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Speaker 2: Shuler Matt Williams and kicking off the second hour, more guests,

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Speaker 2: more conversation, and we've got some measurements across the timeline

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Speaker 2: here finally matter. Okay, we've discussed this. It's the weirdest

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Speaker 2: part of this week. It's like a hurry up and wait.

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Speaker 2: We get so late into the process before we get

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Speaker 3: And what's funny is you're doing this at three o'clock Eastern,

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Speaker 3: where this is when everybody's going over to watch the drills.

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Speaker 3: Now finally, like, yes, this place is quiet or calmed

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Speaker 3: gonna start going over. You'll see people starting, you know,

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Speaker 3: like Greg co Selizy's like, as long as i'm over

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Speaker 3: now focusing to on the field athletics stuff. Finally, But

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Speaker 3: we've been here a long time until you get to

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Speaker 3: that point, absolutely three o'clock on Thursdays, when you finally

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've done a lot of radio, h a

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Speaker 2: lot of radios to this point before getting to that stuff.

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Speaker 2: When we got the TVs here on Radio Row with

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Speaker 2: some of the moving and shaking that is happened in

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Speaker 2: or the Lucas Oil Stadium. Part of me we are

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Speaker 2: inside the convention center. Matt hey Man, not to pump

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Speaker 2: your tires, okay, but I enjoy doing radio with you

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Speaker 2: all the time. Well, just doesn't matter the circumstance, we

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Speaker 2: have a great time, but especially at a time like

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Speaker 2: this when I can harken to your scouting background, because

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Speaker 2: everybody's got his everybody's got an opinion on football, but

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Speaker 2: not everybody has lived it in the scouting realm like

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Speaker 2: you have. The story of today, certainly the measurement of

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Speaker 2: Reuben Bain Junior and his arms. We hinted at this

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Speaker 2: a little bit yesterday. He was expected to come in

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Speaker 2: a little shorter than desired, But today the official measurement

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Speaker 2: of just thirty and seven eighth inches for the arm length.

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Speaker 2: That's probably about two or three inches shorter than desired.

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Speaker 2: If he's selected in the first round, that arm length

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Speaker 2: would be the shortest for any edge rusher drafted in

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Speaker 2: the earliest year for which ESPN research has data. Wow

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Speaker 2: on this the shortest thing.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty telling there, that's the first I heard that. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the shortest arm length for a first round edge

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Speaker 2: rusher since two thousand and three is thirty one and

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Speaker 2: three eighths inches, which was Jerome McDougall the Eagles fifteenth

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Speaker 2: overall in two thousand and three, Matt, and I mean

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Speaker 2: I think, at everyone, when you see how long it's been,

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Speaker 2: how rare that is. But what's that mean? What's what's

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Speaker 2: the concern? Why is that such a big deal?

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Speaker 3: ever a thing? You know? Like, there's a spot in

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Speaker 3: And I don't know why?

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Speaker 3: They didn't grow. Somebody measured them wrong, and that never

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Speaker 3: it is interesting to me that he's thirty and seven eighths.

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Speaker 3: Thirty one sounds a lot better than thirty seven. Yes,

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Speaker 3: still unusually short. Another thing that's really important with arm

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Speaker 3: that gap is just in arm length. We both get

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Speaker 2: Well, it's the it's the other side of the Will

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, He's like, I'd go against Richard Seymour and

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Speaker 3: likely it's a bad program. But Michigan was better, you know,

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Speaker 3: that this is a deal breaker. You know. Now at

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Speaker 3: it's a long arm technique where people are watching them

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Speaker 3: be able to tell better. If you're the tackle, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to try to make a tee with my shoulders

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Speaker 3: gonna long arm you. So even if your arms are

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Speaker 2: Chest to hit, yes, and like smaller small.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna get a skinny in the middle

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Speaker 3: of you and try to long arm you with you know,

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Speaker 3: But then everyone knows is coming to you know, like

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no secrets anymore, no right for for reference,

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Speaker 2: Matt so the thirty and seven eighths inches, We've talked

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Speaker 2: a lot about Caleb Banks, the big boy from Florida

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Speaker 2: an over four inch difference. Yeah, that's a that's a

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Speaker 2: that's a substantial amount. That's like half a hand size

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Speaker 3: It means a lot. It means a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: So to put in perspective like this is Will Campbell

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Starks is like thirty seven, you know what

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Speaker 3: his wingspan's even wider, you know, just put it in

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Speaker 2: But then to the Steelers a hall of all.

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Speaker 3: That's why I mentioned because his wingspan is there is massive.

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Speaker 3: Because he's also got the wide shoulders too. Yes, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean for Banks, that's a massive advantage. Being over

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Speaker 3: thirty four is unusually long for a human being.

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Speaker 2: Arm length for Max Stark's thirty five and a half inches.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I actually would have guessed longer, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think it's Max's chest is the size of Rhode Island.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. I put in Max Stark's combined results on

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Speaker 2: Google and it gets everything back. And then according to AI,

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Speaker 2: he was valued for his immense frame and quotes size

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Speaker 3: Max ran a five actually running though, oh yes they are.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to see from here, but I'm just happy

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Speaker 2: Oh I love it. Max ran a five point four

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Speaker 2: to three second forty yard dash, vertical jump of twenty

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Speaker 2: seven and a half inches, broad jump of nine to

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Speaker 2: eight and twenty yard shuttle of four point seven two seconds. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Caleb Banks is about to run now, yeah, yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: To be a common thing. But we talked to so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can't especially if he runs well here.

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Speaker 3: Because his body type is exactly what you're looking.

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Speaker 2: Oh goodness, I've got all the measurements here.

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Speaker 3: Holler into it, man, I love.

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Speaker 2: This, and this time we're gonna see it.

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Speaker 3: He's moving pretty well for such a huge human being.

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Speaker 2: He ran faster than older He ran faster than Max Starks.

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Speaker 2: Oh brother, uh, six foot six and a quarter, as

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Speaker 2: So I would be like a five one zero.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm a little under five eleven, I think, okay,

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Speaker 3: If you're ten and a half, just under five eleven,

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Speaker 2: But right eighty five and three quarters win inch wing.

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Speaker 3: Span for uh for banks, for banks?

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Speaker 3: No, he's making money these last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Good lord man. Uh. Yeah, he he certainly is. And

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Speaker 3: I wonderful running give. I mean you're that big and

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Speaker 2: That checks the box for you and for everything that

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Speaker 3: So I'm almost certain last year, remember Matthew Golden was

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Speaker 2: Was there a nice breeze that came in through.

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Speaker 2: The is the is Lucas Oil Stadium becoming the notoriously

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Speaker 1: This is live cover reach of that twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: Back inside the Convention Center. We've got some forty yard

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Speaker 2: of Texas Tech, another one of these big guys running

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Speaker 3: So it's real good. You'll take that for a nose,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not not as impressive, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good enough, good enough without question. I've

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Speaker 3: There's a lot many fat guys anymore. The usually guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just absolute aliens. Yeah, like apex predators man

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Speaker 3: Different different predators out there, of all shapes and sizes.

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Speaker 2: I thought about jumping in and asking this of Cosel,

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Speaker 2: Pearl Harbor. It's an animal house joke. All right, everybody

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Speaker 2: just settled down. Do you think part of the reason

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Speaker 3: That's another reason. I think it all trends, all things

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Speaker 2: Matt Some wild numbers from a friend of the friend

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just retweeted as Banks thing.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, man like, and this is you know,

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Speaker 3: He is in the excited to talk to Max about him? Absolutely, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Maybe, uh, actually maybe next week on the drive. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be great.

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Speaker 3: I'm strongly considering banks It's twenty one no matter what

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Speaker 3: But when when you're one of these teams with nickel

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Speaker 3: But smooth doing it too. And yeah, I was gonna.

434
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 2: Say, he does not look uh, does not look too

435
00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 2: too belabored for the size of just that massive mountain

436
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 2: that is that wone heard of him. But yeah, Caleb

437
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 2: banks By. According to our buddy Trevor Sikima, he is

438
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: in the ninety eighth percentile of height for defensive tackles

439
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: at the combine you know, by NFL standards, ninety eighth

440
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 2: percentile for height, eighty ninth percentile for weight, ninety fourth

441
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: percentile for hand size, ninety fourth percentile for arm size,

442
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 2: ninety ninth percentile for wingspan, the longest wingspan at the

443
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: combine for a defensive tackle since nineteen ninety nine.

444
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 3: Wow, a long time. It goes a long way.

445
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: Man, I'm starting to think he's not going to be

446
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: there to pick twenty one.

447
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: No, I'm starting to think so too. I mean, there's

448
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 3: this more and more demand for defensive tackles that are

449
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: every down guys, four man fronts, whether their noses or

450
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 3: don't look at it from a three four perspective, just

451
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: they line up inside the tackles somewhere and you move

452
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: them all over and they cause problems. And BOYD, wouldn't

453
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: you like him learning from Cam Hayward.

454
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 2: I would love him learning to Cam Hayward. And I

455
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 2: thought that that was a possibility early in the week.

456
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm starting to less and less, starting to like it

457
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: less and less.

458
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 3: Okay, even Trevor before the workout said, I don't think

459
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: he's gould be there twenty one guys.

460
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: You know, let's play one of your favorite hypothetical games

461
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: to play. Would you trade the Steelers twenty first pick

462
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: overall right now for Caleb Banks.

463
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: I think that answers yes, because there's enough resources I

464
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: can get my other things, and that's a bit of

465
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 3: a luxury item. I mean, like, if they don't add

466
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: a D lineman except for a fifth round pick, a

467
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 3: nose that doesn't run well, I would understand it because

468
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: they'll probably pretty flush everywhere else. So saying yes isn't

469
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 3: as much well, it flat out as being enamored with

470
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,479
Speaker 3: a position. They're a rare player, and I don't think

471
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: there's any rare prospects in this draft. That's why I

472
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: kind of say it too, like who's really rare for

473
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: their position in this particular draft. It's fewer than most drafts.

474
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: But boy, if you were if I were GM, you

475
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: were GM, Omar GM, and you know, Omar might it

476
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 3: really mad at me for doing that, because because it's like, Okay,

477
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 3: now I gotta be perfect, you know, you know, like

478
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: you erased a lot of my room for error of

479
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: all my free agent additions, and I better hit on

480
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: a second round receiver, which is harder than my first

481
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: round receiver. Matt you know. But and then week six,

482
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: when he has two sacks already and Cam Hayward's succession

483
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 3: plan looks like it's in place and nobody's running the

484
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: ball to the middle on you, It's like, eh, maybe

485
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: that's a good move.

486
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: Maybe that was that last idea ever. Matt, We've talked

487
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: a little bit about Peter Woods.

488
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 3: The he should test well.

489
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 2: I think he should test well, but he didn't measure

490
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 2: well today.

491
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 3: Okay, he is more of a penetrator, lighter guy.

492
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 2: Fourth percentile arm length thirty oh, no, thirty one in

493
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: a quarter tenth percentile, wingspan seventy six and three eighths

494
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: for reference, because I know that you weren't the biggest

495
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: fan of his last year Mason Graham thirty two inch arms,

496
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: seventy eight and a half inch wingspan.

497
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 3: So what was a comparison? I forget that Peter Woods

498
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 3: Woods number.

499
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: Thirty one and a quarter to thirty shorter, even sure,

500
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: even a little bit shorter in arm and wingspan than

501
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: Mason Graham.

502
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: I would definitely take door number two as twenty one. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes,

503
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: I mean even if he moved to get a weight

504
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 3: on him, he might be under three hundred ninety eight. Okay, Yeah,

505
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 3: I don't know that that player fits what the Steelers

506
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: want to do.

507
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. Yeah, as as I'm just

508
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: looking again, kind of the like you must this tall

509
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: the ride the Michigan thing if you're under this Mendoza line. Yeah,

510
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pack.

511
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: I know everyone on the planet had a better grade

512
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 3: on Graham than Harmon. I personally didn't. I thought Graham

513
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: was the number four defensive tackle no matter what team

514
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: you're on. I just think he's a very overrated prospect.

515
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 3: But I bet the Steelers are out of rather a

516
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: Harmon than Graham. Yeah, they don't want a two hundred

517
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: and ninety eight pound guy with short arms that lives off,

518
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: you know, winning a first step quickness. You know that

519
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: that's you'll be pretty special to win off first step

520
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: quickness over and over Warren Sap, you know, John Randall,

521
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: heavy dude. Yeah, you know.

522
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: Let's see here a couple other, uh some other notable

523
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: numbers from some notable names that we've discussed plenty this

524
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 2: week and really, uh probably all throughout the month of February.

525
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: Sunny Styles, linebacker from Ohio State.

526
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: I heard his measurements are crazy, but I haven't heard him.

527
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 2: Six five forty four. He's six five six five two

528
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: forty four.

529
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: And he doesn't play high like.

530
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 2: If you're played some safety.

531
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: Last year that's where he started. Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah.

532
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: He did uh ten chand thirty two and seven eighths arm,

533
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: eighty and seven eighths wingspan for a linebacker, ninety seventh

534
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: percentile in height, seventieth percentile in weight for a linebacker,

535
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: and he's very safety.

536
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, I mean the linebacker like

537
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: we were talking with Greg, I mean, the linebackers are

538
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 3: coming in the league so light, and they can all run,

539
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: but they're so light. But this guy can run without

540
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: being two hundred and fifteen pounds, like you know, Lewis's

541
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: from pitt.

542
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: And we actually have uh actually is how now his

543
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: arm measurement coming in slightly less than even Reuben Bain's.

544
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: I knew there was concerns thirty and a quarter where

545
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: Ruby Bain was thirty and seven eighths. That's the shortest

546
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: for any edge rusher at the combine since nineteen ninety nine.

547
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: Ooh see, I said this yesterday and I actually did

548
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: podcast in up in my room when we were done

549
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 3: recording there is and we said, I talked to Rob

550
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 3: about it today in the morning. There it wouldn't be

551
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 3: hard for a lot of these guys that are getting

552
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: mocked sixteen twenty two Banks McCoy, the Tennessee to the

553
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: corner to get up in that top five because these

554
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: quote blue chip or early dudes are not teflon now

555
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 3: you know like that you can find real warts with

556
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: these guys starting with these two arm lengths with how

557
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 3: and Baine. You know there'd becued a lot of these dudes.

558
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 3: None of them are looked like Bous Garrett or you know,

559
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: be true prototypes.

560
00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: It's certainly not.

561
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're they're hold on defensive end one offensive

562
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: tackle one is more tenuous than most years.

563
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: How about r val Reese's measurements here, Matt, I bet

564
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: there are right. You know what's funny though, is they

565
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: are but when you compare him to it depends on

566
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: if you compare him to off ball linebackers or edge rushing.

567
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: He's to be light for an edge rusher, correct, Yeah.

568
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: So I want to get to that with you here

569
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: in a second, six foot four and one eighths inches

570
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: in terms of height.

571
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: So about the same as his teammate styles.

572
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, just a little load off the ball, guys,

573
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit shorter two forty one

574
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: nine and a half hand, thirty two and a half arm,

575
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: seventy nine and a half wingspan.

576
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean he's a little light to be a

577
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 3: true all the time edge player, So people were going

578
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: to are going to run at him with multiple tight

579
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: ends and pulling guards just until he proves otherwise.

580
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: His height for if you compare him to edge rusher measurables, okay, okay,

581
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: and that's where he wants to be. Yeah, where the

582
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: money's at. That's where the.

583
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: Jets's ma trade today, implying that maybe he's their pick.

584
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: Sixty seventh percentile for height, fourth percentile for weight, fourteenth

585
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: for arm length for edge rusher. Yeah that's not great.

586
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: No, it's not great for the second pick in the draft, right,

587
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't a sixteenth pick in the draft,

588
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: or even Parsons was like fourteen or fifteen, but he

589
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: didn't play the year before and it was an awesome draft, man, Like,

590
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: what are these guys do something wrong? But I mean,

591
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: is that the wrong choice for Reese? Because if you're

592
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: an off the ball linebacker. We're talking about him like

593
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 3: we did styles like oh that's awesome.

594
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: You know, yes, I don't know if I'm taking using

595
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: the second pick on a second pick on right. I mean,

596
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: that's what the conversation is for him is we know

597
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna be highly drafted, but the second pick, you

598
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: better be an instant impact edge rusher. If you're going

599
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: at pick two and I don't know, man.

600
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: That's gonna know that I could just make him an

601
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: edge rusher every snap.

602
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you can his rookie year. So he's

603
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: gonna need some time for the body transformation as you

604
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: as you can see here, but thirty two and a

605
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: half arm, it's not short short, but it's not you.

606
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: It ran better this time around. Great shaved about it.

607
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: Is that five five to one eighth.

608
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: I think it's five point five part of me.

609
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: I like like I like Leehunter a lot. He's one

610
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: of those guys that if it is a wide receiver

611
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 2: in the first round, I would be I'd be interested

612
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: in him in the second if he was.

613
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: If he was there and available, the question is would

614
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: you trade up with one of your thirds maybe to

615
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: get like to the fortieth pick maybe because I don't

616
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: know that I'm I mean, I definitely am not trading

617
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: twenty one for him now, but he might be gone

618
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: to in the first round.

619
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: If if it starts to get to that point of

620
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: like the fortieth pick and Caleb Banks is the only

621
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: defensive tackle off the board, I would I'd be interested

622
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: in going and getting one of these guys. And again,

623
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: you've you've got, man, You've got so much, You've got

624
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: so many comp picks, You've got three third round picks, you.

625
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: Can pretty free agents on board.

626
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: By that's a that's a great point. You could pretty

627
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: you could pretty easily, I think, pull the trigger and

628
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: get aggressive and go get one of those guys. Maybe,

629
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: though by this time in a couple days, we're having

630
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: the same thought about some offensive lineman. Oh, I know,

631
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: so this is still so early doors in the process exactly.

632
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: And I think there's gonna be a lot of tackle

633
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: type tackle body types that usually don't get them in

634
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: the twenty. You know, there's a lot of them. There's

635
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: not a great one. It's kind of like the receiver group.

636
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: Let's see, uh more more big men doing the forty

637
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: yard dash. We'll keep an eye on that.

638
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: We'll go over some edge guys will be burners.

639
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: We'll go over some more numbers. Absolutely. Also, Matt sent

640
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: me some interesting Joey Porter junior stuff earlier today that

641
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: we got to uh got to get to here at

642
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: some point.

643
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: As here, Brian McFadden was singing his praises.

644
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: From what I understand, Rob and I had on two

645
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: time Super Bowl champion Brian mcfatten by the way, and

646
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: he was awesome. I mean, he does media for CBS Sports.

647
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good.

648
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: He's good, but man, we talked with him about the

649
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: combine process as a player. We talked with him about

650
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: what it was like to win the Super Bowl as

651
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: a rookie when you have to when you're entire that

652
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, that chaos of Florida State Bowl Game, Senior Ball, combine,

653
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: pro days, draft, rookie minnie camp, training camp never stops.

654
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 2: And he ended up winning a super Bowl his rookie season.

655
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: Him and Heath Miller, you know, both have talked about

656
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: that in the past. We talked to him about Joey

657
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: Porter Junior, We talked him about Mike Tomlin, a whole

658
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: bunch of fun stuff.

659
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to hear that.

660
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll actually maybe we'll run that back sometime

661
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: in the bonus hour here, depending on if we're able

662
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: to nab a special guest or two.

663
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: One just rolled in that I talked to you yesterday.

664
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: Maybe we can grab him at some point.

665
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. We'll see if we can

666
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: make that happen when we return. More conversation as we

667
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Speaker 2: roll along here. Our number two live on Radio Row.

668
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: It is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

669
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: Audio Network.

670
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: This is live cobble reach of that twenty twenty six

671
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: NFL combine on Steelers Nation Radio, part of the Steelers

672
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: Audio Network.

673
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: Back on Radio Row, it is the drive on your

674
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold.

675
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: Just across the street at Lucas Oil Stadium, we finally

676
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: have live action. We got forty yard dashes being run

677
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: by the big men. It's just kind of started. I mean,

678
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: there's gonna be stuff going on for the next.

679
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: Night, for the few hours and the next few hours. Yeah,

680
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

681
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: I meant to meant to ask you you have been

682
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, you've obviously been been doing combines and coverage

683
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: and stuff. For a while. Uh, you started here on

684
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: SNR a few years before I did. Were you ever

685
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: set up inside Lucas Oil or have you always been

686
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: here in the Convention Center always here, because I know

687
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: the first couple of years that we did SNR stuff,

688
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: we were actually in that. That was when it was

689
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: still just like six teams. Yeah, it was nothing like this, yes,

690
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: because I remember they all talking about that. I remember

691
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: Jerry talking.

692
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: Well, they don't want to hear us, right obviously. But

693
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: I thought there might have been like another room that

694
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: was in the stadium, but like out front, you know,

695
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: like the lobby of the stadium.

696
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: Almost like the concourse, like the Trium area.

697
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: That might have been where we started. I'm not sure. Yeah,

698
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: that's a great question.

699
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: Because I I just I remember Dale and Jerry talking

700
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: about how easy it was to, you know, like talk

701
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: about this stuff while you're you know, sitting sitting right

702
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: there in the lobby and it's everywhere in front of you.

703
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: I mean, they definitely don't want like radio noise or

704
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: US yapping. I mean it's it's remarkably quiet.

705
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: It really is, which is which is kind of the

706
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: opposite of what these guys are used to that's right.

707
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: You just stadiums you packed and screaming and you.

708
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: Know, music bumping during warm up all that stuff. Do

709
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: you watch Caleb Banks move there?

710
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: No, I didn't. I was just staring off into the distance. Okay,

711
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: I will watch all these when I get back. That's

712
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: what's crazy to me is I watched the Combine after

713
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: I leave the Combine again.

714
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a weird conundrum of like, we

715
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: get here early in the week, the stuff doesn't start

716
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: until right before we're about to leave. We watch more

717
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: of it when we get home than we do while

718
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: we're actually here. It's a it's an interesting beast.

719
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: But I do like getting the numbers and I ride home,

720
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: one of you guys will be on your phone. I'm sure,

721
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: oh you ran this, You ran that? You know?

722
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: Yep? Oh absolutely absolutely, you know. That's where we're keeping

723
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: tabs on it. And then obviously Matt and I will

724
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: be back in our usual kind of time slot on

725
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Monday to continue too.

726
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

727
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Right, to break it all down.

728
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: We have a normal week of the drive next week

729
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: five days normal, yeah, I believe so yeah, and then

730
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: free agencies like they.

731
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: Then that, you know, not next week but the week

732
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 2: after will be a massive week with all the free

733
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: agency stuff, and it'll start Monday with the negotiation period,

734
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: the legal tampering period.

735
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 3: And Tuesday, I think the league year starts at four

736
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: o'clock right when we go.

737
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: On Tuesday or Wednesday, one of the one of the two.

738
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: You think it's Tuesday. I think Monday is illegal tampering

739
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: for twenty four hours. So we're on the air those

740
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: couple of days. There will be signings left.

741
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: And right, and a lot of reports of this. You know,

742
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: they've agreed to this and that, and and they's so

743
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: shooting from it, really is. And then we'll have another

744
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: week after that and then we'll be off to the

745
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: owners meetings and in Phoenix, Arizona. At least it sounds

746
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: like I I believe that is the plan for us

747
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: to go.

748
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, Matt, I'm a little three or four

749
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: in a row now.

750
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: That's I think the only because again I'm about to

751
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: enter my ninth year. Once this league calendar flips over,

752
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: I'll be in my ninth year with the Steelers at SNR,

753
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: which is which is wild. The one thing that I

754
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: have not done is is go to the owner's meetings.

755
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: It's a much different vibe because there's the people. There's

756
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: no coaches other than that head guys.

757
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: I guess it is technically called the league meetings.

758
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: It is the league meetings.

759
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: It's like one of those. It's not the legal tampering period,

760
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: it's negotiating period.

761
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: So a lot of the teams will send like their

762
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: top guy in charge of business stuff like whoever is

763
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: in charge of all the important things not football ticket

764
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: sales CFO or all that stuff too, you know, So

765
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: there might be a head coach and a GM. Obviously,

766
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: there's ownership and their families and wives and kids, and

767
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: it's at a wonderful place that we don't stay at,

768
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 3: but we visit, you know, and there's a great owner's

769
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: party which is unbelievably cool. So it's a it's a

770
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: neat environment. You do, hear a lot.

771
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 2: So we stay at a different location.

772
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: Than the the owners. Yes, yes we do. We stayed

773
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: a nice place. They stay atlone in the nicest places

774
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: in the world.

775
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's fine, but we broadcast as long as

776
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: we're not at the shanty motel down the street.

777
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: No, we said, I mean every time I've gone you

778
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: stayed a nice hotel, and then you do the shows

779
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: from the hotel, which.

780
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: Is like like a resort.

781
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: Probably it's uncomfortable, you know, like it's too nice, and

782
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: usually they like set you up outside, like last year

783
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: they put tents for us, so it's on the premises.

784
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: But don't get too intermingled with the clientele here, you know.

785
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: I have been to a couple of those, those bougie

786
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: those the nicest hotels in the work, those hoity toy Yes,

787
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: and you're right, I almost feel uncomfortable with my skin

788
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: just being there.

789
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, it's it's eye opening though, it's but the

790
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: parties from there, which is cool.

791
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: I've heard that the dinner is very enjoyable.

792
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like the party. I went up and

793
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: got a drink and looked at my left and there

794
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: was Venus and Serena. You were you know right, It's like, oh, okay,

795
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: sorry anyway.

796
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: And so have you done I'm assuming you've done owners

797
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: meetings both because they alternate between Phoenix and Orlando. Have

798
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: you done both?

799
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: Yes, But for whatever reason, the last two years went

800
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: back to back Florida. So it's Arizona this year. I

801
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: think my first year was Arizona. My second and third

802
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: were both in Florida.

803
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: Did they do it too too, I don't know. Every year,

804
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: I think I would.

805
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: Always used to be every other one, and for whatever

806
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: reason they went back to back Florida. So interesting. Yeah, No,

807
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: it's a good time and you do learn a lot.

808
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it's definitely worth being there from a content

809
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: perspective too, because there's a breakfast. There's an AFC breakfast

810
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: where all sixteen head coaches are there, where there's sixteen

811
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 3: huge round tables, and there's the Titans, there's a Patriots,

812
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: the Broncos, and anyone can just sit and hover and

813
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: ask them. It's not just the local media. And then

814
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: the next day is the NFC one. So I mean

815
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: there's a lot of that kind of stuff and new

816
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: rules get written, and I mean it's it's not as

817
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: populated as this. It's a much different feel.

818
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, there's not the kind of open invitation that

819
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: there is for a lot of the elements of this.

820
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: The funny story was we were like the last radio

821
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 3: network set up the one year I think it was

822
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: two years ago, and you know a lot of the

823
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 3: owners I think were on their way out and travel

824
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: day and it was just Dale and I sitting there

825
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: and Coach Harbaugh with his wife walked by, where is

826
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 3: Ravens gear? Ravens gear? And he kind of gave us

827
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: a look something like go. He yelled like go Ravens

828
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: in the background or something, which obviously got caught by

829
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: the microphone. I'm like, hey, you want to come and

830
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: sit down and join us? He's like all right, And

831
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: then we kind of panicked, and I'm like, we want

832
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: to have an extra headset. I'm like, I think there's

833
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 3: any way who's gonna say yes, right, might can get

834
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: in trouble. I don't bringing the Ravens head coach on

835
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: Seladation radio. I'm like, thanks, coach, would never watch Day

836
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: and I both like you said, yes, what are we

837
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: gonna do? Have a third headset? I'm like, sit down

838
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: you to him, He's like, I don't know if I

839
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 3: would talk to him. We want Today's radio. He's like, sure,

840
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: I'll droid you.

841
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Maybe now we'll bring him on because he's not a

842
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: raven Giants head coach. Pretty cool.

843
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, he was great about it.

844
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: I mean he was, yeah, Coach, remember a couple years

845
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: ago when you said you'd come on with us now

846
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: that you're not with the ravens, can we can we

847
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: run that membor of can we get you got? You

848
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: got ten minutes a time for us here to talk

849
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: about some.

850
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: Of this, so we really think of the ravens.

851
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that that that will be uh, that will

852
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: be fun. And hey, I hear there are worse places

853
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: to spend the end of winter time than Arizona, you know,

854
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: late March when that.

855
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: Wherever it is, it's gonna be a nice place when you're.

856
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: Still when you're still kind of shaking off the final

857
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: final weeks of uh of winter. Did you see where

858
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: we're supposed to get snow? Sunday night in Pittsburgh again,

859
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: Sunday night, Unday.

860
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: Okay, no, I've not paid attention.

861
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: If you have punks of Tawny Phil's contact information, let

862
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: me get it because I want to punch him square

863
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: in the face.

864
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: All his fault.

865
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: Oh, it's all his fault. Matt Williamson, Let's take a

866
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: look at some more of these Caleb Banks. By the way,

867
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: thirty two inch vertical jump.

868
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: That's really good for someone that size.

869
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: Good lord man, that's very very I'm starting to think

870
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: that that is that's off the table. Anthony Hill junior,

871
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: Okay Texas linebacker.

872
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: He could be the fourth linebacker taken six.

873
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: To two, two hundred and thirty eight pounds, nine and

874
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 2: five eighths hands, thirty two and three eighths arms, seventy

875
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: nine inch wing span.

876
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: All these soft linebackers have heightened length.

877
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: They really did.

878
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. The Allen from Georgia will as well, and the C. J.

879
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: Allen. Yeah, six foot and six eighths.

880
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: So three quarters yes.

881
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: Six foot and three quarters so a little not six

882
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: six yes, yeah, six o six two hundred and thirty pounds,

883
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: ten and an eighth inchance, thirty one and a half inch.

884
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: Arms, big hands, big hands, yeah.

885
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: Seventy five and a half inch wingspan.

886
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: Okay, No, he's checking the boxes too.

887
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: Oh let's see here. Uh are Mason Thomas six' two

888
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: in a quarter two forty? ONE i, SAY i think

889
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna be light eight for an edge, rusher eight

890
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: and seven eighth. Hands.

891
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: Ooh some of these hedge rushers are not having good.

892
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: Days they're Not the measurements aren't, great and that's another

893
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: one of those things that matters. TOO i, mean you

894
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: gotta get your bear paws on these. Guys, yes it's

895
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: like the quarterback, conversation is it?

896
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: Is?

897
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: It does that automatically mean that you can't? Play, No

898
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: but that's that's not great.

899
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: EITHER i almost look like tires on a race, car you,

900
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: know because that's always gonna be touching the. Other big,

901
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 3: feet big, hands you, know like the things that are

902
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: touching stuff at all. Times IF i can have a

903
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: lot more surface area than, you it's a big.

904
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: HELP a key messidor the Edge rusher two From miami

905
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: Behind Ruben bain six three two fifty nine ten inch,

906
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: hands thirty two and a quarter, arms seventy eighth and

907
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: three quarters.

908
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 3: WINGSPAN i think he's happy with, That, yeah, yeah, yeah,

909
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean does that put him over his? Teammates

910
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 3: the thing with him is the. Age, yeah all these

911
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: guys have a. Flag they all have ad.

912
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: They really they really.

913
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Do.

914
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

915
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: Uh David, bailey ed rusher out Of Texas. Tech six

916
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: three and a half, okay part of me six three

917
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: and five eighths so a little over six three and a,

918
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 2: half two fifty one ten in a quarter, hands thirty

919
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: three and three quarters. Arms you'll take. That, yeah six

920
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: seven to nine and three quarters.

921
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: Wingspan, okay NOW i think he's happy with that being.

922
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: Over he was over two, fifty like two fifty one

923
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: or something like fifty. One, yeah there were some talk

924
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 3: that he might be that he may have so everyone

925
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: knows this by, NOW i. Hope but there are tricks,

926
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: too you, know like there's magic. Numbers these guys want

927
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: to get. Over like there was a lot of talk

928
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: That bailey played in the two forties a low two,

929
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: forties and maybe he wants to and maybe that's where he's.

930
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: Best but when he comes, here he wants to be

931
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 3: two fifty plus two fifty one might be not an accident.

932
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: Like Peter woods being under three hundred is around a

933
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: sudden because you, know he wanted to be over three

934
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: bills at.

935
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: This bayle's baby chugging water like crazy before or, whatever you.

936
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: Know and then then they don't run because they're a

937
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: little heavier than they might like to be, sure then

938
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: he trims off ten pounds and goes pro day and he.

939
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: Runs you know that means the older stricken the. Book,

940
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: yeah but, right everybody knows what you're up.

941
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: To but and that's why in some of those instances

942
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: that that kind of thresholder of the number that you

943
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: want to. See if you See Peter woods at two

944
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: ninety eight, here you're, like what's this? Real playing?

945
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: Weight, yeah you, know Like dale And, pursued and those

946
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: guys have told me this. Labs James ferrier is a great

947
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: player for The, steelers. Right it was like the fifth

948
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: or sixth pick in the draft by The. JETS i

949
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 3: think his combine he was like two forty forty two

950
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: something like. THAT i don't think he. Ran he did

951
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: that trick, too but he really had a hard time

952
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 3: keeping weight. On from what these guys have told, me

953
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: that by like week, eleven week, twelve he'd be playing

954
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: at like two. Ten oh, yeah you, know like just

955
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 3: holding on for dear, life trying to hold you know

956
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: WHAT i. Mean it's a long season and he's worn.

957
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: Out it's a long. Season it's tough to keep on.

958
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: Weight and then you're playing great no matter.

959
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: What, sure, right, sure, YEAH i know when you're when

960
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: you're as active as those guys. Are for some of,

961
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: them it sounds, funny but it can be tough to

962
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: maintain your.

963
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: Weight it's true For O lineman, too you, know like

964
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: you see The fanicas of the world turned into two

965
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: forty two, fifty you, know like some of their bodies

966
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: really want to be too sixty two seven. E but

967
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: LIKE i have to be three hundred, pounds you, KNOW

968
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: i mean eight stakes a day just to stay over

969
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: three hund.

970
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: POUNDS i don't Think Casey hanton And Max starks had.

971
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeh some guys have the Op most guys are the opps.

972
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: When they were ordering a hundred wings in The Strip

973
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: district at their favorite at their favorite. SPOT i don't

974
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: think it's because they needed to put on weight right

975
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 2: two hours in the. Books but we have the bonus

976
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: hour on the other, Side we're going to continue with

977
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: some of these. Numbers we're gonna talk a. Little Joey

978
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: Porter junior might have a special guest for you as.

979
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: Well before we get up out of. Here our final

980
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: hour of coverage for the. Day when we Return West,

981
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: Shuoler Matt, williamson it Is Steelers Nation radio on The

982
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,040
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983
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: Network