>were definitely showing a phone the page and like it was,

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.399
<v Speaker 1>it was, it was. It was a weird thing because

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>like I'm a huge comic book fan and I'm a

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>completist too, so that makes it worse. So like I

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of have to get this thing, and I just

0:24:57.840 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I gave up towards the end of it. I was

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>just I can't do that. I could, I could mess

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 1>with they had. They had a mute black panther with

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>like Adam claws coming out of the back of his hands,

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>but they're a real short and was like bulls eye

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 1>at this point, yeah, which almost I kind of dug

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 1>that for a second, like he was flicking his fingernails

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and people they killed his fail blady flicked his fingernails

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>at him. I was like, that's hardcore. But one of

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.439
<v Speaker 1>the things that was really dope about Miles was like

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>they let him have his Uncle Ben moment. His Uncle

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Ben moment was Spider Man dying at the hands of

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>the Green Goblin and cops, which was very convoluted, like

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 1>he got beat up by the Green Goblin and then

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.239
<v Speaker 1>got shot by some cops because it's too slow from

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>getting beat up like old man. Y'all, y'all chose the

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.959
<v Speaker 1>death of the wrong Spider Man. I guess we're just

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 1>getting too deep. But yeah, so the bottom line is

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>like that one him having a feeling that if I

0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>had a bean Spidery or sought out some training or

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>did some Spider stuff instead of being scared little bit,

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I could have helped Spider Man specifically, And so he

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of that's his uncle Ben, and I think that

0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 1>makes the comics dope for that section, you know. And

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>then he has some adventures. You got little powers like

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 1>the camouflage power. Yeah, last power. Did they read that

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>or does he know that's no, he still has them

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and they don't use it as much depending on you know,

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>it feels like that's kind of like the iron fist. Yeah,

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, even more you whip it out the less

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of like it's kind of like Gambits powers. Like

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Gambit has, he doesn't always just charge things up with

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 1>energy and make him explode. He has a power that's

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>like called hypnotic charm, where if you don't know about it,

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 1>he can just basically persuade you to do anything. But

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.200
<v Speaker 1>because he's so charming, depending on the writer, no one

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>mentions it. You know what, I must be well, in

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>more ways than one, I'm job of the Hut because

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>in mind, tricks don't work on me. I ain't never

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>been a gambit. Mr and Mrs X is a really

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>good book right now. I bet it is. It's because

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Rogue is cool and she can save that fool like Beyonce,

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>but like jay Z is cool. But you know what

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, It's just like I know, I used to

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>be a big gambit stand and then he was bad

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and Marvel versus Capcom and I'd let him go. Like

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, if you can't be good

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:07.959
<v Speaker 1>in fighting games, I can't deal with you, because you know,

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Iron Man is out here bodying people on the regular.

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so it was like, um so the we

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>basically discussed how they kind of swapped out the Spider Man.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>It was it was a great story arc that happened,

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 1>and that was kind of what was cool about The

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Uh, even though I kind of gave it flak

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>for not like really quote unquote really doing it, Ultimates

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>was a space where you could try new things, and

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it kind of was like the n x

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.399
<v Speaker 1>T for all my wrestling heads for because the stuff

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that worked it seemed like they kind of trickled over,

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>like uh, six one six ended up with a black

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Nick Fury, But I think that had more to do

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>with the Ultimate Nick Fury launching into the Cinematic Universe

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and then this new thing which I will probably ran

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>about in the end where they want to homogenize the

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>comic book universe with the cinematic universe. But how they

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>introduced the Black Nick Fury in six one six dumb, dumb,

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>He's he's He's Nick. It literally is the Kurt Angle.

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 1>What's his face? Yeah, it's basically my black son. What

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you thought of k I thought a strom Thurman. Yeah,

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, let's pull it back. We're getting too nervous,

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like some people like, wait, wait, that's

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a whole another part. They have to look up actual

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>human history from this comic book stuff. That's a wind universe. Um.

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah so but but Myles moralest what they did

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>in the in the Ultimate Universe. Um, And I don't

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>know if we do. We have to keep it to

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the end, because I do want to talk about how

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:49.239
<v Speaker 1>not about the Cinematic Universe homogenation, but like how they

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>try to fold him from his adventures from the Ultimate

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Line into the Marvel universe. It's basically as stupid as

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that Nick Fury thing. It was basically as stupid. It

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>was a press move because like that Marvel has events.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>If you don't know that Marvel has events, they have

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, especially recently. These are just big

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>comic book moments where they have like big crossovers and

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>they at the end of them there's consequences and then

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>there's like things that happened that affect the rest of

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the universe. There was it was called Secret Wars. Was it?

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Secret Wars? Is basically, hey Miles, we're bringing you over here. Yeah,

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>basically you know what I called it. I called it

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>like you know how like, Okay, there's maybe some nerds

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>don't like sports ball, but when a team just decides

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>to get crappy for a long time so they can

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>lose a bunch and go hire in the drafting, that's

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly what they tanked the universe so they can trust

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the process and draft. Because the storyline was basically, the

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>different earths in the Marvel universe, we're colliding with each other,

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>and then they all collected. They all collided, and then

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>there was like one Earth with every universe on it,

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and Dr Doom was the ruler. He was the god yeah, yeah,

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the human torch was the sun. It was weird. This

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>is this is how they simultaneously got rid of the

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Fantastic Four and brought Miles Morales over to the main universe.

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>It was a long and convoluted storyline and it made

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>no sense. It was it was like it was funny

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>because people didn't know what to make of it. It It

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't seem like people liked it, but people were like,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I know what their game is, so we're

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>rocking with it. And here's some important things I want

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to note, because you know, when we talk comics, i'd

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>like to link up the cinematic stuff with significance that

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you might have missed if this is your first time

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>hearing it or seeing it. So first off and foremost,

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to, like, you know, highlight the exact thing

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that that been this kind of credits Donald Glover

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>four and it was actually seeing him um in community.

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>In the episode Anthropology one on one, Donald Glover is

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>wearing Spiderman pajamas and it was a reference to the

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>event we were seeing and Bundi said that he looked

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>fantastic and he saw him in the costume and thought

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I would like to read that book and he made it.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>So there's some stuff this is done that I've been like,

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>not really messical, but him doing that, him like actively,

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>he like bund This was at the point he was

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>like that dude at marveled that he was like, oh,

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man's black nap. He took that kind of power.

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, well I'm gonna make a black

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man and he was like all right, cool. Yeah.

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>And him using his power for that is why like

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, all right, you're good in my book. You

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>can I definitely agree with that. But and one thing

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to push back in any way. But

0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>it was also the perfect storm. That's the perfect door

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>because that that ultimate Peter Peter Parker was getting pretty whacketty.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>They were doing the Clones saga, and that's what I'm saying, right,

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>so they wouldn't They went deep into the road the

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 1>decks of wackness, and they was trying to find some

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>some new stuff to flip and bounce and it wasn't cool.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>So then so it was a perfect like this book's failing.

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>If we do this Black Spider Man, everybody hates it.

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>So what you remember Marvel used to launch a line

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>every minute that and and for some reason still every

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>time we touch on this, someone that got beat at me.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Every last time I ranted about this on the house

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff where it's network it was on. Was like, guys,

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>but they were launching so many things, but nobody was

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>reading that Black Panther run. And then they canceled it

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>on your boy, I like straight ripped it out your boys.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Pull is still mad about that forever. Don't act like

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you like Black Panther now, y'all, because like Black Panther

0:32:26.440 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>has some great books. He has some great but like

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>because nobody was reading it. Well, there was an oversaturation

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>of comics at the time. There was, like I think,

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>especially at this time that we're talking about about five

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Wolverine comics. You had so many Blades in the stands.

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>You had you had the Wolverine, you had Wolverine. In

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the next twenty three, you had Dock in everyone remember

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in Actually I'm like Decking more than I was rocking

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>with Deck. Like I could see that now between X

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty three and deck and I like X twenty three

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>because her storyline is more rich. They skipped a big

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>portion of her history from like the n y X series,

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>which is basically her origin story. And then she had

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>another comment from that deck and I liked. And then

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>they put him on the Dark Avengers and made him

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Dark Wolverine, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, Well, it's

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>just funny to me. It's funny to me how often

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Marvel makes some weird legacy version of their characters, because

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, DC really started that stuff.

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:28.239
<v Speaker 1>DC started Booby Doole and Flash d C has had

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>legacy characters all the way back to the fifties. THU,

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>because like Flash, Barry Allen is a legacy character, he's

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the second Flash. Marvel is just now getting into legacy characters.

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And even still they still don't know how to nurture

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>those characters, right because they're bringing Wolverine back, you know.

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>And let me go up on a tiny ramp. Hot clause,

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>hot clause, You got hot, Your clause could cut through anything.

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>But now the hot not a hot, not a hot. Yeah,

0:33:55.800 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the stupidest thing I've never I've never not lot

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>of comic book based on the cover, but once I

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>saw those yellow claws come out of it, I'm not

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>buying that. Basically for those once, I feel like we're

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be doing a lot of sidebars because there's

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 1>just three thick nerds in here. In here man, but

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>dock In is Wolverine son. You can nowhere by his

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>third clause that comes from then it made no sense

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that that was like very just like in a bad spot,

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>like like' just how does this work? Like I get

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>XE hear third clause in her foot, I get that,

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>but deck and having his right underneath his wrist, I'm like, no,

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that's just somebody thought that look cool. And what's up

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:45.720
<v Speaker 1>of comic books and everything coming out your wrist? Yeah,

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>things to come out. And if you didn't know, X

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 1>three is basically a Clona Wolverine and adoptive daughter and

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>they kind of exist. It was when it was classes

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and they had so many actually, and I hate and

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I hate being a guy to say actually actually he

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't say, so, it's not it's X one of these

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>recognized as his sister, Sir clowns, that's his sister. Okay, Yeah,

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>just that paternal relationship starts to show because they're he's

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 1>older than her, but right, he's a he's an older brother.

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 1>But that's there. They're more siblings than anything. Okay, Yeah,

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and and this was like Sun's season as well, because

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>just to take a hop to another franchise, this is

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>right around when Damian started popping up in DC and

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:34.879
<v Speaker 1>Damien had a rough go at it because he was bad.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Then it was kind of good. And then they killed him. Yeah,

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>once people started liking him, they Jason totted him and

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>just which is so weird because like, honestly, I know

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to talking about Miles, but that run was

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.720
<v Speaker 1>interesting to me because they had uh, Dick Grayson playing

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Batman because Batman was lost in space and time and

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Dick Grayson had to watch Damian every second of every

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>day because damianould literally chops about his head off. Dudes.

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 1>He was just was like, it was like good cop back.

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>It was the little kid. It was the perfect wrench

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>to throw in the Batman's storyline because Batman also was

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>getting still because they had twenty Batman's. They had Black Batman,

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:14.399
<v Speaker 1>they had bat Girl, they had they had Batman Incorporated

0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>with Bruce Wayne wanted a Batman in every country. They

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 1>had Batman react World. I know it's been known that

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Batman has a big ego, but when you want one

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>of you and every every let's dude think he McDonald

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>basically he franchise Batman. He was just like, all right,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a Starbucks Batman, every blood two for

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>five batter ranks coming around, you know, like mcribs, Like

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>DC was really trying to sell toys with that because

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>everybody had a different suit, right, all right, so let's

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>really we really well, let's come back to that. So

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>let's come back to Miles, and let's just go straight

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to the basics. So we explained kind of the origins

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.720
<v Speaker 1>of that and kind of why business Mate has happened.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's talk about Miles. Miles Morales. He was

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 1>born and raised in Brooklyn, New York City, and he

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>was the thirteen year old son of an African American

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>father and a Puerto Rican mother. That was something that

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>was cool too, because I like that they're like, we're

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>not just gonna make him just the black kid. We're

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna make a man for Latino, get a little you know,

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>killed two representation bird stuff. Also because Cassada and actually

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Alonso is Cuban, I think is some sort of uh

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Latin X person. So the bottom line is they could

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>see that. But then you know, the black thing was

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to make him notably different because they've already had Miguel

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>O'Hara from he was the first Latino Spider Man, Miguel O'Hara.

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>And also, this is just something that I saw. It

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>was just like the diversity of New York because having

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a black dad and a Puerto Rican mom is a

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>very common thing like cities like New York, Chicago and stuff.

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, all right, if they're going to be in

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>New York, let's let's make it as New York as possible,

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. And speaking of which, as far as we

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about the cinemaon accident, we even talked about this.

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>They do gang a bunch of stuff from Miles, this

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 1>interpretation of being Spider Man and went in Homecoming like

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>his big old friend that I thought. I was like, oh,

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>we get Miles in this and Donald Glover actually plays Probler,

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>which is a nice perfect just bawled up No at Miles.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty beautiful. Yeah, because you've got the person who

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>inspired Miles playing Miles is you know, and we know

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that there is a Miles in the Marvel cinematic universe

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>because when he webs him up. He's like, hey, man,

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't want those kinds of weapons in my town.

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I got a nephew here. Yeah, so I'm like, boom,

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>we got him. Yeah, they set it up. And I

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>mean and that you know, the back we even we're

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>doing with the Secret World Hubbub is we're already creating

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a world where Peter Parker and Miles can co exist.

0:38:46.560 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>So who knows what's going to happen in two in

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the PS four game, we got Miles already in there. Yeah,

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>absolutely so uh and and so getting to everybody getting cinematic, Uh,

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the inner the Spider Verse has a version of the

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>story that we know from the Ultimate line, but also

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>there and and and putting in the Spider Verse which

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the Spider get an event, you know, and and uhasically

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>basically these dudes, this guy Moreland and these dudes from

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>another dimension that the Inheritors. Yeah, the Inheritors eat Spider people.

0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 1>So if you have Spider powers or your Spider totem

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 1>in any reality, they will come after you. So there's

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 1>a Spider Man who is a Captain Universe. He's got

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>to have Captain Universe powers, and he's basically all powerful. Uh,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>there's a Spider Ham, Spider Han, Spider Gwyn, Sydney Moon.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>It's like they have different Spider Man for different unions,

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Like Uncle Ben is a Spider Man, there's anime Spider Man.

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>There's like even the Spider Man meme is part of

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>this Spider verse. They include each in every version of

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man that you can possibly think of. And yes,

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Spider Hamp is a pig and it's hilarious. They have

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Spider Monkey, they have Spider Wolf. I thought it was

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.760
<v Speaker 1>telling Harken back to that ultimate line of Captain America,

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>being like, there's not a Negro Captain whatever. They have

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.240
<v Speaker 1>a thing where Miles has an adventure with Old School

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man and when he pulls off his mask to

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>show that he's black, Old School Spider Man goes, wait

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a minute, e're a and then I go, oh, man,

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe old School Spider Man is kind of old school

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>and bad way it's head. He goes a teenager, Yeah,

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>they hit you with one of them. I'm like, oh no,

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and then they get like, okay, yeah they got us.

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>They played with our emotions, and we'll talk about how

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 1>they played with our emotions even more after these messages.

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome back. Still sitting here with Aaron Powell

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and my man Ed Greer holding it down. This has

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.919
<v Speaker 1>been a fun one we've been It's been like an

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>open conversation dropping facts instead of going you know, in

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the normal order. But that's what happens when you know,

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 1>when we're tapping in. It feels like instead of an

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>episode where we're falling along with an expert, we have

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 1>three passionate expense So you know, sorry, follow this one's

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a little harder for you to fall along. I implore

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you to tweet us. We will keep the conversation going on.

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like we're doing a good job of

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>like weaving in the top and bottom. But you know,

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>one thing we didn't touch on, and I did say

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about playing with emotions, is how

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>people reacted to Miles and and once again, this was

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>another thing that we were all so luckily able to

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>experience live and direct. And it was funny when you know,

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>while like Stanley gave it the okay thumbs up and

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>people like us really loved it, you had those fans

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>out there that do what they do anytime any diversity

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>initiative launches a diverse character, switches up or red cons

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and add something. You had people complaining that you know,

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>this is just a move for for political correctness and

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know you're just trying to check on PC,

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and you know there's many takes that people have, many

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:02.959
<v Speaker 1>responses and minds is always yep, so ok yeah, yeah,

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>it's we want to be represented. So it's like yelling

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 1>at a dude in the tesla, like you're just trying

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to save the environment. Yeah. The one the one thing

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 1>that I always brought at and on that regard is

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>when they go, Okay, you're just doing this for diversity,

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>You're just doing this for whatever reason. Everything is just

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>for some reason. Everything is just for some agenda. And

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 1>up until very recently, the agenda has been I don't

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>want to call it white supremacy, but let's call it

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 1>white a okay, you know what I mean. I like, hey, okay,

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I like to call it that. The one rule that

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>most waves of business go back it is called I'm white.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And I say, so, that's usually that's usually the reason

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of things. And then when we we

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>get something like it's a comic book character, it's a

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.720
<v Speaker 1>fictional character, and he had your own separate but equal

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>universe for a long time. Want exactly they eased you

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>into it. He didn't show up with your mom. I'm

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>your new daddy the East. Well, here's the funny thing

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:06.919
<v Speaker 1>about it, and here's my like less cynical way of

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>doing it, because I try, and you know, as I

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 1>get deeper in the nerves space and as we become

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>more talking points, I try and to like take a

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit of snap energy because you know, rest in peace.

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>John Schnapp, he always, like one thing I want to

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>take from him is just his ability to kind of

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>like try and like ease you into it and not

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>be the DMX of nerdom, which I am usually want

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to do. And the way I look at it is it, honestly,

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.439
<v Speaker 1>if we're not being just straight up cynical and we're

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>just being facts for facts. Before a certain time, media

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>was made for white people. You the you knew you

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>were creating it for a majority white person. You know

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>that the only people who needed to relate to it

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>is white people. But what we all know now, especially

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 1>as all of us are creators, We are writers, we

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>are actors, We we work in this industry industry. So

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.720
<v Speaker 1>this isn't speculative. This isn't speculation, This is just facts.

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>When you are creating art, you're trying to touch your audience,

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to touch your viewers, and you're gonna do

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.439
<v Speaker 1>everything you can to make them feel included. You're gonna

0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>do everything you can to look on that screen and

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.839
<v Speaker 1>have them go, oh, that can be me. And you know,

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>for so long a lot of people of color had

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to look at these white people on the screen and

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and find themselves in them. And in the end we

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:32.839
<v Speaker 1>made it work. And now we're getting to a place

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>where you're getting a lot of creatives who are like,

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>let's switch it up. Let's, you know, create this character

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 1>who you know black kids can look up to and

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>go like, that's me. But it's the old quote about

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 1>how equality seems like oppression. You haven't, you know, get

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:48.479
<v Speaker 1>it out. And I think that that when they see

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>they don't realize what it was like for me as

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 1>little kid, to be like, look it up to thor thor,

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>don't look like nobody has been in my family history

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 1>years And I got to see myself and there's North

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>do with a belt made of cow hide and all

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>this jazz. But you can't see yourself in a Brooklyn

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 1>teenager when you probably was a teen in Brooklyn. Have

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 1>these people who are balking at Miles lived Miles his

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>life and say they can't see it themselves in him

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>because of his skin, And I think that's that's that's

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>a weird situation. But like you said, snap energy, I

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.760
<v Speaker 1>feel as though it's also the fact that it's belying

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 1>that jazz about there is no audience for this when

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I've going into several comic book stores and seeing people

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.239
<v Speaker 1>unbidden like sometimes I've walked into several combook stores and

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 1>had a diversity and comics, uh conversation pop up as

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I walked in the store. I don't know what that's about.

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, it's time to talk about

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.399
<v Speaker 1>diversity in comix and how whack it is. And I'm

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 1>just people. The one of the main talking points they

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>say is black people and women and lesbians or whatever

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to connect with the Latinos, they don't really

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 1>read comics. That's so so false, and I just love

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>for that. That is also part of it. It is

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a business. There is a business reason beyond a lot

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>of this diversity, and it is to sell to people

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>who are buying comics that do not happen to look

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like regular Parker. Yeah, and lots of times it's just

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 1>dated information and that you just kept using, like the

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>example that a black lead, you know, movie can't do

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:12.440
<v Speaker 1>well overseas, and then which is totally so surprised that

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 1>black panthers this smash hit that is doing well. Look

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 1>at Fast and Furious, which is a black lead movie,

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.439
<v Speaker 1>like get hit whatever you think out of your mind.

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Almost all of those actors in that movie, if they're

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>not Latin X people, they're black. The Rock is black.

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry people, it's sorry people forget, but look his daddy.

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 1>His name is Dawayne Johnson. D Wayne Johnson. Okay, his

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 1>name is Dawayne Johnson. He is like no matter how

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>much they've tried to poke up his I don't think

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>he's ever played a black person explicitly on film, but

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Rock is a black dude. He was in a faction

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>called the Nation of Domination, based on the Nation of Islam. Well,

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>he's doing the new Uh, he's doing the New Schwarzenegger

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 1>where it's like this fool's name is John Matrix and

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>he got this thick German accent, but got all the

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>clearances with the Delta Force. Oh well, well they do

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that with Dwayne right now. They did John Claude Van

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Damage street Fighter too. Yeah, and I called him Russian

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:16.759
<v Speaker 1>even though he has not the muscles from Brussels. So

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>when when Myles some of the some of the reaction

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to him, Yes, there were some people who definitely balked

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>at him. And there were also the people, let's kind

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>of talk about some of the people who are just like, well,

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>why can't he just have his own thing? Oh, let's yeah,

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, because there are some people

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, there they yeah, and they and they

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 1>really try to try and make that strong argument of like, yeah,

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>if he had his own thing, that'd be better than

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>just rebranding X y Z. And really it's coming from

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 1>the same place. I think. You know, I think there

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is a corner of people who like it is driven

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 1>by racism, but I think there's another corner of people

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>who just don't like change. I think it could even

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 1>if it was like you know, Romy Schwartz and it

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.319
<v Speaker 1>was like just this new Jewish kid who was Spider Man,

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>people would be just as mad and it was just

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>because they're like, you're changing the thing that I like,

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and for some reason, I'm forgetting that. I always have

0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>every future iteration of the thing. And what's the funny is,

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 1>like people being mad about Miles Morales, they were actually

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that thing that people try and say where it's

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 1>like we are creating this own thing. But now it's

0:48:18.360 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>a problem. It's a problem because like they weren't saying,

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 1>could they create their own thing? With the eight kid Flashes,

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 1>we've had no one. No one's saying that, you know,

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>but but we get a black kid flash. Now it's

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>a problem. Why can't he have his own thing? Okay, yeah,

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 1>black dude running fast, kind of racist, but you know

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>his name is Wally, which is an old black man. Well,

0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>are you happy with the first one? That second one

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like a reach. We can't think Wallace Wallace Willis

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>West Anyway. The thing I was thinking about also is

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 1>giving these legacy characters. Personally, I think I am one

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:58.920
<v Speaker 1>of the few fans that I love the fact that

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 1>he's Spider Man. I love the fact they had Spider powers,

0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>but he's more than Spider Man as well. It's almost

0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>like he's in a situation where Cassandra Caine Batgirl was

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:09.919
<v Speaker 1>in for a long time. Cassandra Caine as bad Girl

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was for my generation, the best bad girl, and she

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 1>she could do so many things that Barbara Gordon could

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:18.760
<v Speaker 1>not do as a as a because she was different

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and speak full yeah, full stop. She was different. She

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of different stuff, and Myles has so

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>many different things. I would love to see him become

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a character kind of like the Scarlet Spider or the

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 1>night Wing situation or something like that. If they did

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that organically, I would not think that was capitulating to

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>racism or whatever. I would just think that was like,

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>because if he's not gonna be the Spider Man of

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a universe, this whole two Spider Man jazz does weird

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.560
<v Speaker 1>be out? It kind of does. What are you trying

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to do? Is like it would be like if there

0:49:44.960 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was a Daredevil that fought and this three three acre

0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:50.040
<v Speaker 1>section of Kill's kitchen and then a Dare Deevil that

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.320
<v Speaker 1>was chilling in Manhattan and had better suits and better

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:53.880
<v Speaker 1>clothes and stuff. That's kind of how they did it

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.439
<v Speaker 1>for a minute. And now Spider Man's a poor bum again.

0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 1>They made him lose his company to ground him a

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 1>little bit. It's almost like people forget that what they

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>love about Spider Man is their own youth. Yea, their

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>own youth. They were sitting on the bed at fourteen

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 1>and that was reading about this white Spider Man going

0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:12.360
<v Speaker 1>through his troubles eating his wheatcakes, and that was their dude,

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that that you know what I'm saying. So basically, the

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Ultimates line and this New Spider Man is a way

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to reconnect Spider Man with being thirteen and fifteen, to

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.600
<v Speaker 1>show us the Spider Man that's thirteen, fifteen, sixteen going

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 1>through little changes and stuff. Meanwhile, we have this older

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man who's like thirty five basically Peters like in

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 1>his thirties now, and to keep him always broke and

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 1>always having woman trouble stuff you thirty five. He and

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:36.799
<v Speaker 1>Pete needs to get it together. He has a PhD

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 1>company and stuff. I'm like dock Octopus did everything he

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 1>can to get peace life together and then he threw

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 1>it all the way. That's funny. He really is a superior. Yeah,

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.799
<v Speaker 1>he got everything going for Pete. But then like we

0:50:48.880 --> 0:50:52.359
<v Speaker 1>get Miles coming through and it's a fresh character. It's

0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>a fresh start. It's not. They're not rehashing the same

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>stories with them. And although I must say his new

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.280
<v Speaker 1>origin in the six one six is straight up trash.

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>They make him, they make him have an uncle Ben,

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that's like this duty just mat oh, I thought you

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>were talking about six one six Miles is a six

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>one six Miles. We'll let you read that so we

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>don't spoil it for you. But the way that Miles

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>is introduced and gets that da to be Spider Man

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>in the new six one six continuity that they put together,

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:21.120
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty trash and dumb. But as Aaron said, there

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>is a Miles Morales who is not heroic at all,

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>not at all, not at all. He there's in the

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Spider Men to Um series. It's about like a five

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 1>issue five six issues mini series and Miles Morales of

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the six six universe. This is a sequel to the

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 1>First Spider Man where Peter Parker from six one six

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 1>meets ultimate uh Universe Miles and they have a lot

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.879
<v Speaker 1>of adventure, have a blue adventure. Then he looks up

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>if there's a Miles in the six six universe and

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 1>he finds out turns out this Moles Morales is an

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 1>adult uh, and he went to jail because you know,

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>his uncle went to jails. Following to jail, he followed suit. Tragically,

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 1>he was in the hill with Wilson Fisk, Kingpan, who

0:52:03.280 --> 0:52:07.400
<v Speaker 1>he whose life he saved in jail. So Wilson Fisk

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 1>has a life debt to this Miles Morales and they

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>are basically just like crime buddies. I guess Wilson Fisk

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>is basically Moss Morales of the six one six, the

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:22.359
<v Speaker 1>older Miles Ralest, he's basically his Chewbacca. Like they just

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>rolled ripping arms off hard in jail. They were like

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the homies and stuff and like ripping arms off and

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff and just like you know. And then when Wilson

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Fisk got like, if you need anything, I got you,

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 1>and he used Taskmaster to kill his younger self from

0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 1>another universe to try to yeah, to try to so yeah. Basically,

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 1>so there is a Miles Morales in the six one

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>six that can be explored as a villain character. And

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>there's the Smiles Ralest, this young Moles Ralysis in the

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 1>universe as a spider Man, And like I said, I

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>would love for them to come up with a fresh

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 1>spider name for him. I would love for the rest

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:57.799
<v Speaker 1>of those Spider dudes that get killed. Yeah, I really don't.

0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I really don't like most of the Spider Man. Most

0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:02.440
<v Speaker 1>of the other Spider dudes are whack. I like the

0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Spider Women. Spider Women are awesome, like a lot, and

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of They need to change some of

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the names because like, uh, there's like four Spider Women. No,

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, like their code names are actually

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Spider Woman. Like there's like four of them right now.

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Silk is different Spider Gwynn coincidence, so it's also Spider Woman.

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Spider Gwen is just the name of the book. But

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>she shows out in her own universe, so it's not

0:53:28.280 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>she's in her own universe, so she's not around. There's

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Spider Woman who Jessica drew Spider Woman, um, um, Julie Carpenter,

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and she's like a Clona Peter. Is that the one

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that Yeah, there's two, Jessica drews that there's one that's

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.280
<v Speaker 1>a clone Peter. And then that's the other one who

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 1>went on adventures with her. She went she went on

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Adventures while pregnant, which was awesome. The series was great. Um.

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Then there's Arachne, there's ironya. These are ways can we

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:01.680
<v Speaker 1>play with this is Spider all, this is all in

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>six one six all on the Island of Manhattan. Yeah,

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.439
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a there's a little bit too much Spider

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>in this made. Personally, I don't know how what direction

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take this in, but I personally think that

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 1>they should just I gotta say they should reseparate the

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:17.399
<v Speaker 1>jazz because like Sydney Moon in her own world will

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>be sick. They've shown that Sydney Moon on another world

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>has a superspy and basically runs the world as a

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 1>doctor Doom type person who has everybody's powers. Sydney Moon

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:27.400
<v Speaker 1>is one of those characters that, like they just got introduced.

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I was knew that still was awesome because she led

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:34.720
<v Speaker 1>into the Spider of her storyline and her her origin

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>was interesting because she got bit by the same spiders

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Peter got bit by, but she had to get put

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 1>away wherever. That's how they explained how it never came out.

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:48.600
<v Speaker 1>That's a century thing. Yeah, it was Marvel. But also

0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Miles Morallis actually has a thing with Spider Gwan. A

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of fans know that he has a little they

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>got a little they've been they've been because they're roughly

0:54:55.440 --> 0:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the same age, Like she's not aged up like Peter is.

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 1>They're roughly around the same age. And you had a

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 1>little little romance going on and stuff. They saw a

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit of their future and stuff too. Yeah, but

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what gives them pauses. They saw that they're supposed

0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to get married and when one of the worlds they're

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>very much buried, and they got all kind of these

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Afro Latino whatever, Afric Latino Irish future babies. So they

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of like if you and I like that as

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a part of Miles and their characters, Like when you

0:55:22.920 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 1>see your future, do you just embrace it right off

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the bat? Do you do you think, well, maybe I

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 1>need to approach this more organically. What do you think

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>about as a possible future? Like the time where he

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>saw himself killing Captain America? Yeah, yeah, that the whole

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Civil War too, which was a garbage storyline. I mean,

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like the fact that they wanted to revisit

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Civil War like there was and there was a movie

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:50.279
<v Speaker 1>coming out and yeah, and that Civil War wasn't as

0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:53.120
<v Speaker 1>good as the original Civil War, and it was because

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it was rushed. They fell into the trap that I

0:55:56.080 --> 0:56:00.399
<v Speaker 1>feel the c falls into, which is rushing their their

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:04.439
<v Speaker 1>mythos to try and keep up with like what Marvel does.

0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.640
<v Speaker 1>And Marvel was rushing their mythos because they're like, oh man,

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Civil War was a real cool moment for

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.160
<v Speaker 1>comic book fans. I know they'll rush to see this.

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 1>It is like, yeah, but if you build it, like

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:16.240
<v Speaker 1>imagine if they did Civil War now with how many

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:20.239
<v Speaker 1>folks were on that uh Infinity War poster that was

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Civil War, that would be the best airport scene ever.

0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you know, because that airport scene was mad

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>empty this time. But we like, well, we talked about

0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Spider Verse. Like I said, I think Spider Verse, none

0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.759
<v Speaker 1>of us have seen it, but when we know. But

0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I do believe from the trailer that day they do

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 1>incorporate things from the common book telling of Miles Prollas.

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 1>And also I think this might be in the same

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:47.640
<v Speaker 1>way that in my personal opinion, The Dark Knight features

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.240
<v Speaker 1>the best joker I've ever seen. And I understand everybody

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:51.759
<v Speaker 1>want to add with the Mark Hamill and this and

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:53.720
<v Speaker 1>not the other, but I'm just saying, for my money,

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that was the first joker. I felt that, Uh, that

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:58.800
<v Speaker 1>was super cool. Had had his own chaos theory to

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.240
<v Speaker 1>him and all this jazz, and I'll presented a credible

0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:04.759
<v Speaker 1>threat to Batman physically. All those checked those boxes for me,

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and I was fine with that. And that's the best

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:08.359
<v Speaker 1>one I saw. I think Miles Morales might do something

0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:10.879
<v Speaker 1>like that four Miles in the Spider Verse movie, because

0:57:10.880 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 1>they allow him to be himself for longer periods of

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 1>time than he even is in his book. I mean,

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 1>some people think he is it's been quoted. He seems

0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 1>like a stranger in his own book. They seem up

0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:22.919
<v Speaker 1>getting to the motivations of everybody but him in certain times,

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 1>especially later in the run, you know when they start

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.360
<v Speaker 1>thinking about his place. And I also think that they

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of coddle him a little bit, like he does

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:32.720
<v Speaker 1>he's not smart enough, and I think this is whack,

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 1>but he's not not whack. But I think it's interesting

0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that he's not smart in that way enough to make

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>his own web shooters, so they give him webshooters and shield.

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But now to alleviate that term, because that might be

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 1>something like, well he's too dumb to make web shooters.

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 1>That's racist. Or something. Now they've given him these weird

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 1>webs that he shoots out of his like fingertips and

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 1>wrists and stuff that he can swing on. It's like

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:52.959
<v Speaker 1>he's making these weird you know, he looks like best

0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:58.760
<v Speaker 1>genius from that hero Academia. So some of the later

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 1>things that I'm doing with my else I personally think

0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 1>are kind of whack. And I hope, like you were

0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 1>saying that things that cinematic universe kind of pushes back

0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 1>on the comics, and comics push on the movies, I

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:09.600
<v Speaker 1>hope that the comics will get more like this versions

0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of Miles in the movie. Well, I feel like the

0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:16.080
<v Speaker 1>solution of Miles for the future of Miles is super,

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 1>super simple. It's the same way they were able to

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:22.920
<v Speaker 1>bring back Black Panther with the Vengeance and it be strong.

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>You gotta put a black writer behind it, or even

0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a Latin X writer, because you need someone writing from truth.

0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>You're saying that, you know, the main complaint is that

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 1>he's following everyone else's motivations is because it's gonna be

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:37.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of hard for a white writer to wonder what

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a thirteen year old Afro Latino in a major cities

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 1>motivations are going to be one of the main things

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that Brandon Bank Michael Band this was a misstep, and

0:58:46.160 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people's opinion was he had a big

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:50.600
<v Speaker 1>passage in there where somebody saw his his mask get

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:52.919
<v Speaker 1>torn off. It was in the ultimate line. Somebody saw

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:55.160
<v Speaker 1>his mask get torn off towards the bottom and towards

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the shoulders and stuff, and they saw that he had

0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:59.400
<v Speaker 1>black skin under his spider suit. And this lady blogger

0:58:59.520 --> 0:59:03.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, the Spider Man is of color and

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 1>also saw that. It was like, I don't want to

0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 1>be the black Spider Man. I just want to be

0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Spider Man. That's right out. Yeah, that was that was

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't see color. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do it.

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's it's so interesting because it is, you know,

0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>just a touch on that. I feel like that has

0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:29.440
<v Speaker 1>been pushed on people of color for so long. It

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:31.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, you don't want to be the the the

0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and insert your race here version of this. You want

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:36.400
<v Speaker 1>to be, but you do want to be because you

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 1>want people to look up to you, like, yeah, I

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 1>want to be the best black comedian so that other

0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 1>little black kids can look up and be like I

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:47.640
<v Speaker 1>can be a comedian that being said, I don't need

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 1>my peers saying that I'm the best black comedian. Like

0:59:51.240 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a nuanced relationship with that type of identity

0:59:54.560 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that once again, like we said, can't be covered by

0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a white writer. Because I can understand why business might

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<v Speaker 1>think like, oh, yeah, you don't want to be known

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<v Speaker 1>as the as the black spider Man. Is like, yeah, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be known as the Black spider

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<v Speaker 1>Man to white people, but to black people, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be known as the Black spider Man. So to

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<v Speaker 1>that blogger who was indeed black, he would have been like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the people. But to but if it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, little miss, you know Janice at HuffPo and

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<v Speaker 1>she was like black spider Man, he'd be like pause.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, that's a whole another rant that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time for, which is about you know, nuance

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<v Speaker 1>and approaching things and how you know this error wokeness

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to be right doesn't allow open discussions about

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<v Speaker 1>nuance because we rushed to have the right answer and

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<v Speaker 1>not actually understand what's being talked about and thinking thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of this stuff has an answer is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of simple. To know. I mean, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a complex reman being nuance situations. Every situation is different,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just yeah, I would love the champion the

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<v Speaker 1>rit earned to Nuance. Yeah, because there might be another

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<v Speaker 1>three black nerds in here who would be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that because I don't want him to be

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<v Speaker 1>the black and they wouldn't be wrong. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>that's your that's your opinion on it. That's slide Whisper

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get that out, Yeah, I was. I tried to

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<v Speaker 1>ignore it and then correct Yeah, and then it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we gotta gotta look at this failure. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what would their parents be? They got like the pants

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<v Speaker 1>up to their imagine this guy, Yeah he got He

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<v Speaker 1>got a whole bunch of beat reading poems. He smelled

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<v Speaker 1>like Patuli and like cool water. Right, Why you combined

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<v Speaker 1>both of you? Why you got on too much cologne? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what that appears with. Yeah. I'm just glad

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<v Speaker 1>that they've given Miles his due and they're allowing for

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man and Miles to be for the for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the universe, for the rest to the world

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<v Speaker 1>to see their relationship. This is me as the Spider

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<v Speaker 1>Man at thirteen, you are Spider Man at thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>They make a very big point in the trailer to

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<v Speaker 1>show that this Spider Man has done it all, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting thing to be, like, have that person

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody who doesn't know anything, and but he's also

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<v Speaker 1>a fish out of water. He's in a whole another world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's it's the forty eight hours reboot

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<v Speaker 1>that we've always wanted. I never thought it, well, unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>they're already doing a forty hours reboot, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>mad that I'm not already auditioning for so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before we go into you know, your plugs, which were

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<v Speaker 1>about to get into right before. I did want to

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<v Speaker 1>mention this because I feel like y'all would agree with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally would be like, what are your you know, picks

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<v Speaker 1>of comics to intro you in a Miles. But Miles

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty young, uh you know, pun intended character

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe, and I think you can't go wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with starting with his original arc and then dipping into

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some Spiderverse stuff if you want to hear some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff we're talking about, and then just the

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<v Speaker 1>new arc that starts after Secret Wars. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>could probably skip Secret Wars. You can skip Secret Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just long and convoluted and stuff, but you can. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They even have a new ongoing series that's about to

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<v Speaker 1>start very soon. UM if you just want to just

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<v Speaker 1>get your feet wet with that as well. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a new writer, Brian Michael Business is not writing

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<v Speaker 1>this because he's over at DC now. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time Miles has ever been written by anybody else. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>he kept for the most part because like in Like

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<v Speaker 1>he was part of the Champions and um, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Benness wrote that all and then he was also

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<v Speaker 1>in Um. He's been by other people in other books,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the most part his solo books was always Bundes.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is something. This is basically in the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah it is. It is a writer of color Muslim. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a spicy tag or it might

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<v Speaker 1>just be a regular one. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>putting stuff on him. Well yeah, well but that's another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Just last things last, you do get with Miles Morales

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<v Speaker 1>himself and with certain creators of color, you do get

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<v Speaker 1>this whole like you've got to represent everybody. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big things about Black Panther and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other black heroes that especially in the Marvel But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like you gotta represent everybody, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And I think that nowadays we're getting to

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<v Speaker 1>see that there's different parts of the universe, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>different different ways to be black, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some monolithic things, so he can represent the young

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man and the way he wants to be Black

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<v Speaker 1>or afric Latino and so on and so forth. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're getting to an era of diversity, even amongst

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<v Speaker 1>the diversity, if you know what I mean. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>being black is a very diverse thing in itself, because

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<v Speaker 1>black people in America are different from black people in

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<v Speaker 1>the Caribbean, different from black people in Europe. So everybody

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<v Speaker 1>can get something different from it. You can get like

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<v Speaker 1>Miles is is one of those he's still young. They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna age him up soon or whenever they feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jubilee has been thirteen for forty years, but

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<v Speaker 1>until they decided that you need to have a baby,

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<v Speaker 1>that is like, yeah, now that you believe, like twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>she adopted a kid. Let's not forget when she was

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<v Speaker 1>a vampire, got a baby, she adopted him as a vampire. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she adopted as a vampire. Yeah, okay, I am a

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<v Speaker 1>Jubilee fan, so I'm like, I'm cool with her development

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