1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: What first attracted me to this beautiful girl just twenty 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: five years old, Stephanie Pars. It's her big smile. I 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: looked at all of her pictures and she has this 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: picture perfect smile. And then on top of her photo, 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: I kept seeing it said, gorgeous makeup artist twenty five 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: vanishes after a seance. And I've never heard such a 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: thing before. But when I hear the heartbreak and her parents' voices, 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: all I want to do is help find Stephanie. Crime 9 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Paris lived in the house right 10 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: behind me. Her car is still in the driveway. Her 11 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: parents came over to this home and they found her 12 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: cell phone inside the living room. Now they're trying to 13 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: hold out hope that she is still alive and know 14 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: that we will do everything we post we can to 15 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: get you old. Her disappearance is a mystery. Stephanie Pars 16 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: was last seen around ten o'clock last Wednesday night, after 17 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: she spent a night out with family to see a 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: well known psychic in New Brunswick. The family came home 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: together and Stephanie added to the home she lives in 20 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: that was once owned by her maternal grandmother Stephanie's mother 21 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: and father have been waiting to hear from her after 22 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: she went missing without a trace. And we will see 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: you soon and we'd love you so much. Think about 24 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: what Daddy taught you to what I told you to do. 25 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: The weight is an emotional roller coaster, you know how you, 26 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: her parents said. The twenty five year old who loves 27 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: art is a very independent person. Stephanie is also petit 28 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: in size, standing four ft eleven inches and weighing one 29 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen pounds. You are hearing our friend Anthony 30 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Johnson at maybe seven in New York. How many times 31 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: have I heard that voice? I Meanancy Grace, this is 32 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. With me 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: two very special guests, Stephanie's mother and father, Charlene and 34 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: Edward pars also with me an all star panel. California prosecutor, 35 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: author of Red Flags, Wendy Patrick with us. Jeff Curtesi, 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: former FBI special agent at Jeff Kurtesi dot com. Renowned 37 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrists joining me out of the Florida jurisdiction, doctor 38 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Bober but right now to investigate. A reporter with 39 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Radar Online dot Com Alexis z Alexis. I'd want to 40 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: hear from the parents, but for our listeners, please tell 41 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: me about the disappearance of Stephanie. Stephanie just twenty five 42 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: years old and had gone with her mom and some 43 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: other family members, not to a fance. She went to 44 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: see a media speak. This is an event. This is 45 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: a woman who would read people in the audience. She's, 46 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, a really neat fun event, a family event. 47 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: So she goes on Wednesday night and she goes home. 48 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: She talks to her mom, she kisses her to night, 49 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: she says goodbye. She goes to her house, as you said, 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: this was her maternal grandmother's house, and she sends a 51 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: snapchat photo on the way home, cute picture of herself. 52 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: Gets home, nobody hears from her, but ten thirty at night, 53 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: she probably gets gone to bed. They can't find her. 54 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: They go over the next morning to the house because 55 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: no one has heard from her. She is not there. 56 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: They look for all of her things. They find the 57 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: cell phone, the one thing that he would keep with 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: you at all times, the thing that could help them 59 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: find their daughter, and it is in the sofa of 60 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: the house. Hold on Alexa Teresa joining me investigative reporter 61 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: writer online dot Com, also with Me Edward and Charlene Pars. 62 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: This is Stephanie's mom and dad and they are begging 63 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: for your help. Miss Pars. Thank you for being with us. 64 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: When alexas Uress, Chuck says the phone her cell phone 65 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: was in the sofa, what do you mean by that? 66 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: It was actually on the side of the couch that 67 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: we found it. When I was at the house looking 68 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: for her, I rang her phone and that's where her 69 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: sister found it, on the side of the couch, on 70 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: the floor or on a table or where on the 71 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: floor there was a bunch of blankets and stuff. I 72 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: don't know whether it just sell off the arm of 73 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: the chair, but we had to move some stuff to 74 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: get to it too. Jeff courtesy former FBI special agent Jeff. 75 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: That actually tells me a lot well. I also want 76 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: to know how it was positioned, But it seems that 77 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: she had come in and at least sat down on 78 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: the sofa, or at least had that much time when 79 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: she got in hold on Jeff. Another question to sry 80 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: Lane was the house otherwise Nate or did it look 81 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: like there had been a struggle? Did it look like 82 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: anyone had broken in and ransacked. It was anything missing, 83 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: not that I could say everything was this normal. The 84 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: leftovers that she took home that night was left on 85 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: the piano. When we first walked in. I saw her 86 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: shoes and her leather jacket were on the on the 87 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: floor where the side of the couch where we found 88 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: her phone is where her phone charger is, so she 89 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: always sat on that side. Was it plugged in? No? No, 90 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: got another question. I just sounds silly, But Charline, what 91 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: were the leftovers that she had brought home? Where did 92 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: you guys go? What does she bring home? It was 93 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: just like chicken fingers on buffle fries and something that 94 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: she was just gonna it's you left over from the dinner, 95 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: but she was gonna take it for lunch the next 96 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: day to work. See right there, that tells me I 97 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: don't think she ever made it into the kitchen because 98 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: she's saying she sat it down. It was by the 99 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: front door. Is that what she said? It's in the 100 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: rambo where the front door is. Yes. However, every light 101 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: in the house was on, which was very strange. Every 102 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: light in the house is that single or two storied. 103 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: It's a ranch single ranch. Every light in the house 104 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: was on. That's not like her, right, because I'm telling 105 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: you have certain lights I leave on when I leave 106 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: and that's that. If anything else is left on, then 107 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: that was a mistake, right, even the one, even the 108 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: light going down to the base, down to the basement 109 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: was on and she would never go down that way. Okay, 110 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: that's very odd in my mind. It was the front 111 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: door locked or unlocked? It was unlocked, but that's kind 112 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: of normal for her to have it unloved. Yeah, really, well, 113 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what at night, like when she goes 114 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: to bed, you know, but when she's home, you know, 115 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: she would keep it unloved. What about her vehicle that 116 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: was in the driveway locked unlocked? But she was she 117 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: driving the night before? Was she in the car with 118 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: you guys? She drove to my house and then we 119 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: all took my vehicle, you know, to the show, and 120 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: then she took a vehicle home from my interesting and 121 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: to Edward pars this is Stephanie's dad. When you saw her, 122 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: what was her demeanor? Was she upbate, I can go 123 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: to the girls right now. I guess something the going 124 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: out and I'm trying to think we're looking. Take a 125 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: listen to our friend Matt Kozar at CBS to New 126 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: York your mind, just Race says, you don't know what's 127 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: happened to her? Where she is ed. Pars's oldest daughter 128 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: is missing, and he's doing everything in his power to 129 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: find her. It's not like her. She would call us, 130 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: she would text she could. According to her parents, Pars 131 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: stopped by their home in Freehold Wednesday night and left 132 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: around ten o'clock to drive five miles to her grandmother's house, 133 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: where they say she was staying. But when she didn't 134 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: show up to work the next morning, friends and family 135 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: knew something was wrong. Police saw patrolling the neighborhood where 136 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: she lived. Her parents say. Investigators found her car and 137 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: her cell phone at her grandmother's house. Everybody just helped 138 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: get it, you know, and get the word out and 139 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: please find her. You know, she's only four eleven. She 140 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: probably weighs like one hundred and ten hundred and fifteen pounds, 141 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: and like, I just want her home. Volunteers have been 142 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: posting flyers with Pars's photo across downtown Freehold. Since then, 143 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: We've just been calling crazy, trying to contact everybody and 144 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: anybody that she knew and we know and everything, hospital wherever. 145 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: It is, just to see if we can locate her 146 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: and haven't had anything, no trace her at all. Her 147 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: family says Pars works as a nanny and a makeup artist. 148 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Detectives asked that you call them if you have any 149 00:08:49,160 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: information crime stories with Nancy Grace. Several searches are going 150 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: on today outside the police investigation, a community reaching out 151 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: to help a heartbroken family find answers to find their daughter. 152 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: My state of mind is just hopeful, okay, you know, 153 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's bittersweet. You want to find something, but 154 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to find something. It's hard to explain that. 155 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: You've got to really feel that. You know, if you 156 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: do find something right away, you're energized. You know, you're like, okay, 157 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: what do we find and then you're hoping it's not 158 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the wrong thing that we're finding ed. Pars expressed his 159 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: gratitude to all of the volunteers, hundreds, really the restaurants 160 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: who've donated food and warm drinks for the people who've 161 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: been searching for hours out here for his daughter. That 162 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: search resumes tomorrow morning at eight thirty here and in 163 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: several other places around Freehold. You were hearing our friends 164 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: at ABC seven. That was our friend Tony Yates speaking. 165 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: The heartbroken family of this gorgeous young girl just twenty 166 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: five years old. If you see a picture of her, 167 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: you can see it at crime online dot com. Just 168 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: she looks like everybody's little sister. Just precious. You know, 169 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: she reminds me of Jackie. I don't know if you 170 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: ever watched Gilligan's Island, she reminds me of Marianne. The 171 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: big smile, the brunette hair, the gorgeous big eyes, just 172 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 1: a good energy, just even from the picture. The heartbroken 173 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: family of Stephanie pars who goes missing after girls night 174 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: out with her family. Her mom others to a seance 175 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: say they are holding onto hope that she is still alive, 176 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping the very same thing. The tipline please 177 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: write this down seven three two four six two seventy 178 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: five hundred repeat seven three two four six two seven 179 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: five zero zero. If you know anything or think you 180 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: know anything, please call this number and with me. In 181 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: addition to Alexis Terres choke Radar Online, doctor Daniel Bober, 182 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrist, former FBI Jeff Cortesi, Wendy Patrick, former prosecutor 183 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Edward and Charlene pars the mom and dad of Stephanie, 184 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: begging for your help. So let me understand this. Charlene, 185 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: that night, she leaves your house in her car. And 186 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: just for our listeners, what kind of car was she driving? 187 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: Nata wait de cool white Hunda Sonata? Yeah, okay, she 188 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: drives that home from your place to her place which 189 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: used to be your grandma's house. And how far away? 190 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Five miles away? And did you expect her to call 191 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: you when she got home? Yes, I told her to 192 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: call me or text me to let me know that 193 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: she got home. Okay, did she No? No, I didn't 194 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: hear from her. Does she normally do that when you 195 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: ask her? Oh? Yeah, oh definitely. And if and if 196 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: for some reason ends up falling asleep, you know, by like, 197 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, just a couple hours later, she's texting me, 198 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: sorry I fell asleep, you know, I'm okay, when did 199 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: you become suspicious? Showing? Well? The next I called the 200 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: next day. I kept on calling that night or texting her, 201 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: and she didn't answer. So I thought that she did 202 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: fall asleep, and I texted her again like seven o'clock 203 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: in the morning. I also thought maybe her phone was 204 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: on silent because of the show, and that she never 205 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: put it back on ringer, So I called her when 206 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I thought that she was on her way to work, 207 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: so I figured her car phone would pick up if 208 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: her phone was on silent, And there was no answer, 209 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: and I kept on texting her and nothing, and she 210 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: was supposed to be at work. So your husband and 211 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: I took a ride over there and her car was 212 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: in the driveway. I quick ran in and that's when 213 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: I told all the lights were on. I know, went 214 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: room to room searching for her. I quick looked for 215 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: her phone and didn't find it. But my mom has 216 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: a three big dogs and she has a little tiny dog, 217 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: and they were all locked in the house where they 218 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: normally have a doggy door where they could go out. 219 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: But when Stephanie has her little Yorkie out, she doesn't 220 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: want her to go out the doggy door because you know, 221 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: she's so tiny and fretu verge, you're gonna like pick 222 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: her up. So I mean I went back a couple 223 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: hours later. Okay, let me understand what that means right there. 224 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: That means something always I once proved a murder case, 225 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: but based on the location of an ear ring, and 226 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a long story, but every fact means something. 227 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: That left Diver's still in the entrance area, that the 228 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: phone by the sofa where she would typically charge it 229 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: and sit. I mean, I don't know about you guys 230 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: on the panel, and I guess I could ask her 231 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: a shrink Dodgor Daniel Bober about this. But I have 232 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: a spot I sit in our den. My daughter has 233 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: a to my right, my son has a spot to 234 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: my left, my husband has a spot when he's home. 235 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: And that's just I don't know why that is. Why 236 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: is that, doctor, Daniel Bober? It means something, I'm sure 237 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: and nobody, Hey, this is my spot. But even at 238 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: the supper table we sit in the same spot. What 239 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: does that mean? Bober? Well, there's always the first time 240 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: you sit in that spot. And I think once you 241 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: do it, enough time to develop a certain pattern in 242 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: a certain comfort zone. And that's kind of where you 243 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: just say because that's where you feel comfortable, and you know, 244 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: I know. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor author, I've read flags, Wendy. 245 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: It's called behavioral evidence, or routine evidence. What that means 246 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: is you do the same thing. It's not like you're 247 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: antal compulsive. It's just you have a routine because that 248 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: is what suits you. For instance, the moment I walk 249 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: in the door, locked the door, and even when we're home, 250 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: turned on the alarm. It's ingrained in me. You just 251 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: do certain things by rote. And the fact that she 252 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: left food in the entrance area that she had, in 253 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: my mind made it to sit down on her sofa, 254 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: that means something to me. And the fact that she 255 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: didn't text back, that means something to me. I know 256 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: it sounds crazy, Wendy, but even up when I was 257 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: still a prosecutor, you know, I was thirty, My mom 258 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: had to be at work really early in the morning, 259 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: like seven am. The moment she got there, as soon 260 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: we still had long distance phone calls and no cell phones. 261 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: She would call me on her as I think they 262 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: called it a Watts line, an eight hundred line, to 263 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: make sure at seven am that I was up and 264 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: leaving to get to court. And I mean still when 265 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm thirty, and if she didn't call me, I would 266 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: think something was wrong. It means something. Everything that Charlene 267 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: is telling us, every fact which may seem small to 268 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: other people means something. That's one of the reasons that 269 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: Charlene you are an amazing witness because it is all 270 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: these little details. You know, we often hear the overused 271 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: phrase the devil is in the detail. Yet that's exactly 272 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: how we prove cases, as Nancy just stated, proving a 273 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: murder case based on the location of an earring. Not 274 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: only are we creatures of habit, but we're also creatures 275 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: of patterns, like doctor Bober was saying, patterns and comfort zone. 276 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: So when you think about the food in the entryway, 277 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: the cell phone near the sofa, how far did she 278 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: get before something happened that was out of the ordinary? 279 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, all of the lights on. That almost indicates 280 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: searching for something. That's the kind of thing you do 281 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: when something's gone missing. That's just one of the explanations, 282 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: but it gets us thinking as to what could it mean? 283 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: How far did she get? And Charlene, you also bring 284 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: up some very practical explanations. We run through all of 285 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: the reasons that somebody might not be answering their phone, 286 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: maybe the batteries dead, maybe the ringers off, until we 287 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: just can't come up with any other explanations where you 288 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: moved on this right away. So my prayers are with 289 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: you and Edward and your whole family. The circumstantial evidence 290 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: you're describing is going to assist in solving this case. 291 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: I want to pick up on something Wendy just said 292 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: to Arline and Edward. Trust me, I'm not ignoring you, 293 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: my most beloved person in the world up there with 294 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: my twins, my dad, and I know you love your 295 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: little girl so much. I got to ask Charline another 296 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: question about all those lights being on, because that's really 297 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: bothering me. When you said that. When you said those words, 298 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I had chills go up both my arms. And when 299 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: Wendy said looks like somebody who's looking for something, She's right. 300 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: Why would you go turn on every light in the house, Sharline, 301 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: That is a question that I've been asking myself because 302 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: she never had every single light on the house. She 303 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: would have to go over to the sliding door to 304 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: turn you know, to shut the doors to the dog 305 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: stump out the dog doggie door. But that is right 306 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: off the living room, which is right off the front door. 307 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: Leaving the food on the piano, that would be stuff 308 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, that's kind of normal, like 309 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: she would do that, but not having her phone. One 310 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: thing I did realize, like when I started getting worried, Um, 311 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: I have a app on my phone that says find 312 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: my device, and she knows it and she likes that. 313 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: I had that idea because if she ever lost her phone, 314 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I was able to trace it. I did notice that 315 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: the location was off. However, her phone was at forty 316 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: four percent. When I checked it a couple hours later, 317 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: it only went down to thirty nine percent. And then 318 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: when we went back that evening when I actually found 319 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: her phone, it was down to thirty four percent. So 320 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: I knew that she was not on her phone all day. 321 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: Otherwise it would have dreamed so much more stories with 322 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: Nancy Gray. Missing posters have been put up around the 323 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: town of Freehold, and family is standing by to get 324 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: any word on the whereabouts of Stephanie Pards. Hopefully she 325 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: sees this and you know every bit of penity that 326 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: she has to fight and to get hold of us. 327 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Friends and family have gathered around Stephanie's parents to give 328 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: them support. She comes from a very close knit family 329 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: who has become known in the area for their elaborate 330 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: holiday decorations. Her father would have begun setting up those 331 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: decorations this past weekend, but has been too distraught and 332 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: too worried about his daughter to think about a celebration. 333 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: She'd be try and reach us, not like her, not 334 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: the contact. Here are the missing posters or one of 335 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: the missing posters that you can find around the town 336 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: of Freehold. She was last seen wearing blue jeans of 337 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: burgundy v neck and burgundy sweater. You're hearing our friend 338 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: ABC seven New York reporter Anthony Johnson and with me 339 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: Stephanie's parents, Edward and Charlene. Charlene, you were with her 340 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: the night before and they keep saying she went to 341 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: a seance. It was really more like a show. What 342 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: was the show and what was her demeanor there? Charlene, Yes, 343 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: it was a show. We actually went to a comedy 344 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: club up in New Brunswick, New Jersey, and there was 345 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: eight of us, her and her, all four of my 346 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: daughters when and it was a really good night. We 347 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: just had dinner. There was a medium there. However, it 348 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: was three hundred people in the audience, so it wasn't 349 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: something that was just going to be a one on 350 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: one reading with us, who was the medium, Cyndi Kaza. 351 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: So it was like a show, okay. A lot of 352 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: people were attaching significance that she went to a seance, 353 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: that she was trying to find out some question. But 354 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: that's not the case at all. It was a comedy club. 355 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: It was a show, okay. What was her demeanor? Very 356 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: very concerned about her demeanor. Oh, she was fine. I mean, 357 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: it was a she loved going out. We're always doing okay, 358 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: family binding time to the binding time, and it was 359 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: just a girl's night out. We had a great time. 360 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: To Edward pars this is Stephanie's dad joining us, asking 361 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: for your help. Repeat tip line seven three two four 362 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: six two seven five hundred seven three two four six 363 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: two seven five hundred. Edward, tell me your recollections of 364 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: that evening and the next morning when you go over 365 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: to Stephanie's home, what you observed, Like I said, I 366 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: didn't see her when she left the house after they 367 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: came back from the show, And we went over the 368 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: house the next afternoon. Once we got to the house, 369 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: then after my wife, when in the house, couldn't find her, 370 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: came back out. She was a little nervous but it 371 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: looked like she had just left with somebody to go, 372 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: you know, to the store or something like that, because 373 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: locked in and stuff, and she would never leave them 374 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: walked in because they can't go to the bathroom. Rathing. 375 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: So we went to h doctors the point that I 376 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: had real quick and then I went back home. And 377 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 1: then a little while later, my wife and my other 378 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: daughter went back to the house. That's when they found 379 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: the still not there and they found the phone. At 380 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: that point, she let me know that she still wasn't 381 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: there and if they did point the phone and she 382 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: was looking at the phone and she saw a message 383 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: from her the parents of the little girl that she 384 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: watched is I'm saying that you know, she comes to 385 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: work today's making sure that he's okay. At that point, 386 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: I got extremely concerned. My wife got a little distraught. 387 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: M We started calling everybody and everybody she knew, all 388 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: of her friends, all friends that we knew that we 389 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: hadn't see if anybody knew her, called her, rest my 390 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: daughters and make sure they haven't heard from her. Some 391 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: family friends, nobody had seen or heard from her at all. 392 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: And then we just have to be exhausted that we decided, 393 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, we've got a call the police. Just not lakers, 394 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: just not shouldn't do that. You know, she's the homebody. 395 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: She lets un't know everything. Well, just started getting the fear, 396 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: just started sitting at that point. Let me ask you 397 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: a question. What have you learned, if anything, from police 398 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: regarding the last time her phone was used and what 399 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: if any text messages were on her phone? Well, the 400 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: police I really haven't given us so much information or 401 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: is the investigations concerned? Um? So I don't really know 402 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: it was on her phone or anything like that. Um, 403 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: they didn't know they had the phone, and you know 404 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: they they did the report that we made very very curiously. Really, 405 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: the ball started rolling the police officers got the house here. Um. 406 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: You know, I know a lot of these police officers 407 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: and detectives personally, so you know, they took it the 408 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: heart immediately and they knew we weren't. It wasn't some 409 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of runaway or something like that. So. Um, but 410 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: as far as anything they found on the phone, well, 411 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: did you guys look at the phone's relase? Do you 412 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: you said that there were was a text from the 413 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: family with whom she worked where she was a nanny saying, hey, 414 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: where are you? Are you okay? Could you read her text? Now? 415 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: If she had a code on her phone and I 416 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: wasn't able to get into it, which she had just 417 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: told me about what her code was like a month ago, 418 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: but I couldn't remember it. But I was able to 419 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: jop down the bar and was able to see that 420 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: one notification from the parents. But that was the only 421 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: thing I could say. So I actually ended up calling 422 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: Verizon and explaining the situation that I needed to get 423 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: in the phone, but they said that I couldn't get 424 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: in the phone. The only thing I could do was 425 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: through a factory reset, but that would delete everything. Another 426 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: wrinkle in the case is we are now learning through 427 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: police sources that her stockbroker boyfriend sent her about ten 428 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: unanswered text messages and about not nine minutes the night 429 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: before she was discovered disappeared. It could very well have 430 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: been the night she disappeared, ending with curse words an 431 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: expletive laced message. I guess because she wasn't texting back 432 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: to Alexa's arrest, I can investigative reporter Radar online dot 433 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: com what have we learned from her cell phone regarding 434 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: those texts? What was the boyfriend saying? John Osbilt. According 435 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: to the police sources, he was harassing her. It was 436 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: a barrage of messages, so many of them, and she 437 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: was not answering. Now, this may have been they came 438 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: when she was in the wait wait and I see. 439 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: There's a big difference Alexis and him going, hey, where 440 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: are you? Why don't you call me? Why are you 441 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: annoying my calls? What's happening? That's one thing, and him 442 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: stalking her and you know, bombarding her with text messages 443 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: ten and nine minutes, that's a whole other thing. Right 444 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: that This wasn't hey, what are you doing? You want 445 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: to go to the movies? This was exactly tenant one 446 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: every minute, just where are you where? And they were 447 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: filled with curse words like as you said, swearing at her. 448 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: And so the police have said that you know, they've 449 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: discovered these messages, they were able to get the messages 450 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: from the phone, and that they know that he had 451 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: sent her so many harassing messages. Then another wrinkle in 452 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the case. Take a listen to Tony eight s ABC 453 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: seven OZ. Belgian blinked heavily in court today as he 454 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: listened to allegations against him. He's been held for the 455 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: past eleven days on child pornography charges for images found 456 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: on his phone. Prosecutors say a few images, then more 457 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: nine additional images were king of female children being expectfully 458 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: abused exploited. Those images found after as Belgian became a 459 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: person of interest in the disappearance of his on again, 460 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: off again girlfriend. Twenty five year old Stephanie Pars, the 461 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: makeup artist who lives in Freehold, went missing October thirtieth 462 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: after she'd headed home after a night out with her family. 463 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: Prosecutors say she had a domestic violence case against oz Belgian, 464 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: that this defendant was texting and Facebook messaging Stephane Parson. 465 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: Eight before her, Jason hearing a domestic violence case against 466 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: his stockbroker boyfriend. Cops find child porn on his cell phone. 467 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Two searches were conducted by 468 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: law enforcement last week along a marsh land area on 469 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: Staten Island, near where oz Belgian once worked. Nothing was found. 470 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: Her father, ed Par says dozens of people will launch 471 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: a search for his daughter tomorrow and Thursday, led by 472 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: first responders in Freehold, in and around areas where tips 473 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: have come in. You don't know. That's the thing. He 474 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: unknown is what's driving us out of our minds. So 475 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: we're going to try and just check off the boxes. 476 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: The best weekend. In the meantime, Oz Belgian is now 477 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: a freeman. The only crime he's facing thus far is 478 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: third degree pornography charges free on bail. I mean, see Grace. 479 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: This is crime stories. While a twenty five year old 480 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: beauty Stephanie Pars is missing and her stalker boyfriend is 481 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: caught with child porn on his cell phone, he somehow 482 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: makes bond and then a torpedo to the case. This 483 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: is a startling development in the case of missing twenty 484 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: five year old Stephanie Pars, which brings investigators here to 485 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: the home of her ex boyfriend, who is found dead 486 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: and sources telling us it appears he took his own life. 487 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: In this photo from the Facebook page of the missing woman, 488 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: Stephanie Pars is at the beach with twenty nine year 489 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: old John Osbalgin, a stockbroker who police say sent ten angry, 490 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: unanswered texts to his former girlfriend the night before she 491 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: went missing. The Momouth prosecutor put out this message on 492 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: social media. John Oswilgin found deceased at his Freehold home 493 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: this morning. We do not believe his death was suspicious 494 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: At this time. Osbulgen was recently released from jail after 495 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: being charged with possession of child pornography. Investigation remains active. 496 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: More to follow. It's a complication for the Pars investigation 497 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: with no identified suspects and no sign of her. Pars, 498 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: a cosmetologist who also worked as a nanny, vanished after 499 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: a family outing to a comedy club in New Brunswick 500 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: on October thirtieth. At home is where the young woman's 501 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: car and cell phone were found, indicating she made it 502 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: back there before disappearing. This is almost too much to 503 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: take in. That is our friend Dave Carlin at CBS 504 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: to New York Alexi's terrestuck, so he is picked up 505 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: after cops find images of child porn on his cell phone. 506 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: This is a young, up and coming stockbreaker that had 507 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: been basically stalking Stephanie, harassing her, sending ten profanity laced 508 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: expletives and just nine handsome sl sing. How the hey 509 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: does he get out all bond while Stephanie's missing and 510 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: then goes hangs himself. How does that happen. Well, I'm 511 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: really actually stunded this to me, this this should have 512 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: been the police would sit him down, they would talk 513 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: to him, they would find Stephanie. He would tell them 514 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: and what he knows, and they would find her and 515 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: she would be home right now. So, but they were 516 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: only holding him on this child brun our recharge, which 517 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: to me is probably the worst charge out there. But 518 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: he made Bill Edward Pars and Charlene Pars with me. 519 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: These are Stephanie's parents. Every source I I've spoken with 520 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: or learned about says that he was released on bail. 521 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: But that's not correct, is it, Edward? No, that's incorrect. 522 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: New Jersey has a bell or format, that's a point system. 523 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: It goes by the offenses that are committed in the charges. 524 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: And apparently, I mean you can go online and actually 525 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: look this up. A criminal actually going to line and 526 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: look this up and do the point system himself, and no, 527 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: he's going to get out of it. Commits a certain crument. 528 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: So according to the point system, even though the prosecutors 529 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: had a case and it made their case very well, 530 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: the judge had no choice point to release him. There's 531 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: no monetary bail or anything like that that was that 532 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: was taken understanding, is Patrick, California Prosecutor. That's just my 533 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: boggling to me that on child porn charges you would 534 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: grid out without relieving putting up any bond. Yeah, you know, Nancy, 535 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: it's frustrating across the country that we do have systems 536 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: that basically assign levels of bail. I'm going to use 537 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: that word loosely, whether you call it a point system 538 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: or money or wherever have you, depending on the level 539 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: of the crime. And one of the things we've seen 540 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: across the country is that seems to just be getting 541 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: more lenient in many areas. So it is so frustrating, 542 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: particularly in a case like this where somebody is released 543 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: who's unders fishing for something else, to see how easy 544 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: it is sometimes to get out when, as you say, 545 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: crimes can be particularly despicable, and you know, images on 546 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: somebody's phone. You know, we need to know more obviously 547 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: about exactly what they were to decide what charges they 548 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: would they would merit. But still, when you look at 549 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: these points from the beginning, as Edward was saying, knowing 550 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of time knowing what Edward knew 551 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: about this man or at least had the bad feelings 552 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: that both he and Charlene had. That's especially troubling. Either 553 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: knowing something about Stephanie's disappearance or Big busted on child porn. 554 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: He would definitely lose his stockbroker's license, his life as 555 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: he knew it would be over. I want to go 556 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: to Charlene and Edward Parr's Stephanie's parents. First of all, Edward, 557 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: did you know about her relationship with twenty nine year 558 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: old John Osbill Ginning? Yeah? I knew seeing him on 559 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: him officer about two months. What did you think of him? 560 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: Had you ever met him? I only met him briefly twice. 561 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: We went on a rafting trip in Rafting trivery year 562 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: the family. Um, there's fifty sixty people airing. He was 563 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: in a different boat, so I met him all goodbye. UM. 564 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Weird feeling about him when I met him, 565 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: but that's just normal feal goad and a new boyfriend. UM. 566 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: The only other time I met him. What about you, Charlene? 567 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: What was your take on os Bilgan? I didn't care 568 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: from from the beginning. There was just something that bothered me. Um. 569 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm always analyzing. I have four girls. So I'm always 570 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,959 Speaker 1: you know, checking the new boyfriends that come in, and 571 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, and Stephanie's always you know, she had somebody over, 572 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: I guess opinions and stuff. And he was just very unsociable, 573 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, never spoke um even you know, her friends 574 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: didn't care for him. Um. And I guess every time 575 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: he talked apparently of what the friend said, it was 576 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: like more like a cold joke that he would do 577 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: instead of like a conversation. Um. But no, I had 578 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: just I had just told Stephanie um on Yeah, the 579 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: monday before she went missing, I had asked her what 580 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: was the what was going on with her and John? 581 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: And um, you know, she had said to me that 582 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: it's complicated. She says, uh, like I almost completely broke 583 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: it off with him. Yeah, two days ago, she says, 584 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: But um, I'll go back to like when we first 585 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: started dating and it's so nice and then he just 586 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: reeled me back in and then you know, it gets 587 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: bad again. Then he reeled me back in and he says, 588 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: it's hard to get away from him. Yeah. But I 589 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: had told her that because he had hit her three other, 590 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, three times, that he was never going to 591 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: be accepted his family. There would be no holidays, no 592 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: family gather at the gatherings, no wedding, no nothing. And 593 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, it just seemed like she was just trying 594 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: to end it with him. You know, um, I'm just thinking, sorry, 595 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: what had happened in their relationship? Things have become so 596 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: bad between them that Stephanie had filed on a saw 597 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: domestic violence complaint against him in September and very disturbing 598 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: to Jeff Cortesi, former FBI special agent. You can find 599 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: him at Jeff Cortesi dot com. While investigating Stephanie's disappearance, 600 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: detectives noticed marks around his neck. What do you make 601 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: of that, Jeff? You know, before any of this information 602 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: that we've discussed today, you know, the first place that 603 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement is going to be looking in a missing 604 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: person case is the person closest to the person missing, 605 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: whether it's a husband or boyfriend. And then, you know, 606 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: after hearing all of this other information, you can't help 607 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: but raise your eyebrows even more. Obviously when you see 608 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: physical violence or physical marks on somebody, you know, sometimes 609 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: you can it suggests obviously that an altercation maybe between 610 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: two people. You know, there are other excuses but in 611 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: a situation like this, given this circumstances, the marks on 612 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: his body would be significant um to questioning. I'm very 613 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: curious to doctor Daniel Bober and m D as well 614 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: as a forensic psychiatrist, whether they performed any kind of 615 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: DNA test on those marks. What do you think, Bober? 616 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: Very hard to say, but certainly would be helpful information. 617 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: Edward pars what do you know if anything about DNA 618 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: testing on oz bilgen they also did. They also did 619 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: dom also did do DNA testing of the stratted arms, 620 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: neck and complete uh, forensic screening of himself, the whole person. 621 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: So they did that. What did they find, if anything, Well, 622 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: it was after the fact though it was kind of 623 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: hard to find any usable DNA or anything like that, 624 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,760 Speaker 1: so they really didn't. They did find the next scratches 625 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: cratched in the neck, but the rest and apparently it 626 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: was clear it was watch on his legs and we know, 627 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just thinking through what we know so far, 628 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 1: it could be taken so many different ways, doctor Bober, 629 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: that he goes home, he gets out on bail, which 630 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: was just I don't know what judge would have done that. 631 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: But he gets out on bill and goes home and 632 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: hangs himself. Some would say that's evidence of guilt. Some 633 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: would say he was ashamed of the charge getting busted 634 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: on child porn on his cell phone. Doctor Bober. Yeah, 635 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: maybe he couldn't even handle the pressure or the prospect 636 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: of being charged. And I see this a lot in 637 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: cases that I'm involved in, where someone will take their 638 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: own life just the appearance of impropriety without even being charged. 639 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: But also in addition to the child porn, we know 640 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: that there were at least nine images of children as 641 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: young as three being sex abused on his phone. We 642 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: know that he would be facing about five years behind 643 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: bars on that, but the fact that she had taken 644 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: out about an assault charge on him. We know that 645 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: two electronic devices were seized, but would not clarify whether 646 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 1: they were seized in relation to Stephanie's case. UM trying 647 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: to figure out where this leaves us. Now to Charlene 648 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: Pars Charlene, what is your message today? The community and 649 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: the family and friends have been fantastic. We're doing everything 650 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: we possibly tend to find her, from you know, flyers 651 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: to lawn times, to shirts to volunteers. The outpour is amazing. 652 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: People that you know we haven't seen in thirty years, 653 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: are knocking on our door. People that don't have never 654 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: even met us for Stephanie are coming out to, you know, 655 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: help for the search. It's touching everybody. I mean, this 656 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: town is amazing, and all the law enforcement, I mean 657 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: everybody has been helping. Above and beyond that we couldn't 658 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: ever imagine. We just want to get her home. We 659 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: need to find her. For those of you listening now, 660 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: the tip line to help find stept Old seven thirty 661 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: two four six two seventy five hundred repeat seven three 662 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: two four six two seventy five hundred. Her parents holding 663 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: out hope, and we join them today in asking you 664 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: to help us bring Stephanie home. Our prayers with the 665 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: pars family and with Stephanie. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing 666 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 1: off good bye, said