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Speaker 1: things are changing at the running back position. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that we've got all these injuries in multiple backfields

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Speaker 1: and backfield committees and and and really again four running

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Speaker 1: backs that you can draft with confidence, and um, that's

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Speaker 1: that's not a lot. So staying with that game, Frank Gore,

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Speaker 1: where do you take him next year? Conservatively? Mid second round,

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Speaker 1: a little higher. I'm thinking third, second or I guess

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Speaker 1: second or third. I just he's I guess I should

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Speaker 1: say lower. He's a guy who and if you want

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Speaker 1: to get in your opinions on the running backs, by

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Speaker 1: the way, nine six, three two, I second or third round.

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Speaker 1: And again he's gonna be twenty nine. Uh potentially again

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Speaker 1: the Niners win this weekend, they play in the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the longest season of his career in the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: specter of Kendall Hunters seeing some more touches next season,

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Speaker 1: that's but that this is what we're gonna deal with

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Speaker 1: now in fantasy football. You're gonna be dealing with who

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Speaker 1: the hell do I started running back? Weekend and week

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Speaker 1: out because the position is sort of has sort of

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Speaker 1: gotten into this, you know, great big ball, and you've

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Speaker 1: got the tenth rated running back is so close in

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Speaker 1: value to like the that it's going to be more

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Speaker 1: difficult than ever to determine who just starting who just

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Speaker 1: sit at running back. We've got Randy Cross coming on,

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Speaker 1: former forts center and guard, former All Pro, former Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champion. He's got rings, CBS analyst, retired champion yet

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Speaker 1: retired a champion that's right, walked out after Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: twenty three, as did head coach Bill Walsh. She's coming

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Speaker 1: on here. In a second. We're gonna get more into

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Speaker 1: the running back question. I'd love to hear what some

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Speaker 1: of you out there think. Where would you draft a

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Speaker 1: guy like Frank Gore in your fantasy draft? But for now,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the NFL Fancy Live Special Edition.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's the same old fantasy fix we always throw

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Speaker 1: it too. I want to make it sound really cool.

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Speaker 1: Let's go the fantasy second out of five coming to

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans forty nine at a triple bunch to

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Speaker 1: the right for the forty Niners and the setup cores

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Speaker 1: in the game. Alex back to throw. Standing on the

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Speaker 1: edge of the logos. I'm a little lately chantstarted breaks

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Speaker 1: teacles and he is God. Touchdown forty Niners. If you

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Speaker 1: like the NFL, you're going to like NFL Fantasy Live

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Speaker 1: on Serious Sex Fantasy Sports Radio. NFL Fantasy Live. We're

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Speaker 1: here every win's day at twelve o'clock Pacific, three o'clock Eastern.

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Speaker 1: We join you two hours in the middle of the day,

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Speaker 1: talk to you a little bit about fantasy football and

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Speaker 1: other things in the Fantasy canteena which of course is

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Speaker 1: coming up at one o'clock Pacific. Again, we were talking

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Speaker 1: when we went to the break. We're never any cross.

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Speaker 1: We haven't gotten him on the phone yet. He may

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Speaker 1: be closing on an eBay auction that we're gonna be uh,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be very patient there. But we were talking

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Speaker 1: before we went to the break about a uh fellow

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Speaker 1: forty Niner, Frank Gore in where you would take him

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Speaker 1: the draft. So here's what I wanna present to you, FABS.

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Speaker 1: If you're sitting there at the sixth spot overall, okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's see in the Snake draft that would put

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Speaker 1: you at the nineteenth pick over on a twelve team. Uh,

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Speaker 1: would you at nineteen? Or if you have the twenty,

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Speaker 1: would you pass on Frank Gore? If the top quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: have already been taken, which they probably would have been,

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Speaker 1: your top four or five running backs would be gone

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Speaker 1: off the board. Let's say Jamal Charles is off the

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Speaker 1: board as well as the top four. Megatron's gone, Larry

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is gone, Andre Johnson is gone. Do you pass

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Speaker 1: on Frank Gore because that's probably what's gonna happen. De

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Speaker 1: Marco Murray still out there? De Marco Murray would be there.

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Speaker 1: I think I go upside. I'm going upside over old

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Speaker 1: running backs. Uh, and so de Marco Murray would be

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Speaker 1: a guy then, yeah, okay, I loved DeMarco Murray when

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Speaker 1: we were on NFL Fantasy Live. I brought him, brought

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Speaker 1: him up a week early. Uh. De Marco Murray and

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Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns last year. And Felix comes very good

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Speaker 1: at the end. He comes with risk too, But um,

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Speaker 1: I just I prefer upside. Well, we actually do have

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Speaker 1: Randy Cross on the line now, and and Randy I

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Speaker 1: was lamenting that we didn't have you right away. I

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Speaker 1: thought you might be closing on an eBay auction. We

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Speaker 1: didn't interrupt you closing on an eBay auction, did we? No,

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Speaker 1: not at all, Not at all. But you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pile all those chips on DeMarco Murray, you

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Speaker 1: better have a good backup for a month later. Felix

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Speaker 1: Jones would be the handcuff. Randy. It's good, good to

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Speaker 1: talk to you, my friend. You know, I thought Randy

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Speaker 1: was the perfect guest for our show this this week because,

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Speaker 1: of course, Randy, one of the great offensive lineman for

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners, retired on top, retired a champion,

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Speaker 1: and Randy had more than his share of battles in

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Speaker 1: the postseason against the New York Giants and the Phil

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Speaker 1: Sims teams. The first one and they played wasn't even

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Speaker 1: Phil Simms. Scott Bruner in one, they played in eight four,

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Speaker 1: they played him in eight five, and they played him

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Speaker 1: again in six. So, Randy, are you're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: furrow seat for this game? And what is your take

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Speaker 1: on this? Is it going to be the forty defense

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Speaker 1: or is it gonna be Eli Manning and the Giants offense?

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Speaker 1: What you know, it sounds funny to say because everybody

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Speaker 1: worries about snow and frozen fields and all that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the weather does have something to do with

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Speaker 1: It's in the standpoint of it's gonna be kind of

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Speaker 1: wet and soggy and if not raining and a little

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Speaker 1: windy there. So it's gonna be a tough environment for

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Speaker 1: pitching and catching like crazy. But you know, these teams

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Speaker 1: have done things like this in stranger places and more

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Speaker 1: unexpected times. But I think the Giants are gonna struggle

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Speaker 1: running the ball, which shouldn't to say they're gonna not

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Speaker 1: do it, because so much of what ELI does, especially

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Speaker 1: in in the plus territory, is predicated on that play action.

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Speaker 1: At least the safety is respecting it, and that gives

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Speaker 1: them such a great opportunity with not only not only Hicks,

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Speaker 1: but also with Ballard at it tied end. Well, you say,

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Speaker 1: what are you say, Hakim Knicks? And I think a

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Speaker 1: Dwight Hicks the the you know Old nine or safety.

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Speaker 1: But you know a lot of those games that you

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Speaker 1: guys played in the eighties against the Giants, you know,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Perhaps erroneously back then, we're known

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Speaker 1: as a finesse team, an offensive team, which wasn't always accurate.

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Speaker 1: You had some big hitters on defense, your secondary back

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Speaker 1: in those days, Eric Wright, Dwight Hicks, Ronnie Lott, Carlton

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Speaker 1: Williamson was as it as any team in the league's

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Speaker 1: Is it interesting for you now as an alumni or

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Speaker 1: alumnus of the Niners known you were known as part

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Speaker 1: of an offensive team? How the how this team is

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Speaker 1: winning now with running game and defense, it's it's almost

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Speaker 1: the exact opposite of what the eighties were looked at. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just like and just like those teams back then

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Speaker 1: always needed that unbelievable defense to be what they were to,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of set the table for us. Um,

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Speaker 1: this defense now really needs Alex Smith and this this offense.

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Speaker 1: The better they've played, the better that this defense has gotten.

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Speaker 1: And and it's a great complementary sort of package for

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Speaker 1: both teams, you know, because the Giants too, you know,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't wasn't too long ago. During this season, everyone

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Speaker 1: was going crazy about Eli saying, oh, what a great quarterback,

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter touchdowns. Man if he just had a defense,

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Speaker 1: And somehow, some way they got a little healthier and

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Speaker 1: they've caught fire. Randy, What what in the world happened

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Speaker 1: with Alex Smith last week? I mean people came into

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Speaker 1: the division around he was probably one of the one

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Speaker 1: of the lesser quarterbacks, obviously t J. Eights being the

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Speaker 1: lesser of the four quarterbacks playing. But it was like

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana jumped into his body in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: and led them to victory. Where has this been from

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith all season? I mean, this guy who was

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Speaker 1: the number one overall picking in two thousand and five

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Speaker 1: and to this point has been considered a bust. What's

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Speaker 1: changed this year? Uh? From seasons past with Alex Smith? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, you know, it's a matter of having

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Speaker 1: a head coach and being surrounded by people that really

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Speaker 1: from the get go believe in you and show faith

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Speaker 1: in you, and and really have a commitment that you're

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Speaker 1: my guy. And I think that's something that you know,

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Speaker 1: Alex had never really had. Especially a guy like Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: who's got the chop from having played in the league,

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Speaker 1: has the experience as an offensive coach, and for him

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Speaker 1: to give that kind of a commitment to Alex man

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Speaker 1: an awful lot. Plus, I think if you look at

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Speaker 1: their passing game, you know, and and you know, being

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Speaker 1: at this being a fantasy show. Look at the stats,

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Speaker 1: look at their stats from about game ten on, and

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Speaker 1: look how they emphasized. I think you'll find more and more,

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Speaker 1: especially in bigger chunks the passing game, getting crab free

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Speaker 1: involved going back to Vernon davis um. You know, if

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Speaker 1: they get Delaney Walker back, that's a part of their

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Speaker 1: their offense that's so huge and so important to them.

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Speaker 1: I just think this is something they've They've loaded the

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Speaker 1: played up as the season has gone on, as Alex

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Speaker 1: has gotten more and more confident, pure and simple, He's

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Speaker 1: he's turning into the quarterback Jim Harbaugh has told him

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Speaker 1: he's always been. You know, Randy, I'm I'm a history geek.

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Speaker 1: And one thing that I remember from your Niner teams

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Speaker 1: when you face the Giant, I remember Bill Walsh pulling

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Speaker 1: the guard to try and block Taylor coming from the outside,

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Speaker 1: like anything, anything to stop LT And I see similarities

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Speaker 1: in the sense that although the Giants don't have someone

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Speaker 1: like that now, they're getting so much pressure from their

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Speaker 1: front four. If you're the forty Niners offensive line coach

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Speaker 1: or offensive coordinator, what adjustments do you make to handle

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Speaker 1: that because the Giants front four gave the Packers all

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Speaker 1: they could handle last weekend. Yeah they did. And and

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you saw sort of the the

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Speaker 1: formula in a lot of ways of what you don't

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Speaker 1: want to have happened. Because when you've got ends the

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Speaker 1: way the Giants do, and you've got ends that go

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Speaker 1: down into tackle spots that can press the pocket, you've

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Speaker 1: got the perfect storm. And when you've got five coming

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Speaker 1: and you know your face, guys are gonna set sort

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Speaker 1: of the edge in front of the quarterback. The ends

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Speaker 1: are gonna aggravate the guy so where he's gonna need

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Speaker 1: to step up on one of the directions, and then

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Speaker 1: you're bringing a linebacker underneath in that B gap. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's almost undefendable unless you're keeping six seven people

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Speaker 1: in for protection. They can't keep Vernon Davison because he's

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Speaker 1: the best option in the passing game. No, but remember

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Speaker 1: that this is an offense that when you see him

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Speaker 1: on first down Sunday, their first first down, you might

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Speaker 1: see and this is again it's predicated on Delaney Walker.

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Speaker 1: If indeed he can come back from that broken jaw,

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Speaker 1: you'll see him with two tight ends a fullback and

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Speaker 1: a half back, and trying to think back on too

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Speaker 1: how many times you see that formation these days in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But they can split out and they can

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Speaker 1: do different things from a standpoint of protection from that premise,

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Speaker 1: and that makes it harder to deal with because every

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Speaker 1: day in that end getting whacked, and that makes it

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Speaker 1: that that's a big deal. But I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 1: big proponent and a big fan of the garden center

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Speaker 1: the middle of that pocket, set in the edge and

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Speaker 1: and really establishing somewhere of that quarterback to go. And

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Speaker 1: if you think back to how they got after Breeze

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco and how the Giants got after Rogers

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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, that wasn't the case that pocket was

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Speaker 1: collapsing on the quarterback all Raandy. Let's flip over to

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Speaker 1: the a f C. In the championship game between the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots, Tom Brady, I mean

640
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: to me, he's He's maybe the closest thing I've ever

641
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: seen to a Joe Montana in terms of a guy

642
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: who just has that moxie and confidence, especially in the playoffs.

643
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: He just wins football games. The Baltimore Ravens have a

644
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: tough task ahead of them. What did they need to

645
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: do to beat the Patriots in Foxboro? Well, yeah, it's

646
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: it's easy to say, hard to do, but I mean

647
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: that's a team that was six oh and six against

648
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots going into that game two years ago in

649
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: the divisional game. When they came into Foxboro and just

650
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: beat them like they stole something, I mean, physically got

651
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: after him. And and that, to me is that's how

652
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: you beat the past. You you you you got them

653
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: from the inside out offensively, you take away the inside run,

654
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: you take away the step up ability of Tom Brady,

655
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: and you start hitting them at the whistle and you

656
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: stop hitting them at the end of the game. And

657
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: you keep doing that. And when your offense is on

658
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: the field, you've got to have a very consistent passing game.

659
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: You better have some good pass catching tight ends, and

660
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: you better have a lot of patients because you want

661
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: to stay on the field as much as you can.

662
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: And that sort of has been the formula in the past.

663
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: The Jets followed it last year, the Ravens followed it

664
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Speaker 1: two years ago, and you know, I I've got to

665
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: think that's exactly what Bill Parcels and the Patriots are

666
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Speaker 1: game planning against for Sunday. I think I think that's

667
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: a a good reason why the forty would have a

668
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Speaker 1: shot against the Patriots. Is exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: I have to ask you, you know, when you when

670
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Speaker 1: you talk to your ex teammates, when you guys saw

671
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: Jim Harball come in, especially the first half of the season,

672
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: when they're out there running power and a bunch of

673
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: off tackles in the style of football they were playing,

674
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: were you guys scratching your heads a little bit, you know,

675
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: just being the tradition of the forty niners and here's

676
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: this team that's beating you up on defense and running

677
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: power on offense. Did it? Uh? Did surprise you? No?

678
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: Not really. You know, you've got to be who you are,

679
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: and if your talent tells you that's what you should be,

680
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: then that's what you're run and that's what you have

681
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: to take your hat off to what Jim did. Because

682
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: Jim has had a very low risk offense up until

683
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: the last couple of months and a stifling style of defense.

684
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't should be that way instead of trying to

685
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do you're gonna run the spread and

686
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: go back to the you know, a different style of defense,

687
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: or say, hey, look that's just not what I do.

688
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: And that's where I think a lot of coaches get

689
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: in trouble. But then again, a lot of coaches don't

690
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: sort of inherit the talent that I think Jim Harbaugh

691
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: inherited in San Francisco, and he just applied his ability

692
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: to get these guys all on the same page. Randy,

693
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: We've got a game on NFL dot Com, the NFL

694
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 1: Playoff Challenge, where it's sort of a combination of fantasy

695
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: points clearly, but also who's gonna win? And i'd love

696
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: to get your opinion on both of the conference championship

697
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: games this weekend. Who makes it to Super Bowl forty

698
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: six and why? Um. I like the Niners chance at

699
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: home against the Giants. I think it's gonna be a

700
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: last second deal. Um, much like the game against the Saints.

701
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: I believe it goes right down to the bloody end,

702
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: and you know it'll be settled by three or four

703
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: points though somewhere in the twenties, you know, so that

704
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: type of thing, And I think the Niners come out

705
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: on top. And and I believe the Patriots don't have

706
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: an easy time with Baltimore, but at the end of

707
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: the game, they're doing more running, and I believe they

708
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: win a lot more comfortable. They win that game by

709
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: eight to ten points. So it's uh, Niners and Pats

710
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: in Indy, which I think has got enough storylines to

711
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: keep people busy for a couple of weeks. Well, Randy, listen,

712
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you coming on. And uh, are you

713
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a candlestick this weekend? Uh no, I'm not. No,

714
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm actually doing some stuff with Serious around

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: the a f C. Oh great, great, alright, my man. Well,

716
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: hey listen, I appreciate you coming on. H elliot, I

717
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: love having you on. And uh, have a great weekend.

718
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Good luck to your forty Niners and hopefully we'll be

719
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: talking to you soon. I really appreciate any time for you. Michael. Thanks, Randy,

720
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: take care of my friend, Take care Randy Cross CBS

721
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Sports Serious. Uh he also there's a show on serious

722
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: here and uh, great guy, and it's funny. I'll give

723
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: you a little story before we go to break here. Uh,

724
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: everybody knows I'm a Cowboys fan. Okay, and when I

725
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: used to work for CBS. Uh that's how I met Randy.

726
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: And so I lived in Fort Lauderdale area. That's where

727
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: CBS Sports Line was located their headquarters. So when like

728
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Speaker 1: Brent Jones, who was also a good friend of mine,

729
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: would come in into a game, or Randy would come

730
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: into a game for the Dolphins, we'd all we'd hang out,

731
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: you know. So again me being a Cowboys fan, and

732
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: one of the most heartbreaking moments as a sports fan

733
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: in my life was the Catch game and I picked

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00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: up Randy from the hotel. You know, We're gonna out

735
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: to have some dinner, and I had a silver Jeep

736
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: Cherokee with it with one of those mirror Dallas Cowboys

737
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: license plates on the front. And uh so, you know,

738
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Speaker 1: Randy gets into it, gets into my into my car,

739
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: and I says, I says, man, I was like, it's

740
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: gotta feel weird for you getting into a card. It's

741
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: got a Dallas Cowboys license plate on the front of it,

742
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: and you know, I obviously I'm I'm a Cowboys fan.

743
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: I hated the four Day and was back in the day,

744
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: and Randy went on to tell me a story about

745
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: the catch and the play itself, where had he had

746
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 1: actually And if you look at pictures of the catch,

747
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: and some of them you could see Randy getting up

748
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: because he had gotten beaten on the play, and everyone

749
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: remembers ed too tall Jones trying to block Joe Montana's

750
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: path to throwing a pass in the end zone or

751
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: ran he was. It was great because he said, listen,

752
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: I was on my butt and I was getting up,

753
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: and I saw the catch and I had the best

754
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: seat in the house for arguably the most memorable play

755
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Now for Roscoe, for Cowboy fans, but

756
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: that was that was a great story, and Randy's Randy's

757
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: a great guy. That's that's true. We have the picture

758
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: up here in the NFL network off and it always

759
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: hurts my heart to see it. Well, it used to

760
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: be by your desk, by your old and that's not

761
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: a coincidence either. Somebody's got a sense of humor around here.

762
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: But you could see fifty one Randy Cross in the

763
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: distance getting up, and I think that is the most

764
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Speaker 1: famous play in NFL history. We have to take a break,

765
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: will come back the next segment, and we have the

766
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: Fantasy Cantina at one o'clock Pacific, and we're actually gonna

767
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: talk about something that's blowing up on Twitter right now

768
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: about Peyton Manning. Good stuff NFL Fantasy Live back in

769
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: a minute. I know he wants to get back and play.

770
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: And I think you know, we all Satan's a smart guy.

771
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know so, don't don't you know ever

772
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: underestimate Albright. He has a person and you know, I'm

773
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: sure he's heard what every doctor said, and you know,

774
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: every opinion, and he knows what what rip he has

775
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: and what he doesn't have um and he's gonna do

776
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: what's best for he and his wife and kids. I

777
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: know that much. If you like the NFL, you're going

778
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: to like NFL Fantasy Live on Serious x on Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio NFL Fantasy Live series to ten x M

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Speaker 1: E E seven. That was some sound from Serious NFL Radio.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday Cults Center, longtime center, longtime teammate of Peyton Manning's.

782
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday actually himself is a free agent this year

783
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: and that's one of the guys they need to make

784
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: a decision on. But the word is that Peyton Manning's

785
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: gonna retire. Well, well, well did you hit well, hold

786
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: on here, here's what happened, Rob below, Uh you know

787
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: the actor and uh clearly now he wants to be

788
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: Jason Lockham for Adam Schefter and Chris Mortenson. I'll rolled

789
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: into one and Jay Glazer, although there's only one Jake Lazer. Uh,

790
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: tweets out hearing my favor number eighteen Payton Manning will

791
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: not return to NFL. Then he tweets Rich eyes in

792
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: my people are saying Manning will retire today. What do

793
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: you here? Rich doesn't respond um, and then he says, fans, colts, fans,

794
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Speaker 1: Let's hope my info is wrong. Don't like being wrong

795
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: with this time. I'm hoping, and it's on dead Spin.

796
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: Of course who knows, who knows what? I wouldn't be surprised, well,

797
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. Rich can't respond to that, But I

798
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: mean Rob low his you know, the next thing you know, uh,

799
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan is gonna be breaking news on like uh,

800
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, a trade involving you know, the Yankees in

801
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: the Red Sox. I mean, come on, let me just

802
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: throw this out there. Though this is credible to me,

803
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: it is Rob Blow. It is just because you're good

804
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: looking and he's good. Look, No, this is credible to

805
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: me because Roblow, first of all, you you can imagine

806
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: the circles he runs in. Okay, if he's heard it

807
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: from enough people, he probably was legitimately wondering, like, gosh,

808
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: I hope this isn't true. Because he's a Colts fan,

809
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: He's a Manning fan. So for him to tweet that out,

810
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: nothing about that seems salacious in nature to me. It

811
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like to me, he's just trying to I mean,

812
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: Roblow doesn't need the attention, you know, really, yeah, I

813
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: don't know how many movies has been lately, and and

814
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: let me tell you this, Oh, he doesn't need attention.

815
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: You know, athletes admire actors actors and mere athletes and

816
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: a lot of actors have their favorite athlete. And you

817
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: get an actor and I know this because I worked

818
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: in an entertainment for a while. You get an actor

819
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: around if their favorite athlete was Troy Aikman. They are,

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00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: you know, as wide eyed and mouth open as an

821
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: eight year old kid is sometimes. And so to me,

822
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: I think Rob Lowe probably heard this from a few

823
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: people and now he wants to know, and he probably

824
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: heard it from someone who's either friends, would you know someone.

825
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: It could be Jim Mercy, could be whatever they heard,

826
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: a little uh yeah, a little gossip makes sense interesting

827
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Speaker 1: And and guys, this is something that we can talk

828
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Speaker 1: about in the canteena which comes up at the top

829
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: of the hour three two six eight XM fantasy. We

830
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: can talk about Peyton Manning, we talk about running backs,

831
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: we can talk about whatever you like. But this is

832
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna be and we don't know if this is this

833
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: is true, not clearly this is I'm not saying it's

834
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: he's got nerve damage in his net it's death. It's

835
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: definitely something that's very possible because as you mentioned, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's a scary that's a scary injury. I mean Sterling

837
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: Sharp had a neck injury that he ended up having

838
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: to retire early from. And Michael Levin the same thing, right,

839
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Speaker 1: I mean Michael Levin was a little bit worried about

840
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: that when he heard himself in Philadelphia and those dastardly

841
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: fans cheered him. Um, those are actually, those are great.

842
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: Those are scary, scary injuries for a football player, especially

843
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: a football player who's in his mid to late thirties.

844
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: Those are great points. Uh, Sterling Sharp injured himself, I

845
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: believe against the Bucks and ninety four hurt his neck.

846
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: And remember he used to have like he used to

847
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,560
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Speaker 1: Michael Irvan, they found out had a narrow spinal column.

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Speaker 1: And and I think those are great points. Peyton Manning,

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