1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and whatcome stuff? I 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: never told your production by her radio. 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: And we are officially in Hispanic Heritage month. So for 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: today's activists, we are talking about the works and advocacy 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: of Sarah Mora. So Mara is a fierce immigration rights 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: activist who has dedicated her life to advocate for the 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: rights of immigrants in the US. She actually moved here 8 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: at a very young age with her family from Costa Rica. 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: When I say here, I'm saying US, so I should 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: probably put that in there. It didn't take her long 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: to jump into advocacy work, as in fact, according to 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: her side Miss Sarahmura dot com, it was at the 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: age of ten she was already a vocal leader in 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: her church and community, and in high school she continued 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: to be a leader and advocate for her community, for 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: her people like this was the thing that she did 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: from jump. So in fact, soon after high school she 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: would go on to interview the Costa Rican Vice President 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: about immigrants in the US and people who had left 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: Costa Rica and DACA rights and how the country of 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: Costa Rica and other countries could support the young people 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: who are in the US. So DACA is a deferred 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: Action for childhood arrivals which passed in twenty twelve, which 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: quote offers a two year renewable legal status to undocumented 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: immigrants who entered the US as children. Recipients receive a 26 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: social Security number and are eligible to get a driver's license, job, 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: and start on a path to potential citizenship. So that's 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: from Assembly dot Malala dot org just a little bit 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: of information on what that program was. It could also 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: be referred to as dreamers, which we haven't heard as 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: much of recently, but obviously it's still a big thing. 32 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: We haven't heard too much about that, mainly because of 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: the whole issue of deportation, illegal arrests, and illegal attainment 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: of refugees and immigrants, so DACA would obviously be also 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: a bigger part of that conversation. It was in twenty seventeen, 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: during Trump's first administration that DACA was ended, which risks 37 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: the livelihoods of almost eight hundred thousand young people. In 38 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: an interview with Malala dot org, Sarah talks about how 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: DACA has been instrumental to her and her family. So 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: here's what she says. She says, DACA helped my sister 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: and I because it opens limited opportunities to function normally 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: within our spaces, for example, by providing a driver's license, opportunity, 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: working authorizations, and a Social Security number, driving to school 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: and college, supporting our family by being able to drive 45 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: my mom to hospital appointments, as well as being able 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: to drive to work has meant everything. I feel like 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: that should be a common sense conversation because we know 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: that the legalities around that is kind of harsh, and 49 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: in areas like Alina, in areas like Florida, in areas 50 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: like Georgia, and in most the Southeast, transportation is an 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 2: issue and there's not really any really sustainable transit systems, 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: and so having this type of assurance like insurance and 53 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: driver's license is really important to anybody's livelihood. So after 54 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: the ending of DACA, Maura publicly shared her story of 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: being undocumented and why DACA was so instrumental to her 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: life and many like her. In another interview she did 57 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: with seventeen dot com, she talked about why it was 58 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: so important for her to reveal her status. So she said, 59 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: it was important for me because I felt like I 60 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: lived in part of the country where that wasn't common. 61 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: You didn't talk about your legal status, especially not publicly, 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: So I feel like talking about it publicly was my 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: way of saying I don't care anymore. I always felt 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: like in that moment it was urgent to publicize the 65 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: tragedy that is migrant policy. After I got so many 66 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: messages from different people, young and old in New Jersey 67 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: saying thank you for sharing. Manie said that it made 68 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: them feel like if they ever wanted to share it, 69 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: they could, but even if they didn't, it was overwhelming 70 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: to see someone else speak out about it from her website, 71 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: Missarahmura dot org. After organizing and using her story publicly 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: to emphasize the complexities of an immigrant narrative, Sarah was 73 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: faced with learning the frustrating reality that, like her story, 74 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: migrant folks stories were not mainly used in a way 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: that empowered the character, but in a way that totally 76 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: erased the identity of the impacted person. She grew a 77 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: hunger for wanting immigrant parents, elders, in the entire migrant 78 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: community to be able to reclaim their stories and know 79 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: their rights as storytellers. Her experiences with organizations were negatives 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: that turned into the core of her passion. She knew 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: and had experience seeing with her own eyes the tokenizing 82 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: and exploitation of migrant people's stories, and so she took 83 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: her anger and worked on individual campaigns, beginning in twenty 84 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: eighteen with Nuestra Belesa Latina. This campaign was one of 85 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Sarah's first bigger steps into mass impact messages on what 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: it meant for companies like Univision to recognize and acknowledge 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: the undocumented population, which is a huge percentage of people 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: in the LATINX community. This campaign led to online conversation 89 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: on the matter, and when former winners of the Beauty 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: Paget heard and reached out to Sarah's campaign, she was 91 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: blown away by how simple it was to have gathered 92 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: that collective concern. And I think it's such a big 93 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: part of what we've talked about when we were able 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: to tell our own stories or where people able to 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: have platforms to share their stories and why that's important. 96 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: And also I think we've talked recently more about how 97 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 2: we're trying to be safe in being knowing our boundaries, 98 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: because unfortunately this country is not totally safe for everyone. 99 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: And I say to the MANI experiences I think both 100 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: Anie you and I have had in this business right 101 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: and as she continued to share her personal experiences and journey, 102 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: she talked about how so many others have come to 103 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: talk to her about their own experiences and stories. She 104 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: has used the power of social media to continue to 105 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: show the humanity behind so many of the undocumented immigrants 106 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: in the country and other places. In the Malala dot 107 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: org interview, she gave it advice on how to mobilize online, 108 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: saying be thorough and ensuring that the information and resources 109 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: you share are accurate and build a community by engaging 110 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: with the people that engage with you on your platform. 111 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: Mobilizing people online in this concept of online activism is 112 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: truly about being of service to others and not about 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: the ego. The time is now to speak out. History 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: is being made as we speak. Staying silent and quote 115 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: minding your business makes you complicit to the oppression of 116 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of people. All resources, talents, and voices 117 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: are welcome in a movement of change that is fighting 118 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: against an aggressive force of oppression that does not rest 119 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: and all of these things that is important and being 120 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: able to publicly at least support one another is a 121 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: huge part of that and whether it's having an opportunity 122 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: to share other people's stories or to bring light to 123 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: other people's stories, that's such an important part of this. 124 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: So her work has continued strong. She is working very strong. 125 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: In fact, she just was recently named one of Times 126 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: one hundred Creators and she was a past awardie of 127 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: the Kings Senators twenty twenty four Youth Influencer Award. She's 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: also the founder of the population Mike, where she tells 129 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: the stories of the marginalized people in a respectful and 130 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: impactful manner. So love seeing that work. She is huge 131 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: on the platform, so we definitely are watching and I'm 132 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: excited to see what else she does. 133 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and as always listeners, if you have any 134 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: suggestions for this segment or any resources you want to share, 135 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: we would love to hear from you. You can email 136 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: us at Hello at stuffannevertold You dot com. You can 137 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: find us on Blue Sky at mom Stuff podcasts our 138 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok at Stuff Never Told You. We're 139 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: also on YouTube. 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