1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered. Appreciate a little wrap up of the picks 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Yeah that says it all, doesn't it? 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Right there the big side. Do you think if they 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: took Jimmy Johnson people would have said, well, they must 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: not have liked them that much because they didn't trade 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: up to get him. Angry little dudes. Yeah, he was angry. 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Angry dude. That's my favorite dues. I don't know about 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: anybody else. Well, don't put me in the box of 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: like I'm just the whole. Every graph was great, Like, 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: let me, can I come at you for a second. 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Come on? Maybe two months looking at draft boards and 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: starting to feel like, you know how things should You're 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: all right, you don't have to be that mad about it. Fred, 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: excuse me for a defensive line guy, but he was 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: their quarterback of Houston and Miami. Oh boy, Oh, put 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: down the cigarettes. Paul Paulo's home. He's a chain smoker, 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: just like one after another. Can a guy get all value? 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: I'd rather fight than switch. This is Patriots Unfiltered, fueled 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: by Duncan. All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: Thursday here at Gillett's Stadium, and the gang's all here 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: for the next two hours talking Patriots. Mike, Eric, Paul, Me, Mike, 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: Matt and the booth. Deuce you don't like going by Mike, Ronnie, 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: It's fine, Ricky and Mike. I prefer to be Deuce 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: de tran School. Yeah, sexual desault great one. Never never 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: really caught on for Sson. I'm sure I would like you, 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: I would deuce. But there's there's a music video in 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: there somewhere, Mike. They call me sexual dessault. Do they will? 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: Would be like my first album titled like you know 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: Mike do so it's a sexual dessault. You know me 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: kind of like looking looking sexy on the front right, 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: like Keith Sweat over there. It's exactly exactly, that's perfect. 34 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: Mike's idea of being sexy is having his card agant 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: sweater on, button, a little little chest hair. You know. 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: This is the fastest remember going. All right, but we're 37 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: still in the after glow of the draft. Glow for 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: some people, not so much a glow as a burn. 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: Maybe but I think you just settle in that these 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: are the guys you got, and you start, you know, 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: over analyzing who went where and when, and these are 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: the players that you want to see next month when 43 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: you get out at OTAs to to get a glimpse of, 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, where they line up. I mean last year 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: it was great getting to see Mac. I think that 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: was just a highlight to see a rookie quarterback in 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: training camp. I don't know if it gets any better 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: than that, but it'll be uh, they know it'll be interesting, 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: especially Thornton. I mean it's hard to say with like 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: strange um, you know, in OTAs you're not really going 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: to get much kind of insight into into how he's doing. 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: But I just I'm excited to see Thornton run and 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: that looks like on the field, Like like exactly what 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: what does that look like? Because we haven't seen that 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: in a while. Yeah, tall guy, Yeah, skinny drinker. Not 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: to play Matt grows side of the fence here, But 57 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. You Like, we've been clamoring for 58 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: fast guys. Yeah, let's see what fast guys look like. Strong, 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: strong Jones. You know who's back, who's who's back doing 60 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: the returning? What does what does that look like? From Jones? 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: And so there'll be something seen, some things to say 62 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: to see. Absolutely, we'll get a chance in a few weeks, right, yeah, yeah, 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: end of the month, end of the month, beginning of 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: next month. Yeah, he's made twenty seventh and then in 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: the Mini camp and so I think we get like 66 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: we get about about a half dozen. Yeah, sometimes they 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: cut that last one off. Sometimes they don't. It's last 68 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: year they didn't, which was unfortunate. Now yeah, a half 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: dozen or so. Yeah, Yeah, that's gonna That was what 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: I was going to ask. I'm having trouble talking to 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: day Uh because it was seemed weird to me. I 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: thought always that the Mini camp was the rap, but 73 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: then that was like that lingering. Last weeks been a 74 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: wrap around week where I don't know if if they 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: change the timing, but yeah, we've had Mini Camp and 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: then like another round of OTAs. Yeah. The only thing 77 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: that couple year, the only thing I can figure is 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: maybe in the past, like you're right, in the past, 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: it was Mini Camp and that was the mandatory part, 80 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and as soon as that was over, sometimes they'd even 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: chop that short like it would be two days and 82 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, we did what we came to do. 83 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna, you know, call it a day, and then 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: they'd be off for the summer. I wonder if if 85 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: particularly Bill wanted a chance to if Mini Camp doesn't 86 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: go the way he wants, he still has another like 87 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: in his back pocket, like we've still got a couple 88 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: more days we can clean things up. Also, during the 89 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: time where Mini Camp was the last thing, wasn't it 90 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: a little later in June, Like yeah, mid June, and 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: now Mini Camp is earlier. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, 92 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't You might be right. I don't have the 93 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: exact dates, but I think that they're all the same, 94 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: Like the Mini Camp is the same as OTAs. It's 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 1: just oh yeah, there's just there's just three days that 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: they have to be the only reason why it's known 97 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: as something different, right, they're all the same. Yeah, it's 98 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: same type of practice. It's just mandatory for everybody, and 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: it's all part of a program that it it increases, 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, as it goes. So for whatever reason, they 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: have an OTA session after Mini Camp. Now, I think 102 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: it might be with the I don't know this for sure, 103 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: but the CBA when the most recent one was done, 104 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: may have changed the timing of when you can start. 105 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: And based on all of that, there's you know more 106 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: and you know more time to do it. I don't 107 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: know why they don't just have the mandatory mini camp last, 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: because they could do that if they wanted to. That's 109 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: how they used to do it. So I don't I 110 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: don't know exactly why it's it's done that way. But 111 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: Bill always says that you know, all of the you know, 112 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: teaching teaching camps not but he always says it's all 113 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: part of the process. It's part of the Do you 114 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: think Bill's thinking is if I make the last thing mandatory, 115 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: that's what people will show up for, or if I 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: make like that, if I make the second the last 117 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: thing mandatory, well but you have to come to this, 118 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: you might as well stay for the dessert. Yeah. I 119 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: like that. They could be Yeah, it could be interesting 120 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: to see who shows up. And you know which of 121 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: the injured guys that ended the season on IRRE. You 122 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: know it's James White out there. I mean, I know, 123 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: actually Cameron mcgrowan, Josh Blood, so those guys both practiced 124 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: towards the end though they didn't activate mcgrown. No, but 125 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: they did practice for the But you know, like even 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: like remember Dalton Keene last year, it was like he's 127 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: just just on the bike. Kind of a sign of 128 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: things to come. Guys like that, Yeah, get a health 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: status on on like ray Kuan McMillan. I know, I 130 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: did a little list of guys to look for. Run 131 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: it down, terres Hall, James White, Wow, terres Hall, we 132 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: need to do it. We didn't see him a health 133 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: check on him? Is he even around? I mean I 134 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: wouldn't even recognize him. Henry Anderson, Jonathan Jones, Longi, Dalton Keene, 135 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: Ray Kuan McMillan, Jennings Coward, Jabrill Peppers problem, what did 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: you go up towards the end of the season forgot 137 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: what he? I think he was okay to come back. 138 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: They just didn't activate them. Maybe he's not one, but 139 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: you know, Jabrill Pepper's coming off an ACL. I mean 140 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: that's a significant one to kind of keep an eye on. 141 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: All right, and other news. May twelfth, a week from today, 142 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: schedule will be coming out. Oh yeah, Eric, I'm very happy. 143 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm I like, I like when the schedule comes out, 144 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: it's it's my thing. Okay, it's my thing, but well 145 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: it's I do. I like to find out how many 146 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: night games, and you know how they spread it out 147 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: where we're going, that kind of stuff, when we're going, 148 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: and and well, the preseason schedule come out earlier. I 149 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: was talking to Paul in the past. It usually came 150 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: a little before, right, I expect that early next week. 151 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: Usually it comes out before, but sometimes sometimes after. Well, 152 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: sometimes you'll get the opponents and not the time because 153 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: they're still negotiating what time, you know, and how much 154 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: input did the teams have on the preseason games. It's 155 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: opponents quite quite a bit some Yeah, as opposed to 156 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: the actual regular season. Yeah, they do have input because 157 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: a lot of it is like you've got your your 158 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: your familiarity thing like the Jets, I mean, excuse me, 159 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: the Giants and the Patriots. They always want to be 160 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: the last for each other because that's the shortest road 161 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: trip for both of them. It's just it's an easy thing. 162 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: So they want to coordinate with coaches who know each other, 163 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: who want to do the joint practices, that kind of thing. So, 164 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and then I don't think the league like grants every 165 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: single request. That's given, but I think they try to 166 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: accommodate as many of them as possible. Yea, and everybody 167 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: wants to stay pretty close to each other, right, do 168 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: you want to limit the hassle? I mean it's like, yeah, 169 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: I remember back in the day, like playing Green Bay 170 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: in the preseason, the Patriots would go to green Bay. 171 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Like I even thought that was like a little like, wow, 172 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of weird, like they're going all the way 173 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: out to green Bay for the preseason. San Francisco even 174 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: was that when Parcels was here, think, you know what, 175 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: that's I had didn't think of that. Yeah, that's probably 176 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: that's probably the reason, having quite a show sharp sh 177 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: he knows sure, but that's probably exactly why went to 178 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: to Lambeau because of his relationship with um ron Wolf 179 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: and he also I remember he used to say, you know, 180 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: even in the preseason, Lambo is a different environment and 181 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: he had a young team that he's trying to build, 182 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: and that was part of his mentality. But I'm sure 183 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: ron Wolf was a big part of that made it easier, 184 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: just you know, working together, and we heard rumors of 185 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: some joint practices this year. Caroline, Caroline, that's that's still 186 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: hasn't been expanded upon from that, I think it was 187 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: it was a Joe person that wrote that. Well, it 188 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: was what's his name? The coach rule mentioned it at 189 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: the owners meeting last monster yea, excuse me in March 190 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: now that I forgot exactly how he said it, but 191 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: he basically said, you know, we're working on having a 192 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: joint press. Still don't know if they're going to be 193 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: The practices will be here or in Charlotte, right yeah, 194 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: I think it was a giant stadium, right yeah, with 195 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: Dable that I would make sense to do. Last year 196 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: where what was it last year they practice there, so 197 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: they be to be the opposite. Yeah, we'll practice there. 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: You know right now, you know we're already down to 199 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: three preseason games. I can guarantee you we're gonna go 200 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: up to eight teen regular season games and we'll go 201 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: down to two preseason games. And when that happens, I 202 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: think you'll see even more joint practices during the summer 203 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: for all teams. I would even make up for that. 204 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: I would venture to say that it would be almost mandatory, 205 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: like you kind of have to, like the coaches are 206 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: going to be like, look, if you only give us 207 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: two games. We have to do more than just play 208 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: the two games you have to give them. We have 209 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: to do more than just playing against ourselves. But if 210 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: they do too, like they if they've done two for 211 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the most part, um, do you mean how many more? 212 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: And that's what they'll do. I'm just we have, but 213 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: not every team does. I'm talking about. I think it'll 214 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: be common practice for every team, agree, you know, Yeah, 215 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, would you just practice with a team and 216 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: not play them in a preseason game? I mean that's 217 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: easy enough with the Giants being close. If you're not 218 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: even gonna play each they're just to practice. There's a 219 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: lot of stuff you just want to do, yeah, internally, 220 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, so yeah, you need 221 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: you need that private time. I think it makes sense 222 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: for the week of the preseason game though, to like 223 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: work with the team, you know, because it's kind of 224 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: like and and and glorified practice for the fans too. Yeah, totally. 225 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: It's the best for the fans, especially here where everything's free, 226 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: you know, the parking, the admission. I think I think 227 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: if they've practiced with the Giants again, I'm just gonna 228 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: be watching Joe Judge the whole time to see what 229 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: that awkwardness is all about throughout the field everywhere does 230 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: he just stand like opposite end, doesn't interact with it. 231 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: It's just has that ever happened? Really? Like a guy 232 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: right after he gets fired is then and then you 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: not just coaching against them. It's like joint practices. There's 234 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: some right mingling. There's well, the Giants did it when 235 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: they hired Um Garrett is their offensive coordinator, so he 236 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: faced the Cowboys well in the game. But yeah, like 237 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: a joint practice where familiar you know, you know there's 238 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: some you know, glad handing before the practice, people walking around, Hey, 239 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: how you know slap off the top of my head. 240 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: I can't either. No, it's kind of random, but that 241 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: that would be interesting. We'll be up on our perch 242 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: and just to do the judge cam. Maybe that just 243 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: followed him, like we never had a joint practice against 244 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: Denver when Josh was back, or you know, I'm trying 245 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: to think of people who left and then came back 246 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: like that or not even was here, just left their 247 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: team and then was on this team. And then we 248 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: had yeah, I mean we had Patricia come from Detroit, 249 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: but we didn't you know, we had the joint practice 250 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: with Detroit, but then he came back here and they 251 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: didn't go right. Detroit's right, right, that would have been 252 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: an example if we had right. He's just standing next 253 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: to Dable being like, I know, I know, this is 254 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: what I was dealing with. I told I think, look 255 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: with all due respected Christmas. That's what got we look 256 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: out for two to see if we're on Christmas Day. Yeah, yeah, 257 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: that that's one thing that could happen. Then we talked 258 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: about the you know to West Coast, you know in 259 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: Vegas to you know, lumped those together and they spend 260 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: a week out the desert southwest desert, southwest souse. You 261 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: got it from me, Thank you, Deuce. It's contagious, yeah, desert. 262 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: So there's you know, there's some things to keep our 263 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: eyes on when the schedule comes out. Yeah, that Vegas 264 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: game is gonna be a popular one. Now. Oh yeah, 265 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure our marketing uh department has already planned out 266 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: a junkt to that one. So that's it. Yeah, I 267 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: mean I wonder if they will do that, you know, 268 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: match up Arizona in Vegas. Now, how I'm gonna imagine 269 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: teams ask for that kind of stuff do. Yeah, yeah, 270 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: they did. Now that stuff is definitely not always honored. 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: I know there was a team last year that specifically 272 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: asked for something, it didn't get it, and they were 273 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: pissy about it. I figured who it was. There was 274 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: actually you remember, no Way du you weren't here yet. 275 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Obviously it was on the West Coast and I had 276 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: that year. We had the four game four times, right, 277 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: you remember this, Fred, We had the four West Coast 278 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: to go to all four, No I was I went 279 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: to you went to San Diego and Seattle. Right, I 280 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: went to San Diego and Seattle. I didn't go to 281 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: it to the Raiders and then forty nine. But the 282 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: schedule comes out. We already knew, I mean, we knew 283 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: the opponents and we asked for let's just say that 284 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots asked for those two to be back to 285 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: back in separate. So we had one in October and 286 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: one in December. And I think like everybody in the 287 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: AFC East had that same opponent's schedule. So other teams 288 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: like the Jets had four West Coast games two didn't 289 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: think to ask, I guess or whatever, and had all 290 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: four theirs at different times, so they had to do 291 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: the four trips. They complained to the league, and then 292 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: the next year or the year after, the league made 293 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: a change to the schedules, saying, so like, we were 294 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: supposed to have played Kansas City, I believe in the 295 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: Monday night game where that the Shoemaker quarterback came in. 296 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: Not Mike Kafka, but there was some it was a 297 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: Monday night game over here, Tyler Palco, thank you. We 298 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: were supposed to play that game, I believe in Kansas City. 299 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: But because there was it was a rule now if 300 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: you have more than three West Coast games, you have 301 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: to change whatever. So because the Jets it's bitched about 302 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: not being able to do what we did, it got 303 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: changed and everything. So but I think they've remembering all 304 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: the Kyler Palco, I remember. Yeah, I have no knowledge 305 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: recollection of anything. Well, but you just said other than 306 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: the fact that we played two sets of West Coast 307 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: games you o wait, oh wait, oh wait o wait. Yeah, 308 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: that's the only part of that. In fairness, I write 309 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: the schedule analysis every year, so that's part of what 310 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: I had to write about. Was because my job that 311 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: was the story of that. I like to keep that up. 312 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: I will keep it up? I like doing you keep 313 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: that up? I do? It's I mean it's something like 314 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: analyzing a schedule other than when like the Felgren mask, 315 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: think win, why don't do that? But well, as a fan, 316 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: I was looking at it for, especially as a fan 317 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: in the West Coast, what games can I make? Um? 318 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: And now it's about what games am I staying up 319 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: late for? Where the short turnarounds? Where's the like Sunday 320 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: late night followed by a Thursday game? Like what are 321 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: the what are the grind parts? Oh? Yeah? Yeah? When 322 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: the first thing we look for all the time, right, 323 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: how many night games do we have? Any games? And 324 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: how they coincide with anything that I might have to do? No, 325 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: but no, but yeah, you know, and you never know. 326 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: I and people don't care about our personal lives, but 327 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: like there are different games and whatnot from my kids 328 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: that I want to make sure that I'm around for 329 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, depending like you know, if you had a 330 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: like a you know, like a Thursday night game and 331 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: then there's a Friday game the next day, Like you know, 332 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: it's not not ideal, as they say, it's not ideal, sure, 333 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: stuff like that. You always want to look and see 334 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: how those all coincide. Another little content teas are related 335 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: to the schedule. Um, I'm gonna be doing a uh 336 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: top to bottom ranking of all the road trips in 337 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: the NFL. Okay, so that'll be we'll release that sometime, 338 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: maybe a day or two after my to bring out 339 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: the comments on that one. Yeah, you can do that 340 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: to see what I don't agree with. You probably won't 341 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: agree with most of it. Now, you won't be able 342 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: to do Vegas because we've never had a trip to Vegas, 343 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: but I have been too Vegue. You've been into Bay, right, 344 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: So I include all of them, including Los Angeles because 345 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: even though I've never been to Los Angeles, everybody knows, 346 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: you know, LA is like you've never been to us. 347 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: I've never been to Los Angeles. But all thirty two, 348 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: and I include the international venues in there, so wow, wow, Yeah, 349 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: you've been to Germany. Those were announced, by the way, 350 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: were announced. So it's gonna be Seattle and Tampa Bay 351 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: in Mune and Munich. How does the organization feel about 352 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady getting the first game there when that's our 353 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: home territory. It's Tampa Bay's too. Yeah, I just hate 354 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: so much deces back it's you know, did you guys 355 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: have Brady put a TikTok out today? I'm sorry, what 356 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: TikTok okay? Oh, I'm pretty sure that the first one. 357 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: It's one of these TikTok trends where it's you know, 358 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: safe bulging, tell like the truth or tell the truth 359 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: about something. And Brady kind of looks, he looks over 360 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: his shoulder and he goes, it might have been a fumble. 361 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: Oh oh, troll troll troll. And then I saw poor 362 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: Amy Trash getting getting tagged with that on Twitter, like, 363 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, because she's still so passionate and great about it. 364 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: So that's good little bit content. At least he has 365 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: a sense of humor about things, right? Was that a shot? Eric? 366 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't get humor. Speaking of not having humor, there's 367 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: a thread going on on Reddit our long time listeners strippers. 368 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah us, Yeah, I was gonna say, where's he taps 369 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: out in the off season? Well, you know, he's busy, 370 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think he taps out period. I don't 371 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: think listen, yeah, probably since he was he was he 372 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: liked and he was U but he was known for 373 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: like we would mention something and be like, when was 374 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: that Paul, when was that? And like two seconds later 375 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: he'd email us with like a web search link like 376 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: here it is answer Like he was like almost as 377 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: quick as our boy Jamie used to be. Remember Jamie 378 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: how quick he used to be on the Google search. 379 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: Jamie was the best Googler in the history of Google. Yeah, 380 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: but interesting threat. So it was you go ahead and 381 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: try sometime when you look at with something specific. He 382 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: was Taekwon Thornton fast when he came to Google. Yes, 383 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: I would say, anyone that wants to us, go on 384 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: there and input what you think of us. You know, 385 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to back us up. Yes, you can 386 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: tell us that you don't like us. No, which no, 387 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: you know, no, only only good things and then Fred 388 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: will hunt you down. Freedom of speech, say whatever you want. Friends. 389 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: Took offense to all the people that called him a homer. No, 390 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting that I'm a homer. 391 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: But the show was negative because they're three of us. 392 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: I think there and somebody has to be anybody listen 393 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: to this show and says it's negative, it doesn't really 394 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: listen to the show. It's not only negative. So some 395 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: people like fighting, some people don't like fighting and I 396 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: and I would be in the category of enjoying a 397 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: good little The one thing, the one thing that I 398 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: would agree with is talking over each other. I think 399 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: we do do that and it's unlistenable. He said no, 400 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: But I mean when you're listening to radio, you can't 401 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: understand what people are saying. Yeah, you know, so we 402 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: need to watch that. There's a there's a time for it. 403 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: I know I did it over the draft week and 404 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: when when Paul was, you know, raking me over the coals, um, 405 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: but you know I was raking you over you guys 406 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: the other day. There was But sometimes you have a 407 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: little explosion I think is you're tin of yelling over 408 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: each other for a second, Like that seems like happening 409 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: when it happens, you know what happens. But when you're 410 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: both trying to make points that are real points in discussion, 411 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: I think that's when it's Andy was He was terrible 412 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: at that. Like you you know, he didn't you'd want to, 413 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: you'd want to argue with him, but he just literally 414 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't let you speak. Yeah, it was a bullying you know, 415 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: and that was his tactic. And it's like, well, we're 416 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: gonna Are we gonna talk about this or not? You know? Yeah, 417 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: it was very Eric just broke on a sweat. I 418 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: heard he's doing a new podcast now with Fitzy Andy, 419 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: and see, really Shim is al right now it's Fitzy. 420 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: I just found out who Shim was last show and 421 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: now he's out. Go get your shine box. I said 422 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: that last show, he's saw my joke? Were you Dan 423 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: over here? Joke? I think it's the good Fellas joke? 424 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Dane Cook? You like that reference right there? All right? 425 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: Eight five five past five hundred is the eight ticket 426 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: hut line? Eight five five pass five hundred. Um? Anything 427 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: you want to throw out there before we open it 428 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: up to the listeners. No, I mean we're starting to 429 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: we're starting to unleash our draft profiles. Were just overlooking 430 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: the transactions of the week. I mean Patriots, Oh Divino 431 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: Zigbo yeah or Divine Yeah, they let him go, No 432 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: divine intervention. There draft two running backs. Someone had to 433 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: go you're out, You're out, Tom, You're out. Yeah. I 434 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: think that's about it. What about this quarterback that they 435 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: sign undrafted free agent who says, you know, he thinks 436 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: they're going to use him in a lot of different positions, 437 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: but king, Yeah, yeah, it won't be a quarterback, right, yeah, 438 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: be running back, ride receiver. Thanks for listening to return. 439 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: It was a quarter you were on it, weren't. Yeah 440 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: he was. He's a first of Houston and he was 441 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: a pretty good he's a pretty good receiver. The coaches 442 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: really liked I was on it, but maybe some of 443 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: our listeners weren't listening. The face you just gave me 444 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: the best face. Oh yeah, but he did play, he 445 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: did play significant amount of receiver earlier, early in his career. Um, 446 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: and watched a little of that yesterday. It's okay, what's 447 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: his measurables? Five eight? Yeah, he's five eight? Yeah, I 448 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: mean he's he's not Edelman. It was like a fire hydrant. No, 449 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: and I mean you know, and the thing about Edelman 450 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: two was he had that that three cone time that 451 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: you Connor were like, well, he's he's got some elite quickness. 452 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't. He doesn't doesn't have so, um, there's not 453 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: really a me. Don't do that anymore? To do what 454 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: three is not important anymore? Mac Row new sheriff in Towns. 455 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: An interesting thing though, was combined there weren't a lot 456 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: of great three cones. Anyway, it's just just an interesting 457 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of that's because we were ahead of the curve 458 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, just straight everybody's looking at right, that's why. 459 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: Well that was I mean that's all. The running backs 460 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: didn't run any of they I think some did the forty, 461 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: but they didn't do any of these. The shuttles, yeah, 462 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: corners too, they're not running backs. I guess everybody kind 463 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: of just held hands and said, we're not doing it together. 464 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: And but yeah, I mean certainly Derek King could be 465 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, a guy that makes a transition from a 466 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: college quarterback to a receiver. We've seen it happen a 467 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: lot um. I just want to caution like the chances 468 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: of it being you know, Edelman. I mean, it's disrespectful 469 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: to Edelman. I say this this solid time, like when 470 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: we just think that the next guy who has that 471 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: kind of profile will be the next Edelman or the 472 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: next Welker, Like those guys were really great players. I mean, 473 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: Troy Brown is an all time Patriot, and to just 474 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: suggest the next guy that comes along will be the 475 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: next guy like him, Yeah, sooner they're not you know, unicorns. 476 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: Sooner or later someone will be like that. But I 477 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: just I'm not going to assume that someone's like that 478 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: just because he played college quarterback and it's five foot nothing. 479 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: That's just a start night. Like I mean, like I said, 480 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: Edelman had at least that three cone time that you 481 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: that you had some intrigue statistically coming in that he 482 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: would have some quickness and be able to ditch guys 483 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: and get away and get open. I know, I don't. 484 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't think there's really much that stands out about 485 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: King to me, um, but I thought, I mean, I 486 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: was kind of digging a little bit on on some 487 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: of these undrafted guys. I thought the Brendan Schooler guy, 488 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: he's a you know, was a receiver then was a 489 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: safety at Texas and a big special teams guy. So 490 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about somebody who might might 491 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: make it good profile on that, yeah, he's yeah, athletic, 492 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: interesting guy and he's got long here for ye oh, 493 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: I cut him then, all right? Eight five five past 494 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: five hundred is the eighth ticket outline. Eight five five 495 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: pass five hundred. Web radio at Patriots dot com is 496 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: the email address. Uh, let's get to the phones. Start 497 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: with Todd, North Carolina. Hey, Todd, Todd Todd Todd, He's gone, 498 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: oh wow, Wow, Let's go to Patty and agawam. What's 499 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: up Patty dude? Hey, hey, I got a couple questions. 500 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: Second one, I'll be quick, but the first one's kind 501 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: of a weird hypothetical question, and it's regarding how they 502 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: traded up to take the Kwan Thornton and just your 503 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: guy's opinions. I'd like to hear the opinions considering like 504 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: his place, well not really his place style, but like 505 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: his measurables, the fact that he the program that he 506 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: came from, and the fact that he played gunner. Do 507 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: you guys think that Jamison Williams was either like at 508 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: the top or like the top guy on the Patriots 509 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: board going into the draft. M I mean it's possible, 510 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: like you know, we we are pretty sure based on 511 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: some sources that last year, if Wattle was available and 512 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: the other receiver, they would have taken him. Waddle. I 513 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: think Waddle is the guy they love. Yeah, and so 514 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: that's that's my opinion. That's not a fact. No, no, 515 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: it's not a fact. But I think, you know, maybe 516 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: they would have taken Williams if they had a higher 517 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: draft pick, you know, and he was available or if 518 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: he dropped to them, they would have jumped at him. 519 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 1: And maybe they wanted that type of receiver and they 520 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: thought that this guy was a poor man Williams and 521 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: we can coach him up. And you know, maybe that's 522 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: why they moved up to get him, because you know, 523 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: they thought maybe Pittsburgh was gonna grab him, but they 524 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: wanted that type of guy. Yeah, they definitely have similar files, 525 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: just as far as height and you know, body type 526 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: and speed. Clearly speed, that's that's the thing. So I 527 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: mean he did it at Alabama, but yeah, it's a 528 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: good question. I don't know. I do know though, I 529 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: saw the pictures of Jamison Williams being introduced by the Lions, 530 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: and he looked like depressed, like you did, like the 531 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: most straight face, like I'm like, whoa, you're getting introduced. 532 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: He's right next to who is the top chin Hutches 533 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: has got the big smile on. Jamison Williams just kind 534 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: of looked dour. I don't know, but again, comportment, if 535 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: you had to catch passes from Jared Goffin, he'd be 536 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: doing back back flips. Either. I can't do back FLI 537 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: and real quick. Do you guys have any interest in 538 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: James Bradberry if the Giants released him. I'm not really 539 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: familiar with the players. Oh, he's a good player. Yeah, 540 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if we'd be able to afford him. 541 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: But not familiar with good player. James Bradberry, former Panther 542 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: went to the Giant just supposed to be the prepared 543 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: one in this podcast. Didn't you read the reddit thread? No, 544 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: you read a reddit thread. Yeah, it was short. Um, 545 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: he's a he's a pretty solid corner. Uh. Yeah, I 546 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: would be interested in him, Patty, if they could, they 547 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: could bring him in. Um, I think he would. He 548 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 1: would slot in as a starter. I would feel really 549 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: good about him being one of my two starting corners. Absolutely, thanks, Patty, 550 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it. James Bradberry, he's just not thinking. Yeah, probably 551 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: no serious, Like I know dou said. I know that 552 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: he knows who that is. He's just not thinking right now, 553 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: all right, and we don't pay no mind. Yeah, he 554 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: was on the Panthers there out of out of college, 555 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: and then he signed a free agent deal with the 556 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: Giants and supposedly he's supposedly, as they say, he's he's 557 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: on the way out Eldred's in North Carolina. What's what's up? Eldred? 558 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: Hey fellows, how y'all doing good? Hey Fred? Yeah, one 559 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: durn thing about this show man. I love it all right, 560 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: thank you. I love what y'all know each other. I 561 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: love it and you had me chuckling over here. But 562 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: I find myself lately agreeing more with Paul. Paul mean 563 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: you mean you used to argue a lot. I like 564 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: to love that more than anything, but we don't argue 565 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: it right now. We're coming everything. Well, you both hate 566 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots. You see what he does, see what he 567 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: does there. But yeah, I'm getting to come to your 568 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: side a little bit about Thornton because I saw some 569 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: highlight then NFL talking NFL Network talking about especially Bucky 570 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Brooks and that other guy you know. See it might 571 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: be a sleeper all the pens. You know how how 572 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: New England used him, but he was a burning and everything. 573 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: But my thing is, I know, like I said, I 574 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: look at the way Nick the Cereal draft. I looked 575 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: at the way but Josh did when he left. I 576 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: knew he had to put some input with the GM. 577 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: Then I look at Dabo, how they how they draft 578 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: and I mean they went after the guy just and 579 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: know they under Bill Free and I'm like most I 580 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: think Nick got got the guys the Bill won't it. 581 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: He jumped the head and got him like MITCHI and 582 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: I think the corner somebody else, yeah, you know, and 583 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: then he he kept picking. I'm like, drn you know, 584 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: but I like the way they draft, and I'm just wondering. 585 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, they took something from Bill, but they didn't. 586 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: They didn't take the drafting part. They did a little 587 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: bit what the team need it. And that's my problem 588 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 1: with Bill. You know, I understand get what the team need, 589 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: but try to get the right playoffs, you know, the 590 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: ones that you do know that can do the big 591 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: name schools or whatever. If you can't get them, I understand. 592 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: But a couple of those guys, like I said, they 593 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: would sit there. We just didn't get him. Yeah, that's 594 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: that's my right, yeah right, yeah, but I hope they 595 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: didn't come in and Bradsberry. Oh he's a good guy. 596 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind having him as the corner instead of 597 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: two five eight guys we got. I really have him. Yeah, 598 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: I just look a second round pick um, you know, 599 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: with the Panthers and he's been so I mean, I'm 600 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: not trying to make him up to be Rivers or 601 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: anything like that, but um, I think he would be 602 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: an upgrade. I think he'd immediately be your best corner. 603 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: On the radio this morning, Paul, two of your guys, 604 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: the Bankroll boys, they were having a big argument about 605 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots draft and so on, and you know who's 606 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, guess who's in Fish Lift shots loved it. No, 607 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: But I think what the point that they were kind 608 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: of both making, but they were still arguing, is you know, 609 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: you choose to you choose to believe the sources that 610 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: back up your opinion. No doubt that's a good point, 611 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: you know. But but something that um the Murray is 612 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: it Murray? It's Joe Murray and Dan Lift Like he 613 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: was insisting on that last year Dave Ziegler ran the 614 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: draft and leaderships kept saying, how do you who says says? 615 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: Who you know? And that's a good point, Like, like 616 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, like even NAT's coming out now, people 617 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: are starting to talk about Mac. This is clearly like 618 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: I think our buddy Mike Giardi right had a tweet 619 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: about this from an AFC guy with Patriots ties. It 620 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: was a vague kind of description, but clearly all the 621 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: earmarks of a Matt Matt grow draft because of the 622 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: guys they picked and not necessarily profiling guys that Bill 623 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: would be I'm sorry, it's to me, it's it's it's Bill. 624 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: Now it's Bill. Then it has always been, always will 625 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: always right. It's always the way it shall be in 626 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: my opinion, until he decides to agree. I agree, But 627 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: I also wonder how much of it is how it's 628 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: presented to him, because he's not doing all the heavy lifting. 629 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: At the end of the there's probably some sort of meeting, 630 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: many meetings, probably where it's either Ziegler or Macro or 631 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: somebody presenting to him this is who we like. Well, 632 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: that's a good point he picks out of those guys. 633 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: But I still think that there's a little bit of 634 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: a you know, a sieve I guess is what, but 635 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, a buffer before him of what they're presenting 636 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: to him. Um, because he's not in the way, are 637 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: they kind of managing up so like they're giving him 638 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: three options let's say at cornerback, but it's the options 639 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: that they give him, so he's deciding but it's based 640 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: on what the information he's getting to make that decision. Yeah, 641 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: and I think that he also is instructing them to 642 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: look for these guys. Not sure not Mike do so, 643 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: but type guy who do A, B and C. This 644 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: is what as an organization, this is what is important 645 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: to us overall as a as a person, then as 646 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: a player, and then at that position. Yeah, they have 647 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: the season wrap up meeting where they go through everything, 648 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: they evaluate all the players on the roster, and then 649 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: they have that kind of discussion of this is the 650 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: direction we feel like we need to go. Clearly, speed 651 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: was probably part of that conversation based on toughness what 652 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: they said and picked. I feel like toughness always was, 653 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 1: but I don't always feel like speedball. But I think 654 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: those teams around a lot, you know, those teams that 655 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: they look for guys that that will fold like they're 656 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: not gonna I love those kinds of things to guys. Now, 657 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: you want to tell me like Bill looks for guys 658 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: that have a certain like intangible kind of profile of 659 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: football being important. Yeah, um, you know, cerebral kind of players. Yeah. 660 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: I would absolutely say that those are traits that Bill 661 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: looks for that. I don't think all teams are necessarily 662 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: enamored with you know that, you know, other teams aren't 663 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: looking for guys that don't like football, But it's not 664 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: as important, right of a factor, And I think it 665 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: is very important for Bill to get guys that clearly 666 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: show that they like foot. But I would like to 667 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: ask Bill or even Matt grow, what's your definition of tough? Like? 668 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: Is it playing through injuries? Is it, you know, dealing 669 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: with adversity, is it not listening to the noise? Is 670 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: it it's probably all yeah, but like what what's your 671 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: definition a tough you know, because we think the first 672 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: thing you think is, oh, he's strong and you know, 673 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: but there's other things to that. Yeah. I just I mean, 674 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: I think generally most football players getting to this level 675 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: have an element of toughness to them. And there's certainly guys, 676 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: you know a little bit like like Trevor Penning who's 677 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: a pain in the ass, who who's like a step 678 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: on a guy after, you know, put him to the ground. 679 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: And you know, I think Strange has a little bit 680 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: of I think Mankins was was was great at that 681 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: he was nasty when had a nastiness to him. But 682 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's the only way to be tough. 683 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: I think I think just being healthy and being available 684 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: is a form of toughness, of being able to survive 685 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: the grinding you're out and playing lots of lots of snaps, 686 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: mentally tough. But I think Paul Paul, I really like 687 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: Paul's point because I think that sorry, pauls a good point, um. 688 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: But I think some of the misses are because of that, 689 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: are because they fell more in love with this is 690 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: just a great, great kid. And I think the first 691 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: guy that comes to mind is Jordan Richards, who you know, perfect, 692 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: perfect guy example, but couldn't really good play, you know. 693 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at some of those 694 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: I know, no and and and you know, a special teamer, 695 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: but based on where they drafted him, not really. You know, 696 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: we talked about value, um, but I think that there's 697 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: an element of that, and some of the draft miss 698 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: is where we may be overvalued what kind of person 699 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: they were a little bit more than can they really play? 700 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, I know 701 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: then they opposite in the spectrum is a guy who's 702 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: got character problems but is awesome and running for two 703 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: forties and three and all that you know, has all 704 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: the measurables. UM, so interesting. I mean, I think there 705 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: are subtle shifts in the draft a little bit this year, 706 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: but you know, generally, I don't. I think there's always 707 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: some kind of toughness that you're looking at, and it's 708 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to it's kind of a nebulous 709 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,959 Speaker 1: term of like, there's all kinds of different tough guys. 710 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: There's guys who are nasty, they're guys who are consistent 711 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: and able to play um. But but like so Ziegler 712 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: and Wolf right, Elliott Wolf both of them got asked 713 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: to do interviews and didn't they say no? To Wolf 714 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: they turned interviews for other jobs. I mean, okay, okay, 715 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: I thought that they might have said no, no, they 716 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: allowed okay, yeah, okay, he just didn't get the jobs. 717 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: But part of that, you know, when we talk about, 718 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, some of the subtle differences they probably are 719 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: because if you look at the last three years, you've 720 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: had Casserio, then you had Ziegler, and now you have 721 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: grow Montias and four those three guys probably do have 722 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: a different opinion on what Bill has asked them to 723 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: go and sure scour, yeah, you know, and you know 724 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: they might not come out with the same players. That's true. 725 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: How I do think this particular year there was something 726 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: more the way that everybody's talking like Taekwon Thornton is 727 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: not a guy they would have gravitated to it, straight linespeed, 728 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: lousy three cone time, you know, and some other things 729 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: that that maybe they used to really focus on, you know, 730 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: not not as polished, uh you know, a product. But 731 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: maybe Bill is stepped back and said, hey, you know, 732 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: we need to change the way we look at that 733 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: position because we haven't had success with it. And maybe 734 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: that was you know, part of that too, you know, 735 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: and Bill, I just can't imagine that Bill just said, oh, yeah, Matt, 736 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: whatever you want at that position, I can't do it. 737 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: So whatever you want. I think it was an organizational 738 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: and Bill must say to them, you know, not just 739 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: this year, but in past years. Don't don't be afraid 740 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: to look at the sub schools, you know, the FBS schools. 741 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: They've never been afraid of that. Yeah, don't be afraid. 742 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: You know. No. The thing I wonder is Bill gives 743 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: the directive of you know this is these are the 744 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: parameters criteria I'm looking for it, go go at it. 745 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: And I wonder how many of them are willing to 746 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: come back and say, Okay, I'll give you a handful 747 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: of the ones you're looking for, but I also think 748 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: you should look at this guy. Yeah, I like the 749 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: way this guy does this or that, and why don't 750 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: you consider this Bill. I wonder how many of them 751 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: are willing to or brave enough to say, and you know, 752 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to submit some of these names for you. 753 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: I think they all do. And I think that was 754 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: much more prevalent when a guy like Peoli was there 755 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: and had in Thomas Dimitrov and those guys, because they 756 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: had a little bit more standing yeah with Bill from 757 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: years of experience be with him. And I think more 758 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: recently there's probably been less pushback than that, and that 759 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: might have something to do with, you know, sort of 760 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: the inconsistencies of late I hope there's more, though, because 761 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 1: I think that's where you really find the good ones. 762 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: You know, if if you have a young scout who 763 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: really believes in a player, I would want that, you know, 764 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: even if I don't see it, I would want if 765 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm Bill and this guy is somebody, a young guy 766 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: and he's willing to speak up to me. Then if 767 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm Bill, I'm like, he must really believe in him, 768 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: So I should look at him, you know, like he's 769 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: got the you know, um, he got the stones up 770 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: to talk back to me on this guy. Okay, I should. 771 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: I should give him a second thought. And I think 772 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: that's how, you know, the team stays fresh. And I mean, 773 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: I know, as any coach gets older, there's questions of 774 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: you know, at what point do they do they get 775 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: does the game pass them by? That kind of thing? 776 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: And the way to avoid that, I think is by 777 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: embracing that that the new people and the new voices 778 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: and um, you know clearly with Elliot Wolf coming in now, 779 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 1: I think it's his titles director of Scouting, I believe 780 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: is what he is now. So you know, that's that's 781 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: another new voice that that they seem to respect and 782 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: are including now in this process. So we'll see how 783 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: this class turns out. I mean, it's it's it's every year. 784 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: It's exciting to see who they get, how it turns out. Yeah, 785 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: back to the phones, we go. Rashad's in Baltimore. Hey, Rashad, Hey, Hey, Um, 786 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: I guess I got a couple of things on the build. 787 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: Thing is one isn't bigger than the team? No? I 788 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: think I think sometimes, you know, Bill should be held 789 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: accountable for his actions. And I'm not even talking about 790 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: this draft, for it could be other actions that he's 791 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: done as a GM, like in the past, Like and 792 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, Bill's gonna be stuck. He's gonna 793 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: do what did he do? And he's gonna think how 794 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: he thinks. But if that's not helping the team, and 795 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: if it's detrimental to the team, then shouldn't he help 796 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: shouldn't be held accountable in some sort of way? Sure? Yeah, 797 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: well would wouldn't you say that? Like the owner saying 798 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: that he needs to do a better job in the 799 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: draft is holding him accountable? I mean I would say that, 800 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: but it's but I'm I guess what I'm just really 801 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: saying is like it's it's like worst coming to worst 802 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: if it doesn't you know, if we do bad, you 803 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: know this year, is he gonna follow through? Like maybe 804 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: he'll say, you know, take a step down to GM, 805 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: you know and just be head co which or something 806 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: like that. I don't think do you want him to 807 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: continue to be the coach. That's okay, he doesn't have 808 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: to think, he doesn't have to think like y now 809 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: because I mean just I mean, because he's really be 810 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: the only coach I've you know, I've known my whole life. Yeah, 811 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 1: it's hard, but like when it comes to the team, 812 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, it comes to the team. It's not about 813 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: a player or coach, right, and that that needs to 814 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: be your determining factor. Do you think he's the best 815 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: and the best man for the job for your team? 816 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: And I still think the answer is yes, Yes, I 817 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: gotta say yes. And I think it's hard to say, Okay, Bill, 818 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: you can keep coaching this team, but you're no longer 819 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: allowed to pick the players. Yeah, I don't think that works. 820 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: I think he'd wave goodbye, right, I don't. I don't think. 821 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: I don't think that he would go for that. You know. 822 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: The best I think you could hope for is maybe 823 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: some of these people that are talking now about a 824 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: more collaborative effort, that that's been a sort of a 825 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: compromise on Bill's part. I don't necessarily buy it, but 826 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: if it's true when it has happened, maybe Bill has, 827 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: you know, sort of made a concession and now it's 828 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: he's more willing to sort of wigh the opinions of 829 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: all if I'm Robert craft a way to get around that, 830 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 1: you know, like not officially saying, Okay, you're no longer 831 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: the GM, but I say to Bill, and I say 832 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: to mac Grow or whoever um Bill, you no longer 833 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,959 Speaker 1: have the ability to fire Matt Grow. So matc Grow 834 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: now has a little bit more. He doesn't have to 835 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: worry about Bill firing him. So now mac Row is 836 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: my guy if I'm but what is the fear of 837 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: what you think? Mac Row doesn't give his opinions because 838 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: he's a phrase, he's gonna get fired. I'm just I'm 839 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: just saying, like, now mac Row is kind of my employee. 840 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: He's not bills, you know, I see what you're saying. 841 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: I just think that the bigger problem is that I 842 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: think that some of these guys are you know, lilimitated. Yeah. 843 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: I think I mean it's the greatest coach of all time. Yeah, 844 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: but you're gonna tell him, But why are they intimidated? 845 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: Because he's great? Ye right, he's great, but you could 846 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: also lose your job. But I think you can't help 847 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: but say, well, you know, I'm wrong, yes, right, yeah, 848 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 1: some spill right if oh yeah, that's part he should 849 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: be like, exactly, you should I sit here and argue 850 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 1: with you about random minutia. Do you think I'm gonna 851 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: do that with Bill? Right? No, you should. You should 852 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: respect his knowledge and experience. But if you have the conviction, 853 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: if you really believe in a guy, you should also 854 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: feel like you can fight back. Not a lot of 855 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: people have the conviction to do that, right. I think 856 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: that's what separated the first part of the dynasty. I 857 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: think Pioli did that. I think Dimotrov did that. Yeah. Yeah, 858 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: and I think there's been less of that. Yeah, I 859 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, but to Robert and Jonathan, they 860 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: have it. They know, they know how it's run, right, 861 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: they know who's making the decisions and how much like 862 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: like sure they're they're in the draft room, right, I 863 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: mean it's they probably have I mean, clearly a better 864 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: sense than we do here. I would hope, but but 865 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: but I would think that they would know if if 866 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: the coach was just kind of a billion doesn't go 867 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: as far as it, no idea, what's going there? Like 868 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, mac Row just told him who he wanted, 869 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: and then he went off in the corner insult and 870 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: Bill picked his guy like, I mean, I think they 871 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 1: would think they would see that, you know, so, I 872 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: just I think they have a sense of you know, 873 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: what the power dynamic is and how much input people are, 874 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and you know that kind of thing. Yeah, 875 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: but that stuff has been than in the past, exactly 876 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: what you talked about. I can think of Russi Dowling 877 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: off the top of my head as being a guy 878 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: that was widely widely reported. Again doesn't mean it's true, 879 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: but it was widely portrayed as that was a way 880 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 1: outside the box. Pick that Bill just said. I'm making 881 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: this back. Yep. Todd's in North Carolina. Hey Todd, Hey, 882 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: it worked this time. I didn't get hung up on 883 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: I'll like it. I don't hang up at anybody, fat fingers. 884 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: It's user error. Anyway. I was thinking about Paul the 885 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: other day because I went to the home of pepsi 886 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: where it was invented. There's a pharmacy in a place 887 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: called New Burn that's like Mecca. The smell of the 888 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: pepsi just emanates from the fact that, oh, they've got 889 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: all these old bottles and everything. It's really really cool. 890 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: So I got a very two things. The first thing 891 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: is who scared Tomorrow off? I thought she was coming 892 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: in to be a regular Well, she's working through some things, 893 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: and but once your schedule freeze up, she'll be here 894 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: more regularly. Well I just thought maybe this, you know, 895 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: the accent off and all the other stuff, and you know, 896 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: talking about it or you guys didn't put her in 897 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: Andy's chair or anything mean like that, right, No, she 898 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: she got I'm in Andy's chair now and she got 899 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: on the hot corner where I was when I started. 900 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: I think that's the new in between me and Eric. 901 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: It's like it's like the tryout for all these OTAs 902 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: and voluntary stuff. There's no this is not when the 903 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: fans can come watch. You gotta wait till training. That's correct. Now, 904 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: it's just us, but we'll make sure to get all 905 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: the stats for you. Yeah, oh yeah, well no, that's 906 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: my next question. How much media gets to go to this? 907 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: Like do you guys get to go yeah, yeah, yeah, limited, No, no, 908 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: we get to actually we get to see all of 909 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: the practices that were allowed to see. We don't get 910 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: to see every practice, but there's a certain number of 911 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: them and whichever ones were allowed to see, we're allowed 912 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: to watch all of them. I thought we got a 913 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: little extra um over the last few years than the 914 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: regular media. First, yeah, we got we got to watch Yeah, 915 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: I think it was that was COVID from that, but 916 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: that was training camp because because the entire the entirety 917 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: of the offseason was all virtual, right right. That was 918 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: the last question is who do you what what position 919 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: do you think you really really miss in this draft? 920 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: For mine, it was a fatty for the D line. 921 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: I really wanted one of Deuce's guys for us. Yeah, 922 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: that's who I feel like us. Who do you guys 923 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: think that yet? I was hoping for speed, a linebacker, 924 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, edge, edge, or a big, big D tackle 925 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: probably more so edged. Just a guy that could impact 926 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: three downs. I would have liked Germaine or you know, 927 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: there's quite a couple options. Josh Josh Pascal from can 928 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: He was the second round guy that I thought, you 929 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: know fit pretty well. Um, it's just you know, it's 930 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: the same group. It's the same group up front. Essentially. 931 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: He added Sam Roberts and you got an undrafted rookie there. 932 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: You also added an undrafted rookie to Marcus Mitchell, who's 933 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: probably an outside linebacker, but otherwisier young guys and an 934 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: old guy, you know, young guys who were unproven and 935 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: veterans who were here last year. Uh web radio at 936 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: Patriots dot com is the email address Mike and Marilyn. 937 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: Uh wonders if there is an easter egg in the 938 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: video that came out from the draft room. Maybe, he says, 939 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: I saw the video where they start the trade with 940 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Bill says we're two out, and Matt Grove 941 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: gets up and Robert turns around, perhaps a little puzzled. 942 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: Maybe didn't know him personally, or I'd be mailing him 943 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 1: instead of you. The pick just before was Trailing Burks 944 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: from Arkansas. Do you think they wanted him and scrambled back? Oh? 945 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: You would have been happy with that, right, Yeah, I 946 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: would have liked trailing Burks. Could be, yeah, could be. 947 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't rule anything out, you know, with that kind 948 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: of stuff. And I don't see him completely as Taekwon Thornton, 949 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: but I think he's that outside I mean, and he 950 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: has some versatility too. But I liked him. I would 951 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 1: have been so so his His key here is Robert 952 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: turning around looking a little puzzled, like I thought we 953 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: were going to do something else or you know. Yeah, 954 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't read too 955 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: much into that, And that could have been about a 956 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: million different things that Robert could have had on his mind. 957 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: But I don't rule out the fact that somebody got 958 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: taken in a pick or so around, you know, in 959 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: a group that the Patriots were really in that kind 960 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: of tipped the scales and said, okay, let's move down, 961 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, because I'm not sure they would have taken 962 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 1: Strange at twenty one. No. Well, I mean, I hope 963 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: they put it. Bill said they might have. Bill said 964 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: they might have. Yeah, but I don't. I think I 965 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: don't think it's a foregone conclusion. Right, I agree, right? Uh. 966 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: Jake writes in I hope you're all recover No no, 967 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: but he is from Australia. I hope you're all recovered 968 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: post draft and are ready for all the fun and 969 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: watching the new batch of rookies come through to earn 970 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: their stripes. I'm keen to see all the camps and 971 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 1: training camp uh and get back into full swing. Let's 972 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: see how all this needed speed Goes got a couple 973 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: of questions in relation to the draft. How long have 974 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: mocked drafts been around? And why are their grades when 975 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 1: the draft is done? So it was the grading after 976 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: the draft is done is absurd. Yeah, I will say 977 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: that mock drafts have been done since I've been following, Yeah, 978 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: which is when I don't remember a time when there 979 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: weren't mock drafts. I don't either, but that was Now 980 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: there's way more two in the like Sports Illustrated and 981 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: the newspapers. Yeah, yeah, I think that's where I first 982 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,959 Speaker 1: saw them. Was was Yeah, like in Will McDonough for years, 983 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: did it? Yeah, And that's why I said, like, I 984 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 1: don't ever remember a time without mock draft. Hey, Matt, 985 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: why don't you look up when was the first mocked draft? Yeah, 986 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: NFL mock draft. Maybe we'll call Jamie, he'll do it. 987 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: He also says, being so used to the Australian rules 988 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: uh football draft, the NFL draft seems so crazy. The 989 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: AFL strollers football usually has the first five top prospects 990 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: in the limelight, but that's it. Anyone after that. You 991 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 1: watch their highlights after they're drafted and hope they can perform. Also, 992 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: no grading on our drafts either how many? How many 993 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: teams are there? Oh in that league? Well, let's face it, 994 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 1: like all the even the pro sports in America, there's 995 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: no draft like the NFL draft. You know, hockey you're 996 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 1: drafting for the future. NBA like, only the first ten 997 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: guys matter, you know, it's really only like the first two. Yeah, 998 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: in the NBA. But you're right that there's nothing like 999 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: the NFL draft. Baseball, you're drafting into the miners schools. Yeah, 1000 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: round one hundred we pick high school gets drafted. But 1001 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: that's why, like baseball and hockey, you're drafting high school kids. 1002 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: You know, kids that that they're either gonna sign with 1003 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: you right away, they're gonna stay would play juniors, or 1004 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna go and play in college. Yep, you know, 1005 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: And that's both baseball and hockey. Basketball is the closest. 1006 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: But there aren't that many. There's only a handful of 1007 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: guys that you know, right, would you say ten? Yeah? 1008 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 1: I think ten's probably generous. Yeah, guys that are actually 1009 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: gonna play big roles. 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See DraftKings dot com for details. And 1159 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 1: now great moments in history, time of day, like second minute, 1160 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: hour is the agent? That word silent it is they 1161 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,160 Speaker 1: also have the same Yeah, that's that's the that's how 1162 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: that's a difference. Our You are correct, Mike, to most 1163 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: of us, is that our house or our house? Our 1164 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 1: house in the middle of the street. Eric, you you 1165 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: know what a dictionary you just come look it up. 1166 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: You just completely butchered the name I have a town 1167 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts on a call earlier this morning. Syllable you 1168 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 1: should easily know. Look it up, Eric, Gloucester, don't take 1169 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: my word. I live in Gloucester. Eric, don't take my 1170 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: word for Blochester. Eric, do not take my word for it. 1171 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't look. I don't take your word for anything. 1172 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Look it up. How many syllables does oh you are have? 1173 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 1: Look it up? I don't have a dictionary in front 1174 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: of me. I have one upstairs. You don't have one. 1175 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Print it out. We have this thing called the internet. 1176 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: You know, look it up. Don't take my word for it, Matt, 1177 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: go ahead, look it up. How many syllables in the 1178 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: word oh you are? Hey? What are you saying? One? One? 1179 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: He's saying that the word are and oh you are 1180 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: are pronounced exactly the same one. One. There you go, 1181 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: and there it is Paul, and there it is Paul's 1182 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: try technology right now? Our who's saying that somebody from 1183 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: China dicks scenary the dictionary pronunciation? You told me to 1184 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,920 Speaker 1: look it up. I looked it up in the dictionary 1185 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 1: and it has the pronunciation. How many audibles hour? Our? 1186 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: He just said one? Well, I just I'm just playing 1187 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm not listening to the passage. Let me see that hour. 1188 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: Let me see it. So Fred's picking up the phone. 1189 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Now it has the little it has the little pronunciation. 1190 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: You guy, how you pronounced it? Do you hear how 1191 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: it was pronounced? It's one. I don't how many syllables 1192 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: it is. It's pronounced our, Yeah, hour, it is not our. 1193 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: That's another great moment from Hey, I don't know how 1194 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 1: I put up with this. Do you never notice like 1195 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: how many times Deuce has these odd ways of saying 1196 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: things like you you say our, I say engine and no, 1197 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: but you say our are and Eric and I say 1198 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: our hour. Deuce had this other thing that was like totally. 1199 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 1: It was like Chanceler, like, I don't know what. Don't 1200 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: bring that candel how dare you? There's a certain magic though, 1201 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: when somebody pushes their mic away and is yelling, yeah, 1202 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: there is You're right, I agree. It's like I thought 1203 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: that was gonna be one where you had About ten 1204 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:21,439 Speaker 1: minutes later, thanks for calling our show, Bill and DC. 1205 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: I went back and listened to mac grow and his 1206 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: pre draft press conference, and he made it pretty clear 1207 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: that they were going to make it a priority to 1208 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: go after speed at wide receiver. I don't know if 1209 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: he said that position, but all right, I think he 1210 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 1: mentioned receiver, like he mentioned receiver in relation to speed. Okay, 1211 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 1: and the day one starter on the offensive line, and 1212 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,439 Speaker 1: then when they did exactly that, all hell broke loose. 1213 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Unlike all the fans who are draft experts, I'll admit 1214 01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 1: I know nothing, but it seems pretty clear that for 1215 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: better or worse, the Patriots had a plan going into 1216 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: the draft and executed it to a t. Time will 1217 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: tell if they were right, but I'm willing to reserve 1218 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: judgment until I see these kids on the field. Question 1219 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: from the back of the room, Paul, I don't think 1220 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: anybody has a problem with the positions that they chose. 1221 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is surprised even a little bit 1222 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: with the positions that they chose. Some people, myself included, 1223 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: wonder if they chose the right guys. That's all. Yeah. Like, 1224 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that they targeted a wide receiver in 1225 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 1: Day two. Mike and I talked about it for six weeks. 1226 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised they targeted an offensive lineman. It was 1227 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: a major need. I just don't know if they got 1228 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 1: the right guys, right, could you just rejigger it and 1229 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,440 Speaker 1: take a wide receiver first and a guard second, or 1230 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, or an edge guy like you know, a 1231 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: highly rated player at the you know, in the first round. 1232 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, Fred's been on this. Fred thinks they may 1233 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: have been trying to trade down again from twenty nine. 1234 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 1: I think maybe that was true. I don't know. My 1235 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: guess is somebody got taken between twenty one and twenty 1236 01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 1: nine that they liked. Interesting, That's my guess, and that's 1237 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: why they were probably trying to trade down. Uh Tony 1238 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: writes in anyone find it a bit concerning that the 1239 01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: Baylor wide receiver has great speed hig Bethel how the 1240 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 1: career work out, but has a three cone shuttle which 1241 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 1: both Welker and Edelman obliterated. So are the Patriots gonna 1242 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 1: just tell him go long wave to him? No longer? 1243 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Keep going? Is that the type of Joey Galloway or 1244 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean wide receiver we're looking at here. We don't 1245 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: want Joey Galloway's. We don't want special players like that. 1246 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Is that what Mac needs? What matches his skills as 1247 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback? If this guy turns out to be Joey Galloway. 1248 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 1: I will sit here and tell you how wrong I 1249 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: watch just not Patriots Rights. Yeah that I mean, it's 1250 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: they're they're totally different players, different roles, and but I mean, 1251 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that Thornton is necessarily just 1252 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 1: a guy who runs goes and comebacks. And he certainly 1253 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: does run those. But I think he's got a little 1254 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,720 Speaker 1: wiggled to him. I think he's willing to go over 1255 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I think he blocks okay, 1256 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 1: but we'll see how they him. Just different different guys, 1257 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: though different guys. Jeff in California says, I'm kind of 1258 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 1: surprised how many people have said we haven't had four 1259 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: two speed in a long time. People seem to forget 1260 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Paul's guy demere Bird, who was a four two five guy. 1261 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Cooks and Dorset were both four three three forty guys. Yeah, 1262 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: du Assett was not that on the fields. I'll tell 1263 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 1: you that. Yeah. Yeah, But it's a great cautionary tale 1264 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: of a guy who has a first round grade and 1265 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: runs great. It doesn't it doesn't mean that that translates 1266 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 1: to the playfield. And I think that's what you know 1267 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: with Thornton is as much as he ran, Well, you 1268 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: got to see him play in games, and as we've said, 1269 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: I think you got to see a translate to the field. 1270 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: How does he look on the field against NFL players 1271 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: and is he able to process and get to where 1272 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,960 Speaker 1: he needs to be. But yeah, I mean I think 1273 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 1: that's a great example and something like Cooks this one. 1274 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: And we talked about Cooks I think during the draft weekend. 1275 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: I think that the question was when was the last 1276 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: time we drafted a guy like that? I think? But 1277 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: but I don't think du Assett was that kind of speed. 1278 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: I know when he came out of college with but 1279 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: he didn't play like that. That was one of Duce's 1280 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 1: favorite guys to beat up on. Mike did not like 1281 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 1: Philip to a set all that much. But Cooks absolutely 1282 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: played to the speed. He's dynamic guy. Oh yeah, look 1283 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 1: at all the penalties he drew. And you know he 1284 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 1: was here for one year. What do you have nine 1285 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: hundred yards? Yeah that thou hundred yards. Didn't like he 1286 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,000 Speaker 1: It catches up on you, you know, but it was like, yeah, 1287 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: he really did produce. He had a good year. He 1288 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: had one thousand and eighty two. Yeah. Yeah, it's just 1289 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: that moment to have a guy that he gets a 1290 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 1: step on the secondary and the secondary is like, oh crap, 1291 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,120 Speaker 1: like we gotta chase that. That's I mean, he had 1292 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 1: some big catches that year too, like, yeah, game winning touchdown. 1293 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: He also had seven touchdowns, which was second on the 1294 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: team to Gross eight. Yeah, and how many pis did 1295 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 1: he draw? I don't have that, but he had quite 1296 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 1: a few that were Yeah. How did they flip him? 1297 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to get into Mount Cooks again, 1298 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 1: but everybody flips him, you know, Yeah, it's kind of 1299 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 1: his He's been flipped a lot of value thing. You know. 1300 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 1: They like him on on their terms, and then they 1301 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: feel like they want to cut beat Tim and Connecticut. 1302 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 1: I see this draft as a huge letdown. I don't 1303 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 1: claim to know every player or how to evaluate a guard, 1304 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 1: but it seems like thirty one teams were aligned with 1305 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,719 Speaker 1: the consensus boards and Bill misread the entire board. Maybe 1306 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: Strange turns into Logan Makons, but I see Thornton as 1307 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: another track guy who doesn't pan out in the NFL, 1308 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: like Bethel Johnson. Marcus Jones reminds me of Ellis Hobbs. 1309 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: And the last thing I remember about him is the 1310 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: Plexico Burris catch in the Super Bowl. Jack Jones looks 1311 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,839 Speaker 1: like Terrence Wheatley, Pierre Strong looks like c J. Spiller. 1312 01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 1: It seems like Bill misred free agent Billow. It seems 1313 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 1: like Bill misred free agency last year with massive contracts 1314 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 1: and he again misread the draft. Wow, that's certainly as 1315 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 1: bad a scenario as you could paint right there, like 1316 01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Ellis Hobbs. Yeah, Bethel Johnson, you know, but I will say, 1317 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 1: if Peter Strong turns out to be c J. Spiller, 1318 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,679 Speaker 1: I'll be thrilled. C J. Spiller was a good player, 1319 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,759 Speaker 1: but the rest of it, I wouldn't be so excited. 1320 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 1: And I never really thought about the Ellis Hobbs thing, 1321 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,679 Speaker 1: But there's a profile there, great great kick returner, small 1322 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 1: had you know, kind of struggled as a as a 1323 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: regular full time corner and played outside corner too. So 1324 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: if they are they going to play him at outside cornerline, 1325 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 1: He's still my favorite draft pick out of the ten. 1326 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: I by far and away. The way I feel the 1327 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,600 Speaker 1: best about is Marcus Jones. Me too, and then I 1328 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,639 Speaker 1: feel confident about him at least contributing immediately. Obviously strange 1329 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: is what strange is. But I think Thornton is just 1330 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,560 Speaker 1: the the unknown. That's the like for me. If he 1331 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 1: kind of has he had the biggest upside of all 1332 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,479 Speaker 1: the picks, well, I think the upside would have to 1333 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: be Thornton. Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were still 1334 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: talking about Jones. Yeah, Thornton, I think so. I mean, 1335 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,080 Speaker 1: I think I think you asked the question last show 1336 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,640 Speaker 1: about is that is he like what I forget how 1337 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 1: you put it? Does he divide divide the draft? Something 1338 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: like that? But I think you know what to kind 1339 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: of expect from a lot of those high round guys, 1340 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't really expect much from the 1341 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: low round guys. I mean, if if they emerge and 1342 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 1: you get something great, but there's no like wow, we 1343 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: really need Andrew Stubert to come in and you know, 1344 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: be the right tackle. But I think if Jones is 1345 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 1: the if Thornton is the kind of guy that that 1346 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 1: you think he can be with the height and the 1347 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 1: speed on the outside, which you know, at the very 1348 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 1: least you put him outside and run down the field 1349 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,920 Speaker 1: and it's somebody to account for. But again, you know, Aglaura, 1350 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't think is you know slow. I mean, I 1351 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: think he's he's okay, but you know, but but he's not. Wow. 1352 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 1: That guy burns on the field like it's it's not NFL. 1353 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: He looks at a fine NFL speed. Yeah, I would 1354 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 1: say he's fast. I wouldn't say he's like that. I 1355 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: agree with you. And does Thornton have that gear that 1356 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: we're like, whoa this is? This is something we'll find 1357 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 1: out later in the month. Andre Andrea, New Jersey. I 1358 01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: predicted it. I emailed in a month ago and said 1359 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots will not take an off ball linebacker this year. 1360 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 1: They are going to play the young guys. Now, what 1361 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 1: kind of an ugly looking reach of a draft is? 1362 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: This explained to me? The reason for two running backs, 1363 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: which is so unnecessary. How about a quarterback in the 1364 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 1: fourth round when they could have gotten a guy undrafted 1365 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: in free agency like EJ. Perry that they were high on. 1366 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 1: I'll save the first round guard for other callers and emails, 1367 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 1: but the team keeps finding ways to piss me off. 1368 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,720 Speaker 1: Of strongly worded letter to follow. I hope those guys 1369 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: proved me wrong, but this could be as bad as 1370 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen class. I hope they work Outre's not happy. 1371 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 1: I know, I don't. I mean, we can't explain what 1372 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: they were picking. I mean, well, I mean, I'm not 1373 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 1: that surprised they thought they had to draft a running 1374 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 1: back at least one. I mean, you could be a 1375 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 1: little surprised they drafted too. But yeah, I thought that 1376 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,879 Speaker 1: was in need. I thought they had to draft cornerbacks 1377 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,679 Speaker 1: they did. I thought they I really wanted a wide 1378 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: receiver on Day two they did, you know. I mean, 1379 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: we can talk about did they get the right players, 1380 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,680 Speaker 1: but I think they got the right positions for the 1381 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,679 Speaker 1: most part. And there's some debate. Certainly, we just said 1382 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 1: edge defensive tackle. I just like the running back. I'm 1383 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 1: with you because we both agreed on that. We thought 1384 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 1: they would take a running back the corners. I don't 1385 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: feel like we're a like. I don't think you can 1386 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 1: take guys in the middle rounds and think that you 1387 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 1: addressed a position that that that's a major position of need. Um. 1388 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: That's why I kind of thought wide receiver would be 1389 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 1: on the after the Davante Parker trade. Wide receiver sort 1390 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,479 Speaker 1: of slid a little bit with me. But if they 1391 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 1: really liked this guy and this guy ends up being 1392 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: really good, then you know they'll have been proven correct. 1393 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,519 Speaker 1: Like you know what that guy who you know, I 1394 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,639 Speaker 1: know he was talking about Joey Galloway is the Patriot. 1395 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 1: But Joey Galloway was as dynamic and electric for a 1396 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 1: little while in the league as any. I remember being 1397 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 1: excited when they when they brought him in as he 1398 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,760 Speaker 1: was just one hundred and ten years old, way right 1399 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 1: here right. I think he was pretty much set in 1400 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 1: his way as he was part of that old nine 1401 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: team that just did it did just didn't work. Yeah, 1402 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,600 Speaker 1: he played a lot more though than a lot of 1403 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 1: those especial just decided you didn't want to play anymore, 1404 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: like in training camp, like Joey Galloway was part of 1405 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,640 Speaker 1: the team into September, but that team was Mike. You 1406 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 1: would have like you would have been Apple Party team. 1407 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 1: There was some oddities with the personalities in that locker room. 1408 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:22,240 Speaker 1: Sean Springs and Joey Galloway had played at Ohio State together. 1409 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 1: There was a little bit of yeah we would college teammates, 1410 01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure that they really liked each other 1411 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 1: all that much. Galloway, you know, like he would say things, 1412 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, he was like my little brother, and then 1413 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,720 Speaker 1: like later you'd be like, oh, I'm taking that in 1414 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: a little different way now, Like based on some things, 1415 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,600 Speaker 1: it was an odd mix that just didn't work, that 1416 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 1: the personalities didn't all mesh. It seemed like it seems 1417 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 1: especially hard to manage that in professional sports, as you know, 1418 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: like I think in college you kind of get a 1419 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, if your college coach or you know, you 1420 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 1: kind of sense, but pro players you gotta get certain guys, 1421 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,839 Speaker 1: but you just never know who's no, you know. Especially 1422 01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,080 Speaker 1: credit to Bill, I don't really think they've had a 1423 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: situation in the locker room at all. That was the 1424 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 1: glaring one. That was the one that stands out above 1425 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 1: all all the others. I think there have been some 1426 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,639 Speaker 1: minor problems here and there, but that was like credit 1427 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 1: to him for being around for twenty plus years and 1428 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 1: not having locker rooms that you look back on and 1429 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 1: say that that team people. Yeah, I mean, we haven't 1430 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 1: been in the locker room in two years. And I 1431 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 1: mean I remember what open media access was like for 1432 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 1: the one season I was here. I mean, how much 1433 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 1: of a sense do you get to those things when 1434 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: you're just you know, hanging out waiting for somebody to talk. 1435 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you get any kind of insight? 1436 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 1: Very little? Is it more about like after games, it's 1437 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 1: it's well, it's after the fact period when you start 1438 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: to see, like what do you think went wrong? You know, 1439 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 1: when you start talking in the offseason with maybe you know, 1440 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 1: certain players and things like that, and you start hearing 1441 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 1: some things. But I have to be honest, like while 1442 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,479 Speaker 1: that was happening, I never once I don't think we 1443 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,439 Speaker 1: had shows Fred and if you remember, but I don't 1444 01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 1: think we had shows during that season like this isn't 1445 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,679 Speaker 1: just this isn't mixing well, you know, this doesn't seem 1446 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 1: like a Dallas Thomas is the same guy that he was. 1447 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 1: Now they had the famous incident where the four players 1448 01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 1: were late for practice that day. Yeah, and that was that, 1449 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, that was a major thing. It would be 1450 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,679 Speaker 1: the Jetsons. Yeah, yeah, I just I can't I can't 1451 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 1: rule that out completely over the last couple of seasons, 1452 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: just based on how the season. So I think there 1453 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: were problems last year, yes, you know, and again and 1454 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,600 Speaker 1: I said this before the show, where it's just it 1455 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 1: didn't they didn't have they didn't come together and play 1456 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: better than some of the parts they kind of fell 1457 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,240 Speaker 1: apart and played individual football and they got run over. 1458 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: Didn't did we? Uh? Didn't? We get indications during the 1459 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 1: Boogeyman season that some deep guys in defense didn't really 1460 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, yeah, Mike's right about that's what you said. 1461 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,880 Speaker 1: The last the last couple of years, there was that, 1462 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean last year with there were a couple of 1463 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: quotes last year that stood out to me. One was 1464 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,920 Speaker 1: the Slater quote about, you know, when they were hitting 1465 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,760 Speaker 1: that losing streak, you know, we could go one of 1466 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,760 Speaker 1: two ways, and we have to decide which one we 1467 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 1: want to be. And then was it Van Noy on 1468 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 1: somebody's podcast talking about how, you know, Jude on getting 1469 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 1: to do whatever he wants to do with one. You know, 1470 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:12,600 Speaker 1: I think, you know, there were many times that I 1471 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 1: think mccordy made references to you know and yep, yeah, 1472 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,960 Speaker 1: confusion and whatnot. I just think I'm forgiving in September. 1473 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 1: I kind of want to see what happens, you know, 1474 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 1: if the offensive line doesn't play great in September, or 1475 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,000 Speaker 1: they come out flat, they have a bad game in 1476 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: September and early October, I get it, but I my 1477 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,559 Speaker 1: expectation is and I would say this probably about any 1478 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 1: team or sport, is that when you come to the 1479 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:38,720 Speaker 1: end of the season and you've been practicing together and 1480 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 1: you've been you know, building to this crescendo of the 1481 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 1: end of season, and you can talk about after Thanksgiving 1482 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,080 Speaker 1: they played their best football, all that kind of stuff, 1483 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 1: and when they teams play their worst football, it's just 1484 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 1: a it's a big red flag. And I'm not I'm 1485 01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,599 Speaker 1: not as forgiving of it. And you know, as Bill said, 1486 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out next season when we start 1487 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: playing again if that was a bad night or if 1488 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,680 Speaker 1: that's who we are. But I hope that you know, 1489 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,719 Speaker 1: strides have been taken it. The day after day after 1490 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the Buffalo loss, when he talked about last year, I 1491 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 1: remember that, remember those days yesterday, let's go back to 1492 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 1: the phones, Sean said, Vancouver, what's up, Sean? Hey everyone? Yeah, 1493 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 1: I was really disappointed on Sunday with the draft, and 1494 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: I didn't ex especially since the draft wasn't on Sunday. 1495 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 1: He said on Sunday he was disappointing them. It's kind 1496 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 1: of the it's kind of the argue about the joke, 1497 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,040 Speaker 1: because he's the antithesis of you what's gonna argue about 1498 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 1: this after the draft he was disappointed you. By the 1499 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 1: time the draft is over, you bring you you wrap 1500 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,599 Speaker 1: yourself back around. We'll spin it a little bit. Okay, 1501 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I meant. There's no spin go ahead 1502 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 1: shots in the factory. I didn't exercise where I ducked 1503 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,600 Speaker 1: with Patriots original picks, and I just went through the 1504 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 1: draft and took players that I thought or were projected 1505 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 1: to go at at good spots and people I thought 1506 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots needs. Like for example, at twenty one, I 1507 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 1: took trend A Duffy for Travis Jones, eighty five Leo 1508 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,479 Speaker 1: Channel one, twenty seven guards Zach tom one to the 1509 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 1: eight wide receiver Kyle Phillips. Yeah, so you get the pictures. 1510 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,599 Speaker 1: I'm looking at at these picks and like, Okay, maybe 1511 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 1: they're they're good, they're going to be great. I don't know. 1512 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,160 Speaker 1: But whether I don't see on it is I don't 1513 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,640 Speaker 1: see the speed. So this is this is what the Patriots, 1514 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 1: like you said, what they were really focused on. They 1515 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 1: were looking for fast players and that's what they went for. 1516 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,680 Speaker 1: And when we look back on this staff, so we're 1517 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 1: going to be seeing something you know, like two thousand 1518 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,799 Speaker 1: and five. I know, obviously, um, I don't expect Strange 1519 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 1: to be Mankins, but are we going to get some players, 1520 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 1: like maybe even five players who who played fifteen games 1521 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So let's let's see what happens. I'm 1522 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 1: gonna be looking back at these picks and see how 1523 01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 1: they do in comparison. Absolutely all right, Thanks Sean. Sean 1524 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 1: calling in from the past. What it sounds like. Do 1525 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,600 Speaker 1: you think of the Patriots had drafted Slade Bolden in 1526 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 1: the fourth round, there'd be like us significant subset of 1527 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:02,479 Speaker 1: people are like it was, I mean, they got Slay 1528 01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,519 Speaker 1: Bolden though in the fourth I don't think you. I 1529 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,880 Speaker 1: don't think you'd be prepared for the amount of negativity 1530 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,639 Speaker 1: that would have come if they had drafted. No, correctly, 1531 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. No, but I think that most people, 1532 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: like most most people would have been apoplectic if they 1533 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 1: took that guy. I know. It's just it just shows 1534 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,519 Speaker 1: like how people value certain players and everybody Slay Bolden 1535 01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 1: or we Riot, like, you know, people tweeting that at 1536 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 1: me and I'm like, he's not even gonna get drafted, 1537 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 1: Like what so, where did your guy Phillips end up 1538 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 1: Tennessee and that was the other thing they were arguing 1539 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,040 Speaker 1: about today, Paul on your show. Um, you know, like 1540 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,200 Speaker 1: how how my show has even started? The draft is 1541 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: the draft is about everybody being wrong, like even the experts, 1542 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 1: and even that I kind of disagree. I mean, they 1543 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,680 Speaker 1: don't get the exact player for every team, but for 1544 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,879 Speaker 1: the most part, they're in the neighborhood of where everybody 1545 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 1: goes from the most part. And that's what I hate, 1546 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Like the and again this is the this year we're 1547 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 1: doing this. Yeah, like who's grading the graders? You know, 1548 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,519 Speaker 1: like no one ever wondered, like who was grading mel 1549 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,640 Speaker 1: Kiper's grade when they were getting a's. Now that that 1550 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 1: he gave him a C plus, everybody's you know, wants 1551 01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 1: to know what his credentials are, Like who's this guy? Right? 1552 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,280 Speaker 1: I just look at it and said, if you thought 1553 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen it was an A and that draft, 1554 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 1: which is which he did, right, I can only imagine 1555 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 1: how bad he thinks this draft is that he thought 1556 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,680 Speaker 1: it was a C plus, Right, That's how I look 1557 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,800 Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, Like I just you can tell me 1558 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: that you like some of these guys more than some 1559 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 1: of the draft experts, and that's fine. Like everybody has 1560 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,680 Speaker 1: their opinions. I think Mike likes Taekwon Thornton more than 1561 01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 1: I do. I think we both in agreement that we 1562 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 1: both really like Marcus Jones. I'm not telling you that 1563 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 1: this is a wipeout. I like Cole Strange the player. 1564 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,840 Speaker 1: I think he was drafted a little too high, but 1565 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't have to go and like take 1566 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,960 Speaker 1: all of the national guys and rip them apart because 1567 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 1: they gave my team a bad draft grade. I think 1568 01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,680 Speaker 1: draft grades is silly. But but in in defense of me, 1569 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 1: I thought they were silly when they were getting nas 1570 01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,600 Speaker 1: every year, Yeah, without ever having played a down. And 1571 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 1: I don't think this is any more silly than that. 1572 01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 1: But these draft people, they do put in the time, 1573 01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,400 Speaker 1: the Dan Jeremiah's and the Dane Bruglers and the melk 1574 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: kiper and no one doesn't with the intention of getting 1575 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 1: every pick in the slot that they're taking. No, that's 1576 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,840 Speaker 1: not the that's not the goals, right, it's it's you know, 1577 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,800 Speaker 1: who are the top guys? You know, you know, you try, 1578 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 1: you try to say who might make sense for this team. 1579 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Some guys just ranked the players. They don't even do it, 1580 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, based on who picking, yeah, you know, like 1581 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 1: the first round, right, Like, like, let's just say, for 1582 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 1: arguments sake, that Kenny Pickett was the twentieth best player 1583 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,560 Speaker 1: in this draft. He's not, but let's just say he was, 1584 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 1: and they would just put him twentieth, right, whether maybe 1585 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots were picking twenty if there's no way they 1586 01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 1: would have taken Kenny Pickett, right, Some guys that do 1587 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,160 Speaker 1: these mock rats, they're not. Their goal isn't to get 1588 01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,760 Speaker 1: it right. The goal is to rank the players. Other 1589 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 1: guys try to slot the teams with the players. But 1590 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,640 Speaker 1: you made the point, almost all of these guys have 1591 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,000 Speaker 1: a vast I think we ended up with like twenty 1592 01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 1: six and we don't even know we're doing. We did 1593 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 1: it in like ten minutes, like but you know, between 1594 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 1: filling up you know with gas. Uh, Like Mike and 1595 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,080 Speaker 1: I seriously did not spend a whole lot of time 1596 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,360 Speaker 1: doing a mock draft. We got almost all of the 1597 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 1: first round picks taken in the first round, right right, that, 1598 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all. Like I just hate the the 1599 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,200 Speaker 1: the wild Andy Hart swing from the corner because I'm 1600 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,360 Speaker 1: back into a corner because my team was was criticized 1601 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,040 Speaker 1: and I have to just rip everybody that that maybe 1602 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 1: had something negative to say. Uh, let's get back to 1603 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:45,080 Speaker 1: the phones. Cody's in Cincinnati. Hey Cody, Oh boy, what's 1604 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 1: what's going on the phone talking to your Yes we can, 1605 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,760 Speaker 1: we can hear you, but you're not a good kick out. 1606 01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,720 Speaker 1: Uh okay, Well I'll just say the short then I'm 1607 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 1: from the moon. Yeah, it's like, yeah, the International Space Station. 1608 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,920 Speaker 1: Maybe I got my ways. He's a guy that we're 1609 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 1: all sort of looking forward to seeing. Sorry, Cody, it's 1610 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 1: a tough connection. Yeah. I think it's not your fault. 1611 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,200 Speaker 1: I think the phone has let you down. I think 1612 01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,640 Speaker 1: that Tae Kwon Thornton is a guy that we're all 1613 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,479 Speaker 1: sort of anxious, intrigued, intrigued. I'm not going to tell 1614 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,599 Speaker 1: you that he's gonna step in and be Randy Moss 1615 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but I'm intrigued. Well, you mentioned it, like, 1616 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 1: is it possible to say that everybody's draft, not just 1617 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots, there's one guy that defines that draft good 1618 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,599 Speaker 1: or bad, you know. So last year it was probably 1619 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:39,400 Speaker 1: Matt Jones. He defined the twoy twenty one draft agreed. 1620 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,920 Speaker 1: You know who would it be this year? You know 1621 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,760 Speaker 1: who will be hard? Good or bad? Yeah? Harder, harder 1622 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 1: to say. But I think that Thornton's a good choice 1623 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,400 Speaker 1: because I don't think like even the two corners, like, 1624 01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting either of them and this is not 1625 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,719 Speaker 1: a good thing, but expecting them to be a starting 1626 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,080 Speaker 1: on the team. You took a wide receiver in the 1627 01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 1: second round, and you needed a fast wide receiver. But 1628 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,000 Speaker 1: I think that in this you're gonna make fun of me. 1629 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,200 Speaker 1: I know, but that's okay, Okay, you're gonna look at this. 1630 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna look at this as a negative take. I 1631 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,120 Speaker 1: think this draft is going to be defined by the 1632 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,760 Speaker 1: guys that they passed on between twenty one and twenty nine, 1633 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 1: and the three wide receivers that got taken right after Thornton. 1634 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 1: If those guys are really if Trent McDuffie's a really 1635 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 1: good corner and George Pickens or Alec Peters, you a 1636 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,439 Speaker 1: guy is a really good wide receiver and your guys 1637 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,439 Speaker 1: are just average right look out below. But that's the point. 1638 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 1: If Thornton's really good, we don't care about all that 1639 01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,439 Speaker 1: other guys are better. But well, if they're a little better, 1640 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: but if Thornton's producing for our team, we'll be fine 1641 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 1: with that. Well, I have to see what the other 1642 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,439 Speaker 1: guys are doing. That's why I think it's gonna be defined. 1643 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,720 Speaker 1: Like if Alec Pierce goes on to be like a 1644 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,280 Speaker 1: six time All Pro and your guy is just okay, 1645 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,760 Speaker 1: he's just you know, another receiver, I think you're gonna 1646 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 1: look at it and say, we blew it. Yeah, if 1647 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,200 Speaker 1: he's that much better, you'll be saying That's why I 1648 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,360 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be defined. Again, I get it. It's 1649 01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 1: a kind of a negative look at it. I don't 1650 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,439 Speaker 1: mean it that way, but this is so those first 1651 01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:07,559 Speaker 1: two picks were so outside of where those guys were 1652 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 1: supposed to go. You can't help but look at the 1653 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,479 Speaker 1: guys that were taken. And then yeah, in the vicinity 1654 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,640 Speaker 1: the guys that you pass. So those two guys and 1655 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 1: you better hope the other guys aren't great. Yeah, it's 1656 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,720 Speaker 1: it's a two part equation, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, 1657 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,519 Speaker 1: like your guy being good in someone else's guy being 1658 01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 1: an All Pro. You missed the All Pro. And it's 1659 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 1: a really high ceiling for strange to like for him 1660 01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,040 Speaker 1: to live up. He almost but he see I look 1661 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,600 Speaker 1: at the opposite, it's almost impossible for him to be 1662 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,800 Speaker 1: so bad. I guess that too. I think if you 1663 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 1: ask if you asked a hundred Patriots fans about Isaiah 1664 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 1: Wynn right now, they would tell you he's fine when 1665 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 1: he plays. Yeah, that's why, even though he hasn't been, 1666 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 1: they'll tell you he's fine when he plays. That's why 1667 01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't think it will be defined by the first 1668 01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:56,720 Speaker 1: round pick. I think it's I agree with you, guys 1669 01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 1: on Thornton. I think he's more of a referendum right 1670 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 1: on the class itself because a guard is too high. 1671 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,759 Speaker 1: You went with a fast wide receiver at a smaller school, 1672 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,400 Speaker 1: from a smaller school. Yeah, I agree with you. You know, yeah, Um, 1673 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 1: Justin's in Virginia, Hey Justin. Yeah, that's it going you guys. 1674 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,600 Speaker 1: I want to kind of continue on with the conversation 1675 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 1: you just said. Is it overly nitpicky to say that, 1676 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 1: like even if Pole Strange is like a pro Bowl guard, 1677 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,760 Speaker 1: to say, well, damn, Like when you took shot ball 1678 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the draft, you still got a 1679 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,640 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guard, right, And I don't. I don't have 1680 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 1: anything against the player. But the action of taking a guard. 1681 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 1: That's why I say what Trent mcduffio Jamaine Johnson does 1682 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,640 Speaker 1: is good because those are harder. You're not You're not 1683 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,200 Speaker 1: those are harder to get. Like the guard. Jack Mason 1684 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl caliber guard. I mean some of 1685 01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,800 Speaker 1: those analytics sites had him the best Patriot last year. Well, 1686 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 1: even if you were gonna reach I think a guy 1687 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 1: like high year Elam, you look at him and say, 1688 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 1: he might reach that the cornerback depth chart, he might 1689 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,400 Speaker 1: be a number one or two guy on the cornerback 1690 01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 1: that start. Then that knocks everyone else down and you 1691 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,000 Speaker 1: just look at that position differently. Yeah, I think we 1692 01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 1: could have gotten like a guard and like so like 1693 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,040 Speaker 1: three interior linemen between like the fourth and seventh pick, 1694 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:16,040 Speaker 1: and we would have still kind of looked at the 1695 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:21,520 Speaker 1: guard position similarly. Honestly. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and that's 1696 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,479 Speaker 1: the point of a lot of people with that real 1697 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 1: quick think. I would feel better if they took a 1698 01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,000 Speaker 1: guard like a round or two later. Yeah, Like I 1699 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 1: have no listen, they had to get it. They had 1700 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,000 Speaker 1: to get a guard, they had to get a guy 1701 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,080 Speaker 1: that they had to be a candidate to start. I 1702 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,120 Speaker 1: get it, they had to do it. I just would 1703 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 1: feel better if we could have gotten something else in 1704 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 1: the first round. Do you think, though, that there's something 1705 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 1: we said and that this is a team in a 1706 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 1: position right now where they just need to hit doubles 1707 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,160 Speaker 1: and they don't need to swing for the fences because 1708 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 1: they need players who can come in and play solid 1709 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 1: more than like Strange. Strange definitely falls into that. But 1710 01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,320 Speaker 1: Thorton for the fences. Yeah, well, and I think the 1711 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 1: two I think the two Jones boys are swinging for 1712 01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,840 Speaker 1: the fences too. Those guys might be really good, and 1713 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 1: they might be out of the league in two years. 1714 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,320 Speaker 1: Like if for Marcus Jones in particular, you know, I'm 1715 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,200 Speaker 1: really high on him. He might just be too small. Yeah, 1716 01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,720 Speaker 1: that could happen, but that's to me, that's a swing 1717 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 1: for the fence. Thorton, especially, Thorton's a guy who could fly, 1718 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,880 Speaker 1: who most people thought was like a fifth round pick. 1719 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 1: You take him up, you trade up to get him 1720 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:25,960 Speaker 1: in the second round. I mean, I guess just focusing 1721 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,000 Speaker 1: on Strange, that's I keep going back to. If like 1722 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,720 Speaker 1: Strange as that guy, I certainly would take Strange over 1723 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,360 Speaker 1: Sony Michelle. I'd certainly take Strange over Ni kill Harry. 1724 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,479 Speaker 1: You know some of the other whisps you would now, yeah, yeah, 1725 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 1: but I don't know, but yeah, but I know it's 1726 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 1: it's yeah, you have the benefit of hindsight right with them. 1727 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 1: But but we we weren't all sitting here like what 1728 01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: when when when Nikki Harry got picked, We're like, Okay, 1729 01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Now I hated because of the position. I'm very consistent, 1730 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 1: but not because I thought Sony Michelle couldn't play. I 1731 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 1: thought he was really good. I didn't know the Nie 1732 01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 1: stuff at the time until we drafted. Let's go to 1733 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Nelson in La Hey Nelson today? Hey, yes, uh can 1734 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 1: you hear? Yeah? Ad and Claire you've had you have 1735 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,679 Speaker 1: you get the award for best connection so far? Yep? Yeah? 1736 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, talking about how about we like messed 1737 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 1: up on the draft? What about we get these though? 1738 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 1: What about it don't matter about what dar player you got. 1739 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,360 Speaker 1: What about he comes at work every week, does his job, 1740 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,960 Speaker 1: doesn't get injured. He's not gonna get a lot of 1741 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,439 Speaker 1: yards or nothing like that. But as long as we 1742 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,960 Speaker 1: get that w I'm good with the draft pick this week. 1743 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 1: This week? Yeah, what if we don't get the w 1744 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:50,680 Speaker 1: who is this strange? Whoever? Whoever? As long as they win, 1745 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 1: you're good. Yeah, And I agree, who's gonna argue if 1746 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,759 Speaker 1: they win? If they go seventeen and oh, great draft? 1747 01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:00,200 Speaker 1: I think they got three great draft picks last and 1748 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,720 Speaker 1: what happened? And what happens if they go seven and ten? 1749 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,479 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. I mean, it's you know, Nelson, Nelson, 1750 01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,240 Speaker 1: you know. The thing is like, you can't win unless 1751 01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:14,120 Speaker 1: you have strong drafts consistently, and you can't have you know. Yeah, 1752 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 1: So if you're getting w's, you've been drafting. Well day yesterday, nice, 1753 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:28,240 Speaker 1: happy birthday, Nelson. You sorry, Matt, I'm jealous, Paul, thanks, 1754 01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:32,679 Speaker 1: thanks Nelson from me, you don't even like Star Wars. 1755 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,360 Speaker 1: I get everything from you either that Feld or bass 1756 01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 1: Ramone and Tampa. My take on the show, this show, 1757 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,320 Speaker 1: and forgive my writing skills. I love it and tune in. 1758 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,080 Speaker 1: It's changed in the ten plus years i've been listening. 1759 01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,599 Speaker 1: Paul seems to have become someone else slightly after Andy left, 1760 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,680 Speaker 1: similarly to Eric, but you guys are still loved. The 1761 01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,560 Speaker 1: only thing I change is better. You mean, I don't know. 1762 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you the biggest difference between me now and 1763 01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 1: me when Andy was here. Yeah, I only argue with 1764 01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,519 Speaker 1: Fred now. I used to argue with Andy Ann fresh 1765 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 1: your blood pressure. We gotta get Brian Morey bad. Oh god, 1766 01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,559 Speaker 1: now that was I mean, no one, No one get 1767 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,679 Speaker 1: under my skin like Fred never gets under my skin 1768 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,479 Speaker 1: like Brian Morey did. I No, he I can see that. Brian, 1769 01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I know, I know enough I 1770 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,240 Speaker 1: can see his like how he epitome of Brian Moorey 1771 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,120 Speaker 1: is let me tell you why you're wrong, which which 1772 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,280 Speaker 1: drives this one nuts. Let me let me tell you 1773 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,720 Speaker 1: why you don't know what you're talking about. Uh, he says. 1774 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 1: The things he change are less talking over each other. 1775 01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:37,680 Speaker 1: That's good, more new blood emails and callers that I 1776 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,160 Speaker 1: am I wholeheartedly agree with. But that's up to you, guys, 1777 01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:42,680 Speaker 1: that's up to the list. You know what's funny, like 1778 01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: not that we want to copy what is going on 1779 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,080 Speaker 1: and Paul shows, but how many shows does he have? 1780 01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,519 Speaker 1: But on all my Felgren mad But on all those shows, 1781 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 1: it does seem like the same callers sometimes get that 1782 01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,559 Speaker 1: literally all this it's been around longer, right us, Right, 1783 01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:01,720 Speaker 1: that's right, Fred, you should have seen some of the 1784 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,280 Speaker 1: battles Fred used to have with Felger. Felger used to 1785 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,960 Speaker 1: do a show on ESPN Radio and he had a 1786 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,680 Speaker 1: Patriots Friday and he would come into here, into our 1787 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,840 Speaker 1: studio to do it, and players would come in periodically 1788 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,720 Speaker 1: and we would do a crossover because we would set 1789 01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,680 Speaker 1: it up. Remember it was on Patriots dot com, right, 1790 01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 1: so we would set it up and they would do 1791 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,000 Speaker 1: a crossover. And you think, you know me, I've never 1792 01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 1: backed up. I was a shrinking violin compared to the 1793 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:29,040 Speaker 1: way Felger and Fred would just go at it. Oh screaming. 1794 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:33,160 Speaker 1: He called me a liar and oh yeah, and they 1795 01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,559 Speaker 1: would like five minutes, right, and they would be finished, 1796 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 1: and then it was just good job, good jobs, Fred, 1797 01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:41,880 Speaker 1: leave it go have a good show. How much has 1798 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,720 Speaker 1: Felger refined his his game over over the years, I 1799 01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,080 Speaker 1: mean was he did he come in, he was in 1800 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,400 Speaker 1: the paper. He's more polished in terms of like ins 1801 01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,760 Speaker 1: and outs and running a show. He used to be, 1802 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, just sort of a guy who had opinions 1803 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 1: and was good when he was giving his opinions, but 1804 01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily getting in and out of topics or break 1805 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,880 Speaker 1: He's more more polished. I would say, I don't think 1806 01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,599 Speaker 1: his any question about it, but but he got friends, 1807 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,080 Speaker 1: not lying, he got everything from I mean, like that 1808 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,240 Speaker 1: that all started here, That started right here in this ship, 1809 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,800 Speaker 1: right here, in this studio. It was like you talk 1810 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:21,439 Speaker 1: about Radio Gold, we're going back to like go four five. Yeah, 1811 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, a long time there was nothing to argue about, 1812 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,320 Speaker 1: but we would. I mean we were fourteen and two 1813 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:27,680 Speaker 1: every year, but we found a way to yell at 1814 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: each other. It was I mean, like knocked down, drag 1815 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:35,360 Speaker 1: out fights three games. That's gonna cost you in the 1816 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,759 Speaker 1: AC Championship game when you're on the road. Like literally, 1817 01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 1: we'd have a half hour on that. But the thing 1818 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,360 Speaker 1: I like to tease Felger about it. I haven't talked 1819 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:43,880 Speaker 1: to him in a long time, but you know, he 1820 01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,280 Speaker 1: used to be the beat writer here and when he was, 1821 01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,040 Speaker 1: you think Mike Reese is in their pocket or you know, 1822 01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,680 Speaker 1: and I say, Mike really isn't. He's just factual, But 1823 01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 1: Felger was in the pocket. To the point when Robert 1824 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,759 Speaker 1: had his fortieth anniversary, it was me, Felger and Scott 1825 01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,640 Speaker 1: Pioli at a table. So that's how he was, like 1826 01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 1: in you know him and Rabel used to go out 1827 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,320 Speaker 1: a little bit too well. Rabel went out with everybody. 1828 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 1: He was the best. Yeah, Rabel would bust anyone's ball 1829 01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,639 Speaker 1: like I'd walk in like he busted Teddy Bruski's balls 1830 01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,600 Speaker 1: for having a stroke. I know, I read about it. 1831 01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,160 Speaker 1: I'd walk in with like a like a brown dress 1832 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 1: shirt on going with the fall colors today? What what 1833 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,120 Speaker 1: the fraud TV show you're gonna be on today? Ball 1834 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,920 Speaker 1: like like, hey, Mike, Hey, good to see you. You know, 1835 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 1: I didn't realize we were doing that, but okay, Yeah, 1836 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,439 Speaker 1: he's got a friend like that. I love I love him, 1837 01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,680 Speaker 1: but I would fight him that there. I've got a 1838 01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 1: couple of friends like that. Oh I love you. He's 1839 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,360 Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's one of those guys. And 1840 01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,000 Speaker 1: then you know, God forbid, you're out with it for 1841 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,880 Speaker 1: a beer or something. He's not that I was ever 1842 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:42,360 Speaker 1: out for a beer with Mike Rabel, but I could 1843 01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,519 Speaker 1: imagine he's He's the guy that you always had a babysit. Yeah, yeah, 1844 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, do you ever have that because he's got 1845 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,240 Speaker 1: a smart mouth. Oh yeah, you ever have that friend 1846 01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:50,439 Speaker 1: that you got a couple in him? And all of 1847 01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, you gotta put like five guys around your 1848 01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,599 Speaker 1: friend to make sure everybody gets out of the barrow. 1849 01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Gates, if you're listening, you I can only imagine 1850 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:07,000 Speaker 1: if Paul wasn't that guy I was. I swear to god, 1851 01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 1: I was nothing even close to that guy. Oh my god, 1852 01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,760 Speaker 1: Ramone writes it. So he told us the things he 1853 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,800 Speaker 1: wants us to get A one more cut calls that 1854 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:20,560 Speaker 1: drag quicker. I listen, I have a new name on 1855 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,519 Speaker 1: the call, the call right now. I give him a chance. 1856 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 1: Uh he says. Now about the team, I really don't 1857 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,800 Speaker 1: know what to think about where we are. I don't 1858 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,120 Speaker 1: feel strong about the players coaching chances next year. Objectively, 1859 01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,080 Speaker 1: I hope Robert has told Bill that he has two 1860 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,840 Speaker 1: years to do something meaningful. But if this year is 1861 01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:42,080 Speaker 1: just underwhelming, uh um. But if this year is just underwhelming, 1862 01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,320 Speaker 1: he goes Alec Baldwin on him, put that coffee down, 1863 01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 1: coffees for closers only. It may sound unfair, but nostalgia 1864 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 1: and mediocrity doesn't get us where we all want to be. 1865 01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:59,719 Speaker 1: ABC right always be. That was from the Alec Baldwin 1866 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,519 Speaker 1: side in the last sketch where he pretended to be 1867 01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,960 Speaker 1: the head elf and it's a good one. Look at 1868 01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:09,640 Speaker 1: Glen Garry. Glenn Rose was Ross Ross What Ross There 1869 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:14,720 Speaker 1: was a great movie, great movie, great actors places. He 1870 01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,680 Speaker 1: had a lot of good late eighties, early nineties. Um 1871 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,639 Speaker 1: I caught him forget it. And there was one thriller 1872 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,240 Speaker 1: he did that I where he was like a doctor. 1873 01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm a yeah that was the name of Yah Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1874 01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,360 Speaker 1: god complex. Yeah. He also had a really a disturbing 1875 01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:34,560 Speaker 1: crime movie where he was like a criminal. It was 1876 01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,080 Speaker 1: like Blue Moon or something like that, where like he 1877 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:43,280 Speaker 1: cuts off his own fingers, like yeah, he's it's really good. 1878 01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 1: I mean he could as like a dark evil guy 1879 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,360 Speaker 1: and it's And then those guys when they actually have 1880 01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,880 Speaker 1: a sense of humor are really funny too. Yeah humor 1881 01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,360 Speaker 1: canteen boy, you ever say that one with that? I'm 1882 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:55,920 Speaker 1: standing run that's a good one too. Morell knows all right, Um, 1883 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,840 Speaker 1: what was I gonna do? Oh? Take go back to 1884 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:01,479 Speaker 1: the phone, because is that the same Saturday Live that 1885 01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,080 Speaker 1: he was the Pete Schwady that maybe? I mean he's 1886 01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:06,760 Speaker 1: but he's like how many that nine times? Did he? 1887 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:12,400 Speaker 1: Hope it? I don't know. Unfilled yeah, sweaty balls, like 1888 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:18,800 Speaker 1: it's a problem men suffer from what um is that 1889 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:27,160 Speaker 1: Parlo's disease. That's a little person. That's the crooked the 1890 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,600 Speaker 1: bent Carrott. Yeah what wow? I thought you would just 1891 01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:38,240 Speaker 1: call him be fat? No? No, what get okay? Now, 1892 01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't I thought you spoke fred I do. That's true. 1893 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,840 Speaker 1: Dropped the ball was in Paul had a bent appendage? Yes, 1894 01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:51,800 Speaker 1: I think he was. He was. It's called yeah the 1895 01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:55,600 Speaker 1: dog leg left. The commercial they showed the ben you 1896 01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:01,599 Speaker 1: gonna get a quick night this afternoon saw there. I'm 1897 01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, like I'm no prude, all right, 1898 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:07,040 Speaker 1: like I don't get offended, blah blah blah. But some 1899 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,720 Speaker 1: of these commercials now, especially like the channels of my 1900 01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:14,280 Speaker 1: wife watches like we and Start or whatever, like they're 1901 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:19,679 Speaker 1: really really grad It's like, you know, um, erectile function. Yeah, 1902 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:23,439 Speaker 1: panties that don't leak and this and that, and it's 1903 01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,280 Speaker 1: like it's really graphic, like we're twenty years ago, like 1904 01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:30,160 Speaker 1: it wouldn't allow that stuff on. You know, it's a 1905 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,240 Speaker 1: different world we're living. So there's a lot of odd 1906 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,120 Speaker 1: commercials on. I will say that it's just two ed commercials. Well, 1907 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:39,400 Speaker 1: that's a graphic and she'll like it too, Thomas. Yeah, 1908 01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:48,559 Speaker 1: and she's like eugenics, Yeah, a joke. We're leaving nothing 1909 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,479 Speaker 1: to the imagination. No, you know, well, I think it 1910 01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,040 Speaker 1: always tells you something about yourself based on what ads 1911 01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,800 Speaker 1: are being fed into the show, right, why you know 1912 01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:03,479 Speaker 1: what they think? Right, you're like looking down speaking of Yeah, 1913 01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:07,759 Speaker 1: I saw the yeah, speaking of I saw the finale 1914 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,040 Speaker 1: of Mozark. Oh yeah, and uh, your scoutter report, I 1915 01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,160 Speaker 1: know not. I know you didn't see it because you 1916 01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,040 Speaker 1: don't want to show you said that. You just a messenger. 1917 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,000 Speaker 1: You heard it was excellent. It was not excellent. Oh really, Oh, 1918 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,360 Speaker 1: sorry to hear that. No, it was it was a letter. 1919 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,960 Speaker 1: I thought. The last the last seven, you know, it 1920 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,040 Speaker 1: was like a half season. They did it. They dropped 1921 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:30,600 Speaker 1: the season four was dropped in two seven part episodes, 1922 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,920 Speaker 1: and the last the last seven. We're not good. The 1923 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,160 Speaker 1: trailer for a House of Dragons is out the prequel 1924 01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,920 Speaker 1: to the Game of Thrones, and then it looks good. 1925 01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,360 Speaker 1: If you can't make your trailer look good, forget about 1926 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 1: the show. You know. Of course, it looked good, it 1927 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,360 Speaker 1: looked great. I enjoyed Game of Thrones. It was what 1928 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,680 Speaker 1: it was as far as the ending. But I don't. 1929 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:50,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm out. I don't. I don't know. I 1930 01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,640 Speaker 1: come down. I think like I can't invest, and like 1931 01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:59,040 Speaker 1: I hear that about the Targarians, that's that's a big 1932 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,479 Speaker 1: fred is him. I don't have time. I hear that, 1933 01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,720 Speaker 1: though I hear that, it's it's a lot. Is is 1934 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,519 Speaker 1: Martin never gonna finish the books? He's I don't know, 1935 01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,800 Speaker 1: didn't he not? He keeps like dripping things out like this, 1936 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: what's really gonna be long? Hey man, flight attend I know, 1937 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,640 Speaker 1: what's the point. Well, you can do your previous look 1938 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,120 Speaker 1: too weird for me. I don't think I'm gonna watch 1939 01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 1: season two. I watched, like I think we saw the 1940 01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,200 Speaker 1: first two episodes, but I haven't seen one in a while. 1941 01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm just was curious if you were watching Flight Attendant. 1942 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,519 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't figure out if she's good looking 1943 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 1: or not. Like sometimes she's like a two faces. The 1944 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,400 Speaker 1: answer is yes, Sometimes it's she looks good and sometimes 1945 01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,680 Speaker 1: she does hundred percent. Can't get it, can't pin her down, 1946 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:42,519 Speaker 1: Not sure. Sometimes yes, sometimes I think she's pretty odd. Yeah, yeah, 1947 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't make me a creepy old man. I don't know. 1948 01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,599 Speaker 1: She's just a famous actress. I think. Is that okay, 1949 01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:52,280 Speaker 1: famous actress? It's okay, yeah, yeah. The fact that she's like, 1950 01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, probably could go out with will. I think 1951 01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,040 Speaker 1: she's older. Actually, no, she was on Big Banks. There's 1952 01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,000 Speaker 1: actually I think she's in a like late thirties or forties, 1953 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,519 Speaker 1: late thirties. I thought you should look up Kayley quoko 1954 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:06,639 Speaker 1: A pretty sure she's my age. Oh, thirties. I don't 1955 01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,400 Speaker 1: feel as creepy. I thought she was in her thirties. 1956 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:12,120 Speaker 1: Two guy, I can say that. I don't know. Wasn't 1957 01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,960 Speaker 1: she on some other show too? Eight Simple Rules Dating? 1958 01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh right, that's thirty six thirty six, it's not it's 1959 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:22,360 Speaker 1: not that creepy. Yeah. Uh. Let's go back to the phone. 1960 01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:27,920 Speaker 1: It's in Connecticut. What's up on that swan? Actually it's 1961 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,439 Speaker 1: one man okay, banish for John Okay. I have two 1962 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,240 Speaker 1: quick questions for you guys. Uh, I want to hear 1963 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,920 Speaker 1: your thoughts. Uh. My first question is, do you guys 1964 01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:43,120 Speaker 1: see a potential Marcus Jones being a Tyrek Hill type receiver, 1965 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,960 Speaker 1: maybe beat from up a little bit. What are your 1966 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:50,080 Speaker 1: thoughts on that? No, well, he'd have to change. They've 1967 01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,400 Speaker 1: talked about pay I know he played offense. I'm not 1968 01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:55,000 Speaker 1: I know that, but I think they I think they 1969 01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,280 Speaker 1: drafted him as a corner. No, yeah, I think so 1970 01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,800 Speaker 1: return around, I would be my guess. I think will 1971 01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,880 Speaker 1: you'd be surprised if you see him take some rel 1972 01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 1: And that's why I don't dismiss it, right, I think 1973 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,479 Speaker 1: one I think one's question is legit. Yeah. Yeah, I 1974 01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,160 Speaker 1: don't know if he's that quick though, Is he like 1975 01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,600 Speaker 1: not Tyreek Hill quick? Is he? Oh? No? No? No, 1976 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,920 Speaker 1: But I mean I think there's maybe a world where 1977 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,200 Speaker 1: you're thinking about him covering Tyreek Hill or you know, 1978 01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:21,000 Speaker 1: try and wad. Yeah, you know, well that was somebody 1979 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,719 Speaker 1: brought up the point with what's going on, particularly in Miami. 1980 01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that that was their thing? Like, we 1981 01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,880 Speaker 1: just need guys. Step one is to keep up with them, 1982 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,560 Speaker 1: all right, Then the technique is the second part. But 1983 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, we have at least have to be in 1984 01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,639 Speaker 1: the vicinity of these technique. Won't matter if you're three 1985 01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,720 Speaker 1: or four yards behind him, right, And that's I mean, 1986 01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,000 Speaker 1: but I think the thing that stands out Marcus Jones, 1987 01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 1: not like quickness, really just fluidity and athleticism to match. 1988 01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:47,120 Speaker 1: You know that that's the thing, that that's you know, 1989 01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,320 Speaker 1: one particular play I watched with him where he just 1990 01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,599 Speaker 1: like flipped his hips and was right with a guy 1991 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,640 Speaker 1: who who you know, suddenly changed direction. Um, not so 1992 01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,679 Speaker 1: much with Jack Jones, but I think he's he's just feisty. 1993 01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,519 Speaker 1: You know, he's a feisty player who seems to make 1994 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,720 Speaker 1: plays on the ball. So I think there is some 1995 01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,560 Speaker 1: response there to what the Dolphins and other teams of 1996 01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,200 Speaker 1: time anything else. Long since you're a new caller and 1997 01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,080 Speaker 1: we had a new we had a call for new callers, 1998 01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:14,840 Speaker 1: and then I know it's too soon to tell, but 1999 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:20,679 Speaker 1: the undrafted free agent Devin Davin halford Um, I don't 2000 01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,200 Speaker 1: know if you guys seen any tape on him, but 2001 01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,080 Speaker 1: he seemed like a heavy hitter and like lots of 2002 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,519 Speaker 1: room leader. So I was just curious. Have you guys 2003 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:29,800 Speaker 1: got a chance to see any of his tape? Who 2004 01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:34,880 Speaker 1: is that Devin Halfer? Oh Halfer? Yeah, Yeah, I watched 2005 01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,080 Speaker 1: a little of him. I mean, he was a captain. 2006 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:38,800 Speaker 1: I think he was the player of the year in 2007 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,040 Speaker 1: his in his conference. He's I think he's been there 2008 01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,920 Speaker 1: a while. I think he's a little older. Um, not big. 2009 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean I was kind of curious if he might 2010 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:48,599 Speaker 1: have some outside it's corner potential, but he seemed okay, 2011 01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,000 Speaker 1: it's tough with the level of competition, But yeah, I 2012 01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,360 Speaker 1: dug a little bit on him. I think he's probably 2013 01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,599 Speaker 1: just you know, kind of camp depth. I don't really 2014 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:59,400 Speaker 1: have a lot of intrigue with him. But thanks one Jude. 2015 01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:01,439 Speaker 1: Can I ask you, I know that you wrote the 2016 01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,680 Speaker 1: story on the undrafted guys. Is there a guy with 2017 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:10,840 Speaker 1: the profile of maybe like was a potential second or 2018 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:14,000 Speaker 1: third round pick who did something in college and went 2019 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:18,479 Speaker 1: undrafted as a result, or you know, like a jac Jackson. No, no, no, 2020 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,840 Speaker 1: because those are the guys I look for, um, you know, 2021 01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,559 Speaker 1: for you want to be an impact, Like Malcolm Butler 2022 01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,200 Speaker 1: went to West Alabama, he had some trouble in college, 2023 01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, kind of you know, had some red flags again. 2024 01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:34,639 Speaker 1: J C. Jackson obviously had the thing at Florida, ended 2025 01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:38,320 Speaker 1: up at Maryland. These are guys, you know. Jackson in 2026 01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,680 Speaker 1: particular was a guy who was thought of as a 2027 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:44,600 Speaker 1: Day two pick and then he goes undrafted. Yeah. I 2028 01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,639 Speaker 1: think that for the most part, the undrafted free agents 2029 01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:52,360 Speaker 1: aren't really like I know that this like this long streak, 2030 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 1: most of them really aren't these great I mean, you 2031 01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,759 Speaker 1: get offensive and defensive lineman once on David Andrews, terrific, 2032 01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:04,000 Speaker 1: undrafted or you know, free agent, Um, that's that's what 2033 01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:08,000 Speaker 1: you're looking for. But in terms of like impact skill guys, 2034 01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:12,000 Speaker 1: and if there's not a situation like that, I'd be no. No. 2035 01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,560 Speaker 1: I think the only guy that maybe then intrigued me 2036 01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:18,400 Speaker 1: a tiny bit was was DeMarcus Mitchell from Purdue, who 2037 01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:23,360 Speaker 1: played across from karloftis so um, you know, and we said, like, man, 2038 01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:25,599 Speaker 1: why didn't they add an edge? And so finally getting 2039 01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:27,680 Speaker 1: a chance, he worked out for the Patriots. They came 2040 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:30,040 Speaker 1: to his pro day. Um. You know, he was literally 2041 01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:31,920 Speaker 1: quoted as saying, you know, Patriots told me I'm an 2042 01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,560 Speaker 1: outside linebacker in their system. Um. But you know, I 2043 01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:37,519 Speaker 1: like the idea of him. Once I started watching him, 2044 01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,439 Speaker 1: he didn't really seem like a dynamic, powerful type athlete. 2045 01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,360 Speaker 1: He seemed like a fine college player. Um. You know, 2046 01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,160 Speaker 1: I know some of the other guys had injury issues, 2047 01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,320 Speaker 1: like the Lebryan Ray from Alabama. You know, Alabama a 2048 01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,559 Speaker 1: great pedigree, But um, just couldn't couldn't stay on the field, 2049 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,760 Speaker 1: couldn't start stringing it together. So uh and Russy at 2050 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,479 Speaker 1: the center, he's interesting. He's just small, he's like six 2051 01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,400 Speaker 1: feet tall, but he had like thirty eight reps or 2052 01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:04,120 Speaker 1: something crazy on the bench. So yeah, exactly, exactly right, 2053 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,760 Speaker 1: exactly so uh not not a ton of intrigue. I 2054 01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:09,560 Speaker 1: did bring up Brendon school or just as like a 2055 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,280 Speaker 1: special teams type guy who played offense and defense and 2056 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,479 Speaker 1: has some good size and has some good athleticism. But 2057 01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:17,759 Speaker 1: all the guys Paul going through them, they're all listed 2058 01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,120 Speaker 1: in like either one of the last couple profiles or 2059 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:25,200 Speaker 1: best of the rest undrafted groups. Right, Okay, let's go 2060 01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:30,599 Speaker 1: to Adam and Idaho. What's up Adam, It says Aaron, Hey, 2061 01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,120 Speaker 1: that's my fault that this time it was my fault. 2062 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm just a walk with my daughter and beautiful Idaho yesterday, 2063 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:44,799 Speaker 1: North or South Idaho, because I'm familiar with both Eastern 2064 01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:51,240 Speaker 1: Eastern Okay, so by the Washington Hole Okay, yeah, very nice, 2065 01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah towards that way. Um, I just had two questions. 2066 01:46:54,479 --> 01:47:02,960 Speaker 1: I was gonna sat, look, yeah, what do you guys think, Um, 2067 01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,960 Speaker 1: they'll think maybe a little gunshot from taking the sexually 2068 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:10,000 Speaker 1: and obvious big name pick. And that's why maybe he 2069 01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:11,960 Speaker 1: has his own draft board. He doesn't even look at 2070 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,840 Speaker 1: anything else or what do you think is going on there? 2071 01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean last year has seemed pretty 2072 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,160 Speaker 1: on point for where I mean Mac at fifteen, Barmore 2073 01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of fell a little bit. They went up, I 2074 01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:27,040 Speaker 1: mean the top fifteen, you know, so you know, you 2075 01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:30,599 Speaker 1: don't really get a chance at those. Yeah, yeah, I mean, 2076 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:35,200 Speaker 1: who knows what really goes through Bill's mind when you 2077 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:39,120 Speaker 1: know he's saying this is the guy. It's I'd love 2078 01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,720 Speaker 1: to know, you know, what really gets them going, you know. 2079 01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean I think Paul's point earlier about just the character, 2080 01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:49,640 Speaker 1: the personality, the durability, you know, those and again to 2081 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:51,439 Speaker 1: bring it back to that like growing up at Navy 2082 01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:53,240 Speaker 1: and one of these Navy guys who will run into 2083 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,439 Speaker 1: a wall for you in or you know, just really 2084 01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,439 Speaker 1: really good people and those are always the ones that 2085 01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,720 Speaker 1: that stand out. But I think this year there was 2086 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,160 Speaker 1: more on the more on the measurable end of the things, 2087 01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,680 Speaker 1: more on the speed numbers in the you know, it's 2088 01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:09,719 Speaker 1: almost like if I have two comparable guys at comparable talent. 2089 01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 1: One guys at a small school, one guy's at Ohio State. 2090 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,559 Speaker 1: If I draft a guy at a small school, he'll 2091 01:48:16,560 --> 01:48:19,920 Speaker 1: be more beholden to me and come in with more 2092 01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,320 Speaker 1: of a chip on his shoulder and you know, prove 2093 01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,760 Speaker 1: it type of guy. Then, you know, I don't know. 2094 01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've heard of that a lot, do you. 2095 01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:29,840 Speaker 1: You don't really believe that. I have no idea. I 2096 01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:31,880 Speaker 1: don't believe it. I mean, I've heard that. I've heard that. 2097 01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:33,920 Speaker 1: I've heard him. People say that a lot, that they 2098 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 1: want guys that they think it'll be easier to sign 2099 01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,559 Speaker 1: them on their second contract. Oh well, you know, they'll 2100 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,120 Speaker 1: they'll be beholden to them, they'll be more loyal, Like 2101 01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:45,240 Speaker 1: I really like, don't think this even less than one 2102 01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,560 Speaker 1: percent chance. I would hope that they're not looking that 2103 01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,559 Speaker 1: far ahead to the second contract and I'm worried about 2104 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:52,360 Speaker 1: what he does. They're not looking at anything other than 2105 01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:56,240 Speaker 1: finding good players that can help your team. Yeah, thanks, Aaron. Uh, 2106 01:48:56,520 --> 01:49:01,759 Speaker 1: let's go to Henry and Leeds. What's up? Henry? Who leads? Hi? Guys? 2107 01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:09,720 Speaker 1: Just just quick Eric? Yeah, getting a punking? You get wait? 2108 01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,880 Speaker 1: Hold on now? Yeah, leads leads better stay in the 2109 01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:15,600 Speaker 1: Premier League. I don't know, manp Socer. I thought it 2110 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,280 Speaker 1: was literally like, oh, he's gonna go into Eric right now. 2111 01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:22,840 Speaker 1: This is gonna guys are on the brink. Fine, um, 2112 01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:26,080 Speaker 1: quick question, I'll take off line. Um. Still the same 2113 01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:29,200 Speaker 1: is pretty much everyone else the dropped the thing very defloyed. 2114 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,439 Speaker 1: Don't mind some of the players, don't any of the pick. 2115 01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 1: My question is, how do we think Mac feels about 2116 01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,000 Speaker 1: all this when he was watching it Thursday night and 2117 01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,479 Speaker 1: we're you know, some good players lost on the board. 2118 01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,600 Speaker 1: Was he excited when they took a guard? Same with 2119 01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,960 Speaker 1: a receiver? Thought, and yeah, he was excited about him. 2120 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,080 Speaker 1: I'll find you guys, all right, thanks Henry. I found Mac. 2121 01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:53,200 Speaker 1: I got a guard, and I got a speedy receiver. 2122 01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:55,680 Speaker 1: Let's go, and you got let's go. And I got 2123 01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,080 Speaker 1: all those guys from last and throw Parker run in 2124 01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,479 Speaker 1: the mix too. And you know if I backs and 2125 01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:03,519 Speaker 1: let's go, I got a much easier time looking at 2126 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,920 Speaker 1: the offense and saying, you know, maybe they can they 2127 01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:07,680 Speaker 1: can pull something out out of this. Now, it's not 2128 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,920 Speaker 1: like a guarantee. There's isn't you know, a proven one 2129 01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,880 Speaker 1: A receiver or running back on the team. But I 2130 01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:15,840 Speaker 1: think they got a lot of really good guys, and 2131 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,080 Speaker 1: I think based on how the competition goes this summer 2132 01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:19,920 Speaker 1: that you know, there really could be something there. You 2133 01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:21,519 Speaker 1: want to talk about the defensive side of the ball, 2134 01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,280 Speaker 1: that's a little bit more of a you know, of 2135 01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,120 Speaker 1: a stretch, trying to see how that that's going to 2136 01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,479 Speaker 1: come together. But I think Mac has to be happy 2137 01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:31,000 Speaker 1: they've given them coming off last season. Two things. On 2138 01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:34,479 Speaker 1: the offense, are they gonna be harder to defend? Because 2139 01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,639 Speaker 1: I've heard that I heard that too much. They're easy 2140 01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:39,200 Speaker 1: to defend. I've never heard that before of a Patriots offense. 2141 01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,519 Speaker 1: That that startled me. So are they gonna be a 2142 01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,519 Speaker 1: little bit more difficult to defend? And on defense? Can 2143 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:50,920 Speaker 1: they force a punt? That's if here's that line, But 2144 01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:55,559 Speaker 1: that's just a little bit disrespect. That's how the season ended. 2145 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 1: So we gotta we gotta move on from there. But 2146 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,920 Speaker 1: I'll be encouraged to see everybody out there in a 2147 01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,160 Speaker 1: few weeks. If he's got all, if he's got born 2148 01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:07,000 Speaker 1: in Agalore and Henry and Smith and the new guys 2149 01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:09,680 Speaker 1: and everybody is here and they're all working together. Then 2150 01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's a new kind of dynamic. 2151 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:14,920 Speaker 1: You're here. Everybody's killing the Patriots they had the worst draft. 2152 01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:17,800 Speaker 1: The Jets surpassed them. They didn't force a punt. I mean, 2153 01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,479 Speaker 1: it's it's them against the world this season, you know. 2154 01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,599 Speaker 1: And on offense, if you look at it, they've got 2155 01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,080 Speaker 1: pieces they do. They've got they got to play, they 2156 01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,120 Speaker 1: got to execute, and Mac needs to take a step 2157 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,360 Speaker 1: and be able to deal with the ups and the 2158 01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,680 Speaker 1: downs and really take control of the offense and you know, 2159 01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,600 Speaker 1: spread it around. But I think they've they've got the 2160 01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,360 Speaker 1: elements to be a good offense that can move the ball. 2161 01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,439 Speaker 1: I don't know how good they mean, even offensive line. 2162 01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:42,679 Speaker 1: If Trent Brown is healthy, you've got your right tackle. 2163 01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:45,080 Speaker 1: If when is healthy, you got a left tackle. You've 2164 01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,160 Speaker 1: got good out of there. Yeah, I think they're good. 2165 01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,000 Speaker 1: I think they're good. You've got David Andrews, who's solid 2166 01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:51,960 Speaker 1: in the middle. You've got this your first round pick, 2167 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,160 Speaker 1: a guard you know, maybe, I don't know, and when 2168 01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:59,439 Speaker 1: you maybe yeah, yeah, And so on offense, you've got 2169 01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,920 Speaker 1: the elements to have a good offense. I'm less worried 2170 01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,280 Speaker 1: about the like in last years you know, Paul, last 2171 01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:07,479 Speaker 1: year's like when everyone was saying defense, I would say, no, 2172 01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm worried about the offense. I'm now I'm switching. Yeah, 2173 01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm back to now worrying about the defense. I'm still 2174 01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:15,599 Speaker 1: worried equally about both. I agree with everything you're saying 2175 01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,360 Speaker 1: about the defense, but I just think I have my concern. 2176 01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,280 Speaker 1: I think the difference, too, though, is that we're used 2177 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:22,559 Speaker 1: to seeing is this going to be a great offense? 2178 01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:24,200 Speaker 1: That was the bar. Well, we want to get back. 2179 01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:26,800 Speaker 1: You certainly want to get back to that. But I 2180 01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:29,000 Speaker 1: think you know, when you say good, it has to 2181 01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:31,639 Speaker 1: be good. It's good. You know, it's not like, Wow, 2182 01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:33,519 Speaker 1: this is going to be an all time offense. Like 2183 01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you that. But I think 2184 01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:36,599 Speaker 1: that they can be better than they were last year. 2185 01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:37,960 Speaker 1: I think they had the pieces to be better than 2186 01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:40,639 Speaker 1: last year. They've you know, brought in Parkers, a legitimate 2187 01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,479 Speaker 1: NFL receiver. Thornton's got some speed, You've got a couple 2188 01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:45,200 Speaker 1: of running backs to pad the depth when you got 2189 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, I mean during that like losing streak, you're 2190 01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,360 Speaker 1: missing a couple of the running backs. You know, you 2191 01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:51,840 Speaker 1: had Stevenson in you had Harrison. You kind of were 2192 01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:54,240 Speaker 1: rotating those guys, so you got some more depth there. 2193 01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,320 Speaker 1: You have Brandon Bolden, who God bless him, did a 2194 01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:57,880 Speaker 1: great job. But now I know we're not going to 2195 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,200 Speaker 1: have a fullback, you know, but I mean I'd be 2196 01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,080 Speaker 1: able to get over that. The biggest thing to me 2197 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:06,080 Speaker 1: for improvement is that you have to hope the guys 2198 01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:08,040 Speaker 1: that came in last year are better this year. Yes, 2199 01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:11,719 Speaker 1: because I think there's more than likely that Cole strangers 2200 01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:13,759 Speaker 1: You're the only guy that's going to play on offense 2201 01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,600 Speaker 1: that you didn't have last year. I don't think the 2202 01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,920 Speaker 1: running backs will play much. I don't think Thornton will 2203 01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:20,760 Speaker 1: play much as rookies. So you have to hope that 2204 01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,439 Speaker 1: Henry and Smith are better. You have to hope that 2205 01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,320 Speaker 1: born in Agalo are better, and you have to hope 2206 01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:31,240 Speaker 1: that Mac is better. Yea. And Parker gives you something 2207 01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:34,719 Speaker 1: a Parker and strange. Yes, Parker. I forgot about Parker. 2208 01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:37,680 Speaker 1: Ye I'm not as hiring him as others, but he 2209 01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:40,599 Speaker 1: will play ye unless something you know, because listen, I'm 2210 01:53:40,600 --> 01:53:42,680 Speaker 1: not healthy. Yeah, but I think the depths a part 2211 01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:44,320 Speaker 1: of it too. And last year I think that you know, 2212 01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:46,760 Speaker 1: the guys you named off that they had when they 2213 01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:49,360 Speaker 1: didn't have one of them or you know, it's a 2214 01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,120 Speaker 1: big drop off. I think they've got some depth, some 2215 01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:52,960 Speaker 1: pieces to work with that, you know, maybe give you 2216 01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,040 Speaker 1: something new, they get a chance. They less depth on 2217 01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:59,559 Speaker 1: the offensive line, proven yeah, I mean they lost two 2218 01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:01,639 Speaker 1: starters in the offensive line, so you have less depth 2219 01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 1: than you had last year. Yaha, yep. Yeah, I mean 2220 01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,439 Speaker 1: if Trent Brown goes down, you're in trouble just like 2221 01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:10,000 Speaker 1: you were last year. You know. Yeah, I mean, I 2222 01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,599 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about the guys that they have. I'm 2223 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,720 Speaker 1: not assuming that guys are going to get hurt. Yeah, 2224 01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,760 Speaker 1: I think that your your offensive line isn't as good 2225 01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,479 Speaker 1: as it was last year, even if no one gets hurt, 2226 01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:27,320 Speaker 1: like you're you're replacing two starters with one guy in 2227 01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,240 Speaker 1: the draft. No, I know, but I think Cole Strange 2228 01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:31,800 Speaker 1: is going to be better than Ted Carris. Okay, even 2229 01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:33,440 Speaker 1: if he is a when you wasn't better than Ted 2230 01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,640 Speaker 1: Carres and now he's got to start, Yeah, and cars 2231 01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,720 Speaker 1: when you wasn't better than Shaq Mason is what you 2232 01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:41,600 Speaker 1: want to say. He wasn't better than Carris either, or 2233 01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:44,400 Speaker 1: he would have played over him. Yeah, Carris played pretty 2234 01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,480 Speaker 1: well when he came into No Listen, I love me 2235 01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:50,880 Speaker 1: Ted Carris, but cole Strange better be better better. I'm 2236 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,600 Speaker 1: willing to give you that. Yeah. I don't know that 2237 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:54,040 Speaker 1: that will be the case. I don't know that I'm 2238 01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,200 Speaker 1: but I'm willing to give you that. Yeah, but they're 2239 01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:58,920 Speaker 1: not as good as they were. They lost two guys 2240 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,560 Speaker 1: that played over A when you Ye, so I can't 2241 01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:03,760 Speaker 1: just pencil lawhen you when it's being better than that. Well, 2242 01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,920 Speaker 1: he got a chance to play and lost the job. Yeah, 2243 01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:10,360 Speaker 1: but sometimes they like Eric, We've talked about it before. 2244 01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:14,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes they like to keep things as consistent as possible 2245 01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:17,600 Speaker 1: rather than move guys around. Right, make a few changes, yeah, 2246 01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:19,840 Speaker 1: I think, which to me is more glaring that they 2247 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,640 Speaker 1: took a when You out because they do like that. 2248 01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:24,440 Speaker 1: They liked the cohesion, but they didn't like the way 2249 01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,160 Speaker 1: he was playing, so they made a change. Yeah. I 2250 01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:28,800 Speaker 1: want to see him when you a right guard too, 2251 01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,560 Speaker 1: that's his natural position, that's where he played in college. Yeah, 2252 01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:33,720 Speaker 1: that's part of the equation too, of right, you know, 2253 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,560 Speaker 1: is he a better could be a position? I will 2254 01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,600 Speaker 1: just tell I'm gonna make this prediction, right, now the 2255 01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:43,680 Speaker 1: answer to that will be yes, he will be better 2256 01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:47,840 Speaker 1: than Shack. Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what 2257 01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:53,040 Speaker 1: you get. Jeff's in Texas. What's up, Jeff? Yeah, Hi guys, 2258 01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:56,520 Speaker 1: Uh hey, I want to talk about the Uh well, 2259 01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:58,480 Speaker 1: first of all, I'd like to show it today. It's 2260 01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:02,520 Speaker 1: it's definitely more positive. Kind of felt like Tuesday was 2261 01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:06,680 Speaker 1: was kind of a bummer, I mean, less positive, like 2262 01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,840 Speaker 1: after the weekend, you know, we're kind of thinking over 2263 01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:11,200 Speaker 1: the picks and then you know, listening and end just 2264 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:15,040 Speaker 1: be hearing, you know, not expecting guys to sugarcoat anything, 2265 01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,440 Speaker 1: and they think it's just kind of maybe it was 2266 01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:19,960 Speaker 1: more of a reality check, you know, just a lot 2267 01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,800 Speaker 1: of question marks. Right well, listen, I, like I said, 2268 01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,160 Speaker 1: I they didn't do what I wanted him to do. 2269 01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, you know, say, now, oh that's great, 2270 01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,800 Speaker 1: but I don't I'm not saying it was a subpart 2271 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:33,840 Speaker 1: of draft either, because I don't know, but they I 2272 01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,560 Speaker 1: know they didn't do what I wanted. Yeah, And I mean, Jeff, 2273 01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,280 Speaker 1: I hope you think I hope you want us to 2274 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:40,000 Speaker 1: be honest. I hope you don't want us to just 2275 01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:42,960 Speaker 1: be you know, Pollyanna all the time like everything's great, 2276 01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,520 Speaker 1: every nothing to see here. You know, if there are 2277 01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,280 Speaker 1: days when we have to be a little pessimistic, then 2278 01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:51,280 Speaker 1: so be it. You know, I hope that's how you feel. Yeah, 2279 01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:54,520 Speaker 1: And I mean, and before I get to my point, 2280 01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,440 Speaker 1: and then like when when I heard Paul say he 2281 01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:00,360 Speaker 1: despied the draft, I was like, oh my god, that's 2282 01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:04,960 Speaker 1: a good line. Anyway, Um, the point I want to 2283 01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:06,920 Speaker 1: get to and you guys already talked about this a 2284 01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,720 Speaker 1: little bit during the show today that you didn't really 2285 01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:13,320 Speaker 1: talk about on Tuesday, But I want to talk about Craft. Um. 2286 01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,880 Speaker 1: So when Craft came out at the owners meeting and said, 2287 01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, um that you know, we're not happy. We 2288 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,960 Speaker 1: haven't won a playoff game in three years. You know, 2289 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,320 Speaker 1: we're not happy, and we have to do better in 2290 01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:27,160 Speaker 1: the draft. We have to build through the draft. So 2291 01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:30,160 Speaker 1: that was like exclamation point that you know, we have 2292 01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,120 Speaker 1: to have a great draft. And then you know, so 2293 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,560 Speaker 1: my question is like, you know, what, what do you 2294 01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:39,320 Speaker 1: think Craft thinks? I mean? And do you think he 2295 01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:41,680 Speaker 1: looks around to see what some of the analysts are 2296 01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:44,680 Speaker 1: saying I mean, or did he just go by you 2297 01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:48,560 Speaker 1: know what Craft and everybody what Belichick and and grow 2298 01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:50,880 Speaker 1: tell them. I mean I think, yeah, I think you 2299 01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,560 Speaker 1: listen to all of it. I think he hears everything. 2300 01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:54,800 Speaker 1: How can you not if you want, I mean just 2301 01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:59,280 Speaker 1: on L Network or ESPN any day. I mean, don't 2302 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,560 Speaker 1: you think he's disappointed or a little upset maybe with 2303 01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:06,080 Speaker 1: I think he has a lot of faith in Belichick 2304 01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:08,800 Speaker 1: and he leaves the football to Belichick. But yes, I 2305 01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:11,920 Speaker 1: think he's He's watching. We're all frustrated. He's watching. It's 2306 01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,200 Speaker 1: keeping he's keeping track. He's a fan and a businessman, correct, 2307 01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:17,240 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't know how any Patriot 2308 01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,760 Speaker 1: fan can't at least be a little bit frustrated. How 2309 01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,160 Speaker 1: the last you know, few years have gone, and I 2310 01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,840 Speaker 1: think there's an element of understanding that Brady left and 2311 01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:29,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to immediately be perfect, But expectations are high. 2312 01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:31,800 Speaker 1: People love sports here. They want to win. They're they're 2313 01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:33,520 Speaker 1: fired up. They don't want this to just all of 2314 01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,560 Speaker 1: a sudden fall in this. I think I'm more I 2315 01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,200 Speaker 1: seem to be more patient than most of the fans 2316 01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,120 Speaker 1: on this show. You know, like I me too, because 2317 01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:42,920 Speaker 1: I have fun with the process a team, right, you 2318 01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:46,520 Speaker 1: you're having fun? Yeah? This is fun for dues. All right, thanks, 2319 01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,040 Speaker 1: but everything is fun for Duce. Yeah. I just want 2320 01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:50,640 Speaker 1: to be as happy as he was in life, not 2321 01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:56,920 Speaker 1: for one day, not filling up one of those all right, 2322 01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 1: Well you're only coming from Sharon. I know nothing. You 2323 01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,720 Speaker 1: could walk here, Yeah, you can ride your bike. I 2324 01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:04,200 Speaker 1: was starting to walk down the road and making a 2325 01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,160 Speaker 1: joke about going in to fill up, you know, to 2326 01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:09,440 Speaker 1: pay inside, you know. But yeah, right, I took the offer. 2327 01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:13,920 Speaker 1: Rampai that Yeah, using a lot of highway metaphors there, 2328 01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm just driving. All right. That's gonna be it for 2329 01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:21,720 Speaker 1: this edition of Patriots. I'm sheltered. Um. I hope everyone 2330 01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:26,840 Speaker 1: has a good weekend. We'll see you next Tuesday. Thank 2331 01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:30,440 Speaker 1: you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 2332 01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:33,520 Speaker 1: and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, Please rate 2333 01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:36,720 Speaker 1: and review us. 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