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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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Speaker 1: There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Noel. This the Autumn

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Speaker 1: of Noel continues. Yeah, Autumn of Noel. That's a good

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Speaker 1: album title. I get royalties from it if anyone uses it.

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Speaker 1: I think that we should entitle this, uh passports Colin

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Speaker 1: go to sleep now, man. I know this is one

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Speaker 1: of the ones that gets chalked up in the calm

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Speaker 1: of well, we've gotta explain everything. Yeah, it's okay. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk down before we start. But

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Speaker 1: it's not scentilating. We're supposed to be enticing people with

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Speaker 1: actually kind of chasing them off. Now, I think this

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Speaker 1: files under like informational, helpful, informational podcast. There you go.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna blow your mind with like the coolest

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Speaker 1: stories on Earth, but you're going to know how to

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Speaker 1: get a passport. Yes you are, especially if you live

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Speaker 1: in the United States. Yeah. Um, all right, Well let's

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Speaker 1: start with the name Chuck. You know, there's a there's

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Speaker 1: a a great debate over what passport the word comes from. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it depends on whether you are British or a Francophile.

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Speaker 1: In British it means quite literally what it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: It's passed. It allows passage through a port, like whereas

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Speaker 1: ship docks. You come in, you say, here are my papers,

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Speaker 1: this is a passport. Let me pass if your French

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Speaker 1: port p r t e means like gate or door,

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Speaker 1: so you would be allowed passage through like the gates

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Speaker 1: of a city. Never never been settled. No one knows

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Speaker 1: exactly which one is correct, but it's probably one of

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Speaker 1: those two that the word comes from. It's never been

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Speaker 1: settled because they could arguing about it. Yeah, there's like

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who um, but it does underscore the

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Speaker 1: fact that passports are quite old. Actually, yeah, you dug

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Speaker 1: up this article from the Guardian, the Brief History of

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Speaker 1: the Passport, which um, I thought it was kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: The uh back even in Biblical times they had things

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Speaker 1: that were like passports that obviously didn't call them passports,

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Speaker 1: but in the Book of Nea Maiah very underrated it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course I used to have them all memorized. You

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Speaker 1: had the Book of Nea Maiah. No, no, no, all

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Speaker 1: the books of the Bible memorized. I can still say

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Speaker 1: them up through a certain point nice, and then I

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Speaker 1: just forget and then start shaking. Is neo Maiah involved

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Speaker 1: included in what you can remember? Uh? No, I think

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Speaker 1: to do alphabetically. No, I just didn't order I could

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Speaker 1: start rattling him and off that. I don't think we

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Speaker 1: need to go there. Uh and Nea Maia though there

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Speaker 1: was a profit working as the Royal cup bearer and

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Speaker 1: basically we had to travel to Judah and said I

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Speaker 1: need some help king so I don't get uh, I

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Speaker 1: guess drawn and quartered, which they probably didn't even do

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Speaker 1: back then. Um, so can I get safe passage? And

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Speaker 1: that was sort of the earliest idea of a government

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Speaker 1: sort of agency saying, please allow this person to pass

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Speaker 1: into your town. No molest star, no molestar, don't touch

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Speaker 1: this guy. Just leave him alone. He's got my protection.

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Speaker 1: I will bring the full force of my kingdom down

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Speaker 1: upon you. That's right. This actually ties in with our

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Speaker 1: episode on Diplomatic Community that they it's basically the same thing. Um.

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Speaker 1: But so yeah, this idea of of getting some sort

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Speaker 1: of protection to travel abroad. Um, it's pretty old in

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Speaker 1: is this idea that people should have a freedom of movement. Right,

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Speaker 1: King John, the same guy from the Magna Carta he

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Speaker 1: to enshrine the idea of freedom of movement. That you

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Speaker 1: been considered something of a universal human rights, this freedom

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Speaker 1: Freedom of movement. Pretty neat, It is pretty neat. But

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Speaker 1: In fact, in our own US passports still something a

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Speaker 1: From the seventeen nine on the Office of the Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State took over passport issuance and um, the Home

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Speaker 1: have every passport since sevent still in record. Yeah. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty awesome yeah, or frightening where you're coming from. I

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Speaker 1: saw another thing about British passports. Um, the photos have

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Speaker 1: over time those we'll see. There's definitely strict regulations about

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Speaker 1: And also in England, they used to um, British passports

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Speaker 1: And eventually they're like, maybe we should just let the

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Speaker 1: Let's just do away with passports. And they were fine

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Speaker 1: with that. America went the exact opposite way. Um. Up

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Speaker 1: is to require documentation for that kind of international travel.

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Speaker 1: United States passport was like an eleven by eighteen inch document. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: details of passports. All right, we're back with passports. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to passport talk. We should do a whole series

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Speaker 1: of it. Uh So in the US, if you are issued, um,

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Speaker 1: you're issued a passport from a number of places. Uh

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Speaker 1: the state department. Well, the state department issues them. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: top of all of the other feed you'll have to pay. Um.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break in Let's talk about

425
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Speaker 1: the all important passport photo after this. All right, Josh,

426
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: this is kind of fun too, because passport photos have

427
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: very specific requirements and you would think they would just

428
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: be common sense, but you know, some dummy might take

429
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 1: their own passport photo. What you can do with like

430
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: Beats headphones and a Braves hat and sunglasses on your

431
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: dumb dumb Especially if you mail that off and expect

432
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: your passport to come back, you're going to get a

433
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: letter of denial. Now. Instead, you have to be facing front.

434
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: You want it to be mostly a headshot. It has

435
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: to be a two inch by two inch photo. Um,

436
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: and you need a duplicate of it, and your head

437
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: has to take up one one in three eight inches

438
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: of this photo from the bottom of the gins to

439
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: the top of the head exactly. You don't want anything

440
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: covering your hair or your hair line. You don't want

441
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: to be wearing sunglasses. But if say, like you wear

442
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: a wig, or you wear glasses, or you wear something

443
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: that that is a separate feature on your face, but

444
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: you know you normally wear that, you would want to

445
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: wear that in the photo. Yeah. They want it to

446
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: look as much like you look every day. And that

447
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I wear my last chance garage at No.

448
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: You couldn't. You know, you would get to nine. But

449
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: I could say I wear this almost every day and

450
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: they'd say sorry, and they say, you're a grown man.

451
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: For God's sake, while you're wearing a baseball cap. It's

452
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: got to be in color these days. I didn't used

453
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: to have to be. And they prefer a neutral expression,

454
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: although you are allowed a slight smile, a little maybe

455
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: a Mona Lisa smile if you're going, like too to

456
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Speaker 1: Paris for the Tour de France Finale. So where it

457
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: is We'll say, Frances, all right, Uh, you might be

458
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: a little excited and smile a little bit, but keep

459
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: it to yourself, keep it tamped down forever. Um, or

460
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: you can if you don't want to do it yourself. Uh.

461
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: You know you're supposed to have a white background or

462
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: tan background. You gotta go to Kinko's or someplace, or

463
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: just google passport photos. And there's plenty of places that

464
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: aren't the photo booth. Yeah, which again, technically, as long

465
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: as it fits the criteria, they don't care if you

466
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: got it done in a photo booth as long as

467
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: you're following all of the standards. But it is a

468
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: lot easier for you to go to just the drug

469
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: store and say I need passport photos. The person taking

470
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: your picture should know what to do. We've already talked

471
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: about renewal, but that is DS stroke A T two

472
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: if you want to download that sucker. Uh. And again

473
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: it is cheaper to renew and as long as you

474
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: fit the other requirements, you can just send it, send

475
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: it right in and get it replaced, which is great, right. So, um,

476
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: if you were to tear open your pastor As of

477
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: two thousand six, in the United States, you would, Well,

478
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: first of all, you be arrested probably, which is nuts.

479
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: But if you go and read page six, it says

480
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: that it's property of the U. S. Government. You don't

481
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: own it, no, and that if a US authority requests

482
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: that you surrender it, you have to surrender it. That's right,

483
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in a second, because it's kind

484
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: of a big deal. But if you tore it up

485
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: and you would find um an r F I D

486
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 1: chip that makes your passport's considered an E passport and

487
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: that has all sorts of information as a duplicate of

488
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: your photo has biometric information about you, and uh, it

489
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: makes it a lot harder to travel under a fake

490
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: passport or forge a passport than it used to be.

491
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: And that's radio frequency identifications what that stands for. And

492
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: the U S gets a lot of credit for the

493
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: E passport, but it actually was introduced in Malaysia earlier.

494
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: And another big feature that makes it difficult to forge, well,

495
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: a lot of different features like special inks and different

496
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: types of illustrations and threatening and stuff like that, that

497
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: was actually introduced by Nicaragua. Yeah, there's apparently it's one

498
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: of the most difficult documents to forge in the world. Yeah,

499
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: I think it's become the standard. But they they're the

500
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: ones who started it. Actually they started the trend. Um

501
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: So I said that your passport is technically not yours.

502
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: It's basically on loan from the government. This really irks

503
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: a lot of people. There's um a couple of laws

504
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: that have become proposed recently where UM one is if

505
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: you owe the I R. S. Fifty dollars or more,

506
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: you can have your passport revoked. Another is if you

507
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: owe five thousand dollars or more in child support, you

508
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: can have your passport revoked. And another one is if

509
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: you have if you're accused of associating with terrorist organizations,

510
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: you can have your passport revoked. Well, all three of

511
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: those are meeting resist by people who say, hey, man,

512
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: like there are ways for you, the U. S. Government

513
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: to track all the people you need to track without

514
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: revoking passports. We don't like you having that power overtly

515
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: written down in law like this is a right that

516
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: dates back to the Magna Carta. Um so let's just

517
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: lay off of that. The U. S. Government says, shut up,

518
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: we own your passports and you, by the way. Um

519
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: So there is resistance to it, but I don't know

520
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: how how well it's being met. And this program of

521
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: revoking passports among um terrorists people associated with terrorist organizations.

522
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: Have you read the drone papers from the intercept yet?

523
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: So in it they talk about how that's becoming like

524
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: a thing, and it suggests that it's a way of

525
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: laying the groundwork for assassinations. Yeah, it's like your passports revoked,

526
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: your technically not assistant anymore, so you're open for assassination

527
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: overseas by like a drone strike or something. So yeah,

528
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: so a lot of people are like, let's just leave

529
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: the passports alone or save the passports out of this.

530
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: You guys are really taking this, this this right and

531
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: and provoking it based on like a hundred people in

532
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: the whole world and in the whole country. Yeah. Um,

533
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: so it's a it's a big thing. Interesting. Yeah, if

534
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: you lose your passport while you're abroad, it's no fun. Um.

535
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: And that's why they always recommend that you make copies

536
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: of your passport and leave with like a family member

537
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: at home that will help you get it back quicker

538
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: after you fill out DS stroke sixty four. Yeah, and

539
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: don't forget to make copies and keep them with you

540
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: as well, like setting in your luggage too. That's a

541
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: good idea. Uh. And I think what you can get

542
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: hooked up at the embassy right whatever country you're in. Yeah,

543
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: that's the first place i'd go if I was in trouble.

544
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: Oh sure, because that's what they do in the movies.

545
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: That's what Matt Damon always does. Did you see the

546
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: thing about camouflage passports. This woman named on a Umla

547
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: no no, what was her name? Donna Walker? Back in

548
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: the eighties, she came up with this idea of camouflage passports.

549
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: It's like a fake passport that somebody can have. That

550
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: is is it's for a made up country. That sounds uninteresting.

551
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: So if a terrorist is looking for Americans to kill

552
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: and you show them your East Team or or well

553
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: that's the country. Yeah, but like a made up passport

554
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: that looks real, they might just pass you by for

555
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, somebody else. And uh, it's a real thing.

556
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: They've been made an issue and people have made it

557
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: out of Kuwait. I think Europeans made it out of

558
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: Kuwait using camouflage passports. But it's also really wide open

559
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: for you know, fraud, in that kind of that sounds

560
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: argo esque, very argo esque. I'm from sea Land. Don't shoot, well,

561
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: that's a real place to see land, dud dude didn't

562
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: does that see theme? No? I can't. Oh, I think

563
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: that was hey man, maybe go ahead? Go ahead? Is

564
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: that where we are now? John looks like you're about well, Josh,

565
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: you said go ahead, So that listening mail I did.

566
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: I thought this was more passport stuff here about treating,

567
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: so you don't have anything else? They take it? I don't.

568
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some other nitty gritty stuff. But what

569
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: I would recommend as you read the how Stuff Works

570
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: article because that's where it all lives, and there are

571
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: some more details in there that we didn't reveal, and

572
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: you will find that by typing that word in the

573
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: search bar how stuff works dot com And I said,

574
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: search bar. Now it's time for the go ahead. All right,

575
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: all right, this is very special listener mail by the

576
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: way from David. Hey, guys, just listen to the Vestigil

577
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Organs episode, and for the first time ever, you hit

578
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: a flat note with me. Chuck was talking about receiving

579
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: some criticism for joking around about calling men dumb. Josh

580
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: seemed to dismiss the idea of anybody and eating to

581
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: raise the mantle of men. Uh. It is clear to

582
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: me that you were just being funny by deprecating maleness

583
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: to shine a light on how great women are. I've

584
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: always admired how thoughtful and gentleminely you guys are in

585
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: regards to women. So I felt a twinch of pain

586
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: at your apathy for the struggle of some men uh

587
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: with their gender. And we gotta say, David, we didn't

588
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: like you really opened their eyes here. I'm a male.

589
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: I am also gay and short and introverted and emotional insensitive.

590
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: Um it sounds like me, except I'm straight. As a child,

591
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: being mail meant that I couldn't play with the toys

592
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to. I had a rough, had to rough

593
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: alson play football with boys twice my size. As a teenager,

594
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: I sat on the sidelines while all my female friends

595
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: were going on dates and getting their first kisses from

596
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: the boys I secretly liked. Eventually grew out of those problems,

597
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: but even today I work in female dominated fields as

598
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: an administrative assistant. My bosses are generally men, and I

599
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: have missed out on a lot of opportunity because they

600
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: often prefer my prettier female colleagues. I've often wondered, UH,

601
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: if there's a part of their brain that is concerned

602
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: with how they would be perceived working with a male assistant,

603
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: Which a good point. Um. I've always wanted to be

604
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: a father, and when I looked into a few years

605
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: back I looked into it, I was dismayed with the

606
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: suspicion and ignorance many people hold for single men who

607
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: want to adopt, Uh, which is crazy. That's me talking.

608
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: And of course, up until recently, being male prevented me

609
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: from marrying the man I love. Being male has been

610
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: an obstacle I've had overcome to get everything I have

611
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: ever really wanted out of life. Perhaps being male has

612
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: made a lot of men's lives easier, but for me

613
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: it's been opposite. There's an increasingly wide gender disparity and

614
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: academic achievement. Uh. Some devoted fathers suffered from bias family

615
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: law that values female parents above male parents, and male

616
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: victims of rape and domestic abuse face a lack of

617
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: resources and an unsympathetic public. Man, this guy's hitting all

618
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: the points. Male privileged doesn't work for all men. I

619
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: know you didn't mean anything by the dumb guys comment

620
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: was perhaps for two straight guys, was seemingly very happy lives.

621
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: It isn't immediately apparent that other guys have you the

622
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: advantages and disadvantages of being mailed differently. I hate to

623
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: shine a light on this one small thing. These guys

624
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: are awesome and do a great job. Uh. Just as

625
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: you have alerted me to the complexities of hundreds of

626
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: topics in your podcast, I hope you will examine the

627
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: complexities of maleness and see that we cannot all be

628
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: painted with one wide privileged brush. This is probably one

629
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: of the best listener males we've ever gotten. Great, intelligent, uh, insightful,

630
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, change changed just my perspective on things like

631
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: I realized that by us saying, like, you know, us

632
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: taking the liberty of on behalf of all men, putting

633
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: down men in order to boost up women, that we

634
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: were that like that in and of itself is the

635
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: definition of male privilege, because we were just assuming that

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