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Speaker 1: To be Around the NFL Podcast. Thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. I come to you. We

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Speaker 1: come to you from various points all around the world.

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Speaker 1: This is history, Okay, I do I want everyone to

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Speaker 1: understand what you're listening to right now is history. I

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Speaker 1: the old Zeuser. I'm coming to you from the northeast

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Speaker 1: coast of the United States, the New Jersey Shore, the

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Speaker 1: New Jersey Shore to be exact. Okay. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I am, okay, and I'm enjoying it. I am. I

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Speaker 1: was at the beach with the with the kids and

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Speaker 1: my sister and her children. It was a nice time.

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Speaker 1: Got spotted by a fan at the h at the

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Speaker 1: little snack bar. He went and so, yes, I like

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Speaker 1: your stuff. I was like, all right, he went with

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Speaker 1: And then a nice time at the beach and joining

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Speaker 1: the family time. And now on the opposite side of

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Speaker 1: the coast, you have the great Mark Sessler. You have

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Speaker 1: the man, the myth, the legend holding it down in

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Speaker 1: sunny California. How you doing, buddy, I'm doing great. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know we had the very rare week off and

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it too, UM to its finest potential. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you that great. Are you getting some tasty

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Speaker 1: waves and all that? I did not, Um, I did

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Speaker 1: did what I normally do, which I found UM in

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Speaker 1: a couple of days at. And UM got up to

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Speaker 1: some adventures that I would describe on a different podcast

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Speaker 1: potentially other than this one. We have so many questions, UM,

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Speaker 1: how many stars for the hotel? Fourn he's got that,

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Speaker 1: he's got that new contract money? Well he doesn't, but

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Speaker 1: that's another story. And finally, let's go over the Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, past away,

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Speaker 1: keep going from Japan, Greg Rosenthal seven am in Japan,

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Speaker 1: three pm in California, six pm in New York. Greg,

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Speaker 1: how you doing, buddy, Welcome back. I'm a whole day

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Speaker 1: ahead of your future is beautiful. It's life better in

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Speaker 1: the future because I don't know, It's like, how are

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Speaker 1: how is like our home country now? Japan is a

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Speaker 1: one nugget front that happened between now and tomorrow. Between

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Speaker 1: now and tomorrow, from the future, your life specifically mark

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Speaker 1: Um is going to be disrupted significantly in a positive

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Speaker 1: way for the most part, depending on how you look

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Speaker 1: at it. So let's how life is. But this, this

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Speaker 1: great ambience. Yeah, and uh yeah there, yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: an unfortunate assassination in Japan, and uh, I did send

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Speaker 1: you another news item the unsavory crime in that country,

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Speaker 1: I just have to say, I assume you're not. Um.

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Speaker 1: Digger's grave digger in Texas. That's four, that's no. Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: Is this history what we're doing right now? Podcasts across

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Speaker 1: the world. It is not technically history. Um, I did

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Speaker 1: have anything close to the reach that the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast has enormous. You know, no, no disrespect to

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Speaker 1: podcast hosts, and unfortunately it takes twelve weeks to apply

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Speaker 1: for a Guinness World Record. So my reject my application

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Speaker 1: a good time to go dark, and thank you everybody

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Speaker 1: be stated that Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield have taken

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Speaker 1: it's from Coward director Lances Delivery. The four nights are

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Speaker 1: kind of rebuilding it. He gets armed fatigue, it's not

428
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Speaker 1: an easy throw. He needs days off, and they're worried

429
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Speaker 1: about his accuracy. I don't know. And here's Mike Silver

430
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Speaker 1: an actual reporter. No disrespect to Coward, but he's more

431
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Speaker 1: in the personality zone. UM with you, buddy. Yes, there

432
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Speaker 1: were some concerns about trey lances accuracy and arm fatigue

433
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Speaker 1: during his rookie year. That said, here are some things

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Speaker 1: to get excited about. Elite intelligence, arm strength, athletic ability,

435
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: relative lack of experience suggests high ceilings. High ceiling. We

436
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Speaker 1: shall see. It's not just something I was floating around.

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00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: It connected to this situation as well. I think that right.

438
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Speaker 1: The Palace Era report and and mostly how they've acted

439
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: actually does indicate to me that they understand keeping Jimmy

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Speaker 1: as thorny, and I think they are fully like going

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00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: full steam ahead with Trailands. I don't think there's anything

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Speaker 1: to it. All. Right, let's pause right here and take

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Speaker 1: a break. We'll be right back. Um in other news,

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00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still not recovered from as I'm sure

445
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: many Seattle Seahawks fans would agree, century link Field the

446
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: clink becoming lumen Field. Like, I'm still not totally cool

447
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: with that. And now we head to Pittsburgh, where hinz

448
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Speaker 1: Field is no more. I know I shouldn't get attached

449
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: to the corporate names because they're still just corporate names.

450
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Speaker 1: But when they're when they work, when they're good corporate names,

451
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: you just you want the corporate name to stay where

452
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Speaker 1: it is. So the twenty one your run of Hines

453
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Speaker 1: Field in Pittsburgh is no more. They are now for

454
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Speaker 1: the next fifteen years. This building is known as get

455
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: ready to say a trillion times drum morole, please, what

456
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: the hell is it? I don't know, Acquis Shore Stadium.

457
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: Let's go, baby. You don't want to go to accrashure

458
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: in December and it's it's at the point where um,

459
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Speaker 1: I immediately went to see what Dave Damashek, longtime lifelong

460
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: Steelers fan, had to say about it. He seemed nonplussed.

461
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: Um if you check out his tweets, Acquasher is a

462
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: um I went to because I mean, you cannot tell

463
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Speaker 1: from the name what's happening there. A fine tech leader,

464
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: financial tech leader. They provide essentially intelligence driven financial services

465
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Speaker 1: solutions for insurance, reinsurance, real estate services, cyber services, and

466
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: asset and wealth management that does not scare the Baltimore

467
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: Ravens and and the name also is the opposite of

468
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: rolling off the tongue. It sounds it's it's it's weighty,

469
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: it's it's unenjoyable to is licking his chops, Yes he is.

470
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Speaker 1: It's got a free plug though, a free plug from Mark.

471
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: I do feel like at least half of these new

472
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: stadium points deals are just for companies that like need

473
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: to explain what their company actually is, so they need

474
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: more attention on it, Like just come up with a

475
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: name that would that would have helped us out in

476
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: the first place better and you could avoid having to

477
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Speaker 1: spend all that money. My favorite UM bad corporate stadium

478
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: name is the Chicago White Sox. It's guaranteed rate stadium

479
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: or field. And then the logo is a UM like

480
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: a stock arrow pointing down, so it has the name

481
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: and then it shows it's like a like a stock

482
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: market thing like shooting down. And it's like, well, that

483
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: doesn't I feel like you don't want to connect like

484
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: the arrow pointing down with your professional sports club. But

485
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: that's what's happening over there. Hey, whatever happened in Fenway

486
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Park Yankee Stadium like when we were kids, all right,

487
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: in other news, So that that sucks, UM, but who cares? Yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: that's filed up. That's one of those categories like that sucks,

489
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: but you know who cares. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

490
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: But Paul's under that chac. Let's see, Lamar Jackson is

491
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: hoping a deal gets done before training camp. A little

492
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: bit of a change there, greg from the the idea

493
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Speaker 1: that he might wait it out and go to the

494
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins route. Now maybe it's taking it on a

495
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: more traditional feel negotiating. He said this at a charity event,

496
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: I think his own um to Sophie Dean of the

497
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: US of USA today and he said there in the

498
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Speaker 1: middle of negotiations. So I think that's noteworthy. This whole

499
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: idea that Lamar was gonna like wait it out, and

500
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: I had this whole idea He's gonna like break the system,

501
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I believe. I even said on this podcast. I had

502
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: heard some whispers that that wasn't true at all. This

503
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: was just like how he was negotiating. And in the end,

504
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna end up being more typical than uh

505
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: like every quarterback. And it now sounds to me like

506
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: this thing is probably are you disappointed at him? Because

507
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: you were getting a little hot in the pants. I

508
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: was getting kind of fired on interested as like an

509
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: into actual yeah, exercise, but the man, the man deserves

510
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: what whatever he wants to do, and it sounds like

511
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: he wants his money. He uh. He also, in terms

512
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: of a physical body update, has gone from two hundred

513
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: and five pounds to two d and twenty, the thickest

514
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: he's ever been in the league, has been working in

515
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: on tightening his motion. Um. But I would ask this

516
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: from a contract arms were big. Did you see that

517
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: he really did look like I mean you think he

518
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: had a muscle. It wasn't like, you know, some flab

519
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: around the stomach area's looking fantastic. What happens to him

520
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: money wise? Though? You can like, does does the Deshaun

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00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: Watson contract honestly operate as like a barometer or or

522
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: a bar for these other for these other superstar throwers,

523
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Speaker 1: Because I don't think you can pay him that. I

524
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: think he's it's somewhere maybe closer to to Dak Prescott.

525
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: I just it's just seems like the Deshaun Watson scenario

526
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: through a real wrench in the works for the rest

527
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: of these guys and their agents. Well, I think he'll

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00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: get I think you'll get top top shelf money. The

529
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: only thing about Watson. That I'm curious with these other

530
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks is like, are they going to get fully guaranteed contracts? Right?

531
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Speaker 1: The guarantee sent but otherwise I don't I don't have

532
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: much doubt that Lamar is coming in right at or

533
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: near the top of the shelf. And I think the

534
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: Ravens are just gonna do that. On another show, that

535
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: would be, uh, the whole next twenty minutes would be

536
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: a segment about Yeah, but Lamar Jackson with a thicker build,

537
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: will he lose agility and speed? Was this the right move?

538
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: I like it? Is this the right move for Zach Wilson?

539
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: Damn right, it's the right move. I'm I'm taking a

540
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: straight from the New York Post, the paper of record

541
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Speaker 1: in this house down at the shore by the way.

542
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with the Post. By

543
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: the way. I feel like the posts got a different

544
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: vibe now than it did when I was reading it

545
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: on the subway in the two thousands. That always that way?

546
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: What sort of direction is it taken? What? What? The

547
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: ownership was always the same and it was leaning the same.

548
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: I think like a lot of things that might be

549
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: leading in even a little we're hard but I don't

550
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: think it's always that way. Yeah, I don't. I think

551
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: I think yeah, it's it's pretty wild what's going on

552
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: in the post these days. But anyway, the uh, here's

553
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: the lead. Zach Wilson's ex girlfriend appears to be dating

554
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: his college roommate, Washington Commander's wide receiver Dax Meline, after

555
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 1: she seemingly accused the Jets quarterback of cheating on her

556
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: with his mom's best friend. Wow, Zach, well, let's get

557
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: Graver in here, Grave Digger, there is a um significant

558
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: age difference between you and your paramore. Uh have you

559
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: found and we don't know if this is true. Of course,

560
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson isn't going to comment on it, at least

561
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: not at this point. Um. Here's another quote before I

562
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: actually do bring it to Grave Digger. Um in a

563
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: sense deleted comments. Someone connected to this said that Wilson

564
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: was quote sleeping with his mom's best friend. That's the

565
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: real homie hopper. I don't that one. I don't know. Okay, Um,

566
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Graver you're feeling this is this situation, and we know

567
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: the boy is still a boy. He's a little more

568
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: girthy now, but he still remains a boy. Do you

569
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: think he can handle this? Uh, the idea of dating

570
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: a woman several years older. Not everyone could do that.

571
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: Now you did it easily. No, I know that's not accurate. Actually, Um, no,

572
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: marriage the age, the age is similar similar. I thought

573
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: you were of similar age the two of you. Yes,

574
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm three years older than her. Actually, so it's

575
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: not really like Zack Wilson at all. But um, really

576
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: good for Zach Yah keeps on getting more interesting. Uh

577
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: huh um, No, because I had the I was I

578
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: was mistaken. I'm sorry. Well, I think I think we

579
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: go we come to graver for two things on this show,

580
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: titans analysis and like relationship stripe for like stealing other

581
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: people's significant other. So I think this is his lane.

582
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: I still think he might say he didn't steal. I

583
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: think he he swooped in, because I mean, the table

584
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: was set for you. The listeners should know he just

585
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: did a little thing with his hand, like, well, yeah,

586
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: I did kind of stealer away from a married man. No,

587
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: You're swooping is a good way to put it. Um opportunistic.

588
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: So like let's say, like the relationship was on the

589
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: rocks and you have the opportunity to to push their

590
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: ship back out to sea or just drag it over

591
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: the jetty to the shore, kill the other guy on

592
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: the boat and then get then then jump back in

593
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: the boat and push yourself out with an oar And

594
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: now it's smooth. Yeah, that's that's a pretty good description of,

595
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: metaphorically speaking, what happened. Um. But yeah, back to Zach Wilson.

596
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if this is like a

597
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: relationship or if it's just like a little one time

598
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: thing he did, the cheating on his girlfriend, and like

599
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: was it? What is he exploring a relationship with the

600
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: person he cheated with? Just like, how does the mom

601
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: feel about it? Because I I believe that. I mean,

602
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: the reporting is ex girlfriend. Uh, she's she's trying to

603
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: defend herself that she's now dating one of his best

604
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: friends and uh and she's coming with the fire of

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00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: saying like I had good reason for it. Well the

606
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: mom had. And Dan, you asked if if Zach Wilson

607
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: could handle it. I think he's already handled it, um

608
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: from a certain point of view. But he's got a dog.

609
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: He well he And it's funny because like the first

610
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: thing that started to happen was NFL players um from

611
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: every team passed and present, coming out of the woodwork

612
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: to essentially praise him. So I think it's um maybe

613
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: helped the Zach Wilson brand on some level. But you guys,

614
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: you guys were excited about it. This is popped up

615
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: on our absolutely text with a bunch of friends, and

616
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: it was it was as fired up about the Jets

617
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: as Mark and Dana then a long time. No, like,

618
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I think it's it's definitive proof that he's got that

619
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: dog in him and now he's he's added the weight,

620
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: he's beefed up, he's he's the little thick boy now

621
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: and uh, now you have this. This is gonna make

622
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: him his path to manhood is even you know, he's

623
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: going further down that road and it's only gonna lead

624
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: to greatness on the field. I think all of this

625
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: when we look back at where you could pull this

626
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: for a news drop for next year, when we look

627
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: back at everything that happened in the last six months

628
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: around Zack Wilson UM and then what happens in the

629
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: season to come, it's all connected to what's happened here

630
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: with the change to the body. Now this new relationship

631
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: to Stifler situation. He's got that dog in him, and

632
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: it's just it's gonna translate, and he is the guy.

633
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: He's the guy. It's finally it's a relationship. Though I'm

634
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: not I'm not. There's no hard evidence that it's a

635
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: ongoing UM relationship Dan, but they have related to each

636
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: other in some form. There's no question about that. His

637
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: mom being an influencer, which is kind of a wild

638
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: sitch for Zach. But she posted a cord to the post,

639
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: an emotional, nearly thirty minute long Instagram video Sunday decrying

640
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: the evils of social media and online predators. So, if

641
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: you want to that was also just a ps that

642
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: was largely about Um, her daughter, Zack's sister who Um

643
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: encountered a rather nefarious character online and she claimed to

644
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: have lost her influence over her daughter Um due to

645
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Satanic influence. So there's a lot happening inside the family.

646
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: From what I'm from you, I think there might be

647
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: something here for you. Mark was Wilson's mom married. I

648
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: don't know, Try to keep my I'm I've got my

649
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: handsful as it is. I'm fine, all right. Went to

650
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: by U, which is the Cougars. So it's all fitting.

651
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: Just everything works out. But um, it's got that dog

652
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: in him, It's got that cougar in him. This is

653
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: either the best or worst time for Zach Wilson for

654
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: this story to pop up. Is this week, Like he's

655
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: he's pretty much front page of the NFL right now,

656
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: justin Houston, back with the Ravens, Eddie Goldman to the Falcons.

657
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: And that's what's happening in the news. Let's take a break,

658
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: and then the Superstar Club is looking to become a

659
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: major superstar star. All right, here we go. It's time

660
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: every July. Every July. I promise you every July this

661
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: will be on the docket and I will write it.

662
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: As long as I'm with the company. They will say

663
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: to me, it's July. You know what that means. Now

664
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: you write this? So I write this the Superstar Club.

665
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: There is a finite number of superstars in the NFL.

666
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: Do you know how many of there are? No way more?

667
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: But I only talk about quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers

668
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: for the most part. Okay, tight ends those categories. There

669
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: are twenty eight for stars in the league. Okay, and

670
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: one bonus one which we're gonna get to I'm very

671
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: excited to talk about it. But let's start by again

672
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: introducing what is the Superstar Club. Yes, it is a club.

673
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: We're only the best of the best reside, okay, and

674
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: in every other year I've done this without exception. It's

675
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: a zero sum game. If I add someone to the club,

676
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: and I've been doing this for about five or six years,

677
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: I need to take somebody out, and you'd you'd be surprised,

678
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: and this is just the natural missile. Maybe you wouldn't

679
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: be surprised. It's the natural flow of sports guys EBB

680
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: and flow. Careers peak, then they come down and there

681
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: is a natural order in which guys fade out why

682
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: new while new guys come in. And it's interesting to

683
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: see in this type of exercise, who are those guys?

684
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: Because this is right, by the way, Sometimes these things

685
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: are framed as opinion pieces, but this is it. This

686
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: is this is the definitive Superstar because it's on NFL

687
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: dot com and it's scientific. It's not just your opinion.

688
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: It's there's a lot that went into it. If the

689
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: reader could tell that immediately, right, it's not um gobet

690
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: sports dot org. You know, It's not some other fugais

691
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: sports site ESPN. No, this is NFL dot Com. So

692
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: just think about that. If there's someone's writing this on

693
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: NFL dot com, it has to be right. This is

694
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: the top, this is a fourteen billion dollar company. How

695
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: could it be wrong? Think about that the NFL dot Com.

696
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: You're right, never been wrong about anything, Very very savvy. Also,

697
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: this is a perfect time of year for the Superstar Club.

698
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: I see a lot of a lot of news stories

699
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: about the Superstar Club home home fans getting excited or

700
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: angry this and you know, I again, for all of us,

701
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: maybe some more than others, but certainly for me, I'm

702
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: trying to enjoy these last few weeks before we really

703
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: dig back in. And I went and I pulled up

704
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: this article, uh a few minutes ago, and I was

705
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: stunned by some of the decisions that were made. I

706
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: don't remember writing this really. So we're all going to

707
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: kind of celebrate this together and dig in and and

708
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: debate what was right, what seems wrong but is not

709
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: because it's on the website of the National Football League.

710
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Let's dig in. Superstar Club two thousand twenty two. Let's

711
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: start with the big quarterback position. Okay, and we have

712
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: some new names. Let's see, we have two new names.

713
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: And I hate when I hate when I'm a year off,

714
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: but I was Okay. So Joe Burrow is in the

715
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Superstar Club. Congratulations Joe, what a moment for you. Welcome

716
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: his year two obviously incredible. I don't need to give

717
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: you a rundown of what made year two for Joe

718
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: Burrow so great. But coming back from the knee injury,

719
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: taking the Bangles of all teams, uh, within one drive

720
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: of winning the Super Bowl. He's in have to take

721
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: somebody out. Zero sum game. Matt Ryan. It's been a

722
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: hell of a run for Mattie Ice, an incredible player.

723
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: I feel I've been dumping on Mattie Ice on this

724
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: podcast this offseason, but I really like Matt Ryan. I've

725
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: always liked him. You guys know. My frustrating relationship I've

726
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: had with him was I always draft him in fantasy

727
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: because I just like liked them. I just liked the dude.

728
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: And then when he threw exactly twenty six touchdowns for

729
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: ten straight years other than two thousand seventeen, that did

730
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: frustrate me. But I liked the man. He's got to

731
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: go at thirty seven years old. I think he is

732
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: going to be an asset for the Colts, but I

733
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: think the days of him being an m v P

734
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: level gun slinger are over. So he steps out of

735
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: the Superstar Club. It was a great run. No shame

736
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: in leaving, because everybody does eventually disagree on Ryan. Now

737
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: those two are easy. I feel like you you're you're

738
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: looking for layups as a Superstar Club bouncer. You got

739
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: a few there at quarterback, which I think is the

740
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: toughest position on the board, and from a zero sum angle,

741
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: like I don't know, look, you'll you'll reveal who else

742
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: is on it. I don't else you would have pulled out.

743
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: Ryan was the was the only overt easy choice there.

744
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: And you were a year I don't think you were

745
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: a year late on Burrow. I think you were a

746
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: year late on this next guy, Burrow at this point

747
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: a year ago. Right, you're right. I kind of swapped

748
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: him in my head just now. Yes, I am a

749
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: year late, justin Herbert, because he put enough on tape

750
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: year one with the charges to show that WHOA, this

751
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: guy is special, And yet I went with the old

752
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: Oh that was a nice season, but I don't want

753
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: to see more. And then he was even better and

754
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: and he just showed that. You know, he is a

755
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: absolute superstar. That is the word he's wrote in the piece.

756
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: The master of the thirty five yeard yard turkey whole shot.

757
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: He's the king of the scramble and sixty yard He

758
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: the expert of that ten yards sandwich coverage dart if

759
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: you remember, and that and that crazy drive at the

760
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: end of the season against I believe it was the Raiders. Um,

761
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: that's it. He's he's he's in a golden age of

762
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: the position. We have a kid here that has delivered

763
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: more wild plays than basically anyone in the past two

764
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: seasons should have done it. Last year, he's in out

765
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: this one just to get Greggy fired up. From Japan,

766
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna shake Tokyo. What's the New York City you

767
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: are right now, okay Otto, I'm in Tokyo. I'm yeah.

768
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: My in laws live in Tokyo, right in the heart

769
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: of it. I love it. Look at you from Los

770
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Angeles to to from New York City to Los Angeles

771
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: to Tokyo. You are a big city man. I only

772
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: go big and what that is Kyler Murray. I put

773
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: him in last year, and I reserve the right. Everyone's

774
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: on a one year probationary period in the Superstar club,

775
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: and I think I have to take a step back.

776
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Greg, I know you disagree with this, but

777
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: there have been elements of the last two years that

778
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: have bothered me, but especially this past year with the

779
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: injury again and and the way things went in the playoffs,

780
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: and then what happened after the playoffs, which I'm not

781
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: gonna get too hung up on that side of the drama.

782
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: The obviously the back and forth and the contract stuff.

783
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: But I think maybe I got sucked in with his

784
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: flair for the great highlight play and maybe looked past

785
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: some of the other elements that could hold them back

786
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: from being a superstar. So now I'm taking them out.

787
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: And again, would I take them out if it wasn't

788
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: a zero sum situation. No, I think it would have

789
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: left him in. But that's not the rules of the game,

790
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: and maybe that means the rules are flawed as hell,

791
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: but we're in too deep to change it. For for

792
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: the most part, Greg, tell me why I'm wrong, Well,

793
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: because quarterbacks are superstars, so it's more about the game.

794
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: I think if when I look at the list of

795
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are on there, there isn't one that I

796
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: would put behind Kyler Murray in terms of being a

797
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: superstar and earning his spot. So I actually don't really

798
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: have a huge problem. It's just I guess quarterbacks have

799
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: to be a bigger a bigger group, because to me,

800
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: he he's a one name guy. Like people know Kyler

801
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: Murray like he's such a unit. He has a he

802
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: has a particular style too to his game. Like even

803
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: all the contracts stuff this offseason, I think that showed

804
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: just how much people know and are aware of Kyler Murray.

805
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying I was mad here from Japan,

806
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: because you know, Kyler does represent the Asian American community

807
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: well of course part Korean um, and so that that

808
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: even that even expands his reach. But then again, the

809
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Matthew Stafford's not on this list too,

810
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: So that's that's two quarterbacks right there that to me

811
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: are superstars. But in the zero sum game, I there

812
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: is no other quarterback on your list. I don't know

813
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: if you want to go through all ten of them

814
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: that I would put ahead of those guys. Actually, if

815
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: you're sticking it at ten, I agree with you, or

816
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: whatever the number is, I agree with you. I just

817
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: think those guys are superstars could compared to us these

818
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: other positions. You can't tell me that Kyler Murray and

819
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford aren't superstars versus some of these running backs

820
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: are tight ends and stuff. If that Mark Sel, Yeah,

821
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: I know Matthew Stafford had an incredible playoff run and

822
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: a really good first season. Uh in Los Angeles. When

823
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: you think Matthew Stafford, is that a superstar quarterback with

824
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: this situation, Um, there's a quarterback I would flip out

825
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: that remains on your list with Matthew Stafford is someone

826
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: I would take away. I think I know who it's

827
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna be. Let me hear what you're gonna say, Dak Prescott.

828
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: But now I saw the article, But I'm with Greg though.

829
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: The thing is, it's the zero some part of this.

830
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: This is a club. The bouncer has to make tough decisions. Um,

831
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: there's obviously chaotic environments occurring, and the bouncer has to

832
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: go with his instincts. So it's not an argument that

833
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford for me isn't a superstar that Carler Murray isn't,

834
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott isn't. But if you're something about taking

835
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: one guy out to put someone else in, I would

836
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: have been comfortable flipping Dak out and putting Matthew Stafford

837
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: in with the idea that that could change down the road.

838
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: The idea of what Greg you were saying, how the

839
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: quarterback is the superstar ups issue really at all of sports, um,

840
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: And I think he for me and I would imagine

841
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: for a lot of other people as well. One thing

842
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: you have to say, the Cowboys do things differently, They're

843
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: viewed differently, And it felt the SI Tony Romo in

844
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, Like I think he gets a

845
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: little bumped because he's the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys,

846
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: and I think there's something that comes with that. He's

847
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: box office. So even though he took a little bit

848
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: of a step back in some ways, and I know

849
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: he was coming back from injury, UM, I felt um

850
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: comfortable given in another year and didn't really think too

851
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: hard about it actually. Um. But I understand when you

852
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: start doing things like well, if Kyler is out and

853
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: Stafford's out, then then you're saying they're less superstar material

854
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: than Dak And it gets a little tricky, but I'm

855
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: standing by it. I stick to my story. We'll put

856
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: Stafford sneaky good cell phone commercial with your girl. Uh,

857
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: that's a great commerce Miriam job, and that he did

858
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: a nice job. He he didn't even get the Super

859
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP. Like he had the best four game stretch

860
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: of his entire season to go win a Super Bowl

861
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: in incredible fourth quarter comebacks against the best teams in

862
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: the league, beating uh, Tom Brady along the way. It's like,

863
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: if I'm Matthew Stafford, He's like, what more do I

864
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: gotta do? I'm not allowed in the club? Who's that going?

865
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: But oh, Darren Waller, Oh yeah, Darren Waller like what well?

866
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: Darren Waller was at the broadcast boot camp more fence.

867
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying when we were sharing with all these

868
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: star players how to have a successful podcast, and I

869
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: could just feel the electricity in the room to be

870
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: around to Darren Waller while he was zoned in on

871
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: every word we were saying during that particular event. Dan.

872
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: My one argument though, because if you talk about Dak

873
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Prescott getting bumped because of the Dallas Cowboys and you're

874
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: not that. I get it, especially in a club environment

875
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: that matters. But the league would want you to acknowledge

876
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: that Matthew Stafford winning the Super Bowl with their precious

877
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. And I literally don't even mean that

878
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: in a negative way, but the Rams have been set

879
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: up to become probably Cowboys one B to some degree.

880
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's like that's what they want them to be,

881
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: and he wanted Super Bowl with them. The plan went

882
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: absolutely perfectly according to plan, and uh I that's where

883
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: I bump. I think he has you know where you

884
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: know who I am in this exer says, I'm John

885
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: Harbob the Ravens, always throwing out rules changes, and I'm

886
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: like just trying to change the structure because I like, again,

887
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: Kyler and Stafford are standing outside there like you've gotta

888
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: be kidding me. I make thirty million dollars a year,

889
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: We're on the biggest games. Who's that going? Oh it's

890
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. Chubb to swok By. I mean, I want

891
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: to change the structure and I want two more quarterbacks

892
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: in it. All right, Well, it's something that's I'll think about. Well,

893
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: if you remind me next summer, I will think about

894
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: it otherwise, Nick, you're you're really going to add a

895
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: lot to this party. I would love to see you

896
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: tell I'll next shoved that to his face because he

897
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: could probably squeeze your the life out of you with

898
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: his right hand. It's it's Matthew Stafford doing it. The

899
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: updated QB membership of the Superstar Club Josh Allen. This

900
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: is out belt order, so don't read into it. Everybody's

901
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: always reading it into everything. Take you take a seat

902
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: and relax. Take a puff of the peace pipe. Josh Allen,

903
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes,

904
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson. I had to pull

905
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson because all these fun little offseason articles.

906
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: He ruins everything that's easy. I can't you just you're

907
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: just off this conversation. Yeah, I think you can. If

908
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: if the NFL can just spend him, you can certainly suspend.

909
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: He's been suspended from the Superstar Club. But noways never better.

910
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: There's never been a better list of superstar quarterbacks in

911
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: NFL's history. I'd like you to off with thirteen names

912
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Twelve names that are as good

913
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: as this running back gonna become a major superstar a

914
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: year late. Jonathan Taylor, welcome, unbelievable. Don't need to get

915
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: into how incredible he was, and I will say this, Uh,

916
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: he's entering his age twenty three campaign. He has a

917
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: better quarterback most likely if you believe in regression or

918
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: just luck. Uhock a blocking front that will be healthier

919
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: and better given Frank Reich's tendencies. I think a run

920
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: of two thousand yards rushing, especially in the seventeen game

921
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: season in play. He is a superstar. Jonathan Taylor out

922
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley, and I wrote last year that um

923
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: I left him in even though I had misgivings coming

924
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: off the knee injury and a slow rehab and obviously

925
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: all the other things, but this was obviously a no brainer. UM.

926
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: He averaged just three point seven yards per carry less

927
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: season did not look explosive at all. I hold out

928
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: hope that he's going to bounce back in a better

929
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: situation with Joe Judge and Jason Garrett out the door,

930
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: but at twenty five years old, he has to prove

931
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: he is not kind of the next I hate to

932
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: say this, but the next Todd Gurley type guy who

933
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: goes from superstar player two out of the league by

934
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: hard to argue with that. He's like, doesn't even come

935
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: up that quickly when we talk about the Giants, So

936
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a clear sign of where

937
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: he's at. Maybe he'll maybe he'll bounce back. But we

938
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: we talked about the Giants a lot, and like se

939
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: Quan doesn't even come up anymore. He should, he should

940
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: if if they're going to be interesting this year, he's

941
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: going to be a big part of that. But he

942
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: is not a superstar anymore. There's there's too many running backs.

943
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: So I guess is my is my issue? I guess

944
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: if I mean, it's nothing personal against Chubb, but he

945
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: it's more just like not a huge he deserves it

946
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: in terms of how good. You're just saying that because

947
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: he has, you know, kind of a bad name, like

948
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: you're you're down on him because his name is Nick Chuck.

949
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: I love him as a player. I think his global

950
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: or you know, American influence as like a big name

951
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: in the sport right now, it's you know, it's not

952
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: it's not close to the Kyler Murray and Matthews. Well,

953
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: one of the reasons is Nick Chubb does almost no

954
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: public endorsements that we know if he barely speaks. He's

955
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: sort of a silent warrior. But from from the angle

956
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: of his actual play, he is a superstar. Right now,

957
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: I take it back. I've always been a huge fan

958
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: of Shop. But the other names. You got the names, right,

959
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question at running Back. I

960
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: think you got the names. Like Nick Chubb's name was

961
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: curiakos P Champion, you'd be like, oh, yeah, put him in,

962
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: keep him in forever. But you're you're doing. I think

963
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: you're give him a little uh. Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry,

964
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: those just sound like guys that like, oh, of course,

965
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: welcome Mr Henry. Uh, welcome Cook. You know you're coming

966
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: into the club. Alright. I do question though, how a question?

967
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: How do you assess injuries on this? Well? Why don't

968
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: you read the list? Because I'm running back membership? Nick Chubb,

969
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, Alvin Kamara, Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor. Um,

970
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: how do I You just got to keep an eye

971
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: on it. You just you know, like mc affrey, obviously

972
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: you could if I was in a tough spot. And

973
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: let's say, for instance, Joe Mixon was who was great

974
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: last year, but let's say he was otherworldly last year

975
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: to the point where he had to be in the

976
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: club and I had to pull somebody. You know, I'm starting.

977
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: McCaffrey is a guy you can make a case because

978
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: it's basically a two straight years ruined by injury. Um,

979
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: But because the natures of the injuries, Um, it's not

980
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: the type of injuries where oh, he's not the same

981
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: guy anymore. They're more a lot of like soft tissue

982
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: issues things like that. I think that McCaffrey, I'm I'm

983
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 1: okay with waiting it out another year. I could regret

984
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: that next year, but I felt like that was the

985
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: play way to go. The other guy, obviously, is Derrick Henry,

986
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: who you say, man, he's got a ton of mileage.

987
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: You look at his where he's at now in terms

988
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: of career totes, and you start to you look at

989
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: the data points and apparently this is where a guy

990
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: goes down and he has screws in his feet now

991
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. Um, but I'm not gonna

992
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: take Derrick Derrick Henry out of the Superstar Club right now.

993
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna do it. I'd rather wait a

994
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: year two long. It feels like the group with the

995
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: most year to year variants, where two or three guys

996
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: could come in and guys could exit to just based

997
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: on age. I mean McCaffrey's to me, he's right on

998
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: the razor's edge because he's not available. And that's not

999
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: that different than say, quantum matter what the injuries have been,

1000
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: all right, let's move so wide receiver. I had to

1001
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: do it. I had to add two spots because it's

1002
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: just the frequency and the rate of these guys coming

1003
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: into the league and blowing up the league. It's outpacing

1004
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: guys that are coming out of their prime. So you

1005
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: could tell me that I failed in this project because

1006
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: I didn't make it zero some of wide receiver. But

1007
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: I needed to make a change. Maybe I'll feel the

1008
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: same way about quarterback next year, Greg, when you know

1009
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: when your boys go off and make me look bad

1010
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: next year, but we shall see. I have Cooper Cup.

1011
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: Now people are gonna say, hey, Jack, why wasn't Cooper

1012
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: Cup in the Superstar Club before this last year? Look

1013
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: at his career and then look at two thousand, twenty one.

1014
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: He was always good to very good to maybe great,

1015
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: but becoming the Triple Crown guy, becoming the unstoppable force

1016
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: and the super Bowl when they get when all the

1017
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: chips were down, like all that stuff was a progression

1018
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: with a different quarterback that obviously I didn't see coming.

1019
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 1: But he's an easy in for me. Is that fair?

1020
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: Like it was a bad but I think that's totally fair.

1021
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: I went to like just to look at the numbers,

1022
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a good reminder. He didn't have

1023
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: a thousand yards in grant a little hurt even d

1024
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: sixty yards in nineteen was his peak. So I think

1025
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: the Superstar Club isn't a predictive service. It's a validation.

1026
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: It's the crowning achievement of a career. That's good. It's

1027
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: also but it's another argument for Matthew Stafford too because

1028
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: it was it was their connection as well. All Right,

1029
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna go I'm gonna tell you the

1030
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: four guys that are in, and then i'll get to

1031
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: the two guys that I took out. So I gotta

1032
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: put a cup. I'm not gonna be cute here. Jamaar

1033
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: Chase is already in based off his rookoun season. I mean,

1034
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: these guys, when they hit the ground running as a

1035
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: day one superstar, they're not gonna turn into a pumpkin.

1036
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: That's who they are. Barring injury. This is gonna be

1037
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: a great long career. Easy so. And by the way,

1038
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: Cincinnati fans, congratulations, like you have at your quarterback and

1039
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: a wide receiver entering the Superstar club before their age.

1040
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: You know, twenty five seasons. In Chase's case, I believe

1041
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: he's twenty two, my goodness. UM. And then Justin Jefferson.

1042
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: I should have put him in last year. That's a

1043
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: bad job at me. UM, But I didn't make I

1044
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna make the same mistake twice, which is why

1045
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: I did put in Um. Why I did put in

1046
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase. I said, listen, I don't need to see more.

1047
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: I didn't need to see more from Justin Jefferson last year.

1048
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: He just did the same thing again. He's in now.

1049
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel also in now. You could push back a

1050
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: little bit on this if you want, UM, but I'm

1051
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: just not gonna do it because I use a unicorn.

1052
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: He's a type of guy that any team would love

1053
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: to have. And oh, by the way, we brought him

1054
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: up a little earlier. He hasn't rescinded his trade demand

1055
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: from what we're hearing. Just throwing that out there. But

1056
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: some good stats um on Samuel from PFF. Uh. He

1057
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: averaged nearly eleven yards after the catch per reception last

1058
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: year after the catch eleven yards best in the NFL.

1059
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: He broke fourteen runs of ten plus yards in the season,

1060
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: had fourteen touchdowns for a Niners offense that would have

1061
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: been lost without him. Um, so you add Debot as well. Now,

1062
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: you guys good with all four of those guys going in. Yes,

1063
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: usually this is a position where I pushed back the most,

1064
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: and I like all your receiver decisions. All right, I'm

1065
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: taking out Michael Thomas. And I know this is Saints

1066
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: fan central now this show, but I have to take

1067
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: out Michael Thomas. Too many injuries and the fact that

1068
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: we're getting some weird reports about his availability even now

1069
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: that ankle. I don't know what's going on with him. Uh.

1070
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: He could come back and and be a really competitive,

1071
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: a really productive player. He could be a star again,

1072
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: could be a superstar again. But I need to make

1073
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: some tough decisions here, and um, I just don't know

1074
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: without Sean Payton, without Drew Brees missing, you know, the

1075
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: better part of two years with a lower body injury

1076
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: at age twenty nine, I just can't say he's going

1077
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: to be that guy anymore. Where do you guys come

1078
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: down there? I'd feel like this is where you need

1079
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: a very strong hiring process for your bouncers because I

1080
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: don't want to be the man to tell Michael Thomas

1081
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: he has to leave the club. He surprisingly was there

1082
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: a lot, like throughout his rehab, like and he was

1083
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: in the cast and everything, but like he never leaves.

1084
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: Right to tell him to go, I would be I

1085
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: would be fearful, but I think it's the right move.

1086
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever had someone get, you know, deep six

1087
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: from the club? Then they then they're allowed back in.

1088
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: Um down the road, let's say Michael Thomas to Monster Seasons. Yeah,

1089
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: the humiliating Tom Brady situation, Superstar Club. That is something

1090
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: that does washed out, but it is what it is.

1091
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for bringing that up, um. Just I do

1092
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: want to mention an article on zone coverage dot com

1093
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: entitled Dan Hansas finally puts justin Jefferson in his Superstar

1094
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: Club where they say, you know you own up to

1095
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: making a mistake and then I'm gonna just read something

1096
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: from the last paragraph. Despite it being a silly sort

1097
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: of club, Jefferson's induction into the Superstar Club has given

1098
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: the Vikings fans legitimacy in their arguments this past offseason

1099
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: when they told everyone, especially I mean so that he's

1100
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: now saying like this is ultimately he said it was silly,

1101
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: but then he ultimately said it was validating in a

1102
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: mental lot to him. Hey, NFL dot com, Yeah, I

1103
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: think he unspooled his own argument. You can't call the

1104
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: club silly then turn around and say it's changed the

1105
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: complexion of the fan bases verbal words on it. So

1106
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: that alone, if I could give people content to work

1107
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: off their block ugs, that that makes us even more

1108
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: rewarding to me, whether it's complimentary or not. Just before

1109
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: we move off, Thomas, I just want people to remember

1110
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: and this is it didn't give me pause. I thought

1111
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: this is the move that had to be made um

1112
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: and I personally will not be handling it. I have

1113
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: like a Patrick Swayze in roadhouse type bouncer who's gonna

1114
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: handle this. He's gonna be cool until it's time to

1115
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: not be cool. Um. But he had two hundred and

1116
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: seventy four catches for three thousand, one thirty yards and

1117
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: eighteen touchdowns in the two seasons before he got hurt

1118
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: in Week one, that angle injury. That's basically it makes

1119
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: Davante Adams look pedestrian. Now Packers fan will write an

1120
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: article saying, well, actually, Davante Adams has better stats over

1121
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: those past two years he's in the club. Well, I

1122
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: think you're doing You're churning out content just with your

1123
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: I also had to take out Julio Jones. Uh. Probably

1124
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: should have done it last year, but I was just

1125
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: giving him respect. That's just respect for one of the

1126
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: greatest wide receivers of his generation and graver. And you know,

1127
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were justin going into last season thinking, Okay,

1128
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: we know he's older, we know he battles injuries. But

1129
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure there was in the back of your mind

1130
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: this idea that maybe he would be a monster for you.

1131
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: And that wasn't a crazy thought last summer, even in

1132
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: a run heavy offense. I just never really happened. Obviously,

1133
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: you had some moments, but was no longer the same player.

1134
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: It's true. You know, we Titans fans last year, we're like, oh,

1135
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: he only played nine games for Atlanta because they had

1136
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,919
Speaker 1: no shot at the playoffs. So I pushed him through

1137
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: a soft tissue injury. But that was not the case.

1138
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: He is. His hamstrings are probably not suitable to play

1139
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: football anymore. He also doesn't have a job for yeah,

1140
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: which is for sustained period. I mean, I just hang

1141
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: it up, hang it up, enjoy your life, be able

1142
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: to walk forever. That's what I say. I don't know.

1143
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: Usually we don't like to tell people what to do

1144
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: with their jobs, but that is maybe that's that's graver

1145
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: giving Julio Jones the old Adrian. You can't win Rocky.

1146
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: He's in the Adrian role right now anyway. Updated wide

1147
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: receiver membership Davante Adams, A J. Brown, Jamaar, Chase Stefon Diggs,

1148
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, DeAndre Hopkins. I gave a little thought too,

1149
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, Cooper, Cup, DK Metcalf, Deebo Samuel some close calls.

1150
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: I took out Mike Evans last year. I caught I

1151
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: catch heat for that. Still um uh ceedee lamb not

1152
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: quite there yet. I thought he would be in this year,

1153
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: but he's not. That's about it, unless you want to

1154
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: get hot in the pants about Tee Higgins or Terry McLaurin.

1155
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: But thoughts, I'd like to see where we are a

1156
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: year from now with Tyreek Hill. I mean, I think

1157
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: he's superstar ability, but the exercise. Also, let's say the

1158
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: environment isn't right in He's his numbers fall off and

1159
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: things go a bit south there, Like I mean, you

1160
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: can in a one world you could see that happening.

1161
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: How does that affect his club membership? I feel like

1162
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: there's been a big offseason for him though he's you know,

1163
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 1: he's been doing this podcast, which is getting attention. I

1164
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: feel like every time he talks about to and makes

1165
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: national it's almost like he's been the supporting actor who's

1166
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: now going off for his own show. I feel like

1167
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: he's the biggest star in Miami. I just makes sense.

1168
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: I think he doth protests too much about um to

1169
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: H on some level. I just there's too much back

1170
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: into It's like it just and and then knocking down

1171
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. It's like, what are we doing here? I

1172
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: don't know if he was a knockative down too much.

1173
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: But the the DeAndre Hopkins mentioned, I was thinking the

1174
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: same thing that he when he played last year, he

1175
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: wasn't quite the same Nuke and he'd missed time and

1176
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: so he's someone to watch. But I've agreed everything right,

1177
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be suspended to start this year. I

1178
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: agreed with almost everything, and I think he nailed the

1179
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: the rest fevers and I think you should air on

1180
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: keeping a guy who has that name value like DeAndre

1181
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: Hopkins one extra year if if they're still young enough.

1182
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: And you did, Yeah, that was and I wrote in

1183
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 1: the piece, you know, are you the same guy Nuke?

1184
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: It's a guy to keep a close eye on when

1185
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: he comes back from the six game p D band uh,

1186
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: because Kyler Murray needs him to be that guy. Uh

1187
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: tight end. I didn't make any additions. Greg mocked Darren

1188
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: Waller everything that he's overcome in his life and the hights,

1189
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: the heights of his achievements on the field. Um, you

1190
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: believe he's a man that doesn't deserve to be he

1191
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: deserves to me. If there's three tight ends, he is great.

1192
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: I was making the positional value argument that like I

1193
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: would rather even have an extra quarterback, then a third

1194
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: tight end. I also think you're adding capacity, you know,

1195
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: at a time when the COVID cases are picking up.

1196
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: So that's just an interesting DECI is for you to

1197
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: make to add capacity to the club. I have one

1198
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: question about your your tight end um scenario. Where is

1199
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: margat don't you know that? Where Where is Mark Andrews

1200
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: in this? I think he had like the six months

1201
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: receiving yards in the league last year. I know they don't.

1202
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: I know he's featured dominantly in that offense. But that's

1203
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: true of these other three guys too. Okay, I'm gonna

1204
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Sure, just answer the first thing

1205
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: that comes in your head when I asked this question.

1206
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: All I ask for you to do is not to

1207
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: overthink it. Just give me the first instinct you have.

1208
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: M is Mark Andrews a superstar Kitty Cats. You said

1209
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: the first thing that comes into my head. Um, I

1210
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: I think in this, in this tight end exercise, I

1211
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: think he is. But Waller does have kind of that value,

1212
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: like he his story was so good and he's their

1213
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: main guy that he does have that that port of

1214
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: star wattage value and and I hate to say it,

1215
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: because Mark Andrews is just as good I think as

1216
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: Darren Waller, and last year was as good as as

1217
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: Kittle for for for just last year. But you say,

1218
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: what's the first thing like in a big spot you

1219
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: think of Mark Andrews. I think of those drops in

1220
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs that he's had, which are totally uncharacteristic. He's

1221
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: got great hands, but in a big spot in the

1222
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: in the game that the Ravens blew against the Titans,

1223
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: you gotta catch the football. I'll say as well on

1224
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: the subject of Waller, tremendous athlete and has it all.

1225
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: He took a step back last year put him in

1226
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: the club and then he took step back, So I

1227
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe he's partying a little too hard in

1228
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: the club. Well, I don't want to make light of that.

1229
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: He's had issues in past, but I think he's a

1230
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: guy I want to see where he fits in. Obviously

1231
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a key part of that offense in Vegas,

1232
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: but now Davante's Adams is there could be better for him,

1233
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: or he could kind of become I'm not gonna say wallpaper,

1234
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: but is he going to be a dominant, big producer,

1235
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: stud in that offense will be interesting to see tight

1236
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: end membership. Travis Kelsey. Keep it eye on Kelsey. Maybe

1237
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: lost a step last year, a step, That's what I

1238
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: thought until the last month or so, and then he

1239
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: took over, including in that Bill's game. Then he's the

1240
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: other direction because Tyreek Hill is gone, so you have

1241
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: Waller gets a Superstar wide receiver coming into the building.

1242
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey loses Tyreek Hill, which I guess means more targets,

1243
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: but also the field all of a sudden is gonna

1244
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: get a little tighter for a thirty plus tight ends.

1245
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on it, but Kelsey, Kittle Waller. But

1246
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: people should know Kyle Pitts is knocking on the door.

1247
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: He's not there yet. I thought about it, but you can't.

1248
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: You can't make you can't take a leap of faith

1249
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: for the Superstar Club. He's not he's not in there yet.

1250
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 1: I think that's you made the right choice. But taking

1251
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: bus there, I'm I can't wait to put him in

1252
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: next year because I think it's gonna happen. And Ravens

1253
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: fans who are upset about the Mark Andrews thing, and

1254
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: I heard from them, Well, I got good news because

1255
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: you got Lamar and you got somebody else for the

1256
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 1: first time ever the Superstar Club and then like the

1257
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: X Thing and the Kicker Club combined for the Party

1258
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: of the Century. Baby, justin Tucker, you're coming in the door.

1259
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 1: You're a superstar, buddy, you did it. Picture. I'm wearing

1260
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: a full length white mink coat, no shirt underneath, but

1261
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: a huge gold chain in the shades the whole thing.

1262
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: I put him in. You know why? You know I

1263
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: put him in. You know why. He's the first Superstar Kicker.

1264
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: He's one of one. He's an automatic all Pro. He's

1265
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: an indispensable piece of a legit, a f C contender.

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01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: He has an unmatched resume. He has mastered the sport's

1267
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: most pressure filled and relentlessly scrutinized position. I no quarterback,

1268
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: you could say too, but it's different. He should be

1269
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: a first first ballot Hall of Famer when his time comes,

1270
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: which isn't even close. And oh, by the way, like

1271
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: just to remind everyone of what you know, I've been

1272
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: talking about for years on this show, that this guy

1273
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: is a god. He hit a camp sixty six yard

1274
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: field goal last year at the Gun to beat the

1275
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: Lions and almost killed Dan Campbell, this is a superstar

1276
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: and I know you by your test Gregor gets about

1277
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: swagging like that charisma, he has that too. Yeah you

1278
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: you sent this out on socialis and I said, absolutely, yes,

1279
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: he is a superstar. This does give me sort of

1280
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: visions of like those eighties movies where like at the

1281
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: end of the movie the popular kids kind of welcome

1282
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: in the nerd and you know it means a lot

1283
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: to him, like you alright, Justin. No, it's like you're

1284
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: all right, Tucker, Like part of if I was justin Tucking,

1285
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: part of it's like what took so long? But I

1286
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: think he always has an eye on the bigger Kicker

1287
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: community and wants to represent and knows knows what it

1288
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: means to be the first Kicker to break new boundaries.

1289
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: So he's not going to be like a t o

1290
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: not showing up for the Hall of Fame. He's gonna

1291
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: love this and does the Superstar Club. I mean, this

1292
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: is a thriving operation. They were aware of the Kicker

1293
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: Club and that Justin Tucker was a regular there and um,

1294
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, keeping that business alive. So now he's working

1295
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: with both. I mean, but was that did that delay

1296
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: his entrance into this because he was already part of

1297
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: another tavern. It just got to a point. And I

1298
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 1: really do think the kick at Ford Field, Um, that

1299
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: was it put him over the top. To me. Uh,

1300
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 1: that just was like the minder, this is a a

1301
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: different dude. Um. And I did as I do every

1302
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: year for this, When I'm writing this late at night,

1303
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: I'll send out a couple of tweets to the people,

1304
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: uh poll tweets, just to see where people stand on

1305
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: certain things. So I'll start with I'll start with Justin Tucker.

1306
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: It's Justin Tucker Superstar. Almost six thousand people voted said yes.

1307
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: Same question. Is Kyler Murray as Superstar? Said no? M

1308
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, same question. The other one I really struggled

1309
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: with votes Fifty seven point four percent said no. Still

1310
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 1: like getting that last the Kyler. The Kyler one tilted

1311
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 1: heavier than I would have imagined, but I I would

1312
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: go no. Also, he's had a tough offseason in the

1313
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: court of public opinion. I think so I didn't put

1314
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: a huge amount into up, but I guess it post season.

1315
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: I think I think that's I think that's most of

1316
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: it is that he had the worst game that I

1317
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: think of his career. That's the worst social media game too.

1318
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: So it was just like, that's a toughie back to back.

1319
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the worst postseason starts

1320
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: by any quarterback, much less one trying to be a superstar.

1321
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: Oh you were you were letting him off the hook.

1322
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: The day after that, I was just saying it was

1323
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: one game, you know, but there was no like defend it.

1324
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't think one game like de fines who he is,

1325
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: the fact that it came in the playoffs and all that.

1326
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: That's it's unfortunately about his gaming addiction. Does that concern you, Greg? No?

1327
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: If anything, it raises his popularity with the kids. You know,

1328
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: my son, Harrison, my five year old son is very,

1329
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: very athletic, and he was playing sports. But you know,

1330
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: they watch YouTube occasionally. I try not to, but they

1331
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: love it and they you know, a good sometimes it

1332
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: helps us when we're just trying to survive. Um, so

1333
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 1: they get into some of these gamers and then uh,

1334
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: I asked him like, so we're talking about like, oh,

1335
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: what what would be your nickname? And he looked at me,

1336
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: He's like, Gama Harrison, yea, So maybe I have a concern,

1337
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: so maybe I shouldn't judge. I'm dealing with a potential addict.

1338
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: Oh I have to um like raging gaming addicts in

1339
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: my house. So if that's already begun to Harrison, you're

1340
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: in deep water. I can promise you that, um there

1341
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: it is. That's a superstar club. And if there's someone

1342
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: out there that thinks this is silly or trite because

1343
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: I didn't dig into the offensive line or the defensive

1344
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: line or the defense in general, um I, I guess

1345
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: I could just say to you, it's July, and that's

1346
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: what I was open to doing, and I thought those

1347
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: are the most fun positions to talk about and eat it,

1348
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: take another puff of the peace pipe, and just move on.

1349
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't have to get so confrontational

1350
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: there at the end of segments. But did you get

1351
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: a lot of heat for that? I mean, do you

1352
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: get a lot of complaints? No? People, you know, people

1353
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: get fired up about the you know, the selections, but

1354
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 1: no one is ever like this isn't complete, which is

1355
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: maybe a fair If Greg was still the boss back,

1356
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: you should probably have the whole I did not. I

1357
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: mean maybe I was when this started. I don't even

1358
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: know it's been around so long. I think it's it's savvy,

1359
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: it's well timed to to get attention. Another headline. I

1360
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 1: found Terry McLaurin close but not yet a superstar, So

1361
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: you are the definitive like they don't have any opinions,

1362
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: legitimate weight. It's just the fact that he's not a

1363
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: superstar yet. That feels good. That's a NFL dot com pop.

1364
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: You know, we're pretty lucky to have our jobs. He

1365
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: got a Bengals espionation website, Joe Burrow and Jamaar Chase

1366
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: enter into superstar status. Beautiful. I remember grinding it out

1367
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: as a younger man, writing one to two posts on

1368
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: my Yankee blog a day for the whole year, and

1369
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: you know, getting a few hundred views and a couple

1370
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 1: of comments. I don't take the platform lightly. Just like

1371
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: this podcast, I'm being sincere. This is awesome that we

1372
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: could have these silly conversations and people are into it.

1373
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: That's awesome that we can do it from three different

1374
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: time zones. And I'm pulling this off while getting an

1375
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: extra week with the fam. So what's what happened? What

1376
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: else happens in the future? Greg, Yeah, share with us Um, well,

1377
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: my kids are starting to make some noise here in

1378
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: the future that will happen for you. Let's see everything,

1379
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: um is cleaner. Technologically, it really does feel like the

1380
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 1: future here because they're they're just like a little ahead

1381
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 1: and technology g like. We went to a like a

1382
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: museum almost like a digital zoo. It's like it's like,

1383
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: once climate change just ruins animals, this will be the

1384
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: types of zoos where we were walking around indoors and

1385
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: it was like almost like virtual reality, digital animals that

1386
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: you would have to like find, you know, it felt

1387
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: very something that will be won't be in the state,

1388
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: So that is that is very futuristic. That's what I

1389
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: thought it would be. But the kids, the kids loved it.

1390
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: It was sort of like almost be an inside of

1391
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: video game. You had to like, what, Greg, what would

1392
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: you when you emerge from this room that you know

1393
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: that looks like it could be just in West Los

1394
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: Angeles that behind you? Um, what what do you eat

1395
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: for breakfast? In Japan? Typically? What would be your good question?

1396
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: Pretty same stuff, cereal, same same stuff. Personally, if I

1397
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: went out, you know they eat a lot of fish

1398
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: for breakfast, but you know, at the house it's it's

1399
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna come back with some of your brand new

1400
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: job and issues when you love those Japanese sues. I mean,

1401
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: you can buy those states too, but yeah, I probably will.

1402
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: I will because the exchange rates looking good. I was

1403
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 1: talking to my Uh. I caught up with my cousin Mike,

1404
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: who you guys have met the Miami super Bowl Big Dog,

1405
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: and we got lunch and he had a He had

1406
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 1: a pair of those, and I was like, oh yeah, uh.

1407
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: He said like, oh yeah, you're your friend Greg. He

1408
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: he has those as well. I noticed him of the

1409
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: super Bowl and I told him I liked him, and

1410
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: I said, how did you know about them? The Ons?

1411
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounce it? Sure? I mean they're

1412
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: everywhere And he's like, well, actually, I they first got

1413
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: on my radar because it's the character played by Uma

1414
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: Thurman and kill Bill. That's what she and he liked

1415
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: them and he looked them up and sure enough they

1416
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 1: were affordable and uh plentiful in the mail category of

1417
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just giving out free ads all over

1418
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: the place. This and Ali Shore or what is the

1419
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: Steelers thing? I don't even know. We've already forget that

1420
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: they got there's anything else, Greg from Japan. Now, now

1421
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 1: we'll miss you. Uh, I think you're you're off the

1422
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: next uh, I will be we'll be back Thursday. I'll

1423
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: be taking the family to Yankee Stadium to see the

1424
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: Yankees play the Reds. So Chris Wesley always um, always near,

1425
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: even when it feels like he's far. So that will

1426
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: be nice. So while I'm at that game, you guys

1427
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: will knock out another pod and then we'll slowly start

1428
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: to ramp things up. Um. I think we'll maybe have

1429
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: one more two show week next week, and then I

1430
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: think we might be back on the three train. Uh

1431
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: the week after training camp start to get rolling in

1432
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: another season to come. So very exciting times. All right,

1433
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: and Mark, you take it easy over there. I will,

1434
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: but let's keep things under control. Also, they are under control.

1435
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if I suggested otherwise with my appearance today.

1436
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 1: They're very much under control. I believe there was a

1437
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: a throwaway comment connected to the hotels that you're visiting

1438
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 1: that suggested something was going on. And I just want

1439
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: you to pace yourself and we want you around for

1440
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: a long time. I will take that advice. I don't

1441
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't completely agree with the analysis that things are

1442
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: things are fine, They're mostly good, excellent, by all right,

1443
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: thank you to everybody. And I would say, Graver, please

1444
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: maybe long game that Guinness Book of World Record situation,

1445
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 1: because that would be pretty nice. That'd be pretty sweet

1446
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: what we've done today to somehow end up with a

1447
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: world record for podcasts. We've done so, We've achieved so

1448
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: much with this show to have that honor, to to

1449
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: set do something that no one else has ever done before.

1450
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: Just keep working behind the scenes on that, great digger.

1451
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that I thought that you're girlfriend was

1452
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: older than you. I'm sorry about that. All good. I

1453
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,799
Speaker 1: will follow up on the Guinness Book, and no problem

1454
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: on the other thing. All right, great, all right, thank

1455
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 1: you everybody for listening. We're glad to be back until Thursday,

1456
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: he'd the call m