1 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Welcome in to Jagxam. 2 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm Pinani Steavens. The twenty twenty three NFL season officially over. 3 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: Now with the Super Bowl has taken place, jag Xam 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: is back once a week. We're gonna discuss the Super Bowl, 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: and now we're gonna talk about the Daguars off season 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: and what they need to get done. Brian and John 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: are with me here, and let's get to our big things. 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: Our first big thing today is gonna be an uphill 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: climb after watching the Super Bowl, seeing those two franchises 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: battle it out and what was a great game, but 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: also two franchises that have been there before and continue 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: to have success. Brian, when you watch that game, that 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: kind of felt like the gap was widening, Right, You're 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: seeing what's gonna take to get there, and that's a lot. 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: Well, the thing that stood out to me Kai was 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: the quarterback, right, I mean, that was a great quarterback 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: and a promising young quarterback in Rock Party. 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: It's really good this year. 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: Four thousand yards, thirty one touchdowns, his passer rating was 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirteen. He was really good, and he 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: gave his team the lead in overtime in the Super Bowl. 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Really impressed with Broughd Purty all season long. But didn't 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: you just know that if you put the ball back 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 3: in Pat Mahomes' hands, he was going to make the plays. 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 5: And he did. 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: And Juwan Taylor is his right tackle, right and Juwan 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: was one of the most penalized guys all season long. 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 4: It didn't matter. 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: Eight for eight on the final drive, and with the 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: time ticking down and the Super Bowl on the line, 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: he calmly just underhanded the pass out there to McCole 32 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: Hardeman and they won. This game is about the quarterback. 33 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: It's never been more apparent. And it sets up to me, 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: John that this team has to do whatever it takes 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 3: to build the wall to get the guy ready to go, 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: but to make sure that Trevor Lawrence has what it 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: takes to reach his potential. 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, what we saw on Sunday was the two teams 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 6: that have dominated their conferences for the last five or 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 6: six years. Mary Niners are almost a dynasty in the NFC. 41 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 6: They haven't won the Super Bowl, so it sounds for 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 6: dates to say that the Chiefs. I guess they're a dynasty. Yes, 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes is the best. It's hard to beat them, 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 6: but Let's not panic if you're the Jaguars and say 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 6: there's no way you can get there. They were close 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 6: a couple of years ago. You can get there, but 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 6: you must get things right around Trevor Lawrence and you 48 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 6: must get him closer to being gad that you trust 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 6: the way you get the way you trust Mahomes late, 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 6: can you ever get there? 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. 52 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Mahomes is in all the timer certainly is Let's go 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: to our second big thing, which is gonna. 54 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: Be decisions decisions. 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Now let's be off seas when Draguars have a lot 56 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: of decisions they need to make, specifically in free agency 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: as Josh Allen's gonna be up and of course Calvin Ridley. 58 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: And it feels like you should make those decisions pretty easily, 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 2: but getting things actually done will be interesting. 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: John, Can they bring both of them back? 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: Like Josh has to be top priority, but he hasn't 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: sign up contract. 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 6: Cat Well, you can bring both of them back. I 64 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 6: assume that they want to. I know they want Josh back. 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 6: I don't have as great a feel for Calvin. I 66 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 6: would want Calvin back because I wonder where you get 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 6: a thousand yards and eight touchdowns? I don't think you 68 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 6: cannot tag them both. I'd be surprised if they get 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 6: long term deals done with them both later. I don't 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 6: have a great vibe for this one. I think there's 71 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 6: a good chance they can get a deal with Josh 72 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 6: Dunn if they want to right before the deadline, and 73 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 6: then turn around and tag Calvin fast. 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 5: But times of the essence, they can get a deal done. 75 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: You know where they are with the cap right now. 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: They make a couple of easy decisions, right you know, 77 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: Brandon Sheriff moves on, Maybe a couple of hard decisions 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: to them. Maybe Cam Robinson doesn't come back, and that 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: puts money in your pocket. If they want, they can 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 3: get to a point where they're sixty sixty five million. 81 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: Dollars in cap room. And it's not all gonna be easy. 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: You know, you got to take a hard look at 83 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: Foyer Lucon and his contract which is almost twenty three 84 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: million dollars next year. But if they want to they can, 85 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: And look the way the salary cap is used by teams, 86 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: they will take a small cap figure in twenty twenty 87 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: four and push money into twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, 88 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: when the salary cap is gonna take a major jump 89 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: forward and up with the infusion of the new television money. 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: The new television money from a few years ago. Kay 91 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: hasn't even hit the cap yet. It does next year, 92 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: so they can do it. But they're gonna have to 93 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: do something that this general manager has been loath to do. 94 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: They're gonna start pushing money out into the future. He 95 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: probably will stand in front of a room and tell 96 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 3: you how they're one of the few teams that has 97 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: money pushed down. But when you have a franchise quarterback 98 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: and they do, you're gonna have to play that game. 99 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: They can make these decisions and they can. 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: Get everything done, but they're gonna have to play the 101 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: game a little bit. 102 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: Differently than they have. 103 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: We'll see how that plays out, of course, and now 104 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: the draft is around the corner as well. Our final 105 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: big thing is the road to the draft, because now 106 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: the Super bowls behind us two weeks and will be 107 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: at the combine looking at potential draft picks for this team. 108 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: Of course, they're picking lower than they normally do last year. 109 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have less picks than last year, 110 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: that's for sure. But Brian, where's the focus. 111 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: Need to be for them offensive line. 112 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: You're gonna get tired of me saying this, but I 113 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: watched the NFC Championship game and watch the way that 114 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 3: Detroit's offensive line really controlled that San Francisco defensive front, 115 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: the one that gave all sorts of problems to Patrick 116 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: Mahomes on a Sunday during the Super Bowl. That's a 117 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: great offensive line and it helps a quarterback in Jared Goff, 118 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: who's a very good quarterback, but not in the elite 119 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: quarterback play at a much higher level. They were able 120 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: to run the ball, protect the quarterback. And we saw 121 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: the Lions all season long. They were an explosive offense. 122 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: This team must build an offensive line in front of 123 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 3: their quarterback like that. And this is a great draft, John. 124 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: There are probably nine offensive tackles who will have top 125 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: forty grades, and there are a couple of other positions 126 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: on the offensive line that will be available. This is 127 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: a perfect year for them to go all in on 128 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: building the offensive line to help Trevor get where he 129 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: needs to be. 130 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 5: Yet, I wouldn't mind that a bit. 131 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 6: First round and second round in the offensive line, even 132 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 6: on the interior, makes sense to me. It'll be obviously 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 6: you need to know what they're going to do in 134 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 6: free agency before you know they're going to do that. 135 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 6: I don't know that they'll actually go that hard toward 136 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 6: the offensive line, because you can talk about it for 137 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 6: the draft and you sometimes don't. I think they could 138 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 6: go corner as well on the offense in the first round, 139 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 6: and I still wonder if at some point they don't 140 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 6: address trying to get stouter and more disruptive on the 141 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 6: defensive interior. 142 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: Okay, and I could see that, But here's the deal. 143 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: If you keep Calvin Ridley, you don't have a second 144 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: round pick, and can you get to the third round 145 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: before you find an offensive lineman in a draft where 146 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: you need a tackle? I say you need a tackle 147 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: because I don't think Cam Robinson's a guy that's coming back, 148 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: and I don't me I didn't see Walker Little as 149 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 3: that long term solution, at least not the way that 150 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: he played this season. So I don't know if you 151 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: can get to the third round if you keep Calvin 152 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: and not have addressed the offensive line. 153 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 154 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 6: I don't know if you can either. But I know 155 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 6: from experience that you talk, talk, talk before the draft, 156 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 6: and then sometimes guys come up that gets you off 157 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 6: your plan, and you know, you just never know. 158 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: Gotta play to the board, as they always say, Stay 159 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: with us here, we're gonna hear from Trent Balky what 160 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: he had to say after the season. Coming up right 161 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: after the break here on jags Am, Move. 162 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: The Freight, Move the Freight. 163 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: Magellan Transport voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You 164 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: can apply on line at www dot Magellan Logistics dot com. 165 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jags Am. 166 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: We were on a little bit of a break there, 167 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: but now that the Super Bowl is behind us, we're 168 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: in the off season mode. So we're back and we're 169 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: gonna talk a little bit about that off season. We 170 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: did hear from GM Trent Balky. It took a couple 171 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: of weeks. We didn't hear from him right after the 172 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: end of the season. I think they waited until they 173 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: had made a decision about their defensive coordinator. But we 174 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: did hear from Trent Balk and we talked a little 175 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: bit about making that decision about who they were going 176 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: to bring in at DC after they decided to make 177 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: some of those coaching changes, and he did say that 178 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: when it comes down to it, they discuss that, but 179 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: the decision comes down to Doug. 180 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 7: Coach owns the staff just like they do in most 181 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 7: places and no different here, and I respect the decisions 182 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 7: that he makes. I mean, we collaborate, we work together, 183 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 7: I said in on all the interviews, we shared our thoughts, 184 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 7: but at the end of the day, coach owns it 185 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 7: and I respect those decisions. 186 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: Brian, there are some reports that you know this pick 187 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: at DC Ryan Nielsen was Trent Balky's decision and not Doug's. 188 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: But they're saying it can't be that because Doug's picking 189 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: on his staff is according to Trent, it can't be. 190 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: I mean, look, general managers often have a strong indication 191 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: of who would fit and guys they know around the league. 192 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: But in the end, the general manager's not sitting in 193 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: their game planning meetings and the general managers not on 194 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: the sideline interacting with the coaching staff on so it 195 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: has to be the coach. You can't have a dysfunctional 196 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: coaching staff because the general manager got his guy and 197 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: the head coach didn't get his guy. You just can't 198 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: convince me that Doug didn't sign off on this one 199 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: from top to bottom. 200 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 6: So yeah, my understanding was it was Doug's call. 201 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 5: As Brian said, it has to be Doug's call. 202 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 6: If it's not, I can't imagine it not blowing up 203 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 6: within a year. So Doug's call, and it's Ryan Nielsen. 204 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 6: And everything you hear about him is that he's a 205 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 6: very good coach, high energy, aggressive. I guess I'm still 206 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 6: waiting for the first defensive coordinator. He's not aggressive. 207 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 3: Right, and it doesn't bring it on every play. I've 208 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: only heard good things about him as well. 209 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 1: Good. 210 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: We also heard from Trent obviously a lot of questions 211 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: about how things ended last season with that slide and 212 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: missing the playoffs from the team, and Trent Balgy really 213 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: said they need to focus in on being tougher, and 214 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: that starts in the trenches when you can't. 215 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 7: Run the football, and later in the year you can't 216 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 7: stop the run. That's a problem International Football League. We've 217 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 7: always prided ourselves on being able to do that. Run 218 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 7: the football, stop the run, and for whatever reason, we 219 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 7: weren't able to do that. I think there's a little 220 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 7: there's a lot of moving parts to that. I don't 221 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 7: think it's just player related. I don't think it's just 222 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 7: scheme related. We've got to get bigger. We've got to 223 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 7: get stronger, We've got to get more physical in the trenches, 224 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 7: and if you want to compete for championships, you have 225 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 7: to do that. So I think we've got some good 226 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 7: pieces in there. We've got some good young players in there, 227 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 7: but we got to get better. 228 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: John, no breaking news there. You gotta be physical if 229 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: you want to win football games. How does this team 230 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: go about doing that? 231 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: Though? 232 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 5: Well? 233 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 6: To me, this was the key takeaway of his press conference, 234 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 6: and I thought it absolutely hit the nail on the head. 235 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 6: At the end of last season, or really all of 236 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: last season, they couldn't run when they needed to run, 237 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 6: and at the end, at the end of the season, strangely, 238 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, they couldn't stop the run. It 239 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 6: may be a passing league, but if you can't do 240 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 6: those things, you can't pass effectively. When it's time, how 241 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 6: do you do it? 242 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 5: Well? 243 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 6: I think they'll be better against the run because I've 244 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 6: got to think Devon Hamilton's better next year, and night 245 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 6: is fault the back issue, et cetera. They've got a 246 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 6: piece there. I would still like to see a mad 247 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 6: another piece in the medal. I don't know if they will. 248 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 5: You draft and you get more brawler on the interior. 249 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 6: Remember when Doug won the Super Bowl in Philadelphia, they 250 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 6: were because of the offensive scheme, they're always going to 251 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 6: be passed first. 252 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: That team could maul too. 253 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 6: You've got to be able to get a yard when 254 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 6: you need a yard, and this team couldn't do. 255 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: It last year. 256 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: It's just, you know, just throwing fuel on my fire 257 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 3: about the offensive line. I mean, the offensive center on 258 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 3: the most important play of the entire season was on 259 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: his back at the feet of the quarterback and prevented 260 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: the quarterback from reaching the ball into the end zone. 261 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: You got to get stronger there. I mean, look, if. 262 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: Ezra Cleveland is a guy that you believe is going 263 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: to be your left guard, and that's the word, right, 264 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: and Cooper Hodges is the guy they have a lot 265 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: of belief in. 266 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: They got to see it because he didn't play well. 267 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 4: Then what's the spot. It's the center. 268 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: And when you look at Creed Humphrey in the way 269 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: that Kansas City can control the center of the line. 270 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: And I don't know that Aaron Banks is a star center, 271 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 3: but he was a really good center on one of 272 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: the best rushing teams in the last couple of years. 273 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: You've got to be better at center. I almost stood 274 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: up and cheered when he said we got to be tougher. Yes, 275 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: that was what was missing last year. And the tempo 276 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: comes from the offensive line. You look at at Jason 277 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: Kelcey right, Look at the way he took his shirt 278 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 3: off at the game in Buffalo and was drinking beer. 279 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: Hey, he's a madman. 280 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: I want a mad man in the middle of my 281 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 3: offensive line, somebody who sets the tempo for it all 282 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: because if this team could convert on third down in short, 283 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: Trevor would be able to pull off play action, you'd 284 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: be able to take the downfield shots. It's all there 285 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: in the middle of the offensive line, and that has 286 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: to be fixed. 287 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 5: It's so much an eye test thing. I know. There 288 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 5: was a time late. 289 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 6: In the season we setting each other next to each 290 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 6: other in the press box. I think you said to 291 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 6: me or I said to you. On a third and one, boy, 292 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 6: it seems like a long yard I mean that seems 293 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 6: like a long yardage to wait, long yardage played for 294 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 6: this team last year. That's just how it felt. It 295 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 6: can't feel that way moving forward. 296 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: Definitely something that needs to change. Another thing We've talked 297 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: a lot about this free agency. Josh Allen had a 298 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: career year last year. He's gonna want big money this year. Now, 299 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 2: this is from try a couple of weeks ago, so 300 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: some time has passed since then, but at this point 301 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: he hadn't talked to Josh Allen about the contract extension 302 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: this year. 303 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: Is what he had to say. 304 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 7: I know Josh wants to be here. I know we 305 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 7: want him here, you know, can we come to a 306 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: number that works for everybody? That's the key and I 307 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 7: respect that. It's like I said last year with Evans situation, 308 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 7: you got to respect these guys that put themselves in 309 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 7: this position. They work hard, they deserve to make good money. 310 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 7: What that good means to them is could be different 311 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 7: than what it means to us. So we just got 312 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 7: to come together, sit down at the table and work 313 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 7: things out. 314 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: John. 315 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure the team wants Josh here. Josh wants to 316 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: be here, but as we know these when you talk money, 317 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: things can always get sticky. Is it worse if this 318 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: goes on longer? Well, we hope to see something soon. 319 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 6: Book Trent got a lot of flak publicly, Oh why 320 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 6: isn't you talk to him. I'm assuming by now the 321 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 6: sides have talked. The reality with deals like this, everything 322 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 6: happens at the deadline anyway, So just because they hadn't 323 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 6: talked at the time doesn't mean that they won't talk 324 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 6: in those last two days. I can't tell you the 325 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 6: number of contract situations like that I've covered around his newspaper. 326 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: Guy that I followed. 327 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 6: I was here where you think nothing's happened, nothing's happening, 328 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, in the last day 329 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 6: and a half, there's faxes back and forth. Remember facts 330 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: is but that, and all of a sudden, the deal 331 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 6: gets done. He'll be here in some capacity, whether it's 332 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 6: on the tag or long term. 333 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: I would like to see it long term. I don't 334 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 5: know how. 335 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 6: I don't know how the sides feel about getting that 336 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 6: number done to make that happen, because I'm not involved 337 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 6: in conversations. But I think Josh is a low risk 338 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 6: long term signing because I think his floor is very 339 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 6: high and he doesn't get sacks. He's a very good player. 340 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 6: You're always gonna get production and value. I'd like to 341 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 6: see it, but I don't know what's gonna happen. 342 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: You know, if I was Trend's publicists, before he would 343 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: have gone out there, I would have said, look, there's 344 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: only one answer to this. We want him here, we're 345 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: working on a plan, and we will get it done. 346 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: That's it. Because when he left. 347 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: It open like we haven't talked yet, there's too much 348 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: information and everyone wants a piece of trip right now, 349 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: right And so he didn't do himself favors by giving 350 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: that honest answer. He probably just should have said, we 351 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: want him here, we're working on our plan. 352 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: We got to get it done. 353 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: And the truth is, John, and you know this is 354 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: that there are a couple of complicating factors. 355 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 4: One is the quarterback. Two is the wide receiver. 356 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: You have to figure out a way to work all 357 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: of these contracts together. 358 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: It's not just oh yeah, we're gonna pay them. 359 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: They're gonna pay them, but they have to set up 360 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: a contract that is something that they can manage with 361 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: all these other players that they've got to get signed 362 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: and guys that they might want to bring in in 363 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: free agency. It's a complex time of year to fit 364 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: all of those pieces together. 365 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: And they have twenty seven days. What's the rush. 366 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: Twenty seven days is when the new league year opens 367 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: on March eleventh. There's no reason to rush it. Get 368 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: the right deal done. You guys have negotiated houses and 369 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: cars and all. 370 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: Of those things. 371 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: It comes at the moment that you have to sign 372 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: the contract. They'll get something done. 373 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 5: We are faxes, faxes back and forth. 374 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, carry your pigeon. 375 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: I remember the fashion machine with a little tube and 376 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: you put it in. That's spun it before it came 377 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: back that the eighties. 378 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: Yeah year old. My dad used to sell them, so 379 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 4: I'd sell them. 380 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, all right, coming up, we've talked a lot 381 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: about our free agents. We're going to talk about some 382 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: other free agents that might be available. 383 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: Some names. 384 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: We're looking at someone we'd like to see come to Jacksonville. 385 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: So stay with us here we'll go over those names. 386 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: After the Brank. 387 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: Joined the Jaguars five K Stadium Challenge presented by Novo 388 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: Nordisk on Saturday, February twenty fourth, right here at EverBank Stadium. 389 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: You can register at Jaguars dot com slash five k. 390 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: John, you give me run the five k. 391 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: Uh Probably not. 392 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: I could a slow walk a slaunter, I. 393 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: Could jog it, but me jogging it is a little 394 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 5: bit like a. 395 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: Walking okay, just a fast walk, maybe power walk. 396 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 5: It's right, okays, right. 397 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: We've been talking about the free agents. 398 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: Obviously, Calvin Ridley, Josh Allen, big free agent names that 399 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: they need to deal with in house. But there's gonna 400 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: be other players that are available as well, and each 401 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: of us have picked a person that we're hoping at least, 402 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: you know, maybe they can. 403 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: Get in the building. 404 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: Talk to who's someone you would like to see added 405 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: to this team? Brian, where are you looking? I know 406 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: you are always about the offenation. 407 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: Well yeah, well no, I'm all about the offensive line 408 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: this year. We shouldn't put the stars here, right, I 409 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 3: mean yeah, absolutely. The money is no object, and I'm 410 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: going to spend shod CON's money here. I want Robert Hunt, 411 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 3: the big offensive guard for the Miami Dolphins. Really a 412 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: broad shouldered guy, long arms, big hands, and is a 413 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: guy that can settle in in pass protection, but he's 414 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: a mauler in the run game. And I would love 415 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: to see a big guy like that come in and 416 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: compete on either side, right with Cooper Hodges, with Ezra Cleveland, 417 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: to be able to give them the attitude they need 418 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 3: in the offensive line right. If you are going to 419 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: fix this, it has to be you're not going to 420 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 3: keep us from getting three yards when we need to. 421 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 6: And it was a surprise when he didn't get They 422 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 6: signed long term another offensive line and didn't resign him, 423 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 6: which is sort of surprising. So I liked this idea too. 424 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 6: You'd already picked him, so I didn't go that way. 425 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: My choice was actually t. 426 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 6: Higgins, but I don't think he's gonna be available, so 427 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 6: I think that precluded a lot of us picking certain 428 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 6: guys because I think Higgins can get a franchised he 429 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 6: would be the ideal to me had played with Trevor. 430 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 6: If he's out there, he might be a break the 431 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 6: bank guy. Instead, I went with Justin Mattobique. 432 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 433 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 6: I get that defensive tackle for the Ravens. He's probably 434 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 6: pie in the sky too, to be honest with you, 435 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 6: but he's you know, he's a defensive tackle who can 436 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 6: disrupt in the run and get penetration and get sacks. 437 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 5: They need that. I think, even though they. 438 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 6: Have players who are already there on the defensive line, 439 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 6: you can sign guys and rotate, so you don't necessarily 440 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 6: have a. 441 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: Starter in your spots. I would love this guy. I 442 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: don't think he's. 443 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: Gonna be available. 444 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: There's a defensive tackle from Illinois and a defensive tackle 445 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: from Texas who I've been told is this guy right 446 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: lower center of gravity, exceptionally quick, that can chase and 447 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: pursue in pass rush. So maybe you take the offensive 448 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: guard in free agency and you spend the defensive tackle 449 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 3: is your choice. They're at seventeen if that's where you 450 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: stick in the draft. 451 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: But you can. 452 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: He's a great player, and there are a couple of 453 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: guys in the draft that resemble. 454 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 6: That they just so much needed. This goes back to 455 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 6: Trent's comments in the pressor they felt like they didn't 456 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 6: dictate on the two fronts last year so much, and 457 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 6: that they were, you know, trying to get around that, 458 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 6: trying to hope and figure out a way to win 459 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 6: even though they weren't very good there. 460 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: You know, it's a game of big, bad, mean people 461 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 5: who enforce their will. They didn't do that enough. 462 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: I think all of our picks I picked a raven 463 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: as well. We're all picking teams that are going to 464 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: have trouble signing all of these players because they have 465 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: good teams. But they also have many of them available. 466 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: So I went with Patrick Queen because for me, and 467 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: this is not a knock on Foya Lucan, but he's 468 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: on the last year of his deal. He's very expensive 469 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: as well. Patrick Queen's young, He's played on a team 470 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: and this is a big thing I've been harping on 471 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 2: with you guys. Playing on a team that has established 472 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: success and you know what that standard is. Playing on 473 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: a Baltimore team where they know what they need to 474 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: do every single day to kind of meet that standard, 475 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: specifically on the defensive side of the football, that's someone 476 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: you need, and specifically at a linebacker position where you're communicating. 477 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: You know, we saw more than a few breakdowns between 478 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: the secondary and the front the line on the defensive 479 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: side of the football. I feel like having a young, 480 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: younger player, talented and someone that knows what the standard 481 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: of a good defensive football team is could be huge 482 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: for this team. And again not a knock on anybody here, 483 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: but just to have that longer term and have someone 484 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: a point person that can direct kind of the quarterback, 485 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: if you will, on the defensive side of the football 486 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: can be huge and it would be really helpful. 487 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: I'd really like to talk to the defensive coordinators find 488 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: out what he's looking for in the linebacker, right, I mean, 489 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: Queen is the guy who can do it all, So 490 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: who wouldn't want him? 491 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 4: I mean he runs and chases. 492 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 3: If he's a guy who can play in coverage and 493 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: even rush the pass, or he's a really complete linebacker, yeah, 494 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 3: I'll take him. 495 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, this would be some of these we're talking about, 496 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: and I think Queen fits into this category. Would be 497 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 6: a major change because you've you would be by definition, 498 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 6: replacing high profile players and going in a new direction 499 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 6: making contract sacrifices. So I don't know if realistic they'd 500 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 6: be ready to do that, but he'd be an upgrade. 501 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: You mentioned that the Ravens of the Dolphins, these are 502 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: teams that are going to have trouble signing all their players. 503 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: I mean the Jaguars are going to reach that point 504 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: here pretty quickly too. 505 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: Sure, I just have to decide who it's going to 506 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: be that sticks around for a little bit longer. 507 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: Stay with us here. 508 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: We're gonna look ahead to this offseason, what we've got 509 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: coming up after the break. 510 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 8: Hi, what I was talking about as my dog, as 511 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 8: my doll, man made me proud. 512 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: Liked up there the Pro Bowl games, Evan Ingram starring 513 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: the flag football there, Josh Allen's doing a little bit, 514 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: and then our long snapper Ross Mattisick as well, our 515 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: our only all pro as well, So Ross does have 516 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: the bragging rights from last season. We're gonna get to 517 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: a couple of fanatic fan questions. We have talked about 518 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: some of this, but we'll go over it again. Of course, 519 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: fanatics has all the jag styles. You can check out 520 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: fanatics dot Com officially licensed everything, so we'll check that 521 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: out for sure. One of our fan questions is in 522 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: regards to Josh Allen and Calvin Ridley, can you keep 523 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: vote those guys? 524 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: John, We talked talked. 525 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: A little bit about this, but monetarily is that something 526 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: that they can do with the kind of signed Josh 527 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: franchise tag? 528 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: Would that be the way to go with it? 529 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 6: Well, you can, And there's a little bit of a 530 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 6: misconception that you can't sign these guys because there's no 531 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 6: room in the cap right now. Usually when you sign guys, 532 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 6: their cap number comes down from what it's projected in 533 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 6: your one in year one and maybe even year two, 534 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 6: it's just a matter of you can do anything you 535 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 6: want with the cap. The best analogy that I've heard 536 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 6: is you can do anything in the short term, but 537 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: you're also putting money on the credit card, and eventually 538 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 6: you got to pay the credit card back. 539 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 5: So yes, they can do they want to do that. 540 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 6: In terms of mortgaging the future, I don't know they 541 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 6: answer to that question, but they could conceivably do that 542 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: and re sign Trevor Lawrence to a long term deal 543 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 6: because those initial cap numbers are going to be small. 544 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 6: It's just a matter of how much do they love 545 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 6: these guys in twenty twenty six to be paying for 546 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 6: them still. 547 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: You know, I lived through the cap nearly imploding in 548 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: two thousand and two. Here if the Texans hadn't taken 549 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: Tony Boscelli in the expansion draft, Oh, the Jaguars couldn't 550 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: get under the cap, and the league didn't want to 551 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: see that problem. So since then, I've been very conservative 552 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: about making sure that you're always protecting the future. 553 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: The hell with it, Let's go right. There's so much. 554 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: Money coming into this game now, and it's being driven 555 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: by some outside forces that are just pumping even more 556 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 3: money into this Let's be creative. 557 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: Let's go find a way to get him done. You 558 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 4: can get it done right. 559 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: You may have to franchise it, but ideally you'd like 560 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: to get both of them done to deals so that 561 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: you don't have to mess with the franchise tag. And 562 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 3: you've got that in your back pocket somewhere else. It 563 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: just means you've got to be clever, you've got to 564 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: be aggressive, and you got to get a lot of 565 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: work done in the next twenty. 566 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 2: Seven days talking money still, is Trevor Lawrence someone that 567 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: you look at an extension for this offseason or do 568 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: we kick the can down to next season? 569 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: Oh? I think you try to get something done by 570 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: the start of this season. 571 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: But he may not want to because he doesn't have 572 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 3: all the leverage based on this last year. 573 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 5: I think that's the tricky part. 574 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 6: Yes, you'd like to if you do it this year 575 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 6: and demand on the other side, and I have no 576 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 6: idea what Tervor I mean. 577 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 5: I see when Trevor on't because they all want a lot. 578 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 6: But if you do it this year, it's it's a 579 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 6: hard sell right now to put him above Borough Allan Mahomes. 580 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 6: At the same time, from his point of view, that's 581 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 6: what franchise quarterbacks go for. So I've been asked this 582 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 6: a lot in the last month. I admit I kind 583 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 6: of waffle on it. Yeah, they want to get it done. 584 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 6: Somebody said, well, dude, incentives, you're not going to get 585 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 6: a super a super good, team friendly deal. 586 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: It's just not how it works from a quarterback. 587 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 6: So they really have to decide do we believe that 588 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 6: this guy is going to ascend to that level. 589 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: I'm not smart enough to the answer, Brian. 590 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know he's going to get fifty six to 591 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: fifty seven million, because that's the next contract that comes in. 592 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: If I were him again, I would think about, let's 593 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: find a way to get let me prove to you 594 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 3: in September that I am what I am, and then 595 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: we'll get a deal done. 596 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 6: And I think that I'm sorry. The team can say 597 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 6: we love you, man, but we can't quite go to 598 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 6: fifty five right now. And he was okay before he 599 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 6: got hurt, but he didn't get to that level to 600 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 6: earn that fifty five. 601 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 5: Not that he won't. It doesn't mean we're insulting you. 602 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that both sides I think could probably 603 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 6: say to each other, Yeah, we kind of get. 604 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: It, but his agent is not going to want to 605 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 3: come in below the previous contract. That's not good for them. 606 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 6: Both sides can be right and not find a deal, 607 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 6: which is why if he comes out on fire in September, 608 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 6: the Jaguars can jump and go, hey, here's what we 609 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 6: were thinking about. 610 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: You can get this deal done or wait till next year. 611 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 5: The beauty of it. 612 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 3: Is is that you have this is his fourth season 613 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: and you have the fifth year option. You don't want 614 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: to get there because this is a guy that you love, 615 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: you want to love, but you got it, so you 616 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: don't have to panic. 617 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: We'll have to see. 618 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: That's definitely one of the big questions for the off 619 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: season and the off season coming up. We've got the 620 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: Combine in a couple of weeks, will be focused in 621 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: on the draft, and Jagsam will be back every week 622 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: here on Tuesday to talk you through all of it. 623 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: So thank you for joining us and joy the off season. 624 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.