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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: Nori with you our special guest, Mark men Calla. His book,

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Speaker 1: The Way of Miracles, comes out next week, Mark does

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the miracles and whether there was divine

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Speaker 1: providence behind it or not. How many people think God

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Speaker 1: is that divine providence. I suspect a lot of people do, George.

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Speaker 1: I think that that there's so many different religious and

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Speaker 1: spiritual perspectives right now, especially more than ever nowadays. But

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Speaker 1: I think that a majority of people who are of

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Speaker 1: the classically trained religious mind and we're inclined to think

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Speaker 1: that that is the case. And I think that there's

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Speaker 1: another group of people that kind of understands that there's

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Speaker 1: something within them, something deeper, something more powerful within them.

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Speaker 1: They can call a soul, a spirit, a source. And

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Speaker 1: there's a growing number of people that just are tapping

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Speaker 1: into the fact that there's a higher self that can

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Speaker 1: actually do some remarkable things and perhaps to be considered

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Speaker 1: divine as well. I keep thinking the movie It's Wonderful

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Speaker 1: Life with Jimmy Stewart, where he was contemplating doing himself

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Speaker 1: in and they sent down an angel to save him.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the angel Will pretended to be drowning

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Speaker 1: and George Bailey jumped in and saved him. And that's

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Speaker 1: the beginning of a great movie. As you just said,

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Speaker 1: would you consider that a true miracle? The way they

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Speaker 1: handle that, I think it's a beautiful story, and I

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Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of people that can relate

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Speaker 1: similarly to the prospect as so many different spiritual supports.

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Speaker 1: Whether we talk about spirit guides nowadays more than ever,

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Speaker 1: we talk about angels as well. So I do believe

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Speaker 1: that angels and spirit guides are involved in so many

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Speaker 1: different life processes. And I think there's so many people

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Speaker 1: that have had miracle experiences with the help of spirit

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Speaker 1: guides and angels. I think it's more common than ever. Mark.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody gets the miracle. Some people die of cancer,

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Speaker 1: some people have bad luck, some of these things just

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Speaker 1: don't happen for them. Why Well, I think that throughout

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Speaker 1: the course of a life. It's my feeling that we

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Speaker 1: all have miracles at some point in our lives. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we have all all the situations in our

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Speaker 1: lives resolved by miracles. Unfortunately. But I do believe that

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Speaker 1: even the person that didn't have the good fortune of

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Speaker 1: a miracle, say at the end of a given life

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Speaker 1: that ended too short, had other experiences throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of their life while they were in the prime of

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Speaker 1: their life that represented it miracles of some sort of others.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think we've all been bless of miracles

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Speaker 1: and in a variety of different ways and rite of

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Speaker 1: different times in our lives. But that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: it's going to happen all the time to everybody. Is

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Speaker 1: there a little luck involved? Sometimes I think there's a

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Speaker 1: little luck involved there. I suspect that is the case.

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Speaker 1: But I think that what we're what we write about

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Speaker 1: in the book and what we're talking about specifically in

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Speaker 1: this case, from from my experiences, is that I've observed

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Speaker 1: so many different patients at sixty thousand appointments over the

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Speaker 1: last thirty seven years, and again the film bears us out.

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Speaker 1: We've had people who were deemed infertiles had three children since.

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Speaker 1: We've had people who were diagnosed at Parkinson's who who

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Speaker 1: are running three miles a day. There's there's amazing stories

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Speaker 1: in the film and in the book as well, that

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Speaker 1: it bear out the fact that there is clearly something

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Speaker 1: happening at at deeper levels that we have access to

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Speaker 1: if we're to simply tap into it. The film The

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Speaker 1: Way the Miracles is like a who's who of Coast

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Speaker 1: to coast guests including Deepak Chopra, Bruce Slipton. Who else

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Speaker 1: is in there? M Shamany Jane is in it? There

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Speaker 1: is um a number of Rupert Sheldrake is in it. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's a miracle there. You got stabbed at almost to

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Speaker 1: death years ago? Did you know that? That's exactly correct?

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Speaker 1: Manos Capato, this is in it as well. There's a

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Speaker 1: number of really wonderful people. It is definitely who's who,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. Do you have to be religious

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Speaker 1: to accept miracles? I think you have to at least

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Speaker 1: be spiritual, Okay, to have a connection and to have

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Speaker 1: a willingness to accept, expect or created a deeper level

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Speaker 1: is prerequisite. And in the book The Way of Miracles

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Speaker 1: you give techniques to help create a miracle, don't you, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we do again. The key point here is that by

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Speaker 1: developing delta consciousness, and I think considerately there's different brainwave

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Speaker 1: relaxing state, and it's it's super beneficial for your nervous system,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. If you go deeper, you end up in data,

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Speaker 1: the depth of delta brainwave states. And it's my contention

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Speaker 1: exercises in the end of each chapter in the book

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Speaker 1: that help the reader to perform simple exercises breathing exercises,

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Speaker 1: in that environment, that mode, that energy feel where they

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Speaker 1: can actually tap into miracles more readily. Mark. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of prayer. I think prayer is remarkably important

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Speaker 1: part of this whole process. I think prayer moves us

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Speaker 1: beyond rejection of miracles, like I said, a moment ago

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Speaker 1: into it at least an acceptance expectance here a creation level.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people who really are prayer warriors,

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Speaker 1: people who have really gotten accustomed to praying intensively and

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Speaker 1: really believing in their prayer and having a strong positivity

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Speaker 1: about their prayer are creators of miracles. I think they're

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Speaker 1: the people that are making miracles more readily than than

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Speaker 1: those who reject I think that creationists are prayers, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. Would you say that people who are

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Speaker 1: good people generally will experience more miracles than people who

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Speaker 1: technically aren't good? Um No, I don't think so. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's not my experience. I think that the

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Speaker 1: there's there's there's been people who have not necessarily been

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Speaker 1: the greatest of people. And when you think about their

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Speaker 1: experience in their their life record, if you will, But

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Speaker 1: good or bad, I think miracles are available to everybody.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of people who can

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Speaker 1: There's no question about the fact that grace works in

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Speaker 1: strange ways. Well, another great story, great film, a Christmas

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Speaker 1: Carol with Ebenezer Screws. There's a perfect example of someone

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Speaker 1: really is. And I think that happens time and time again.

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Speaker 1: We're going to take calls with Mark next hour here

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Speaker 1: on Coast to coast. And if you have a miracle

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Speaker 1: give that to us too. And what if somebody, though,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think if we were all running

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Speaker 1: everything's on the table. So I think it's it's not

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Speaker 1: What would you like people to learn from the book

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Speaker 1: The way of the miracles. I'd like them to learn

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Speaker 1: willing to go deeper within themselves, and if they're willing

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Speaker 1: If you had to say, miracles occur from either divine providence,

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Speaker 1: don't know that they'd all know that. I just don't

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Speaker 1: to tap into your limitless capabilities. Mark. There have been

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Speaker 1: we have the ability to create miracles for other people. Yes, wow,

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Speaker 1: do they need to know what you're doing? I think

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