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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Ed Warder work twenty six years at ESPN, Recognized by

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Speaker 2: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He's been covering the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys since nineteen eighty nine, and this season he's covering

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Speaker 2: the Boys for WFAA TV. Ed Werder, Cowboy Insider, joining

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Speaker 2: us on the program. What was your first impression of

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Speaker 2: Jerry Jones?

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Speaker 3: My first impression of Jerry Jones was formed in nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty nine when I first moved to Dallas Metroplex to

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Speaker 3: cover the Cowboys for the fort Worst Star Telegram. He

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Speaker 3: was definitely a huge personality. I didn't have a lot

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Speaker 3: to compare it to at the time. I've been covering

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Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos and Pat Bolin was obviously maintained a

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Speaker 3: different profile. But yeah, it was clear that, you know,

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Speaker 3: Jerry was somebody who could not embrace criticism, but he

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Speaker 3: could withstand it, and then he was going to be

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Speaker 3: a very prominent personality in the league for as long

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Speaker 3: as he owned the franchise.

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Speaker 2: Why do we have a Cowboy documentary? Like why now is?

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Speaker 2: And did you learn anything new? And I know you're

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Speaker 2: you're interviewed in this but why now for a Cowboy documentary.

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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of a legacy, you know piece

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Speaker 3: for Jerry. He's eighty two years old. They've been irrelevant

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Speaker 3: in terms of competing for championships for thirty years. I

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Speaker 3: think Jerry wanted, you know, something that sort of documented

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Speaker 3: his place in the NFL and how it all began

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Speaker 3: and what he accomplished during his career. And he wanted

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Speaker 3: to take credit for certain things for which he has

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Speaker 3: not yet been given credit. And I mean there's just

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Speaker 3: always there's always the soap opera.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's always drama around the team.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Dan, most most coaches, most general managers,

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Speaker 3: the first thing that they want to do, other than

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Speaker 3: have a healthy football team is eliminate distractions. And Jerry's

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Speaker 3: different in that he has said as recently as this

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Speaker 3: training camp, when it gets quiet, I like to stir

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Speaker 3: it up. And so for all of those reasons, the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys are very good theater. And he had an offer of,

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Speaker 3: you know, fifty million dollars to cooperate and do this piece.

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Speaker 2: If fans in Dallas could vote whether they wanted Jerry

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Speaker 2: to continue as the owner, how would that go?

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Speaker 3: I think the Jerry would win the three votes of

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Speaker 3: his family members who were involved in the organization, and

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Speaker 3: might lose all of the remaining votes. I think the

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Speaker 3: media would like to have keep Jerry around. He's he's

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Speaker 3: obviously good for what we do, always has been good

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Speaker 3: for our business. But yeah, I mean, I thought that

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Speaker 3: was one of the interesting things about this documentary and

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Speaker 3: the timing, and one of the things that struck me

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Speaker 3: while watching it was when Jerry came here in nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty nine, he was vilified. He was hated, very you know,

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Speaker 3: strong dislike for him for you know, firing Tom Landry

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Speaker 3: franchise icon even though he had been losing in many people,

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Speaker 3: including his bosses within the organization, tech Stram thought the

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Speaker 3: end had come or was near for Tom Landry. Jerry's

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Speaker 3: the one who actually did it, you know, And here

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Speaker 3: we are thirty five years later, and a lot of

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Speaker 3: that animosity still.

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Speaker 4: Remains towards Jerry.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't know if Cowboys fans, if football fans

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Speaker 3: in general, would watch this documentary just out of curiosity

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Speaker 3: or to have a sense of nostalgia, or they would

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Speaker 3: refuse to do so in protest over the way Jerry

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Speaker 2: Any chance that Michael Parson's agent is the issue here

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Speaker 2: in these negotiations.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think that first of all, it's not uncommon

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Speaker 4: It happened with.

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Speaker 3: Ezekiel Elliott, who signed the week of Jason Garrett's first

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Speaker 3: game of his final season. Happened last Dak Prescott was

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Speaker 3: about to get out on the bus to go to

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Speaker 3: sign Dak Prescott would had to have Mike McCarthy call

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Speaker 3: a time out in the first quarter. But I think there,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that David Mullaghetta is to blame specifically

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Speaker 3: forced the issue to get the terms that they think

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Speaker 3: are fair to them. And I mean Jalen Ramsey claimed

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Speaker 3: the back injury, missed three game checks and ultimately got traded,

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Speaker 4: Michaeh.

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Speaker 3: Parsons might want to follow that routine to a point.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Michael Parsons wants to be traded, and

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Speaker 3: I think ultimately, Dan like both sides are complicit in

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Speaker 3: where they are today. Michael Parsons was, you know, naive

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Speaker 3: to engage Jerry Jones in contract negotiations without Mulla Getta

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Speaker 3: his representation being present.

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Speaker 4: And Jerry was.

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Speaker 3: Wrong after thirty five years of being a general manager

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Speaker 3: to think that he could reach a binding agreement with

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Speaker 2: We're talking to ed Warder. He's been covering the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty nine working for WFAATV in Dallas. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the team on the field, though, because it

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Speaker 2: feels like we talk about everything else on the periphery

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Speaker 2: with the Cowboys comes down to how threatening is this

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Speaker 2: team if everybody's on the field, how good of the Cowboys?

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Speaker 4: Generally speaking?

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Speaker 3: When Dak Prescott has been healthy and played most or

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Speaker 3: all of the season as a starting quarterback, the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: have been in the playoffs. I think this is the

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Speaker 3: first time in Dak's ten year career as a Cowboys

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Speaker 3: the third best team in their own division. I mean

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia and Washington played the NFC champion Ship Game last year.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys went one in three against those two teams,

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Speaker 3: although they didn't have Dak Prescott. I mean, Prescott's been

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Speaker 3: the most dominant player in the division. In the regular season,

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Speaker 3: He's thirty three to eight against division opponents. But the

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Speaker 3: division is certainly stronger now than it was early in

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Speaker 3: his career, and so division championship are harder to win.

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Speaker 3: And when the defending Super Bowl champion is in your

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Speaker 3: weeks and they have a first time you know, head coach,

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Speaker 3: and Brian Schottenheimer, who dany has two jobs this year

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Speaker 3: they didn't have a year ago one. He's a head coach.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't the head coach last year. He was the

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Speaker 3: offensive coordinatorybody, wasn't the play caller. Now he's a play

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Speaker 3: deal with that he hasn't had to do in his

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Speaker 2: And also more pressure on the Cowboys after what the

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Speaker 2: Commanders have done and they've got their quarterback. It's a

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Speaker 2: The Giants it feels like it's maybe wait till next year.

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Speaker 2: Dak in his age and what he gets paid, and

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Speaker 2: like that surprised me. I've been very vocal that I

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Speaker 2: like Dak as a person. He's been very good to

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Speaker 2: the show. I just wouldn't sign him up for that

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Speaker 2: kind of money. I just I didn't understand that, you know,

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Speaker 2: bringing back Zeke Kelly, Like, there's certain things that Jerry

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Speaker 2: has done really well, or his his team has done

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Speaker 2: really well. But the Dak part of it, thirty two,

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Speaker 2: coming off an injury and you're paying him sixty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing that a year later he still has, by

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Speaker 3: five million dollars, the highest average salary in the NFL

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Speaker 3: among players at any position. That just speaks I think,

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Speaker 3: not only to his value to the Cowboys and Jerry's

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Speaker 3: fear of not having a franchise type quarterback going into

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Speaker 3: a season without somebody he thinks can win games on

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Speaker 3: a consistent basis. I mean, how fortunate are the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Dak Presco was fourth round pick, Tony Romo was an

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Speaker 3: undrafted player. They've had twenty years of high level quarterback

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Speaker 3: and without investing a first round pick, and in the

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Speaker 3: case of Dak and his salary, I mean, it's really

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Speaker 4: It's what Micah Parsons is going through. Now.

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Speaker 3: You know, Dak and his agent mastered that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they forced the Cowboys to franchise Tag. They'd never franchise

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Speaker 3: twice and ultimately Jerry feared losing him and so he

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Speaker 2: How did the Eagles not end up back in this

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Speaker 4: I think it all comes down to injuries.

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Speaker 3: If you know, Jalen Hurts stays healthy, if they're you know,

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Speaker 3: defense with Vic Fangio, which could be the youngest in

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Speaker 3: with Andy Reid. This is a division as you know,

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Speaker 3: That being said, I still think there's a big difference

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Speaker 4: Chiefs in the Super Bowl. They're a really good team.

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Speaker 3: Their front office takes a completely different approach to being

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones would study that and apply that to his franchise.

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Speaker 4: He chose to do just the opposite.

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Speaker 2: What's the craziest story you've ever been involved in or

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Speaker 2: heard about the Cowboys? You can leave out names if

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we saw him in the documentary,

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Speaker 3: you know, the Michael Irvin situation, being arrested.

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Speaker 3: him ultimately missing six games to start a season, and

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Speaker 3: Deion Sanders becoming, you know, Treyikman's number one receiver. So

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Speaker 3: it's hard to it's hard to say that. There's just

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Speaker 3: that would be more curious than all of the things

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Speaker 3: we've seen happen hopidly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt the same way when I watched the documentary,

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Speaker 2: But you know, I've been around you know, doing this

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Speaker 2: say you're thirty years of age and your entire lifetime,

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Speaker 2: Dallas hasn't won anything, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you take a trip down memory lane, you're like, damn,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the thing that you know comes through

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Speaker 3: when you watch the documentary is what a great coach

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson was not only in terms of identifying and

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Speaker 3: but he also was a master psychologist. And the players

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Speaker 3: on that team, the principal leaders of that team, unlike

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Speaker 3: those today, like they met the challenge in the postseason,

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Speaker 3: they were up for it. We haven't seen that.

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Speaker 4: From a Cowboys team in over thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Where the Cowboys play their best in the biggest moments

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Speaker 3: against the best opponents.

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Speaker 2: Always great to talk to you, you always have something

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Speaker 3: I'm very fortunate that I took an offer from the

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Speaker 3: even though it wasn't really a job I wanted at

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Speaker 2: It's it's not something where you show up at work

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's Aiden in Utah is getting engaged this weekend.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Ellen, quickly, you've got flowers, flowers and more flowers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Ellen. I think you're making a

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Speaker 2: Nothing more romantic than baggage claim at JFK.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Paul, I don't think I heard before that.

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Speaker 7: I had a red eye flight from LA to New York.

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Speaker 7: There's a big difference between thought bubbles and things that

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Speaker 2: all right when we come back. Best week in sports shirt?

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Speaker 6: How can you talk sports at three hours? Yankee's five

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Speaker 2: That was at Big Deans in Santa Monica when we

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Speaker 6: Her up for I know you, Why is your face

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Speaker 2: Get on with it. I do think that's your best

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Speaker 2: Final hour on this Friday, it's a Meat Friday. And

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Speaker 2: Steve Young, Hall of Famer will join us. Hall of

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Speaker 12: We got up there right now? Which quarterback had the

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Speaker 2: your daughter getting to Ohio University, volunteer for everything, campus radio,

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Speaker 2: campus newspaper, if there's a local TV station that you

442
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 2: can work on weekends, you can work nights, whatever it is.

443
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 2: You must outwork everybody else, and that'll give you a

444
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: chance to be able to do this for a living.

445
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Speaker 2: But good luck John with the trip and to your daughter,

446
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: thank you so much. All right, Yeah, my voice would

447
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: quiver when I would say goodbye to my daughter's. My

448
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: wife said, be strong, and you're going to be strong.

449
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm like I am.

450
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Speaker 2: I think I'm being strong. Mike and Wisconsin. Hi, Mike,

451
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

452
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Speaker 9: Hey?

453
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Speaker 4: Dan, Hey Mike?

454
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Speaker 7: I just saw there? Would Hello Dan.

455
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 4: Hey Mike, Hey Dan.

456
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, Hey Dan, see you Mike. Oh, have a

457
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: good one. Any who. Uh. One of my favorite guests

458
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Speaker 2: of all time, Steve Young, joining us on the program.

459
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Speaker 2: How are you feeling, dad?

460
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Speaker 4: Great?

461
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Speaker 8: How are you, buddy?

462
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. Uh. I saw you in the

463
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: documentary on the Cowboys.

464
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Speaker 8: Uh, yeah, I haven't. I got to watch that. I

465
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 8: haven't seen it. Was it good? Was I?

466
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Speaker 2: You're always good? But I I didn't learn anything from it.

467
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: And I've been around it too long, so that's probably

468
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: on me that I've heard all all the stories. Therefore

469
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: you knew everything. Yes, yes, but if you're young, if

470
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: you're thirty or younger, then you're probably saying, oh, that's

471
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: when we used to be really good.

472
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Speaker 8: But yeah, it is weird. It's weird that the Cowboys

473
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Speaker 8: have struggled for so long yet there's still America's team,

474
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Speaker 8: and Jerry's done a great job of that, right, He's

475
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 8: created this image. And I was talking to Jason Garrett

476
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 8: the other day ironically about it, like the you know,

477
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 8: you go out, you travel for the Cowboys, you make

478
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 8: the team, and now you're now you're special, but you're

479
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 8: you're actually not. You got to go earn it. And

480
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 8: I've always had the I always said that the Cowboys

481
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 8: should start with no stars on their helmet, and then

482
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Speaker 8: when they get the ten wins, put a star on.

483
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 8: And then when you get to the playoffs, you know,

484
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 8: or you get to the Championsia and you get another star,

485
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 8: and then like because otherwise it feels like there's something

486
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 8: that's special about you, but it's but there's but it's not.

487
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 8: You have to go earn it. So it's a weird

488
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 8: dynamic with the Cowboys because of what they've done with

489
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Speaker 8: the America's Team.

490
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Speaker 2: But that was your rival when you were with the Niners.

491
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Speaker 2: Would you consider the Cowboys you made?

492
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, are you kidding me? They were amazing? They

493
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Speaker 8: were they they were they were amazing. They were they were.

494
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 8: They were a fantastic team, and beating them was monumental.

495
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Speaker 8: I mean, I was just and they were as good

496
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Speaker 8: as anyone you've ever seen. So that's just a fact.

497
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Speaker 2: But who was the the person like that, that's the

498
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Speaker 2: the most important person on the Cowboys was who?

499
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Speaker 8: I mean they were loaded and you always say the

500
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 8: quarterback with Troy, but I mean it was in many ways.

501
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 8: You know, they had a we gave him Charles Haley.

502
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Speaker 8: I mean, well that was a great move, right, nineteen

503
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 8: eighty one. Right, let's let's hand you a Hall of

504
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 8: Fame defensive end just in time, just speaker to make

505
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Speaker 8: our lives in miserable. That's awesome. That was just the

506
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 8: best we've ever made. That was great. But I mean

507
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 8: Emmett was the guy that rent like you know, Emma

508
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 8: just you know that was that was what they did, right,

509
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 8: They played off of Emmett and then throwing the ball

510
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 8: play action and Michael down. I mean there's this there's

511
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 8: this hall of famers everywhere, right, that's just the fact. Yeah.

512
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: And then Jimmy Johnson, you know, it's the architect there

513
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: with and back then it felt like he had more

514
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Speaker 2: control or more say than Jerry did. But does does

515
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Speaker 2: Jerry know? Because it was what I don't know how

516
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 2: many six months ago, eight months ago when you were

517
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: on our show and you talked about that. The problem is,

518
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. That didn't come up in the documentary, did it?

519
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: Of course not.

520
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Speaker 8: We did talk about it, and it's pretty obvious. So

521
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 8: it's not like it's a hot take or anything. Because

522
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 8: the owner has not empowered anybody else to go in

523
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Speaker 8: in the locker room and threatened to fire or anyone.

524
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 8: Because if as a coach, you have to be able

525
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 8: to lock it, walk in the locker room, and people

526
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 8: have to have not fear, but at least the respect

527
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 8: that I am gonna make this team and if you know,

528
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 8: I'm gonna form it in my image and if I

529
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 8: if you don't, you know, do what I ask or like,

530
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 8: do it well or you know, this is a this

531
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Speaker 8: is a place for elite performers. I'm gonna have You're

532
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 8: gonna go And when you were not walk in the

533
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 8: locker room and nobody really believes that you have that power,

534
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 8: you can't. It's the foot you know, you know NFL,

535
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 8: It's just it's so intense and so competitive. They lose

536
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 8: something there and uh, and I think Jerry Jimmy Johnson

537
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 8: had it. We all get that. We all recognize that

538
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 8: Jerry didn't like it. You know, we've kind of that

539
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 8: was you know, I don't think that's a hot take either,

540
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 8: and has never really, in my mind, empowered anybody to

541
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 8: come in and really take control of the team and

542
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 8: be able to run it, uh not run it, but

543
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 8: able to co with authority. And I think that's a

544
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 8: that's a that's a big piece and any coach would

545
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 8: tell you that it's a big piece of being able

546
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 8: to get a great team together.

547
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: Steve Young, the Hall of Fame quarterback. If I would

548
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: have told you in Tampa you're going to go to

549
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame when you were with the Buccaneers,

550
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: what would you have said?

551
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 8: I said, well, James Wilder and Jimmy Giles are going

552
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 8: to be amazing because we had we had good play

553
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 8: like we were. We didn't win, but I always said

554
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 8: we weren't losers, like like James Wilder. I don't even

555
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 8: know that name at all, but these guys that I

556
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 8: played with were not losers. We just didn't have the

557
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 8: superstructure to go get it done. So I would have said,

558
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 8: how exactly is this going to happen? But I will

559
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 8: tell you that in the middle of it, I had

560
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 8: I think I had a coach Jimmy Ray, who you know,

561
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 8: turned to me a couple of times just said, look,

562
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 8: you're gonna be good, so just hang in there, like

563
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 8: you know, we've got to get some help, but you're

564
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 8: going to be good. And I think I took that

565
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 8: as a flare or a signal that, like, things are

566
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 8: going to be okay. But hall of fame, you know,

567
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 8: I mean, who who says when their first year when

568
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 8: they're losing, No, I'm a Hall of Famer. Yeah, that's

569
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 8: gonna be great.

570
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Speaker 2: You know.

571
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Speaker 8: I'm killing it. Man, It's going so good. I can't

572
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 8: wait to lose another twelve games.

573
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Speaker 2: I think I think you were three and sixteen as

574
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: a starter.

575
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Speaker 8: Oh thanks, Dan, I appreciate it. You're always on top

576
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 8: of that. Awesome. Hey, those are those three were hard fought, man.

577
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: I bet they were. Where do you stand on rookie

578
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: quarterbacks starting games?

579
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Speaker 8: It's more it's more likely today because the difference between

580
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 8: college and pro has really narrowed because of the world changes.

581
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 8: You and I have talked about this at length, and

582
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 8: it's really limited defenses ability to launch their bodies and

583
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 8: patrol the the field, and so it slowed the game down.

584
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 8: And so it's allowed for college type offenses to start

585
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 8: to infiltrate the NFL. Maybe in the innovators with you know,

586
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 8: Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan and Andy Reid and Sean

587
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 8: Payton eight years ago when the when the world changes,

588
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 8: they were they thrived right because they were innovative in

589
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 8: into this new this new rule, this new game that's

590
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 8: got more space. And so, uh, you get to one

591
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 8: of those guys as a rookie, I think there's a

592
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 8: chance that things could go really well. And I think

593
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 8: because they now can run offenses, you can show up

594
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 8: with kayleb Woyden and say, look, we're gonna run stuff

595
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 8: that you're comfortable with because they can. Wasn't the case

596
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Speaker 8: in the old days. They couldn't run college stuff. They

597
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 8: get smashed. But today you can run college offenses. And really,

598
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 8: if you've watched the pros and the college game, they're very,

599
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 8: very similar. And in that way, it helps rookie quarterbacks transition,

600
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 8: especially guys that are gonna make it. And it's a,

601
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 8: it's a it's a sign that now go go back

602
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 8: to Tampa Bay who you might question about Tampa still

603
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 8: need lots of help. And there are a dozen teams

604
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 8: in the league that I would not want my son

605
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 8: to go play quarterback for. But there's more. There were

606
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 8: only seven or six or five back in the day

607
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 8: that I want my son to go play quarterback for.

608
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 8: So it's gotten a lot better. Two thirds of the

609
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 8: league I think, pretty good, imaginative, and they've all come

610
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 8: from that tree. Vany Reid, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, and

611
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 8: Sean pat I mean, those are those all the coaches

612
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 8: that have infiltrated the NFL with all this innovation is

613
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 8: pretty much every you know, we quit us in the

614
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 8: league today, but rookies have a shot. And because of.

615
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: That, Rock Purdy went from a feel good story mister irrelevant,

616
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, competing in big games and now you get

617
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: that big paycheck and now the expectations come with that.

618
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: Can you speak to that of what that feels like

619
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Speaker 2: or where the pressure? Now you've got to produce and

620
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: you got a lot of your weapons either traded away,

621
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: are injured.

622
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 8: It's a new hurdle every quarterback that is going to

623
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 8: be good or great is going to face those kinds

624
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 8: of hurdles. Right, You're gonna get paid and in the NFL,

625
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 8: it's going to be a thing. And now you have

626
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 8: to deal that. We deal with that with your teammates

627
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 8: because it's just so uneven uh in in pay scale

628
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 8: and how attention and uh. And Brock has done an

629
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 8: amazing job being very humble, very team oriented, very I'm

630
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 8: you know, one all for one on one for all

631
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 8: and it's been really easy to you know, make that

632
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 8: true because he was getting paid less than everybody. So

633
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 8: that does that dynamic does change, Dan, and so you

634
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 8: have to kind of jump over that hurdle or walk

635
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 8: through that filter, uh and play through it. And so

636
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 8: that's going to start this season. And that's a piece

637
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 8: of it. There are people that have failed at at

638
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 8: that transition uh and never really got a hand, you know,

639
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 8: kind of handle on it. I think Brock's going to

640
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 8: handle it really well. Now you get to the part

641
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 8: where he said, well, who's gonna help me? Do I

642
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 8: have the guys? And it's certainly different than two years ago.

643
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 8: This team was completely loaded least two years ago and

644
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 8: today it's had to transition, and some of it because

645
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 8: they paid him. So we get that. I've said this

646
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 8: many times, but this year is one of those years

647
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 8: where if you're a fan of the forty nine ers,

648
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 8: the jerseys that you're wearing right now in opening Day, Yeah,

649
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 8: we get that, you know, Kittle and Purty and Warner,

650
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 8: you know, and that kind of thing. But in McCaffrey,

651
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 8: But if we're going to actually give him enough help

652
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 8: and he's going to be able to get to the

653
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 8: you know, go the distance or get close to the

654
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 8: you know, the super Bowl, you're gonna have to be

655
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 8: wearing by Thanksgiving jerseys that you don't know right now,

656
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Speaker 8: Guys that showed up either drafted like you know, or

657
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 8: come on to the team and all of a sudden

658
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 8: they've made such big, you know, addition to the team,

659
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 8: you're not wearing their jersey by Thanksgiving. And that's the

660
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 8: kind of season we have to have to actually be

661
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Speaker 8: able to do it. So there's young players, rookies everywhere

662
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 8: have to be big time to make it all work.

663
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Speaker 2: Didn't preseason used to matter to the to the starters.

664
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Speaker 8: Well yeah, I mean preseason with look again, rule changes, right,

665
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 8: OTAs are really cut down. Time with coaches is cut down.

666
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 8: Preseason is really just to kind of get in shape.

667
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 8: No one wants to hit, you know, because they don't

668
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 8: want to get hurt. They don't want to play because

669
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 8: they don't want to get hurt. And the game is

670
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 8: really today, Let's gather a bunch of guys through free

671
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 8: you know whatever it is, put our fifty fifty guys together,

672
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 8: and let's you know, throw it out there in September,

673
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 8: you know, first week of September. And that's why I

674
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 8: say the preseason today is the first month of September.

675
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 8: That's you just want to get out of the preseason,

676
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 8: which is September like four and oh would be awesome.

677
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 8: Three to one rate two and two fine, you know,

678
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 8: you know, anything less because you just don't know who

679
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 8: you are, what it's going to be, and it's a

680
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 8: it's it's a wild West kind of a thing in September.

681
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 8: You just want to try to manage through it because

682
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 8: preseason is really a thing of the past, and I

683
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 8: think you're even seeing it now because they've reduced a game.

684
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 8: Guys don't play and yeah, so it's you know, used

685
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 8: to be four games. You played three of them. You

686
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 8: know you started full pads the first day, two a

687
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 8: days like it's there was a lot more hitting and

688
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 8: they just they won the game. Make the game, I

689
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 8: think theoretically more safe, and I think in some ways

690
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 8: because you're not hitting each other and putting yourself at

691
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 8: risk and practice in all summer, it's probably true less

692
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 8: less risk, But I think that's the rule changes have

693
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Speaker 8: been tried to do that and it's really affected and

694
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Speaker 8: that's why I've said the play today. Guys that played

695
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 8: before the rule changes would say, the sophistication of the

696
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 8: game has really been reduced. Is it super competitive still? Absolutely?

697
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 8: And I think the fans are like, this is an

698
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 8: amazing game because it's so competitive, But the guys that

699
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 8: played before the rule changes would say, it's really I

700
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 8: don't know, I'm not gonna say dumb down, but it's

701
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 8: it's had to be reduced in sophistication just because I

702
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 8: don't have the time to actually do everything. And that's

703
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 8: why the innovation the guys I mentioned before are so

704
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 8: amazing because they're able to innovate into the game when

705
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 8: there's such a reduced amount of time to spend with

706
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Speaker 8: the players.

707
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Speaker 2: When will Aaron Rodgers look forty. Look his age, Like,

708
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: what part of his game will we see age?

709
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Speaker 8: We actually saw it coming off of the Achilles because

710
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 8: that's when he was trying to recover and you know,

711
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 8: he didn't have his He's always been able to threaten

712
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage, and I think that's part of

713
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 8: his game as he ages, You're not going to threaten

714
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage nearly as much with your legs.

715
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 8: But I think he's back to a place where he

716
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 8: can now have confidence that that is, you know, his

717
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 8: body is healed and well, and so I think he's

718
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 8: going to look you know, late thirties, right. I don't

719
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 8: think he's going to look that old. But but the

720
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 8: real the key to the game, Dan, and that's the problem,

721
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 8: is that there's so many yards, there's so many touchdowns

722
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 8: out there for free for quarterbacks who threaten the line

723
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Speaker 8: of scrimmage, and especially in the big games. And so

724
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 8: that's where he's gonna have to decide do I actually

725
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 8: still do that? Because I don't. I don't think it's

726
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 8: possible to go the distance without the do ability in

727
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 8: today's game, because you look at the Super Bowl and

728
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 8: championship games are all won by guys threatening the line

729
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 8: of scrimmage and making those big plays and creating that

730
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 8: space and and so that's the challenge for Aaron. But

731
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Speaker 8: he'll have a I think he'll have a very good season.

732
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Speaker 8: I think the Steelers will be classically Steelers, will play

733
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 8: great defense and and win win games and you know,

734
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 8: close ones, and he'll he'll he'll have a better season

735
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Speaker 8: that he's had. And uh, and then it'll get into

736
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 8: January and see if they can make make some noise,

737
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 8: and I think that'll be that'll be in a dynamic

738
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Speaker 8: you know, you know focused, you know, Aaron Rodgers is

739
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 8: gonna be in the mix, just because again I go back.

740
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Speaker 8: I don't mean to be labor this, but he was.

741
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 8: He was born and bred in a more sophisticated era,

742
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 8: so he can take advantage. That's why he's still paying.

743
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 8: That's why wanted to play. That's why Peyton wanted to

744
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 8: Peyton was so pissed because his arm fell off, Like

745
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 8: He's like, I could still do this for another ten

746
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 8: year because I'm playing in an era where they can't

747
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 8: hit me. In the middle of the field's unpatrolled and

748
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 8: the flats are open. So let's go, and I think

749
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Speaker 8: that Aaron knows that.

750
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Speaker 2: And Brady could still play, couldn't he He could still start?

751
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think to me learning in a more sophisticated

752
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 8: air now playing today, as long as your arm is

753
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 8: Drew Brees lost his arm right, ye, Ayton's armed, I mean, Tom,

754
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 8: if his arm is still there, you can. I think

755
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 8: you can still play. I don't know how. I mean,

756
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 8: at some point, you know, you slow down enough where

757
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 8: you can't make the throw that you need to make,

758
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 8: and it just shows up and defenses start to creep

759
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 8: and and then you start taking the air out of

760
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 8: the room and pretty soon you just can't. You know,

761
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 8: first down has become really hard. I mean, that's inevitable.

762
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 8: But as far as just you know, if your arm

763
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 8: is still in pretty good shape, you can play for

764
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Speaker 8: a while.

765
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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you is always. Thanks for joining us, Yeah,

766
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Speaker 2: you're the man. Steve Young Hall of Famer, will take

767
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: a break. Another Hall of Famer, John Fogerty, will join

768
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Speaker 2: us the Rock and Roll Hall of Famer right after this.

769
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

770
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771
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,800
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772
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,600
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773
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: He's still out there on the road rocking. John Fogerty, singer, songwriter,

774
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, just turned eighty in May, and today

775
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: a new album, Legacy, is being released as he re

776
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: recorded some of his most beloved songs with the help

777
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: of his sons, Shane and Tyler. Have you Seen the Rain?

778
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: Fortunate Son, Proud, Mary bad Moon Rising, but a big

779
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: baseball fan. His song center Field the only song to

780
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: be officially inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. As

781
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: we make way for John Fogerty, former lead singer of

782
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Speaker 2: Creeden's Clearwater Revival. John, great to talk to you again.

783
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: Your reaction when you realize that the bat, guitar, and

784
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: the song center Field were becoming part of the Baseball

785
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

786
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 9: Oh, that was right around maybe a couple months before

787
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 9: it actually happened. It was right around the time that

788
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 9: it occurred. I didn't get a lot of time to

789
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 9: think about all the implications, you know, I was certainly

790
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 9: very proud, still proud, and.

791
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: Then whose idea was it to make a guitar out

792
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: of a baseball bat or resemble a baseball bat?

793
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Speaker 9: Oh, that was my idea. I'd written center Field, you know,

794
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 9: more or less deciding that that's kind of where my

795
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 9: mind had been over the all the years of my life,

796
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 9: you know, and I just felt comfortable about, you know,

797
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 9: Centerfield as an album was kind of a comeback for me,

798
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 9: you might say, career wise, and the place to me

799
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 9: that was sort of ground zero was center field. It

800
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 9: seemed like, especially on a lot of teams, the alpha

801
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 9: male on the team seemed to be the center fielder,

802
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 9: you know, like Willie Mays with the Giants, or back

803
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 9: in the day Babe Ruth before they moved him to

804
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 9: right field. I think Joe Demajjo, Mickey Mannle.

805
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 7: You know, go on.

806
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 9: But anyway, and so I wrote the song and then

807
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 9: eventually decided to name the album center Field. Actually it's

808
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 9: the reverse. I named the album center Field and didn't.

809
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: Have a salt.

810
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 9: And then I came up with that guitar lick, you know,

811
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 9: and realized that I started I started just saying the

812
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 9: things I said in life. I'd watched the Saturday Game

813
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 9: of the week baseball, you know, there was one game

814
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 9: on TV on Saturday, and I'd sit down and watch

815
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 9: that and I'd be yelling at the screen screen, you know,

816
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 9: like we do when something good happen or bad. And

817
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 9: sometimes it'd be a phenom, you know, and it's something

818
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 9: going not going well with the team you're rooting for,

819
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 9: and I'd be yelling.

820
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: Put me in, coachs put me.

821
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Speaker 9: You know. It's just you know, how you enjoy and

822
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 9: interact with the game. And all of that stuff started

823
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 9: coming out when I was playing that Guitar League and

824
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 9: I realized I had a song that could be center field.

825
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 9: So that came first. The album came out in eighty

826
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 9: five and it was a big success and all that,

827
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 9: and I decided, well, you know, I'm going to be

828
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 9: touring pretty soon. Wow, it'd be cool to be able

829
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 9: to play center field on a baseball bat. So that's

830
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 9: how it started for me.

831
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: Now, clear up something, because I think I asked you

832
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: about this a while ago that you say brown eyed

833
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: handsome man, and I thought you were talking about Joe

834
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: Demagio because he played center field, and you said, it's

835
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: not about Joe Tomi, it's about Jackie Robinson.

836
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 9: Absolutely, I realize he's not the center fielder. And I

837
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 9: guess I took a little tributary in the musical world there,

838
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 9: But it just seemed important to me. That's a line

839
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 9: that's in a Chuck Berry song, Brown Eyed Handsome Man,

840
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 9: and he talks about round and third headed and for home,

841
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 9: and so that I just sort of borrowed that in

842
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 9: my homage to Jackie Robinson. After all, if I'm writing

843
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 9: a baseball song, you better be in there.

844
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: We're talking to John Fogerty, formerly of Creden's Clearwater Revival

845
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: rock and roll Hall of Famer, has a new album

846
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: called Legacy that comes out today, some re recordings with

847
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: his sons Shane and Tyler. You got fortunate son. Have

848
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: you seen the rain? Proud Mary? So tell me what

849
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: went into this project.

850
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 9: Well, you know, I recently got my songs back the

851
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 9: ownership a couple of years ago, and that's a great

852
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 9: big deal to any songwriter, of course, or any writer

853
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 9: of any kind of material. And so finally, after more

854
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 9: than fifty years of trying, I finally got the ownership

855
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 9: of those songs back. It was actually facilitated by my

856
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 9: dear wife, Julie. She's the one that really manifested this

857
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 9: and made it happen. You know, she's a force of

858
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 9: nature and God bless her. So with that in mind,

859
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 9: finally accomplishing that, it just seemed kind of a natural

860
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 9: progression to hear in the present. You know, I just

861
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 9: turned eighty this year, and the idea basically was, what

862
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 9: do you do? What kind of a gift would I like?

863
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 9: So I decided to give myself a gift and record

864
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 9: a a lot of the old Creeden songs I had

865
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 9: written so many years ago again and hopefully it would

866
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 9: be seen as a gift also to my fans. And

867
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 9: that was the motivation, this time involving my family, meaning

868
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 9: my wife and certainly my sons Shane and Tyler, who

869
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Speaker 9: are in my band, and they helped produce the record

870
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 9: as well. So it was a family endeavor and you know,

871
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 9: a lot of love in that respect making this record.

872
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Speaker 2: Take me back to Woodstock. What day were you on

873
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: with Creeden's Clearwater Revival.

874
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: Well, it was.

875
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 9: Supposed to be on Saturday night. The man on the

876
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 9: phone had promised me that a prime spot, you know,

877
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 9: the headlining spot on Saturday night. It's going to be

878
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 9: nine o'clock. Man, that's prime time. But things got later

879
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 9: in the later and later. This was of course during

880
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 9: the era of hippies. I'm not sure anybody actually had

881
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 9: a watch, but the whole program got later and later,

882
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 9: and somewhere around midnight of Saturday, the Grateful Dead went on,

883
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 9: and then they sort of stalled around on stage for

884
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 9: a while. Nobody quite knew what was going on. I

885
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 9: believe Credence went on Sunday morning early.

886
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Around Were you there when Hendrick set his guitar on fire?

887
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 9: No, that was actually Monday morning. That was after the

888
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 9: whole night of Sunday, you know, the whole festivities of

889
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 9: the Sunday evening going into twelve am and one and

890
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 9: two and three, then the sun came up, and that's

891
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Speaker 9: Monday morning when Jimmy went on.

892
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 2: The difference in your voice now at eighty as opposed

893
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: to thirty, Oh well, I know my.

894
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 9: False setto is not quite as strong and pure as

895
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 9: it used to be. You know, it's a little different

896
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 9: around the edges, I think, but it's certainly as strong.

897
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 9: I'm certainly as loud as I ever was, and that's

898
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 9: probably as much to I've been a runner all my life,

899
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 9: and so I think all those miles of running kind

900
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 9: of helped my stamina.

901
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Speaker 2: Well, congrats on a great run. And it's not over.

902
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: He's a rock and Roll Hall of Famer as a

903
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: songwriter and of course as a singer. My best to

904
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Speaker 2: the family, certainly, Julie and John. Thank you for joining us.

905
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Speaker 9: Thank you Dan, It's always great to see you.

906
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Speaker 2: John Fogerty, the album is Legacy being released today. I

907
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: met him. I'm trying to think how many years ago.

908
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: This almost ten years ago at Howard Stern's sixtieth birthday party,

909
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: and Gary Delabte, Howard's longtime producer, invited me to come

910
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: on and introduced Dave Grohl, and I said, okay. But

911
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: I get there and immediately I'm told by somebody, Hey,

912
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: John Fogerty wants to meet you. I'm thinking, all right,

913
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: this is I mean, it's the Howard Stern Show. So

914
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm you know, somebody's punking me here. You know, Baba

915
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: Booie is going to jump out or you know, stuttering

916
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: John or somebody. And I go back, you know, through

917
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: these hallways, and all of a sudden, I just walked

918
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: up to a door and knock on the door and

919
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 2: John's wife answers. I said, I'm supposed to say hello

920
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: to John, and she goes, He's been waiting for you.

921
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Speaker 2: I walk in and there he is. He's got his

922
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Speaker 2: plaid shirt, his signature plaid shirt on and he listens

923
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Speaker 2: every morning in Los Angeles. And I said, okay, this

924
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: has already proven to be a great night. Then I

925
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: go back into this kind of a green room and

926
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: I got Slash from Guns n' Roses, and I got

927
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: Dave Grohl. You know, you got all these people and

928
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: they're kind of getting ready to go on and have

929
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Speaker 2: their performances. And I walk up to Dave Grohl and

930
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: I said, hey, I'm introducing you. He goes, I don't

931
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 2: know anything about sports. My daughters play lacrosse. I said, well,

932
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, that has nothing to do with the introduction.

933
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, this is what I want you to

934
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: say that I grew up listening to Howard on a

935
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: Ham radio and I said okay, And then I just

936
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: wanted to get it over with because I mean I

937
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: had already had my highlight. I met John Fogerty, go out,

938
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: sayalo to Robin Saalo to Howard, introduced Dave Grohl, and

939
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: then I'm out the door. But you know, one of

940
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: those surreal moments because there's John Fogerty Rock and Roll

941
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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and gave us so many great songs

942
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Speaker 2: with credence.