WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Rating The Running Backs 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.240 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:20.080 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:30.560 Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training Camp in Hawnsnard, California. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:37.599 Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:43.760 and welcome into Talking Cowboys, our second week here in Oxnard, California, 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:47.280 and the second full week of Cowboys training camp. Rob 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.280 Phillips hosting for the great Bill Jones. We'll try to 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.120 press forward without our fearless leader for the next couple 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.640 of weeks. We should have pushed that chair there with 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.160 the headset sitting there. Yes, this was Bill Joe a 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.360 Channel eleven shirt. Yeah right, Yeah. Bill is headed back 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.679 to Dallas. Did a great job hosting our broadcast of 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:11.320 the Blue White Scrimmage yesterday Sunday afternoon. Cowboys kind of 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.840 the super Bowl of Oxnard. The biggest on field attraction. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:17.720 I think a little bit of tackling, a little bit 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:21.119 of live contact stuff. And let's get into that. Let's 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.320 get into that, Let's get into just the first week 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.600 of camp. Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us welcome. I'll tell 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.640 you what it's a good thing. We had Bill there 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.920 for that. Yeah, that was that was like that was 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.240 a marathon. It was like a juggling act and he 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.000 does it so well. Yeah. Absolutely, I want to say 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.400 the excuse me, I'll get this out. The MVP of 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.840 this thing was my guy to my left. He did 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.960 a really nice job of not only gathering really nice 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.520 interviews but coming with some big information. That's what Sideline 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.520 reporters were supposed to do right there, and this guy 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.360 did it very well. I really appreciate the efforts of 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.080 everybody on that and appreciate everybody out there that watched. 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.400 You know, it's kind of a it's a practice until 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.600 you get to the end, and then once you get 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.280 to the end, now it's kind of like it's like 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.840 you've had dessert after you've had the prime rib. You know, 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.320 you're kind of like, okay. But yeah, as you said, Rob, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.160 a lot of really good things for a lot of 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.680 young guys, some guys stepping up that you know, and 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.720 I give you credit for Jordan Chun by the way, 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.440 you've been kind of tapping that bell as we've been along. Eh, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.600 don't you know, don't sleep on this guy. Don't sleep 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.200 on Jordan Chunn, I thought yesterday helped himself. And again 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.040 in our eyes, they probably already knew. Mickey already probably knew. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.760 But Jordan Chun, I thought, did a really nice job. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.560 And it's good to see Mike White have a little 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.200 success moving the team. That's line one for this coach. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.200 Moved the team, finished drives. He was able to do 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:44.239 that yesterday. You're referring to that play it out period 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.600 at the end, very end where it's it is finally 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.919 kind of a scrimmage they do tackle. It was about 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.000 a ten play series with Mike White running the offense, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:57.360 Jordan Chun, Mike Webber getting carries at the running back position, 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.200 and just an opportunity for the Cowboys coaching staff to 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.560 evaluate those young guys leading into the first preseason game 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.440 where those guys will probably get the majority of the reps. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.280 It was almost like they forgot they were supposed to tackle. Yeah. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.680 Tag touched up and it's like, oh, no, I gotta 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.760 put about the ground and three guys had had a 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:17.920 shot to wrap him up. Yeah, and he acted like 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.560 he was playing Minnesota Golden Gophers, is bouncing off guys 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.240 and getting it. But really a nice physical run there. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.200 You know, not much at the point of attack for 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.120 him to really make, but just kept his feet moving 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.480 and was able to work his way out of that. Yeah, 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.200 I thought we got a good look at those young 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.840 running backs. Jerry Jones was when I got him after 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.600 the scrimmage. He was impressed with the running backs and 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.880 he wasn't trying. And I know what people are thinking, Oh, 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:48.000 he's just saying that negotiating and he knows better. But 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.720 he liked what he saw from Pollard, just how fluid 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.280 he is, how he can do so many different things. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.400 You know. Obviously Chun stood out, and then the way 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.360 Alfred Morris had a couple nice runs, and he went 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.760 into how the coaches really like how he adapts to 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.840 what they want to do in the running game. And 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.120 again he wasn't sitting here. Okay, we got Alfred Morris, zeke, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.280 you better show up. That's not what he was doing. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.320 And then he mentioned Webber too, So yeah, I thought 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.719 the young running backs did a nice job. The young 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:25.480 quarterbacks continue to improve, I think as as the training 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.960 camp goes around. And then the one guy Jerry couldn't 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:33.200 wait to get to, uh was Joe Jackson hit that hit. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:38.359 He made Wow, who's that on? It was Weber Webber. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.120 They're gonna throw a screen, right. The screen gets set 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.320 up nicely coming out the gate. Kelln. Moore's like, okay, 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.479 we're gonna start the scrimmage. We're not gonna run thirty 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.000 seven or thirty eight off the edge. No, we're gonna 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.080 sit there and throw you a screen. They get it 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.960 set up and it looked like to me, Webber it 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:58.480 was like going, I'm going we get blockers, blockers out 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.440 of front, and all of a sudden, here comes this 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.280 two hundred and eighty five pound man on a fifteen 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.839 yard run like he's like he's Xavier Woods playing in 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.680 the middle of the field. It just I think when 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.159 when weeb it got up he kind of adjusted his 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.800 face mask as him like, okay, who just hit me? 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.680 You know? But this is practice, right they did, and 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.560 he just came out of nowhere. But they said, I'm 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.960 trying to remember who told me. I think it was Jason, 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.240 he said that's what we or mate was Jerry one 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.719 of the two Sorry, uh he said that's what we 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.200 saw on tape before the draft that he played to 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.880 the whistle and the effort was always great, and he 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.680 just kept never gave up on a play, I mean, 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.080 because you weren't think about it where that screen was 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:47.039 fifty s from He's on an upfield rush, yeah, Mitch Hyatt, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.719 And Mitch Hyatt does a nice job of saying, you know, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.400 don't let anybody beat you across your face. So Hyatt 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.200 walls him out, and then all of a sudden it 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.800 turns into, oh wait, there's a screen on their side, 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.960 and in Hyatt kind of soaked down my job. Joe 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.359 Joe Jackson's like, no, you haven't. And he starts on 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.960 a sprint seriously, I mean he is covering some ground 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.760 like a linebacker or safety. Yeah. And and by the 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.920 time that Webber's trying to kind of cut back, boom 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.160 right there, laid him out and he did. He kind 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.080 of kind of had to adjust his helmet once he 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.880 got up big ten football again, you know, And and 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:27.000 and what does Garrett always say, you know, when you 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.440 you can go through camp camp, camp, practice, Well, but 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.159 you gotta make plays. And he made a play and 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.120 somebody noticed it. And you know what, he's a guy 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.520 to me that's easy to get lost in this mix 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.000 right now of sixteen defensive Lineman because to my recollection, 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.400 he was the one guy when the rookies first came 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.279 in we didn't talk to Joe Jackson. And they've got 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.919 so many young guys in that group, right, it's hard 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.680 to really sit, uh siphon through all of them, right 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.000 and figure out who's you know, who's ahead of who 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.279 in in this you know, first through third string right now. 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:01.920 But that's that's a guy. That's the type of thing 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.800 that kind of separates yourself a little bit deep. When 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.479 he puts the pads on, Yeah, boy, he looks the part. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:11.080 He's two eight. And Marinelli and we mentioned this before 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.760 I'm talking Cowboys. Marinelli told me he goes, you know, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.360 and and at times I see the possibility of moving 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.080 him there inside. That's that's that's the that should be 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.679 the point right there is because when we get into 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.320 these preseason games and we're trying like heck to get 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.400 through it, and it's final drives and maybe somebody's trying 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.520 to win the game on you, you know, you're playing defense, 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.080 there's gonna be half to be a rotation of guys 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.720 because the starters, as we all know, don't play. It's 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.440 gonna be it's gonna be guys like Joe Jackson and 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.000 Dorian's Armstrong and those guys trying to kill a game 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.240 at the end to get off the field. And the 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.520 fact that he can maybe play. We haven't seen him 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.760 play the three technique or the undertackle, but like Mickey says, 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:53.200 good nugget from him. Rod Marinelli. Rod Marinelli again thought 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.000 he was shocked that he was still on the board 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.200 when they got picked. That's what the first thing. Astro MARIONI, man, 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.400 this Miami kid, you know, he goes, hey, goes. I 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.320 am shocked that he was still on the board when 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.080 we picked. So let's see if something like this can 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.840 elevate him and kind of get him, you know, going 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.640 in camp and some of the practices and stuff, because 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.760 he's been kind of quiet. Another guy, I thought, and 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.440 I don't know if you noticed this, but this is 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.920 just from scouts ice stuff. I noticed Donovan Wilson playing 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:25.239 in ten play scrimmage better. He hasn't had the safety 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:29.480 from Texas A and M He hasn't had the opportunity 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.439 to really show that he can play with range, he 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.320 can cover. He you know, he just hasn't had enough 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.400 of that look. So sometimes you get lost with these safeties. 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:43.600 You're saying, we're all noticing Xavier Woods. Yeah, we're all noticing, uh, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:48.720 Jeff Heath or Cavon Frazier or Thompson. We're noticing those guys, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.960 but we're not you know, you're not seeing People are 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.480 asking about don Wilson. But he got an opportunity. There 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.120 were two or three times. I'll tell you one time, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.400 and I this is impressive on his part. Uh. They 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.079 were they were in a situation where the ball is 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.520 gonna go to the outside, They're gonna run chun to 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.920 the outside, and all of a sudden he's having to 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.680 play the point of attack because he's the down safety. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.240 So now he's taken on Mitch Hyatt at the point 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:16.000 of attack, keeping his outside arm free in order to 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.920 leverage to get Nate Hill or Hall excuse me inside 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.240 so he can make the tackle. But he comes off 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:23.920 to help in the town and then he makes a 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.240 tackle on his own in space. You know, those are 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.920 the kinds of things that you need to show that 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.079 that kind of gives me. He's like, Oh, there's Donovan Wilson. 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.400 That's what he looks like. Oh, I saw that at 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.840 Texas A and m It kind of reminds you that 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.959 these guys are out here trying to make this team. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.840 And like Mickey said, those are types of plays that 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.760 the coaches put in their mind and say, Okay, maybe 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:45.920 he could do this in San Francisco, maybe he could 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.320 do this against the Rams. Those kinds of things. Yeah. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.760 Did I hear you say Xavier Woods? Yeah? Everybody hear that? Ye? 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.640 All right, he's a safety, right, and he's playing awfully 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:01.160 well here. And number three, and he's not making thirteen 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:05.199 million dollars a year. Oh yes, it always goes back 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.360 to that, doesn't it. I just couldn't you gotta spay? Look, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.000 and you know what, Mickey saw an opportunity to kick 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.040 me while But no, but that's but that's you know, 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:18.720 that's that's actually you. I everybody else, No, Earl Thomas. 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.760 Oh trust me, Mickey, I'm all about the players. You 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.240 don't have to apologize to me. That's actually a well 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.880 time point on two fronts. Because number one, he's making 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.800 plays out here, right, he is. Obviously he's showing some 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:34.559 ball hawking, center fielding type stuff outre Yes. Now he 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.240 he benefit on that interception yesterday, He benefited from a 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.400 great play on the ball by Cheeto, right, uh, deflecting 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.320 that pass and Dak trying to fit in a tight 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.160 throw down the seam to Jason to yeah, and and 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.599 you know coming up with that deflection for an interception. 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.640 To your point, though, so much discussion in camp about 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.120 money finances, how are you gonna sign all these guys 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.520 to long term deals. That's why you are judicious with 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.920 who you spend money on in free agency. That's fair 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.000 because you got to resign Dak Prescott, Amari Cooper and 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.440 maybe at some point you resign as Ekiel Elliott. When 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.280 that will be, we don't we don't know. You have 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.400 to pick your positions that our priorities, and then you 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.520 spend your money on those positions and you just try 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.480 to survive at the other one. You got to have 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:24.720 a learn one or well you love the player. On 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:29.440 Webber's bounce out touchdown, I think Gary Brown almost pulled 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.520 a hamstring. Oh yeah, because he went running after him 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:36.240 and all everybody else saw what happened, and when he 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.520 came coming back on the sideline, Gary Brown, everybody was 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.280 giving him grief. It's like, oh, coach, did yeah, did 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.559 you think you were young again? Or something because Garry 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.000 he started pulled. Garry Brown is fun to watch dry 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.439 practice because he sits right behind the line and when 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.560 the ball would when the handoff, and especially with Zeke's 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.880 and it opens up, he his hands immediately go up 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.280 for touchdown. I mean you'll see him. He it's like 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.800 the players even really fit, and he's got his hands 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.880 on it. He knows, he knows what's gonna happen right there. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.920 But yeah, really nice job by by all those remics. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.559 Rob can can I go? Micky had a great point 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.480 about and I don't know if you want to say 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.000 that point or not, but since we're talking about Zekel, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.960 we can go to Zeke. Yeah. If I'm sorry, don't 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.120 mean to hijack what you're doing right there. But Micky 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.800 made a really really good point during the broadcast. I said, heck, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.000 two hours, we finally we got something out of this. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.400 But but the but the August sixth date that people 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.400 have been kind of pushing out there and saying, Okay, 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.880 this is a Zeke's not gonna miss this date, which 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.160 is tomorrow. But you you talked to some people in 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.440 high places that can explain that. Yeah, And and I 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.520 just had a I had a question because I think 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.679 we just assume we've read it right. And I was 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.160 right in there with it. I thought, okay, that's a rule. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.920 That's a rule. And I said, well, you know where 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.560 we're getting close to it. Let me clarify this just 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.240 to make sure we're right. And then I was told, no, 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:01.240 you're not right. Uh that because he has Zeke has 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:04.720 a fifth year, they picked up his fifth year option, 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.920 then that rule doesn't apply. And what was they were 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.560 trying to do with the CBA when they came up 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.920 with this idea of four year contracts for guys for 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.000 first rounders and then a fifth year option if you 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.680 didn't pick up that fifth year option. They didn't want 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.520 guys going into their fourth year saying, oh, I'm in 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.520 a precarious situation. I'm just gonna hold outright and try 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.400 to get a contract right. And so they basically said, okay, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.600 you can do that, but if you do it past 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.840 August six, then you're still in your fourth year. But 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:41.360 because the Cowboys picked up his fifth year, this doesn't 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:48.640 apply now. And then you know, and even anyway, they're 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.480 gonna get this done sure, and so it wouldn't matter 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.280 because you wouldn't never be going into the final year 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.120 of his contract. But it was good to hear. And 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.240 all I did was asked a question. It wasn't like, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.280 you know, something trepid reporting, but sometimes you just got 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.080 to ask a question. You never know what the answer 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.640 is gonna got a good answer, and the answer was, Yeah, 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.280 this doesn't apply to Zeke because he has a fifth 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.559 because they've already accepted the fifth year tender right him 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.560 that now all bets are off of him about an 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.920 August sixth day. It sounds like it has to be 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.200 guys going into their last There you go, that's that's 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.120 great right there it is. But honestly, I don't think 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.520 he would have ever cared about it anyway, because not 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.200 only is it two years left on the deal, there's 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.960 always the option the Cowboys could franchise him in the future. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.640 I'm just thinking hypothetically and just kick the can way 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.320 down the road. So would he really care about in 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.520 a crude season when he's looking for a new deal anyway? 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:41.480 I mean, when have I never got it this done? Yeah? 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.680 That that's that's a that's a direct quote. That is 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.360 a direct quote from Jerry on was it Saturday and 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.520 he said it. Yeah, you spoke to him for a 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.480 long time one on one yesterday to me, they told 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.160 him we had a lot of time to kill him. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.760 Did He went on the power play and he got 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.200 a couple you know, I sat down with you and 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.440 Bill MOUSI mean, we got forty five and it's left 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.000 in the show practices. You know what. It reminded me. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.840 It reminded me of back. I believe it was two 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:11.440 thousand and two. The Cowboys did a scrimmage with the Texans. Yea, 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.240 and we did it at Old robertson stage. Yeah, it 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:15.920 was a night game. It was a night game. And 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.600 we finished the scrimmage, they cut something out and the broadcast, 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.680 if I remember correct, when we were supposed to go 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.680 to ten and the scrimmage finished at about nine ten. Yeah, 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.480 we forre fifty minutes to kill. It was short and 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.360 I'm supposed to go down on the sideline after we 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:36.160 finished the broadcast or the scrimmage part of it and 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.600 do interviews. And they told me we got fifty minutes 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.400 to kill. See if you can get Jerry. So I 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:47.760 get Jerry and I told him we have fifty minutes 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.960 killed here. I said, can you can you just stay 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.000 with me as long as you can? You know? Oh? Yeah. 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.520 So I basically had my hand around his waist almost, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.240 and I said, when I let go, that means you 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.800 can go, but you got to stay with me. And 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.680 God bless him. He talked and talked, and then he 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:11.440 brought in Bob McNair, oh, the owner of the Texans, right, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.320 and we killed some time now, so this reminding when 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.160 they told me we had all this time, I said, well, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:19.200 I'm gonna milk it. And then out of the corner 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.240 of my eye I could I could see people start 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.640 getting close, and I said, oh, yeah, they're interested in 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.640 my interview. And then I realized they were waiting to 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.160 talk to and I got done and somebody said, could 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.880 you have asked him another question? I said, hey, wait 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.120 your turn. Yeah. Well, peeling back the curtain, I had 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.280 Christmas Shard sitt in my chair for a few minutes 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.560 to take over. Yeah, after you got right in a point, 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.600 I ever got done. Kill me tell you this though, 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.960 I was over where this is what really peeling back 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.040 to curtain. Our blue marker on the boards out, I 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.120 went and got a new one, ran into Christopher Shard. 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:50.920 He says, hey, he goes, I'm sorry. I had to 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.920 go on you there and said he apologized to us. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.760 Chris apologized to us, and he sat there the whole 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.360 time and watched the interview. He sat there, watched the 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.000 whole thing, head hearing much the whole thing, and he 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:03.880 finally looked at this, he goes, I gotta go watch. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.600 He turned to me and looked, pointed at his watched 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.840 that I gotta get out of here. So sorry, but 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.399 he today to apologize. He said, Hey, can we do 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:12.639 it another time? Though? Can we do it? I say, coach, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.520 anytime we talk, We'll love to talk. We should have 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.640 got him today. Yeah, yeah, but I'll have to sacee 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.280 up to him. Sorry, I talked to you out of 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.800 your interview. He was interested, he was listening to you. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:27.040 He was just like everyone else. Anytime the Cowboys owner 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.560 speaks one on one, let him go R. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.359 Let's let's take a break early and when we come back, 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.639 maybe touch a little bit more on Jerry's meeting with 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.880 you and with media, Zeke contracts, all that stuff. Let's 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.040 just get that out of the way and we can 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.679 circle back to some things we liked in practice and 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.359 in the first week of training camp, just kind of 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.320 take a larger view of things when we come back 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.600 on Talking Cowboys has been helping Cowboys fans see better 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.720 since nineteen seventy two. He said, they don't miss a 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.240 moment on the field. 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