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Here's Chris Mannix. 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the inaugural episode of Boxing with 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Chris Mannox. You have heard this podcast, of course for 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: many years. This is the first episode that I am 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: doing with the Volume podcast network. We get a lot 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: of the same stuff with this podcast. We're gonna try 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: to bring you the very best guests every single week 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: in the boxing world. We're gonna break down every single 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: story in the boxing world. They're gonna have a little 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: bit of fun while we're doing it. So I'm excited 38 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: about this. I'm excited about this being the very first episode, 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: and we have a great episode for you. Al Bernstein, 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: showtime boxing analyst, legendary figure in boxing. I talked to 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Al about some of the fights we saw this past 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: weekend Nondo Donair a world champion once again, thirty eight 43 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: years old. He wins a bantam weight title. What I'll 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: think of that fight and what might be next for Donair? 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Devin Haney lightweight champion, he gets the biggest win of 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: his career against Tory Lanaris and are we finally going 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: to get Devin Haney against Teyefimo Lopez? And talked to 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Al about that and big fight this weekend. Exhibition match 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: this weekend Floyd Mayweather against Logan Paul whatever weight it's 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: gonna be at, two guys in the ring down in Miami. 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: Mayweather making his return to the boxing arena, so to speak, 52 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: to face off against YouTube star Logan Paul. Al will 53 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: be on the call for that fight. I get into 54 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: that with him on this pot as well a little 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: bit later on Floyd Mayweather himself the future Hall of 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: Famer pound for pound king. I get into with Floyd 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: about kind of why he's doing this, what he hopes 58 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: to gain from it, and I mean, is it possible 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: that Floyd could return in a real fight against say 60 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: Nanny Pakiao. Stick around for that great conversation with Floyd Mayweather. 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: All Right, let's pick it up from there. Let me 62 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: bring on Al Bernstein. All right. Al Bernstein is here 63 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: analyst Showtime Boxing, one of the very best in the business. 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: Also the host of Al Bernstein Unplugged podcast you can 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: listen to watch on YouTube every single week. Al. I 66 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: think this is your first appearance on the Show Man. 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining Man. No, it's good to be with you. 68 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad that I got a chance to visit with 69 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: you and chat a little boxing. I usually occasionally gotten 70 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: Steve Farhood, who does these interviews like from his kitchen, 71 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: which kind of looks like he's bunker somewhere. It's interesting. 72 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: It's an interesting visual with Farhood there. But glad to 73 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: something about all these the new world and the zoom 74 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: phenomena for all of us that are doing things you 75 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: never know where you're gonna find people do. Yeah, No, No, 76 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. It's created a new dynamic, that's for 77 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: sure in broadcasting. I want to talk about a couple 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: of things that happened last weekend before we get to 79 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 1: the big show this weekend involving Floyd Mayweather. We'll start 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: with the fight I was involved with over the weekend 81 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, Devin Haney defending his version of one 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five pound title. Watching from ringside al, 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: I thought that was Devin Haney's best performance. I think 84 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: he has been dominant in the past, winning lop side 85 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: of decisions against good competition, but in this fight, he 86 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: stood in the pocket, He traded more than he ever 87 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: has before, he was entertaining, more entertaining than I've seen 88 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: him before, and he survived adversity for the first time 89 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: in his career, taking that big right hand at the 90 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: end of the tenth round, recovering and doing enough to 91 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: win a decision. So I was very impressed with Devin Haney. 92 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: What were your impressions of that fight? Yeah, I agree. 93 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: You know, of course, we live in an age where 94 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, people need to pick everything to death and 95 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: and inevitably somebody's going to be critical of things. But yeah, 96 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: I thought he performed well. You know Harry Lenar, and 97 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: the key to that is that Harhy Lenaris did not 98 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: fight badly. It's just that Haney was better on that night. 99 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: And of course Lanars was able to get in some 100 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: trouble in the last couple of rounds, which gave us 101 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: a new dimension to Haney because he got through that 102 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: and survived it. Yeah, I agree. I think there was 103 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: more offense from him. It was more entertaining and and 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: he demonstrated clearly he's on the upper is in the 105 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: upper echelon of the lightweight division, and that you know, 106 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: we would want to see him in against any lightweight 107 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: and would give him an opportunity against any lightweight to win. 108 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we know he has a great 109 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: physical skills, quickness, and we saw him get through adversity 110 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: in this fight as well, which is important. Yeah, are 111 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: you of the opinion that how you win matters? You know? 112 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: During our fighter meetings that week, like, I had a 113 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: very interesting and long exchange with Bill Haney, the father 114 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: of Devon and U, and with Devin himself. Kind of 115 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: because I've been somewhat critical of Devon's fighting style. I 116 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: thought he kind of stunk out the joint in a 117 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: way against Yorkas Gamboa, didn't go out of his way 118 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: to try to take gambo out. I think even the 119 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: previous fight against Alfredo Santiago, I thought there were opportunities 120 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: for him to take Santiago out. He didn't take them. 121 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: But you know, look in this fight and heard all 122 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: those questions. So I don't know. I mean, I think, 123 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: and I go through this with Demetrius Andrea, there is 124 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: no bigger Demetrius Andreid fan than me. Like I have 125 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: to be noticed. I've noticed that you seem to like him. 126 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: I like him a lot, and it drives me crazy 127 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: that he can't get a big fight. But I think 128 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: part of that is because he doesn't fight an entertaining way. 129 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't go for knockouts. I think, Devin, as much 130 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: as you gain by beating Hory Lenaris, you gain even 131 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: more by beating Hory lean Ars that way because now 132 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: you have Look, you got Ryan Garcia on social media 133 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: tweeting I would have slept you, Devin, like I would, 134 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: I would have put you down. You've got Tafie Melopez 135 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: tweeting about the fight. So I feel like Devin increased 136 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: his chances of facing one of those top lightweights by 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: beating Lenars in that way. Yeah. There the two elements 138 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: that you referred to, One that he was more engaged, 139 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: more offensively. Number two, that he had a moment of 140 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: vulnerability in getting you know, getting stunned by a punch 141 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: and you know it's always in true me that some 142 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: fighters it doesn't matter how they win. I mean, perfect 143 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: example is Foy Mayweather. Let's be honest. He you know, 144 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: he's had a career in which, you know, ninety percent 145 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: of his fights have not been similated, and yet winning 146 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: is enough for him because he has this brand that 147 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: allows him to to win and if he keeps winning, 148 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: he's good. And other fighters we've seen that as well, 149 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: and then some other fighters are criticized for not being exciting. 150 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: So I think it's almost on a case by case basis, 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: But there is no question that the way this fight 152 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: ended up, the fact that he did engage more in 153 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: the fact that he was vulnerable, did make this fight 154 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: one that was talked about more. And you will probably 155 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: have a better clue to this than I do. But 156 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm hoping that Tifi Malopez, who talks in a 157 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: way now of course he has to get asked his 158 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: fight on June nineteenth, He's talking in a way that 159 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: makes you feel like he truly does want to fight 160 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: Devin Haney that before he lose the lightweight divis New Monster, 161 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: which just fight that I think everybody would love to see. 162 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that that's more than just PR. I hope 163 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: so too, and I think from Tafemo's perspective, it is 164 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: more than just PR. I do think it. I do 165 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: think there's gonna need it needs some help to get 166 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: over the finish line. I think ta Femo during the 167 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: week when he was doing his media stuff for the 168 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: Cambosis fight, sort of laid out the blueprint. And that's 169 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: involving the WBC. Now, nobody hates the WBC at all 170 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: sanctioning bodies more than me. I find them all to 171 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: be a pox upon boxing. But the WBC can can 172 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: bank some credit, at least in my account, if they 173 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: go out and mandate and mandate they Taya Femo versus 174 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Haney matchup. They have to. They can say that. You know, look, 175 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: we never WBC never intended for Taffimo Lopez to be 176 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: the franchise champion. They named Muchenko the franchise champion and 177 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: buy their own rules al the franchise championship should not transfer, 178 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: So what are we doing here? It will not. So 179 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: let's find a way to put this title back in 180 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: the cracker jack box that it came out of, and 181 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: let's make a mandatory fight between Haney and Lopez. Nobody 182 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: loves a good purse bid like Tafimo Lopez, and I 183 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: don't think Eddie Hearn would have any problem if the 184 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: Haney fight went to a purse biit. Top Right might 185 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: have a problem because they don't have as deep a 186 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: pocket as Eddie does, and whoever might get involved, Hell 187 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Trller might get back involved and win that purse bid. 188 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: But this seems easy to me, Like there's no real 189 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: fight at one thirty five for Tiafima. Ryan Garcia is 190 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: going through his stuff. He's not going to come right 191 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: back into the mix into one of those top fights 192 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: right away. You've been more involved with Javante Davis than 193 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: I have. I don't get any sense that he's all 194 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: that interested in facing any one of those guys at 195 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: the present time that signed their radar screen. No, not 196 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: at the moment, So there's nothing else. Taffima does not 197 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: want to move up to one forty yet, but Josh 198 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: Taylor fight's not their for him yet anyway, So why 199 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: not make the one of the biggest fights you can 200 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: make at lightweight for the true undisputed championship. I mean, like, 201 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: please join me out and begging the WBC to do 202 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: the right thing here and order a purse bid for 203 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: Haney versus Lopez. Yeah, I think that would be interesting. 204 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: And you know, you don't always get it where it's 205 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: from the you know, that side of the pecking order 206 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: to try and demand to fight. Usually it's the other 207 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: way around, somebody that's hunting a champion. But but yeah, 208 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: I think that it makes a lot of sense, and 209 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a fight that, you know, the year of 210 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one is a really good year for boxing 211 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: so far, and there have been some really really good 212 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: matches made. Their unification fights that have been made are 213 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: being made on both the women and men's side, and 214 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: this fight would be the poster child for two twenty 215 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: one because it would be a fight that makes sense, 216 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: as you point out, gives Lopez a perfect um, you know, 217 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: platform to then launch himself from two one hundred and 218 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: forty or give Steven Haney should he win the fight, 219 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: a you know, a clear path to call himself the 220 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: best lightweight perhaps, And so it's you know, it's it's 221 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: a fight that would kind of symbolize twenty twenty one 222 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: for boxing, how it seems like the direction it's going in. Yeah, 223 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: I hope it happens. Um, Like you said, Taffima's got 224 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: to get by Cambosis first. Cambosis is undefeated and deserves 225 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: the respect of at least being appreciated for. I think 226 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna give Timo a fun fight. Yeah yeah, but 227 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: I think if Tfimo is on his game, he's better, faster, stronger, 228 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: like all all boxes check into Fimo. If he gets 229 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: through that fight, I hope he stands in the ring 230 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: and whoever interviews him, he just says, you know, give 231 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: me Devin Hany next, Give me Devin Hay next. Give 232 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: we get some momentum for that fight you called the 233 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: great one this past weekend. No neither. Donaire just turning 234 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: back the clock once again, thirty eight years old, becoming 235 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: the oldest bantam weight champion with a fourth round knockout 236 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:10,359 Speaker 1: win over Dordito Bali. Um. I mean, were you surprised 237 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: by that outcome? I mean, Donna at one eighteen is great, 238 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: like he just he continued, that's like his weight where 239 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: he's at his best. Yes, he lost to in a way, 240 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: but ever losed in a way, and most people losed 241 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: in a way much worse than Donaire did. So like 242 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: I was. You know, I don't think I was shocked 243 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: because I know how big and strong Donnaire is when 244 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: he makes that weight in a healthy way, he's tough. 245 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: But to go out and just dismantle Ubali in that 246 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: type of manner, I was impressed. Yeah. You know, there 247 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: are a couple of mysteries in life that I have 248 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: that remained unsolved for me, and one of them is 249 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: why no Nito go ever went up and wait the 250 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: way he did, because here we see him now. Fighters 251 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: never go back down and wait when they're in their 252 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: late thirties. That just doesn't happen. Right Yet he was 253 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: able to do it. So if you're able to do it, now, 254 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: why did you go up several white classes when you 255 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: were younger? He could have been the champion one hundred 256 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: and eighteen forever right just about. I mean, because he 257 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: has that height and reach and power advantage over other 258 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen pounders. Here's what fans need to 259 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: know about that fight. Nordino Bali is a really good fighter. 260 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: He's not some guy that won a championship and was 261 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: lucky to do so. And you know, he had great 262 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: amateur credentials turn pro late because of that was in 263 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: two Olympics. Has been excellent as a pro and had 264 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: his moments in the fight with Donaia where he landed 265 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: some pretty good shots, but said before the fight, I 266 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: know how to counter him because of the way he 267 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: enters offensively. I have to say I kind of thought 268 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: o'bally would be a little more tricky for for No 269 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Nito to figure out how to counter him. It didn't 270 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: take him long at all. He figured it out. And 271 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: the only caveat to the win is that probably one 272 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: of the knockdowns came I'm gonna say five seconds after 273 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: the bell rang, and I don't think it was intentional 274 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: in any way, but it is interesting. Yet I do wonder. 275 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: I still think No Nito won to fight. He probably 276 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: would have knocked him out, but u Bali had just 277 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: come back in that round and landed several good punches, 278 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: and I wonder how it would have gone had that 279 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: not happened. But nonetheless in it I went in no 280 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: way want to diminish what No Nito don did. It 281 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: was remarkable and at one eighteen, with the power he has, 282 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: there may be only one person, mister anyway, who can 283 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: beat No Nito gon Air. Now if he you know, 284 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: he says he wants to fight anyway next whether it's feasible, 285 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. The fight that is feasible for him 286 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: currently is the winner of Johan Reel Casamero and Giermo Rigindo. Uh, 287 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: because they're going to be fighting in a couple of months. 288 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: That would be fascinating and uh. And so it was 289 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: an amazing performance by Donnair. It was And you mentioned 290 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: potential opponents Forde Donair, and I think in a way 291 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: could wind up being doable if these days at one 292 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: eighteen is not a lot there for him, and a 293 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: rematch with Donaire, yeah, it would be big. With the 294 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: caveat that politics often get in the way and stuff 295 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: like this, that would still be the biggest fight you 296 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: could probably make for him at this point. What intrigues 297 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: me almost as much is what happens with the winner 298 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: of one Francisco Astrata Chocolate Tito at one fifteen. I mean, 299 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: especially if it's Astrata, I could see him moving up 300 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: and fighting Donaire at one eighteen Chocolate Tito. That might 301 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: be finishing. I hadn't thought about that. That's that's a 302 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: very intriguing idea. I mean, Chocolateito, it might be a 303 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: bridge too far, might be too small for I think so, 304 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: I think so too. But like, if that's the end 305 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: of his career, like Hall of Famer versus Hall of Famer, 306 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: kind of dream matchup with two of the best smaller 307 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: weight guys in boxing history, I think that could be 308 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I mean, don't air at thirty eight. 309 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, in a weird way, it feels like there's 310 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: still two years of big fights that he could potentially 311 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: get into if he's still fighting at this level. Yeah, no, 312 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: I agree. I haven't thought about the other, the other 313 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: option you mentioned, but yeah, they're they're Boy, the world's 314 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: his oyster right now. One one fifteen is a pretty 315 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: sexy weight class at the moment with you know, so 316 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: Rungbasi is down there. I mean you could class like, 317 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: you could have guys moving up at some point that 318 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: Donnaire would probably be I mean, to be physically bigger 319 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: than all of them. Yeah, that's where anybody coming up 320 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: in a weight class to him right now, Boy, beware 321 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: of what you wish for because in the ring, yeah, 322 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: he's big, He's really big. For one hundred and eighteen pounder, 323 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: and I think that really played itself out against Stubali. 324 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: You know, we saw again, I remember when you know, 325 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: we were doing his fights when he you know, when 326 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: he broke through and knocked out Vic Dartinian, And at 327 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: that moment, my feeling was, and I probably even said 328 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: it at some point that this his physical gifts at 329 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: this weight class make him very close to being unbeatable. 330 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: Not no one's unbeatable. Of course he wasn't, you know, 331 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: although he did actually his loss to Rigand I think 332 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: was at a weight class above that. But but you know, 333 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: at that way, it's really tough for somebody, you know, 334 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: coming up and wait, hey one, fifteen, one, eighteen, one, 335 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: twenty two. They are all fantastic weight divisions. And I 336 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: love the fact that all the different platforms in two boxing, 337 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: for the most part, are doing what American TV hasn't 338 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: always done. And at his feature the small guys, Yeah, 339 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: they've proved to be really entertaining in h in most 340 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: of the fights that they've created. Let's talk about the 341 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: one you're working this weekend in Florida. Floyd Mayweather Junior 342 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: back in action, fighting Logan Paul in an exhibition match 343 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: in Miami. My take on these types of things out 344 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: is that they're almost like the new autograph signings, right. 345 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: You know, in years past, guys would show up for 346 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: autograph signings and picture takings and make some money off that. 347 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: Now they're just using their name to get into fights 348 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: with popular figures. In this case, because it's twenty twenty one. 349 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: YouTube stars guys with a huge following that can convince 350 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: their fans to plunk down forty nine ninety nine whatever 351 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: the amount is to watch their guy go up against 352 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: an all time great box or. We used to see 353 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: some of this, you know, back of the day Ali, 354 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, going over to Japan to fight the rest. 355 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, stuff like this happened. Butterbean was involved in 356 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: exhibitions for a long period of time, so it's not shocking. Yeah, 357 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: it's it's got a precedent to it. So I guess 358 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: give me your reaction when this was first this first 359 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: hit your radar. Floyd Mayweather coming back in his early 360 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: forties to face Logan Paul, who's going to have, you know, 361 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: but three four inches and thirty plus pounds on him. Well, 362 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: I love your analogy to it being the current day 363 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: autograph signing because that's really what it is. Um and Chris. 364 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: We live in a society where you can create something 365 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: out of whole cloth. Uh. You know, these people get 366 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: famous for being famous. You know. When I was a 367 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: little kid, I used to watch the Little Dating Me 368 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: completely the Jack par Show when I was really young, 369 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: and there were these people on there that that were 370 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Broadway actresses and like Bennett Surf who was a publisher 371 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: and wrote and everything. And to me, I didn't know 372 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: what they were famous for. I just knew they were 373 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: on the Jack par Show. So there, you know. But 374 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: now we have people that are famous for being famous. 375 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Ergo the Paul brothers and uh. And I wasn't shocked 376 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: when I heard that he was gonna you know that 377 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: he was gonna do it. Uh. And I wasn't super 378 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: shocked that we were involved because we were so involved 379 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: with Sloyd Mayweather the Showtime Broadcast family. And I see 380 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: all these things much the way you just were describing it. 381 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: They're one offs. They're they're they're driven or not driven, 382 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: as the case may be. And that's where you see 383 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: how the commerce works or doesn't work on these things. 384 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: I participated in the his brother's matchup with Ascern, which 385 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: did well financially apparent. Yes you did, al yes you did, Yes, 386 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: I did. I did. I still still having nightmares, but 387 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: I did participate, so um but uh you know so, yeah, 388 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: these things are driven by the commerce of the moment 389 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: and by the idea that you know. And Floyd Mayweather 390 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: is really kind of so smart in this way because 391 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: he knows that he's been out of it just long enough, 392 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: and this guy's just big enough and just brash enough 393 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: for them to kind of sell it, and that's what 394 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: they're doing. Yeah. I if Floyd wants to make some 395 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: money off his name, more power to him. This week, 396 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: there was some revelations that made it more kind of goofy. 397 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: The Florida Commission is apparently not going to sanction it 398 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: as a fight, so there won't be a official scorecard 399 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to this. There still could be a knockout, 400 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: I guess, and the referee will call it, so we'll 401 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: see how that changes things, if it does at all. 402 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: I guess my question for you would be, is there 403 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: anything that can happen in this quote fight that would 404 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: diminish Floyd made with his legacy? And yeah, that's a 405 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: good question. It's a very good question. And you know this. 406 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: Logan Paul has never beaten anybody in a boxing ring, right, 407 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: even in the one match he had, he didn't win, 408 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: right for zoomab Blake. And so when you if you 409 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: step into the ring with him, even if you've been 410 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: out of the game, and even if you're giving up 411 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: thirty pounds, and even if you're whatever. We live in 412 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: a society now, especially that is perfectly willing to overreact 413 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: in every conceivable way to anything that I see. And 414 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't know but that in a certain odd kind 415 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: of a way, there is some pressure on n May 416 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: whether to not let the unthinkable happen. Do not let 417 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: Logan Paul somehow, by accident or by design do something 418 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: to him that would end up in the disaster that night? 419 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: Were you at the opinion out when you look back 420 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: at you know, by we say by design. Did you 421 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: think during the Econo McGregor fighte that Floyd carried him 422 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: for those early rounds let himself get him afterwards? Yes, 423 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: at the time I wasn't sure. Afterwards I believe yes, 424 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: to be honest, I think he I think he realized 425 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: that they had to have a show for people and 426 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: calculated that if Maywether, if McGregor had some success, he 427 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: could live with it and then still get him, and 428 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: that is what happened. So I do honestly think he 429 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: probably did. Yeah, I agree, and I think we could 430 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: see something I didn't at the time. I wasn't sure. 431 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell. But watching the reaers and thinking about it, 432 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think probably probably it's the case. 433 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: I could see something similar to no matter with Logan Paul, 434 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: No matter what Shannon Briggs says, Like, Logan is not 435 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: some big puncher that is going to hurt Floyd Mayweather, 436 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: and Floyd if he wanted to put him down with 437 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: body shots, probably could do that pretty easily at some point. Yeah, 438 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: it's a good point. Good body work could do something 439 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: that could be significant. Um, are you of the opinion? 440 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, because you were presumably going to call the 441 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: Jake Paul fight coming up against Iron Woodley that's also 442 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: going to be on a showtime platform. You know, you 443 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: hear all the stuff. Is it good for boxing? Is 444 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: it bad for boxing? Is it in between? What's your 445 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: take on you know, Jake Paul and these YouTubers getting 446 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: real boxing slots albeit ones in kind of goofy exhibitions 447 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: like there for a conversation for another day is like, 448 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: can you know mixed martial arts really handle like so 449 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: many stars getting starched by Jake Paul? Like if that's 450 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: how this kind of continues, Like, I mean, that's I 451 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: don't know how if that affects, you know, the the 452 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: image of mixed martial arts. But as far as boxing goes, 453 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: the Jake Paul stuff, the Logan Paul stuff that continues, 454 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: do you see it being any kind of positive or 455 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: negative for boxing vers it just unique in what it is. 456 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: I view these things as as as one off. So 457 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: I view these things as individual events that are driven 458 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: by the commerce at the moment, the the the marketing 459 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 1: tools that become available based on somebody's brand, and uh 460 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: and and and I think that I put them over 461 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: there in that little box. Now. One of the reasons 462 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: it makes a little easier to put it over there 463 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: in that little box is that boxing is delivering to 464 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: fans in twenty twenty one that for the most part, 465 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: and of course there's always matches that we want to 466 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: see made and should be made, and boxing will always 467 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: eternally fall short of the mark on some of them unfortunately. 468 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: But the sport is delivering to people. And so if 469 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: you've got this thing over here that they're going to say, 470 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: if you want to pay forty nine dollars to do this, 471 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: you can do it. I don't think it damages the 472 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: integrity the sport or ends up having some you know, 473 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: some some huge long lasting impact. I just don't uh. 474 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: And and I think that, you know, it's part of 475 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: it's part of the equation right now at this moment. 476 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: How long that lasts, I don't know, And no one 477 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: can say out um and and and in what form 478 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: it lasts? Like we know for even on the even 479 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: on the cards, like on a Tiler card you had 480 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: Steve Cunningham and Frank Muir. Well that's different, let's say, 481 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: than Logan Paul against you know, somebody else, because they're 482 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: just they're YouTubers that like to box. Well, these two 483 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: guys who were combat sports people who you know who 484 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: who intermingled and the the M and A boxing equation 485 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: to me has always been the one that uh, anybody 486 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: that follows both those sports uh with um uh you 487 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: know a lot of passion and a lot of knowledge 488 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: understands that You're never going to get a true test 489 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: between the two in either discipline. If you bring an 490 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: MMA guy over to boxing, for the most part, it's 491 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: going to be difficult for him, and certainly for boxers, 492 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: unless they are like Holly Holme who already had his 493 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: skill as a kickboxer. Um More. Mostly it's not going 494 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: to go that welt for boxers going into you know, 495 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: let's say, try to do MMA. No. I mean, I 496 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: was in Boston when James Tony got starched. I think 497 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: it's in the first round. Two entirely different disciplines despite 498 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: both being combat sports. Let me get you out of 499 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: here with this. In the world of hypotheticals. We got 500 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: Manny Packy out facing Errol Spence this summer. At least 501 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: that's the plan for right now. If for some reason 502 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: Paki out beats Errol Spence, which would be an incredible 503 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: accomplishment at forty two years old, to beat the top 504 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: dog in the welterweight division would be wild. Could you 505 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: see Floyd coming back for a rematch with Pakio. You've 506 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: covered Floyd for a long time. You've heard, You've heard 507 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: the retirement stuff from Floyd over and over again. I 508 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: tend to believe it more this time, and it has 509 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: been what four years since he's been in an actual fight, 510 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: but he does have a massive ego. And if people 511 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: are out there saying Packie out beating Eryl Spence catapults 512 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: Pakiow past Floyd in the mythical eternal pound for pound rankings, 513 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna get in Floyd's head, like he's gonna put 514 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: stuff on Instagram about it. Maybe it's a picture of 515 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: Pacio getting beat up in their fight, or Pacio getting 516 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: knocked out by one Manuel Marquez. I don't expect it 517 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: to happen because I think Spence is the real deal 518 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: at one forty seven and as good as Pakiow looked 519 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: against Keith Thurman, Thurman is a different fighter than Spence, 520 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: and that was two years ago for Pakio. But if 521 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: it happened, could you think it's possible we could see 522 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: Mayweather versus Pakiow two, which would be maybe not as 523 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: big as the first fight, but if Pakiow's coming off 524 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: that win, that's like three million pay per view buys 525 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: ow that's still a big, big number that we're talking about. 526 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't even though that's That's about the 527 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: third thing you brought up in this call that I 528 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: have not even thought about what either means that you're 529 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: brilliant at coming up with him, she's just scenarios or 530 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm an imbecile. Could be a combination of both the place. 531 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: But that is a fascinating point, And it would be 532 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: from a financial standpoint, uh, something that would be amazing 533 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: because you have pack Out who everyone knows would be 534 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: on the way out at that point or would be 535 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, it certainly would either be retiring or maybe 536 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: I guess, maybe do one more fight. But yeah, clearly 537 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: I think that that's in rect thinking about what you're discussing. 538 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule that out because because it would be 539 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: it would be something that would be real, you know, 540 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: and and and because he did be Mayweather fighting is 541 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: an active champion who just did the impossible by being 542 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: aero Spence and they you know, you're saying it wouldn't 543 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: a been bigger first one. It might not be. But 544 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I think that's one of those 545 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: ones where you know how baseball teams say when we 546 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: throw our hand, we're so good, when we throw our 547 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: hat on the diamond, we were five underball club. Well, 548 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: when those guys throw their glove in the ring, they're 549 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: good for one point five million pay per views right 550 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: from the get go when you start, and then you 551 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: start building that and uh and that would be an 552 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: astonishing event, you know. And again some people will say, oh, 553 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: let's not do that, you know, but in that instance, 554 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what harm that does either, because here's 555 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: pack out the right at the end of his you know, 556 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: his career, and if Baylor wanted to do that, you know, 557 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: it's it's so sellable too, you know, Pacy Ow, you know, 558 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: knocking off arguably the top guy at one f Yeah, 559 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean Mayweather putting his undefeated record on the line, 560 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: coming back into that mix to fight his long time rival. Yeah. 561 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the first fight was five years too late, 562 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: but people still bought it in droves. I mean, Packy'd 563 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: been knocked out in between by Marquez in the years 564 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: prior to that fight taking place. It's still did major business. 565 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: I just it will all come down to Floyd. We 566 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: know Pakia would do it right like he you know, 567 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: wants that May with a fight. Freddie Roach wants that 568 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: May with a fight. All comes down to Floyd and 569 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: if Pacio beating Thurman didn't do anything for Floyd, that's 570 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: for sure. But if he beats Spence, who you know 571 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: Floyd used to work with, has been around Floyd's Jim, 572 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: Floyd knows he's one of the pound for pound guys. 573 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that would get his attention, Like that 574 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: would be the one thing that gets his attention. I 575 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: would think so and and and the fact and forget 576 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: it would be set up in such a way, and 577 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: of course they go, you know, we live in an 578 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: area or an era of spin doctoring, and they can 579 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: always remind people that he had a damage shoulder just 580 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: before all the storylines from the from the the first 581 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: fight will re emerge and and and be used as 582 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: part of the promotional um machinery to drive that fight. 583 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: As you point out, for this, it's like kind of 584 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: like the producers, all right, for this scheme. For us, 585 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: for this scheme door number one, we need a lot 586 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: of little ladies out there with a lot of money. 587 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: Right in this case, we need we need what could 588 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: be the impossible. We need Manny packed out to beat 589 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: Errol Spence, which isn't likely, but it is not impossible. Yeah, 590 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: I agree, Al, good luck this weekend calling the Fight 591 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: Showtime pay per view Mayweather against Logan Paul. Always a 592 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: big event when Floyd is involved, regardless of whether he's 593 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: an active fighter or just an exhibition. Always appreciate it, Al, 594 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: thanks for joining me Man. 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Now undefeated. 668 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: But before he goes into the Hall of Fame, he's 669 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: getting back in the ring in an exhibition, this time 670 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: against Logan Paul, the YouTube star who is technically own 671 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: one as a professional boxer. But that's not really what 672 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: this fight is all about. The fight that you can 673 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: see on Sunday, you can only see it on Showtime 674 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: pay per view, and Floyd joins me here on the 675 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: show Floyd. The last few years, these YouTube guys have 676 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: started to gain a lot of popularity. When did you 677 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: start to think, hey, maybe I can make some money 678 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: off this. Well, actually, let me be honest with you. 679 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: John Shady a very very close friend of mine, if 680 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, he used to work with Jake Paul 681 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: and Logan Ball. I heard their names from him before 682 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: then I heard about them boxing. So John said, these 683 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: guys want you to work with him. So I was 684 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: in LA one time I met him with the guys 685 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: I've been thinking, was Jake Bau. I don't know if 686 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: it's Logan Bawl to Jake bar but I believe it 687 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: was Jake Bau took a picture with him. Both guys 688 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 1: were fans, big fans. Then um I was over in Japan. 689 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: I was hanging with Money Team Tokyo. I was a 690 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: huge following in Japan. They were talking about Jake. I 691 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: think Logan Paul one day said that he disrespected not 692 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: just Tokyo, but he disrespected I mean he disrespected the 693 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: whole country. And because you know, you got different parts 694 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: of Japan. And the guy said Logan Paul was very disrespectful. 695 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: He did this, he did dad, he did this, he 696 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: did that. I didn't really know, so I never really 697 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: believe even knew these guys. Then I was in Vegas 698 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: one time, I was at my skating rink. One of 699 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: my fighters, Jenny I Love, brought Jake Paul over to 700 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: take a picture with me. When Jake Paul was getting 701 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: ready for Nate Robinson, I told him I didn't think 702 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: that was a good idea to be mixing me up, 703 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: you know with with a bunch of bullcrap. So then, um, 704 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: I had done something for Fanio one day and then 705 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: they said, um what. A friend of mine said, yo, 706 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 1: a guy Logan Paul. Because I didn't know the difference 707 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: between local ball and j Bau, the guy Logan Paul, 708 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: want to do an exhibition fight with you in your 709 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: boxygym three rounds. I said, um, holding, I said, I 710 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: don't really know about that. The guy said, well, I'm 711 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: serious floor. I said, well I serious, you are? You 712 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: gave me one point five million Cash said, were you serious? 713 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: So then I said, well, you don't give me one 714 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: point five millen like this. And then this guy got, 715 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, eighteen nineteen million followers and he's huge on YouTube. 716 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: I said, well, let's do it like this. Let's fighting. 717 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: I said, let's take it to the next level. Let's 718 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: build this thing and put it in a in a 719 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: football stadium. So we was gonna fight in the Raider Stadium. 720 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: The latter commissioner said they didn't want it, but the 721 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: NGM grant said, we approve of it in every other 722 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: hotel in the host The Las Vegas approved of it, 723 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: but then a vatter commission then approve of it. So 724 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: then I said, okay, let's take it to Miami. Miami said, 725 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: let's do it. So now we're here. Have you missed boxing? 726 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: I missed boxing? Absolutely not? Why not? This is this 727 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: is I just don't miss it. I did in my 728 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: whole life. Anytime you've done something, um U forty some 729 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: years and you broke every record and you dominated in 730 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: every field, it is what it is. It's trying to 731 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: move on, um to other things in life. Sometimes people 732 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: get recharged and you've you've retired before and come back 733 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: after you've maybe recharge your batteries. Is that just not 734 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: happened to start? But I didn't retire in my forties. 735 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: I retired earlier. I retired early on, So this is 736 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: totally it's totally different when you retire in your forties. 737 00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: Do you watch much boxing? Um? I promote more than 738 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: I watched. I like to promote the young fighters and 739 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: put them in position, in a certain position so they 740 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: can accomplish what they want to accomplish. Do I watch 741 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: a lot of boxing? Absolutely not. Do you think boxing's 742 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: in a good place? Boxing isn't a good place? And 743 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: that has a lot to do with me. Why's that? 744 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: It just has a lot to do with me? I 745 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: mean I was able to get involved in the sport 746 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: of boxing, change the dynamics. Remember boxing talking about heavyweights, 747 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: Remember Larry Holmes, Joe Lewis, Mike Tyson before Floyd Maywell. 748 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: Before Floyd Maywell, it came along. When I came along, 749 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: it was it was about all the small guys or 750 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: all the way classes that I went to. And then 751 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: you never heard now look at all these guys getting 752 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: crazy paid days. You start up with Floyd may Well 753 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: the first it did. Do you think though, that boxers 754 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: like they all want to stay undefeated, and that's because 755 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: you were undefeated, But you took a lot of chances 756 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: early in your career like you you were not like 757 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: you fought the very best when you were pretty boy, Floyd. Okay, okay, 758 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: even though I retire undefeated, I'm here to tell fighters this, 759 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: It's not about being undefeated your whole career. It's about 760 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: accomplishing what you want to accomplish, doing what you want 761 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: to do, being who you want to be. And at 762 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: the end of your career, if you're happy with what 763 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: you did, then so be it. But also I want 764 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: to tell these fighters it's about saving your money. I'm 765 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: where I'm at because I made smart, smart investments. I 766 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: saved my money and I made smart investments. So I 767 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: want these fighters. I want to teach these fighters about 768 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: saving their money. But that's where I come in in 769 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: a good place, and not just a boxing promoter, but 770 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: just just as a motivation guy on the outside, pushing 771 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: these guys to be great on the outside. Last question 772 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: for you, are you expecting. What are you expecting to 773 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: go down in this fight? Are you expecting a real fight? 774 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: Are you expecting Logan Paul to try to clown what 775 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: are you expecting? I mean, he can fight a real fight. 776 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a fun even if. I mean it's 777 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a spectacle, but it's gonna be fun. It's 778 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna be what it's gonna be. I can't really say 779 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: how are we gonna play out, But at the end 780 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: of the day, I laugh when the guys didn't gonna 781 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: knock me out. This is crazy. I mean, I've been 782 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: hit by some of the biggest guys, I mean, the 783 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: heaviest hitters in boxing, not all of them, because, of 784 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: course I'm the best defensive fighter of all times as 785 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: well as offensive fighters of all the time. That's why, 786 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: mister TV, of course you are. Floyd. Appreciate your time, man, 787 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Thank you all right. That's Floyd 788 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: Mayweer pound for Pound King, former Pound for Pound Kings 789 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: fighting Logan Paul on June sixth,