Speaker 1: Oh right, welcome to nerd if a sent I am
Speaker 1: your host, if you way, sitting across from me is
Speaker 1: not Danny Fernandez, but actually, to the right of me,
Speaker 1: my special guest co host today is a good friend
Speaker 1: of ours. Ed Greer. How are you doing, hey, man?
Speaker 1: If this is really cool to be here. I've listened
Speaker 1: to you guys for a while, and you know, no
Speaker 1: one can replace Danny. I'm just gonna occupy this space
Speaker 1: and time. I like how you entered this as if
Speaker 1: you're going to be a step parent. Like, look, I'm
Speaker 1: not here to replace Danny. I'm just you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just here for your dad. I just don't want instant
Speaker 1: hate that it's not Danny, alright, and sitting across from
Speaker 1: me this time is a good friend as well. Aaron Powell,
Speaker 1: how are you doing. I'm good, man, doing good good.
Speaker 1: You have done the most nerdy Prince crossovers I think
Speaker 1: that I've seen ever. Dude, it's it's my thing now.
Speaker 1: People will not not let me dress up as prints,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I kind of have to. Even when I
Speaker 1: try to do other stuff, they say, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? Prince again? I'm like, I guess I grew
Speaker 1: out this long beard so I would stop doing princes. Like,
Speaker 1: now we're good, you can still do prints. Yeah, prince
Speaker 1: had a beard at one point. I'm like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: not the costume that I do. We don't care. Just
Speaker 1: do princes and dance and that's all it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm six I'm the tallest prince ever. I'm six one.
Speaker 1: And then I actually have like a little bit of
Speaker 1: lift on the boots that I wear, so like, I'm
Speaker 1: just like this humongous princes walking around in a giant
Speaker 1: purple coat. You've probably seen me if you've been to
Speaker 1: a comic convention. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna drop where
Speaker 1: you can find both of y'all just at the same time. So, Edgarer,
Speaker 1: you you do the screen shunkys, you know you you
Speaker 1: you hop on the screen junkies, and you have your
Speaker 1: own podcast as well. You want to tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about that. Um. Yeah, it's called nerd Goat Podcast,
Speaker 1: and we've had you and Danny on, which are very
Speaker 1: popular episodes. Dodka, but it's just a dive into people's
Speaker 1: favorite fictional character, and that can be you know, we've
Speaker 1: done Tarzan, We've done Conan, We've done characters from video games,
Speaker 1: Spider Man, the Daredevil's this isn't that we've done Elaine
Speaker 1: Benness from Seinfeld Coat, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's it's not just you know, people who swing on
Speaker 1: webs and bunch people do walls. It's it's certainly whatever
Speaker 1: fictional character. And we find that when people come on
Speaker 1: and they really get a chance to just go nuts,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, your significant other always here's your
Speaker 1: dumb screed, whatever you like. It's it's our guest opportunity,
Speaker 1: funny people like yourselves. And I usually I want to
Speaker 1: I want to invite you on it. Right now. I
Speaker 1: will definitely be no, no podcast. I'm shutting it down.
Speaker 1: But honestly said Bargo. But anyway, yeah, so that's that's
Speaker 1: what we do. Me and my man Ron Swallow, We
Speaker 1: just we just let somebody vent on their favorite fictional
Speaker 1: character and we kind of James lifting it up. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think it's a great concept and it was really
Speaker 1: fun to be on. Uh, you know, Elaine isn't as
Speaker 1: weird to me as someone whose favorite character is Tarzan.
Speaker 1: Little Tarzan had stands like that. That was wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: And and sometimes We'll have people who will have like
Speaker 1: they won't have this giant comprehensive like, oh I know
Speaker 1: everything about this character, but they're like a certain iteration
Speaker 1: of them, Like she liked the Johnny White Miller Swimming
Speaker 1: Tarzan movies. Yeah, you know, from back in the days,
Speaker 1: because the best back when she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: her grandpa wau show him to her and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So we get to see why people connected with some
Speaker 1: of these characters. Rather than just nerd out and standing
Speaker 1: out about the character and doing some roll call of
Speaker 1: their feats or whatever, it ends up being a deep
Speaker 1: dive into the personality of the person, which is I
Speaker 1: think the special part about the show. It sounds like
Speaker 1: you are qualify your resume stacks up to be a
Speaker 1: co host and I'm gonna turnover to Aaron. And you know,
Speaker 1: you have quite a few podcasts. I have to, I
Speaker 1: have to, and I guess on a lot of others.
Speaker 1: Um I did a couple of guest spots this week,
Speaker 1: and I got a couple more later on my podcast, though, uh,
Speaker 1: the two of them are. Aaron explains the universe, which
Speaker 1: um it started off with just me giving dating advice
Speaker 1: and like talking about like dating mishaps I've had in
Speaker 1: the past two Now I talk more about like social issues, um,
Speaker 1: things going on in the world just and I'll ramble
Speaker 1: about a lot of other stuff too, but I always
Speaker 1: bring it back to Daton somehow. My other podcast, which
Speaker 1: is on hiatus until I find a different format for
Speaker 1: I want to do video for It's called Stupid Movie Tuesday. Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Stupid Movie Tuesday is when I watched a movie either
Speaker 1: new or old, and I give my honest review on it.
Speaker 1: The episode that a lot of people like is my
Speaker 1: Suicide Squad one, And then the one people like because
Speaker 1: I'm just so angry about it was, um, Gods of Egypt.
Speaker 1: I didn't even make it through the whole movie. I
Speaker 1: watched that one live as I did it, and like,
Speaker 1: if you want to hear there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: cursing on this podcast that I'm on right now, but
Speaker 1: if you want to hear somebody curse and find the
Speaker 1: Stupid Movie Tuesday where I'm doing Gods of Egypt, you
Speaker 1: will see me at my absolute angriest. It's like driving
Speaker 1: on the four oh five angry. That's a regional reference
Speaker 1: is not gonna get but it's whatever freeway is in
Speaker 1: your town that you hate. That's what it was. You
Speaker 1: didn't like those Irish Egyptian gods. No, not at all
Speaker 1: because like that like my family like from Egypt. So
Speaker 1: like when I watched it, I was like, wait a minute, wait,
Speaker 1: wait wait, this is this is this is not right
Speaker 1: at all, And like just just on a mythology standpoint,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is terrible. Jamie Lanister, the actor who
Speaker 1: plays him, because I can't pronounce his actual name, uh,
Speaker 1: he played Horace in that movie. Yeah, Jamie, Jamie Lanister
Speaker 1: playing don't don't, don't spoil it, let him let him
Speaker 1: go see that, will see it, go see it. Sigourney
Speaker 1: Weavers in it for some reason. Whatever Sigourney Weavers might
Speaker 1: forever cross, she can be in whatever movie. She can
Speaker 1: be in Black Panther. Honestly, there was there was an
Speaker 1: actor in Black Panther that was in Gods of Egypt two.
Speaker 1: He was he was ban he was taught. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Vin Chadwick Boseman head basically was like, I guess he
Speaker 1: needs to pay rent that mother book Black Panther yet
Speaker 1: al right, Well, speaking of Black Panther and black superheroes
Speaker 1: segue of the year. Mons Morales is who we're here
Speaker 1: to talk about. Morales is fun. We're gonna get into
Speaker 1: the deeds and the in the beginning of it, but
Speaker 1: Mons Morales is cool in the sense that I remember
Speaker 1: when he came on the scene. I remember, I think
Speaker 1: everyone in this room remembers it, and I remember when
Speaker 1: he first came in being unimpressed, uh not by the
Speaker 1: character itself, but on the well for for the nonversed fans,
Speaker 1: I'll like walk it back and explain everything I'm mentioning,
Speaker 1: but the fact that he existed in the Ultimate Universe
Speaker 1: and not six one six, so that I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: y'all doing it, but you're not really doing it and
Speaker 1: what that means for those who might not know the
Speaker 1: difference between the six one six universe and the Ultimate Universe,
Speaker 1: Marvel established that there's multiple universes and the six one
Speaker 1: six universe is basically the main canon everything that dates
Speaker 1: back to Marvel that you basically know and love, and
Speaker 1: Ultimate universes where all the Ultimate comics were from Ultimate
Speaker 1: Spider Man, l X Men, Ultimate Avengers, and they used
Speaker 1: to be separate. There was a weird moment of time
Speaker 1: when all the drawings in the Ultimate comics looked like
Speaker 1: everyone who ended up being cast in the movies. You know,
Speaker 1: Wolverine looked like Hugh jackman Um Samuel Jackson got the
Speaker 1: job to because them like that. They like the Nick
Speaker 1: Fury and the Latimate Universe came first, didn't didn't quite
Speaker 1: work out for Eminem and wanted no, not at all,
Speaker 1: and and basically the thing that but you know what,
Speaker 1: the thing that I liked about the Ultimate Universe in
Speaker 1: the first few years was they did seem to take
Speaker 1: it like just that tiny They turned up the realism
Speaker 1: dial just a little bit, and then they leaned on
Speaker 1: that mug and it went then exactly. The Ultimate Universe
Speaker 1: was great when it first started. By the time Miles
Speaker 1: was getting into it, though, it was not falling off
Speaker 1: because like when Miles got into it, and then I
Speaker 1: think we'll get into this later. At some point Captain
Speaker 1: America took over America. Uh, they split it up. At
Speaker 1: some point, Peter Parker was dead. The X Men, it
Speaker 1: was just off the rails. It was like X Men
Speaker 1: three bad when it came back to Like the X Men. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm a pause and because I like to kind of
Speaker 1: make it a little inclusive for the nerds who might
Speaker 1: not have that deep knowledge. The reason I said didn't
Speaker 1: work out for Eminem is if you read the original
Speaker 1: Wanted comic, he's drawn like Eminem because they drew the
Speaker 1: comic in the way that they drew it with how
Speaker 1: they would want it to be cast in the movie.
Speaker 1: They drew it anticipate in the movie coming out, so
Speaker 1: they drew it to have certain people get cast for it.
Speaker 1: Like if you read The Boys, Um, there's a character
Speaker 1: who looks exactly like Simon Peg in there. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and he wrote the foreword to like one of the
Speaker 1: training paperbacks. Yeah. And if unfortunately it's he's too old
Speaker 1: to play it now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I can whatever, it's it's past and they already
Speaker 1: cast him. But I auditioned for Mother's Milk. Yeah, I was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I request that one, but I'm too young, like
Speaker 1: Mother's Milk is an older character. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I just want, like I'm getting to the point where
Speaker 1: I've I've I've been taking some swing out a few superheroes,
Speaker 1: and to me, I'm just happy that I'm taking them swing.
Speaker 1: Most recent notable audition that I did was for Ronnie
Speaker 1: de Vo for the New Audition movie. Because I'm tall,
Speaker 1: I'm light skinning, I can dance. I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to do Ronnie the Vote, And obviously I didn't
Speaker 1: get it, but there was a part of me that
Speaker 1: I was going to say, how did that go? And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, the movie can the movies out?
Speaker 1: The movies out already? That was funny when you do
Speaker 1: tell people you auditioned for something that's out there, like
Speaker 1: how well it well, they cast me as an orc,
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. But it's funny that you guys
Speaker 1: were talking about the movie connection because one of the
Speaker 1: things about the Ultimates and specific was that was, honestly,
Speaker 1: if you really look back on it, that was them
Speaker 1: giving Mark Miller a chance to shape what was going
Speaker 1: to be their cinematic universe. They're They're iron Man is
Speaker 1: very much like the like the Tony start that we
Speaker 1: got in the movies. They're They're Keptain America is a
Speaker 1: little hyped up. He can like throw a volts wag
Speaker 1: instead of just chomp out of the way of one.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The six one says kept
Speaker 1: America to jump out the way the ultimate line, He'll
Speaker 1: kick ahole of your fucialize. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He don't care they made Wolverine a little taller. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: they tried to do a lot of stuff, so but
Speaker 1: basically then they started like even they had things like
Speaker 1: Captain America when he first woke up and he saw
Speaker 1: Nick Fury, he was like, ain't no high ranking back
Speaker 1: right now? That was that That made me in a
Speaker 1: strange way. It made me feel good when he did that,
Speaker 1: because Captain America six won six. His real superpower is
Speaker 1: not being completely racist as a product of the of
Speaker 1: the forties, you know, like think about it. He's not
Speaker 1: racist at all, And like a little bit of that
Speaker 1: bothers me a little bit because because like you hear first,
Speaker 1: Aaron really wants to No, no, I don't want him
Speaker 1: to be I just want him to be more realistic
Speaker 1: in the case, like he doesn't have to be like
Speaker 1: like deviate ly likely racist, but like just subtle stuff
Speaker 1: like oh, there's a woman on the team, or like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a negro, what's this? That was always
Speaker 1: my beef with Captain America when they was like, yo,
Speaker 1: this dude's ill as mill Terry leader. So when he
Speaker 1: comes to let's say or two thousand, he's going to
Speaker 1: be the dude who knows who's up on it. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to get some of those Sherman tanks. We
Speaker 1: don't even use Sherman tanks. We have evolved. We need
Speaker 1: to get some of those M fourteen rifles, like exactly
Speaker 1: fragmentation grenade. Well, we don't even pilot our whole stuff.
Speaker 1: So towards the end of the ultimate line that when
Speaker 1: they turned the violence up to eleven and they started
Speaker 1: killing off stuff. I do believe though, for a segment
Speaker 1: of people. I think that Myles Royllis did kind of
Speaker 1: resuscitate for certain people because I came and read the
Speaker 1: whole run way afterwards, and I was kind of moved
Speaker 1: at how they had kind of set him up with
Speaker 1: his own uncle Ben's story of him thinking he could
Speaker 1: have helped. He gets his powers well before Spider Man
Speaker 1: is dead, but he chooses to not use them because
Speaker 1: he doesn't think that life is for him, and his
Speaker 1: dad and stuff pressure him to be like, yeah, had
Speaker 1: some issues like because like his dad went to jail.
Speaker 1: His uncle who's very close to jail, also and he
Speaker 1: was like, well, what if being a criminal is like
Speaker 1: genetic or something like that. He had those he was
Speaker 1: just a young kid. He got his powers. Peter got
Speaker 1: his powers at fifteen. That's always been whatever universe, He's
Speaker 1: always fifteen. Miles got his at thirteen, which is it
Speaker 1: really makes it makes those two years make a big difference.
Speaker 1: And he was always like, well, you know, my dad
Speaker 1: and my uncle like idolized them and stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: but they went down this wrong path. My father shaped up,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know his uncle, his uncle still
Speaker 1: kind of a criminal. He's the Prowler, Prowler of the
Speaker 1: Ultimate Universe. It was a high tech thief he steal,
Speaker 1: which is how Miles because his powers. The Prowler is
Speaker 1: stealing some stuff from Oscorp. One of the Spiders, number
Speaker 1: forty two for Jackie Robinson. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think so honestly, I honestly, I will say they
Speaker 1: have made like nice little references like that, Like, for example,
Speaker 1: I bring this up a lot. One of my favorite
Speaker 1: black Panther runs the most Dangerous Man Alive. When he
Speaker 1: is in Hell's kitchen, he's there as Mr Okonko, which
Speaker 1: is the one of the main characters and Things Fall
Speaker 1: Apart a Nigerian uh novel, which is really great. Um
Speaker 1: I read that in high school. Yeah, I did too.
Speaker 1: I only got aware of it when out the roots
Speaker 1: to the album. You're like, all right, cool, I did
Speaker 1: it too because I had this English assignment which like
Speaker 1: looking like I was like, oh, that was a pretty
Speaker 1: tight one. It was like you they wanted you to
Speaker 1: read a story written by author from your you know,
Speaker 1: heritage nationality, So Ginua Chebe is Nigerian Ebo And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, no brainer. And my dad was so hyped,
Speaker 1: and it was like the first time I've seen him
Speaker 1: like real excited about something I was doing. And then
Speaker 1: the next day you told him you'd be a stand
Speaker 1: up comedian and he was. And then I look at
Speaker 1: this jack of buzz tattoo, right yeah, yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: like throw away like the lab code he had things. Doctor,
Speaker 1: just who frumpled it up? Like how Spider Man be
Speaker 1: leave in his uniform? He walked away in the rain, Doctor,
Speaker 1: No more. So, let's jump into this deep dive real quick,
Speaker 1: just to get the first bit out of the way
Speaker 1: before the break. Miles Moronles is a fictional comic book Superhero,
Speaker 1: appearing in publications by the American publisher Marvel Comics. We
Speaker 1: all know Marvel, as Crystal calls them, and it actually
Speaker 1: cracks me up. I love that she's calls him Marvel character. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as one of the characters known as Spider Man. The
Speaker 1: character was created in two thousand eleven by writer Brian
Speaker 1: Michael Bindis and artist Sarah Picelli, with Bndess and marvel
Speaker 1: then editor in chief Axel Alonzo, drawing inspiration from both
Speaker 1: then U S President Barack Obama and American actor rapper
Speaker 1: Donald Glover. I feel like they add Barack just to
Speaker 1: make it sound like it has more more. It's really
Speaker 1: like it Donald Glover because like Barack was president, was there,
Speaker 1: and like when the mixing and and and the whole
Speaker 1: idea was bubbling, it was Donald Glover. Like, it's funny
Speaker 1: that they add Barack there. I think it's kind of corny.
Speaker 1: But it was after a It really at that time
Speaker 1: everything black and positive had something to do with BARACKO.
Speaker 1: But it was oh a year, so I'd say, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really was Donald Glover. And you know, if you
Speaker 1: wonder why, he's like, why do they sound so sure?
Speaker 1: The fuse was lit after Donald Glover in an interview,
Speaker 1: said how one time he mentioned that he would love
Speaker 1: to play Spider Man and he just was targeted by
Speaker 1: racist trolls. And you can tell it was two thousand
Speaker 1: eleven because this was such a new idea to be
Speaker 1: rais who would think that people in two thousand eleven
Speaker 1: and this day and age would be racist on the internet.
Speaker 1: But but like it was that was the big thing.
Speaker 1: It was like he was like every day, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I went on line and I would just
Speaker 1: be you know, it's like you'd never be Spider Man. Inward,
Speaker 1: it is that. And he said that that didn't get
Speaker 1: to him. What really got to him was one guy
Speaker 1: who like tried to come at him and was like, hey, look, Donald,
Speaker 1: the reason that you know there would never be a
Speaker 1: black Spider Man is because you know, there aren't any
Speaker 1: black kids like that. And he was like that got
Speaker 1: to him more than just the blatant racism, because like,
Speaker 1: someone really doesn't believe that there could be a kid
Speaker 1: in New York who doesn't have a father and had
Speaker 1: an uncle die, who is really in a science like
Speaker 1: and I and I oftentimes repeat that with on paper,
Speaker 1: that's a black character. Like you'd be like, that's ah,
Speaker 1: that's that's uh Patrece Parker. Right, if you told me
Speaker 1: that and told me about if you pitched that character
Speaker 1: with my eyes closed, you said no, father, like sadly,
Speaker 1: I was saying, okay, yeah, I mean, well, it's funny
Speaker 1: because it is. Not to harp on this fact, but
Speaker 1: it's a common star type. But lots of times when
Speaker 1: stereotypes like that work in the favor of like lending
Speaker 1: a new character, people like oh no that no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like it's it's used to put us down. But when
Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, this Peter Parker kid, actually you
Speaker 1: know that that is like something right we can kind
Speaker 1: of relate to. It's like, no, no, that's ours. But overall, though,
Speaker 1: I think the way that they introduced smiles, I think
Speaker 1: they try really hard to give him parents, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, which I really liked, and get him
Speaker 1: into like charter school and stuff like that, because that
Speaker 1: weighs heavily on him. Like you're thirteen years old, you
Speaker 1: got bit by a day in Spider and you got
Speaker 1: all these weird powers and all the stuff, but you're
Speaker 1: just trying to keep your head down and make sure
Speaker 1: you don't get kicked out of the school. I literally
Speaker 1: on some real stuff. I cried when I read the
Speaker 1: issue where he gets into the school and his parents
Speaker 1: are super happy that he's going to actually have a
Speaker 1: future and stuff. He's not gonna have to go down
Speaker 1: the path his dad, David, is gonna have to do
Speaker 1: whatever his mom was doing, because this mom seem to
Speaker 1: be accomplished woman. But the bottom line as it's easier
Speaker 1: for women of color a lot of the time. Obviously
Speaker 1: they have thrown travails, but a dude of color looks
Speaker 1: like a lion in the office of a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like his brother, and
Speaker 1: they find out later his dad went to shield and
Speaker 1: did all this stuff after his criminal pass. So it's
Speaker 1: like he's hiding a dope secret agent thing from his kid,
Speaker 1: not just any sort of criminality. He's hiding it in
Speaker 1: the form of like, oh, I'll just make you I'll
Speaker 1: just let you think I used to be a criminal,
Speaker 1: but actually I used to save the world, like every Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't want it. He wants a kid to
Speaker 1: be a regular kid. It's something that Peter Parker never
Speaker 1: really got you know, he actually, like Peter just went
Speaker 1: head on and being a superhero and stuff. But Myles
Speaker 1: is like, look, I had these pots for a couple
Speaker 1: of years. I kind of just want to be a
Speaker 1: regular kid, because it's like, I've seen how dangerous being
Speaker 1: a superhero can be, with like everything going on in
Speaker 1: the Ultimate you know, that's the crux of the Spider
Speaker 1: Man mythos, And I feel like that's why it's so
Speaker 1: relatable to a lot of nerds and want so many
Speaker 1: people because everyone can think of being overwhelmed in school
Speaker 1: trying to balance everything, so to imagine also having superpowers,
Speaker 1: as cool as that be, you can plainly see that, like,
Speaker 1: imagine that a kid. Who are you going to relate
Speaker 1: more to the billionaire who used his billions to make
Speaker 1: a dope suit, the guy who got blasted with science
Speaker 1: and turns into her East, or this kid who's just
Speaker 1: trying to make it all work. Like that's that's just
Speaker 1: hands down one of the reasons I can relate to
Speaker 1: the kid who can make it all work, because those
Speaker 1: other two things would get me to die. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no bomb that's gonna explode around you and you're
Speaker 1: gonna get magic at all, You're gonna die. But in
Speaker 1: the back of your head and you're like, I hope, yeah,
Speaker 1: I still want my mutant powers to manifest, Like to
Speaker 1: this day, to just take out the radiation smock, you
Speaker 1: have to make a fist and just want cloths to
Speaker 1: pop out and stuff like that. I mean, that's kind
Speaker 1: of why I love my hero academia so much, because
Speaker 1: that's my biggest fears that powers do exist and I
Speaker 1: just don't have them, just like oh you're part yeah,
Speaker 1: And I honestly know that they exist because Tony Robbins
Speaker 1: has a career and you say bolt like in the
Speaker 1: same we're living in the world where there's a dude
Speaker 1: who's faster than everybody. Nobody's checking his meta gene. He's
Speaker 1: just way fast and everybody always just fast enough to win.
Speaker 1: That's dash, you know what I'm saying That that's like
Speaker 1: some real He pulls back and like and like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to disk Tony Robbins, but that dude sucks
Speaker 1: and the whole stylist chump and he's trait bawling because
Speaker 1: he has stadiums and people come hear him be stupid
Speaker 1: and then they went across some coals and they give
Speaker 1: him money. That's powers. I don't care what do you think.
Speaker 1: That's powers. That's my favorite sequence of words, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to dis him, but he sucks. Right, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll get into when Males Morales first appeared and get
Speaker 1: this whole thing started right after these mess welcome back
Speaker 1: to you still got Ed Greer and Aaron out here,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about how Miles Morales first appeared
Speaker 1: in Ultimate Fallout number four, which was dated August two
Speaker 1: thousand eleven, which followed the death of Peter Park. As
Speaker 1: you heard of us say earlier. So as an Africa
Speaker 1: you know teenager Miles Uh is the second Spider Man
Speaker 1: to appear in Ultimate Marvel obviously, the first being Pizza
Speaker 1: and Uh and Uh in the Ultimate Universe up until
Speaker 1: like you know, the mainstream Marvel Universe aka six, when
Speaker 1: six kind of smushed him in there. And we'll get
Speaker 1: into that later. Although Miles is featured in the Ultimate
Speaker 1: Comics Spider Man comic book series, he's not the lead
Speaker 1: in the Ultimate Spider Man TV series, which debuted in
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve because Disney XD was scared Uh yeah.
Speaker 1: Now they're see in mad Racks because he is the
Speaker 1: main cast in this feature film Spider Man into the
Speaker 1: Spider Verse, which have y'all seen it yet? Not yet?
Speaker 1: I haven't either, not yet. We're behind the embargo, yeah
Speaker 1: we yeah, we're behind embargo. All we got nothing to
Speaker 1: but I mean, but then y'all send it. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to see it
Speaker 1: on the eleven. I'm yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm going
Speaker 1: to a press Greeny I think the same day. Actually, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: so I might see you there. And I just want
Speaker 1: to make it clear I I haven't seen it yet,
Speaker 1: but if you are a person who knows all about
Speaker 1: Miles Morales and you watch the trailer, you see that
Speaker 1: they do a lot of things that are are canonized,
Speaker 1: and but they do it fresh in a quick way.
Speaker 1: Uh in there. So I'm looking forward to seeing, like
Speaker 1: the abbreviation of it. But I just wanted to touch
Speaker 1: on when he did come out, and or rather when
Speaker 1: the Ultimate Marvel Ultimate Comics line with Peter Parker came out.
Speaker 1: One of the things they did to try to differentiate
Speaker 1: himself was to make him like have long hair and
Speaker 1: be a little more emo. But over the course of time,
Speaker 1: it was to me always to me, it was just
Speaker 1: they were just doing the stories over again and just's
Speaker 1: refitting his villains with different sort of looking stuff and
Speaker 1: blah blah. I think they really committed to the idea
Speaker 1: of the Ultimate line on a certain level. Besides, besides
Speaker 1: Ultimate um the Ultimates, Ultimates is different than Avengers, and
Speaker 1: Ultimate Spider Man with Miles as the lead is different
Speaker 1: than Ultimate Spider Man or Regular Spider Man. Those two
Speaker 1: books are the most different and ultimate of them, which
Speaker 1: is why Ultimate is the basically Marvel so Sema cinematic
Speaker 1: universe and Spider Man is getting his own movie. They
Speaker 1: were the things that survived the Ultimate x Man did not.
Speaker 1: They started, it started off good and then it just
Speaker 1: went way off the rails. Ultimate x Man was just
Speaker 1: like and I also think that towards the end Ultimates
Speaker 1: went off the rails because Jeff Lobe was, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was going through some stuff and uh it appeared on
Speaker 1: the page. Well, he took his his his life problems
Speaker 1: were definitely showing a phone the page and like it was,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was a weird thing because
Speaker 1: like I'm a huge comic book fan and I'm a
Speaker 1: completist too, so that makes it worse. So like I
Speaker 1: kind of have to get this thing, and I just
Speaker 1: I gave up towards the end of it. I was
Speaker 1: just I can't do that. I could, I could mess
Speaker 1: with they had. They had a mute black panther with
Speaker 1: like Adam claws coming out of the back of his hands,
Speaker 1: but they're a real short and was like bulls eye
Speaker 1: at this point, yeah, which almost I kind of dug
Speaker 1: that for a second, like he was flicking his fingernails
Speaker 1: and people they killed his fail blady flicked his fingernails
Speaker 1: at him. I was like, that's hardcore. But one of
Speaker 1: the things that was really dope about Miles was like
Speaker 1: they let him have his Uncle Ben moment. His Uncle
Speaker 1: Ben moment was Spider Man dying at the hands of
Speaker 1: the Green Goblin and cops, which was very convoluted, like
Speaker 1: he got beat up by the Green Goblin and then
Speaker 1: got shot by some cops because it's too slow from
Speaker 1: getting beat up like old man. Y'all, y'all chose the
Speaker 1: death of the wrong Spider Man. I guess we're just
Speaker 1: getting too deep. But yeah, so the bottom line is
Speaker 1: like that one him having a feeling that if I
Speaker 1: had a bean Spidery or sought out some training or
Speaker 1: did some Spider stuff instead of being scared little bit,
Speaker 1: I could have helped Spider Man specifically, And so he
Speaker 1: kind of that's his uncle Ben, and I think that
Speaker 1: makes the comics dope for that section, you know. And
Speaker 1: then he has some adventures. You got little powers like
Speaker 1: the camouflage power. Yeah, last power. Did they read that
Speaker 1: or does he know that's no, he still has them
Speaker 1: and they don't use it as much depending on you know,
Speaker 1: it feels like that's kind of like the iron fist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, even more you whip it out the less
Speaker 1: kind of like it's kind of like Gambits powers. Like
Speaker 1: Gambit has, he doesn't always just charge things up with
Speaker 1: energy and make him explode. He has a power that's
Speaker 1: like called hypnotic charm, where if you don't know about it,
Speaker 1: he can just basically persuade you to do anything. But
Speaker 1: because he's so charming, depending on the writer, no one
Speaker 1: mentions it. You know what, I must be well, in
Speaker 1: more ways than one, I'm job of the Hut because
Speaker 1: in mind, tricks don't work on me. I ain't never
Speaker 1: been a gambit. Mr and Mrs X is a really
Speaker 1: good book right now. I bet it is. It's because
Speaker 1: Rogue is cool and she can save that fool like Beyonce,
Speaker 1: but like jay Z is cool. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's just like I know, I used to
Speaker 1: be a big gambit stand and then he was bad
Speaker 1: and Marvel versus Capcom and I'd let him go. Like
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, if you can't be good
Speaker 1: in fighting games, I can't deal with you, because you know,
Speaker 1: Iron Man is out here bodying people on the regular.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it was like, um so the we
Speaker 1: basically discussed how they kind of swapped out the Spider Man.
Speaker 1: It was it was a great story arc that happened,
Speaker 1: and that was kind of what was cool about The
Speaker 1: Ultimate Uh, even though I kind of gave it flak
Speaker 1: for not like really quote unquote really doing it, Ultimates
Speaker 1: was a space where you could try new things, and
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of was like the n x
Speaker 1: T for all my wrestling heads for because the stuff
Speaker 1: that worked it seemed like they kind of trickled over,
Speaker 1: like uh, six one six ended up with a black
Speaker 1: Nick Fury, But I think that had more to do
Speaker 1: with the Ultimate Nick Fury launching into the Cinematic Universe
Speaker 1: and then this new thing which I will probably ran
Speaker 1: about in the end where they want to homogenize the
Speaker 1: comic book universe with the cinematic universe. But how they
Speaker 1: introduced the Black Nick Fury in six one six dumb, dumb,
Speaker 1: He's he's He's Nick. It literally is the Kurt Angle.
Speaker 1: What's his face? Yeah, it's basically my black son. What
Speaker 1: you thought of k I thought a strom Thurman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, let's pull it back. We're getting too nervous,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like some people like, wait, wait, that's
Speaker 1: a whole another part. They have to look up actual
Speaker 1: human history from this comic book stuff. That's a wind universe. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah so but but Myles moralest what they did
Speaker 1: in the in the Ultimate Universe. Um, And I don't
Speaker 1: know if we do. We have to keep it to
Speaker 1: the end, because I do want to talk about how
Speaker 1: not about the Cinematic Universe homogenation, but like how they
Speaker 1: try to fold him from his adventures from the Ultimate
Speaker 1: Line into the Marvel universe. It's basically as stupid as
Speaker 1: that Nick Fury thing. It was basically as stupid. It
Speaker 1: was a press move because like that Marvel has events.
Speaker 1: If you don't know that Marvel has events, they have
Speaker 1: a lot of them, especially recently. These are just big
Speaker 1: comic book moments where they have like big crossovers and
Speaker 1: they at the end of them there's consequences and then
Speaker 1: there's like things that happened that affect the rest of
Speaker 1: the universe. There was it was called Secret Wars. Was it?
Speaker 1: Secret Wars? Is basically, hey Miles, we're bringing you over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically you know what I called it. I called it
Speaker 1: like you know how like, Okay, there's maybe some nerds
Speaker 1: don't like sports ball, but when a team just decides
Speaker 1: to get crappy for a long time so they can
Speaker 1: lose a bunch and go hire in the drafting, that's
Speaker 1: exactly what they tanked the universe so they can trust
Speaker 1: the process and draft. Because the storyline was basically, the
Speaker 1: different earths in the Marvel universe, we're colliding with each other,
Speaker 1: and then they all collected. They all collided, and then
Speaker 1: there was like one Earth with every universe on it,
Speaker 1: and Dr Doom was the ruler. He was the god yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the human torch was the sun. It was weird. This
Speaker 1: is this is how they simultaneously got rid of the
Speaker 1: Fantastic Four and brought Miles Morales over to the main universe.
Speaker 1: It was a long and convoluted storyline and it made
Speaker 1: no sense. It was it was like it was funny
Speaker 1: because people didn't know what to make of it. It It
Speaker 1: didn't seem like people liked it, but people were like,
Speaker 1: I think I know what their game is, so we're
Speaker 1: rocking with it. And here's some important things I want
Speaker 1: to note, because you know, when we talk comics, i'd
Speaker 1: like to link up the cinematic stuff with significance that
Speaker 1: you might have missed if this is your first time
Speaker 1: hearing it or seeing it. So first off and foremost,
Speaker 1: I want to, like, you know, highlight the exact thing
Speaker 1: mentioned that that been this kind of credits Donald Glover
Speaker 1: four and it was actually seeing him um in community.
Speaker 1: In the episode Anthropology one on one, Donald Glover is
Speaker 1: wearing Spiderman pajamas and it was a reference to the
Speaker 1: event we were seeing and Bundi said that he looked
Speaker 1: fantastic and he saw him in the costume and thought
Speaker 1: I would like to read that book and he made it.
Speaker 1: So there's some stuff this is done that I've been like,
Speaker 1: not really messical, but him doing that, him like actively,
Speaker 1: he like bund This was at the point he was
Speaker 1: like that dude at marveled that he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Spider Man's black nap. He took that kind of power.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well I'm gonna make a black
Speaker 1: Spider Man and he was like all right, cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And him using his power for that is why like
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, you're good in my book. You
Speaker 1: can I definitely agree with that. But and one thing
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to push back in any way. But
Speaker 1: it was also the perfect storm. That's the perfect door
Speaker 1: because that that ultimate Peter Peter Parker was getting pretty whacketty.
Speaker 1: They were doing the Clones saga, and that's what I'm saying, right,
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't They went deep into the road the
Speaker 1: decks of wackness, and they was trying to find some
Speaker 1: some new stuff to flip and bounce and it wasn't cool.
Speaker 1: So then so it was a perfect like this book's failing.
Speaker 1: If we do this Black Spider Man, everybody hates it.
Speaker 1: So what you remember Marvel used to launch a line
Speaker 1: every minute that and and for some reason still every
Speaker 1: time we touch on this, someone that got beat at me.
Speaker 1: Every last time I ranted about this on the house
Speaker 1: stuff where it's network it was on. Was like, guys,
Speaker 1: but they were launching so many things, but nobody was
Speaker 1: reading that Black Panther run. And then they canceled it
Speaker 1: on your boy, I like straight ripped it out your boys.
Speaker 1: Pull is still mad about that forever. Don't act like
Speaker 1: you like Black Panther now, y'all, because like Black Panther
Speaker 1: has some great books. He has some great but like
Speaker 1: because nobody was reading it. Well, there was an oversaturation
Speaker 1: of comics at the time. There was, like I think,
Speaker 1: especially at this time that we're talking about about five
Speaker 1: Wolverine comics. You had so many Blades in the stands.
Speaker 1: You had you had the Wolverine, you had Wolverine. In
Speaker 1: the next twenty three, you had Dock in everyone remember
Speaker 1: in Actually I'm like Decking more than I was rocking
Speaker 1: with Deck. Like I could see that now between X
Speaker 1: twenty three and deck and I like X twenty three
Speaker 1: because her storyline is more rich. They skipped a big
Speaker 1: portion of her history from like the n y X series,
Speaker 1: which is basically her origin story. And then she had
Speaker 1: another comment from that deck and I liked. And then
Speaker 1: they put him on the Dark Avengers and made him
Speaker 1: Dark Wolverine, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, Well, it's
Speaker 1: just funny to me. It's funny to me how often
Speaker 1: Marvel makes some weird legacy version of their characters, because
Speaker 1: if you think about it, DC really started that stuff.
Speaker 1: DC started Booby Doole and Flash d C has had
Speaker 1: legacy characters all the way back to the fifties. THU,
Speaker 1: because like Flash, Barry Allen is a legacy character, he's
Speaker 1: the second Flash. Marvel is just now getting into legacy characters.
Speaker 1: And even still they still don't know how to nurture
Speaker 1: those characters, right because they're bringing Wolverine back, you know.
Speaker 1: And let me go up on a tiny ramp. Hot clause,
Speaker 1: hot clause, You got hot, Your clause could cut through anything.
Speaker 1: But now the hot not a hot, not a hot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the stupidest thing I've never I've never not lot
Speaker 1: of comic book based on the cover, but once I
Speaker 1: saw those yellow claws come out of it, I'm not
Speaker 1: buying that. Basically for those once, I feel like we're
Speaker 1: going to be doing a lot of sidebars because there's
Speaker 1: just three thick nerds in here. In here man, but
Speaker 1: dock In is Wolverine son. You can nowhere by his
Speaker 1: third clause that comes from then it made no sense
Speaker 1: that that was like very just like in a bad spot,
Speaker 1: like like' just how does this work? Like I get
Speaker 1: XE hear third clause in her foot, I get that,
Speaker 1: but deck and having his right underneath his wrist, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: that's just somebody thought that look cool. And what's up
Speaker 1: of comic books and everything coming out your wrist? Yeah,
Speaker 1: things to come out. And if you didn't know, X
Speaker 1: three is basically a Clona Wolverine and adoptive daughter and
Speaker 1: they kind of exist. It was when it was classes
Speaker 1: and they had so many actually, and I hate and
Speaker 1: I hate being a guy to say actually actually he
Speaker 1: didn't say, so, it's not it's X one of these
Speaker 1: recognized as his sister, Sir clowns, that's his sister. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just that paternal relationship starts to show because they're he's
Speaker 1: older than her, but right, he's a he's an older brother.
Speaker 1: But that's there. They're more siblings than anything. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and this was like Sun's season as well, because
Speaker 1: just to take a hop to another franchise, this is
Speaker 1: right around when Damian started popping up in DC and
Speaker 1: Damien had a rough go at it because he was bad.
Speaker 1: Then it was kind of good. And then they killed him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: once people started liking him, they Jason totted him and
Speaker 1: just which is so weird because like, honestly, I know
Speaker 1: we're supposed to talking about Miles, but that run was
Speaker 1: interesting to me because they had uh, Dick Grayson playing
Speaker 1: Batman because Batman was lost in space and time and
Speaker 1: Dick Grayson had to watch Damian every second of every
Speaker 1: day because damianould literally chops about his head off. Dudes.
Speaker 1: He was just was like, it was like good cop back.
Speaker 1: It was the little kid. It was the perfect wrench
Speaker 1: to throw in the Batman's storyline because Batman also was
Speaker 1: getting still because they had twenty Batman's. They had Black Batman,
Speaker 1: they had bat Girl, they had they had Batman Incorporated
Speaker 1: with Bruce Wayne wanted a Batman in every country. They
Speaker 1: had Batman react World. I know it's been known that
Speaker 1: Batman has a big ego, but when you want one
Speaker 1: of you and every every let's dude think he McDonald
Speaker 1: basically he franchise Batman. He was just like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a Starbucks Batman, every blood two for
Speaker 1: five batter ranks coming around, you know, like mcribs, Like
Speaker 1: DC was really trying to sell toys with that because
Speaker 1: everybody had a different suit, right, all right, so let's
Speaker 1: really we really well, let's come back to that. So
Speaker 1: let's come back to Miles, and let's just go straight
Speaker 1: to the basics. So we explained kind of the origins
Speaker 1: of that and kind of why business Mate has happened.
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about Miles. Miles Morales. He was
Speaker 1: born and raised in Brooklyn, New York City, and he
Speaker 1: was the thirteen year old son of an African American
Speaker 1: father and a Puerto Rican mother. That was something that
Speaker 1: was cool too, because I like that they're like, we're
Speaker 1: not just gonna make him just the black kid. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make a man for Latino, get a little you know,
Speaker 1: killed two representation bird stuff. Also because Cassada and actually
Speaker 1: Alonso is Cuban, I think is some sort of uh
Speaker 1: Latin X person. So the bottom line is they could
Speaker 1: see that. But then you know, the black thing was
Speaker 1: to make him notably different because they've already had Miguel
Speaker 1: O'Hara from he was the first Latino Spider Man, Miguel O'Hara.
Speaker 1: And also, this is just something that I saw. It
Speaker 1: was just like the diversity of New York because having
Speaker 1: a black dad and a Puerto Rican mom is a
Speaker 1: very common thing like cities like New York, Chicago and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, all right, if they're going to be in
Speaker 1: New York, let's let's make it as New York as possible,
Speaker 1: you know. And speaking of which, as far as we
Speaker 1: talked about the cinemaon accident, we even talked about this.
Speaker 1: They do gang a bunch of stuff from Miles, this
Speaker 1: interpretation of being Spider Man and went in Homecoming like
Speaker 1: his big old friend that I thought. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we get Miles in this and Donald Glover actually plays Probler,
Speaker 1: which is a nice perfect just bawled up No at Miles.
Speaker 1: It's pretty beautiful. Yeah, because you've got the person who
Speaker 1: inspired Miles playing Miles is you know, and we know
Speaker 1: that there is a Miles in the Marvel cinematic universe
Speaker 1: because when he webs him up. He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want those kinds of weapons in my town.
Speaker 1: I got a nephew here. Yeah, so I'm like, boom,
Speaker 1: we got him. Yeah, they set it up. And I
Speaker 1: mean and that you know, the back we even we're
Speaker 1: doing with the Secret World Hubbub is we're already creating
Speaker 1: a world where Peter Parker and Miles can co exist.
Speaker 1: So who knows what's going to happen in two in
Speaker 1: the PS four game, we got Miles already in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely so uh and and so getting to everybody getting cinematic, Uh,
Speaker 1: the inner the Spider Verse has a version of the
Speaker 1: story that we know from the Ultimate line, but also
Speaker 1: there and and and putting in the Spider Verse which
Speaker 1: the Spider get an event, you know, and and uhasically
Speaker 1: basically these dudes, this guy Moreland and these dudes from
Speaker 1: another dimension that the Inheritors. Yeah, the Inheritors eat Spider people.
Speaker 1: So if you have Spider powers or your Spider totem
Speaker 1: in any reality, they will come after you. So there's
Speaker 1: a Spider Man who is a Captain Universe. He's got
Speaker 1: to have Captain Universe powers, and he's basically all powerful. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a Spider Ham, Spider Han, Spider Gwyn, Sydney Moon.
Speaker 1: It's like they have different Spider Man for different unions,
Speaker 1: Like Uncle Ben is a Spider Man, there's anime Spider Man.
Speaker 1: There's like even the Spider Man meme is part of
Speaker 1: this Spider verse. They include each in every version of
Speaker 1: Spider Man that you can possibly think of. And yes,
Speaker 1: Spider Hamp is a pig and it's hilarious. They have
Speaker 1: Spider Monkey, they have Spider Wolf. I thought it was
Speaker 1: telling Harken back to that ultimate line of Captain America,
Speaker 1: being like, there's not a Negro Captain whatever. They have
Speaker 1: a thing where Miles has an adventure with Old School
Speaker 1: Spider Man and when he pulls off his mask to
Speaker 1: show that he's black, Old School Spider Man goes, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, e're a and then I go, oh, man,
Speaker 1: maybe old School Spider Man is kind of old school
Speaker 1: and bad way it's head. He goes a teenager, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they hit you with one of them. I'm like, oh no,
Speaker 1: and then they get like, okay, yeah they got us.
Speaker 1: They played with our emotions, and we'll talk about how
Speaker 1: they played with our emotions even more after these messages.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. Still sitting here with Aaron Powell
Speaker 1: and my man Ed Greer holding it down. This has
Speaker 1: been a fun one we've been It's been like an
Speaker 1: open conversation dropping facts instead of going you know, in
Speaker 1: the normal order. But that's what happens when you know,
Speaker 1: when we're tapping in. It feels like instead of an
Speaker 1: episode where we're falling along with an expert, we have
Speaker 1: three passionate expense So you know, sorry, follow this one's
Speaker 1: a little harder for you to fall along. I implore
Speaker 1: you to tweet us. We will keep the conversation going on.
Speaker 1: But I feel like we're doing a good job of
Speaker 1: like weaving in the top and bottom. But you know,
Speaker 1: one thing we didn't touch on, and I did say
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about playing with emotions, is how
Speaker 1: people reacted to Miles and and once again, this was
Speaker 1: another thing that we were all so luckily able to
Speaker 1: experience live and direct. And it was funny when you know,
Speaker 1: while like Stanley gave it the okay thumbs up and
Speaker 1: people like us really loved it, you had those fans
Speaker 1: out there that do what they do anytime any diversity
Speaker 1: initiative launches a diverse character, switches up or red cons
Speaker 1: and add something. You had people complaining that you know,
Speaker 1: this is just a move for for political correctness and
Speaker 1: and you know you're just trying to check on PC,
Speaker 1: and you know there's many takes that people have, many
Speaker 1: responses and minds is always yep, so ok yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's we want to be represented. So it's like yelling
Speaker 1: at a dude in the tesla, like you're just trying
Speaker 1: to save the environment. Yeah. The one the one thing
Speaker 1: that I always brought at and on that regard is
Speaker 1: when they go, Okay, you're just doing this for diversity,
Speaker 1: You're just doing this for whatever reason. Everything is just
Speaker 1: for some reason. Everything is just for some agenda. And
Speaker 1: up until very recently, the agenda has been I don't
Speaker 1: want to call it white supremacy, but let's call it
Speaker 1: white a okay, you know what I mean. I like, hey, okay,
Speaker 1: I like to call it that. The one rule that
Speaker 1: most waves of business go back it is called I'm white.
Speaker 1: And I say, so, that's usually that's usually the reason
Speaker 1: for a lot of things. And then when we we
Speaker 1: get something like it's a comic book character, it's a
Speaker 1: fictional character, and he had your own separate but equal
Speaker 1: universe for a long time. Want exactly they eased you
Speaker 1: into it. He didn't show up with your mom. I'm
Speaker 1: your new daddy the East. Well, here's the funny thing
Speaker 1: about it, and here's my like less cynical way of
Speaker 1: doing it, because I try, and you know, as I
Speaker 1: get deeper in the nerves space and as we become
Speaker 1: more talking points, I try and to like take a
Speaker 1: little bit of snap energy because you know, rest in peace.
Speaker 1: John Schnapp, he always, like one thing I want to
Speaker 1: take from him is just his ability to kind of
Speaker 1: like try and like ease you into it and not
Speaker 1: be the DMX of nerdom, which I am usually want
Speaker 1: to do. And the way I look at it is it, honestly,
Speaker 1: if we're not being just straight up cynical and we're
Speaker 1: just being facts for facts. Before a certain time, media
Speaker 1: was made for white people. You the you knew you
Speaker 1: were creating it for a majority white person. You know
Speaker 1: that the only people who needed to relate to it
Speaker 1: is white people. But what we all know now, especially
Speaker 1: as all of us are creators, We are writers, we
Speaker 1: are actors, We we work in this industry industry. So
Speaker 1: this isn't speculative. This isn't speculation, This is just facts.
Speaker 1: When you are creating art, you're trying to touch your audience,
Speaker 1: You're trying to touch your viewers, and you're gonna do
Speaker 1: everything you can to make them feel included. You're gonna
Speaker 1: do everything you can to look on that screen and
Speaker 1: have them go, oh, that can be me. And you know,
Speaker 1: for so long a lot of people of color had
Speaker 1: to look at these white people on the screen and
Speaker 1: and find themselves in them. And in the end we
Speaker 1: made it work. And now we're getting to a place
Speaker 1: where you're getting a lot of creatives who are like,
Speaker 1: let's switch it up. Let's, you know, create this character
Speaker 1: who you know black kids can look up to and
Speaker 1: go like, that's me. But it's the old quote about
Speaker 1: how equality seems like oppression. You haven't, you know, get
Speaker 1: it out. And I think that that when they see
Speaker 1: they don't realize what it was like for me as
Speaker 1: little kid, to be like, look it up to thor thor,
Speaker 1: don't look like nobody has been in my family history
Speaker 1: years And I got to see myself and there's North
Speaker 1: do with a belt made of cow hide and all
Speaker 1: this jazz. But you can't see yourself in a Brooklyn
Speaker 1: teenager when you probably was a teen in Brooklyn. Have
Speaker 1: these people who are balking at Miles lived Miles his
Speaker 1: life and say they can't see it themselves in him
Speaker 1: because of his skin, And I think that's that's that's
Speaker 1: a weird situation. But like you said, snap energy, I
Speaker 1: feel as though it's also the fact that it's belying
Speaker 1: that jazz about there is no audience for this when
Speaker 1: I've going into several comic book stores and seeing people
Speaker 1: unbidden like sometimes I've walked into several combook stores and
Speaker 1: had a diversity and comics, uh conversation pop up as
Speaker 1: I walked in the store. I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, it's time to talk about
Speaker 1: diversity in comix and how whack it is. And I'm
Speaker 1: just people. The one of the main talking points they
Speaker 1: say is black people and women and lesbians or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to connect with the Latinos, they don't really
Speaker 1: read comics. That's so so false, and I just love
Speaker 1: for that. That is also part of it. It is
Speaker 1: a business. There is a business reason beyond a lot
Speaker 1: of this diversity, and it is to sell to people
Speaker 1: who are buying comics that do not happen to look
Speaker 1: like regular Parker. Yeah, and lots of times it's just
Speaker 1: dated information and that you just kept using, like the
Speaker 1: example that a black lead, you know, movie can't do
Speaker 1: well overseas, and then which is totally so surprised that
Speaker 1: black panthers this smash hit that is doing well. Look
Speaker 1: at Fast and Furious, which is a black lead movie,
Speaker 1: like get hit whatever you think out of your mind.
Speaker 1: Almost all of those actors in that movie, if they're
Speaker 1: not Latin X people, they're black. The Rock is black.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry people, it's sorry people forget, but look his daddy.
Speaker 1: His name is Dawayne Johnson. D Wayne Johnson. Okay, his
Speaker 1: name is Dawayne Johnson. He is like no matter how
Speaker 1: much they've tried to poke up his I don't think
Speaker 1: he's ever played a black person explicitly on film, but
Speaker 1: Rock is a black dude. He was in a faction
Speaker 1: called the Nation of Domination, based on the Nation of Islam. Well,
Speaker 1: he's doing the new Uh, he's doing the New Schwarzenegger
Speaker 1: where it's like this fool's name is John Matrix and
Speaker 1: he got this thick German accent, but got all the
Speaker 1: clearances with the Delta Force. Oh well, well they do
Speaker 1: that with Dwayne right now. They did John Claude Van
Speaker 1: Damage street Fighter too. Yeah, and I called him Russian
Speaker 1: even though he has not the muscles from Brussels. So
Speaker 1: when when Myles some of the some of the reaction
Speaker 1: to him, Yes, there were some people who definitely balked
Speaker 1: at him. And there were also the people, let's kind
Speaker 1: of talk about some of the people who are just like, well,
Speaker 1: why can't he just have his own thing? Oh, let's yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because there are some people
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, there they yeah, and they and they
Speaker 1: really try to try and make that strong argument of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if he had his own thing, that'd be better than
Speaker 1: just rebranding X y Z. And really it's coming from
Speaker 1: the same place. I think. You know, I think there
Speaker 1: is a corner of people who like it is driven
Speaker 1: by racism, but I think there's another corner of people
Speaker 1: who just don't like change. I think it could even
Speaker 1: if it was like you know, Romy Schwartz and it
Speaker 1: was like just this new Jewish kid who was Spider Man,
Speaker 1: people would be just as mad and it was just
Speaker 1: because they're like, you're changing the thing that I like,
Speaker 1: and for some reason, I'm forgetting that. I always have
Speaker 1: every future iteration of the thing. And what's the funny is,
Speaker 1: like people being mad about Miles Morales, they were actually
Speaker 1: doing that thing that people try and say where it's
Speaker 1: like we are creating this own thing. But now it's
Speaker 1: a problem. It's a problem because like they weren't saying,
Speaker 1: could they create their own thing? With the eight kid Flashes,
Speaker 1: we've had no one. No one's saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: but but we get a black kid flash. Now it's
Speaker 1: a problem. Why can't he have his own thing? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: black dude running fast, kind of racist, but you know
Speaker 1: his name is Wally, which is an old black man. Well,
Speaker 1: are you happy with the first one? That second one
Speaker 1: feel like a reach. We can't think Wallace Wallace Willis
Speaker 1: West Anyway. The thing I was thinking about also is
Speaker 1: giving these legacy characters. Personally, I think I am one
Speaker 1: of the few fans that I love the fact that
Speaker 1: he's Spider Man. I love the fact they had Spider powers,
Speaker 1: but he's more than Spider Man as well. It's almost
Speaker 1: like he's in a situation where Cassandra Caine Batgirl was
Speaker 1: in for a long time. Cassandra Caine as bad Girl
Speaker 1: was for my generation, the best bad girl, and she
Speaker 1: she could do so many things that Barbara Gordon could
Speaker 1: not do as a as a because she was different
Speaker 1: and speak full yeah, full stop. She was different. She
Speaker 1: had a bunch of different stuff, and Myles has so
Speaker 1: many different things. I would love to see him become
Speaker 1: a character kind of like the Scarlet Spider or the
Speaker 1: night Wing situation or something like that. If they did
Speaker 1: that organically, I would not think that was capitulating to
Speaker 1: racism or whatever. I would just think that was like,
Speaker 1: because if he's not gonna be the Spider Man of
Speaker 1: a universe, this whole two Spider Man jazz does weird
Speaker 1: be out? It kind of does. What are you trying
Speaker 1: to do? Is like it would be like if there
Speaker 1: was a Daredevil that fought and this three three acre
Speaker 1: section of Kill's kitchen and then a Dare Deevil that
Speaker 1: was chilling in Manhattan and had better suits and better
Speaker 1: clothes and stuff. That's kind of how they did it
Speaker 1: for a minute. And now Spider Man's a poor bum again.
Speaker 1: They made him lose his company to ground him a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's almost like people forget that what they
Speaker 1: love about Spider Man is their own youth. Yea, their
Speaker 1: own youth. They were sitting on the bed at fourteen
Speaker 1: and that was reading about this white Spider Man going
Speaker 1: through his troubles eating his wheatcakes, and that was their dude,
Speaker 1: that that you know what I'm saying. So basically, the
Speaker 1: Ultimates line and this New Spider Man is a way
Speaker 1: to reconnect Spider Man with being thirteen and fifteen, to
Speaker 1: show us the Spider Man that's thirteen, fifteen, sixteen going
Speaker 1: through little changes and stuff. Meanwhile, we have this older
Speaker 1: Spider Man who's like thirty five basically Peters like in
Speaker 1: his thirties now, and to keep him always broke and
Speaker 1: always having woman trouble stuff you thirty five. He and
Speaker 1: Pete needs to get it together. He has a PhD
Speaker 1: company and stuff. I'm like dock Octopus did everything he
Speaker 1: can to get peace life together and then he threw
Speaker 1: it all the way. That's funny. He really is a superior. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got everything going for Pete. But then like we
Speaker 1: get Miles coming through and it's a fresh character. It's
Speaker 1: a fresh start. It's not. They're not rehashing the same
Speaker 1: stories with them. And although I must say his new
Speaker 1: origin in the six one six is straight up trash.
Speaker 1: They make him, they make him have an uncle Ben,
Speaker 1: that's like this duty just mat oh, I thought you
Speaker 1: were talking about six one six Miles is a six
Speaker 1: one six Miles. We'll let you read that so we
Speaker 1: don't spoil it for you. But the way that Miles
Speaker 1: is introduced and gets that da to be Spider Man
Speaker 1: in the new six one six continuity that they put together,
Speaker 1: it's pretty trash and dumb. But as Aaron said, there
Speaker 1: is a Miles Morales who is not heroic at all,
Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. He there's in the
Speaker 1: Spider Men to Um series. It's about like a five
Speaker 1: issue five six issues mini series and Miles Morales of
Speaker 1: the six six universe. This is a sequel to the
Speaker 1: First Spider Man where Peter Parker from six one six
Speaker 1: meets ultimate uh Universe Miles and they have a lot
Speaker 1: of adventure, have a blue adventure. Then he looks up
Speaker 1: if there's a Miles in the six six universe and
Speaker 1: he finds out turns out this Moles Morales is an
Speaker 1: adult uh, and he went to jail because you know,
Speaker 1: his uncle went to jails. Following to jail, he followed suit. Tragically,
Speaker 1: he was in the hill with Wilson Fisk, Kingpan, who
Speaker 1: he whose life he saved in jail. So Wilson Fisk
Speaker 1: has a life debt to this Miles Morales and they
Speaker 1: are basically just like crime buddies. I guess Wilson Fisk
Speaker 1: is basically Moss Morales of the six one six, the
Speaker 1: older Miles Ralest, he's basically his Chewbacca. Like they just
Speaker 1: rolled ripping arms off hard in jail. They were like
Speaker 1: the homies and stuff and like ripping arms off and
Speaker 1: stuff and just like you know. And then when Wilson
Speaker 1: Fisk got like, if you need anything, I got you,
Speaker 1: and he used Taskmaster to kill his younger self from
Speaker 1: another universe to try to yeah, to try to so yeah. Basically,
Speaker 1: so there is a Miles Morales in the six one
Speaker 1: six that can be explored as a villain character. And
Speaker 1: there's the Smiles Ralest, this young Moles Ralysis in the
Speaker 1: universe as a spider Man, And like I said, I
Speaker 1: would love for them to come up with a fresh
Speaker 1: spider name for him. I would love for the rest
Speaker 1: of those Spider dudes that get killed. Yeah, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I really don't like most of the Spider Man. Most
Speaker 1: of the other Spider dudes are whack. I like the
Speaker 1: Spider Women. Spider Women are awesome, like a lot, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of They need to change some of
Speaker 1: the names because like, uh, there's like four Spider Women. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, like their code names are actually
Speaker 1: Spider Woman. Like there's like four of them right now.
Speaker 1: Silk is different Spider Gwynn coincidence, so it's also Spider Woman.
Speaker 1: Spider Gwen is just the name of the book. But
Speaker 1: she shows out in her own universe, so it's not
Speaker 1: she's in her own universe, so she's not around. There's
Speaker 1: Spider Woman who Jessica drew Spider Woman, um, um, Julie Carpenter,
Speaker 1: and she's like a Clona Peter. Is that the one
Speaker 1: that Yeah, there's two, Jessica drews that there's one that's
Speaker 1: a clone Peter. And then that's the other one who
Speaker 1: went on adventures with her. She went she went on
Speaker 1: Adventures while pregnant, which was awesome. The series was great. Um.
Speaker 1: Then there's Arachne, there's ironya. These are ways can we
Speaker 1: play with this is Spider all, this is all in
Speaker 1: six one six all on the Island of Manhattan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a little bit too much Spider
Speaker 1: in this made. Personally, I don't know how what direction
Speaker 1: we're gonna take this in, but I personally think that
Speaker 1: they should just I gotta say they should reseparate the
Speaker 1: jazz because like Sydney Moon in her own world will
Speaker 1: be sick. They've shown that Sydney Moon on another world
Speaker 1: has a superspy and basically runs the world as a
Speaker 1: doctor Doom type person who has everybody's powers. Sydney Moon
Speaker 1: is one of those characters that, like they just got introduced.
Speaker 1: I was knew that still was awesome because she led
Speaker 1: into the Spider of her storyline and her her origin
Speaker 1: was interesting because she got bit by the same spiders
Speaker 1: Peter got bit by, but she had to get put
Speaker 1: away wherever. That's how they explained how it never came out.
Speaker 1: That's a century thing. Yeah, it was Marvel. But also
Speaker 1: Miles Morallis actually has a thing with Spider Gwan. A
Speaker 1: lot of fans know that he has a little they
Speaker 1: got a little they've been they've been because they're roughly
Speaker 1: the same age, Like she's not aged up like Peter is.
Speaker 1: They're roughly around the same age. And you had a
Speaker 1: little little romance going on and stuff. They saw a
Speaker 1: little bit of their future and stuff too. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's what gives them pauses. They saw that they're supposed
Speaker 1: to get married and when one of the worlds they're
Speaker 1: very much buried, and they got all kind of these
Speaker 1: Afro Latino whatever, Afric Latino Irish future babies. So they
Speaker 1: kind of like if you and I like that as
Speaker 1: a part of Miles and their characters, Like when you
Speaker 1: see your future, do you just embrace it right off
Speaker 1: the bat? Do you do you think, well, maybe I
Speaker 1: need to approach this more organically. What do you think
Speaker 1: about as a possible future? Like the time where he
Speaker 1: saw himself killing Captain America? Yeah, yeah, that the whole
Speaker 1: Civil War too, which was a garbage storyline. I mean,
Speaker 1: I didn't like the fact that they wanted to revisit
Speaker 1: Civil War like there was and there was a movie
Speaker 1: coming out and yeah, and that Civil War wasn't as
Speaker 1: good as the original Civil War, and it was because
Speaker 1: it was rushed. They fell into the trap that I
Speaker 1: feel the c falls into, which is rushing their their
Speaker 1: mythos to try and keep up with like what Marvel does.
Speaker 1: And Marvel was rushing their mythos because they're like, oh man,
Speaker 1: you know, Civil War was a real cool moment for
Speaker 1: comic book fans. I know they'll rush to see this.
Speaker 1: It is like, yeah, but if you build it, like
Speaker 1: imagine if they did Civil War now with how many
Speaker 1: folks were on that uh Infinity War poster that was
Speaker 1: Civil War, that would be the best airport scene ever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, because that airport scene was mad
Speaker 1: empty this time. But we like, well, we talked about
Speaker 1: Spider Verse. Like I said, I think Spider Verse, none
Speaker 1: of us have seen it, but when we know. But
Speaker 1: I do believe from the trailer that day they do
Speaker 1: incorporate things from the common book telling of Miles Prollas.
Speaker 1: And also I think this might be in the same
Speaker 1: way that in my personal opinion, The Dark Knight features
Speaker 1: the best joker I've ever seen. And I understand everybody
Speaker 1: want to add with the Mark Hamill and this and
Speaker 1: not the other, but I'm just saying, for my money,
Speaker 1: that was the first joker. I felt that, Uh, that
Speaker 1: was super cool. Had had his own chaos theory to
Speaker 1: him and all this jazz, and I'll presented a credible
Speaker 1: threat to Batman physically. All those checked those boxes for me,
Speaker 1: and I was fine with that. And that's the best
Speaker 1: one I saw. I think Miles Morales might do something
Speaker 1: like that four Miles in the Spider Verse movie, because
Speaker 1: they allow him to be himself for longer periods of
Speaker 1: time than he even is in his book. I mean,
Speaker 1: some people think he is it's been quoted. He seems
Speaker 1: like a stranger in his own book. They seem up
Speaker 1: getting to the motivations of everybody but him in certain times,
Speaker 1: especially later in the run, you know when they start
Speaker 1: thinking about his place. And I also think that they
Speaker 1: kind of coddle him a little bit, like he does
Speaker 1: he's not smart enough, and I think this is whack,
Speaker 1: but he's not not whack. But I think it's interesting
Speaker 1: that he's not smart in that way enough to make
Speaker 1: his own web shooters, so they give him webshooters and shield.
Speaker 1: But now to alleviate that term, because that might be
Speaker 1: something like, well he's too dumb to make web shooters.
Speaker 1: That's racist. Or something. Now they've given him these weird
Speaker 1: webs that he shoots out of his like fingertips and
Speaker 1: wrists and stuff that he can swing on. It's like
Speaker 1: he's making these weird you know, he looks like best
Speaker 1: genius from that hero Academia. So some of the later
Speaker 1: things that I'm doing with my else I personally think
Speaker 1: are kind of whack. And I hope, like you were
Speaker 1: saying that things that cinematic universe kind of pushes back
Speaker 1: on the comics, and comics push on the movies, I
Speaker 1: hope that the comics will get more like this versions
Speaker 1: of Miles in the movie. Well, I feel like the
Speaker 1: solution of Miles for the future of Miles is super,
Speaker 1: super simple. It's the same way they were able to
Speaker 1: bring back Black Panther with the Vengeance and it be strong.
Speaker 1: You gotta put a black writer behind it, or even
Speaker 1: a Latin X writer, because you need someone writing from truth.
Speaker 1: You're saying that, you know, the main complaint is that
Speaker 1: he's following everyone else's motivations is because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: kind of hard for a white writer to wonder what
Speaker 1: a thirteen year old Afro Latino in a major cities
Speaker 1: motivations are going to be one of the main things
Speaker 1: that Brandon Bank Michael Band this was a misstep, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people's opinion was he had a big
Speaker 1: passage in there where somebody saw his his mask get
Speaker 1: torn off. It was in the ultimate line. Somebody saw
Speaker 1: his mask get torn off towards the bottom and towards
Speaker 1: the shoulders and stuff, and they saw that he had
Speaker 1: black skin under his spider suit. And this lady blogger
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, the Spider Man is of color and
Speaker 1: also saw that. It was like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the black Spider Man. I just want to be
Speaker 1: Spider Man. That's right out. Yeah, that was that was
Speaker 1: I don't see color. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do it.
Speaker 1: But it's it's so interesting because it is, you know,
Speaker 1: just a touch on that. I feel like that has
Speaker 1: been pushed on people of color for so long. It
Speaker 1: was like, you don't want to be the the the
Speaker 1: and insert your race here version of this. You want
Speaker 1: to be, but you do want to be because you
Speaker 1: want people to look up to you, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to be the best black comedian so that other
Speaker 1: little black kids can look up and be like I
Speaker 1: can be a comedian that being said, I don't need
Speaker 1: my peers saying that I'm the best black comedian. Like
Speaker 1: it's it's a nuanced relationship with that type of identity
Speaker 1: that once again, like we said, can't be covered by
Speaker 1: a white writer. Because I can understand why business might
Speaker 1: think like, oh, yeah, you don't want to be known
Speaker 1: as the as the black spider Man. Is like, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be known as the Black spider
Speaker 1: Man to white people, but to black people, I want
Speaker 1: to be known as the Black spider Man. So to
Speaker 1: that blogger who was indeed black, he would have been like, yeah,
Speaker 1: parts of the people. But to but if it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, little miss, you know Janice at HuffPo and
Speaker 1: she was like black spider Man, he'd be like pause.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's a whole another rant that we
Speaker 1: don't have time for, which is about you know, nuance
Speaker 1: and approaching things and how you know this error wokeness
Speaker 1: and trying to be right doesn't allow open discussions about
Speaker 1: nuance because we rushed to have the right answer and
Speaker 1: not actually understand what's being talked about and thinking thinking
Speaker 1: that a lot of this stuff has an answer is
Speaker 1: kind of simple. To know. I mean, we're talking about
Speaker 1: a complex reman being nuance situations. Every situation is different,
Speaker 1: So I just yeah, I would love the champion the
Speaker 1: rit earned to Nuance. Yeah, because there might be another
Speaker 1: three black nerds in here who would be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that because I don't want him to be
Speaker 1: the black and they wouldn't be wrong. That would be
Speaker 1: that's your that's your opinion on it. That's slide Whisper
Speaker 1: didn't get that out, Yeah, I was. I tried to
Speaker 1: ignore it and then correct Yeah, and then it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta gotta look at this failure. Okay,
Speaker 1: what would their parents be? They got like the pants
Speaker 1: up to their imagine this guy, Yeah he got He
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of beat reading poems. He smelled
Speaker 1: like Patuli and like cool water. Right, Why you combined
Speaker 1: both of you? Why you got on too much cologne? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's what that appears with. Yeah. I'm just glad
Speaker 1: that they've given Miles his due and they're allowing for
Speaker 1: Spider Man and Miles to be for the for the
Speaker 1: rest of the universe, for the rest to the world
Speaker 1: to see their relationship. This is me as the Spider
Speaker 1: Man at thirteen, you are Spider Man at thirty five.
Speaker 1: They make a very big point in the trailer to
Speaker 1: show that this Spider Man has done it all, and
Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing to be, like, have that person
Speaker 1: with somebody who doesn't know anything, and but he's also
Speaker 1: a fish out of water. He's in a whole another world.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's the forty eight hours reboot
Speaker 1: that we've always wanted. I never thought it, well, unfortunately
Speaker 1: they're already doing a forty hours reboot, and I'm so
Speaker 1: mad that I'm not already auditioning for so, you know,
Speaker 1: before we go into you know, your plugs, which were
Speaker 1: about to get into right before. I did want to
Speaker 1: mention this because I feel like y'all would agree with me.
Speaker 1: Normally would be like, what are your you know, picks
Speaker 1: of comics to intro you in a Miles. But Miles
Speaker 1: is a pretty young, uh you know, pun intended character
Speaker 1: in the universe, and I think you can't go wrong
Speaker 1: with starting with his original arc and then dipping into
Speaker 1: maybe some Spiderverse stuff if you want to hear some
Speaker 1: of the stuff we're talking about, and then just the
Speaker 1: new arc that starts after Secret Wars. I think you
Speaker 1: could probably skip Secret Wars. You can skip Secret Wars.
Speaker 1: It's just long and convoluted and stuff, but you can. Um.
Speaker 1: They even have a new ongoing series that's about to
Speaker 1: start very soon. UM if you just want to just
Speaker 1: get your feet wet with that as well. It's gonna
Speaker 1: have a new writer, Brian Michael Business is not writing
Speaker 1: this because he's over at DC now. It is the
Speaker 1: first time Miles has ever been written by anybody else. Really,
Speaker 1: he kept for the most part because like in Like
Speaker 1: he was part of the Champions and um, I don't
Speaker 1: think Benness wrote that all and then he was also
Speaker 1: in Um. He's been by other people in other books,
Speaker 1: but for the most part his solo books was always Bundes.
Speaker 1: So this is something. This is basically in the Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it is. It is a writer of color Muslim. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's going to be a spicy tag or it might
Speaker 1: just be a regular one. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: putting stuff on him. Well yeah, well but that's another thing.
Speaker 1: Just last things last, you do get with Miles Morales
Speaker 1: himself and with certain creators of color, you do get
Speaker 1: this whole like you've got to represent everybody. That's one
Speaker 1: of the big things about Black Panther and some of
Speaker 1: the other black heroes that especially in the Marvel But
Speaker 1: it's just like you gotta represent everybody, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I think that nowadays we're getting to
Speaker 1: see that there's different parts of the universe, like you said,
Speaker 1: different different ways to be black, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: there's some monolithic things, so he can represent the young
Speaker 1: Spider Man and the way he wants to be Black
Speaker 1: or afric Latino and so on and so forth. I
Speaker 1: think we're getting to an era of diversity, even amongst
Speaker 1: the diversity, if you know what I mean. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: being black is a very diverse thing in itself, because
Speaker 1: black people in America are different from black people in
Speaker 1: the Caribbean, different from black people in Europe. So everybody
Speaker 1: can get something different from it. You can get like
Speaker 1: Miles is is one of those he's still young. They're
Speaker 1: gonna age him up soon or whenever they feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, Jubilee has been thirteen for forty years, but
Speaker 1: until they decided that you need to have a baby,
Speaker 1: that is like, yeah, now that you believe, like twenty five,
Speaker 1: she adopted a kid. Let's not forget when she was
Speaker 1: a vampire, got a baby, she adopted him as a vampire. Well,
Speaker 1: she adopted as a vampire. Yeah, okay, I am a
Speaker 1: Jubilee fan, so I'm like, I'm cool with her development
Speaker 1: and how she's grown. As we get it. You like
Speaker 1: fireworks and yeah, alright, where can people find y'all? All right? Um?
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