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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, I'm good, Thanks Harry, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 2: We're doing okay, it's waiting by the phone.

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Speaker 1: So what we're trying to figure out is why you

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Speaker 1: may have been ghosted by this guy that you met

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Speaker 1: on Hinge. So tell us about Christian that's his name.

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Speaker 1: You met on Hinge and then what happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my friends and I are calling him Christian Gray

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Speaker 3: by the way, you know, like because he's been so

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Speaker 5: Really weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know the fifty Shades is great guy,

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Speaker 3: Christian Gray. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we met on Hinge.

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Speaker 3: And we went out twice, and during our second date

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Speaker 3: we were like having a really good time. We were

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Speaker 3: even planning our third date, but then he just never

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean we don't often hear about a third

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Speaker 2: To know why.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let's call this guy just a second. We'll

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Speaker 2: Sound good, Yeah, that sounds great A hight stay right there.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, you've got to hear what happens next. In

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Speaker 1: part too of waiting about the phone, eat ease. Two

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Let's call Christian. Just to recap. You guys

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Speaker 1: met on the dating app Hinge and you went out twice.

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Speaker 1: On the second date, you were even planning the third date.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking into the future here. Except after the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really weird. I would love some clarity.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well let's call him right now. Good luck, Angela,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi is this Christian?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, this is see.

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Speaker 1: Hey Christian, good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling

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Speaker 1: from the Fred Show, that morning radio show. The whole

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Speaker 1: need your permission to continue. Is it okay if we

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Speaker 1: Her name is Angela. Says that you guys met on

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Speaker 6: So I'm deleting all my apps and I'd like you

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Speaker 2: And it's also not necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Just because someone's hot and you manage with them and

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I think I'm I mean, if I'm being honest,

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Speaker 1: How would you react to kiln if a guy, after

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Speaker 2: But that's dating. Who's next?

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Speaker 2: It's dating. It's a form of dating right at That's

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Speaker 6: But I didn't want that, you know, to get off

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Speaker 2: I don't think she wants that after two days she doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Probably you don't like no, like what happens after the

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Speaker 2: in a relationship. Yeah, and it doesn't mean that she

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I look, I see both sides, and

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Speaker 6: No, she didn't make that at all. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: So you're dating with intention to be monogamous. She's dating

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think I was created right.

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Speaker 6: It's like you download the app, find a person, she

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, it looks like you're gonna have to redownload that, homie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope you just pause it didn't delete it,

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Speaker 1: because it's a pain in the ass build your profile.

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Speaker 2: It's such a pain of the ass. But anyway, no,

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess if you if you really like somebody, it's

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Speaker 1: like I'd love to get I'd love to like focus

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Speaker 1: riff raft. But hey, look, you guys are very clearly

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Speaker 1: looking for different things, and so I guess it's not

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Speaker 1: a match. I'll ask, but Christian, would you would you

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Speaker 1: give her another shot? Would you go out with her again?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think the writings on the wall as

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Speaker 6: they say, it's just not a fit. Like I want

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Speaker 6: someone who wants to fully commit and try and you know,

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Speaker 6: be vulnerable, and if you got one foot out the

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Speaker 6: door the whole time, then you're not doing that, so don't.

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Speaker 1: But look, I mean, she did, in fairness, even though

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Speaker 1: she wants to quote unquote keep her options open, she

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Speaker 1: did wonder about you enough to call us and do

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Speaker 1: all this so, I mean, she obviously liked you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you never know what happens down the line.

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Speaker 7: That's why I think it's a little too early to

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Speaker 2: But hey, what do I know? Yeah? So, but no,

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Speaker 2: that's okay, that's right, staying your ground stand on business.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Business, that's right. Key. I mean, what about

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Speaker 2: have you ever been on the dating apps ski.

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Speaker 1: Kyr No, No, No, certain dating appsol that are like

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Speaker 1: he's if you're looking for a relationship like that's whatever,

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Speaker 1: harmony or whatever.

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Speaker 2: She didn't say she was a swinger. She's just ready

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Speaker 2: to commit a for two days, which is fair. Which fair.

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Speaker 2: There's certain ones like whatever, Hinge or tinders, like the

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Speaker 1: I don't think it matters what app though, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it matters if it's Hinge or Tinder

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Speaker 1: to be intentional and be with one person, then that's

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Speaker 1: your prerogative. She he is, and she's looking right now

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Speaker 1: to sort of maybe not yet, make that discrimination also

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Speaker 1: her prerogative. Neither one of them are wrong. They're just

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Speaker 1: looking for two different things. And look, if I want

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Speaker 1: more emphasis on trying to make that work. If I'm

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Speaker 1: she might be open to that. But yet they're not

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Speaker 7: So so how I would say that Fred though, is Hey,

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Speaker 7: just so you know you could do whatever you want.

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Speaker 7: I'm really into you, and I'm going to delete my

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Speaker 7: apps right and then you let them respond and it's

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Speaker 7: not like controlling, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that makes a lot of sense. I

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Speaker 1: think that makes a lot of sense. But I can

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Speaker 1: see the insecurity of knowing that you've got somebody great

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Speaker 1: and they're like, no, I want to keep going on

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Speaker 1: other dates. It's like, well that doesn't Yeah, we're not

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Speaker 1: building anything then, but that she doesn't want to so

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Speaker 1: it's all good. So nobody's really on the wrong, but

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Speaker 1: it's not going to work out. Guys, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for your time. Best to look to both of you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, I appreciate you.