1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Person Behind the Pads podcast, a chat 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: with the Colts player about life off the grid iron. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: What's up, everyone, Welcome into another episode of the Person 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: Behind the Pads podcast here on the Colts Audio Network. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm JJ Stankowitz. Joined today by running back Jonathan Taylor. 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: That is the last we will mention of football on 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: this podcast, JT. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: That sounds like a plan to me either way. Shoot, 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 3: I love ball, I eat, sleep, breathe ball. So with 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: the pads on, without the pads on, I'm just as 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: ecstatic about either side. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: I know you spend so much time on football, whether 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: you're in the training room, whether you're in your playbook, 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: whether you're working out, practicing all those things, so we 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: want to talk about some of you're off the field interest. 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: All right, So you're from New Jersey. Yes, When is 17 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: the first time you pumped gas on your own? 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: When I went to school in Wisconsin, that was the 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: first time I pumped gas on my own. You know 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: that you're one of the only states that pump You're on. 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Think the only for them? I think the only state? 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we might be the only one. So it 23 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: wasn't until actually went to Wisconsin. I forgot about it, 24 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: and I didn't have a car at the time until 25 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: I got a mopad and I actually went to go 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 3: and I had to fill up my mopad by myself. 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 3: I was waiting on my mopad. I'm like, no one's 28 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: coming up to me, no one's saying a word. I 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: see everyone else pumping their own gas. I'm like, oh, 30 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: this just must be some different kind of gas. 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: We're like people looking at you, like what's this guy doing? 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: Like why isn't he filling up his this gas? 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: I get, well, I was on my phone, you know, 34 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: you just trying to make it something like you're actually 35 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: doing something. So I was on my phone, but I'm 36 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: just watching everyone else and I'm like, Okay, they're all 37 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: pumping their own gas. Maybe that's a self serve pump 38 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 3: and maybe I'm just waiting for the attendant. But they 39 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: all look the same. Someone left, I walked over there. 40 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 3: It doesn't say self serve. So I'm like, okay, wait, 41 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: I forgot I have to pump my own gas. I'm like, 42 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: I know it's easy, but I'm like, how do you 43 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: do it? Like how do you get it started? So 44 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: that was the first time. 45 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: I got a did you have to like ask for help. 46 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: I did. First. I went and I asked the guy 47 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: in the store. I said, could I get twenty dollars 48 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: on pump four? So, just you know, trying to play 49 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: it like that, and he's like, now, yeah, you're good 50 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: to go. He's like, you're good to go. What do 51 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: you need? But it wasn't like a hey, do you 52 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: can you tell me how to pump gas? I was 53 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: just like, can I get twenty dollars on pump four? 54 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, no, you could just go out there. 55 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: You're paying cash. Okay, no, you should be good. So 56 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, why did he say that? I just 57 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: told him what I wanted, Like, okay, I got to 58 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: pump my own gas. So I looked up a quick 59 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: YouTube video. Shout out to YouTube. You can learn anything 60 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: on YouTube anything. 61 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: What was the first time you pump gas in like 62 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: a Wisconsin winter? Were you like, oh, wish I was 63 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: back home now. 64 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: I was the Wisconsin winner. Is not until it's windy. 65 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: When it's windy in Wisconsin, I mean, it doesn't unless 66 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: you have on some type of mountain coat. It's going 67 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: to cut through any layers that you have, Like you 68 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: could have two hoodies on. That wind is going to 69 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: just pierce right through that. I don't know how. It's 70 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: just so cold, it's going to pierce right through that. 71 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: So tell me about Salem, New Jersey. You know, it's 72 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: a town of like five thousand. When I think in 73 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: New Jersey, my knowledge of it is exclusively like Philadelphia 74 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: and New York adjacent. But Salem's You're like close to Delaware. 75 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: What's the town like? 76 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, I'm fifteen minutes from Delaware. If I 77 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: fly home, I'm flying in the Philadelphia it is. It's 78 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: a small town. You can literally walk the entire perimeter 79 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: of Salem. That's how small it is. So you can 80 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: do that in a day easily, you can do that 81 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: in a couple hours. Like basically even growing up, you 82 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: literally walked everywhere. If you didn't have a car, you 83 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: want to walk to school, you could walk to school. 84 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: It's not like you had to take the bus. You 85 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: want to walk to the pizza place, or you wanted 86 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: to walk to the candy shop. It is literally, I 87 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: don't want to say ten minute walk, like literally five minutes. 88 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: But everybody knows everybody, So if I don't know you 89 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: personally I can ask who is your relative to your mom, dad, sister, brother, 90 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: I'll know someone in your family, not just myself, but 91 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: everybody will know someone from your family. So I think 92 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: for me, I noticed how tight knit the community was 93 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: once I left and saw how much support I had 94 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: Back home, I saw the support there just growing up, 95 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: any really anybody that they had support. But it's not 96 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: until you leave and you really see how much the 97 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 3: entire city comes together when it's one of them. 98 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: Now that you're you know, you're grown up and you're 99 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: away from it. You're here in Indianapolis, a big city. 100 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: You were in you know, Madison, a big city. How 101 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: do you think growing up in a small town shaped 102 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: you as a person. 103 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: I think it's people skills, just being able to interact 104 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: with people on a daily basis. You think about New 105 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: York and it's very fast paced, everyone's moving, getting where 106 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: they got to go business. But I think growing up 107 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: in South New Jersey, that small knit community, it taught 108 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: me people skills. You know, how to interact with someone 109 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: and how to be nice to someone. And it kind 110 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: of took me for a spin. Whar I got to 111 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 3: Wisconsin because I am from East Coast, so I do know, Okay, 112 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: when you're somewhere that you're not familiar with, you know, 113 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: you just go about your business, you know, you don't 114 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: don't try to make a scene. It's just hey, I 115 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: need to go to the store. I need to go here. 116 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: And people would just stop, Hey, how you doing, nice weather, 117 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: we're having it. I'm like, why are they? You know, 118 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: they're very nice. But then it just got, you know, 119 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: some time for me to get accustomed to, you know, 120 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 3: the Midwest and you know, just how genuine people are 121 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: and being nice. But I was able to handle it 122 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: because I had great people skills. 123 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: I was going to say, you seem like someone who 124 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: Midwest nice would fit pretty well. 125 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: And I think that's why coming from that small town, 126 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: Like once I got used to, okay, people in the Midwest, 127 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: they're they're genuinely nice. It was easy for me because 128 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: I had great people skills, because I grew up in 129 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: a small community where I knew everybody. So if you 130 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: go out to the store and you may see somebody 131 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 3: that you know, or if you're just driving in a car, 132 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: you just may see somebody on the side parking their 133 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: car and you're like, hey, what's up. How you doing, 134 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: and I haven't seen you in a while, so I 135 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: just felt like it really built my people skills up 136 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: a lot. 137 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: How much of a traveler are you. 138 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: I'm not a huge traveler. I do as I've started 139 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: to travel, I've grown to enjoy and appreciate it, but 140 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: I haven't got to the point where I'm like, oh, 141 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: I can't wait for the next trip. But I do 142 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: love traveling. I feel like I will grow into that 143 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: because you when you travel, you just see how people 144 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: see the world differently, and that's because they grew up differently. 145 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: They grew up in a different culture, they grew up 146 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: with different customs, and you can see how serious they 147 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: take certain customs, or you can see how lightly they 148 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: take a custom that you may have that is serious 149 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: to you. So it just it broadens your perspective on 150 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: like how large not only the United States is, but 151 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: how big large the world is. 152 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: Have you gone on your honeymoon yet? No? 153 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: Not yet? Not yet? You know that's going to be 154 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: So we really want to plan that out. I know 155 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: I wanted to. We had OTAs two weeks early here, 156 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: so we just wanted to make sure we were in 157 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: the best position. New coaching staff meet the new teammates. 158 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a new year. It's a new year, 159 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: so we wanted to just make make sure that we 160 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: were here. I wanted to be here, especially my old teammates. 161 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: You know, hey, how's the off season been. But not yet, 162 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: but we're planning it and we want it to be 163 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: really nice. 164 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: So are you are you going to be a beach 165 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: guy for the honeymoon or like a we're gonna go 166 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: to like Europe and go around or go to Asia 167 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: and go around type of honeymoon. 168 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I feel like we have to go kind 169 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: of around somewhere because I mean, we love the beach, 170 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: and not to say beaches are all the same, but 171 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you're gonna get beautiful weather, 172 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: you're gonna get sand, you're gonna get water. But it's 173 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: something different when you see something that has a historical 174 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: background to it, something that's that's written in the history books. 175 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: You know, not everybody gets to see those things and 176 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: experience those things. So I think that is that's a 177 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: honeymoon kind of experience. 178 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: I love it. 179 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: That was kind of my honeymoon, so I love that feel. 180 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: What's the most recent place you've traveled to. 181 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: The most recent place Cabo the most place I traveled 182 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: with Cabo. That was incredible. I mean, like, like I mentioned, 183 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: the beach was incredible, the weather, the food. I forgot 184 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: to mention that the food. When you travel other places 185 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: you get to see, you know, what's in their daily diet, 186 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: what do they eat normally? Some of that food is 187 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: really really good. Yeah, but Cabo was their most recent 188 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: place I've traveled, not super super far, but it was. 189 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: It was beautiful and I enjoyed it. Like I can 190 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: see why people go all the time. 191 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite place You've traveled to? 192 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: Favorite place that I've traveled to so far? Would definitely have. 193 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: It could be in the United States, or it could 194 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: be out of the United States anywhere. In high school, 195 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: we went to Switzerland. In high school, we went to 196 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: Switzerland for the International Bacularia program that I was in. 197 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: That was a fun time, just being able War One. 198 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: It was kind of crazy. I was in high school 199 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: and we went to Switzerland. Yeah, now that you really 200 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: think about it in high school, but it was. It 201 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: was an experience that not everybody gets in their lifetime, 202 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: and we got to do it in high school. So 203 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 3: I try to appreciate the things that I saw now 204 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 3: because you know, you're a kid in high school. You're like, oh, 205 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: I want to you know, we're in Switzerland, like let's 206 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: just let's have fun. But now it's like understanding how 207 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 3: deep that really was, Like, no, you got to go 208 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: to Switzerland. You got to interact with other kids and 209 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: teenagers around the world and you got to hear their story. 210 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: So it was really cool. 211 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: So you got to interact with like Swiss high school 212 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: students who are in the same program, Like what did 213 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: you get to do? 214 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: One from all over all over the world the International 215 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: BACULARUIAT program. You could be from India, you could be 216 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: from Europe, you could be from anywhere. If you're in 217 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: that International Bacula program. They have a conference every single year. 218 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: It's in this summer and it's different places. So it 219 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: can be in Spain, it could be in Switzerland, it 220 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: could be in Canada. Thankful enough, my year that it 221 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: was time to go is in Switzerland, so I was 222 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: able to experience that. 223 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Do you think you might ever take a vacation to 224 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: outer space one day? 225 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: Oh? Oh yeah, I mean that's gonna be. That is 226 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: gonna that's gonna happen, like just a is that I 227 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: don't even know, just that constant travel back and forth 228 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: between outer space in the US, anywhere in the US 229 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: really in the world, that's gonna happen. I mean, you 230 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: can just see now how the technology keeps progressing and 231 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: building each and every single year, each and every single month. 232 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: Really it's always something new coming out. And I think 233 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: that's gonna be a real possibility, Like people are gonna 234 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: be able to go and travel in the space and 235 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: come back just like taking a bus. 236 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: How soon do you think, I mean, you're you're talking 237 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: about this like it's gonna happen, Like, how soon do 238 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 2: you think you might? 239 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: For me? I think by twenty thirty, they'll definitely be 240 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: some sort of transportation to and from space, whether that's 241 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: super expensive transportation to where people like Jeff Bezos, you 242 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: know how they did it, similar to where they can 243 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: just go as they please. But I do think by 244 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: twenty thirty, whether we know it or not, I do think, 245 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: because right now the technology is it's insane to think that, hey, 246 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: there's no way within the near future we won't be 247 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: able to go to them from space. 248 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: And I know I know you're into astronomy. How do 249 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: you keep up with those developments? Are you like a 250 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: like a news junkie. Are you constantly like following SpaceX launches? 251 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: Are you like following the NASA like Artemis program? Like, 252 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: how do how are you keeping up with that? 253 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely I'm up on SpaceX launches. I mean that's 254 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,359 Speaker 3: actually the stuff that's going on there is really ridiculous, 255 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 3: is really ridiculous. I don't think people understand the magnitude 256 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: of what's going on. 257 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so what do you what do you mean by that? 258 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: Like, let's just take going to the Moon for example. 259 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: You know we went to the moon. This is a 260 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: while ago. Everyone's like, Okay, we did it. Like they're 261 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: literally trying to develop a way for us to do 262 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: what we're doing here somewhere else. We could literally be 263 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: doing the same thing somewhere else. And there's not only 264 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: one person, there's a group of people. There's a large 265 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 3: amount of people who really believe it's possible and who 266 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: have the tools and the knowledge to help work through 267 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: making that happen. And I don't I think once it once, 268 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: like I said, once it comes out, it's going to 269 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: be shocking for people, similar to when the Internet came out. 270 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 3: Oh you know, that's crazy. The Internet. It's going to 271 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: sound very crazy until it's really a reality. 272 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: What do you think a like a trip to the 273 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: to space would look like? I mean, like, cause I 274 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: I'm someone I hate heights, Like flying is just it's 275 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: enough for me. I don't need to go any higher 276 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: than forty thousand feet. Like what do you think that 277 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: would be? 278 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: Like? Well, one, like you mentioned if you if you're 279 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: afraid of heights, I think you're definitely that's number one. 280 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: You gotta over You got to try to overcome that. 281 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: I'll stay here. 282 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: Number one. You got to try to overcome that. But 283 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: then with the technology, it's not just like when we 284 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: went to the moon. I don't want to say it 285 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: was just about getting there. We wanted to get there safely. 286 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: The technology now it's going to be how do we 287 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: get there comfortably? Like I don't think people like, hmm, 288 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: it's gonna be like a very nice ride. Now. Of course, scientifically, 289 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: you know, you may go through I don't want to 290 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: say turbulence, but there's going to be something. But the 291 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: way that they're going to advance that transportation to where 292 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: you could be eating a meal, possibly possibly just going 293 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: into space. So but that's why those bright minds that 294 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: are working together, collaborating, I think, I believe that they 295 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: will be able to get it done and people will 296 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 3: be able to go comfortably, even if you're afraid of heights. 297 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: I think that they'll make the ride so smooth it'll 298 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: just feel like you're in a car. That's what I think. 299 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: That's what I think will develop in the future. 300 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: Where does your love for astronomy come from? How did 301 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: that start? 302 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I've always been a science guy. I 303 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: just know I've always been a science guy in general. 304 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: So I guess once it came to space, you just look. 305 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: I know, I got I got a telescope back when 306 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: I was younger. It was in like sixth grade, I 307 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: got I got a telescope. I've always been a science guy, 308 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: but then I got the telescope and finally look down 309 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: into you know at night, just lose using regular telescope. 310 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't nothing high tech fancy, but you just see 311 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: how vast it is, you know, especially on a clear 312 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: night when you can just see all of those stars, 313 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: and then you start learning how far away those stars 314 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: actually are, and the fact that they're able to shine 315 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: bright at night. You're like, Okay, so there's a huge 316 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: ball of gas and rock somewhere out there shining hot 317 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: enough bright enough for me to see it here, and 318 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: you know it not makes you feel small, so like 319 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: it's a really big world out there. 320 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 321 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: I always like asking this question to people who are 322 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: into astronomy, But like, what do you think when you 323 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: look at the stars at night, when you're looking through 324 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: your telescope or you're just kind of sitting out there 325 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: and you're sort of just looking up at the universe. 326 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: I sometimes wonder if someone's looking at me, like not 327 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: necessarily at me, but planet Earth. They could if they 328 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: could see us from wherever they're at, and they're like, man, 329 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: that's really far out there. I wonder what is out there? 330 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 3: And we're wondering the same thing. It kind of trips 331 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: you out a little bit. 332 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you just. 333 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: Think about how massive the universe is, you're like, what 334 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: are the chances that there's nothing else out there? And 335 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: what are the chances that we're the only ones? 336 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 337 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: You go tip for tap for it, you go back 338 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: and forth, and it's scary and you know, it can 339 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: be scary, but it's also exciting. And then you know 340 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: you don't want to really look at movies, you know, 341 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: movies that that's Hollywood, but you're just like, what does 342 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: it look like? Could they look you know, could if 343 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: there's something else out there, could it look like us? 344 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: Could they look totally different but have the same mannerisms 345 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: as you don't know? And I think that's the biggest 346 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: mystery that not only myself but other people are interested. 347 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: I think that's what reels them in is you don't know. 348 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: So like when I was growing up, my dad had 349 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: it was called SETI do you know what I'm talking about. 350 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: It It was like a thing that's scanned for radio 351 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: transmission from like deep space, and you could just like 352 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: set up a station on your computer to do it 353 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: and it would feed into this database. This is like 354 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: early two thousands, remember, just like looking at it was 355 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: like a screen saver and looking at these like waves 356 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: coming in and like always being like, oh, I'm not 357 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: going to see one that spikes to see there's an alien, 358 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, radio transmission. I think that's such a cool 359 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: thing to just like think about and consider. 360 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: Now one hundred percent, like you said, because you don't know, 361 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: But it's the I don't want to say. It's like 362 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: the chase. You know, you think about people who chase storms. 363 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: They're very fascinating in storms, and they love the chase, 364 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: so that's why they go out and they chase storms. 365 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: So it's like you love the fact that there's a 366 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: possibility that something else could be out there in the universe, 367 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: but you also love the chase, like I want to 368 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: find new evidence. I want to discover something new. I 369 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: want to have a new breakthrough. So I feel like 370 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: that's what kind of drives these scientists. That's what drives 371 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: people are interested in it. They're like, you know, I 372 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: want to know as much as possible. I want to 373 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 3: know about new breakthroughs because it's so so interesting because 374 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: you realize there's so much. There's a lot here. You 375 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: got family, you got friends, got there's a lot here, 376 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: and there's so much more. There's so much more. 377 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: It's almost like what the way I think about it 378 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: is it's almost like, how could there not be more 379 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: out there? 380 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 3: Exactly? How can there What are the chances that there's 381 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: nothing else out there? Now? There could be nothing else 382 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: out there, but what are their chances, you know, and 383 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: you're like okay, like you know, am I Are we 384 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: really that lucky? 385 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: Like? 386 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: What what else is out there? And I think that's 387 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: why scientists they spend countless hours, days, nights just studying 388 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: because they know, you know, it's going to be a breakthrough. 389 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 3: There's going to be a breakthrough sometime someplace somewhere, and 390 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: they want to be the ones to have that breakthrough, 391 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 3: which is pretty cool because I know that they're just 392 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: like almost twenty four to seven, I know they're constantly 393 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: constantly studying new things. 394 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: If you were to go to space with any of 395 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: your teammates, who are you taking on that ride with you? 396 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: Going to space? With any of my teammates, I will 397 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: say I do, like I do have conversations a lot 398 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: with with Kenny Moore. I just love his thought process. 399 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: I love his thought process. I feel like we would 400 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: kind of ask the same questions, but I think Kenny 401 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: would ask a question that I never would have thought 402 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: of that made me really dive deep. So I feel like, 403 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: definitely Kenny Moore, I just feel like we would kind 404 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 3: of be hand in hand on on the on our mind, 405 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 3: on our thought process, so I could be wrong. But 406 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I think Kenny Moore. 407 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: Like you guys have those like deep discussions. 408 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: Like yeah, I'll really sit there and not just about space, 409 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: just about anything. So I know he has that that 410 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: critical thinking, that that that diving deep, not just surface level. 411 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 3: He's like, let me just go see what's beneath the rug, all. 412 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: Right, let me bring it back to earth for just 413 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: a little bit longer. What do you like to do 414 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: here around Indianapolis? You get some time away with your wife? Congratulations, 415 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 2: By the way, what do you like to do just 416 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: around around town? 417 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: Last week we rode the ducks or the swans, they're 418 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: like the swans downtown I think the canal. Ye to 419 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: the canal, so that was pretty cool. I didn't know 420 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: Indy had that. Like. So we came in twenty twenty lockdown, 421 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 3: COVID twenty twenty one kind of still coming out of it, 422 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: so everybody still casts it. So after this past year, 423 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, things are kind of opening back up. Now, 424 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 3: things seem safe. You know, what does Indy have to offer? 425 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: So going downtown doing things like that, going to the canal, 426 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: that was really cool. There's this blues place downtown. I 427 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: forget what street it is on Georgia Street. Georgia Street, 428 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: I think it was Rhythm and Blues. It's like, it's 429 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: a lot of cool things in Indy that I didn't 430 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 3: have necessarily back home, just you know, small town going 431 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: to Madison. Madison had a lot of cool things. Indianapolis 432 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: has different things as well from Madison. You know, Madison 433 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: had the terrorist and that was the spot to go to. 434 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 3: And now here it's like I have a down town 435 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: to kind of it's like a big city, like you mentioned. 436 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 3: So it's a lot of cool things I do know 437 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: or not know. But I've been looking at what are 438 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: they call it speakeasy's or something like that. They usually 439 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 3: have like secret doors. I've seen a couple things on that. 440 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: So I just realized that Indy has a lot to offer. 441 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: So I'm excited to keep exploring. 442 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: I love it because, yeah, I mean, like you said, 443 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: you got here in the pandemic. You probably only had like, 444 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: you know, a year or two to really start getting 445 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: into that city. Yeah, yeah, last one for you. I 446 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: know people from Madison, people who went to Wisconsin, people 447 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: who are from Wisconsin are like they're so passionate about Madison, 448 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: like if we have anyone listening to this who is 449 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: a Badger or is from Wisconsin, they're gonna be like 450 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: I have, like this spot in Madison, this spot in Madison. 451 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: Give me your spots in Madison. Where are your favorite 452 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: joints to go to? 453 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 3: My favorite ones in Madison. I don't know if they 454 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: open back up. I know they closed down because of 455 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 3: the pandemic. But it was some room cafe. They had 456 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: the best French toast, like ever, like some room cafe 457 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: if you went to if you're living Madison, you went 458 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 3: to Madison, you know some room cafe, like you know, 459 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: some room cafe. Of course, the Terrace Rare Steakhouse. Oh 460 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: my Rare steakhouse. I've never had a steak I'm not 461 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: gonna lie now. Hyde Park before, when I was in Madison, 462 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: I thought, like, listen, Rare steakhouse, the char the flavor, 463 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: it was juicy. Hide Park here in Indianapolis. Is that's 464 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 3: a really good spot because I really have Madison lockdown. 465 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: I have Madison lockdown. As of now, all everyone who's 466 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: listening that's from Madison lives in Madison. Rare is still there. 467 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: I need to go to Hide a couple more times. 468 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm a kind of guy where if I go three 469 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: times and I get something different every time and it's 470 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 3: great all three times, that's the new spot. Like, that's 471 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: the spot. 472 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: This is going to be controversial no matter what you say. 473 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: What's your stake order? How do you like it done? 474 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: My stake order, I'll get a file A or I'll 475 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: get a it's either a file a. There's this Delmonico state, 476 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: it's a Dominico. I either get a filet or Delmonico. 477 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: But I've just started to get things medium. I've been 478 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: getting things medium well. Certain places, I've been trying medium. 479 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: It's a good balance because some places will definitely give 480 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: you the perfect medium. Some places it'll just be a 481 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 3: little little bit less than medium, and you're like, okay, 482 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: I can't I'm not there. I'm not there. But I 483 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: will say I did start off well done. I did 484 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: start off well done in high school, when I was little, 485 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: high school, even when I got to college. But that medium, 486 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: well medium range, that's that's perfect for me. 487 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: That's the least controversial answer you could give, honestly, Like 488 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: people get upset about this, man. 489 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: I know, once I started going to medium, well and medium, 490 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 3: I kind of started to see the difference. Okay, you 491 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 3: get well done, Yeah, you need a one, you need 492 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: a sauce, you get media medium. Well, the steak is 493 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: still juicy, the flavor is there. But then I just 494 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: I can't go all the way over on the left side. 495 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: That's I'm not at that capacity. I don't want to 496 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 3: say I never will be, because like I never thought 497 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: I would be going from well done to medium medium. Well, 498 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: but I'm not there yet. 499 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: You got a lot more steaks to eating. 500 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: I got a lot more steaks to eat it. 501 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: We have covered pumping gas, we've covered astronomy, we've covered sale, 502 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: and we've covered steak. I think we've covered about all 503 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: we can cover here. Jonathan, thanks for joining us here 504 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: on the Person Behind the Pads podcast. 505 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 3: No, thank you very much. I appreciate you having me 506 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: taking the time just to chop it up a little 507 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: bit about life.