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Speaker 3: Welcome in. Let's get the Fox.

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Speaker 1: Says and now what does the thought say?

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Speaker 3: Everyday?

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Speaker 2: This time in the Bonus podcast to play for you

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Speaker 2: a previous version of a Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: One show. Here's Nick right talking about the end of

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Speaker 2: this chapter of his his favorite team.

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Speaker 3: To cancel the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: This is the end of this chapter. And you can

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Speaker 4: put these seven years up against any seven years in

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Speaker 4: NFL history. Oh yeah, it's seven years. It's seven conference

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Speaker 4: title appearances, it's five super Bowl appearances. It's three rings

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Speaker 4: in a seven year stretch. Only the Steelers have more

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Speaker 4: rings in a seven year stretch. Right, No, But I

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Speaker 4: mean for the team, because I think there's the chapter

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Speaker 4: for a team like the Chiefs are now going to

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Speaker 4: be entering a new era. Andy will still be there

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Speaker 4: next year, I believe, And the year after, but at

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Speaker 4: some point in this there'll be a new coach Travis.

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Speaker 4: Either yesterday was the last game with Travis and Patrick

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Speaker 4: and again I'm searching for silver linings. I think the

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Speaker 4: next few weeks are going to force the team to

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Speaker 4: hold a mirror up to how much fifteen was holding together,

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Speaker 4: because I believe they are going to lose to the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about this yesterday that this era,

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Speaker 3: The question is how do you get it back?

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Speaker 2: And that's where really where rebuild and reload meet, Okay,

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Speaker 2: is are you gonna go out and sign free agents

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Speaker 2: it and start to draft and know it may take

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Speaker 2: get him? I think with Mahomes, with the new information

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Speaker 2: that mahomes surgery already took place, that's because the LCL

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Speaker 3: If it's me, I rebuild, not reload.

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Speaker 2: And again where I differentiate is do you go with

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Speaker 3: Early and see the bigger picture.

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Speaker 2: Or do you try and quick fix it and get

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Speaker 2: just be a year of them in Kansas City. And

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Speaker 2: I think with again, with the injury that came out,

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Speaker 2: because then it's a true repair. You're not rebuilding it

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Speaker 5: You're really gonna lose sleep that three four times a week.

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Speaker 5: He puts his pajamas on backwards. You got Beethoven down

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Speaker 5: not losing a ton of sleep. I think sixty one

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Speaker 5: about how accurate Josh Allen is this year. That's because

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Speaker 2: Fewest number of interceptions for young player to throw a

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Speaker 2: They're a good football team. I still think it's a

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Speaker 3: You're not getting rid of him.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying in terms of what the second contract

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Speaker 2: Here's LeVar Arrington, part of two Pros to Kapa Joe

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Speaker 2: talking about last night's Steelers win or the Dolphins.

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Speaker 6: To me, that was not going to be an easy

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Speaker 6: maybe expose warts that existed with this Steelers team. They

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Speaker 6: passed that test. They passed that test. Now they are

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Speaker 6: was probably Aaron Rodgers' best showing as a quarterback for

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Speaker 6: just says to me, you cannot you cannot make the

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Speaker 6: come to the conclusion that this is a one and

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Speaker 6: the cart, like, there are some good teams. They're just unproven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think on both sides. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't want unproven. I mean, you have the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 2: don't think it's unfair, but I mean, when one team

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Doug. I think what people, what listeners appreciate about

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Speaker 7: this podcast is that we have like a common sense

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Speaker 7: approach to social issues. Common sense, you know, not on

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Speaker 7: and say, I like the podcast. I think they're referring

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Speaker 7: to the common sense approach to social issues. Yes, and

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Speaker 7: I think that you can call my opinions right leaning

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Speaker 7: have a problem with you calling me MAGA. I believe

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Speaker 7: in a public social safety net that runs contrary to MAGA.

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Speaker 7: I don't have a passion about guns. If they all

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Speaker 7: that's not a MAGA thing. And the chief of MAGA,

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Speaker 7: issues he purports himself. He presents himself as a despicable

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Speaker 7: United States. So let's get that settled. I'm not maga. Okay,

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Speaker 7: this next opinion might be right leaning though, So in

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Speaker 7: Rachel Nichols had the goal to present this question to

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Speaker 8: So because Asia was named Time Magazine's Athlete of the

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Speaker 8: Year and she's doing a bunch of interviews and talking

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Speaker 8: Is he that much of a scout?

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Speaker 9: Sam takes his job very serious and whatever it takes

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Speaker 1: That's what it takes, all right.

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Speaker 8: So van Adebayo and Asia Wilson, watch out if you

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Speaker 3: There's a lot there.

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Speaker 2: It is annoying the people that are offended if you're

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Speaker 2: And and I know that that, uh, that line has

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Speaker 3: That's how on top of it, he is, right, but

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Speaker 3: she that's not her. She does not have comedic timing. Uh.

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Speaker 7: Shoot, George Carlin.

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Speaker 2: Not George Carlin. He was the movie Parenthood. He was

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Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, we're gonna wear the green ones them. We

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Speaker 7: the sixties. I forget who what the old name is?

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Speaker 3: Hold On? Is it really again?

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Speaker 2: You just threw out a fact which I don't know

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Speaker 2: of it's actual effect.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I have no idea, but I once read that

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Speaker 7: that that was the largest.

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Speaker 3: Hold On.

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Speaker 2: You sold the ship out of that one, right, because

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's fucking good.

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Speaker 3: I need to read that book anyway, Go ahead, Power Positive.

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Speaker 7: Thinking, and that entire book is about these unprovable things.

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Speaker 7: If you go into a situation with positive thinking, positive

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Speaker 7: results will happen. It's just it's a mindset more than

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Speaker 7: it is like a I can't see it, so I'm

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Speaker 7: not going to believe in it type of thing. So

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Speaker 7: the So to wrap up this conversation, Doug, I think

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Speaker 7: you've said you're superstitious, but you're not superstitious whatever. But

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Speaker 7: the question is, are you going to judge people who

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Speaker 7: are because you see it all the time?

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Speaker 3: Do you judge people are religious?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: Really really religious?

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 7: I think that having a faith is actually, in a

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Speaker 7: lot of ways admirable. If you can if you can

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Speaker 7: put your if you can put your your head on

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Speaker 7: the pillow every night, believing that there is a higher power,

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Speaker 7: or believing that this this life on earth is simply

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Speaker 7: a pregame for a massive party. After that's an amazing belief,

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Speaker 7: Like you're you are going to be a happier person.

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Speaker 7: So I, as a cynical negative person, I actually admire

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Speaker 7: people with faith.

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Speaker 2: I admire people who live by what they believe. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I don't know if I admire I

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Speaker 2: do feel like there it's a little bit it can

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Speaker 2: it can feel a little culty when you're like go

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Speaker 2: along with everything that is said to you in church,

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Speaker 2: and that's exactly what you do in exactly what you

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Speaker 2: think when there's.

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Speaker 3: A robotic nature to it. Does that make.

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Speaker 2: Sense again, I'm just being honest with my I'm a

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Speaker 2: I'm not a judgmental person, but it is something that

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Speaker 2: I do judge people about. When everything is about Jesus,

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Speaker 2: everything is about the religion.

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Speaker 3: It can be Jesus, can be Muhammed, it can be whatever.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: There's a level of fanaticism towards anything. Same thing with atheists,

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Speaker 2: like I don't care if you're atheist, that's fine. Like

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Speaker 2: if you are and there ends up being a heaven, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you kind of fuck that one up. It's the it's

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Speaker 2: the proclamation of your religion or lack thereof, and the

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Speaker 2: I I am sure that I am right and everything

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Speaker 2: else is wrong, and I will go one by somebody

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Speaker 2: else's determination of what I should do. That I'm like,

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Speaker 2: But I generally believe that people like that that irritate

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Speaker 2: me are the ones that I feel it's phony. They

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Speaker 2: don't live it, they just say it. We go yeah,

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Speaker 2: So anything else annoying.

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Speaker 7: You, No, that's it. You have Sam's judgment of Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 7: Cam Newton's take on being a Trailblazer quarterback and the

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Speaker 7: reaction to Rachel Nichols as Jimmy the Greek.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do Cam Newton.

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Speaker 2: It's just the like Cam Newton just started doing television.

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Speaker 2: And let me make sure I say this, ninety five

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Speaker 2: percent of people who just start doing TV.

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Speaker 3: Are bad at are bad at it.

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Speaker 2: He is really not good at it because he has

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Speaker 2: no he is yet to get to the point where

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Speaker 2: he accepts any of the flaws of his career, has

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Speaker 2: any sort of, you know, reasonable take. He's still in

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Speaker 2: this super defensive Everything has comes down to race thing,

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Speaker 2: and there is the clownishness, which I don't watch first Take,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know if it exists, but I do know,

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Speaker 2: and I actually have a I feel I understand this part.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that's bad about first take and

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Speaker 2: why all those people are bad in other television settings

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Speaker 2: is because there's no I'm limit on how long they talk.

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Speaker 2: They just fucking talk, which I know I have in radio,

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Speaker 2: and I can tell you that some of it's real

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Speaker 2: and some of it is perception that when you're a

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Speaker 2: radio guy, when you're a person that talks in seven

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Speaker 2: minute can talk for seven minutes straight.

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Speaker 3: In a monologue.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you go long on television, you're judged as well.

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Speaker 2: He's a radio guy. He doesn't know when to shut

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Speaker 2: the fuck up. He has no idea how to be

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Speaker 2: concise with what he says. He doesn't truly have a

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Speaker 2: grasp of who he was as a player, or how

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Speaker 2: he's perceived or anything. I mean, just again, the idea

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Speaker 2: at this point in his life, the idea that when

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers came back, he'd want to know he thought

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Speaker 2: he wasn't getting a call because of the circus it

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Speaker 2: would create, not even talking about like I had a

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Speaker 2: shoulder injury and I couldn't throw a football. And when

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Speaker 2: I say can't throw football, it's not that you can't

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Speaker 2: throw it. You don't throw it like an NFL player, quarterback,

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Speaker 2: the best of the best of the best. But he's

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Speaker 2: so obnoxious and annoying. It's easy, Cam Newton, you're annoying.

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this because we can?

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Speaker 7: This SoundBite reminds me of one of my favorite scenes

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Speaker 7: in UH. There's something about Mary, very politically incorrect. I

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Speaker 7: don't even think you could put this in a movie. Nowadays.

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Speaker 7: But when Matt Dillon is talking about Cameron Diaz's special

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Speaker 7: needs brother, and he's talking about how he used to

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Speaker 7: work with those people and how they used to let

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Speaker 7: him out of their cage, and she's like, you put

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Speaker 7: him in a cage, and he's I'm not going to

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Speaker 7: tell anybody to run my life anyways. This is Jaylen

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Speaker 7: Brown talking about Scottie Barnes and he got in a

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Speaker 7: little trouble for it. So this is Jleen Brown streaming

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Speaker 7: something because he's injured. He's just playing video games and

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Speaker 7: he talks about Scotty Barnes.

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Speaker 13: Scottie Barnes is strong as shit. This motherfucker guy like that,

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Speaker 13: you know. I like that he got that extra chromosome

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Speaker 13: strength like he had just like just some type of

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Speaker 13: Ninja turtle or something that mom that boy's strong as hell.

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Speaker 3: I like the Ninja Turtle one. That's fucking cool.

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Speaker 2: I was, you know, it's I didn't watch the Ninja

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Ninja Turtles other than I

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Speaker 2: liked the movie, the first movie.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see the second movie. But that's a funny bite.

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Speaker 2: Why can't play for you? Because we can't that's it

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