WEBVTT - How Passports Work 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:13.560 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:20.200 There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Noel. This the Autumn 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:24.240 of Noel continues. Yeah, Autumn of Noel. That's a good 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:29.120 album title. I get royalties from it if anyone uses it. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:35.120 I think that we should entitle this, uh passports Colin 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.640 go to sleep now, man. I know this is one 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.400 of the ones that gets chalked up in the calm 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:47.199 of well, we've gotta explain everything. Yeah, it's okay. Oh yeah, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.040 I don't want to talk down before we start. But 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.800 it's not scentilating. We're supposed to be enticing people with 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.840 actually kind of chasing them off. Now, I think this 0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:00.680 files under like informational, helpful, informational podcast. There you go. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.560 We're not gonna blow your mind with like the coolest 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.520 stories on Earth, but you're going to know how to 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.360 get a passport. Yes you are, especially if you live 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.440 in the United States. Yeah. Um, all right, Well let's 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.360 start with the name Chuck. You know, there's a there's 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:19.520 a a great debate over what passport the word comes from. Yeah, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.240 it depends on whether you are British or a Francophile. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.720 In British it means quite literally what it sounds like. 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.200 It's passed. It allows passage through a port, like whereas 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.640 ship docks. You come in, you say, here are my papers, 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.119 this is a passport. Let me pass if your French 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.640 port p r t e means like gate or door, 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.880 so you would be allowed passage through like the gates 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.600 of a city. Never never been settled. No one knows 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.000 exactly which one is correct, but it's probably one of 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.920 those two that the word comes from. It's never been 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.200 settled because they could arguing about it. Yeah, there's like 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.840 it doesn't matter who um, but it does underscore the 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.840 fact that passports are quite old. Actually, yeah, you dug 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.080 up this article from the Guardian, the Brief History of 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.880 the Passport, which um, I thought it was kind of interesting. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:12.040 The uh back even in Biblical times they had things 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.960 that were like passports that obviously didn't call them passports, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:23.360 but in the Book of Nea Maiah very underrated it. Yeah, 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.920 of course I used to have them all memorized. You 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.920 had the Book of Nea Maiah. No, no, no, all 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.600 the books of the Bible memorized. I can still say 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.880 them up through a certain point nice, and then I 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.720 just forget and then start shaking. Is neo Maiah involved 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:42.040 included in what you can remember? Uh? No, I think 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.240 I go through like judges. Yeah, and then I forget 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.480 to do alphabetically. No, I just didn't order I could 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.840 start rattling him and off that. I don't think we 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.400 need to go there. Uh and Nea Maia though there 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.360 was a profit working as the Royal cup bearer and 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.160 basically we had to travel to Judah and said I 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.200 need some help king so I don't get uh, I 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.040 guess drawn and quartered, which they probably didn't even do 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.760 back then. Um, so can I get safe passage? And 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.120 that was sort of the earliest idea of a government 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.120 sort of agency saying, please allow this person to pass 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.640 into your town. No molest star, no molestar, don't touch 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.280 this guy. Just leave him alone. He's got my protection. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.600 I will bring the full force of my kingdom down 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.359 upon you. That's right. This actually ties in with our 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:35.760 episode on Diplomatic Community that they it's basically the same thing. Um. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.760 But so yeah, this idea of of getting some sort 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:43.320 of protection to travel abroad. Um, it's pretty old in 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.280 early medieval and then up until late medieval Europe, there 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:51.840 is this idea that people should have a freedom of movement. Right, 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.320 King John, the same guy from the Magna Carta he 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.720 he Um, was the first to at least in Europe, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.760 to enshrine the idea of freedom of movement. That you 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:05.160 should be able to leave your homeland, go somewhere for 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.200 business or pleasure or whatever, and then come back to 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.000 your homeland without any real problems. It shouldn't be a 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.320 big deal. You shouldn't be trapped in your homeline. You 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.560 shouldn't be excluded from your homeline. You should be able 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.080 to move back and forth. Yeah, And since then it's 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:22.039 been considered something of a universal human rights, this freedom 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.520 of movement. You think so, and in well, in fact, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.760 in the u N's Universal Declaration of Human Rights that 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.880 came after World War Two, it's enshrined in there as well. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.440 Freedom of movement. Pretty neat, It is pretty neat. But 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.120 part of that is this idea that you have some 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.760 sort of papers that says this is a citizen of 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.600 our country. Please give them, uh, you know, please treat 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.120 them well. And in fact, well I don't know about that, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.880 but at least I'm to come and go right there. Uh. 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.640 In fact, in our own US passports still something a 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.640 lot of people probably don't even read. There there in 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.680 lies the important statement that says that still, like you know, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.560 the please allow the citizen. I don't think it says please, 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.840 it says normal les star star. It's very important. Uh 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.440 and jolly old England. I thought this was pretty interesting. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:14.560 From the seventeen nine on the Office of the Secretary 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.560 of State took over passport issuance and um, the Home 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.960 Office right it just says the Office of Secretary of State. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.440 I think that's the Home Office, okay. Uh, and they 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.320 have every passport since sevent still in record. Yeah. It's 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.200 pretty awesome yeah, or frightening where you're coming from. I 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.240 saw another thing about British passports. Um, the photos have 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.440 evolved over time. Like it used to be, they were 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.720 just like kid, just make sure you're in the photo. 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.760 Like s Arthur Conan Doyle has a photo of himself 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:49.560 with his family and their dog on his old passport. Yeah. Um, 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.679 over time those we'll see. There's definitely strict regulations about 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.520 what you can and can't use for your passport photo. Yeah. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.839 And also in England, they used to um, British passports 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.920 had descriptions as well, so a lot of people didn't 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.960 like this. That would have you know, things like you know, 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.560 big nose, prominent, eight head, b D eyes, b D eyes. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.159 And eventually they're like, maybe we should just let the 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:21.040 photo do the talking, right. Um. So about the eighteen sixties, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.680 Europe said, you know what, to heck with this, this 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.480 is a pain. We don't want to check everybody's papers. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.720 Let's just do away with passports. And they were fine 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.320 with that. America went the exact opposite way. Um. Up 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.960 until about the Civil War, it was pretty easy to 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.160 come and go into the United States without any kind 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.360 of papers whatsoever. Um. But then apparently because they were 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.680 worried about um, well, they wanted to keep track of 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.080 who was coming into America and who was going. And 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.880 that's a really good way to do it, is right, 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.479 is to require documentation for that kind of international travel. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:01.200 So America started its passport requirements around then. And then finally, 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.800 when World War One came, everybody started using passports. Yeah. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.760 That seemed like the point where the whole world said, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.000 you know, let's really keep track of this. Yeah, and 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.200 they used to be pretty cumbersome. I think that the 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:17.600 United States passport was like an eleven by eighteen inch document. Yeah, 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.760 that's a biggie. Yeah. This was taken from a book 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.880 that you found called The Passport in America by Craig Robertson. 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.320 And this dude really did his homework. And um, there 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.920 was even a direct quote from somebody in the nineteenth 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.520 century that said, no pocket of any sex would tolerate them. No, 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.720 they were just too big. Like that was the yelp 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:43.720 review passport. I gave for this in my pocket. Nobody could. Um. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.440 So the came around in the United States dropped it 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.280 down to about the standard three by five, and that 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:54.480 became the trend around the world. Um, and uh, there's 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:59.280 your Everything interesting about passports is just coming on. That's 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.360 not true that England called There's Old Blue for a 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.760 long time. Yeah. Apparently it was very beloved. And then 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.640 they moved over to Burgundy and I was like, okay, 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:12.720 old Burgundy. I guess it's fine. Um, all right, should 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.600 we take a break here? Why not? All right, let's 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.880 take a break and we'll get back to the scintillating 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:43.080 details of passports. All right, we're back with passports. Welcome 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.640 back to passport talk. We should do a whole series 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.920 of it. Uh So in the US, if you are issued, um, 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:55.520 you're issued a passport from a number of places. Uh 0:08:55.880 --> 0:09:00.199 the state department. Well, the state department issues them. Well, yeah, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.280 they get routed through there for sure. Right, you can 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:06.040 apply in different places. So there's twenty seven passport agencies 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:09.840 now in all fifty states. But you don't have to 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:15.439 go to a passport agency. No, you don't unless really quickly. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.960 That's only about a week quicker. It depends though, we'll 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.319 talk about we'll get to that. But yeah, most people 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.160 just go to the post office. You can go the 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:28.439 post office, you can go to uh a court. Um, 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.400 there are other authorities around. If you look up that 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.320 you can apply for your passport. You can apply at home, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.760 like print it out yourself. What's the form d A 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:42.400 stroke eleven? I think that is that's the one. So yeah, 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.280 you and you can print it out at home. But 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.240 the thing is that you're gonna need to if it's 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.240 we should say, there's really two big circumstances that will 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.720 change all this stuff. If this is your first passport, 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.200 you can print it at home all day long. You're 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.679 gonna have to go somewhere to show up in person 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.200 to apply. They want to see you. They wanted to 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.199 verify you are who you are and smell. Yes, they 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:08.960 wanted to take in your your scent um. And uh 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.319 so your first passport you have to jump through a 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.400 little bit of hoops. We should say, however, this is 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.800 not difficult stuff. No, no, and there's really no excuse 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.080 whatsoever for you to not have a passport. No, it's 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.520 I think when you reach a certain age. Uh, it's 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:29.280 good to have just in case. It's good for ten 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:35.200 years if you're over eighteen and I think sixteen, Yeah, yeah, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.240 I think so. All right, Well, ten years is a 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.880 long time, and we'll get into trying to get it 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.120 one quick like. But you can save yourself a lot 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.360 of money and a lot of trouble and a lot 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.120 of stress if you just say, I'll go ahead and 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.080 get my passport in case I ever need to leave 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.520 the country in a hurry for fun. Uh. And cost 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:59.439 now is um for first time first timers. It's a 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.960 hundred and five dollars for an adult, hundred and five 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:08.240 for child. Uh. If you renew your passport, which is 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.560 a little bit of a misnumber because they say you 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.200 can't renew a passport. You can't renew it, and that 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.959 you keep your same passport you get a new one. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.040 But if you have a previous passport, you can't get 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:24.080 it renewed. It'll just be a new one and it's cheaper, right. Yeah. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.640 So the first time you go to apply for a passport, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.360 you're going to fill out the form what is it, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.680 the DS eleven D stroke eleven, and you're going to 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.920 take it down there with some proof of identity um, 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.480 and you are going to sign it in front of 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.840 the person at the post office or the clerk of 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.600 court wherever. You don't sign it at home, no, no, um. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:47.160 And then they're going to take all of your stuff 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.320 and then you will get a passport of the mail. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.840 After that, you can fill out a totally different form, 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.880 pay less money and just mail your old passport in 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.960 and they'll send you a new one, yeah, along with 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.520 the old one, which is kind of neat if you 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.120 like to keep sake. Yeah, what I can say is 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.760 don't tear pages out of your passport as keepsakes, because uh, 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.280 I know someone who ended up on a watch list 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:15.480 by doing that. Wow. Family member actually really, yeah, just 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.600 want They're like, hey, this was a special trip. Let 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.360 me keep this page big no no, yeah, apparently you 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:24.760 could be prosecuted mutilating your passport yescause how do they 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.000 put it? So don't worry. They'll mail you back your 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.800 old passport if you just want to hang on. And 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.839 and I don't know if it's changed. When I was 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.959 doing my traveling abroad in the nineties, I didn't even 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.080 get stamped in every country, so it's not like I 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.839 had a passport full of amazing memorable stamps. I think 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.880 about half the country has even bothered stamping it. They 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:46.800 may be more strict on it now. I don't know. Uh, 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.640 you always get stamps, I mean here there most of 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.240 the time, okay, but not always. Yeah, I've never figured 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.000 out what the deal is. Maybe they would or wouldn't 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.280 stamp it seems like it literally comes down to like, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.520 do I feel like doing this with my hand? Yeah, 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.400 that's seeing pressure I have as well. But I mean 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.720 that seems like a serious lack of yeah, you know, 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:11.960 uh standardization maybe sure, yeah, I guess, Yeah, there's there's 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:15.120 something wrong with that, I think. So if you want 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.520 to go abroad, um, you should do this a few 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.520 months ahead of time, just to take all the stress 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.640 out of it. You're gonna get your passport. It usually 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.360 takes a couple of weeks, but you don't want to 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:30.560 chance anything. No, no, UM, just normally just using all 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.400 the normal channels, going to the post office, not paying 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.760 for any kind of expedite service. The State Department estimates 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.320 you should get your passport from the time of your 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.439 application about four to six weeks. Yeah, but it never 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.000 takes that long. But again it shouldn't, but it could. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.880 It could. That's the worst case scenario, which is what 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.480 they tell you. So Uncle Chuck will tell you it'll 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.360 take a couple of weeks. But again, don't risk that. No. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.720 And there's there's actually a fairly recent history UM shows 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.680 us that you you really shouldn't risk it. UM. Back 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.760 in two thousand seven, something called the Western Hemisphere Travel 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.120 Initiative went into effect. And it used to be that 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.360 you could get to Canada and Mexico and parts of 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:15.079 the Caribbean with just your birth certificate and maybe a 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.960 driver's license. UM. That was totally fine. That kind of 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:24.000 traveled through North America. UH. In two thousand seven, they 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.120 said no, if you're traveling by air, you have to 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.600 have a passport, even if you're coming from Mexico or 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.680 Canada into the US. If you're traveling by lander by sea, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.880 you need to at least have a passport card, which 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.040 they created which is about half price. This caused a 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:43.320 huge run on passports in two thousand seven, and the 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.720 backlog suddenly went to like a fifteen week wait, which 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.720 was a real headache for a lot of people who 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.760 had waited assuming it was going to be four to 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.280 six weeks, and all of a sudden it was fifteen weeks. Well, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:57.760 if your travel was in that time, you're in big 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.680 trouble right um, and oh, the State Department is warning 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.760 we're about to get to the ten year anniversary of that. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.240 So if your passports coming up for renewal, you may 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.280 want to do it sooner than later because that same 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.720 backlog is going to come again as people have to 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.240 renew after ten years. So if you were a chump before, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.040 don't be a chump twice. Well they'll be prepared to 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.720 be a chump again, almost, I guess, or else run 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.240 out and do it right now. So the little card 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.280 is for first timer's is fifty five for adults and 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:32.000 forty for kids. Uh, which is a lot cheaper and 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.520 it fits in your wallet. And I guess if you 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:35.720 are in the U S, you're like, I like to 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.960 go to the Caribbean every now and then or Mexico 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.840 and that's about it. Um. Yeah, but that's just if 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.240 you're going by land or sea. Yeah, if you're flying, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.320 you have to have a passport every single time. You 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.640 should say that at least two more times. If you're flying, 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.200 you have to have a passport. All right, that's three. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.760 I think I think we got it across. Uh. But 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.880 like I said, no, you know yourself. You know what 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.400 kind of travel you'd like to do. If you just 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.320 say I like to go on the occasion cruise, Okay, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.120 see that gets your little card. Let's see travel that's covered. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.000 I don't want anybody getting the customs being like but 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.560 Josh and Chuck said, and that's ruining their vacation. No, 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.720 I think we've we've really hammered that. I'm I'm okay, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:21.640 I'm fine. No, yourself, know your travel style, get the card. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.359 If the card is good for you, get old Blue. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.960 Well we don't call it old blue. The British caller 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.720 is old blue though everything it was it burgundy, now 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:38.920 old Burgundy. Um, alright, so we're traveling abroad. By the way, 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.480 you have a baby, your baby's gotta have a passport. Yeah, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.400 and I thought there would be some like exemption, but no, 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.360 you gotta get your baby photographed. Any live human has 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.600 to have a passport, at least in the United States, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.760 but increasingly across the world, like passport laws are are 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:59.240 becoming more and more standardized, you know. All right, So 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.600 we talked about a lying in person OBVI, if it's 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.720 your first passport, you have to do that. We already 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:09.000 said that. Um, if you lost or had your passport stolen, 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.240 you have to go again in person. If your passport 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.359 is expired, was issued more than fifteen years ago, you 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.520 gotta go again. And by the way, the reason they 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.680 I think when you're a kid you have it only 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.720 last so long because you change the way you look more, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.600 which makes sense. Yeah, they have no idea what you're 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.560 going to grow up to look like. You could look 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.960 like a freak and they don't know. So was it 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.199 every five years if you're under age sixteen five years? 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.280 And hey, if you're getting multiple passports before the age 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:43.480 of fifteen, then lucky you kid. Uh. If your passport 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.600 expired was issued when you were under sixteen, you gotta 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.600 go in person. Or if your name has changed, then 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.879 you gotta go in person. Uh. If your name has 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.160 changed and you don't have any kind of legal document 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:56.399 showing change, you can send that in right. Yeah, you 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.920 can totally. Um, you can change your name just by 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.560 through the mail. Actually, as long as you have a 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:05.520 certified supporting document. Uh. Here's what I thought was interesting. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.359 To prove your identity. Um, if you don't have a 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.960 birth a certified birth certificate, you can actually still get 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.879 a passport through a letter of no record basically a 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.200 letter saying this dude doesn't have a certified birth certificate 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.880 for whatever reason. It starts out you're not gonna believe this, 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.119 but get this, this guy doesn't have a birth certificate. 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.359 I like that they take you know, there's an allowance 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:34.200 for that though, you know, yeah, I think it's necessary. Um. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.120 And this is this is different from like a hospital 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.920 birth certificate. The hospital actually reports the birth and then 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.080 the the birth is recorded with the city or the county. 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.160 That's the birth certificate you want. But if your city 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.520 or county lost it or whatever and can't find it, 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.000 then they should issue you a letter of no documentation. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.480 That in and of itself isn't going to be enough 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:59.000 for you to necessarily get a passport. Um, you also 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.520 want to find other stuff that supports the fact that 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.680 you were in fact born. This is a great list. 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:06.600 You know, a census record. Where are you going to 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:11.320 find that? A certificate of circumcision. Yeah, that's one who's 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.800 gonna lie about that? Yeah, show them the certificate and 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.600 then I guess if they need further proof, you could 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.960 the room they're like, please please step around and drop 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.359 your pants or no, they wouldn't do that. Baptismal certificate. Now, 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.240 if they do do that, you you should get a 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.359 free passport and maybe even like like they give you 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.400 a state, the state you're in, you just automatically own 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:39.000 it for that, uh, doctor's record of postnatal care. Um. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.320 A family Bible record. I've never heard of that. I 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.560 don't I didn't even underline that. You didn't know. That 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.879 seems illegitimate, Like a family like you could write anything 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.480 in a family Bible? Is that what that means? I think? 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:57.080 So that's some archaics baptismal certificates another one. Uh, then 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:58.520 you want to bring in some proof of I D, 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:00.879 like if your driver's license to her military I D, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.439 government I D. Basically, you want to load up on 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:08.800 anything you can, including a signature I D uh and 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.480 say please let me leave the country and come back right. 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.600 And there's actually a form called the D S slash 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:17.920 ten a, and it is a form that you can 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.080 have a blood relative who's older than It's my favorite thing, 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:25.560 um David saying like, yes, this person was born, I 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.639 remember when he or she was born because they're my 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:32.239 favorite niece or nephew. And um, they are who they 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.160 say they are. They don't even need to be related. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.479 I really thought it was a blood relative. Now you 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:38.320 just have to know you for two years. Oh that's 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.520 a different form. That's the form DS slash seventy one. Oh, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.280 I thought, what's yours again? DS slash ten a. Let's 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.480 get it, let's get it straight. But they both do 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.800 the same thing. One is a blood relative, and I 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.480 think it holds more weight. The D S seventy one 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.920 is where somebody who's knowing you for two years says 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.560 I vouched for this person. How long did you know Rob, 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.040 they've been and yeah, I could have vouched for I guess, 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.920 could he vouch for you? I guess yeah. I'm sure 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.080 we knew each other for longer than two years. But 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.280 I mean, think about it. That's I think that's like 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.240 the last resort. It's like this person has been posing 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.920 as this person for at least two years? Is what 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:21.400 the form ds slash seventy. He's my neighbor, h showed up. 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.480 I know that the older couple who lived in the 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.480 house just suddenly didn't live there anymore, and this man did. 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.959 He doesn't have an accent. That's weird, all right. So 0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.200 let's talk about the worst case scenario, which we were 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.640 talking about, which is, oh, no, I have to get 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:46.000 to uh Bruges in Belgium tomorrow. Okay, what do you do? Well, 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.360 it depends on why you have to get there. If 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.600 you have a family member who just fell down and 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:54.439 hit their head, and is that the death doorstep you 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.960 have what the state department considers to be a life 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:01.800 and death circumstance. Um, you and go there and say, hey, 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:05.119 this hospital and Bruges just sent me the facts. That's 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:10.879 my is my my brothers medical records and I have 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.280 to go and they will work with you. Um, if 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.560 you have. If you say, hey, I just thought of 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.639 going out of town at the last minute. Um, I 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:25.439 booked a trip for tomorrow for fun because I'm an idiot, right, 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.960 so I need a passport. They'll actually work with you. Um. 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.480 It's not gonna be fun. No, and and you're gonna 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:36.120 have to jump through hoops. But you can conceivably get 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.480 a passport within twenty four hours or less, sometimes the 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.280