WEBVTT - 03/25/21 DPS Best Of 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.600 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:08.360 Sports Radio. NHL announced yesterday that referee Tim Peel will 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:10.840 not be calling games now or in the future. That's 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:14.280 kind of a polite way of saying you're fired if 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.560 you missed the story. Peel was caught on a broadcast 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.919 saying that he wanted to call a penalty against Nashville early. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.200 His language was more colorful. It didn't help that the 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.240 story blew up, but also assigned to the times because 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:32.440 in every sport, officials used to be more colorful. When 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.400 you go back in baseball, Joe West or Eric Greg 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:39.360 ed Hockley in the NFL, Joey Crawford in the NBA, 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:46.680 colorful characters they thought you were paying to see them. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.040 There's old school umpires and referees who probably had no 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.440 problem with the profanity that was used by Tim Peel. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.400 But it's a bigger issue now. Mike's are catching everything, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:02.360 players have more power, There's calls for transparency, more transparency 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.680 because of legalized gambling, and all of this means that 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:10.520 there's less tolerance bad behavior, and unfortunately it means Tim 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:15.440 Peel will not work in the NHL. Again. We've been 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.399 discussing this. We probably spent about twenty minutes on this 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.920 this morning. We're just sitting around talking about it. I 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.440 need a little more information here. I don't know what 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:29.319 his reasoning or motivation was to say, Hey, I'm going 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.960 to call penalty on the predators. And we did reach out. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.160 Fritzie reached out to Tim to see if he wanted 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:36.800 to tell his story on the show. We have not 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.920 heard back from him, but that offer still stands if 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.760 he wants to join us and talk about this, because 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.960 I don't know what the context is. I have a 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.560 four second clip where he's saying, I want to, you know, 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:54.400 I gotta call a penalty on the predators. What did 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.360 he say prior to that? What happened prior to that? 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.560 What did he say after that? What happened after that? 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.360 Was he trying to police the sport. Was he trying 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.240 to say, guys, I'm not going to let you get chippy, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.359 or I don't like the direction of what's going on 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.360 right now. I don't know any of those things. And 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.280 I thought he would at least now. I know he's 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.079 retiring this year, like in a month, but he still 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.160 got fired. And I just want to have context, what 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.320 you said, how you said it, why you said it, 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.720 when you said it, had something happened with the predators 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:33.280 before a previous game, whatever that is. I understand the 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.720 sensitivity of this. I understand if you're the commissioner, Gary Bettman, 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.440 you can't have any doubt when you go to a 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.680 game about the officials. We've had doubts. I think we 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.840 all feel like referees are out to get our player 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.080 or our team. There's a bias. I understand all of that. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:59.480 And they're human. I truly believe that you have baseball 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:03.520 umpires who don't like certain players and may call the 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:12.480 game accordingly consciously, subconsciously. I really feel that way. Not pretty, 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.040 but it's real there. You can't go into the game. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.239 I know that they're professionals. They're told to be professionals. 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:25.480 Act professional without having the human side of this. And 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:31.720 if there's history Joey Crawford through Tim Duncan, Tim Duncan 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:37.360 out of a game for laughing from the bench like 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:44.960 they're just okay, how do you explain that? I mean, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.080 imagine if Joey Crawford said to another official, Hey, if 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.080 Duncan keeps laughing over there, I'm going to run it 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.920 like the personal side of this. That's what I want 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:59.720 to know. Do I think that this happens without verbal acknowledgement. 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:04.720 I do, and I've been doing this a long time. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.960 It's a strange story. I see both sides. Tim Peel 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:15.960 could be saying without saying it. You know, I'm gonna 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.599 stop this now. I don't like where this is going. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.200 I don't like what the predators are doing. It's just 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.720 he said it. The verbal acknowledgment is what cost him 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:30.120 his job. Do I think officials get together and they 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:35.680 say things like this. Imagine this baseball game. You get 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.440 ready to start the game. Let's say there's a fight, 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:42.479 bench clearing, brawl, three game series, this is the last game, 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.720 and you say to start the game to both managers 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.960 and both pitchers. I'm not putting up with any nonsense. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.280 So now I'm not calling the game as if it 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:59.000 was just a standalone game. I'm bringing something into this. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.679 But if you say, hey, look if Trevor Bauer throws inside, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.720 I'm running him. So both sides know this. Everybody knows this, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.360 and that's how you're going to umpire the game. Imagine 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.680 if an umpire would say to another umpire man. I'm 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.479 sick and tired of this. You know his nonsense out there. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:20.760 You know I'm going to run him. Now that's different. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:27.360 That's you inspiring with another umpire, Then it's different. Do 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.960 I think Tim Donneghee is a standalone rogue official in 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:39.120 the NBA? I don't. Maybe I'm naive that. I don't 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:44.760 think he was a standalone rogue official. They're human. Tim 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.600 Peel made a mistake, he'll pay for it. But I 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.200 think in fairness to him, I would love to know 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.280 exactly what happened, what led up to it, Why did 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.960 you feel that way, Why did you say that? Why 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:03.880 did the other official agree with you? You? I just 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:08.320 want the story. That's it, and they may not change 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.599 my mind, But I think in fairness to these stories, 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.599 all of it, all of these stories we cover in sports, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.719 Deshaun Watson prime example, you've already made up your mind. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.600 I haven't. I just want to know what's involved here, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.240 the whole story, both sides of the story, and the 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.520 same with something like this with Tim Peel who lost 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:39.159 his job, Deshaun Watson, who could go to prison, varying 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.800 degrees here of what's going on and listening to both 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.000 sides of the story. And it's hockey and people may 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.400 not care. But I look at this as don't look 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.359 at it as the sport of hockey. It could be 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.000 any sport. It could be soccer in the Premier League. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:07:03.200 It could be baseball, basketball, college basketball. Eight seven seven 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.960 three DP show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.160 Twitter handle at DPS show. Say good morning to Pecan. 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:15.800 They carried this program all three hours, coming out hot today, 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:19.640 coming out hot, Yes, one little thing because you said, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.600 you want more context, you want more story. The NHL's 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.320 release when they fired Tim Peel said, quote, there's no 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.480 justification for his comments, no matter the context or his intention. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.520 They have no interest in the context or releasing it 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.640 or investigating it. They fired him within I think a 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.880 day and a half of the game. You know, the 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.880 action came less than twenty four hours after he officiated 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.000 the game. They should actually do the opposite and make 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.080 him do an interview, or have him do an interview 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:49.880 so it doesn't appear that it's gambling related now. Shortly after, 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.400 one of the players for Nashville was whistled for a 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:58.320 tripping penalty on a Detroit player. The rink side TV 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:03.920 microphone picked up the official Tim Peel saying it wasn't much, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:08.320 but I wanted to get a bleeping penalty against Nashville. Early, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.320 the NHL determined that the voice was Peels and said 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.800 that the ref would no longer be working NHL games 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.800 now or in the future. And then the NHL came 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.280 out and said, you know, nothing's more important than ensuring 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.280 the integrity of our game. Okay, I don't know if 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.800 this is a makeup call. I don't know if this 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.920 is a call to just I want to establish this 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.600 happens in the NBA, happens in baseball. But an umpire 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.800 or an official will warn you. A lot of times. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.560 You'll hear the officials say to a player, Hey, I'm 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.000 not putting up with that. Hey, I'm going to call 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.800 that like. They will give you the benefit of the doubt. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:51.560 Not always, but players will tell you. Officials will give 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.959 you heads Hey, I'm gonna call holding on that, all right. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:59.000 They try to be fair to you and they will 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:00.400 give you a little bit of a head up. I 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.240 don't know what else happened here. I don't know if 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.439 there was something that was so egregious where Tim Peel 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.640 missed a call and then said I got to make 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.360 up for it, or to me, it feels like I'm 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:15.280 not going to put up with any of this nonsense 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.720 here between you guys and Hey, it wasn't much, but 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.640 I'm going to call it because I don't like the 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.120 direction this game is going is That's the feeling I had, 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.679 But I don't know what else was said after that. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.920 That's the only piece of audio I've heard about with 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:37.319 you know, Tim Peel's voice attached to it. That's it. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.280 But he doesn't even get a hearing. It's like nope. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.160 And I thought, okay, you take him off the ice. 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.319 He doesn't referee a game. You at least let him 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.720 have his day and you're sending him into the penalty 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.720 box as a referee. He got a time out, but 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.080 that's all. If it was another sport, imagine this is 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:01.760 the NFL. NFL it would be on national news. This 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.360 would be huge. If you had an official who said 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:11.120 to another official, you know what, I'm I gotta it's 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.679 not that bad, but you know he's still he hit 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.599 Brady again in the head, and uh, you know, I 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:20.960 I'm you know, I gotta call it. I mean, we 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.400 can fill in the dialogue and then it would mean 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.000 more if it was a different sport. This has happened 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.000 in tennis, where you've had players who have thrown matches 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.040 or do you have you know, an umpire who's on 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.800 the take, Like it's going to happen. The amount of 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:41.720 money that's attached to this, it's only going to get 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:47.560 worse because these officials are probably going to say, these 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.720 guys are making all the money, and the league's making 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.040 all the money, and here I am, I'm the one 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.720 that's running the game. Here, just look at the human 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.320 side of this. What's it going to take? How much's 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:04.200 it gonna take? Hey, and plus In hockey, if I 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.280 call a penalty, Let's say there's five power play opportunities 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.040 for a team and I call two of those in 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:16.360 a game, that's a big advantage. In the NFL, I 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.000 don't take a player off the field, and hockey, I 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.800 send you to the bench. Power play goal Now, all 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.880 of a sudden, if I have two of those and 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:28.720 you have I'm responsible for two of the five, could 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.040 change the game. Yeah, Bully, I had an idea years ago. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.800 Instead of sending the player to the penalty box, he 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.960 just has to play the shift without a stick. I 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.880 mean that would really be fast. He's just skate around. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.280 I think you should play without skates. Rights. 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Listen to Lights Out with Sean Merriman 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.720 on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:41.040 Talking to a source last night and I'm just curious 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.480 what's going to happen with the Jets, And I said, 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.560 do you think the Jets will go with Zach Wilson? 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.440 And my source said, it's too early to be giving 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.800 up on Donald, especially with a team around him. But 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.800 the GM didn't draft him. I would think that they're 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.680 hoping to trade out. There are a lot of people 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.040 who really like Wilson in striking distance for the second pick. 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.520 The Jets really improve with the deal with numerous picks. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.920 He also says they have a good amount of cap space. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.280 New head coach will listen to the front office. I 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.720 think picks is what they would prefer to do, but 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.520 was told if there isn't a blockbuster deal involving that 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.200 second pick, overall, the GM will take Wilson, who he 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.800 thinks is great. It's bringing Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.680 and of course lead content strategies for the Monday Morning Quarterback. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.920 Where do you think we stand with the Jets there? Albert, 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.360 I think they're still open to moving Donald. I think 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.000 if somebody had given them their price, they may they 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.800 may have moved him. Already, and I think that price 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.480 is probably around a second round pick and something else 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:44.280 maybe in between, like what the Niners got for Alex 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.000 Smith all those years ago, which was two twos, and 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.320 what the Cardinals got for Josh Rosen twenty nineteen, which 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.080 is a two and a five. So, you know, I 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.640 think they're still, you know, very open to listening to offers. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.640 Eight teams have called them on Sam Arnold, so there 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.600 has been some level of interest, you know, and I 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.000 think for the new GM Joe Douglas, who's been there 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.720 for a couple of years now, actually the new coach, 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.480 Robert Sala, you know, really the ideal for them was 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.520 to be able to see the quarterbacks throw live and 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.840 get all of their medicals before moving Darnald or making 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.480 a final decision to move Darnold. And Zach Wilson throws tomorrow, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.920 Justin Fields throws next week, So by the time we 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:27.960 get to the middle of next week, the Jets are 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.800 going to have seen everyone throw live, and I think 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.840 they're gonna have a better idea of what they're looking 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.640 at with the BYU quarterback, with the Ohio State quarter back. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.840 They've obviously already seen Trey Lance throw. So I still 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.160 think the likelihood as they take Zach Wilson and find 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.840 a way to move Sam Darnold. But they've been trying to, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.200 I think, like kind of I guess, maintain some level 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.360 of flexibility here until they actually get to see these 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.760 guys throwing. Its important to remember Dan too. It's a 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.920 very different year. Scouts really weren't on the road in 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.120 the fall. There was no combine, so you know, oh 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.760 Douglas physically has not been eye to eye with Zach 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:08.560 Wilson or Justin Fields yet, and making a final decision 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.520 on one of those guys without actually being able to 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.520 size them up, you know, with your own eyes, to 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.680 tie your job security to that guy, which is what 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:18.960 you're doing if you take a quarterback second. Overall, it's 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.840 a scary thing to do. So these are an important 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.320 couple days ahead for the Jets, but also leverage wise 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.000 that you don't want to chip your hand if you're 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.640 the Jets, that you still want to have that mystery 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.720 of are we keeping Darnald? Do you want that number 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.640 two pick? If you trade Darnald, then everybody knows what 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.280 you're doing with the number two pick, right, And I 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.800 think they mean they still really like Darnald, you know, 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.840 like that's the thing about it. They really do like Sam. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.680 You know, I think they just feel like at this 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:47.400 point they either have to go all in on him 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:52.040 or cut the chord. And really that's logistically where they 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.520 are in the contract. You know, after three years, you know, 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.280 the way these contracts work with with first round picks, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.720 that's where the decision point comes. That's when you have 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.400 to make a decision on the fifth year option. These 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.720 guys become eligible for long term deals at the same time, 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.400 so you know, you're sending a signal what you think 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.920 of the guy after year three because you have to 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.480 make the decision on the fifth year option and you 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:14.960 have to make a decision on whether or not to 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.400 extend him. And so that's sort of why I think 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.120 they are where they are with Sam. Would they like 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.720 to see him for a couple more years, sure, you know, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.240 like if they had him at a good rate, that'd 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.560 be fine. The fact is they're gonna they'd have to 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.600 pay him almost twenty million dollars to keep them in 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.680 twenty twenty two, which makes that decision I think a 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.720 little more difficult. But you know, to your point, you know, 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.720 maintaining you know that the mystery till Draft day, I 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.400 might be the smart move. It's what the Cardinals did, right. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.880 Cardinals wouldn't I wouldn't tip their hand to anybody. Now. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.880 I think some of us knew that Kyler Murray was 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.080 probably going to be a big pick for a couple 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:49.800 of weeks leading up to that draft, but they held 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.440 on to Josh rose and all the way up until 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.000 Draft Day and didn't move him actually until the day 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.280 after they took Kyler Murray. I was also told by 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:02.480 source the safest pick in the draft aside from Trevor Lawrence. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:09.159 Do you want to guess besides Trevor Lawrence, Yes, Kyle Pitts, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:14.800 Patrick Curtain Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, said that that's interesting, 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:20.240 like Curtan's interesting, and that he's got NFL bloodlines. He's 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.880 like his tape is like very very clean. What they 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.040 say about certain is that maybe he doesn't have the 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:30.880 ceiling that Virginia Techs Caleb Farley or South Carolina's JC 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.240 Horn have, Like he's not quite the freak athlete that 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.600 those guys are. But I think, I mean, I think 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.760 whoever told you that, Dan see what they're saying, because 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.600 you know, he's sort of I mean just I mean, 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.399 I can't imagine you find too many NFL people that 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.840 would look at him and not think this guy's a 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.720 ten year starter in the league. Now, will he become 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.919 Darrell ReBs? You know, maybe Horn or Farley have a 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.280 better chance of being that sort of player. But I 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.919 don't think there's any question that there's a consensus that 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.879 Curtain's going to step into the NFL and be a 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.639 really solid player. I'd explain to me what's going on 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.520 with Green Bay because it feels like it's either something 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.960 good for Aaron Rodgers or it's something bad for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Well, 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.800 I think I'll the talk of the um, you know, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.119 the of the renegotiation. And I think one thing we 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.280 all have to remember here, when when players restructure their contracts, 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.480 they're really not giving up anything, right, Um, They're basically 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.720 moving money around and sometimes they're getting the cash in 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.359 their pocket faster, which can help the team from a 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.359 cap standpoint. That's all that's really happening in most of 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.600 these cases. There are cases where they're pay cuts. This 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.560 isn't going to be one of those, and there are 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.959 in a lot of cases, um, you know, triggers in 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.600 the in the players contract where they can do these 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.800 things automatically. I think that the Packers, if they're going 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.399 to restructure Aaron Rodgers, they're going to go to him first. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.240 And to me, like this would seem to be like 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.040 an elegant solution, right Like if you go to Aaron 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.000 Rodgers and you say, okay, like we're going to continue 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.480 building the team that we've built, and we're gon we're 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.879 not going to veer off of the way that we've 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.560 tried to put this whole thing together, but we're gonna 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.000 work with you. So we're gonna restructure you. We're gonna 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:12.960 get some money in your pocket a little bit earlier 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.439 than you would have gotten out otherwise, and we're going 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.919 to use the cap savings to go add player X, 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.560 player why or player Z. To me like that, that 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.160 would be a very elegant way of addressing the concern 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.280 that Aaron Rodgers has that the Packers aren't working with 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.960 enough urgency, working with say the urgency the Chiefs have 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.440 with Patrick Mahomes or the Buccaneers have with Tom Brady 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.040 and saying like, okay, like we've got X amount of 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.000 cap space. We're going to work with you to try 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.920 and improve the team, but we're still not going to 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.160 veer off of what our principles have been in putting 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.439 this whole thing together. But at some point, what are 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.720 the Packers doing with Jordan Love? Because the benefit is 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.119 the rookie contract, but we don't know if he can play, 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.959 And at some point don't either you admit you may 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:05.320 a mistake, or you say to Aaron Rodgers after next year, Aaron, 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.040 thank you, But now we got it. I mean, this 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.600 is the reason why you moved up in the draft 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.080 to get him in the first place. I think the 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.240 comparison that you want to look at here, like everybody 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.080 out there listening wants to look at, was the Patriots 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.520 drafting Jimmy Garoppolo in twenty and fourteen. When the Patriots 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.120 took Jimmy Garoppolo, Tom Brady was getting older, he wasn't 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:31.199 pleased with his contract situation, and like I think the 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.840 Patriots knew that was going to go up tom Brady's 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.520 tailpipe at that point. One of two things was going 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:41.400 to happen, right okay, Either a Tom Brady was going 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:46.600 to be reinvigorated and challenged and play at the top 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.919 of his game, or B Brady was going to age 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.359 and they were going to have a guy in place 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.760 to replace him. I think the exact same thing applies here. 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.800 I think the logic for the Packers and taking Jordan 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:02.600 Love last year was identical. You bring him in, right, 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.800 and you hope that maybe where the relationships gotten a 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:09.120 little strain. Now you get a supermotivated player. What happened, 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.840 he was the MVP of the league then, right, and 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:16.600 so like you get the supermotivated player and going forward, 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.439 now you also have the potential successor on the roster, 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.159 and so if he falls off at all over the 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.520 next two or three years, well then you know you've 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:27.680 got a tough decision to make. But at least you're 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.560 not in the wilderness looking for a quarter quarterback. You've 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.160 got an answer there on the roster. And like, what's 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:37.480 the worst case scenario? The worst case scenario? I like, 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:38.960 and I don't even want to call this the worst 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.960 case scenario. I mean, in Brady's case, what happened Brady 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:46.840 kept beating Garoppolo out. I mean Belichick started to build 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.320 a team for like the Brandon Cooks trade when they 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.199 trained for Brandon Cooks. That was for Jimmy Garoppolo. That 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.199 was a receiver that fit Jimmy Garoppolo's skill set, and 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.640 Brady kept playing at the level that he had been 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:02.080 playing over the course the first fifteen years of his career. 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.640 After the Jimmy Garoppolo trade, Tom Brady won three Super 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:09.040 Bowls in five years and the Patriots wound up having 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:12.240 to trade Jimmy Garoppolo. So that would be like, I mean, 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.520 like to me, it's like, it's either a Rogers ages 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.639 out and you've got Jordan Love on the roster to 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:22.240 replace him, or b Rogers places his ass off, and 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.480 now all of a sudden, two years from now, you're 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.040 in a position where maybe you have to think about 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:30.320 trading Jordan Love. Albert Breer, the senior NFL reporter for 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:33.679 the MMQB, I was wondering about the Texans situation with 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.080 Deshaun Watson. I don't know what they knew and when 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.480