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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Tailgate. We have an

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Speaker 1: amazing one this week. Roy Wood Junior. You know him

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Speaker 1: from The Daily Show. He's got a bunch of specials

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Speaker 1: is fantastic. He's a Dolphins fan originally, so we talked

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Speaker 1: to him a little bit more generally about the NFL

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of stuff. And then we had another

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Speaker 1: buddy of mine, a great comic from Cincinnati, Alex Schubert,

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Speaker 1: on at the end of the show to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Bengals specifically, So you get a little bit of

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Speaker 1: everything in this episode, Roywood Junior, and then a game preview.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you are a fan of

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Speaker 1: Roy like i am, he's gonna be in Minneapolis Friday,

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Speaker 1: February ninth at the Fillmore. They just added a show

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Speaker 1: the show. Everybody, y'all know what.

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Speaker 2: Tom did.

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Speaker 3: Here. We gotta go and then we gotta go.

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Speaker 4: Let's go till Tom.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, We are joined by the great Roy Wood Junior,

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Speaker 1: lifelong Dolphins fan. Hello, Roy, Hello. I hate to start

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Speaker 1: with this. Uh, Monday was insane. The Dolphins are the

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Speaker 2: Don't say it like that. You're trying to be kind

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Speaker 2: because I'm wearing a Dolphins jersey. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: this whole That whole weekend was a lot of you're

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Speaker 2: seven and six if you start looking at it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but like what they did with the Eagles, they started

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Speaker 2: came out the point differentials with the Eagles, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they won a bunch of games, but they've all been

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Speaker 2: It was the argument had been up until this point

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Speaker 2: pimp slapped you like you've been you've been, you've been

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Speaker 2: now who's the real tending for? You know, like, are

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Speaker 2: So I think there's definitely some questions, but I think

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Speaker 1: There that That's that thing that shouting people on sports

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Speaker 1: And I think the Dolphins have been made like the

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Speaker 2: Is the icy or spicy? The icy spice? Which one

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you are you getting? Is this team a fraud?

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Speaker 1: Or are you giving them the nod? It's insanity. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'd say, I mean, even the Niners took a took

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Speaker 1: Yes, literally, that was the it almost that looked. Remember

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Speaker 2: And that same shout and show Johnny Jammy at this

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Speaker 2: So which also Jerome Bettis, Nobody talks about how Ben

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Speaker 2: Roethlisberger saved Jerome Bettis's legacy. Yeah, like that was his

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Speaker 1: Yes, the amount of guys who've won titles on either

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Speaker 1: That's the Daniel Jones thing. You have no choice.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty second pick overall Rock Party and

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Speaker 2: he's gonna get paid and he should get paid. Who

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Speaker 1: And I'll double down on it because I because Brady

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at dude. You live in New York.

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Speaker 1: Italian insanity here like Tommy DeVito. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 2: That's such a New York name.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's good. I think it's good when

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Speaker 2: And you know, everybody took it as disrespect to Jalen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be. That would be a fun league

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Speaker 2: damn it, man just stressed out. Tua looks like one

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Speaker 2: of those people in Miami where you I don't know

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Speaker 2: how you make your money? Yes, Like you ever see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what theck is this?

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence doesn't feel like a Jacksonville guy. He's loved

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Speaker 2: Like Detroit's another one of those Yes, you're from Detroit first,

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Speaker 2: and then you can be white or whatever you want

432
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: to be black after that. Yeah, but Detroit first and always.

433
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: I met Marino once.

434
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: I need to hear it, because here Marina was almost

435
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 1: a Viking.

436
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: Didn't go well, Marino let me.

437
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: I want to hear about it. But I have to

438
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: tell you Marino, I think he's the I think Patrick

439
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: Mahomes probably the most talented guy to ever throw football,

440
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: but Marino's right there, and it might be Marino. I think,

441
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: had he won a title, I think he's the greatest

442
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: quarterback to ever throw a football. I I'll have this

443
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 1: argument until people don't want to hang out with me anymore.

444
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: He almost signed with the Vikings in two thousand for

445
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: a year, which would have been really fun. That was

446
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: the big thing when when they drafted Dante Culpepper, Marino

447
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: leaked out. He leaked it out recently, like in the

448
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: last few years. That after Wansted came in in that

449
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: last year and he was out, he had two options

450
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: to keep playing. One of them was Pittsburgh and one

451
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: of them was my One of them was Minnesota, and

452
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: I as a lifelong fan of him, that would have

453
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 1: been really, really fun. I also, do you remember when

454
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: he was on the CBS show Know, Yeah, did the

455
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: Morning's Have you ever seen any of the clips? He

456
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: has to be the most insanely competitive man on the earth.

457
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: They would show him because those guys sit in the

458
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: studio and watch the game. They would show him. There's

459
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: videos on YouTube if they're still up, of him watching

460
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: his records get broken, and it's a level of rage.

461
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Speaker 2: Roy.

462
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: What it's like is like a thirty year one night

463
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: or road Dog watching some kid open for him that

464
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: he just found out got a set on Colbert Like

465
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: that was the vibe, Oh god, the rage. I love Marina.

466
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got an invitation to the Dolphins facility. I

467
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: was good friends with the guy who at the time

468
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: was a beat writer for the Dolphins, and he and

469
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: I went to college together. Because any man, you're doing

470
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: a show down here, come on out and come to

471
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: the practice. So I figure, all right, I'll just wear

472
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Speaker 2: a jersey. The only jersey I had at the time

473
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 2: was a Miami Dolphins custom Jake Cutler jersey that I

474
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: had made as a joke. And it was the year

475
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: after they released Cutler. Cutler was off in the summer

476
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: or whatever on a yacht naked. I don't know if

477
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: you remember that photo where he was on a yacht

478
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: with some woman with his ass out or whatever, and

479
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: so everybody used to call Jay. There used to be

480
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: a meme on Twitter called smoking j where when Jake

481
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: Cutler was on the sideline, somebody added a cigarette to

482
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: his mouth to make it look like he really didn't

483
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: give up. And I think the play that defined Cutler's

484
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 2: time in Miami was he was lined up in the Wildcat,

485
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 2: he was lined out wide and he just straight up

486
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: didn't even try to run the play and the action

487
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: is happening away from him, but he doesn't even bother

488
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: trying to sell to the corner that's covering him. It

489
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: was like the most laziest shit. So his name is

490
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: dirt for the most part within the Dolphins organization. And

491
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: then who comes onto the practice field today and moron

492
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: in a J. Cutler jersey, going, man, I'm so happy

493
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: to meet you, mister Marino, and and like a guy

494
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: pulls me to the side with another jersey, Hey man,

495
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: why don't you just go put this one on real quick?

496
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: Just go. They wouldn't even let me go outside to

497
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: watch practice until I change shirts. The only thing I

498
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: can compare it to is like when you go, I

499
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever visited someone else's religious temple.

500
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: You know you're breaking a custom because everyone's looking at you,

501
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: but you don't know what you're doing wrong, Like is

502
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: my hat on? Should I take my shoes off? I'm

503
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: wearing a J. Cutler jersey at the Dolphins facil me

504
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: and that imagine waiting your entire career to meet the

505
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: man that was like an icon to you, but he

506
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: represents the organization and you're wearing the jersey of a

507
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: dude they just had to let go because he ran

508
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: shit into the ground. And it was just awkward for

509
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: the rest of the day for me at the facility.

510
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: The first couple of minutes, the people I met after.

511
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: They were very kind. This is pre Mike timeline. This

512
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: is the year after Cutler left, so this is like

513
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: five years ago, maybe six it And then here's the

514
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: other thing. Football is not that interesting to watch being practiced.

515
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: I was happy for the invite, I was happy for

516
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: the access. It was cool to see. But in the

517
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: bigger scheme of things, I wish I could have met

518
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: Dan Marino at an autograph show. Yeah, and it probably

519
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: would have gone a lot more smoother and simpler. But

520
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: you know, football is battle. It's two a days in

521
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: the Florida Sun.

522
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: I just got done being by another grown man just

523
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: two days ago. All the grown men hit me. I

524
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: don't wanna, I don't wanna mess around right now, get

525
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: me out of here.

526
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and I really think of all the

527
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: professional athletes, football players are the toughest. They are straight

528
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: up gladiators. Man. So yeah, there ain't a lot of

529
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: chit chat. You just kind of wave if you look

530
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: up and make eye contact with one of the players

531
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: or something. But it was hope for a nod. Yeah.

532
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: And then the only thing weirder than watching than having

533
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: an all access pass to watch football like I could

534
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: smell the players like I was close. The only thing

535
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 2: weirder than that is that people show up to watch

536
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: this in the preseason, Like I went to a Titan's practice,

537
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: just goofing off half drunk, and there people They're like, yeah, man,

538
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm here to I'm here to see the team and

539
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: see all the half these is getting cut. No, I

540
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: get it. You get to see Derek Henry up closing

541
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: for free or eight dollars or whatever they charge. But

542
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: it was just such an to see people excited about practice,

543
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: Like you, you know, you you think you're a fan,

544
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: and then you go, oh, no, I'm not a fan.

545
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: He's a fan. I just like him. Like fans go

546
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: watch practice. So when people are a football fanily, you

547
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: know met Dan Marino bad under unfavorable condition. So it's fine,

548
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: it's fine to go watch them practice. But I just

549
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: read the watch. I'm just good just watching the game.

550
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: I like the games. I'm a big game guy. Yeah, yeah,

551
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: I think that's okay. I think that's okay to have

552
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: your your limit. I talk about that a lot on

553
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: the show. Like I love the Vikings. I love watching them,

554
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: my family watching them. It's been amazing to be a

555
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: part of the organization doing this show. But I have

556
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: a I think I have a good set of limits,

557
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: and I think that's an important thing in sports. And

558
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: I also think that there are certain people who can

559
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: handle like I think it's an individual thing, like how

560
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: what are you as a person able to handle in

561
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: terms of emotional like commitment and influence and stuff where

562
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you have Like I think, one

563
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: guy can watch his favorite team all the time, watch

564
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: the practice, listen to games, and then be very normal.

565
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: If I did that right, I would be an absolute lunatic.

566
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: I would be the most unenjoyable person on the planet.

567
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: I have to set my boundaries and enjoy my team

568
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: as a fan correctly, or people will be like, so

569
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: I can't come to dinner. I hate him, he can't come.

570
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I've tried to temper fandom.

571
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: You know, I grew up selling selling so I was

572
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: a stadium vendor at Alabama games in high school. Oh wow,

573
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: So I've seen fandom. I've seen like people fighting. But

574
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: the early days at the SEC Championship when it was

575
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: still played in Birmingham, when it was still building the

576
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: Georgia dun Oh wow, ninety one, the Jeens Starlins national

577
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: championship team. I saw Peyton Manning and College Jamal Lewis,

578
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: the Steve Spurrier old ball coach days with Danny Whirfol

579
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: and all of them mother they all came through Birmingham

580
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: and the fights you would see in the bathroom between

581
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: Florida fans and Alabama fans every year doing those national

582
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: championship there were those a SEC championship days. That was like, oh,

583
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan. I just like, I'm not fighting

584
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: strangers on a piss covered floor because Eric Ritt is

585
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: a better running back than David Palmer. I'm not. I

586
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: did that just for the Viking fans by the way

587
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 2: out to deduce So like that, like or like when

588
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: I when I saw the Cubs win the World Series,

589
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: I'm a Cubs fan. And then I heard stories of

590
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: like guys who during Game seven took a radio and

591
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: listened to the game next to their father's grave because

592
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: their father never saw the Cubs. I'm not that big

593
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: of a fan. I'm happy for you.

594
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: You don't love the Cubs enough to be a part

595
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: of the start of a horror film.

596
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: No, No, like what if a hand comes up the

597
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: ground and goes, thank your son. You did it.

598
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Roy, You're the best man.

599
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Man. I appreciate it.

600
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, dude, thank you.

601
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

602
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: That was the great Roy Wood. Now we need to

603
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: talk about what's right in front of us. Let's talk

604
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of Bengals. Let's talk a little bit

605
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: of Saturday. Joining me to help with that, not just one,

606
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: I have two human beings from Cincinnati. Fantastic comedian, longtime

607
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: friend of mine, and a Bengals season ticket holder, the

608
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: great Alex Schubert. Hey, Buddy, Hey Cyrus.

609
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here.

610
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 4: Thank you for me on Man, I'm appreciated.

611
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: And also joining me is producer Jay Nelson, who I

612
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: have forced to be on this show because he and

613
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: I have been discussing this.

614
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: Game all year long.

615
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: I've spent a long time in Cincinnati. I've been looking

616
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: forward to this game. I've been riding the roller coaster.

617
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm a fan that worries. We've established that on the show,

618
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: and earlier in the year I was like, oh shit,

619
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: we have to go play Joe Burrow. And then I

620
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: was like, oh boy, we get to play Jake Browning Jay,

621
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: And now, as you know, over the last two weeks

622
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: via my text, my attitude has shifted to, oh shit,

623
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: we have to go play Jake Browning.

624
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's the enemy that we actually know,

625
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: you know, with Jake Browning here at the Vikings for

626
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: a handful of years. And the thing about Jake Browning

627
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 5: is that he's been playing out of his mind the

628
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks. So for me, it's been fun

629
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 5: to watch him do that and to see that, you know,

630
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: whenever you see somebody that you know succeeding, especially another spot.

631
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: The problem now is that we actually have to face him.

632
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Speaker 1: It's terrible. I congratulations, Alex. I'm so happy that in

633
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: a year in which we are seeing our fourth quarterback,

634
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: somehow one of our former backups is having a insanity

635
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: style moment. Also, let's talk about how bizarre the quarterback

636
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: carousel league wide has been. And for you guys especially

637
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: I know down there, when Burrow went down half the city,

638
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: if not more, we're like, it has to be aj McCarran.

639
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: And it has shifted quickly. There are a lot of

640
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: people walking the streets of Cincinnati admitting they had the

641
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: worst take a couple of weeks.

642
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: Ago, because it was after the Pittsburgh game. The Bengals

643
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: only put up ten points against a meager Pittsburgh defense.

644
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 4: And then we're like, we gotta get aj mccaeron and

645
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: because he almost wanted a playoff game for US seven

646
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: years ago. But then immediately, like when Browning blew up

647
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 4: on Monday night, it's oh, we might be fine, and

648
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: we're as just as surprise as you are.

649
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: And it's crazy how fine you've been. I mean, that

650
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: performance he put up against the Jags was bonkers, dropped

651
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: two thirty four point performances, and I would dislike you

652
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: and your team for it. But here's the thing. There

653
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: are very few organizations, not just in football but in

654
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: professional sports that go through the tortured fan base experience. Yes,

655
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: now there are teams like the Jaguars who haven't done

656
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: much of anything, they haven't been around that long. But

657
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm talking the Cincinnati Bengals, you know, the Cubs before

658
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: they won the World Series. There are a small handful

659
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: of these teams. Alex and you and your fan base.

660
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: It's it's hard to have any animosity for a team

661
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: who's had it so horribly for so long.

662
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Speaker 4: I remember, so I have a story about this. I

663
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: was at a game in twenty fifteen. The Bengals started

664
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Speaker 4: eight and oh that year, and the ninth game was

665
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: a Monday night game against the Texans, which we lost

666
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: and was the close game. We lost it, and there

667
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 4: was one fan that shouted same old Bengals. I was like,

668
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 4: your eight and one? How but shoobs? What happened at

669
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: the end of that season. AJ mccaron came in and

670
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 4: we thought we had a playoff victory.

671
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Speaker 1: Same old Bengals. That man, you think that's a funny story.

672
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: The man was right, and that's what I'm saying. That's

673
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: why it's I can't attack the Bengals fan base. I

674
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: think there's a kindred nature to our two teams. Now

675
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: that being said, I want you to lose and lose

676
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: miserably on this. We have to play on Saturday, which

677
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: is warping my brain as we approach the weekend. I

678
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: don't I don't. I know we're getting closer and closer

679
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: to football every day of the week, but the Saturday

680
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: thing just never sinks correctly in my brain. Uh, Jay,

681
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: you have been egging me on with here's what the

682
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: people need to know about me. What I do every

683
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: year is I emotionally circle on on the schedule games

684
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: that I think we are going to succeed in and

685
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: games that I think we're going to struggle in, and

686
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: then there's this extra set of games that are games

687
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: that we should succeed in and we won't. And you,

688
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: as a friend slash terrible person, have taken a lot

689
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,959
Speaker 1: of the moment Burrow went down, I was like, that's

690
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, that's the one I didn't I didn't

691
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: see the Bears coming. Yes, I did not see that

692
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: one coming. But I've had this one circled and you

693
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: have been egging it on by showing basically this Chase

694
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: Brown thing. Chase Brown has been nuts for the Bengals.

695
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: They had, they have been terrible all season in the run,

696
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they their version of Devin ah Chan,

697
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: their version of Tony Pollard, their version of who pick

698
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: your fast speedy, you know, lightning back, and their team

699
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 1: is just entirely different.

700
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Speaker 5: Well, what's crazy to me is that Joe Mixon has

701
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 5: been just such a workhorse for those guys that he's

702
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 5: been mister reliable, and then for them to all of

703
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 5: a sudden have their backup also blowing up here for

704
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 5: the last couple weeks. Like the thing that drives me

705
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 5: nuts about that is you go, oh, we got one

706
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: guy stopped, and the next guy comes in gives a

707
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 5: completely different look, and it kind of reminds me a

708
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 5: little bit of when we had Delvin Cook and Alexander Madison.

709
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 5: Get a little bit of your thunder and lightning there

710
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: with those guys. And so that's something that's really concerning

711
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: me this weekend about what the heck are we going

712
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: to see coming out of the backfield there in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing. The AFC is wild. This isn't

714
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Speaker 1: the Tom Brady AFC, and it's not the even the

715
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes of last year or the year before. AFC.

716
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: Every single team seems beatable on any given week. If

717
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Speaker 1: you told me that Joe Flacco and the Browns we're

718
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Speaker 1: gonna be in the AFC Championship, no shit, I would

719
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Speaker 1: believe it. If you told there's not a team that

720
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: you can tell me in the AFC that's in the

721
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Speaker 1: picture that I wouldn't buy into on some level, and

722
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: so on the scale of man, we thought our season

723
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 1: was dead and all of a sudden two thirty four

724
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Speaker 1: point performances later, we got a shot to win the

725
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: playoffs like that versus oh my god, if we had

726
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: finally got healthy, t Higgins comes back, Chase Brown is back,

727
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: and everybody's playing with if we had Joe Burrow, we

728
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: might be a super Bowl contender. Like, where are you

729
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: existing on the emotional fans scale? Is it more just

730
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: happy to be in the playoff race or more like,

731
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Speaker 1: holy shit, if Joe Burrow wouldn't have got hurt, this

732
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: could have maybe been our year. With how wide open

733
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Speaker 1: the AFC is.

734
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Speaker 4: Well for me, I know now that we have Burrow,

735
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Speaker 4: I know that this is not out like we didn't

736
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Speaker 4: lose our last chance because Burrow is out for the year,

737
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 4: but he's also gonna come back next year. He's gonna

738
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Speaker 4: have Chase, maybe he has Higgins, wh knows he'll have Boyd.

739
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: He'll still have his full weapons around him and an

740
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: improving offensive line. So with this year, I'm like, if

741
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: we get a wild card win or even a divisional win,

742
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 4: I'll be thrilled, especially with the backup.

743
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: But now I'm gonna push I am gonna push back

744
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: on you. It's about to get weird for you, and

745
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: I don't I don't mean to bully you on the show,

746
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: but it's all I talk about this show. For people

747
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: who listen, they have to listen for the great guests,

748
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: because I say the same four or five things week

749
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: in and week out. I already said this on the

750
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: section with Roy, but your boys getting paid.

751
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: As he is.

752
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: Next week it starts. It's gonna be really interesting that

753
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by which guys can continue to elevate a

754
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: roster when they don't have as good a roster as

755
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: they had when they were on their rookie deal. So

756
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Speaker 1: I I will say because I was down in Cincinnati

757
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: spending time in Cincinnati when they went on their Super

758
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: Bowl run that first year, Yep, it was fascinating to me.

759
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: And I remember doing this as a kid. When the

760
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: ninety eight Vikings lost in the NFC Championship, I was crushed,

761
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: but I also remember thinking, well, this is just the start.

762
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this a whole bunch of more times.

763
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Speaker 1: And that was the vibe in Cincinnati. It was people

764
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: were bummed, but everybody's like, well see you next year.

765
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that.

766
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Speaker 4: I think that's kind of the hope. Right now, like

767
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: this year, the AFC is so wide open. There are

768
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 4: six teams right now that are seven and six, and

769
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: the Bengals are one of them. And it seems like

770
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: of those six teams, the Bengals have the most momentum,

771
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: maybe out of all six.

772
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 1: Of them, absolutely and maybe weirdly, one of the least

773
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: flawed teams. If Jake Browning can be a legitimate game

774
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: manager and Jay that's why I've been scared of it

775
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: the whole time. I think they just have a lot

776
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: of pieces and there aren't. Interestingly, these two teams look

777
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot alike to me. Yeah, you know they have

778
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: they're running with a backup quarterback and all the weapons

779
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: are getting healthy Because we just found out Jefferson's gonna

780
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: play right.

781
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 5: Thanks to the child reporter at the Christmas gifting event

782
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: that he had. The kid was pressing him as he's

783
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 5: walking down the aisle, and then Justin actually admits, Yeah,

784
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 5: I'm going to be playing Saturday.

785
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

786
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: So no, for people who haven't seen that on social

787
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: JJ and I believe kJ Osborne, Yep, we're doing a

788
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: gift thing with They brought a bunch of kids into

789
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: Target bought a bunch of gifts. It's a really great video,

790
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: but one of the kids just wouldn't let it go shoots.

791
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: He was like, are you playing? Tell me? Are you Like?

792
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: He just kept going at him. And that's literally there

793
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: are reports all over the internet now that and they

794
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: don't even mention the kid. That's the crazy thing. Yeah,

795
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: I'll be on Instagram and it'll be like breaking news.

796
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: JJ says he'll play this weekend. Nobody cited the kid.

797
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: The kid is getting absolutely no credit. But Jay, that's it.

798
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: They are. It is very, very similar teams. It's kind

799
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: of that Spider Man meme. Yeah, a bunch of weapons,

800
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, a defense that can be really good

801
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: and let's see what happens.

802
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

803
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Speaker 5: And I think the thing for us right now is

804
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 5: there's been this kind of backs against the wall mentality

805
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 5: for the last five games at this point. When Kirk

806
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: went out after that that Green Bay game, I think

807
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 5: there was really a rallying within the locker room saying

808
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: like cas is not dead. We're still fighting at this point.

809
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 5: And so for us, it's been something where we've been

810
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 5: in this kind of go mode for the last five games.

811
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Speaker 5: And I think when you look at a team like Cincinnati,

812
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 5: as dangerous as they are and multiple weapons, especially an offense,

813
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 5: and then you're getting the backup quarterback. It's not like

814
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 5: you're getting him one week off of you his first start.

815
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 5: You've seen a little bit of tape on him, and

816
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 5: you've kind of known who he was inside this building.

817
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: So at least for us, we kind of know what

818
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: we're up against, and hopefully that's going to help with

819
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 5: Flores's game plan going into the game here on Saturday.

820
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Speaker 1: It'll be shoobes. It's hard to not ask a very

821
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: generic question right now. Okay, the Belichick coaching tree thrives

822
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: against backup and quarterbacks. Confusion is the name of the game,

823
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: and Flores has played it very very well all year long.

824
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, from your perspective as a Bengals fan, what

825
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: has to go right for your team this weekend? Like,

826
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: answer this question, If blank happens on Sunday, the Bengals

827
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: are probably going to win this game.

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Speaker 4: So one area that the Bengals have massively struggled in

829
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: which the Vikings are one of the probably the best

830
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: things in the NFL, is the Bengals have really struggled

831
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: to cover tight ends, and you guys happen to have

832
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 4: one of the best tight ends in the NFL in TJ.

833
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: Hockinson.

834
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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to pile on here, but you

835
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: and I have gone back and forth about this a

836
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: lot because you got IRV Smith, and I have family

837
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: members who I watched jay this offseason when the Bengals

838
00:45:54,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: got IRV Smith. I watched Shoobes be enthusiastic about IRV

839
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: Smith and hopeful, and then I watched family members of

840
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: mine ridicule him. Sure, and it was a fascinating dynamic.

841
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: And now we get to see Irv. It just hasn't

842
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: turned out for you guys on tight end. You lost

843
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst. You can't. You haven't put yards on the

844
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: board on offense. But you're right, more importantly, you can't

845
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: stop it. It's almost a two way problem.

846
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 4: There was a tweet a couple weeks ago that I

847
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: think a betting site put out that said, this man

848
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: is going to score tonight, and it was a picture

849
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 4: of Evan Ingram for the Bengals Jags game, and he

850
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 4: did on top of nine receptions in eighty two yards.

851
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I gotta tell you, I think Hokinson

852
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: and the team need that. I think they need to

853
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: get right tight end week. So I would be happy

854
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: for Zach Taylor and company to just lay that out

855
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: for us. Now here's the thing I might come to

856
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: the game this weekend.

857
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: Alex.

858
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Jay. One thing you need to know about Alex

859
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: is he made a I'm gonna call it a lunatic decision.

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Speaker 1: He loves the Bengals, made an take decision to buy

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Speaker 1: a single season ticket, and that either means you're one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest fans in the stadium or one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest wild cards as a human being. Alex might

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Speaker 1: be both.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I think the ANSWER's got to

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Speaker 5: be both on that one.

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Speaker 1: He's potentially both.

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Speaker 4: It's both.

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Speaker 1: But the Bengals fan base, this isn't Philadelphia, There's not

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Speaker 1: There's not going to be an aggression down there. But shoobes,

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Speaker 1: what is the what is the emotional vibe of the

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Speaker 1: Bengals fan Because it to me, if I had to

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Speaker 1: describe it, I think that and this is how I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of Viking fans feel. But I think

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Speaker 1: they view themselves as Charlie Brown about to kick the

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Speaker 1: football that Lucy's holding.

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Speaker 4: And it's just instead of him missing it, it just

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Speaker 4: clanks off the upright.

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Speaker 5: But the thing is, shoobes. You can't take that from us. Literally,

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Speaker 5: Charlie Brown's from Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I was I, here's the thing. We

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Speaker 1: don't talk a lot of shit on this show, but

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Speaker 1: I've known Alex for twelve years and he's such a

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Speaker 1: sweet person. I just teed you up for the easiest

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Speaker 1: comeback stab, and you were too nice to let it happen.

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Speaker 1: I can't be a part of it. I don't talk

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Speaker 1: a lot of trash, but I will talk it in

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Speaker 1: this matchup. But I don't know. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a really interesting game. I think it'll be wild

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Speaker 1: to see Jake Browning. I never feel good playing a

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Speaker 1: prominent player that used to be on our squad. I

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Speaker 1: think professional athletes, no matter if they're a third stringer

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Speaker 1: getting their first start or a Hall of Famer, they

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Speaker 1: thrive on this shit. They love this. This is like

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Speaker 1: the psychology that makes someone achieve at the highest level

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Speaker 1: in athletics. You know, it drives the mentality that I

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Speaker 1: expect Jake Browning to come out with something to prove.

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Speaker 1: I expect this to be a really, really tough game.

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Speaker 1: I want to do predictions here, shoobes. We make everybody

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Speaker 1: do it each week. I know you're gonna be there

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. What do you got in this game? What

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Speaker 1: do you what do you think the final score is

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Speaker 1: gonna be?

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Speaker 4: I think if the Bengals can cover Hockinson and Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 4: which very tall task.

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Speaker 1: Not possible.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not, especially since we're down KM Taylor, but

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Speaker 4: which sucks. But I'm gonna say, for my sake, with

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Speaker 4: the uncertainty, that the Vikings of a cord because this

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Speaker 4: is Nick Mullens's first starting like two years, so I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna say Bengals twenty three, Vikings twenty. I'm sorry, Sacket.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't apologize. Be a grown up. The I refuse

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Speaker 1: to apologize for my score prediction. And I'm not even

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Speaker 1: gonna normally I tee it up. I'm not gonna tee

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Speaker 1: it up. I didn't like that apology. Thirteen for the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty eight for the Vikings. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: what I expect. It's not the jay The bit doesn't

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Speaker 1: work that well, when I deliver it like that, I

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Speaker 1: just didn't like. I didn't like being apologized to. I'm

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Speaker 1: the one that worries about my team, not you. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys for doing it. I really appreciate it. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to the great Joy Wood, Junior, Alex Schubert, Jye Nelson.

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