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Speaker 2: We are bathed in the morning light.

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Speaker 1: We've been doing this series of Morning Time on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: all the latest hippis cutting edge culture that you deserve, Readers.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever catch those commercials for that store Tuesday

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Speaker 1: a culture untold, which is the culture most alluring type

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Speaker 2: Oh, is that potential early title of EP contender culture untold.

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Speaker 2: Let me just do a quick google. Yes, Tuesday Morning.

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Speaker 1: Why I go to Tuesday Morning. See what you're getting

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Speaker 1: exactly as advertised with MS Mama. You know she shows up,

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Speaker 1: you're at one half of culture is what's your favorite

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Speaker 1: Well, honestly, you have seen more than enough, clearly because

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I sometimes would rather be conversing over steak

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Speaker 1: I have done nothing of this sort. Are you returning

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Speaker 2: I have the same hang ups about improv, like it's

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Speaker 2: You said three fingers, three fingers, and then improv went

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Speaker 1: Stay in line if you're in line for Bowen Yang

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Speaker 2: I just got to dance backstage with her, I got

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00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: to talk to her, I just got to like soak

438
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: in her energy. She is eighty three years old. She

439
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: has a vibrancy and a youthfulness and just the energy

440
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: is incredible. This woman is like so just a completely

441
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: sharp and serene and so like alive and it's just

442
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 2: like cracking jokes with me and like she just this

443
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: woman is in her damn thirties. It seems like energetically

444
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 2: not that like the number really matters, but like this

445
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: is someone who has seen a lot of life and

446
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 2: a lot of tragedy and a lot of hardship and

447
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: has seen her friends get arrested for like protesting wars

448
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 2: and has seen MLK like up close and personal and

449
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: has had to suffer through that loss and just these

450
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: different movements kind of coming and going, but she has

451
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: been so steadfast and wavering in all of them. And

452
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: she is an incredible musician on top of that. And

453
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: you know it was her. It was Laurie Anderson, who

454
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 2: is this like legendary performance artist basically like invented the

455
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: votecoder as far as I'm concerned, not really, but like

456
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: her and that French guy anyway. But it was Laurie

457
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: running this with Philip. Matthew Rogers was there. I saw

458
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: Maya Hawk, Christian Lee Hudson, just an incredible energy of

459
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: just amazing artists. And then Philip Glass himself showed up

460
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: just like taking it all in. He is he doesn't

461
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: play the piano anymore, but I think he still just

462
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: like understands that, like he created this thing that his

463
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: work stands for this and Hal Wilner used to read

464
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: Alan Ginsburg poetry. They've had like Colbert read it, like

465
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves. Wead all these random people now me among them,

466
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: random guys reading this Alan Ginsburg poem and Carnegie Hall

467
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: it stirn auditoriums really spad. It was at night I'll

468
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: never forget, and it just it came off of the

469
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: heels of like a really weird couple months at work,

470
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 2: I'll say, And it was just very life affirming in

471
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: a way that I need.

472
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds very fortifying. Yeah, that's really really really nice.

473
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: I'm happy you got to have that experience. I'm like,

474
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: that is it's really important. I think in like such

475
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: a in a goal time, I'm incredible to be around

476
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: people that are still pushing forward and still singing the

477
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: same song as the words they have been for decades,

478
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: which is, you know, one of peace and you know

479
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: that that actually there's like a group of people which

480
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: is the focus is the positive and how to move

481
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: forward and how to move out of a time of

482
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: violence and anger, and it's just really beautiful.

483
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: We all literally sang the same song that they have

484
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 2: been for decades, which was we all sang we shall overcome.

485
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: At the end, Joan Baiez like leading the audience of

486
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: thousands to saying we shall overcome. And I was like,

487
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: I can't believe. And I like thanked her afterwards. I

488
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: was like I never thought that would happen. I'm so honored,

489
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. And then Joan says this

490
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: thing now we're like I think she was on Colbert

491
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: the past year where Colbert was asking her like what

492
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: did you make of things happening now? Like how do

493
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: we get through this time and she's like, you know,

494
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 2: like everyone now says, oh, I wish I could have

495
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: been part of the sixties or all these different movements,

496
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: because you guys had all the music and the politics

497
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 2: were you know, very specific and tense, and it all

498
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: paired together nicely with that. But she goes, what we

499
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: had back then was the glue, and what we're missing

500
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: now is the glue that the sense that we can

501
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: all do this thing together.

502
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: And I don't think we have that. And I think

503
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: but for a.

504
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: Fleeting moment you can see it sort of like within

505
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: reach on a night like last night, and it was

506
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: just a huge honor. So I was very grateful to

507
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: be a part of that. I mean, Joan Biez is finalist,

508
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: you know.

509
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just thinking to myself, like what if

510
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: she was, like by the way I identify as a finalist.

511
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I used to like her podcast, but I don't like

512
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: it anymore.

513
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: You guys are too filtered now.

514
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I was just thinking like her talking about like,

515
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, there used to be like an assurance in

516
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: the sixties that there was this glue, and you know,

517
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: wondering if we still have it now. I think we

518
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: do have it now in that like, you guys could

519
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: all gather at that event last night and like have

520
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: such an almost unspoken common purpose and you really all

521
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: know why you're there. I think that that is still there,

522
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: like it's always been there. There are people that want

523
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: to see change and positive change. But I do think

524
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: that there are so many pockets of distraction now and

525
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 1: so many ways in which we can get discouraged because

526
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: of the Internet and because of the way that media

527
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: thrives now, which is in that push and pull in

528
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: between pessimism and optimism, between like I guess like conservative

529
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: and progressive. It just feels like there's so much tug

530
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: of war going on that it can feel really distracting.

531
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: But I think even the fact that you guys were

532
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: able to gather last night and we still can like

533
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: think about, you know, the hope that we felt, you know,

534
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: generation to generation when it comes to these songs, when

535
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: it comes to these people, when it comes to these

536
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: ideas that obviously, like you can't leave a night last

537
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: night and think, well, hope is lost because you literally

538
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: were a part of it in the moment, And I

539
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that maybe is something to

540
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: pull from that is to not get distracted because there

541
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: are like minded people with the goal of peace, and

542
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: that is going to be something I think that's really

543
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: important to hold dear and remember as we move forward

544
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: into you know, potential darker times in darker months, which

545
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: I've really as of late, I feel like I've been

546
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: trying to wrap my head around the fact that they

547
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: might you know, rear their ugly head again.

548
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I really want to move forward with

549
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: that mindset and also quickly want to talk about say it.

550
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: A big video game release. Oh yes, I thought you

551
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: were going to mention something else, but this, I know,

552
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: this is huge culture. What did you think I was

553
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: going to say? I just wanted to say shout out

554
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: to Adie Bryan for her Independent Spirits Awards hosting. That

555
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: was so good when you said to Natalie Boorman that

556
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: you were going to start roasting the crowd. Hey Natalie,

557
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: you stupid bitch.

558
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: Immediately something in that moment, something like field in the culture.

559
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we saw an award show hosted by a

560
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: funny purse.

561
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: With the help of funny people Cudie Green, Frank Gillespie,

562
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: Peach Duck pattent Celestian.

563
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: You already know the casts and crew. I mean, that

564
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: is the job done perfectly.

565
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. And like the later

566
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: bits were great too. They did like a Q and

567
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: A thing or was that in the top it or

568
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: is that later on? I may have only seen the monologue.

569
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: Oh they did a whole like host and they're like,

570
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: you know, so like a lot of you guys are

571
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: indie filmmakers, you guys understand a weird part of promoting

572
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: your film or screeting your film is the audience Q

573
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: and A after, So let's just do some of that.

574
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: And then it was like different people coming up and

575
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: then Farrell at the end, our boss, no less, our boss,

576
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: my boss twice though, your boss twice. Farrell coming up

577
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: and being like eighty, I love the swag bags for

578
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: this show. Look at this and he brings them like

579
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: a giant purse and he's like, I've got like little

580
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: men's I've got like some used contact lenses.

581
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: I've got like someone's sunglasses. And she's like, no, no, no,

582
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: that's my that's my purse. Will like, that's just very.

583
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: It's my first.

584
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: It's very.

585
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: That is eighty. Good job. Bring back Dumb, Bring back

586
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: comedy comedy. Yeah, she was great, But talk about your

587
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: big video game release, because I know this one has

588
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: been tickling your fancy.

589
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: Well, we connected over this on FaceTime the other day.

590
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: We did.

591
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: We did of Lauren Alred.

592
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Yes, who has been slaying america'scott talent. I guess, so

593
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: this is the backstory. So Lauren Allred is the singer

594
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: of never Enough. The gays know this because this became

595
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: like a moment, a whole moment. You may have danced

596
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: to the club version, or you may just have gotten

597
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: wrapped up in the power of never Enough from The

598
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: Greatest Showman in the film, which I know I certainly did.

599
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: When I saw this movie years ago with Sudi Green.

600
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: We were so high in Times Square Eagle watching Greatest

601
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: Showman and never Enough was happening, and I turned to

602
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Suny and I was like, this is the best song

603
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: of all time, and she was like, you are so stupid.

604
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: You might have also familiarized yourself with the club remix

605
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: of this song that was playing when two circuit queens

606
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: were fighting each other in Mikinos. I think in twenty

607
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen.

608
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: This song has a place in the culture, and stay tuned,

609
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: stay tuned because it might be a nominee for Record

610
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: of the Year. Are you serious? We have not discussed this.

611
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are crazy. The cat might have

612
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: gotten out of the bag there, but it might be

613
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: a front runner for Record of the Year that and

614
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: single soon.

615
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm sorry, And I said twenty fifteen,

616
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. Greatest Shoman came out twenty seventeen, so I

617
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: just want to correct.

618
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: That that year. We're not sure as long as ime

619
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: ago or not.

620
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: You are nuts.

621
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not for that one girl, But what I'm

622
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: saying is that this song was sung Lauren already. So

623
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: now flash forward years later. She never really gets the

624
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: credit because Rebecca Ferguson lip sync for her life in

625
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: the film.

626
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: And she did make it seem like she's saying it.

627
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: She Rebecca Ferguson, great actor, and I had no qualms

628
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: about that lipsyn performance because it was from the heart.

629
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: It seemed like mama was the singer, and she was

630
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: in that gorgeous dress, that gown, no notes, no notes,

631
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: but she was not singing like the rest of the cast.

632
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: Lauren Alrup was singing years past. Now she's on America's

633
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Got talent slay ying like best singer alive vibes. And

634
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: then I bring this to the attention of my sister

635
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: and he says to me this information.

636
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: That she sings the new Final Fantasy Sevin Rebirth theme

637
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: song that Eric sings. When I guess she is in

638
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: a very greatest showman like setup, like never Enough setup,

639
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: where she's just kind of on a stage in a

640
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: white dress, like belting her tips off.

641
00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: How's this?

642
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay, okay. Final Fantasy has a very

643
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: queer slash gay circuit girl slash La fag West Hollywood

644
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: slash Chelsea Hell's kitchen sensibility when it comes to We've

645
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: talked about this before, how Leona Lewis sang the song

646
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: for Final Fantasy thirteen. Yeah, and fey wong to Final

647
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: Fantasy eight. That's a pretty gay girl or girl for

648
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: the gays, and it's just a pretty queer I think

649
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: they've really leaned in. Maybe they've always known. Maybe I'm

650
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: just kind of catching up to this like very intentional

651
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: thing that this very weird, kooky video game series has

652
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: like stuck to for many decades now.

653
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: Final Fantasy and James Cameron have always known what the

654
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: faggots want, and that's actually where the colts are number

655
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: forty nine. Final Fantasy and James Cameron have always known

656
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Speaker 1: the fact baggots want Leona Lewis in both of those franchises.

657
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all I'm saying is Leona Lewis. The

658
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: only thing that was wrong with uh see you is

659
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: that she wasn't blue while she was saying it. She

660
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: should have been an avatar like look in through the

661
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Dream so I know every word too. She should have

662
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: been blue as hell, then it would have been better.

663
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: Should have been blue as hell. Does Lauren already appear

664
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: in the video games singing?

665
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: She does not appear in the video games singing the

666
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: Rebecca Ferguson and this is many many people's first girlfriends,

667
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 2: Eric Gainsborough. So she is this, Matt, Oh my god,

668
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: you would be obsessed with er. She is the last

669
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: of the ancients.

670
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: What come again?

671
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: So basically I want a quickly summarized Final Fantasy seven

672
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: for people who aren't aware this game comes out in

673
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety seven. Okay, just think about that big year,

674
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: big cultural year, huge cultural year. But the game basically

675
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 2: takes place in like a dystopian cyberpunk fantasy world. You

676
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: start off in a city called Midgar and it is

677
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: run by a corporation. The government is the corporation. Is

678
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 2: this like fascist nineteen eighty four vibes, Well, it's They're

679
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: called Shinra and they're an electricity company. And what they

680
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: do is they take energy from the planet. They basically

681
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: suck the life force from the planet into maco energy

682
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: and that's how they make their money and that's how

683
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: they run things. Is cracking, well, it's destroying the it's

684
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: fracking its oil, it's all these things. It's like sucking

685
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: the life out of the planet. And you play cloud Strife,

686
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: a mercenary who is working with an eco terrorist organization

687
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: called Avalanche. It like it makes a case for like

688
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: eco terrorism being the only way forward. And but Final

689
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: Fantasy seven was doing this in ninety seven, where you

690
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: basically play this mercenary and then after you blow up

691
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: one of the reactors, you meet Erith, this girl who

692
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: is the last of the ancient. She sells flowers in

693
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: the street. What she lives in an abandoned church.

694
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: Who plays her in a movie?

695
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: Here are the people who have played her so far. Okay,

696
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: you're gonna fucking lose your mind.

697
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait too.

698
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: The girl who's playing her now is a wonderful voice actor.

699
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: But in Kingdom Hearts, when they first gave voice to

700
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: these people, Erth was voiced in Kingdom Hearts IWO. She's

701
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: voiced by Mina Suvari dag terribly. I might add, I'm sorry,

702
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: Mina Subari, we love you, but you were not a

703
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 2: going to Erath. Okay, I just have to say that.

704
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: But Kingdom Hearts won, and this was the perfect voice acting.

705
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: And I do want to ask her about this when

706
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: she is on the pod. Mandy Moore, you better shut

707
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: the fuck up. Mandy Moore was I was gonna say

708
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: that as a joke. No, it was her. Look up.

709
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: Kingdom Hearts won, Mandy Moore, Eirath.

710
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: Why didn't she return? We have to ask her.

711
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, we have to ask her. But then

712
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: so basically she is this like Serene just pressed. She

713
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: like heels you back to life. But she's like funny

714
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: and cue she flirts with the She's like, don't flive

715
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: with me. I have a boyfriend.

716
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: You know. The front runner for title of that for

717
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: Mandy Moore's episode is the last of the Ancients, the last.

718
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 2: Andy Moore is Oh my god, I totally didn't even

719
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: mention that.

720
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: Last week, like I call okay. And then the person

721
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: who voiced the villain in the I want to be him,

722
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, separo Kingdom Hearts one Lance Bass whoa Okay,

723
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: So it's possible for me.

724
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is the thing, so square Enix, this is

725
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: so Kingdom Hearts is I know, Disney Final Fantasy, Final

726
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: Fantasy like casting Hayden Pannetier Britney Snow Jesse, Oh my god,

727
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: what's that guy's Oh my god, I love him and

728
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: I want it in the pretty face and I want

729
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: Jesse McCartney plays Roxis Hailey, Jolasmer plays Sore like the

730
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: voice cast is stacked and also gay yay, Matt, I

731
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: think you really? I think Kingdom Heart is a perfect

732
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: way in for you for video games. Can I do

733
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 2: it on my switch? Yes, you got me a switch.

734
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: I got you a switch. But I think I don't

735
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: know there's something there. It's Disney and it's all these

736
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: fucking gay actors, all right, gay as in like they

737
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: appealed to a certain audience.

738
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, like you said the words Mina Samari and

739
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: I had no other questions.

740
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: David Borian as anyway, Oh yeah, for sure.

741
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: Wow he was a hunky Hatty. Huh yeah, Hunky Hotty

742
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: is Chad Michael Murray in the game.

743
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: He is not? He is not else's in the game.

744
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: Hold on Kingdom Hearts voice cast. There are some true slays.

745
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: David Gallagher cal in Titanic plays as them of the

746
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: villain in the first game, Willa Holland.

747
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: From the Ocua.

748
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: Willa Holland slays in Kingdom Hearts three is Aqua. Oh

749
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: my god, you know what teen actor.

750
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: I have questions about where he is? Where is Simon

751
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: from Seventh teven?

752
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, oh no, no no, I'm sorry David Gallagher.

753
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: They just had the wrong headshot on Google. David Gallagher

754
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: is Riku. That's Simon from Seventh Heaven right.

755
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: Wait is that true?

756
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: Billy Zane is Anthem and he's Calulm Titanic.

757
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: That's what I meant. Sorry, I got my headshots mixed up.

758
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: But David Simon Camden was played by David Gallagher.

759
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: And David Gallagher is Riku like the main your rival

760
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: in Kingdom Hearts Matt like this game is made for

761
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: you with me.

762
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in the culture from back then that's

763
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: more Matt coded than David Gallagher. No, I'm going to

764
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: send you a picture of his Wikipedia photo. Tell me

765
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: this is not me if I'm famous in two thousand

766
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: and three. Just literally, I'm sending this sea right now. Okay.

767
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: I shuddered to think about what I would have looked like,

768
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: the vibe I would have given off if I was

769
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: famous in two thousand and three.

770
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: Just take a look at that and tell me that.

771
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: Tell me that is not me. I just said it

772
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: to you. It probably went through.

773
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is so you Look at his easy,

774
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: broken bang.

775
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: With the bean, so handsome. I loved him. I used

776
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: to have such a crush on him when I was

777
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: like litter. Oh my god, he was such a heart throb. Absolutely.

778
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: What's he doing now? Is he still acting?

779
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: Well?

780
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: He was in an episode of Swat in twenty twenty.

781
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: They're making a Kingdom Hearts for whoa He's in all

782
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: the Kingdom Hearts is He's like a huge, fucking he

783
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: is Riku. You're gonna jerk off to Riku if you live.

784
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, Riku like starts off like as this, like,

785
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, tough kid and kind of like bullies you.

786
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: But then he becomes the ages. Well, Sora doesn't really

787
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: age well. The main character, sore I played by Hailey

788
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: Jo Lasman, iconic character, doesn't really grow up, but Ricu

789
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: grows has to grow the fuck up because he gets

790
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: possessed by some dark way whoa maleficent captures him and

791
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: corrupts his his mind.

792
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: You're kidding. I'm gonna to get into this because I

793
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: might see myself in Riku. You are Riku.

794
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: Sometimes this is a Glenna alphabet situation where it's like

795
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: you and I are both Riku and Sora, but it flips,

796
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: it switches every now and then you are Sora down

797
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: on a lot of days. I'm Riku down a lot

798
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: of days, but sometimes we trade those off, you know

799
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: what I mean? Should title that be Sora and Riku?

800
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh my god, Matt, you don't know what's about

801
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: to come your way.

802
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: The readers Katie's public is Finalists who love Kingdom Hearts

803
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: are out there. I believe that they are, and they

804
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: will be reaching out to you.

805
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: If you could do one other podcast about your niche interest,

806
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: what would it be? Final Fantasy. It would be Final Fantasy.

807
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: Including Kingdom Hearts, including Dragon Class like these video games

808
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: Persona like these are video games that are queer coded

809
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: and have been since the dawn of time immemorial. Yeah, anyway,

810
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: Final Fantasy seven Rebirth, it's like the most money squares

811
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: ever put out in a game. It's like basically like

812
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: making a meta commentary on like fan culture and rebook

813
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: culture too, in the cleverest way, Like it's within the

814
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: story that like there's this force called the Whispers, and

815
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: you kill them off in the first game, and then

816
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: the timeline starts to diverge, and then it becomes like

817
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: they're telling the story in a way that has been

818
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: told before, so you kill them off, and it's like

819
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: killing off of the fan base voice that says things

820
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: should be a certain way. Isn't that brilliant?

821
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why haven't they done more like these movies of this,

822
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: Like it feels like they have and they they're all

823
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Why do you think that is?

824
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: Because the people who produce and direct and write the

825
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: movies are the people who produce and direct and write

826
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: the video games, and it's just a different medium, Like

827
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: they're able to they don't have a sense of the

828
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: pacing and of the way the story is told. Like

829
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: video games, you kind of like, I would say, it's

830
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: kind of harder in video games to like unfurl a

831
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: narrative because so much of it is about the player's

832
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: control and how they choose to end up hitting certain

833
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: beats in Some of the games are very linear, and

834
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: some of them are more open ended Zelda, for example.

835
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 2: The recent ones that I've talked about have been open

836
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: world where it's not linear at all, and it's very

837
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: hard to tell a story that way because you can't

838
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: quite get the player to land at certain places as

839
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: the story is told. But I think the movies are

840
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: really rough and I wouldn't watch those. Don't pay those

841
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: much attention.

842
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: So do you think that when the worlds are more

843
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: expansive and more open, that's just a much more difficult

844
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: adaptation than something like The Last of Us, which follows

845
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: a storyline.

846
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm literally playing The Last of Us again

847
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: right now. I never beat the first one, sorry to admit,

848
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: So I'm finally like I want to beat it. I'm

849
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: really loving it. And that is a linear game, like

850
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: you are on a track because you're running away from

851
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 2: these fucking mushroomies right right, right, right right, And it's

852
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: kind of That's the brilliant thing about The Last of

853
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: Us is that it's sort of built in. It's cinematic

854
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: because the story is completely on the rails in a

855
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: way that doesn't make the player feel like they're just

856
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: clicking buttons.

857
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: Got it read a story so in a way that's

858
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: less interesting because there's less to discover, But it could

859
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: be more compelling if the story they're telling is that compelling. Yes,

860
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: and it happens to be extremely compelling, by the way.

861
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Congrats to Pedro. Rats to Pedro on the sag lead win.

862
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: I realized that something about Pedro Pescal. If I am

863
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: ever having a hard time or a bad day, or

864
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: have ever doing something I think is hard, I can

865
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: just think of Pedro Pescal smiling and laughing and it

866
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 1: will make me feel bad.

867
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: Oh I know, I know. It's a really important smile

868
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: and an important laugh.

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00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like he carries the light. And it's

870
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: less about him being like super fucking hot or super

871
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: fucking talented. It's just I enjoy him. He's a nice person.

872
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: I like his presence a lot. I liked watching him win.

873
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: I liked watching him be so you know, befuddled in

874
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: his win. I liked watching him backstage, Like I just

875
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: I just like him, Like I don't know what it

876
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: is beyond that, I just really enjoy him as a

877
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: celebrity presence.

878
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: He's very winning.

879
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also I like that he seems to

880
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: be really comfortable with himself. That's what I'll say about it,

881
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: is that, like he wins this award, he seems like

882
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: really genuine and then he's vackstage doing his thing. And

883
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: I just think he's emblematic of like people having to

884
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: be less of a platonic ideal of what a leading

885
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: man is and acts like. And I'll leave it there

886
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: because I don't know what's cool to say, but like

887
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: I just really appreciate and admire him. Yeah.

888
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Oh and he's also a perfect model for like there

889
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: is no right way to go about a career in

890
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: something that is so uncertain as like acting or Hollywood

891
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: or whatever. You know, It's like his big breaks were

892
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: like late late.

893
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: No guarantees, and you know what I'm saying, Like maybe

894
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: that's also part of it is I'm just like that's

895
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: someone who really fucking hung in yeah, you know what

896
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: I mean, because even I guess I don't know, like

897
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: when did things really start turning around for him, Like

898
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: probably I guess like ten years ago Game of Thrones

899
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: whatever it was, but Thrones, Yeah, before that, like he

900
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: probably could not even get people to even like perk

901
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: up at the sound of his name, you know what

902
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he was not what he is now

903
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: really recently. And then it feels like it's that one

904
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: thing that changes the other thing that changes the other thing.

905
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: But apparently it was like the Sarah Paulson in him

906
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: saga goes way back and I guess she knew the

907
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones people and was like, you should definitely

908
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: see my friend Petro Pescal for this, and they were like, well,

909
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: we don't know who that is, and then they like

910
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: kicked around on it for a while, and then he

911
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: obviously booked Game of Thrones and was like so memorable

912
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: and sexy and great and met Game of Thrones that

913
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you book him for so many other things?

914
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: But you know, it just feels to me like that's

915
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: someone that really hung in. Yeah, we gotta hang in, y'all,

916
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: and good thing because he makes our landscape like our

917
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: like pop culture landscape, like so much more interesting, you

918
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

919
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: Like he's like such a cool a list member of

920
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: the the whole.

921
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: Thing right now.

922
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's one of the few people who like

923
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: gets people really worked up in like a pop star

924
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 2: way almost. Yeah, you know what I mean?

925
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: How was he not sexiest man alive? Like he is

926
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: the sexiest man alive?

927
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

928
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Y? Who was it again? I forget who?

929
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: Literally?

930
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: Was it a no? I know that they were like

931
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: behind the times in terms of who they picked, but like,

932
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was afflic Oh it was Dempsey. Yeah.

933
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: That's my thing is I'm like, you're twenty twenty three.

934
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: We picked Patrick Dempsey in twenty twenty three, when like

935
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: Pedro Pascal is right there, like that man is he's

936
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: so sexy.

937
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: He is beyond off the charts.

938
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: I can't think about it. I mean, I get it.

939
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: It's overwhelming. It's overwhelming. Now should we do you want

940
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: to talk about the year of this episode? Do you

941
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: do you want to? Wait?

942
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if I do, you know what I mean, Like,

943
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm just it's a big one.

944
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: It's a big one, and I feel like you guys,

945
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: just you know piek behind the curtain. I'm not feeling

946
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 1: that well.

947
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 2: Oh.

948
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: I woke up this morning, like and last night I

949
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: tried to like sneak up on me. It must be

950
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: some sort of like tiny little cold thing going around.

951
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: Are you did you say you don't feel good either?

952
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: I feel something too.

953
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: I woke up. The seasons are changing now officially because

954
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm waking up with like iboggers and shit, and I'm like, yeah,

955
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: here we go.

956
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: I really had like a park it on the couch.

957
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: I also like, I've been working out a lot, and

958
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: so I think my body is just like telling me

959
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: to relax a little bit. Maybe just because I've been

960
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: I tend to I don't know, like the pist season me,

961
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: like the addictive personality roars out sometimes. And when I

962
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: find something that works for me, like especially something healthy

963
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: and I feel positive about and I do feel like

964
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting results from going every day and working out

965
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: and stuff like, I tend to push it a little

966
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: bit hard. So I think my body is just trying

967
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: to tell me, like, hey, remember moderation. Remember we made

968
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: like a promise that things would be about moderation this

969
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: year wouldn't be about extremes. Like that's something I'm really

970
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: trying to hold to throughout this year, is like not

971
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: dealing with things in extreme so much, just trying to

972
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: be you know, more intentional about Like it's not like

973
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: know this or you have to do this, it's like,

974
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: try to do this, try to do that, like get

975
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: yourself in a healthy place with it. That's very good.

976
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to slow down right now and just

977
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: listen to my body. But I had like a park

978
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: it and watch movies moment yesterday and I watched a

979
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: couple of things, one Old one New Balance. But I

980
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you I watched Eternal Sun China The

981
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: Spotless Mind last night.

982
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: Again on Valentine's Day.

983
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: But I know and I think the reason why I

984
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: did that is because you had done that. And I

985
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: also think I'm you know, anticipating our honest ol, what

986
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: a movie.

987
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: What a really fucking good movie. Yeah, it's so great,

988
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: like and like one of those movies that I will say,

989
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: and I'm sure I'm my knowledge of movies is not

990
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: expansive enough, but it's like it's one of those movies

991
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: that's like anyone can be like that's my favorite movie.

992
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: And no one can really poke a hole in that.

993
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, it's like Charlie Coffin, like Gondry film,

994
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: but it's also like it has mass appeal. It's telling

995
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: this amazing story very elegantly conceptualized, but like funny performances,

996
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: emotional performances. Obviously, Kirsten, Oh, Kirsten rocks man like, she

997
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: just rocks.

998
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: Like.

999
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: She's so good in it. Kate's so good in it.

1000
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: Jim is so good in it. I love Mark Ruffalo

1001
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: so much, Tom Wilkinson Rest in Peace. Elijah Wood, Elijah Wood,

1002
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, so good enough, He's so good, he's so

1003
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: cute like and also Mark Ruffalo in any era. I'm

1004
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: just a total super fan. That was.

1005
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: That was a cute era for him.

1006
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: Oh so cute.

1007
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: Deirdre O'Connell, by the way, plays the wife who shows up.

1008
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a really good performance too. You can

1009
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: have him you already you already did you did? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1010
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: don't be a monster.

1011
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: Tell the girl.

1012
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: Oh so good. Deardroconna, tony legend, Deardre O'Connell. I saw

1013
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: her in that play.

1014
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: Anyway, what play she was in?

1015
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 2: Dana age, and she wanted Tony for that, And can

1016
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 2: I just brag real quick?

1017
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: Sure?

1018
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: So Celeste chok me to go see Celestium. Friend of

1019
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: the podcast, one of our best friends took me to

1020
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 2: see this play that Lucas Nath wrote and it's her.

1021
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: It's Deirdre O'Connell sitting on stage basically lip syncing tapes

1022
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: of Lucas's mother. This like really crazy incident that happened

1023
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: to Lucas's mother where she was basically in Florida and

1024
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: was kidnapped and kind of like does an interview about it,

1025
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: and just like it was recorded and it's Deerdre O'Connell

1026
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: lip syncing the entire interview basically, and she wanted Tony

1027
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: for it. She was amazing, and they were trying to

1028
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: talk Deirdre into doing it and she was like, no,

1029
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: I don't know the lip sinking things. That sounds like

1030
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: such a weird gimmick, Like, I don't that doesn't sound

1031
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: like anything to me, And I have on good authority

1032
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: that the producers showed Dana videos of me lip sinking,

1033
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: and then she was like it can be art.

1034
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it.

1035
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 3: Well.

1036
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: She literally was like Okay, I'm seeing this person do

1037
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: it in a way that is like a funny of

1038
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: course and like joking and gimmicky, but like, there is

1039
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: a way to be so precise about this. I'm not

1040
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: saying whatever she's like, there's a way to be precise

1041
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: enough about this to make it to elevate the material.

1042
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: Let's do it how much zero zero. I'm not saying

1043
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: that I take any credit. I'm saying that one of

1044
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: my greatest accomplishments is doing something that ever even showed

1045
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: up in front of Deerdre O'Connell's eyes.

1046
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: Hm.

1047
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: That's all and anyway, this is all to say, eternal sunshine, okay.

1048
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: And then what was the new thing? I watched Naiad?

1049
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: And I have to tell you it's so much better

1050
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: than I thought it was gonna be.

1051
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: Like, okay, good, then I'll watch it too.

1052
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: I really like there had been months ago there had

1053
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: been this goofy clip of Naiad where they're playing table tennis,

1054
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: and Annette and Jody were so bizarre in this clip

1055
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: and out of context it was so it didn't seem good, okay,

1056
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like, no way. And then

1057
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: when I kind of in my mind had like solidified

1058
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: on what I thought we're gonna be like the Oscar

1059
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: Contenders and stuff, and then Annett and Jody really stuck

1060
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: in there. I was like angsty about it. Then I

1061
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: finally watched the movie. I loved this movie. Like I

1062
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: think it's obviously you know, the best thing about it

1063
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: or the two of their performances, but really winning sports movie,

1064
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of a classic story of just determine

1065
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: nation and everyone telling you you can't do something, and

1066
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: you being a very specific type of person because she

1067
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: was not really a nice person. She was not necessarily

1068
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: like someone you root for, Like she was very one

1069
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: track minded, and I would say, like the movie really

1070
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: needs Jodie Foster to like take to some of the

1071
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: edge off. But their performances are great. Jody is so

1072
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: great in this and that been for some reason, I

1073
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: thought like if Annette had won for this, it would

1074
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: feel like a light wind or like it would feel

1075
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: like a career. Yeah, like we were just tossing her

1076
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: a bone. It wouldn't feel like that at all. Like, really,

1077
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: it is really hard to play physical brutality, like in

1078
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: terms of like when your body is going through something

1079
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: and your body has to fight against elements and you're

1080
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: literally like your interior is taking over in a way

1081
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: that is really hard to act. It's one of the

1082
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: reasons why I'm such a huge fan out of Sandra

1083
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: Bullock's Gravity performance is because she was playing so much

1084
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: of the physical reality of what it means to be

1085
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: suffering or fighting for your life in that way. And

1086
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: a lot of that is here in this bending Naiad performance,

1087
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: like the elements wearing away at her in the water,

1088
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: there's no question when you're watching it that she's actually

1089
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: going through this. I mean, it had to be a

1090
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: wild shoot. She's in the water a lot, you know,

1091
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't appear to be very cgi ish. It appears

1092
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: like she's doing a lot of practical work here. And

1093
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: by the end when she's gone through her like fifth

1094
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: attempt at doing this Cuba to Florida Keys swim, which

1095
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: really like it's if she did actually do it, And

1096
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 1: there is some dispute whether or not she actually buy

1097
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: the book by the rules in terms of what they

1098
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: say is an actual achievement here of the swim, like

1099
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: did it ten out of ten? One hundred percent above board?

1100
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: But like this story of determination like is one thing

1101
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: and it would be a winning script and winning performance anyway.

1102
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: But what puts it over the edge for me, and

1103
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: really it makes this nomination worthy is the really just

1104
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: very raw depiction of what it is to be worn

1105
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: away by this physical feat and these elements. There is

1106
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: a jellyfish attack that is one of the scariest moments. No,

1107
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 1: I'm not watching Bowen. These jellyfish come for and net

1108
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: in some way they need to. We need we need

1109
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: an Andy Cone reunion with a net jellyfish center couch,

1110
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: center couch and Jody's the fair friend of on the

1111
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: side like one anyway, but like, this movie was great

1112
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: and the performance is great, and Jody's super winning in it.

1113
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: They're just stars. And yeah, I feel like I was,

1114
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, poopooing these nominations because I didn't know better

1115
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: and I saw.

1116
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 2: The movie and well, the voices you listen to, the

1117
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: to the punditry of it all, it wasn't even that.

1118
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: It's just with the oscars, you guys. I know I

1119
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: sound nasal today. I'm really sorry because I don't. I

1120
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: don't like listening to people's voices when they're sick and

1121
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: doing a podcast. I apologize. I don't like the way

1122
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: I sound right now. But what I'm saying is I

1123
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: think that I really don't like it when it feels

1124
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: like we're just throwing an oscar at someone because we

1125
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: feel bad like that. And this is not that at all.

1126
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: It just is not that at all. Like it is.

1127
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: It's worth a watch, even if some part of the

1128
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: movie is like a little bit goofy. It's a little

1129
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: bit of a goofy story, Like goofy is good. Like

1130
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: her getting attacked by jellyfish on her attempts to cross

1131
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: the sea. That was a real thing that happened. It did,

1132
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: it did, and she had to be like resuscitated and

1133
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: like all these things. Not goofy, No, but it's goofy

1134
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: because it's a ned betting versus a jellyfish in the water,

1135
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's power line, that's power line.

1136
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: He plays this mean, mean lesbian who's like I'm getting

1137
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: back on the water, and then the jelly fish takes around.

1138
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: She's like oh, and then they're like get back and

1139
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 1: Jody's like so gay in it, so she's like get

1140
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: up here, come on, and then they're they're like resustinating her.

1141
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: She's like Jesus Christ, let my friend live already. And

1142
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: then and that's like, I'm going back into the water, babe,

1143
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh Jesus. And it's just these two

1144
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: lesbians going back and forth like you and me. Honestly,

1145
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: in many ways, I don't know who's Naiad and who's Jody.

1146
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: Although you're a ni Ad and I'm Jody, Let's I'm

1147
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: the coach.

1148
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: No, you're Niad. I mean, can you believe this bitch's

1149
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: name was Diana Niad a nymph of the sea. That's

1150
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: a palindrome of a name. The A is the center letter,

1151
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: Diane Niad, Diana Naiad. It's the same spelled backwards. Do

1152
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

1153
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent something that I know what you mean.

1154
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: Oh my God, I thank you. I do So.

1155
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: Should we move on? I don't think so, honey.

1156
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you explain I don't things, honey while I

1157
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: blow my nose.

1158
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think so, honey. Is our segment where

1159
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: we each take one minute to rail against something in

1160
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: the culture. I mean, I think I have an idea

1161
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: of what Matt's might be. He is really having a

1162
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: rough time with this congestion, and it's almost March. You know,

1163
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: it's like, I thought we were done with this.

1164
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: So did I, sister. I haven't feeling this is going

1165
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: to be like a twenty four to forty eight hour thing.

1166
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: I think this is not gonna be a big deal.

1167
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: Great, I'm happy for you, but I do have something

1168
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: okay makes one of us. Oh god, this is Matt Rogers.

1169
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

1170
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The Wendy Williams documentary. I

1171
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: really feel like this is not the move and the

1172
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: family being like, she's an executive producer on this, so

1173
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: you know that's about board. It's like, guys, she is

1174
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: by definition not in her right mind. And these you know,

1175
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: stories coming out now about her having like dementia, and like,

1176
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: you know these this has obviously been something wrong with

1177
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: her for a while, way before you decided to do

1178
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: this documentary. And now what you have is you have

1179
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: her devolving on television and you're out here promoting it.

1180
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: You didn't even see the result of what you would

1181
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: put together here and say, guys, you know what, we

1182
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: have to really work to make sure we're protecting her. No,

1183
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: you saw the product that you had and then continue

1184
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: to promote it for your own gain. And I'm sorry,

1185
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: but anytime you have something that's in the entertainment industry

1186
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: and promoted this way, you are doing it till people

1187
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: watch it and so you gain from it. I don't

1188
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: think you protected her here. There's a reason we haven't

1189
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: seen Bruce Willis. There's a reason we didn't see Barbara Walters.

1190
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: It's because when you put someone out there like this

1191
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: at the end of their life, this becomes their legacy.

1192
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: And shame on you for doing that to your family member.

1193
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so funny, that's one a minute, one

1194
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: hundred percent. I think that the family member that who's

1195
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of screen time is I think the niece,

1196
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: the niece, and there's something so dark there because I

1197
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: think she's also a journalist or something. There's something off

1198
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: about the whole thing. And I don't think there's any

1199
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: position that these people could have that justified what exactly

1200
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: is going on here, because unfortunately, now what you have

1201
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: is you have someone who's very sick with dementia and

1202
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: potentially other things on television not acting like themselves. You know,

1203
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: she's saying things that are very offensive, very dark very

1204
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: nasty and she looks unwell and you got a camera

1205
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: in her face. It's a phase.

1206
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: It's like she can't even register communication or even express

1207
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: it in the way she wants to. It's brain damage.

1208
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: It's literally brain damage. Like she's not okay, it's exploitation.

1209
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: And I remember when we did our first Culture Awards, right, like,

1210
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 2: Wendy Williams was like a leader in the nominations because

1211
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: there were moments. There were just so many moments.

1212
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: You know, she's iconic and she's she's done so much

1213
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: in the culture, and she always provided like some thing

1214
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: to talk about. But then when it became clear that

1215
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: something was really wrong, yes, and when it was clear

1216
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: it was clear, you take a step back and you

1217
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: have some respect and the fact that this is coming

1218
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: from her family and these photographs of her. I don't

1219
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: care what awareness you think you are bringing. You know,

1220
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: the way you bring awareness to an issue like this,

1221
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: you say, our beloved family member and pop culture icon,

1222
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: Wendy Williams is dealing with these issues. If you are

1223
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 1: someone you know are dealing with these issues, you're not alone.

1224
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: We are dealing with it. Here are resources, Here are

1225
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, places you can donate. Here are positive memories

1226
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: of our family member. Not we documented what the reality

1227
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: is and are putting it out there, don't lady, she's

1228
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: okay with it. She doesn't have the wherewithal to be

1229
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: okay with it. And at this point it's like it's

1230
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: like a catch twenty two too, because then it's like,

1231
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: if you weigh in on something like this, it's like, oh,

1232
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: trust the family, they know what's best. We don't fucking

1233
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: know that way. If this is what's best for Wendy Williams,

1234
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: then I really am adrift out here because it seems

1235
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: like the best thing for her would be to focus

1236
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: on her treatment and to give her privacy because we

1237
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: did not need this to understand the reality that she

1238
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: was in trouble or a picture of what this type

1239
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: of mental illness looks like. We did not need it.

1240
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: Bowen Yang Yevin, I don't think somebody needs to share

1241
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: with us. I think so, well, that's good? Are you ready? Yes? Yes?

1242
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey. As

1243
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 2: time starts now, I don't think so, honey, Normani with

1244
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: this Dopamine release, like I love this album, I love

1245
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: this title.

1246
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: Already you can't make us wait longer? What do you mean?

1247
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: What's another like two three months? I want this and

1248
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: now you should have dropped this on us and we

1249
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: would have there would have been no notes.

1250
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: That would have been a perfect release strategy. Because we

1251
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: love you. You're able to.

1252
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: Coast on this thirty seconds good will that we've built

1253
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: up over the years. But I think this is kind

1254
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: of a middle finger to us, and maybe we deserve

1255
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: it because we have been hard on you, but also

1256
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: you haven't delivered on what you've promised would be coming

1257
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: for such a long time. Again, I actually love Normania

1258
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: second MONI here, but I'm.

1259
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: Like, just put out the whole thing.

1260
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 2: I do love this cover that where she's writing this

1261
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: fucking rocket, tough imagery, tough today, but she looks good.

1262
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: And if I stop thinking about current events, then I

1263
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: guess it's a sligh But just just drop the album.

1264
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: Why make us wait longer? That's one minute? Well. I

1265
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: think if one thing is clear about Normani, it's that

1266
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: it's not up to her. I think if one thing

1267
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: is very clear about Normani over the past five, five,

1268
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: six years, it's that ain't up to her. This to

1269
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: me feels like another story of talented artist and of course,

1270
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: of course label or a situation where they can't figure

1271
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: out exactly what the rollout is or can't seem to

1272
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: get the material together or get their ducks in a

1273
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: row to actually put out music and have her fans

1274
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: like this artist. Yeah, And I've never understood why that

1275
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: seems to happen. It must be some sort of bureaucratic,

1276
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: like political thing, because I've never understood why if you

1277
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: have a huge single like Motivation, or a huge artist,

1278
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: or like someone with a platform already or who already

1279
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: has like a huge like way in for an audience, like,

1280
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: why you wouldn't just like put an album together even

1281
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: if it wasn't like you know, I get that people

1282
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: are really want to create the best body of work possible,

1283
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: but like, I find it really hard to believe that

1284
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: you couldn't find eleven or twelve songs like Motivation that

1285
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: could fill that sonic landscape and create an introductory album

1286
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: for Normani, which makes me feel like it has to

1287
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: be more now, There's got to be something else going

1288
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: on ultimately with what we've landed on here. I do

1289
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: like the album title a lot. I like the images

1290
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: a lot, I think now. Unfortunately, what she's up against

1291
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: is the fact that, like the expectation is so high,

1292
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: we have been waiting so long, the expectation is so high.

1293
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: Whatever song comes out now has to hit hard.

1294
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, otherwise it a lot of all been for not.

1295
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: That's like the corner they've painted her into, you know

1296
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like it's like, we got this

1297
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: one song, we have this one group that she was

1298
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: a part of. We know she's capable of a lot,

1299
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: but that almost feels like, you know what I'm saying,

1300
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: It's like if Beyonce dropped the Renaissance visuals now, I'd

1301
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: be like, okay, Han, well we're onto your new thing now.

1302
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hm. We still might get it though, maybe maybe.

1303
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: But I'm looking for and I mean, Normandy's fucking good.

1304
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: No, she's amazing, She's amazing. That was just the I

1305
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 2: don't think, Sonny, that I pulled out of my big

1306
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: app No.

1307
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: But I'm happy you brought it up because I didn't

1308
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about it because when I saw that

1309
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: she actually was released in the album, and then it

1310
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: was like the date and it's like it's like she's

1311
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: playing games with us with the date. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1312
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: I'll give her two weeks of these games.

1313
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, I see the games like the labels

1314
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: like she I know it's not up to her, but

1315
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: she does have some power here to push back and

1316
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: be like, let's do this this way.

1317
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: I feel strongly I don't think she has any power.

1318
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: I really don't think she has any power. I think

1319
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: unless they were like actually to leak something or like

1320
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: really forcibly taken away, this cannot be the way she

1321
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: wanted it to go. And I also don't think she

1322
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: is necessarily like jazzed about like announcing amidst every other

1323
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: pop girl right right, like packed here. What is going

1324
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: on with Gaga right now? Is she also coming out

1325
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: with something? I no, I think she's just in this

1326
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: studio because the behavior on Instagram has been a little sus.

1327
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 2: I think she's just having fun. And I think she's

1328
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: just having fun in the studioing back for herself.

1329
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: I really do.

1330
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: I think she was like, let me do this fortnite thing,

1331
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: get the girls wild.

1332
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: Up, going back to herself. But this is what.

1333
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 2: Gaga always has been, which is like let me, let

1334
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: me sow the seeds of confusion in the funnest way

1335
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 2: and when it's actually ultimately harmless, like she can do her,

1336
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 2: she can do all of her like pharmaceutical commercials and

1337
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: her like oreos, Like this is Gaga. You're right, it's

1338
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 2: supposed to be chaotic but fine in the end. Yeah,

1339
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 2: this is why we love her.

1340
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:37,520
Speaker 3: I love.

1341
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: The Perfect Delusion justice for that one, And since you

1342
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: brought up John Wayne a couple weeks ago, I have

1343
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: been listening to it NonStop. It's so good. In that video,

1344
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: Jared said that should have been the single, and I

1345
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: was like, maybe I kind of think Perfect Delusion was

1346
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: the right single. I like, Perfect Delusion.

1347
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me just look at the Joe annetrack

1348
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: one more time. It's so Gaga.

1349
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: It's so Gaga.

1350
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean, just out of nowhere.

1351
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: She's always done. She'll just stand there with her mouth

1352
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: open and her eyes wide.

1353
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: It should have been an angel down that single.

1354
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: No grecio, girls, I need Joanne.

1355
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 2: Well, do you always have to appreciate Joanne for giving

1356
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: us greaseiow, girl.

1357
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: I never have said a negative word about Joanne ever

1358
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: in my life. I think Joanne is one of the

1359
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: great Lady Gaga albums period.

1360
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: Go back and look at the tapes. I've never said

1361
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 2: a bad word about Joeyne either.

1362
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: Look at the tapes. You will find nothing negative for me.

1363
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: You'll only hear my rendition of you'll give the meal

1364
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: meal that you now.

1365
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we're going to table this twenty thirteen

1366
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: conversation because there's a lot there. We got to talk

1367
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 2: about Beyonce self titled we got to talk about art pop,

1368
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 2: We gotta talk about Miley at the VVAS. I mean,

1369
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: that was a big year and this one got away

1370
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 2: from us, guys, but you have to understand it's because

1371
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 2: there's a lot there. There's so much there, and we

1372
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 2: can't wait to talk about it.

1373
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: But for now, Well, so Ra and Rico have really

1374
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:17,520
Speaker 1: killed this episode.

1375
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: Matt, you please consider Kingdom Hearts.

1376
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: And playing it. I will consider. I think you would

1377
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: really enjoy if I can only figure out this dim contraption.

1378
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: Sure the switch. It's for little children, so you should

1379
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: be able to We end every episode with a song

1380
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: on that note.

1381
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 3: Oh my god, my funny crap.

1382
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: The cartoons. Bye,