1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Half. Now here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, And here we are. It's time for 6 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: mix shots from Cowboys training camp in Oxnard, California. Bill Jones, 7 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: along with the star of this show, Mickey Spagnola, and 8 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: yes you've here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Been up 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: to speed on a lot of things, but now we 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: get Mickey's perspective on what he's seen through. What is 11 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: nearly a full week out here in Oxtar? Does it 12 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: feel like nearly a full week? Yet? It's officially a 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: week today the end of today, it'll be on the 14 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: seventh day they rest there you go, I like that, 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it's it's been interesting. I didn't get out, 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: I didn't come out until Friday, and so I feel 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: like but it's been the busiest three days of my 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: year so far. Right, I mean, there is with this 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: schedule that they have here where they're working out in 20 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: the morning rather than in the in the evening. As 21 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: far as from a TV standpoint on CBS eleven, we 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: work until late as well. I have someone who wanted 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: to do a podcast in another part of the country. 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: I said, I gotta get my bearings. I gotta figure 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: this thing out first, because we're going from sun up 26 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: to past sundown. Right. No, absolutely, and especially you know, um, 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: if I get up early and I started doing my 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: morning radio reports on FAN, that's eight thirty here, but 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: ten thirty back home. And then but we're not complaining. No, 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: And and by the way, if you want to find 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: something to complain, it's sixty seven degrees right now. I 32 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: put my sweatshirt on because when I walked back to 33 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: my room, the wind was blowing, and I said, you know, 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: it's a little colder than I thought. And of all things, 35 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: it says rain starting in two minutes. There were some 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: sprinkles on me as I came from my hotel. Now, 37 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: I did this probably fifteen years ago, and I did 38 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: it in a sing song, like I thought, it never 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: rains in southern California, And my interns looked at me 40 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: like I was cross eyed, like well, what is he 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: talking about? Right? And that's I reminded myself of how old, 42 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: you're going to do that. No, I'm not sing song anyway, 43 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: but I thought it never rained in southern California. Just 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: sprinkles a little bit anyway. All right, So what are 45 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: your impressions? Just to get us started here, as the 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: team has the day off today, right, and they'll be 47 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: back for three straight practices Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Put on 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: the pads for the first time on Wednesday, And I'm 49 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: glad Bill pointed that out because I think we needed 50 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: to put a disclaimer out there on everything we say, 51 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: because everybody wants to know, what did you see, how's 52 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: this guy doing, how's that guy doing? You know, it's 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: no more than a mini camp practice or an OTA practice, helmet, 54 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: jersey shorts, minimal contact, so it's really hard to judge, 55 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: especially the offensive lineman. I think the easiest thing to 56 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: look at is the skill guys, the quarterbacks, the wide receivers, 57 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: the cornerback, safety's, linebackers, some in pass coverage. But as 58 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: for somebody said, well, is Michael Parsons ever gonna beat 59 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Leal Cownds in a pass rush? And it's like, all right, 60 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean Tyrann Smith, let's wait to the pads come 61 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: on before we start judging things. So I think the 62 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: probably the highlight of this first What did they have 63 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: four practices now? Is that right? Three practices Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Thursday, 64 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: Saturday Sunday. Right. Uh, Well, you know what, some people 65 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: can consider the conditioning test the practice because they didn't running, 66 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: and there there was that was why there's a day 67 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: off now. But Dak is moving awfully well. And I 68 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: thought these last two practices, uh, he was. He was 69 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: really good. He was good, uh throwing the ball, throwing 70 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: the ball on the run. Uh, being able to move 71 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: uh like he you know, they did one of the 72 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: scramble drills in team or seven on seven and um, 73 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: he had no problems moving whatsoever. So I think they're 74 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: out of the they're in the clear there with him. 75 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: And you were there when Jerry talked yes with the scribes. 76 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: After yes, he did the car wash with the TV 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: people yesterday. Jerry said that was probably the best practice 78 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: he had seen of Dak since he's been with the Cowboys. 79 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: And he was saying a lot and and I thought 80 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: both Saturdays, Saturday, that was Saturdays, And I thought Sundays 81 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: was every bit uh as good. And you know what 82 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: people need to understand, Bill. And by the way, it 83 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: is raining. Wow, it is Look at that not not hard, 84 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: not like we get in Texas or anything, but it's 85 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: a nice So you're saying fifteen years ago you did 86 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: see rain out here. I did. I think it was 87 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: two thousand. It was two thousand and four, two thousand 88 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: and five. One day kind of got delayed because it rains. 89 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: I would have been out here then. In fact, now 90 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: you talk about reminiscing, Uh, those were the good old days, 91 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: uh in two thousand and four or old five. Remember 92 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: when we interviewed Kevin Costner out here, Yes, yes, on 93 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: the set. Yeah, And that was the old the old 94 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: days of the Cowboys Channel. And we were filling a 95 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: whole lot of time for the Cowboys Channel back then. 96 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: And we did a fifteen minute interview with kes like 97 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Bill was sitting there, I was sitting there and Kevin 98 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: Costner in the middle of course, with the with the 99 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: practice field in the background. Yes, yeah, where we're not 100 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: in a tent or on like a TV set. Then yeah, absolutely. 101 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: But Dak just you know you can you can throw 102 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: the football. You never forget how to do that, right, 103 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: And and his mobility is fine, but then it's another 104 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: thing of getting acclimated to see in the field, like 105 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: seeing all if you've ever played quarterback, and I haven't, 106 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: right really, or maybe in a pickup game when they 107 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: needed somebody. You know, there's a lot of muck out there, right, 108 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: and there's a lot going on, and you got to 109 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: get used to sorting through when the play breaks down. 110 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: That's why I think the scramble drill that they do 111 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: is invaluable, because I don't know what the percentage of 112 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: plays that you call in the huddle actually come off 113 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: the way you designed him right there, you gotta add 114 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: lip sometimes and and he was doing that fine. He 115 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: was throwing the ball fine, he was hitting guys on 116 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: the run when the play broke down. So I think 117 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: that probably was the highlight of the first week of 118 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: training camp, along with just the fact that guys like 119 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith, Leale Collins, Zach Martin, Blake Jarwin or back 120 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: out there with the offense. And as Dak said that 121 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: one day, it's like the bands all back together again, 122 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and it certainly looked that way. And that's what this 123 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: Cowboy team needs from this offense if they're going to 124 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: succeed this year. All right, let's get into some of 125 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: the news of the last couple of days. Anyway, give us, 126 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: give us a status report on the potential signing of 127 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Malik Hooker, who, of course Mike McCarthy basically confirmed during 128 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: his press conference yesterday that he is out here and 129 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: yet he's going through the COVID protocols. Yes, and he 130 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: has not worked out for him yet. And remember I 131 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: think it was September twentieth, it was September twentieth he 132 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: ruptured his achilles, and Demonte Casey ruptured his achilles October fourth, 133 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: two weeks after, and Casey's back out here. But when 134 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: they brought in Hooker got all achilles injuries are yes, 135 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: they are not, especially when your age is a little 136 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: bit different too. But I'm glad to say that's as 137 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: is talking about his own experience. I'm glad to say 138 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm running now and actually played tennis a couple of 139 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: weeks ago, sou. But when they brought Hooker in in 140 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: the spring for the kind of a workout, my understanding 141 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: was he wasn't he wasn't ready physically. Uh, And you 142 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: remember he laughed and they didn't sign him and then 143 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: you know they had already signed Kazy and Keane O'Neil, so, uh, 144 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: he hasn't worked out for him yet because when he 145 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: got here, COVID nineteen protocol mandated that he quarantined for 146 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: five days. And my understanding is he's here, he's in 147 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: his room, but he can't go anywhere. He's got a 148 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: he's sequestered in his room. So I think the five 149 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: days are up tomorrow and that would be vaccinated or unvaccinated, 150 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: and so they can work him out. So they had 151 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: while they planned on signing them. They still need to 152 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: work him out and make sure the the achilles is 153 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: healed and he's physically ready to go. And I would 154 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: imagine they clear. They probably have seen video of him, 155 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: and they've got a pretty right idea, and I would 156 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: imagine that they've already kind of worked out the contract. 157 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: But it's what is it July twenty six today, and 158 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: you don't have a job. Your bargaining poler ain't real high, right, 159 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: especially with other teams getting ready to go to camp 160 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: and probably have their ninety man roster set. So so 161 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: you'll be interesting to see in my understanding on why 162 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't any reflection on what they scene from the 163 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: safety so far, it's just trying to bring in the 164 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: best talent that would be available at safety and let 165 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: them sort it out. And he's likely to be a 166 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: pup guy to start anyway. Yeah, there's a good chance 167 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: of that. And you and you, you would have until 168 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: you got to set your fifty three man roster to 169 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: either activate him off pup or you can leave him 170 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: on pup and get six a minimum of six weeks 171 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: into the season. And that's why some of the guys 172 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: they put on POP early, they just it's an insurance 173 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: policy against them being ready. Well, and that's the other 174 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: thing is with an Now we've got a seventeen game 175 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: regular season, right, okay, a guy coming off an injury 176 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: like that, keep him on pup and he's he's a 177 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: guy that even if it's not till mid season before 178 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: he is or the second half of the season before 179 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: he can contribute, it's going to be a veteran minimum deal. Yes, 180 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: And so that's not much to pay for insurance and 181 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: you might hit on something. Yeah, No, absolutely, And I 182 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: have no idea where he is physically. He may be 183 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: able to go out there right now and be just 184 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: like Casey running around like crazy right now, right, And 185 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: that's his nickname, Crazy Casey. Right when when I first 186 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: heard him say it, I thought he said crazy Cajun. 187 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, no, he's not from 188 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: New Orleans or Louisiana or anything. And then I looked 189 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: at where he was from, and he was from Kajoun, California. 190 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: Ka Still j Yeah, and uh, there's Jerry walking by 191 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: right now. He's going to do the Cairo Wash with 192 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: the radio stations that are here too. And we'll get 193 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: into Bill's interview with Jerry here in a moment. But 194 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: one of the guys that Bill gave you an example 195 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: of being on pup is Tristan Hill. Like he's out there, 196 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: he's working hard, but they know that they've got a 197 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a log jam at that defensive tackle position, 198 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: so they're not going to rush him. And if they 199 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: give him another six weeks when the season starts to 200 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: continue rehabing his acl, then they won't have a problem 201 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: with that, knowing that at some point somebody on the 202 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: roster is gonna get hurt and they're gonna open up 203 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: a spot and they could bring him back. So they 204 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of got him in their hip pocket right now. 205 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: And I thought the best thing coming out of Bike 206 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: McCarthy's press conference yesterday was what he said about Neville Gallimore. Yes, 207 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: because they he's been working with the first team and 208 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: they're expecting. It's one thing for us to sit here 209 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: and say, oh, yeah, he looks all right up there. 210 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: But when the coach gets overboard and praise of how 211 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: much stronger he is, and they've gave got some high 212 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,239 Speaker 1: hulks for Gallimore. And by the way Bill would mentioning Gallimore. 213 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: You know how the Cowboys do their offseason awards for 214 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: how hard guys work there, how much they increase some 215 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: of their stats, the things that they judge. He was 216 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: one of the guys on defense that got the award, 217 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: So that gives you an idea of how hard he 218 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: was working in the off season. And talking to Harold 219 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: Nash for a game day story in the preseason, he 220 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: was talking about Gallimore basically came to him and said, hey, 221 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I need to get better at this, this and this, 222 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: and he said that's always good when you see a 223 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: player do that. You can have the physical talents, but 224 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: you've got to improve strength, your weight, all those things. 225 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: And he was really high on Neville Gallimore and how 226 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: complicity was with working hard in the offseason. You know, 227 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that when you look at 228 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: his history. Of course, he's from Canada and he's a 229 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: late bloomer type as far as football goes. And so 230 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure when the Cowboys drafted him in the third round, 231 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: they were looking at upside with him as much as anything. 232 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: And so that's that's exciting to hear that he's got 233 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: that kind of work ethic and the want to to 234 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: be as good as he can be and not and 235 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: not to nothing against Oklahoma on how they played him, 236 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: but his natural position I think is a three technique 237 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: on a four man line and just to use his 238 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: speed his quickness there more than being a defensive end 239 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: in a three man line, which is what they were running. 240 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: They were running before Alex Grinch got there, and so 241 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: that would have been I remember if he played for 242 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Grinches let he wouldn't have it, so he would have 243 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: been in that yeah, you know, three man front. Which 244 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: so getting back to Tristan Hill, he's I watched his 245 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: workout yesterday. He is moving just fine. And the other 246 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: guy that was working out with him at the same 247 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: time was DeMarcus Lawrence. And I know Jerry when he 248 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: was asked about Lawrence and Amari Cooper, he said probably 249 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: after Arizona. Well for Lawrence that that's a team decision 250 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: because he could go out there in practice right now. 251 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: But you know this first week, as we talked about, 252 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: it's a mini camp practice. They don't need Lawrence out there. 253 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: He he better serves himself rehabbing at this point from 254 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: the yeah, and the same with Cooper exactly and he 255 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: and yesterday I finally saw Cooper out there on the 256 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: chords with Britt Brown. Uh, DeMarcus Lawrence his workout yesterday. 257 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I guarn darned tea that it was harder than any 258 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: practice guys went through yesterday because he was doing all 259 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: the little rehab stuff and had the chords on and 260 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: he's running hard. And uh Britt Brown uh is very 261 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: optimistic about when he'll be ready sooner than later. So 262 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: that all the PUP people you want to talk about, well, 263 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: let's see, um the other guys on PUP. Uh, you know, 264 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: the guys with the hamstring like Gholston. We got to 265 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: see on that one. But the guys that um that 266 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: they they put on there that they were recovering from 267 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: injury or whatever. I think they feel like they would 268 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: be ready uh to go uh whenever, whenever needed. They 269 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: just didn't want to push him. Off the top of 270 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: my head. I was trying to, um, remember the guys 271 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: that ended up on pop Let's see if I got 272 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: my and they're a list here and all of them 273 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: they're they're not concerned. They're just easing them in, right 274 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: and trying to be judicious about it. Yeah, and it's 275 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: not like, oh no, this guy's not gonna be ready. 276 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: He's not gonna be ready to go, but that they 277 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: feel good about um, about everybody. UM, like I mentioned Gholston, 278 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: will see Lawrence. I think they feel really good about um. 279 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: And then uh, Greg Zerline had back surgery. It's an 280 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: acl I saw him out there. He was rehabbing on 281 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: the chords and usually when you when you get to 282 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: the chords, then you're you're you're getting a lot closer. Uh. 283 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: We mentioned Cooper had the foot surgery. Uh, and Mitch 284 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: Hyatt uh, who I thought was probably further off. They've 285 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: got hopes that he'll be ready to go at some 286 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: point in training camp and they haven't given up on him. 287 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: The poor guy. You know, he was in the off season, 288 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: and some guys have it's their rehab is different for 289 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: an ACL than everybody else's, So I think those are 290 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: the guys. And then uh t J. Vassar was on Texas. Yeah, 291 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: he was on non football injury. So we'll see where 292 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: that one goes, all right, And they signed a cornerback 293 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: yesterday too. They did U Kyran Brown cornerback. Uh. He 294 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: was a signed by the Jets as a rookie free 295 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: agent in twenty nineteen and he only played in three 296 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: games uh that year, and then last year he spent 297 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: the whole year on pup with a quad a quad injury. 298 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: So you know, they had an open spot and they 299 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: just uh wanted to fill it. Got a lot of 300 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: activity going on here with a little bit of rain on. 301 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: We're on Radio Row, which is located right next to 302 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: where Mike McCarthy has his press conferences here on the 303 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: tennis courts overlooking the River Ridge playing fields here in Oxnard. 304 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone really anticipated rain drops at all, 305 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: but there there are tarps here, yes, And so they're 306 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: they've they're mobilizing yes, the other radio stations are putting 307 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: the tarps up to make sure. And it's not like 308 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: the rain is coming anywhere near inside the tent. Good, 309 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: we're in a tent. We're expecting a torrential downpour at 310 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: a matter of moments, I guess. And it's a fine 311 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: rain euipment they're yeah, I know they're not covering us 312 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: up now. They wouldn't worry about us, right, And since 313 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: Chris Beam is doing that, I don't know if we 314 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: are in position to take a break. Yes, we are. 315 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: And then when we come back here on mix Shots, 316 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: let's get into the car wash. Yes, Gerry Jones and 317 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: the car wash, which he's doing with the radio cruise now. 318 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: But we did it with the TV guys last night. 319 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when Mick Shots continues. 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All right, 358 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: we're back here on mixed Shots. What a day it 359 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: has already been, as the Big twelve is blown up today, 360 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: especially Oklahoma and Texas gave their notice and my phone 361 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: is blowing up because of that. And you know, Vicky, 362 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: it's I got here Friday, on Saturday and Sunday. I'm 363 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: telling you it's fourteen hour days out here, you know. 364 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: And with this new schedule, with with the with the 365 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: team practicing in the morning day and Saturday with the 366 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: opening ceremonies at ten so noon Dallas time. It had 367 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: to be out here an hour early for that because 368 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: there's a crowd too. I mean I got here eight 369 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: thirty or so. So I just grabbed I went by 370 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: a seven to eleven and I grabbed a bear claw. 371 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: A bear claws I have never had, have you ever 372 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: seen I've never even heard of them. I don't know 373 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: I had neither until I've picked it up, and I 374 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: love them. It looks good. I've been living off bear 375 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: claws here the last couple. That's your breakfast. You cannot 376 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: it's it is a to the we we park now 377 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: you you're staying on campus. Yeah, but we got to 378 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: walk all the way around though. We park three hundred 379 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: yards away. Yeah, okay, in the parking lot. And with 380 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: the fans here and everything, there was a full house 381 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: on Saturday. There's you could not even think about leaving 382 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: here and then to come back going to get lunch 383 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: or something like that. And so I lived off two 384 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: bear claws that day, and I did the same thing yesterday. 385 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: And uh, anyway, Breakfast of champions, that's it right there, 386 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: and water and bear claws is what I'm living on. 387 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: So it's rating harder by the way. Now, thing they 388 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: did with their with they put up the tarp to 389 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: protect the equipment that was next to the fence here. Uh, 390 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: Jerry did the car wash yesterday, and my understanding what 391 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: you guys were supposed to only have six minutes minutes 392 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: and I saw the clock like standing up there like 393 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: this the whole time. So how did he go with you? 394 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: And Jerry? Well, we were told in advance we get 395 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: six minutes each, and it was Mike Doucey Channel four 396 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: went first, Louis Scruggs Channel five went second, myself, CBS 397 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: eleven went third, and then Greg Simmons with k Satin 398 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: San Antonio was fourth, and then they saved the big 399 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: Cohuna Dale Hanson for fifth. I figured there's no way 400 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: that there's a six minute time limit when Dale Hanson 401 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: and there was his last interview with Jerry. Of course, 402 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: Dale's retiring in September second, So Doucy Stoptember September second. 403 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: All right, Doucy starts and I'm seeing David A. Brusie 404 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: give him time cues and he is ignoring every single 405 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: time I guarantee you do. He got hung up and 406 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: I could just barely hear from a distance. You know, 407 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: Troy k Mos out here yesterday, and so we weren't 408 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: able to get Troy ourselves because the way they're doing 409 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: the interviews after the practice is each station is set 410 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: up at a post and they bring a player over. 411 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: What Connor Williams was the last player, and that my 412 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: CBS eleven photographer Bill Ellis. He was tied up at 413 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: the far end of the practice field having to get 414 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: Connor Williams. And then we distribute the interviews to all 415 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: the stations have all the interviews. So anyway, then Troy's 416 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: doing an interviewer. So Doocy asked Troy about being a 417 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: GM and you know, being up in the tower with 418 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: Jerry and stuff, and so I'm from a distance, I'm 419 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: hearing him ask all these questions about Troy being a GEM, 420 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: and I can't hear anything Jerry's saying. J's faced the 421 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: other way, and so I'm going So that is why 422 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Doucy went well beyond six minutes on his because he 423 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: was just trying. He was trying to get that sound 424 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: bite from Jerry that he can tweet. I talked to 425 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: Doocy afterwards, right, Yeah, he's trying to get that sound 426 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: bite that he can tweet out, you know, and it 427 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: goes viral that. Yeah, there's a chance that Troy would 428 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: be the GiB of this steam and he never he 429 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: never got him to say it. Yeah right, and not 430 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, so uh so anyway, so I probably 431 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: went about nine minutes with him something like that, and 432 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: I went past the stop sign. Also, Uh, he's great talking, 433 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, he just as you know, he just absolutely 434 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: loves training camp, you know, and he and you saw 435 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: it in his opening press conference, the emotion that he 436 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: had when he gets sentimental about the past years here 437 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 1: and so forth. Um, you know, he actually with me 438 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: he talked to it's the same kind of feelings that 439 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: he had. I mean, that's how much it means to 440 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: him when his granddaughter got married on Saturday on Saturday. Yeah, 441 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: and uh, you know it means so much to him, 442 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: and um, you know, and WHENI gets criticized for the 443 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: twenty five years without a Super Bowl, that's when it 444 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: the emotions, you know, get going both ways on right 445 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So, uh, it's it's great talking to him, 446 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: and I wish that we had we knew in advance 447 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: we've got ten minutes with him, because then you don't 448 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: because as a as an interviewer, when you're you know 449 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: that Jerry goes along with his answers to begin with okay, 450 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: and so you have to parse it down to your 451 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: questions to there are certain topics and so I think 452 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: all of us are the same. There's five or six 453 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: questions that we have, but you don't really know that 454 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: you have time to follow up with the exactly know, 455 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: when he says something about his granddaughter getting married, you 456 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: would like and then even more emotion would come out 457 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: to be able to follow up, But you got four 458 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: more questions you need to ask, you know. So that's 459 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: that's one of them. And it's hard to it's hard 460 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: to cut him off too, by the way to you know, 461 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: like interrupt or not interrupt, but you know when it's 462 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: kind of you go, but you can't see on live TV, 463 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: and the since these were taped right now live TV, 464 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: you would be more prone to cut him off because 465 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: you know the clock's running yeay, yeah, and you gotta 466 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: you gotta get it done in six if there's a 467 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: shot clock on you right so you were watching. Uh. Uh, 468 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: I watched the interview with Dale, Okay, I want to 469 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: hear that. And and Dale had all these props ready 470 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: to go, and uh, he wanted to bring up Switzer 471 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: and you know ninety four. And as a matter of fact, 472 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: they were doing Dale's you know, top twenty moments with 473 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboy or just hit in his history and number 474 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: six was the interview with Barry Switzer and ninety four 475 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: at training camp. Uh. We were still in Austin at 476 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: at the at the college there. And as matter of fact, 477 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: I remember it explicitly because I was sitting on the 478 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: ground underneath their camera too. I wanted to monitor what 479 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: was going to go on. Right, Well, we knew in 480 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: advance the fireworks and I and I when I warre 481 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: and Dale remembered it when he did the deal for 482 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: number six that I warmed him that Switzer's coming after you, 483 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: and he mentioned it. And the reason that we knew 484 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: in advance that there would be sparks flying was because 485 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: Dale was on Norm Hitska's radio show right morning and 486 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: made comments about the assistant coaches right that the assistant 487 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: coaches were going to revolt, that they all wanted the 488 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: head coaching job, and they weren't cooperating, which I don't 489 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: know about how far that went, but anyway, and so Switzer, 490 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: Switzer got all excited and he started punching Dale in 491 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: the arm like yeah, you know you gotta do this, 492 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, you know you say that and then and 493 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: then Switzer and Dale never never said it, never reported it, 494 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: but Switzer got on this thing that he heard that 495 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: Dale reported that Tony Casillas had a brain tumor, and 496 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: that got Dale mad because he did not do that. 497 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: And then Switzer just started punching him harder and finally, finally, uh, 498 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: Dale goes, hey, that's starting to hurt a little bit, right, 499 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: And and they continued for a while, and they they 500 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: blew by their break, right, and at some point Larry 501 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: Lacewall was there kind of next to me and Larry 502 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: it didn't get on the air, but Larry finally said, guys, guys, 503 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: that's enough, just like that, right, And so Dale, when 504 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: they were talking about it, Dale brought out a pillow 505 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: and put it on his shoulder so Jerry could poke 506 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: him like that. When they were talking about it again, 507 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I was wondering how he's going to work. Yeah, it 508 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: was pretty It was pretty funny. And then he had 509 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: something that this long scroll of paper and he started 510 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: and roll it and started reading the things that you know, 511 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: he needed to Jerry needed to explain. And he got 512 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: to about the second one and then Jerry ripped the 513 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: paper and fickt or like he had something there, and 514 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: he goes, well, let me read this about you now, 515 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: right and uh And at the end, uh, they were 516 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: they were basically, you know, telling each other how much 517 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: they enjoyed each other's company and and and Dale wanted 518 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: to Jerry to explicitly point out that he quit. He 519 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: didn't get fired from the radio show, but he was 520 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna get fired by Ron Chapman. And they told Jerry 521 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: told that story, and he said, so I helped Chapman out, 522 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, I got got rid of you. And he goes, no, 523 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: I quit before you got rid of me. And it 524 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: was pretty funny. So I worked Hanson into my interview 525 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: with Jerry too, Did you really? I said, A normal 526 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: retirement age for a lot of people, sixty five. I hear, 527 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: there's a sportscaster there's retiring at the age of seventy three. 528 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: But you're never retiring. Are you, And of course Jerry 529 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: said that you know, when you don't work, you're not 530 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna you know, what do you what's sort of retire 531 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: from when you're right, you know, basically saying when you 532 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: love what you do and it doesn't feel like work 533 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: to you. So after after he said that, I say, well, 534 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: they're the sportscaster're retiring and working twenty five. That's a 535 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: pretty good dig, right. So yeah, so and so he's 536 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: he's in the booth next to us. Um, I think 537 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: he's with the is it is the ticket next? Yeah? 538 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: I think so, Uh, he's doing them. What if he 539 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: thinks this is whatever radio station riches there, referee and 540 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: dark and he might have just thought he was supposed 541 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: to talk to us and we got a we got 542 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: another mic right there you go. If he walked in 543 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: all right, But yeah, he does that every training camp 544 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: and it's it's usually at night and they do it live. 545 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: But because of all the protocols, they had to do 546 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: it this way. Well, I was just pleased that we 547 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: were able to sit side by side. We were separated 548 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: by about six feet whatever. But all the other one 549 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: on one interviews that the TV stations are doing out 550 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: here we're doing having to do it over the fence, right, 551 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: which is just like all of the interviews are being 552 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: done over the fence where you're separated by six feet 553 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: or so. Yeah, and you know it's kind of working. 554 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Just have to remain flexible. And look, we see what's 555 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: happening right now out there with the variant, and so precautions, precautions, precautions. 556 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: And Frank Reich, the Indianapolis coach, sat a head coach, 557 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: tested positive. He's fully vaccinated, and so they're just getting 558 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: started with their camp and so he has to have 559 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: two negative tests over a seventy two hour period in 560 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: order to be able to be back with the team. Now, 561 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: how do you think he contracted COVID nineteen if he's vaccinated, 562 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: somebody that's not vaccinated passed it on to him. Okay, yeah, 563 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: don't get me started. And that's why all of us 564 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: in the media have to be fully vaccinated before we 565 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: can get entrance here. Well, I saw that the NFL 566 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: came out and it was maybe a month ago. It 567 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: basically said if the media member wasn't vaccinated, they weren't 568 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: allowing to the press box to cover the game. Well, 569 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: and I saw a report yesterday that they're requiring it, 570 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: that it hasn't been announced yet. The edict hasn't come 571 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: down yet, but for network broadcasters, they can't go into 572 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 1: the network booth unless they're fully vaccinated. Yeah, yeah, so 573 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: that's coming down. You know. I thought it was interesting 574 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of times when these guys are doing 575 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: the interviews here, they're they're being asked if they're vaccinated. 576 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: Some guys, you know, kind of beat around the bush. 577 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: They won't say. Michael Gallup was asked it yesterday and 578 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: he just came right out and said, yeah, I'm vaccinated. 579 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: And they were asking them all a lot of people 580 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: are a little worried. You know, what was your incentive 581 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated? He said, you know, after games, I 582 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: like to be able to hang with my family and friends. 583 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: And he goes to me, that was incentive enough for 584 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: me to get vaccinated, and what it didn't mention why 585 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to be safe or whatever it was. The 586 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: protocols out there for unvaccinated players should be. It seems 587 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: enough for guys to go, I'm going to get vaccinated, 588 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: right because the guys around here that aren't vaccinated, they 589 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: got masks on all the time, and they're not supposed 590 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: to eat in the cafeteria. No. Now, I will say this, 591 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: I understand, and Mike McCarthy's kind of talked about a 592 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: little bit. I understand. I don't know if hesitancy is 593 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: the right word now, but there are Everyone has their 594 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: own situations in fact, and I'll just go ahead and 595 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: say with me, I had COVID in February, and I 596 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: was told by my doctor to wait to get vaccinated 597 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: for three months, which took me to June, okay, And 598 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: then I decided myself, I want to get a physical, okay, 599 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 1: because I was due because I didn't get physical last year. 600 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure everything's good, you know. And 601 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: so it was it was first of July before I 602 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: was able to get vaccinated, and so I got the 603 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: Johnson and Johnson because it was a one shot and 604 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: then to go right. And so that's why I went 605 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: with the Jay and Jay was so I would be 606 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated. And I got an antibodi's test at the 607 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: time of my physical, and my antibody's test shows that 608 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: they didn't explain what the number meant, but it was 609 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: I have a lot of antibodies. Oh well, good, yeah, 610 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: so you're doubly right. And that's what And a doctor 611 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: friend of mine who who's actually on a board advising 612 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: corporations around the country about it, that he was encouraging me, Yes, 613 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: you need to get vaccinated. Okay, great, I'm I'm all 614 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: for it. Whatever. He told me, wait three months and 615 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: then get the J and J and U. And so 616 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: there could be players like these players who are who 617 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: got vaccinated late. You know, they're maybe checking out, they're 618 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: making sure that they get the right advice and Jerry 619 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: and Jerry pointed out that they had a lot of 620 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: guys in what he called the pipeline where maybe they 621 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: were got the first one, they're waiting for the second one, 622 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: or maybe they got the second one but waiting for 623 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: the two week period. Afterwards, Michael Parson said that he 624 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: is in that. Yeah, I think he's fully vaccinated as 625 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: up tomorrow. And so so my physician friend told me, 626 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: as old as you are, you better get it as 627 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: soon as you can and try it. 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Welcome back to Mix Shots, 682 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: Bill Chilves with Mickey Spagnola, our final segment. We're gonna 683 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: take it another nineteen minutes or so. Here and by 684 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: the way, we told the story about I think it 685 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: was two thousand and five when Kevin Costner was a 686 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: visitor to Cowboys training camp and we had him on 687 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: one of our TV shows on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 688 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: Back on the Old Cowboys Channel, before the NFL network started. 689 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: And Jake ben Waugh, who is an avid listener to 690 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: all of the podcasts here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Uh, 691 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: he found the video on YouTube of our interviews and 692 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: he tweeted it at us. He is, Jake is at 693 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: run Emmett Run on Twitter and he's got some seal 694 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: shots of us interviewing Kevin Costner from sixteen years ago. 695 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: So we got another tweet out and the Guide tweeted, 696 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: it's better weather here in Scotland. Want to trade place? 697 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: That's a good one. No, we're good. We're good. We're 698 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: good where we are, all right? Other impressions from the 699 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: early days of camp. Let's start, how about Connor Williams, 700 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: who got some work, who's been getting some work at center, 701 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: you know when he came out of Texas. Of course 702 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: he played left tackle at Texas and because of the 703 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: short arms, was moving inside in the NFL. But there 704 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: are a lot of people, there are at least some 705 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: draft people experts quote unquote who thought that his best 706 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: position in the NFL might eventually be center. Yeah, and 707 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: he said there was only when he got worked out 708 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: before the draft. There was only a couple of teams 709 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: that suggested that maybe he was a guard center. He 710 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: said most of his workouts before the draft were tackle guard, 711 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: but it always kind of came up, and you know, 712 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of years they kind of dabbled with it, 713 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: but not really hardly in the off season. Well this year, now, 714 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: this is the first time I've actually seen him take 715 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: like snaps in practice, and yesterday was a little more 716 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: extensive as he was taking the second uh, the second 717 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 1: team snaps at center. Uh the day before, he skied 718 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: a shotgun snap over the quarterbacks. Say that didn't keep 719 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: from playing. That's right by golly, because they had been 720 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: using uh, Matt Forniak Uh, the Nebraska guy they drafted, 721 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: I think it was in the sixth round. Uh. He 722 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: had played guard, he had played all the things, but 723 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: he played a little bit of center there. So they 724 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: decided instead of him working at guard, they would work 725 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: him at center. But uh, you know, Connor said, basically, 726 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, you just make himself more useful. And so 727 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: what they're looking for, and it's one of the spots 728 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: on this team that you know, has to get decided. 729 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: Who's the backup center. They're fine with Tyler Biadish as 730 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: the starting center. And and to me, and I've said 731 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 1: this repeatedly, had he not gotten hurt last year, that 732 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: center job would have been him his the rest of 733 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: the way after he took over for Joe Looney who 734 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: sprayed the knee. Uh so they need a backup and uh, 735 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: you know the only other guy that they had been 736 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: looking working as as a backup center? Um wash, where's 737 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: the guy's name? It was Jones, Braylon Jones, free agent 738 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: and he at least played center last year, right because 739 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: other than be Idish on the roster right now, no 740 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: one played center in the NFL last year on the roster. Uh. 741 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: So again, um, we'll see how where this goes. But 742 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: he seems willing. Uh, they seem serious about it. But 743 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: at some point, you know, if if they don't think 744 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: that works out, and Farniac's not ready, you know, they're 745 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: gonna have to find somebody. So it appears that they 746 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: view Connor Williams as a better uh backup center, even 747 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: though he's starting at guard right now than Connor McGovern 748 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: would be as Yes, that's the way it looks. And 749 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: and and now here's the other thing with Connor McGovern. 750 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: To me, if if if ty Niseki or Terrence Steele 751 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: or Josh Ball don't show that they're good enough to 752 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: be the swing tackle, the backup swing tackle that the 753 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys have struggled with for how many years, you think, 754 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: four or five? If something happens to one of those starters, 755 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,240 Speaker 1: Zach Martin goes out to tackle, Connor McGovern goes to guard, 756 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's got to be in their mind 757 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: because I think if that's the case, Connor McGovern can 758 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: play guard better than the backup can play tackle. And 759 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: I think you have to make that move with Martin, 760 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: and you don't mess around like they did last year. 761 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: You know, but because we hated to see what happened 762 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: last year with the offensive line, but because of what 763 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: happened with the offensive line, their depth is better on 764 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: the offensive line now than it has been in all right, 765 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: And as those guys got those snaps last and and 766 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: and by the way, Terrence Deal was another guy that 767 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 1: won one of the offseason workout awards, and and they're 768 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: they're given him a chance on that backup job. Also, 769 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: Brandon Knight, who started the other games at mostly at 770 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: left tackle, he's been working at guard. So they're hoping 771 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: the struggles Steal with last year benefited him to the 772 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: point where he's that much better. See, you can't have 773 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: a first round pick at every spot on the offensive 774 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: line and especially the backup. You've got to have some 775 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: developmental guys. And if Steel can do better than he 776 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: did last year, then it'll be interest. And that's what 777 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: we haven't seen until the pads come on, and that's 778 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: that you know, that build that first preseason game, the 779 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. I think we're going to see 780 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: a whole lot of these young guys playing because they've 781 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: got the extra preseason game and those games are going 782 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: to be important to guys like Steele and Josh Ball 783 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe they tell Connor Williams, even though 784 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: you're the starter, we're gonna give you some snaps at center. 785 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: But to bury the lead. We just buried the lead 786 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. And the lead on the offensive 787 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: line is that Tyron Smith and Lyle Collins look good, 788 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: look really good. As a matter of fact, I think 789 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: there was maybe the day before Randy Gregory got got 790 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 1: a pass rush on Tyrn yesterday, he didn't get past 791 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Tyring. I think got serious and 792 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: locked him up. But I'll tell you what about tyring 793 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: that I saw after Saturday's practice. He and Micah Parsons 794 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: stayed out afterwards, and he was giving them tips on 795 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: rushing the quarterback good and showing him the things that 796 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: he's picked up on how he's stopped other guys. And 797 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: one of the things he was showing them was Michael 798 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: was trying to use this spin move to go inside 799 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: and he was spinning before there was contact, and he 800 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: was basically explaining to him, don't spin before you make 801 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: contact because the tackles just sitting there waiting for you 802 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: to come to him. Right, you got to hit him 803 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: and then spin. And then he was showing him how 804 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: to use his hands to get the hands off so 805 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: he can complete his spin. Okay, so now let's talk 806 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: about Michael Parsons. I love him, and I told you 807 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 1: I love him as a player. I also love him 808 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: as a guy to talk to. I think he's going 809 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: to be the best interview on the team. How about 810 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: you love him as a chess player. Because there were 811 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: twenty hard knocks people showing or taping Michael Parsons and 812 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: Ben d Nucci playing chess. It was the whole crew. Well, 813 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: they probably didn't have anything else to do, right, So 814 00:47:53,840 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: everybody was there but Parsons so far. Remember what I told. 815 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: Somebody asked us, well, where's he going to play? And 816 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: I said, on the field. They'll find a spot for him. Okay, 817 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: So that's my question for you. All Right, the Marcus 818 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: Lawrence is all right, knock on wood, he's gonna be 819 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: ready to go. Right, What is the inventory of edge 820 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: rushers that are going to be contributing during this regular 821 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 1: season for this team? Okay, we start with the Marcus 822 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Randy Gregory correct, and Michael Parsons is right 823 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: in that mix. Well, Terrell Basham is playing one of 824 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: the defensive ends. So here's what they're doing with him, 825 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: Bill when they and how about this, They've got some 826 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: formations that they've got three linebackers on the field at 827 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: the same time that we didn't see last year. Right, 828 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: So when the three guys are out there, Jalen Smith's 829 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: in the middle, Layton Vanderish is on the week side, 830 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons on the strong side, and when he's on 831 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: the strong side, he's lining up on the line of 832 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: scrimmage like head up with the tight end. So depending 833 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: what the formation is, he's either running with the tight 834 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: end or they're blitzing the strong side linebacker off the edge. 835 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 1: He can get there quit and he's awfully, awfully good. 836 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to not just assume that he's 837 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: covering the tight end and no matter how many wide 838 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: receivers around the sit in other words, instead of the 839 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: offense dictating, there you what the defense can do to 840 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: try to defend them. This I think dan Quinn's putting 841 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: a defense together because he says he talks about this 842 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: defense is not the defense that they ran in Atlanta Rights. 843 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 1: He's taken this personnel and he will be able to 844 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,959 Speaker 1: dictate defensively what's gonna happen on it. He's gonna match 845 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: up like I've got the personnel, and that's what he said. 846 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: Somebody asked him, how are you gonna get all these 847 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: guys on the field. He goes, well, we're gonna have 848 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: different matchups. So that's one of them. Now at this point, 849 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: since it's young, early in camp, when they go to 850 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: second team nickel, then Michael Parsons the middle linebacker, and 851 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: somebody said, well, yeah, he rushed from the defensive tackle spot. Well, 852 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: he was the middle linebacker in the gap like they've 853 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: used Jalen Smith before. It right, and he rushed up 854 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 1: the middle. But he the other day, I don't know 855 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: if you were here yet or not, they were doing 856 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: that scramble drill and he was one of the He 857 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: might have been lined up in the slot as the 858 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: strong side guy. I don't remember where he started, but 859 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: they scrambled and ceedee. Lamb was kind of dilly dowling 860 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and then he takes off 861 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: right and he goes deep and he was almost to 862 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: the end zone and right behind him, step for step, 863 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: was Michael Parsons, And I'm going, are you kidding me? 864 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 1: There's number one against number one? And they were running 865 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: step by step together. It was it was a thing 866 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: to see. So they've used him on the nickel in 867 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: the middle, and then at times when they do the 868 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: individual drills, instead of Michael working with the linebackers covering 869 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 1: tight ends or running backs, he's over there with the 870 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: defensive lineman working on his pass rush drills. So he's 871 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: as versatile as anybody I've seen, and he kind of 872 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing too. By the way, right right, 873 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: And that's that's where I'm so impressed with him. Even 874 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: you can see it in his interviews. Why I say 875 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: that he's eventually going to be the best interview on 876 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: the team. He gives thoughtful answers, he listens to your questions, 877 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: and he's he's very real in his yeah, and in 878 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: the way he responds to questions and stuff. Yeah. So 879 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: so they're they're going to figure out how to get 880 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: him on the field. It's interesting. Uh, with the exception 881 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: of Dak, you know, he's Dak is Dak. Okay, the 882 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: rest of the team, I think my two favorite players 883 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: on this team are as far as what their potential 884 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: is are Michael Parsons in cd L. Yeah absolutely, And 885 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 1: they were first round draft rights and you know, and 886 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: CD should have been higher if people are going to 887 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: find that out right, those two players give me more 888 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: excitement about this team than anybody anybody else. And part 889 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: of that is how young they are, you know, in 890 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: the in the futures all in front of them. And 891 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: I don't I don't mean this disparagingly, well, maybe I do. 892 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: The people that are like when they drafted Parsons at 893 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,439 Speaker 1: number twelve, well, you can't take a linebacker that high. 894 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: You needed this, this or that. And it's like, you 895 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: didn't just take a linebacker, you took one of those 896 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: guys that comes along very not very off finger right. Yeah. 897 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: And I remember one day it might have been us. 898 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: I said something when somebody said, now, it wouldn't because 899 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: you guys wouldn't have said that. They said, take a linebacker. 900 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 1: I said, he's not a linebacker. They go, but you 901 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: can get a linebacker. Later, I said, what if he's 902 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor? Just like that? And they go, oh, you're 903 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: gonna go that fire And I go, okay, I get it, 904 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 1: But what if he is. I'm not saying that instantly, 905 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: but boy, he's got some talent now and it's showed 906 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: out here Cede Lamb in his second year. And let's 907 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: remember ced didn't have an off season last year, and 908 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 1: he didn't have a preseason, and look what he did. 909 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 1: Now he's got all this under his belt a second 910 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: year doing the offseason workouts. Better watch out for him. 911 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: And they're moving him around too, and you know it's 912 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: it's like, let's take the honey badger Tyre Matthew. What 913 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: position does he play? We don't know. Yeah right, I 914 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 1: mean you'll list him on the depth chart maybe as 915 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 1: a safety all over the fields. It's like it's almost 916 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: like Paula Mallo. I remember talking to Bill Parcels about him, 917 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: and Parcels goes, yeah, you know, I don't know where 918 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: he plays. He says, I don't know that he knows 919 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: where he plays. He just out there making plays. And 920 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: I think that's what you're gonna see with this guy. Right. Okay, 921 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: so in our last five and it's what are you 922 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 1: looking forward to this week? And especially as they put 923 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: on the pads on Wednesday? Yeah. Now, now when they 924 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 1: put the pads on, I get a better idea of 925 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: what's going on on the offensive line and defensive line, 926 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 1: a much better idea when those guys can can use 927 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: their pads. And then the other thing is, you know, 928 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,879 Speaker 1: wide receivers are really brave going over the middle when 929 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: they know they're not getting hit. Right. Well, okay, let's 930 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: see if you continue that, you know, or and will 931 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,720 Speaker 1: you hang onto the ball? Uh? Those are the things 932 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: that to me always stand out. Now from a physical standpoint, 933 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 1: I got no problem with the three offensive linemen that 934 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: are back with the Tyrant Smith Lelle Collins and Zach Martin. 935 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: Those guys physically are ready to go. Blake Jarwin physically, 936 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: he's running well, he's ready to go, you know. And 937 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: and a guy that really showed up, maybe it was 938 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: yesterday day before, Dalton Schultz. Yesterday we saw what he 939 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 1: did the year. You know, sixty three catches. They're not 940 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: many tight ends not named Witten in Cowboy history that 941 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: have had sixty three catches in a season. Uh. And 942 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: then but a lot of that, a lot of that 943 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: was dump off stuff, right. But what we were seeing 944 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: yesterday with some downfield stuff right exactly and making nice 945 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: catches too. So uh, yeah, be interesting to see if 946 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: the younger wide receivers, you know, I think Noah Brown, uh, 947 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson so far have had really nice camps. Um, 948 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: Johnny Dixon is interesting. Uh. And then yesterday, uh it 949 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: was Malik Turner. I don't know much about Malik Turner, 950 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: but he had a nice day two, number seventeen. So 951 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: we'll see if that stuff continue. About the draft pick Hoko, Yes, 952 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: and he's had a couple really nice catches too. So uh, 953 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: here's here's the part. I think I'm looking forward to 954 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: the most because I think defensively, there's gonna be a 955 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: lot of competitions, not only for a starting job, just 956 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,760 Speaker 1: to make the team. And I think when the pads 957 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: come on, then we're going to see the competition increase. 958 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: And that's the best part of training camp. And I 959 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: know Mike McCarthy keeps talking about the competition, the competition, 960 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: and I think when the pads come on that that 961 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: we're going to see that. And it's mainly I mean, 962 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: we can sit here, assuming they're hopefully there are no injuries, 963 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: we could put We could pretty much tell you who's 964 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: gonna make the team. On the offensive side of the ball, 965 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: oh absolutely, hey, but defense, it's all up in the era. Yeah, 966 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: I think I think the only sure things DeMarcus Laurence 967 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: starts at left defensive end, Randy Gregory starts at the right, 968 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs probably one of your starting corners. The other 969 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: starting corner right now is Anthony Brown, but he better 970 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,399 Speaker 1: not have two bad days in a row before. Calvin Joseph. Yeah, 971 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: and he starting to show up just a little bit, 972 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,399 Speaker 1: and they've actually moved him in the slot a little bit, 973 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: but mostly outside. Jordan Lewis has been in the slot. 974 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 1: Maurice Kennedy has been in the slot, so yeah, we'll 975 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: see how that works out. The safety position, let's go. 976 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, if they're looking at Malik Hooker, then they're 977 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: saying okay, kind of like the other guys, but let's 978 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: see what this guy can do. Donovan Wilson maybe because 979 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: he started last year ten games, but I think defensively 980 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be competition. Offensively, the main competition would be 981 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: for the backup swing tackle, backup center, and then backup quarterback. 982 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and we can't tell you who's the 983 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,959 Speaker 1: backup quarterback here. I can't know. And then Cooper Rush 984 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: didn't do himself any favor. He had back spasms on Saturday, 985 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: he didn't practice, and any misspractice again yesterday. I'm told 986 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,479 Speaker 1: it's it's not that serious that he should be back soon. 987 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: So we'll see if he's soon backup quarterback on this 988 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: roster right now, but Ben d Nucci has been getting 989 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps as with the second team kind 990 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: of sharing him with Garrett Gilbert. And when I asked 991 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: McCarthy the question about the competition at backup quarterback, the 992 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: only one he ended up talking about was Ben d Nucci. 993 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: So he talked about how he got stronger. If if 994 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 1: Ben da Nucci is your backup quarterback, how many quarterbacks 995 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: are going to be on this roster, Well, they'll be three, 996 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: and they will keep their eyes open on the free 997 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: agent wire for an experienced quarterback to come free, because 998 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: everyone the quarterbacks on the roster now not named Dak 999 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: Prescott have a combination a combined two NFL starts, and 1000 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: that scares me because that backup quarterback needs experience to 1001 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: be able to play that position. And so you never 1002 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: know with all those new quarterbacks that got drafted, somebody 1003 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna be its gonna be released. So keep an 1004 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: eye on They'll keep an eye on it, and you 1005 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: keep an eye on it too, not you, okay them? Folks? 1006 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: All right? Are we done? I think I think we 1007 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 1: kind of used hour. Right, how about that? That was fun? 1008 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: All right? So maybe the next time they have got 1009 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: a day off that there's an opening, which would be Friday, Friday, 1010 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: we'll have another mix shots. All right, as long as 1011 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: you're still here. I'm still here Friday, all right until 1012 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: next Monday. Sounds good though. All right? That does it 1013 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: for mix shots and we will see you again next time. 1014 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1015 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,439 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.