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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: April twenty six, forty eight hours to the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: The news is fast and furious. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys loved or just liked Monday's podcast with Austin

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Speaker 1: from PFF. I'll say this. You know, we post it

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Speaker 1: after we record it within three hours. And I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say we're moving markets here, but Trayvon Walker

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Speaker 1: became the new favorite in the desert to be the

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Speaker 1: number one pick overall. That's just to me, just stunning.

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Speaker 1: But if you listen to the pod with Austin, you

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Speaker 1: know that he makes a good case that, yeah, Walker

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Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be, but he could be. Like it's just

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Speaker 1: a weird. NFL draft is becoming so strange. It's less

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Speaker 1: about production. It's more about like measurables in which you

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Speaker 1: can be. And I've always said this, like it's not

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Speaker 1: about what you are now, it's about what you can be.

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Speaker 1: And that's like the huge NBA discussion that's so difficult

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Speaker 1: And the answer was like a solid, you know, twelve

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Speaker 1: look at the NFL with this and it's like wow,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Trayvon Walker was never one of the best

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Speaker 1: players on the Georgia defense and he's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Just staggering stuff. But the NFL

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Speaker 1: for a couple of hours at least, we'll have to

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Speaker 1: take a back seat to what went down in the

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Speaker 1: NBA on Monday night. Just a gutless performance from the

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets getting swept in their own building by the

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics, swept out of the playoffs. I know what

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Speaker 1: people are saying, Hey, man, Hey, Jake Kolbe and Shack

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Speaker 1: La probably got swept in the finals by the Warriors

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Speaker 1: in his career. And it's like, guys, guys, guys, guys,

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Speaker 1: none of this is the same as to what just

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Speaker 1: happened to Kevin durand Kyrie Irving. Okay, they were favorites

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Speaker 1: replaced James Arden with an empty suit. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: how fitting is it that Ben Simmons was not even

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Speaker 1: on the bench for Game four. He knew what was up.

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Speaker 1: He knew it was a rap um. And we'll get

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Speaker 1: to what was said in the post game, which is

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Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. Kyrie Irving just going off the reservation as

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Speaker 1: much of the season to win the championship and I

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Speaker 1: gets swept in the first round. This's just humiliating for

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. A lot of people were upset that I

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Speaker 1: said he ruined the trajectory of his career. I had

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Speaker 1: a a pro trainer d m me on Instagram saying,

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Speaker 1: come on, Jay, he's already top ten. All the hoopers know.

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Speaker 1: And I said, okay, who's the rest of your top ten?

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Speaker 1: And the guy basically was like, well, you know I'm

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Speaker 1: you can't say he is top ten. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: You got to continue to ascend. The reason I put

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Speaker 1: Nobody does that, nobody, And for Lebron to do it,

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Speaker 1: I think that elevated him. Now, does Lebron get dinged

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Speaker 1: and I'll take I should take that back. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: have much left to prove except for one thing. Didn't

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Speaker 1: This is These are led real quotes. I had to

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Speaker 1: for the transcript and it came out. Kyrie Irving. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I was letting the team down when I

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Speaker 1: Where is the self awareness? Bro? We were saying this

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Speaker 1: for months. I mean, you're you're saying that now after

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I wasn't there for you four months ago

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Speaker 1: Really you're gonna do that ship now? You'll play that

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Speaker 1: are you doing? It gets worse? Are you ready? They

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Speaker 1: of course the reporters. So Kyrie, what's up? You have

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Speaker 1: a player option and you're gonna resign with the Nets?

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Speaker 1: said this in Boston and then turned tail and left.

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Speaker 1: This is I swear to you guys. This is a

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Speaker 1: real quote from Kyrie Irving when I say I'm here

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Speaker 1: with keV Durant. Obviously, I think that really entails us

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and Kyrie came to Brooklyn together. Katie followed Kyrie.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie after three empty seasons, no championships, no trips to

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Speaker 1: Quit quit on them. I'm not getting the vacs. Quit

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving thinks he's now managing the franchise, making decisions.

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Speaker 1: He this is the most delusional and least self aware

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Speaker 1: who's gonna say some asinine ship like that after you

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Speaker 1: What do we do now he's saying this, Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna help manage the franchise. Rob I'm at a

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Speaker 1: loss for words. I swear to you. If the NETS

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Speaker 1: feel would what would you do with Kyrie? And I

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Speaker 1: And I would tell Kevin Durant, Hey, Kevin, if you've

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Speaker 1: I understand that. I don't want to say that like

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Speaker 1: and say, where are you gonna go? What are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do? We gotta do things my way. We tried

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Speaker 1: things your way. It didn't work. We couldn't get out

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Speaker 1: he just leaning into whatever Kyrie says. Rob Is this

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Speaker 1: being too harsh? I mean, I'm outraged. If I'm a

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Speaker 1: Nets fan right now, I'm just beside myself. We were

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Speaker 1: I don't know I'm out on Kyrie, but you already

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Speaker 1: knew that, Rob Jason. We've had this pod for what

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Speaker 1: two and a half years something something like that. That

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Speaker 1: may have been the single worst day you've ever had

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Speaker 1: in your life. Oh wow, Okay, Now I agree with

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durants linked up for another I think four years

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Speaker 1: I don't trust Kyrie. I'm not offering him. What what

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Speaker 1: I'll okay. So, if you're the Brooklyn Nets, you really

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Speaker 1: I'll probably when there's many playoff games is in that

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Speaker 1: too soon? But look, man, I understand exactly what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: When you sacrifice so many assets to get this one guy,

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Speaker 1: if you don't do everything in your power to keep

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Speaker 1: beyond a sunk cost because you you you know, you

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Speaker 1: gave up everything in the future. Why would you compound

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Speaker 1: it by give up everything that you have in the

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Speaker 1: present as well? But what do I have in the

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Speaker 1: present that the question, rob, what do you have when

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Speaker 1: complaining who Let's be honest, he was not a great

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Speaker 1: damn quarter in the entire series. So what exactly do

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Speaker 1: a bunch of TV games. If Kevin Durant is not

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Speaker 1: that's the guy ultimately that you have to keep happy.

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Speaker 1: There is no scenario from everything that we've heard him

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Speaker 1: wants to break up with Kyrie Irving, that he wants

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Speaker 1: even if he did, who are you gonna get for

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Speaker 1: I believe you might have said the Warriors looked like

423
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Speaker 1: the best team. That was because Jordan Pool was you know,

424
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: what is it they that they pool party and then

425
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: all the party. He did not show up at all

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Speaker 1: in Game four. But you know that that's to be

427
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Speaker 1: expected for the guy who who's having his quote unquote

428
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Speaker 1: breakout season. He's not gonna have every game. It's gonna

429
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Speaker 1: be a great game. Um. You know, Luca is fantastic,

430
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Speaker 1: and and that was It's not frustrating for me. You know,

431
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Speaker 1: they don't really have that much emotionally invested into it.

432
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Speaker 1: But I didn't think that Dallas would be able to

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Speaker 1: win this series because I didn't think that Luca don

434
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Speaker 1: Che was either gonna if he was gonna if he

435
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Speaker 1: was gonna come back in the series. I didn't think

436
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Speaker 1: he was gonna be effective because you can't rush a

437
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Speaker 1: calf injury, calf, hamstring or two of those things, especially

438
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Speaker 1: in basketball players. As much explosion as you have to do,

439
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Speaker 1: change of direction, things like that, If you're limited with

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Speaker 1: those things, it's hard to be effective. I forgot though that.

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Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't at the front forefront of my

442
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Speaker 1: mind that Luca Donte has never been explosive. He's never

443
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Speaker 1: been a super athletic guy. So he's moving at about

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Speaker 1: the same speed that he's always moved at, you know

445
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Speaker 1: where he looks like he's going half to three quarters

446
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: speed of everybody else, but he's getting to all his spots.

447
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: He's so skilled he can put it up from anywhere.

448
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: He can pass it, you know, as well as anyone

449
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Speaker 1: in the NBA for a forward um with Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: out of the mix, uh, you know, Lebron not making it.

451
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Speaker 1: I think the NBA kind of needs Steph Curry to

452
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Speaker 1: to to be successful here in the TV's portion. But

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Speaker 1: for basketball fans, I can't think of a better story

454
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Speaker 1: than Luca don Chich making a run to the NBA Championship. Yeah. Now,

455
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Speaker 1: now people cannot say he's never been out of the

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Speaker 1: first round. By the way, Luca thirty three, thirteen five,

457
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Speaker 1: several really impressive highlights and nearly got injured trying to

458
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Speaker 1: dunk on Hassan Whiteside. They ejected Whiteside for it. I

459
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Speaker 1: do want to quickly add Donovan Mitchell. I bet on

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Speaker 1: his over three pointers made. It was like two and

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Speaker 1: a half. I was like, oh, come on, Mitchell was

462
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Speaker 1: gonna be Jack in ten threes blowout. He goes over

463
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Speaker 1: seven from deep rob Donovan Mitchell in thirty two minutes

464
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Speaker 1: was a minus thirty eight cheese and then he pulled

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Speaker 1: up with a hamstring late. I thought it was like

466
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Speaker 1: he was embarrassed by how bad he was playing, don't

467
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Speaker 1: I thought Donovan Mitchell was like a major superstar. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't even know. He's not. He's nowhere near

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker right, No, and he he is low key.

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Speaker 1: You know. I know that James Harden is taking a

471
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: lot of slander Kyrie Irving as well, and for good reason.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been having a good playoff at all. Either

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Speaker 1: he's shooting thirty nine percent from the field, um heading

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Speaker 1: into you know what was a game five? Yeah, and

475
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: that's only gonna go down, you know once. That's this

476
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Speaker 1: updated here on ESPN early this morning. But people see

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Speaker 1: the thirty points a game and I think he's having

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Speaker 1: a great series, and it's like, no, he's just because

479
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Speaker 1: he's shooting the ball six times a night. Like he

480
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: he hasn't been good at all. And that team is

481
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Speaker 1: destined to be blown up this offseason. And I'm concerned

482
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Speaker 1: that if and when they do blow things up, they're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna want to trade Gobert and keep Donovan Mitchell.

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Speaker 1: But has Donovan show really shown you that he can

485
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Speaker 1: be capable of being the best gund of championship team?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't know what you could

487
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: do around him because he's a guy who needs the ball, right.

488
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: It's weird with the shooting guard. The only close fac

489
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Speaker 1: simile is, oh, we could try to do what Devin

490
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Booker did right. Devin Booker was a really good shooting guard.

491
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: He just needed a great wing defender. They get bridges

492
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Speaker 1: and then he needed a point guard to set the

493
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Speaker 1: table and that's Chris Paul and the need a system.

494
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: So all they need right now is a great point guard.

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00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: I don't think Conny is a guy. I like the

496
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: Conley pick up. It just hasn't panned out. He's a

497
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Speaker 1: little too old. Chris Paul laughs at being too old,

498
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Speaker 1: But um, I don't know, Robb. It it just it

499
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: does not look good in Utah. Fox Sports Radio has

500
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Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all

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Speaker 1: to listen live. Let's quickly pivot to tonight's games Memphis

504
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: Minnesota for the right to get destroyed by the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: It's a big one. It's in Memphis. Any lean on

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Speaker 1: the game? Uh, Memphis is the favorite obviously. Oh you

507
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: know what, This might be the most confusing series of

508
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Speaker 1: the bunch because neither one of these teams has shown

509
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: to be consistent at all. You know, there, jekylin hide

510
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: game to game, have to half quarter to quarter. The

511
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Speaker 1: only reason why I'm picking it the way I'm picking

512
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: is because they're at home. Give me the Grizzlies. I

513
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Speaker 1: don't think they're going to cover the six point spread

514
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Speaker 1: that I see here in front of me. I think

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Speaker 1: Minnesota covers that. But I like the Grizzlies to win

516
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: the game and go three too. It was seven bet

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Speaker 1: down to six, Miami's seven point favorites better to seven

518
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Speaker 1: and a half. I think they could bludge in Atlanta

519
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: even without Lowry, although just Trey Young go down slick

520
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: and he's quietly had a week series. Um, I kind

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Speaker 1: of am with you. I think Memphis wins. I just

522
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can trust either of those teams.

523
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: It's like you just have zero faith that either of

524
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: them can close out like a huge lead. I was

525
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: looking at some of the numbers. Rob staged, this is crazy.

526
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: In that game three loss, member, it was the anniversary

527
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: dinner night. I watched the game on my phone, and

528
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: you're not on social media as much, so you don't

529
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Speaker 1: get to see everything in that game. Apparently, the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Timberwolves led by twenty six in the first half, twenty

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Speaker 1: five in the second half, and that was like and

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Speaker 1: then they cut it to seven and then back up

533
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Speaker 1: to and then lost the game. Like, how can you

534
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Speaker 1: trust a team that does that? So I'm probably gonna

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Speaker 1: avoid that one and then of course the Pelicans and Phoenix.

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00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: It's stuck on six and a half. And I don't

537
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Speaker 1: know how you don't go with the Pells here. I

538
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: know that's a little reactionary. I'm just not liking the

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00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: vibes from Phoenix. I don't think the Pelicans uh can

540
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: can do everything they did in game five really get

541
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: under the skin. But this is just not a great matchup. Man.

542
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Your guy, Brandon Ingram, former Laker, is planned so good,

543
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: like who mcal bridge is supposed to be a stopper.

544
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: You can't stop you can't come close to stopping Ingram. Yeah,

545
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: if there was ever a you know, an advertisement for

546
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: why mcaal Bridges did not win Defensive Player of the

547
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Speaker 1: Years with branding or doing to him, they have zero

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Speaker 1: answer now and now, unlike you, I still think is

549
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: gonna win the series. But there's no way at all

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Speaker 1: I would pick Phoenix to cover any kind of spread

551
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: over three or four points at all NBA Playoffs getting

552
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Speaker 1: spicy NFL. I wanted to talk to Rob about this

553
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: rumor because it involves the Raiders. According to some Green

554
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: Bay Packers website, now it's something called Cheesehead TV. So

555
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: reading that what you will, but it sounded credible. So

556
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Speaker 1: apparently in that Raiders Packers trade for Davante Adams, the

557
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Speaker 1: Raiders or the Packers had said, we want Darren Waller

558
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: in the deal, so it would have been Darren Waller

559
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: first and a second and that makes way more sense

560
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Speaker 1: than just Hall of Famer Davante Adams for a first

561
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Speaker 1: in the second round pick, neither of which we're top ten,

562
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, why didn't they get more? Apparently

563
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: Waller was supposed to be in the deal, but at

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Speaker 1: the last minute the Raiders found out they could not

565
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Speaker 1: do the deal because Waller is an unsigned free age

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Speaker 1: something some weird quirk. And according to this website chess

567
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Speaker 1: Head TV, the deal still could go could happen after

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Speaker 1: the fact, Rob, where are you on this kind of

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Speaker 1: a mess of a story that's not gonna happen? I mean,

570
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Speaker 1: it's fun to talk about, you know, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Darren Waller is fantastic. I think that if

572
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Speaker 1: he were with the quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, he would

573
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Speaker 1: be putting up Travis Kelsey level numbers, Like he's that talented.

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00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: He's amazing. Um, Like I told you before we started recording.

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Speaker 1: Nothing against Aaron Neagler, who was the guy who who

576
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: broke that story. I think he's pretty reputable. He's credible. Yeah,

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00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: it's just she's head TV. I'm sorry for listen. I

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Speaker 1: had a website called the Big Lead. If somebody podcast,

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00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is what I called the Big Lead,

580
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: I shouldn't diminish apologize. My only pushback on that is

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Speaker 1: nothing like I said, nothing against Aaron Negler. Who's who's

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Speaker 1: reputable is you don't have a story that big with

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Speaker 1: the you know, Darren Waller, who's a Pro Bowl level

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Speaker 1: player involved in a trade involving the best receiver in football,

585
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Davante Adams, and you're the only guy

586
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: reporting it. Raps she would have been on it. Schefter

587
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: would have been on it, Morson pick your favorite guy

588
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: would have had something along those lines. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that Negler is the only one who has it makes

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00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: me think it's not that legitimate. Yeah, I mean, one

591
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: of the reasons to love the Raiders is because they

592
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Speaker 1: have Waller, third and renfro and Davante Adams, Like, I

593
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: don't know how you cover that. We've talked a lot

594
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: about like great trios and um, you know, Tyreek Hill

595
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey like Adams and Waller is not that

596
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: far behind. And when you toss in third and Renfro,

597
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: you're looking at honestly, this is you find me a

598
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: top three unit with two wide receivers in the tight

599
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: end better than them? Like forty Niners have debo and

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00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Kittle debo for now? Uh, Tyreek Hill is gone, So

601
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: what do you have like Tyreek Hill and Mike Gasecki

602
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: and Jalen Waddle, Like, come on, I don't know it.

603
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's number one Rob. It could it could be

604
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: if the Raiders, Uh, nobody right at home about um,

605
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: and then none of the receivers can only candle Davante Adams.

606
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 1: But you know what, the Raiders gonna come down. They

607
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: need offensive line and it's unfortunately they don't have a

608
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: pick in the first two rounds because of that trade

609
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: because their offensive line was below average last season. I

610
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: don't know if they just think new coaching is gonna

611
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: help the young guys do better, but they didn't add

612
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Speaker 1: anybody in the off season that's worth writing home about.

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00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: So if their offensive line can hold up, I expect

614
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: that trio to put up big numbers, not even county.

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs in the backfield. Josh Jickens is a very

616
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: good running back guy. I know what people are yelling

617
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: right now, Gronk, Godwin and Evans. That's probably gotta be one, right, Well,

618
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: Godwin's hurt. That the only reason why Gronk even back officially,

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Speaker 1: or no, he's not, by just waiting because otherwise it

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Speaker 1: would be then yet But you know, god Win a

621
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Speaker 1: c L injury and Gronk not officially back. So yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: that's a long one for Tuesday. Um, we'll be back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with more fun fire talk to you then,