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Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd.

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Speaker 3: Couple and rob G. There is a team that went

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Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl. Well one of them is rolling

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Speaker 3: at eight and two, the Chiefs, No, the Eagles, and

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Speaker 3: the other one is scruggling, struggling, struggling at five and five.

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Speaker 4: Who would that be, Rob G. That would be the

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Speaker 4: Kansas City Chieftains.

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Speaker 3: Did you see the way I didn't give it all

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Speaker 3: the way away?

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Speaker 4: It's fine, strawggling. Now you mentioned that they lost.

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Speaker 5: It was a tough game coming off of buy which

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Speaker 5: makes it even more an excuse me.

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Speaker 3: I thought that what's his name, Andy Wee is unbelievable

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Speaker 3: coming off what they say.

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Speaker 4: That's what they said, and apparently not.

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes threw a pick six, got overturned and he's like,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'll throw another one later on in the drive.

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Speaker 5: Will make it right, so don't worry about it. It was

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Speaker 5: one of those games for the Chiefs. But the big story,

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the game is the game. We'll get

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Speaker 5: to that later. The big story is what's up next

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Speaker 5: for Kansas City. As of right now, NFL next Gen

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Speaker 5: Stats pegs them as having a ten percent chance to

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Speaker 5: win the division. They're three and a half games back

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Speaker 5: of Denver, plus Denver now as the tiebreaker, at least

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Speaker 5: for now. More importantly, however, teams that start the season

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Speaker 5: five and five historically only make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Nine percent of the time. Wow.

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Speaker 5: And if that wasn't bad enough, if Kansas City were

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Speaker 5: to make the postseason, and let's say they don't win

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Speaker 5: the division, but hey, we can get in as a wildcard.

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Speaker 5: We got one extra team from a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 5: We'll sneak as a wildcard above Kansas City. The three

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Speaker 5: wildcard teams right now seven and three Buffalo Bills, seven

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Speaker 5: and four, LA Chargers, six and four Jacksonville Jaguars. All

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Speaker 5: three of those teams number one, have beaten Kansas City.

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Speaker 5: That's something. Number two. All three of those teams have

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Speaker 5: considerably easier schedules moving forward, which means it is possible,

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Speaker 5: if not likely, that at least one, if not all three,

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Speaker 5: will win ten games. In that scenario, the Kansas City

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Speaker 5: Chiefs would have to win eleven games just to make

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Speaker 5: the postseason, which means winning six of the Lions six.

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Speaker 4: Seven. Yeah, I mean they are in between a rock

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Speaker 3: All the way around. Yeah, that was a game they

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Speaker 3: needed to have. And I'm not gonna say I told

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Speaker 4: The season is not.

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Speaker 3: Over, but I told you so before the season started.

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Speaker 3: I did say they wouldn't make the playoffs. I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 4: I'm not. Also, you mentioned the Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: He has three red zone interceptions that basically have helped

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Speaker 3: him lose games. Yesterday was Terry Philly is one to

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Speaker 3: pick six Jacksonville, and then yesterday, which was a ten

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Speaker 3: point swing, you know what I mean. I mean, No,

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Speaker 3: I talked about it. I don't know if I've seen different,

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Speaker 3: Rob g I've seen uh ten and oher in one

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Speaker 3: score games eleven and zero one score, and even ESPN

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Speaker 3: just had a said twelve and oher, you know in

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Speaker 1: Am I don't know if the people are including like

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Speaker 4: Right, and I'm looking at it. We've been talking about.

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Speaker 3: Eleven and at least we have and then Iver saw

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Speaker 3: somebody said ten. No, Well, the other thing too, is

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Speaker 3: just didn't happen. And bow Knicks we talked about it.

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Speaker 3: beat the Lions and what other game? Only two teams

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Speaker 3: they're the same Lions. There's only two teams that they beat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And uh and the Ravens are five or five?

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Speaker 4: Who else?

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Speaker 1: And then as far as those types of went going

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Speaker 1: the you know you mentioned the Lions.

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Speaker 4: Uh, and that's it.

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Speaker 3: The lines of the Ravens and the Ravens are five

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Speaker 3: at that time they were bad when they beat them

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Speaker 4: Offensively, they were they were going trying to figure things out.

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Speaker 3: They were struggling big time. But but I don't know

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Speaker 1: I know you felt good like they were going to

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Speaker 4: They were putting up big time points. I mean prior

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Speaker 1: You know, they obviously lose to the Bills, but then

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Speaker 1: seven points of their offense. That got back to what

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Speaker 1: you kind of expected. And Patrick Mahomes was looking really

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Speaker 4: He adn't MVP anymore. That's gone. That was a big game.

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Speaker 1: And that was a game to me to what we're

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Speaker 3: Were favorites on the road coming off to buy and

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Speaker 3: the idea that the Broncos had won seven in a row.

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Speaker 1: That's how much people believed believed in him. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: to give credit to bow Knicks. First off, we already

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Speaker 1: know the Broncos defense is spectacular and that's what super

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Speaker 4: That has kept them in it.

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Speaker 1: You look at the Eagles didn't have great game offensively

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Speaker 1: party games. It's three facets of the game. Special teams, defense, offense.

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Speaker 1: Bow Knicks made the plays that you expect Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: he made that throw reminded me of that Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: ability to not finish games, and you don't have to

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Speaker 1: up being last season, but you can't beat oh and five. Right,

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Speaker 1: You cut yourself some slack if you do lose a

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Speaker 1: twelve and zero again, that's that's almost impossibility. But you

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Speaker 1: some of this is Patrick Mahomes. Some of this is

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Speaker 1: You have an opportunity to win with Patrick Mahomes, and

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Speaker 3: And I have the scary part, when you honestly look

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Speaker 4: Say, who are they beating?

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Speaker 1: And teams are no The magic of the fear of

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Speaker 4: Fear of it is gone.

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Speaker 1: Teams have had to play them now for seven eight years,

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Speaker 4: Don't forget the Bills too. Did he talk turn it

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Speaker 1: I say that the right but I'm just saying in

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Speaker 1: if he didn't see him. It was right in front

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Speaker 4: But this was supposed to be that moment right there.

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Speaker 3: It was like, Okay, we don't care what you've done, Broncos.

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Speaker 4: We're the change. We've owned this division. You know what

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Speaker 3: If they would have been able to come in there

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Speaker 3: seven game winning streak and it did not happen.

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Speaker 4: That's Vegan.

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Speaker 3: Don't giveaway toe and half points at for a team

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Speaker 3: that's won seven games. They looked at the at the

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Speaker 3: at the the Broncos. Broncos just said, look out the

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Speaker 3: struggle offensively. Team man that defense, and it's about making plays.

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Speaker 3: I keep telling you all the time. It's not always

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Speaker 4: It's just about winning. And that's what they did. I'll

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Speaker 4: give them credit. They it's it's unusual.

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Speaker 1: Makes it weird because the Broncos are sean Payton team

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Speaker 1: and you expected to be the opposite defense cools, all right,

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Speaker 1: Their defense is spectacular, uh, and they make just enough plays,

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Speaker 4: But if you look at the chief schedule, that coach,

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Speaker 5: You've been this whole what fourteen minutes IM talking about

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Speaker 5: The Athletic published the whole piece about it. Through the

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Speaker 1: They're five and five, So would they be they'd be

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're the show, they're better. That's not even

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but but but what plays are you giving up?

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Speaker 3: And I just gave you three? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: they're in a position where what max two more games

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Speaker 5: And just to give the full contact what was going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now they put themselves in a position. Rob again,

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Speaker 1: it might be six.

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Speaker 4: The other teams makes it even tougher.

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Speaker 3: What what's the what's the bigger call for me that

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Speaker 4: Think the Lions that the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: Probably the Chiefs. They dominated that.

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Speaker 4: That's that's who they are. The Lions might go lying

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Speaker 4: I don't like the Bears either, rob they get them.

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Speaker 4: My nerves like them either.

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Speaker 1: They're not that good, but they keep winning, which is

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Speaker 1: By point, there's teams that are like eight to two

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Speaker 3: All right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight

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Speaker 3: told us so. No, I'm saying it ain't over yet.

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Speaker 3: Do you still believe in the Chiefs and will they

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Speaker 4: Where are you? What are you saying?

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Speaker 4: Where are you? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, man?

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Speaker 3: No, I want you yes, yeah, confidently yeah, rob G.

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Speaker 3: Yes to they Chiefs make the playoffs? Yes or no?

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Speaker 3: Another odds that Shador Sanders isn't going to make the

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Speaker 4: How's that that? I'm very good, very good way to

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Speaker 1: Let him have two more good games, two games the

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Speaker 4: I said, He's gonna have to really do better the

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Speaker 5: Mad did Shador Sanders played an entire half of football

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Speaker 4: Don't forget he completed his first two. He did so.

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Speaker 5: His thirteen and a half passer rating marked the lowest

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Speaker 4: And twelve who even Shador himself.

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Speaker 5: Despite what your favorite NFL report what it will say said,

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Speaker 4: It was a tough game, all bad in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Yes, unless you want to blame everybody other than Shador,

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Speaker 3: But my point is he's talking about all about you know,

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Speaker 3: Like that is the conversation that I'm convinced people will have.

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Speaker 3: touchdown and again in the same day for two different

441
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Speaker 3: teams and two different major league sports. Like, he's that guy.

442
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Speaker 3: But to just pin it and say it's because of

443
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Speaker 3: not getting reps or fumbling the ball or you know,

444
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Speaker 3: or whatever it is, because had he drove the team

445
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Speaker 3: down and scored the touchdown at the end, no one

446
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Speaker 3: would have brought up about not having the snaps and

447
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Speaker 3: all the other stuff that people use. It would have

448
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 3: been like, see, I told you he could play. Look

449
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Speaker 3: at what he did. He beat the Ravens, he marched

450
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Speaker 3: down the field, whatever, whatever like. It was set up

451
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Speaker 3: for Chador to do that and have a chance to

452
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Speaker 3: have a different conversation, but it didn't. It didn't materialize,

453
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Speaker 3: and there was a lot of stuff that didn't work out.

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Speaker 3: My point is just this. For people to think that

455
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Speaker 3: uh Stefanski and the brain trust at the Browns have

456
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Speaker 3: come up with a scheme so that Shador can't succeed,

457
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Speaker 3: it is ludicrous to me.

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Speaker 4: It's it's against everything.

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Speaker 3: That goes into sports where an organization hasn't been able

460
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Speaker 3: to find a quarterback uh and develop one or whatever

461
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Speaker 3: in a long time. And it just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: If that kid really was the real deal, they were

463
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Speaker 3: to put him in and I and I can't for

464
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Speaker 3: the life of me not think of Tom Brady and

465
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Speaker 3: the Raiders, like, like, seriously, this is somebody who work

466
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Speaker 3: with Shador.

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Speaker 4: Who claims to be you know, a mentor right to

468
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Speaker 4: Shador Gino? Is that is that really?

469
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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 4: Should okay?

471
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Speaker 3: Like they want to know part of him him and

472
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Speaker 3: they could have easily had him a couple times in

473
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Speaker 3: the draft.

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Speaker 4: So I looked at it. Am I saying he can't play.

475
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Speaker 3: Of course he can play play major college football, but

476
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Speaker 3: stop making excuses for Shador.

477
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Speaker 4: Guess what?

478
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Speaker 3: Just forget about everything else and just look at his play.

479
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Speaker 3: He played poorly. There's no other way up. Did you

480
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Speaker 3: could look at it? He played poorly period. I think

481
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Speaker 3: two things can be true. I think he played. Let

482
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Speaker 3: me not say that he played poorly. I don't think

483
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Speaker 3: he did play poorly. He left.

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Speaker 1: And what's crazy I was talking Robb g about this

485
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Speaker 1: that touchdown opportunity he had. If he hits that receiver

486
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Speaker 1: in the end zone there who had a nice distance

487
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Speaker 1: between and the defender, that changes things, right, because then

488
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Speaker 1: you stop looking at the completion percentage, you say, hey,

489
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Speaker 1: they're right back in this thing. I don't remember if

490
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Speaker 1: they would had a lead at that point, but it'd

491
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Speaker 1: have been right. They had have tied the game up

492
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Speaker 1: right there. Big play was like, yeah, it was a

493
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Speaker 1: moment he missed that throw. You that has to what

494
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Speaker 1: were watching? I think off camera you said Geno Smith

495
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Speaker 1: had an opportunity, Like, man, he's got to make that

496
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Speaker 1: throw in the end zone. You gotta make those strows.

497
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Speaker 1: Those are what pro quarterbacks do. So he played miserably

498
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Speaker 1: for most of that game, had a few plays here

499
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Speaker 1: or there that were, you know, some nice plays, some

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Speaker 1: couple completions, you know, way he checked down a couple

501
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Speaker 1: of times. It's okay, there's some things left desirable. However,

502
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Speaker 1: the other side of this is there is something to

503
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Speaker 1: be thrown in in a second half when you never

504
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Speaker 1: have gotten snaps. And Cam Newton had this to say,

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Speaker 1: kind of as a quarterback and with his excit men,

506
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Speaker 1: you brought it up. Each team might be different. Here's

507
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Speaker 1: what he said his experience being the starter, but what

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Speaker 1: it was like for his backup.

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Speaker 9: This is the thing that really irks me the most

510
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Speaker 9: is because he doesn't get any reps circa twenty fifteen

511
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Speaker 9: circle when Cam Newton was the MVP Circle, when.

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Speaker 4: Hey, nobody needed to know that majority of.

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Speaker 10: My career was probably the biggest blessing of my career

514
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Speaker 10: to have a veteran in Derek Anderson, Rob Rivera still

515
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Speaker 10: new we're one playaway kid from you not being available.

516
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Speaker 10: We would have anywhere from six to twelve reps in

517
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Speaker 10: every single practice. That allowed Derek to still have an

518
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Speaker 10: ability to say, hey.

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Speaker 2: If it goes how it goes.

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Speaker 4: Not granted, someone.

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Speaker 2: Say well, Cam, you played the position any different.

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Speaker 4: Well, what is that to say about properity?

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Speaker 10: Well, what is that to say about any other quarterback

524
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Speaker 10: that's here?

525
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Speaker 2: You plan for the what if in this league.

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Speaker 4: So you brought up a great point.

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Speaker 1: I believe if we asked thirty two teams there would

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Speaker 1: be something that will say I never got snapped.

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Speaker 3: And he played for the lines for a long time.

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Speaker 3: Not making that story up.

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Speaker 1: Rob g with talking to every of the old joke

532
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Speaker 1: about what they Payton Manning. They're basically saying his backup

533
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Speaker 1: never gets many reps. They said why, they said, because

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Speaker 1: if eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Go out, we're screwed. Essentially, the paraphrase that and keep

536
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Speaker 4: my job.

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Speaker 1: So I do think organizations are different, but it makes

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Speaker 1: this one strange to me. Is Dylan Gabriel you say

539
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Speaker 1: needs all the snaps? I say, hasn't? Why me to

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Speaker 1: the point if I'm them saying where we should be

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Speaker 1: giving both snaps to just a few, just a few,

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Speaker 1: Dylan gabors our starter, You get a few because you're

543
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Speaker 1: both rookies. We're both trying to see what you got

544
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Speaker 1: to see who our guy is Dylan to start in practice, though, well,

545
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Speaker 1: I want to want to watch him go up against

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Speaker 1: the ones, is what I'm saying. So Dylan, you're starting,

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Speaker 1: That's not a question. You are a starter. You're getting

548
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Speaker 1: ninety five ninety ninety five. We want to see just

549
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Speaker 1: a few, because hey, your rookie is not You're not

550
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Will we know goodwill you

551
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Speaker 1: know you are everything? You might have a bad two

552
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Speaker 1: three game stretch. We want to see what this guy has.

553
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Speaker 1: So I'm more shocked that they haven't given him a

554
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Speaker 1: few reps just simply because Dylan Gabriel is your quarterback,

555
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Speaker 1: and that means you don't have a quarterback as of

556
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Speaker 1: right now, because he hasn't played that great. He still

557
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Speaker 1: deserves to be a starter. I'm not saying as long

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Speaker 1: as he's healthy. Also, it'll be interesting. You brought it

559
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Speaker 1: up with the people being like, man, something going on

560
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Speaker 1: with this team, and they it is something about it

561
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Speaker 1: just feels like they almost have buyer remorse immediately. Maybe

562
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Speaker 1: it's justifiable, Maybe there's something to you. Maybe it's maybe

563
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Speaker 1: they don't like the man or stuff.

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Speaker 4: He says. I don't know, but it does feel.

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Speaker 3: Like they could cut him if they really like, like, sir,

566
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Speaker 3: what are they holding on for?

567
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Speaker 4: Seriously?

568
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, But I'm just they could cut him.

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Speaker 3: It ain't about selling no jersey. You sold all the

570
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Speaker 3: jersey you want to. You're done with that. If it

571
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Speaker 3: was about a PRS, he's not playing, we don't even

572
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Speaker 3: talk about him up until his point because he wasn't playing,

573
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Speaker 3: so you didn't get any extra juice. If you really

574
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Speaker 3: don't want the guy in the building or don't want him,

575
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Speaker 3: or you looked at him.

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Speaker 1: That's what you were like, he's here, but we're not

577
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Speaker 1: young ho about it.

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Speaker 4: That's what it feels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm just saying the idea that you would

580
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Speaker 3: you would have a talent in your building and ignore

581
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Speaker 3: him because you're trying there's some bigger power or some

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Speaker 3: bigger oh you know, because for all the people, and

583
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Speaker 3: you were one of them, Oh this doesn't make sense

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Speaker 3: to me, you know, and all this and and and

585
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Speaker 3: there's conspiracy or whatever. And then you find out that

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Speaker 3: teams did call, and they and he said, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to go to Baltimore. I don't want to go

588
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Speaker 3: to Philly. I don't want to go to teams that

589
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Speaker 3: have starting court. Well, well that's why he kept dropping.

590
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: But they actually but but but but people were saying

591
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Speaker 3: it was because they were trying to make a make

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Speaker 3: a point or the league was trying to say, you

593
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Speaker 3: know what I mean, like put him in his place.

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Speaker 4: I still believe that plays a role. The Ravens calls

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Speaker 4: for him.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, because the Ravens actually, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: sit behind Lamar Jackson. Which is the irony is that

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Speaker 1: this would have been he would have started, because Lamar

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Speaker 1: missed a handful of games. But the Ravens are an

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Speaker 1: organization that have done things differently. Look, they took Lamar

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Speaker 1: Philly and those are both teams that have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: I had some you know, have had they took in

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Speaker 1: Mike Vick some years ago. They don't mind maybe some

604
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Speaker 1: of the what comes with that. So that might have

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Speaker 1: been his own, you know, doing to not want to

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Speaker 1: go and back up those guys because they look at

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Speaker 1: their projected starters for a year.

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Speaker 3: But people made it that the NFL sent out the

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Speaker 3: word not to draft him.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't make sense that actually, but we get

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Speaker 1: that explanation later. It at least makes sense because there

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Speaker 1: had to be some explanation why guy that for a

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Speaker 1: long time was talking as the first rounder, okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: a second rounder the third dropped on a fourth to fifth.

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Speaker 1: So at least that even if that's what happened, that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. There's some type of explanation as to how

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Speaker 1: we got to know.

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Speaker 3: But but then if the NFL wanted to put the

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Speaker 3: cop boss, he would have been drafted at all. I

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Speaker 3: don't understand why would he be drafted at all if

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Speaker 3: they wanted to put him in his play.

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Speaker 1: I still believe that there are people who didn't like

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Speaker 1: his disposition, not that they're saying he done didn't need

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Speaker 1: to be drafted, but I don't there's something about him

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Speaker 1: I don't like or I don't like his disposition?

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Speaker 4: Is his attitude still NFL quarterback and he's in the game.

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Speaker 4: I just don't.

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Speaker 1: So I want to see if he gets his first

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Speaker 1: starter position where he gets the one snaps, and I

630
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Speaker 1: want to see what that looks like.

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Speaker 4: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Who's Masada? I can't say, but I can't say, bos TJ?

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Speaker 1: Up brod, what's happening?

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Speaker 8: What's up feeling?

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Speaker 4: He?

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Speaker 3: Hey, we got to get a couple of things. Definitely,

641
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Speaker 3: we want to chop it up with you. We were

642
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Speaker 3: just talking about the Chiefs before the season started. I

643
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Speaker 3: had them not making the playoffs. What's your gauge on them?

644
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Speaker 3: They don't win those games? They used to win all

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Speaker 3: the close games, Patrick Mahomes at the end, you give

646
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Speaker 3: them the ball with three four minutes, you losing those

647
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: days don't seem to be around anymore.

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Speaker 4: What's your read on it? Because that was coming off

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Speaker 4: of buy and that was a big game. TJ.

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Speaker 8: The thing I didn't have the Chiefs winning the division.

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Speaker 8: I just couldn't. I guess I didn't have the guests

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Speaker 8: to say they would make the playoffs, right that to

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Speaker 8: say that with the Chiefs. But they're just not They're

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Speaker 8: not good. They're not as good as they used to

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Speaker 8: be or last year the ball bouncer what they want.

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Speaker 8: They're eleven and one score games. I believe this year

657
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Speaker 8: are on fine god to be the playoff team. And

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Speaker 8: so every team they play, they gonna get the best

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Speaker 8: shot of every team they played. And they're just not

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Speaker 8: making the right plays at the right time. Like that

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Speaker 8: pick that Mahomes do in the red zone when he

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Speaker 8: had the back going into the end zone and the

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Speaker 8: corner pulled off, that was like did he really make

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Speaker 8: that throw?

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Speaker 4: And that was a ten point swing.

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Speaker 8: A huge swing. And think about this, they're five and five.

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Speaker 8: They played the Coats, who are really good next, and

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Speaker 8: then they played the lowly Cowboys, and then they played

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Speaker 8: the Texans with cy Strout with a great defense. They

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Speaker 8: lose those two games. They lose to the Coats, they

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Speaker 8: lose to the Texans. They might not make it because

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Speaker 8: after the Texans, they played the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: That they Broncos a game, right, Yeah, yeah, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 8: And so Robin, I will say this, that was a

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Speaker 8: great call by you because the percentage and the prospects

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Speaker 8: of them making the playoffs ain't looking good right now.

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Speaker 1: It's not they we were talking about earlier. I said

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Speaker 1: maybe two two losses, that's max they probably came and

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Speaker 1: that might even be pushing it.

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Speaker 4: TJ.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to another game that happened last night,

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Speaker 1: which was the Eagles beating the Lions. I wanted we

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Speaker 1: were talking about it, the Keta beating Jack Goffer is

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Speaker 1: out there beyond it's pressure. He can't scramble, he can't

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Speaker 1: get out of it like all these other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Do you get after him? He's right on it. It's

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Speaker 4: a whole different game plan.

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Speaker 1: Was that just a great defense that they went against,

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Speaker 1: because the last two games they lost were against some

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Speaker 1: of the best defense in the league in the Vikings

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles. Is that sustainable for other teams to

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Speaker 1: get at them like that or is it just those

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Speaker 1: were just two great teams?

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Speaker 8: Oh? No, it's the great teams because if it was

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Speaker 8: that easy, everybody would pressure the Detroit Lions and they

696
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Speaker 8: would do absolutely nothing. You pressure from if you want

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Speaker 8: some when they start throwing them slip screens the Jamier

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Speaker 8: Giz and you see how he was gashing Eagles. The

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Speaker 8: Eagles are just good enough to where is long as

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Speaker 8: Jamior Giz on score, they can still stop you. The

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Speaker 8: Eagles are so good because the Eagles didn't play well offensively.

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Speaker 8: Third defense is just so damn good. And it's like

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Speaker 8: Dan Campbell, your defense was very good.

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Speaker 4: Yep, kick, thank you, thank you. Come on, TJ. You

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Speaker 4: don't have to be a football coach for that. You

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Speaker 4: know you're in a tight.

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Speaker 8: Game, right It went oer for five? I believe on

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Speaker 8: four it was over followed.

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Speaker 4: What do you ask him?

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you if you're on the team, your receiver,

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Speaker 1: your Pro Bowl, or you're doing your thing.

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Speaker 4: You're saying I'm say anything. Do you yeah? Or do

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Speaker 4: you love that he trust you? Which which one is it?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 8: Listen all this love I trust my teammates or my

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Speaker 8: offensive score? Listen, man, I'm trying to win the game.

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Speaker 8: If I feel like I can't say nothing to the

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Speaker 8: head coach, which on the majority of all my teams

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Speaker 8: I could have said something to them, I probably would

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Speaker 8: have it on TJ. And if I can't, I'm going

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Speaker 8: to the quarterback like, hey, bron your coach to kick

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Speaker 8: the field.

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Speaker 3: Goal, these points, get these points on there, let's go here.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm tired of hearing like the Browns

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Speaker 3: want to win. They got a coach in the GM.

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Speaker 3: Come on with the They set up Schador to fail.

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Speaker 3: They don't want him to play, or they don't want

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Speaker 3: him to succeed or whatever. How come he just can't

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Speaker 3: Shador had a bad game. He'd he completed his first

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Speaker 3: two and then was two for fourteen, had a pick,

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Speaker 3: hold on to the ball too long. I mean, what

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Speaker 3: you watch. I'm not saying that one game makes you

733
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Speaker 3: or breaks you. But he didn't look good in that game.

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Speaker 3: Why can't it just be he didn't play well in

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Speaker 3: his first game in the NFL, rather than he don't

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Speaker 3: get no snaps and they didn't they didn't know his

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Speaker 3: cadence and.

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Speaker 4: They didn't every excuse other than he didn't play well.

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Speaker 4: Is it okay to say he didn't play well.

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Speaker 8: I believe anybody that watched that game and they're honest,

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Speaker 8: will say he did not play well.

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Speaker 4: That's it, that's it.

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Speaker 8: Know, he didn't play well. But there's always a butt

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Speaker 8: to this. Rod you know how hard it is to

745
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Speaker 8: go in the game when you've never really thrown to

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Speaker 8: any of these guys and be effective. Let alone, you're

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Speaker 8: a rookie and this is the first time you've ever

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Speaker 8: played in the National Football League in a regular season game.

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Speaker 8: That's hard. Look at Kirk Cousins, he's a veteran. He

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Speaker 8: got into the game. They had to lead what he

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Speaker 8: do and so it's not easy whether you're a vet

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Speaker 8: or a rookie. But when you're a rookie and you

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Speaker 8: have yet to play in the National Football League in

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Speaker 8: a regular season game and you get thrust into that

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Speaker 8: position against a team that's fighting.

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Speaker 3: For their life, there was this moment, though, the moment

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Speaker 3: was there to win that game at the end, I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying it was.

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Speaker 8: You're a rookie. You're a rookie, and I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 8: you this. People act like that. Cadence don't matter, man.

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Speaker 8: You got you got some quarterbacks. Let me so. Cadence

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Speaker 8: is color number. Color numbers set us so green eighty

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Speaker 8: green eighty to that that's one, green eighty green eighty

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Speaker 8: to go that's two, or you may just get first down.

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Speaker 8: And they snapped the ball every quarterback cadence is different,

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Speaker 8: you know, Lie. It takes time to get used to that. Now,

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Speaker 8: that's no excuse he didn't play well, But when you're

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Speaker 8: not getting any reps, it doesn't make it any easier

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Speaker 8: to play well.

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Speaker 3: I get the reps thing, but maybe they've watched him.

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Speaker 3: And here's the thing that that that we have to

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Speaker 3: look at two rookie quarterbacks, right, and if you've picked

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Speaker 3: Dart right, then you want to get him as many

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Speaker 3: reps as possible because you're trying. Abriel you mean, I mean, yeah, Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Dylan, Gabriel. You get my point, right, So

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Speaker 3: you want you've picked him, so you need to get

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Speaker 3: him as much as you can. So that's the reason.

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Speaker 3: Does that not make sense?

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Speaker 8: I played a long time. Every team I've been on,

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Speaker 8: the backup, the backup has always got reps with the

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Speaker 8: starters in practice. Every team I've ever been on. If

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Speaker 8: we're go seven on seven and there's twelve plays, the

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Speaker 8: backup is gonna get two to four reps, maybe maybe

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Speaker 8: two or three. You go team, the backup is gonna

785
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Speaker 8: get two to three reps. Nine on seven, the backup

786
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Speaker 8: is going to get reps with the starters here one

787
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Speaker 8: maybe one or two reps with the starters.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you this real quick, and we

789
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Speaker 3: got to run. Say he got some reps and he

790
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Speaker 3: still played that game. What would be the conversation today

791
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Speaker 3: if he if he got the reps and they heard

792
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Speaker 3: you wanted a few said he didn't play well, But

793
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Speaker 3: you talk to other people.

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Speaker 4: It's everybody's reps.

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Speaker 8: Reps are no reps. They still with a lost.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, J Yes, go ahead, Bro. I was gonna say,

797
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Speaker 1: we're up against it.

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Speaker 4: Man. We appreciate.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate me and him gonna argue about that at

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Speaker 1: the top of the next hour, so I don't worry

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Speaker 1: about it. We'll argue about it. Uh you you just

802
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: may have my argument. So that's coming up. It's just

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Speaker 1: a bit DJ. I appreciate you, Bro, Thank you, no

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Speaker 1: doubt