1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: Man, I love the NFC South because I have no 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: idea who's good in the NFC South. If I was 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: ever going to take a head coaching job, it would 6 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: be in the NFC South because it feels like first 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: team to nine wins gets to win the division. The 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: Falcons come back and surprise the Buccaneers twenty nine to 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: twenty eight. Tampa is now seven and seven. They have 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: two games against the pesky Carolina Panthers coming up to 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: end their season. But wow, a fourteen point comeback in 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. Here's Baker Mayfield taking the blame. 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Disappointing obviously, but falls on my shoulders. Can't turn the 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: ball over, can't have that interception, got to hit mec 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: and stride on that third down. Listen, you can say 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: what you want about being up two scores and the 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: defense right there, but we have to be better on 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: offense and it comes down to how I play. 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 4: This one's gonna hnt me. 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: This falls on my shoulders. The NFL is offering yet 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: another reminder of why those early season proclamations those hot 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: takes age about as well as milk does. Let's go 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: back in September. All the Buccaneers there are force in 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: the NFC. You had analyst experts. They thought the Buccaneers 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: were going to rep the NFC in the Super Bowl. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield MVP buzzing. They were six and two, they 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: were ready to go. They had an offense, they had experience, 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: they have a gritty, gutty quarterback. Well, after going six 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: and two, they're now seven and seven, beaten up, inconsistent, 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: and searching for answers. How about the Colts. Let's go 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: back to September. Oh, they had a great start. Then 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: they had injuries, erratic play, and now they might have 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: a forty four year old former quarterback now current quarterback 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: playing against Seattle. Eight and five suddenly find themselves staring 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: up in their own division, a reminder that momentous to 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: him is the NFL's most fickle currency. And then you 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: have the Texans left for dead at three and five. 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: They've won five in a row. H that's the league 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: in a nutshell right there. The beginning rarely matches the ending. 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: In this year's plot, twist is arriving right on schedule. Yes, Todd, 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: we wasn't that the. 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 5: Colt team that kept scoring constantly and never punted for 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: like three straight weeks. 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: Now that, yeah, it was long ago. That's why everybody 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: wants to have a hot take. You got to get 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: it out there. In September October, there's an ebb and flow. 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: There's a roller coaster ride for just about every team. 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: You know, the Patriots they have two losses. Do you 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: know one of those losses was to the Raiders, once 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: again trying to figure this out. And that's one of 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: those where you go, man, the Raiders might be a 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: little bit better than we thought. Oh, Patriots aren't gonna 53 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: be as good as we thought. It's reactionary. It's week 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 2: to week, and you get some of these teams that 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: figure it out. They get healthy. And I thought Tampa 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: Bay getting Mike Evans back, they got Bucky Irvin back. Okay, 57 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: you should win this game. But in the NFC South, 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: and I say this every single year, it's the team 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: that shouldn't win a game wins the game. It's like 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: the Saints against the Buccaneers last week. I said they 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: shouldn't win, but they will. The Falcons they shouldn't win, 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: but they will. And then you look at the Falcons. 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: The Falcons are really the poster children of what could 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: be and what really is. Whenever you watch them, you 65 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: go Kyle Pitts, God, why can't he do this all 66 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: the time? By Jon Robinson, why can't he do this 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: all the time? Because then you watch them, they give 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: and then they take it the way Kyle Pitts injured 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: or doesn't play that well Bjeon Robinson fumbles, you got 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: the Michael Pennock situation. Now kirkde Cousins comes in and 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: he played pretty well last night, certainly in the first half. 72 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: But you look at the Falcons are all going to 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: be a mystery to me because it feels like every year, 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: I feel like, man, this could be the year, and 75 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: this could be the year. They're kind of like my 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: South version of the Chargers, like this could be although 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: the Chargers have been better than the Falcons, but I 78 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: hold out hope that maybe this is the year. And 79 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: then you realize it's not the year, and it's not 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: revisionist history when you look at the Falcons with the 81 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: Michael Pennox draft pick, because you had a guy who 82 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: got banged up when he was at Indiana and then 83 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: he went to Washington and he played really well and 84 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: you're playing in the playoffs, and the Falcons decide, hey, 85 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: we brought in Kirk Cousins and we spent over one 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars guaranteed, we can't pass up on this guy. 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: It's rare when you have a quarterback where you go, 88 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: I can't pass up on this guy. Because every year 89 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 2: we're seeing more and more quarterbacks that we go, oh 90 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: Man Mendoza, right, I can't pass up on him. Dante 91 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Moore can't pass up on him. Well, you can. You 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: just got to make sure you get the right quarterback 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: at the right time and you don't spend a lot 94 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 2: of draft capital to get him. But I'm still puzzled 95 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: by the Michael Pennox and maybe maybe he turns out 96 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: to be a quality quarterback. He's not better than Kirk Cousins, 97 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 2: but he is your future. But he's not even able 98 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: to play, and Cousins, I think, is under contract for 99 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: one more year. I just that one felt like, oh 100 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: my god, he's still on the board, let's take him. 101 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: And that's what makes the Falcons puzzling, still waiting for 102 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: them to maybe get a really, really good defensive player 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: because it seems like, what is it John Abraham? Is 104 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: that the last great defensive player that I know? Because 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: I always go, man, they could use a couple of 106 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: really good defensive players. But the offense last night, you 107 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: come back from fourteen down, you end up winning it 108 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: at the buzzer. I'll give credit, you know, to the 109 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: Falcons there, but I got to give a lot of 110 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: blame to the Buccaneers. You're at home? What are you doing? 111 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: Come on? Yeah, Marvin, that John Abraham reference was great. 112 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: That was better than mine. I was gonna say Cornelia's Bennett? 113 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: Okay? I mean, was that Corney Bennett after the Colts 114 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: or after the Bills? Oh? Bills? Didn't he go Bills 115 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: and Colts? 116 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 117 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: He lost five Super Bowls? Has he lost more Super 118 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: Bowls than anybody? Wow? 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: Well, I think so. 120 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: I didn't think we were going to talk about the 121 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: former Alabama linebacker Cornelius Bennett. Sorry cornelis Yeah? 122 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: All right? 123 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three DP show operators sitting by. We'll 124 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: come up with the poll question here Army Navy on Saturday, 125 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: and Navy is favored I think by six and a half. 126 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: There is no updates here on Sharon Moore he's going 127 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: to be in court today, but you're starting to hear 128 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 2: dribs and drabs, And I want to be fair to 129 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: the story because it's obviously very serious and it feels 130 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: like there is some reporting, but there's a lot of 131 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: it is just sort of salacious stuff, So I want 132 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: to be fair. I want to be careful with this. Also, 133 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: no decision on Philip Rivers' status. This is wishful reporting, right, 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: this is prime wishful reporting because nobody has anything that's definitive. 135 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: But you'll get the following. You know, Philip Rivers is 136 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: trending to start against Seattle. What does that mean? Is 137 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: that a report? Then that's he's going to start, barring 138 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: any setback. He's starting, feels now. I would love for 139 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: him to start. I'd love for him to play, you know, 140 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: no matter what happens, and good or bad, it's an 141 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: interesting story. It's a story in a game that I 142 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: wouldn't normally care about, and now I do. Like shud 143 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: Or Sanders playing against the Bears in Chicago, against Caleb Williams, 144 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett trying to you know, chase down the sacrec 145 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to care about that game. A 146 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: little bit more this time of the year, you're looking for. 147 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: There was no reason to watch last night. I mean 148 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: it was a standalone game. It's the NFL, and you 149 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: might have fantasy or betting on the game, but you 150 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: didn't tune in to go, well, this is going to 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: be a great You probably thought, all right, Tampa's gonna 152 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: win it twenty seven to seventeen, and then all right, 153 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: we'll move on, and then all of a sudden you 154 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: get a great fourth quarter. It becomes must see TV. 155 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm always looking for what is the game or games 156 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: that I'm interested coming up this weekend? And sometimes that's 157 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: really hard. You know, Bill's and the Patriots awesome, Jets 158 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: and Jags. No, I'm unless the Jets play well here, 159 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 2: which maybe they do. They're thirteen and a half point underdogs, 160 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: Browns Bears. You know, the Ravens and the Bengals. The 161 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: Ravens are favored in Cincinnati after Cincinnati beat the Ravens 162 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: in Baltimore, Cardinals and the Texans know, Chargers, Chiefs. Yes, 163 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: the Raiders against the Eagles. Can you imagine if the 164 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Eagles would lose that game? Now you can't say no chance. 165 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: I mean the Raiders have one, well, they have two players, 166 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: Max Crosby and Rock Bowers's that's it right now. Oh 167 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: my god, the sky would be falling if but it 168 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: already feels like it's falling in Philadelphia. Here it's falling 169 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: on the shoulders of Jalen Hurts. Here is the Eagles 170 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: quarterback on bouncing back. 171 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 6: Success or greatness, those things aren't in near. You have 172 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 6: your ups, you have your downs. With Sabay, you respond 173 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 6: to it, and I think about think about that. I mean, 174 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 6: it's nothing new that I haven't faced before. Some matter 175 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 6: of responding to it, and I got a lot of 176 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: confidence how we respond. I've got a lot of confidence 177 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 6: how we go. 178 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: Okay, it feels like everybody wants to blame somebody, and 179 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: I think there's blame to go around here. But I 180 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: can't have all of this fall on jail. Jalen Hurts 181 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: is the quarterback that I think we think he is. 182 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: During the regular season, put him in a big game. 183 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: He's been very good. He's been great. So I can't 184 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: go what the defense is figured out to allow him 185 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: to throw the ball more and they can't run the football. Okay, 186 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: it's that simple. Jalen Hurts is not going to beat 187 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: you from the pocket too many times if he's throwing 188 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: the ball over thirty times forty times. I got to 189 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: look at the coach, an offensive coordinator, the scheme of 190 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: what you're doing. Now, you have a luxury. They had 191 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: a luxury of a great offensive line. They could run 192 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: the football. Running the football sets up play action. You've 193 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: got two really good receivers, You've got a really good 194 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: tight end, and you even have a running back who 195 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: can catch the ball out of the backfield. So something 196 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: is missing there. And I would start with the offensive line, 197 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: but to put this on Jalen Hurts And all of 198 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: a sudden, go, coach, you thought about benching Jalen Hurts 199 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: and putting in Tanner McGee or McKee, doesn't matter, Like, 200 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: what are we doing? Where else would this happen? Somebody 201 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: has a couple of Super Bowl appearances, wins the Super 202 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: Bowl as an MVP, and then all of a sudden, 203 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: you go, are you thinking of uh benching Patrick mahomes? Hey, 204 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: Now this happened with Tom Brady. This I might have 205 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: been twenty fifteen. 206 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 7: You mean the year of falling off the cliff. 207 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, might have been the Max Kellerman Tom Brady falling 208 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: off the cliff. But somebody asked Belichick if he thought 209 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: about benching Brady and then putting in Jimmy Garoppolo. Uh, 210 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: I guess you have to ask the question. But I 211 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: mean I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend doing that. But that 212 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: seems like, are you really giving this great thought that 213 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: you're going to put in Tanner McKee over Jalen Hurts. Oh, 214 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: maybe you sit him down and let him what? Let 215 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: him what? Watch Tanner play? 216 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 8: Yeah, the media replaced Tom Brady with seven different quarterbacks. 217 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 8: There was no more popular topic than going from the 218 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 8: hunky Tom Brady that to the hunky Jimmy Garoppolo. It 219 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 8: was like the most obvious switch in the world. Everybody 220 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 8: wanted that to happen. Yeah, probably except for Patriots fans. 221 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: Some of the other games Titans Niners, No, you know, Panthers, Saints. 222 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: Here we go NFC South Saints at home, Rams Lions. 223 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: That's juicy. Vikings Cowboys is interesting because we're still trying 224 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: to figure out where these teams are going to be 225 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: headed for next year. Seems like the Cowboys are in 226 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: a pretty good position here and the Vikings let me 227 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: see JJ McCarthy do it back to back weeks, the 228 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: Dolphins at the Steelers, the JJ Watt situation. JJ Watt 229 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: goes in for t J Watt goes in for treatment 230 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: and next thing you know, he's in the hospital because 231 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: he's got something going on with his lung and he 232 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: didn't go in for treatment for something in his lungs. 233 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: I have no update on that. I haven't seen anything, 234 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: but that's kind of strange. Was it a Tyrod Taylor? 235 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: Didn't he get a punctured lung? He got a shot 236 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 2: before a game, and then Justin Herbert had to come 237 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: in and play and never look back. Yes, Tom's like 238 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 2: the twelfth Man. 239 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 7: Your own doctor is going against the other team and 240 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 7: your own medicals. 241 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: Then allegedly Todd if that. 242 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 7: But it is a lung shot that he's gonna be 243 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 7: able to play. That's a nice start. 244 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 5: It's insensitive, though. 245 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: I was gonna throw in a Jethrow Tall aquaalung, but 246 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: you know that probably bench running down his nose. Jethrow 247 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: Tall did have a couple of bangers, as we like 248 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: to say, there were a couple of albums, rare flute 249 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: laden banger in Tights there's not. There's not often. 250 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, that you can see the little Robin Hood dude 251 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 8: comes out like I know. 252 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: I do this, you know, it's like Peter Pan. He 253 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: comes out swirling out into the middle of the stage 254 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: of this flute. Yeah, mosh pit. I never saw Jethroe. 255 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: They're still touring. I think I never saw Jethrow Tall. 256 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: Didn't they give us thick as a brick and Aqualung 257 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: That are two of the two of the great albums 258 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: rock albums of all time. 259 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 7: Yes, when I was a kid and I heard about 260 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 7: Jethrow Tall. 261 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: They running down his nose. 262 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 7: They would say, like they're on tour. 263 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: He's on tour. 264 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 7: I always thought jeth Otall. It sounds like eleven with 265 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 7: a person. 266 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: No, because it's Ian Anderson. Is Jethrow Tall? 267 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 7: Very confusing? 268 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the band is Jethrow Tall. Okay, it's a Friday. 269 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 270 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 271 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports 272 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be a 273 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: part of it. 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Okay, sell me 287 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: on this matchup here, Ross. 288 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, welcome to my lovely hotel room 289 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 5: in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm about to go to production meetings 290 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: and Dan. I don't know what they're doing these days, 291 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: but the desk is so small I can't put the 292 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 5: microphone on the desk, so I'm holding it here like 293 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: I'm a Bob Barker something. 294 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: It looks like you're doing stand up here. 295 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 5: Like Fritzy. Maybe I'll tell you on the matchup. I 296 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 5: got two things for you. Number one is the Jacksonville 297 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 5: Jaguars are good. The Jacksonville Jaguars are legitimately good and 298 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: in fact their first place in the AFC South. But 299 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 5: nobody's talking about them. I mean, everybody's talking about the 300 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: tech and their defense and all these games they've won 301 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 5: in a row, and everyone's talking about Philip Rivers and 302 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 5: the Colts. The Jaguars are just down here in Northeast Florida, 303 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 5: just winning games, winning a bunch of games in a row, 304 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 5: playing really well on both sides of the ball. They 305 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 5: got a great chance to win double digit games for 306 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 5: the first time since twenty seventeen. They have a legit 307 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 5: good squad, So that's number one. And they took it 308 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 5: to the Colts last week. From the Jets perspective, man, 309 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 5: it was bad last week against the Dolphins. It looks 310 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: like Brady Cook, the undrafted rookie free agent, is gonna 311 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 5: get his first NFL start, which I love, Dan, I 312 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 5: love you know. There's not that many people in the 313 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 5: history of the world that can say they start an 314 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 5: NFL game. I like he's getting this opportunity. Who knows. 315 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: Maybe he's awesome, Maybe he plays great for my sake 316 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 5: calling the game, I hope he plays great. I'm looking 317 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 5: forward to meeting him tomorrow. 318 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: Okay, are you looking forward to that more than you are? 319 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers? Maybe playing against Seattle? 320 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: Yes, because that's the game I'm doing. Ok Yes, but 321 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 5: no I am. I mean, like everybody else fascinated by 322 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 5: the Philip Rivers thing. You know, a lot of teams 323 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 5: Dan over the years have reached out to me to 324 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: come out of retirement. But I just didn't think it 325 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 5: was fair to my wife and daughters to reset my 326 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame clock. Oh you know. I mean they've 327 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 5: been waiting seventeen years already, and so for me to 328 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 5: come out of retirement at forty six and have to 329 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 5: make them wait five more years for me to be eligible. 330 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 5: I mean twenty two years is asking a lot of 331 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 5: my family and friends to wait for my Hall of 332 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 5: Fame induction. 333 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's what makes you Father of the Year unbelievable. 334 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: Why do you offensive Lineman go sleeveless in cold weather. 335 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 5: It's a mindset thing, It's a mentality thing. Sleeves are soft. 336 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 5: There's no other way around it. You are sending a 337 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 5: mess to the other team that you are soft, that 338 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 5: you're not tough enough if you wear sleeves. I played 339 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 5: in Buffalo a bunch of games, played New England. 340 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 4: A little bit. 341 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 5: You absolutely positively cannot wear sleeves. Plus, by the way, 342 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 5: it does give them something to grab. And if you're 343 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 5: really that worried about the cold, you can put a 344 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 5: thin layer of asaline on your skin, which, by the way, 345 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 5: does help protect your skin. You know, ironically, Dan, this 346 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 5: is the truth. Okay, the coldest game I ever played, 347 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 5: and I believe it's one of the five coldest game 348 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 5: in games in Bill's history. You're gonna appreciate this. It 349 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 5: was at Cincinnati. It was at the Bengals. I had 350 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 5: no way. It was two thousand and four. Look it up. 351 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 5: I had no idea it got that cold in Cincinnati. 352 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: I come out before the game and Chad Ocho Cinco 353 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 5: is like, hey, buddy, you better put a long sleeve 354 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 5: shirt on because I was sleeveless. It was freezing. Here's 355 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 5: how cold it was, Dan. After that game, you couldn't 356 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: take a hot shower to start because it stung your wind. 357 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 5: Burnt skin that bad. You started with a cold shower, 358 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 5: then you worked your way up to like lukewarm, and 359 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 5: then you got to a little bit warm. Otherwise I 360 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: don't understand the science, but the hot water on your 361 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 5: frost bit wind burnt skin, it was like it would 362 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: sting unbelievably painfully. 363 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: My takeaway from that story is Ocho Cinco didn't know 364 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: your name. 365 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 5: That's that's probably factual. Yeah, yes, do you think Ocho 366 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 5: Cinco knew a lot of the starting with guards? Now, hey, 367 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: guess what, Ocho Cinco? We won, you lost, So maybe 368 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 5: you should have known my. 369 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: Name, don't you know? Didn't you know that the coldest 370 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: game in any right now? 371 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 5: Chargers Chargers playoff game, Dan Fouts, I know, Okay, I 372 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: still wasn't thinking that when you come down from Buffalo. 373 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: This Cincinnati is like northern Kentucky, I mean Cincinnati, like 374 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: people have a fake Southern accent some of them. 375 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: Okay, but is Buffalo really cold or does Buffalo just 376 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: have a lot of snow? 377 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 5: Both and Buffalo has a lot of wind. There was 378 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: a game, Dan, I'm not kidding you where our kicker 379 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 5: was Ryan Lindell, And I'm on the field goal extra 380 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: point team. And let's say it was like a thirty 381 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: eight yarder. He kicked the ball. It probably got to 382 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 5: like the goal line, and then there was a huge 383 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: gust of wind. It blew back like a boomerang and 384 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 5: landed three feet from my feet, and the refs were 385 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 5: still underneath the goalpost going no good, like, yeah, no kidding, buddy, 386 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 5: it almost hit me, No kidding, It was no good. 387 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: How do you explain the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 388 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 5: Wow, that was that was rough. You know, I've never 389 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 5: seen so many things that happened. Last night a team 390 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 5: had nineteen penalties and they won the game. You know, 391 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: the Bucks are up by two touchdowns late. It feels 392 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 5: like they're finally gonna break out of this funk. You know, 393 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: it makes these two. 394 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: The penalties were declined. I think the NFL record is 395 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: twenty three penalties, so they were called for twenty two, 396 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: but three of them declined. 397 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 5: Unbelievable. And then Kyle Pitts, who hasn't done this in years. 398 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 5: They have no Drake Lundon. Kyle Pitts, All of a sudden, 399 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 5: the guy you should be most worried about, I guess 400 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 5: he comes out lights him up. Kirk Cousins for some reason, 401 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 5: has Todd Bowle's number just a devastating loss for the 402 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 5: Bucks the only saving grace and it doesn't make him 403 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 5: feel better about it right now. But they play the 404 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 5: Panthers two out of the last three weeks. You know, 405 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 5: if they beat the Panthers head to head in both 406 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 5: those games, they're still gonna win the division. And last night, 407 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 5: I guess becomes irrelevant. 408 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but is there a bigger picture here that maybe 409 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: you do sneak in because it's the NFC South, But 410 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: moving forward, how long is Mike Evans going to be 411 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 2: able to play? Is Todd Bowle's job safe even if 412 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: you make the playoffs. 413 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 5: Well, people are gonna ask that anytime there's a collapse 414 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 5: like this, and I think, big picture, it's hard to 415 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: picture the Bucks having any chance whatsoever in the playoffs. 416 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 5: You know, I would have said earlier in the season, Hey, Dan, 417 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 5: they got Baker, they got those receivers, they got a 418 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 5: puncher's chance. You know, they can win shootouts. They're not 419 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 5: really playing that way. Baker's not playing as well as 420 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: he did earlier in the year. Even as they're getting 421 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 5: guys back to health, they don't look quite the same 422 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the ball, and they're light 423 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 5: years worse than like the Rams and Seahawks. I mean 424 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 5: to me, those are easily the two best teams in 425 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 5: the NFL right now, and it's right now hard to 426 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 5: picture anybody from the NFC, you know, knocking those two 427 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 5: teams off. I guess the Eagles have the talent to 428 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 5: do it, but certainly they're going to have to play 429 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 5: a lot better than they have been to have a 430 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 5: chance against those two teams. 431 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: Talking to Ross Tucker and the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, 432 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: and he'll be in the booth for the Jets and Jags. 433 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: That'll be Sunday on CBS at one eastern. You know, 434 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: the finger pointing, maybe it's time to sit down, Jalen 435 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: Hurts and still not sure. Was that a fair question 436 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: to ask, Nick Sirianni, have you thought about benching Jalen Hurts? 437 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 5: I think it is a fair question to ask, and 438 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: I think it's fair to answer it the way Siriani? 439 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 5: Did you know? The thing about Philadelphia is there's not 440 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 5: only a very high standard, but there's a track record 441 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 5: of backup quarterbacks playing really well. You know, the first 442 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 5: time they ever won a super Bowl was their backup quarterback. 443 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: Now that was because Carson Wentz got hurt. But Nick 444 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 5: Foles went in there and led them to the super Bowl. 445 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 5: So I think there are going to be people there 446 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 5: that have said, Okay, it's been four or five games 447 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 5: now for Hurts where he hasn't played well. Tanner McKee 448 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 5: has lit it up every time he's got an opportunity. 449 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 5: This is the window for the Eagles. This is where 450 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 5: they have the great receivers, the great tight end, the 451 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 5: great running back, the awesome defense, the offensive line. This 452 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 5: is the window, and maybe McKee gives him a better 453 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 5: chance to win. I don't believe that. I highly doubt 454 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 5: they would bench Jalen Hurts for a million different reasons. 455 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 5: But I do think you know, if Hurts has two 456 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 5: more games in a row where he has five turnovers, 457 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 5: you know, then it might be a more legitimate question. 458 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 5: I don't think that's gonna happen. He typically doesn't turn 459 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 5: it over. And I had a much different takeaway Dan 460 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 5: from that game Monday night to everybody else. I mean, 461 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 5: Hurts had five turnovers. AJ Brown had two or three drops. 462 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 5: They had a couple of devastating penalties, one took a 463 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 5: touchdown off the board, Jake Elliott misses a forty eight 464 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: yard field goal. If any one of those things doesn't happen, 465 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 5: they still win the game. So they would have won 466 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 5: a game at the LA Chargers, a good team with 467 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 5: a quarterback having four turnovers. You know, they moved it better. 468 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 5: Hurts through for two forty could have been three hundred. 469 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 5: Saquan ran for one to twenty. I actually came away 470 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 5: from that game better than I did against the Bears 471 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 5: and the Cowboys when for six quarters they couldn't do 472 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 5: anything offensively. You know, turnovers are high variants, They're not 473 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 5: gonna happen all the time. Just not being able to 474 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 5: move the ball at all, because you can't do anything 475 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 5: on offense, that would be more concern to me than 476 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 5: sort of a flute game where the quarterback has a 477 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 5: bunch of turnovers. 478 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: More important game Lions Rams, Packers, Broncos, Patriots, Bills. 479 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 5: So the most important of those three games in terms 480 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 5: of a team making the playoffs is Lions Rams. The 481 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 5: Lions really need to win that game to make the 482 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 5: playoffs and have a chance. I think in terms of 483 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, I'll say probably the Patriots and the 484 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 5: You know, if the Patriots win that, man, they got 485 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 5: a great chance to be the number one seed. Two 486 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 5: home games in New England. And I'll tell you the 487 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 5: difference in my mind, Dan, between the Broncos and the Patriots. 488 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 5: The Broncos are a good team, winning close games, really 489 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 5: good defense. The Patriots have an MVP caliber quarterback. You know, 490 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: he hasn't done it in the postseason yet, But if 491 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 5: you're talking about winning big games in the postseason, I 492 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 5: don't have a lot of doubt about Drake May right now. 493 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 5: And I think they would be the favorite in my 494 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 5: mind if they're the number one seed for just Drake 495 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 5: May to play well in two home playoff games go 496 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl. Now, if they lose this one 497 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 5: to the Bills, then it's going to be a battle 498 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 5: just to win the AFC East, and that's gonna leave 499 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: some doubt about whether or not Drake May and the 500 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 5: Patriots are ready to beat these type of teams in 501 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 5: the postseason. 502 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: Well, Vegas is already saying that they doubt the Patriots 503 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: and they out the Broncos. Yeah, because Buffalo Road team favored, 504 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: Packers road team favored. 505 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 5: And I think so much of that is just the quarterback. 506 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 5: And because the Broncos and Patriots have no recent playoff pedigree. 507 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 5: You know, I always wonder about stuff like that. Dan 508 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 5: is like, how much of that is the pros, you know, 509 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 5: the guys like Steve Ezick on my even Money betting podcast, 510 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 5: And how much of that is just the public saying 511 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 5: I don't care what I'm taking Jordan Love and the 512 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 5: Packers over bow Knicks and the Broncos, or I don't 513 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 5: care what their record is, I'm taking Josh Allen and 514 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 5: the Bills over Drake May. I think if you look 515 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 5: at it, people talk about public and non public teams. 516 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 5: When I look at the betting line, a lot of times, 517 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: it feels like people are just betting on quarterbacks. I mean, 518 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 5: the Chiefs are last I checked, five and a half 519 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 5: point favorites over the Chargers. Despite all evidence to the contrary, 520 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 5: people are still gonna put the money on Patrick Mahomes 521 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 5: and the Chiefs. 522 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: I would too, bet You're right, there's only a couple 523 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: of quarterbacks. And speaking of quarterbacks, Joe Burrow got dark 524 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: on a Wednesday with that press conference and what he 525 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: was saying, and I brought it up in the moment 526 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: it felt like you get to that Andrew Luck. And 527 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: Andrew Luck was twenty nine. Joe Burrow just turned twenty nine, 528 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, what you've done for most 529 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: of your life you're not enjoying anymore. And do I 530 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: want to continue to do this and all the injuries 531 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: and the rehab and you know, not being in big 532 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: games anymore? What do you take away from that in 533 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: the moment, something or something larger? 534 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: Multiple things. I would say number one is Joe Burrow 535 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 5: has always struck me as a guy that absolutely loves football, 536 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: like loves it. So it's a little bit startling to 537 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 5: hear him talk like that. And I would say, unexpect 538 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 5: did you know? I will say it's Rehabbing is not 539 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: fun and losing is not fun. So I do think 540 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: that there's a point where you say, Okay, I'm getting 541 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 5: the crap beat out of me. I've already made plenty 542 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 5: of money, we're losing. I don't want to have injuries 543 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 5: that really adversely affect the rest of my life. Those 544 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 5: are all possibilities, Dan I tend to think that Burrow 545 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 5: would want to go somewhere else or force his way 546 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: out of Cincinnati before he would retire. Now, that's a 547 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 5: tough organization to force your way out of. Obviously, we've 548 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: seen it happen before with Carson Palmer, and maybe he's 549 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 5: just mentally beat down. But I think the Andrew Luck 550 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 5: thing was more of this physical and mental exhaustion. I 551 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 5: don't get the sense that Burrow's there yet. I think 552 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 5: he'd probably rather go somewhere else and see what it's 553 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 5: like somewhere else before he would hang him up. 554 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: He loves football because he back, he rehabbed to get 555 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: back to this point in the season. Yeah, that tells 556 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: you an awful lot about him. But then that, you know, 557 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: contrasts that with the way he sounded on Wednesday. That 558 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: sound like somebody who was beaten and broken. And you know, 559 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: if they win that game against Buffalo, is he having 560 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: fun still? It was you throw two interceptions and you 561 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: lose in Buffalo and what am I doing here? 562 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 5: Every aspect of it was strange. Maybe he's just having 563 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 5: a bad day. I mean, someone asked if it was 564 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 5: team related to personal He said all the above. You know, 565 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 5: you never know what's going on with guys, you know, 566 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 5: behind the scenes or personal or whatever. It's hard to 567 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 5: extrapolate too much from it unless he actually spells it out, 568 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 5: and maybe there will be reports after the season that 569 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 5: he's unhappy looking to move. It's funny because one of 570 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 5: the first things I read prepping for you know, this 571 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 5: game on Sunday was the Jets should do whatever they 572 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 5: can to call the Bengals and try to trade for 573 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, you know, and by the way, they absolutely should. 574 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 5: I mean they should call the Bengals and say, hey, 575 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 5: is he really that a man? 576 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: Wait, Joe Burrow feels bad enough, that's not that's not fairer, 577 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: And you can't go, Hey, I got good news. We're 578 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: gonna send you to the Jets. Do you love football 579 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: now a little bit more? 580 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 5: Hey? Maybe he could be the one to break this 581 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 5: out of this playoff street for the Jets. 582 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: He'll be in the booth for the Jets and Jags. 583 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: Make sure you tune in early because we want to 584 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: see you when you welcome us into the game, right, 585 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: you get your camera time. 586 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 5: That's a terrific point. Dan. For one o'clock games, we 587 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 5: do our on camera open at twelve fifty three, yep, 588 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 5: and then there's like a commercial and then so I 589 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 5: just don't. I know everybody right now is putting the 590 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 5: note in their phone at one o'clock to see me 591 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 5: on TV. Put it in for twelve fifty My mom 592 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 5: and or wife are devastated when they forget about that. 593 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 5: They literally, Dan only watched the first two minutes of 594 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 5: the game to see me on camera. You did a 595 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 5: great job. The game didn't start yet, That's all. 596 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be watching as well, just to let you know. 597 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 5: Listen, I need to talk to the folks at CBS 598 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 5: and the analytics folks. I'm thinking that the ratings, Oh yeah, 599 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 5: for that two minutes when I'm on camera, tell fifty 600 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 5: three to twelve fifty five. I mean, that's probably why 601 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: they put me on the New York market this week. 602 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're meat Candy. I mean you're there. Everybody. Everybody 603 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: wants to see you. Thanks for joining us, Bud, have 604 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: a great weekend, of course, man Cia. That's Ross Tucker. 605 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 606 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 607 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 608 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: listen live. Shaquille O'Neil The Shack Funhouse that'll be at 609 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: the big Game in San Francisco, and you can get 610 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: tickets beginning to at ten am Pacific at Shack's Funhouse 611 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: dot com. Good to see you again. Did LSU ever 612 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: try to get you to play football when you were there? 613 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 9: No, they did not. I wanted to because you know, 614 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 9: you know the story. You got the story. I started 615 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 9: off as a football player. I was a tight end 616 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 9: and nosegard. I actually loved football because I love inflicting 617 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 9: pain on people. 618 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: Who was the coach there? Mike Archer? Was he the 619 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 2: coach when you were there? 620 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 9: I think it was, yeah, Mike Archer. But they had 621 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 9: a player who actually taught me how to be a superstar. 622 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 9: His name was Tommy Hutson. And you know Tommy Hodson 623 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 9: for Heisman. He didn't end up winning a Heisman Trophy, 624 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 9: but he was like he was like he was like 625 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 9: everything on campus. And I just saw how nice he 626 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 9: was to people and how respectful he was and how 627 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 9: much respect he got. So I know he's watching the show. 628 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 9: So Tommy Hodson, I. 629 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 4: Love your brother. 630 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 2: It was his number fifteen. 631 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: I don't remember fifteen or eighteen. 632 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: For some reason, I remember him. 633 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, I remember, he's like a he's like a gorgeous 634 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 9: Tom Brady. Tom Brady's hot? 635 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 2: Are you you're all in on Lane Kiffing? You feel 636 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: good about your head coach? 637 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 9: Now, of course I do. Whoever you know they decided 638 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 9: to pick. You know, Lane Kiffin is a great one. 639 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 9: He's going to be making a lot of money and 640 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 9: I know he's going to be bringing in some heavy recruits. 641 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 9: It's time for LSU to get back on track, like 642 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 9: the like the uh. I think it's The interim athletic 643 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 9: director of Verge Olsbury said, LSU was all about winning championships. 644 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 9: That's all we wanted to do. 645 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: I'm curious nowadays, if you were at LSU, you'd be 646 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: a one and done, but you stayed three years, I wouldn't. 647 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be one of done. 648 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 5: You would not. 649 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 4: No, you know why. 650 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 9: Because with this nil stuff, I would definitely be at 651 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 9: the top of the list, right and I would milk that. 652 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 9: And if you're a top in al guy, I think 653 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 9: you can make more than what these rookies are making 654 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 9: on that contract. But again, college is all about education, 655 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 9: so I would try to get as much education when 656 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 9: it comes to business as I can. So let's just 657 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 9: say I'm making eight nine to ten million dollars a 658 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 9: year for being iil deals. I'm gonna stay. That's thirty 659 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 9: million right there. I'm gonna have thirty million in the 660 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 9: bank and I'm gonna have the knowledge of what to 661 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,240 Speaker 9: do with with this thirty million. I'm'na have business acumen, 662 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 9: and I'm gonna know everything about the NBA, and I'm 663 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 9: gonna be very fundamentally sound. I would never be oneer done. 664 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 9: I would actually take advantage of the educational system. Everybody 665 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 9: always talks about money. But if you're getting nil money, well, 666 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 9: I go to the NBA and become a professional, and 667 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 9: then you know, get money, get less money. 668 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 4: Who knows? 669 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: Why haven't you bought a professional sports team yet? 670 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 4: I'm working on a brother, what. 671 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 2: I what sport? 672 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 4: NBA? 673 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 2: Okay, in a. 674 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 9: Perfect world, I would love to be out of the 675 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 9: Orlando Magic or the Miami Heat. 676 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: In a perfect world, what. 677 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: Do you think that that would you would want to 678 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 2: be the sole owner or just buy into it? 679 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 680 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 9: No, never the so just you know, limited partner. No, 681 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 9: I would love to have that conversation. 682 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 2: A couple of random questions here the All Star format? 683 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: What do you think. 684 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 9: I haven't I haven't been paying attention to it, Daniel 685 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 9: Eugene Patrick. 686 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: And okay, but if you have the world against the 687 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 2: United States, I like it. 688 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 4: I like it. 689 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 9: I like it, and I think they should add a 690 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 9: big monetary reward. 691 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 4: At the end. 692 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be fine with that. I just want I 693 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: want to know if the guys want to play, they 694 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: want to compete, and if they don't, then they should 695 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: not try to fool us. But I think the you know, 696 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 2: non Americans, European players are going to be playing for 697 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 2: pride as well to say, are bad what the five 698 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: best players in the sport are from outside the United 699 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 2: States right now? 700 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: And I agree with you. 701 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 9: And if I was in charge, I wouldn't make it 702 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 9: to where they would would definitely have to compete. I 703 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 9: put a two million prizes at the end. The loser 704 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 9: gets nothing and a big old trophy and big old 705 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 9: rings and brag rights. He ain't saying that the best 706 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 9: in the world. You want the Americans in the best 707 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 9: in the world of not prove it here doing All 708 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 9: Star Weekend. If I was in charge, I would have 709 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 9: this game cracking. 710 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: Give me the game plan against Joker if you played 711 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: against him. 712 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 9: Every time he shot a three run by him post 713 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 9: up in the lane, have him and his whole team 714 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 9: complain about three seconds. I wasn't a pick and roll 715 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 9: the defender, so he would definitely get open off the 716 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 9: pick and roll because Jamal Murray coming off the pick 717 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 9: and roll, I would have to help defishing those guys 718 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 9: and they throw back to him. He will probably get 719 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 9: every shot he won. Now, the question is is he 720 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 9: going to guard me one on one or are they 721 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 9: going to double down with Aaron Gordon? But every time 722 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 9: he shot of three, hopefully he missed, I'm just gonna 723 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 9: run right by him and now, and you know my 724 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 9: game plan would be to win to jump ball and 725 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 9: try to get him to two quick to two quick fouls. 726 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 9: But again I'm a not a good pick and roll defender. 727 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 9: So he'll definitely get his shot. He'll definitely get his points. 728 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 9: But the question is what are you gonna do with 729 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 9: me on the other end? 730 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: Well, the same thing with Wemby. What would be your 731 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: game plan with Wenby? Uh? 732 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 9: You have to uh back him under the rim and 733 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 9: just throw it down in his face. To jump hooks 734 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 9: is not It's similar to the kimback jump hooks And 735 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 9: ya mean the little jump hooks, a little cute sea 736 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 9: food see move by the basket. It was not gonna work. 737 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 9: You have to dunk on him and try to, you know, 738 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 9: intimidated him. He is much lighter than I, so I 739 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 9: know I can get to my spot and turn with 740 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 9: the elbows up and get him off bounced a little bit, 741 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 9: and then try to quick knunck him. But on the 742 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 9: other end, I probably have no answer for him because 743 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 9: I'm not known for defense, so I don't know what 744 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 9: people always try to make details. I'm not known for 745 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 9: for stopping people, and guess what, people are not known 746 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 9: for stopping me either. Games like that. When I played 747 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 9: against great bigs, it was all about that rhythm. So 748 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 9: I remember early against Dave Robinson always being foul trouble 749 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 9: with the same day with Patrick Ewan. So I would 750 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 9: try to get those guys in foul trouble, but it 751 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 9: will definitely be an exciting game. 752 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: Why do you only have one m v P. 753 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. 754 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 9: I have no idea. Like I I argue with Charles 755 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 9: all the time. What's the criteria? You know when you 756 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 9: say most valuable player? I always thought it as an individual, 757 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 9: as a single player, you know, is it built on 758 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 9: teams success. I don't like we needed we need a 759 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 9: national m v P NBA criteria on when it takes 760 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 9: to be. 761 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: M v P. 762 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 9: So there's no questions asked at the end, like, oh, 763 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 9: he should have got he should have got it. Well, 764 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 9: this guy meets all the criteria, whatever the criteria to 765 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 9: become a VP. 766 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: Does the m v P ever come up in conversation 767 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 2: when you're around Steve Nash? 768 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 4: No, not at all. 769 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 2: Is that a good thing? 770 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 4: Listen, listen, Steve was a fun player. He was a 771 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 4: great player. 772 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 9: And you know, in this and and in this thing 773 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 9: that we have, and you know you're part of this thing, 774 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 9: certain things happened. So they said, whoever they may be, 775 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 9: that he was two time MVP, O for me to 776 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 9: accept that lip withd it, you know, I you know, 777 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 9: I joke about it every now and then. But Steve 778 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 9: was an MVP cover and he was a person. Steve was, 779 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 9: Steve was much Watch TV. 780 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: We're talking to Shaquille O'Neill. It's the Shocked Funhouse presented 781 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 2: by Credit One Bank. So this is going to be 782 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl. This is going to be in 783 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: San Francisco's historic cal Palace. So you got t Paine, Tiesto, 784 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: disco lines, and you DJ Diesel and that. 785 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 9: And Miles on there. He's actually a great DJA. This 786 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 9: will be for the eighth year in the row, the 787 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 9: number one party at Super Bowl. Dan, you've been at 788 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 9: Super Bowl where people just standing around and talk and 789 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 9: drink cocktails with this is like I said presenting about 790 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 9: Credit One Bank. We got a carnival rides, we got uh, 791 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 9: we got food, we got refreshments, We've got DJs. It's 792 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 9: gonna be a great time. And I started this thing 793 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 9: eight years ago and was very nervous about house, but 794 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 9: what's gonna go and went very well, and then we've 795 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 9: been taking off since then. For the eighth year in 796 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 9: a row, I expected to be crowned the number one 797 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 9: party followed about Illustrated. 798 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 2: Party, the Shacklicious excel Gummies. 799 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 9: Yes, shack delicious excel gummies where people will be uh 800 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 9: uh instructed to bite. 801 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:46,959 Speaker 4: My head off. 802 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 2: But these are just chocolate. These aren't like, no, they're gummies. 803 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 2: Are there pot gummies? 804 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 4: Gummies? No, not pot gummies. 805 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know. Those are the gummies that I have. 806 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 4: I am an. 807 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 9: Athlete, sir, I do not. I do not partake in 808 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 9: such activities. 809 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: You never gotten high? No, no, never tempted. 810 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 9: No. 811 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 4: The only thing I do is smoke hookah. 812 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: Does that give you a buzz? No? 813 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 4: I just do it for the smoke. 814 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: What about cigars, yes, ciars too, Oh yeahs, cigars are great. 815 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 2: The Lebron situation now with Luca and then you got Reeves, 816 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: and now Lebron kind of kind of get integrated, reintegrated. 817 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 2: Can he be a complimentary player? 818 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,479 Speaker 5: Do you think? 819 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't want to be the one that 820 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 9: saying Lebron is a complimentary player. It's just that I 821 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 9: think Lebron knows and understands that at some point this 822 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 9: thing comes to it in and Lebron has always been 823 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,439 Speaker 9: a team guy first. So no, right now he's integrated. Listen, 824 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 9: Austin Reeves is playing lights out. Lucas the leading scorer NBA, 825 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 9: he's playing lights out. I mean, little Lebron smart enough 826 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 9: to know when that these guys cook, and you know, 827 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 9: meet me. Uh, you know, Lebron say I'll take over. 828 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 9: So maybe I'm not gonna be the guy. Say Lebron, 829 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 9: you need to be a complimented player. Lebron knows and 830 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 9: understand how to win. He knows and and understands how 831 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 9: to run the team. And listen, Uh, all the greats 832 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 9: go to this point. You know, we have great beginnings, 833 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 9: we have great middles, and then at some point it 834 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 9: comes to Satursday for me is when there will be 835 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 9: no more Lebron, no more Durant, no more Steph Curry, 836 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 9: no more Draymond. Like that's gonna be a Saturday for me. 837 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 9: And then I have to, you know, reintegrate myself with 838 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 9: all these young guys. But you know, watching these guys 839 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 9: and you know I'm playing against these guys and you know, 840 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 9: see what they did after we after I left the game. 841 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 9: Is when those guys are going on, think, I'll be 842 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 9: a very Saturday for me. 843 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: Who will you miss more? Between Steph, Lebron and KD. 844 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 9: I don't miss all of them. You know they're all great. 845 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 9: You know Hardens on that list, My my guy Westbrook's 846 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 9: on unless dray minds on that list, you honest less 847 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 9: like it'll be. It'll be sad for me because I 848 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 9: enjoy watching the guys compete as youngsters and then turn 849 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 9: it into the great players the Hall of famers that there. 850 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 2: Uh, how's your free throw shooting terrible. 851 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 4: Only only hit them. I only hit them when I 852 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 4: need to hit them. 853 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: You know you tell me that. I know you told. 854 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 5: Me that. 855 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 4: There were in the finals. 856 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 2: I don't miss. I don't miss, though. I mean people 857 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 2: were surprised when you made they're surprised when I missed. 858 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 2: That's the difference. 859 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 4: Okay, I hear you. Are you challenging me, Daniel. 860 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 2: I'll make a blindfolded Daniel Fitzgerald Patrick. 861 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 862 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 2: Am I afraid of you at the line? 863 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 9: No? 864 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 4: Okay? 865 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well next time, next time I'm in your city, 866 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 9: I'm gonna come by your suit. 867 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: Right, fair enough for you that, But you would have 868 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 2: been a three? Would you have been a three point 869 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: shooter or tried to be if you played now? 870 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 9: But I would have definitely been able to bring the 871 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 9: ball up, initiate the offense, called offense, go coast to coast, 872 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 9: throw it down. I probably would only shot the three 873 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 9: if we were up more than ten fifteen points, just 874 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 9: to get the crowd into the game. But I'm not 875 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 9: gonna shoot five or six threes. Hell no, never. 876 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 2: All right, I'm just curious if you because big men 877 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 2: always want to do what the little guy does. 878 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 9: Yeah, so you know dribble and dribble handoffs, and you 879 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 9: know between the leg and crossover and step back, but 880 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 9: I'm not shooting the threes. 881 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: It is the party of all parties. If you're at 882 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 2: the Big Game Super Bowl weekend in San Francisco, Shack's Funhouse, 883 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: you're gonna we have a t pain, tiesto, disco lines 884 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 2: and Shack himself DJ Diesel. Tickets on sale today ten 885 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 2: am Pacific. Go to Shacks. That's plural, Shacksfunhouse dot com. 886 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 2: Shack is aladocious. Thanks again, great to see you, buddy. 887 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 4: Daniel Oswaldpatrick. I appreciate you.