1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, it's your homeboy Josh. And I was feeling 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: nostalgic this week, So for this edition of s Y 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: s K Selects, I've chosen our classic episode, How Hot 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Wheels Works. It's from two thousand fifteen and it is banging. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it. I hope it takes you 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: back to some great memories and um who knows. At 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: the very least, I hope it melos you out. Welcome 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: to stuff you should know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: w Chuck Bryant, Jerry. You know. That just sounded like, 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: what like, that's what happens. Like you're having a nightmare 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: and you me wakes you up in the middle of 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: the night, and he just goes, hey, welcome to the podcast, 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: and then she slaps you across the face. Real part m. 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: It's true. That is with its own bod. It sounded 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: that's pretty accurate. I don't know what got into me. 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: You were just super charged about this topic. That's terrible. 18 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: Super charged. I'll get it. It's like a super charged engine. 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. Oh good, that makes 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 1: me feel a little better. Yeah. Um, you know Jerry 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: by the way before when I told her what we 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: were doing, so, oh my gosh, that was my favorite 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: toy when I was a kid. Nice hot wheels are 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: pretty great. Yeah. I had a quite a collection, and 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't know where they are today. They're missing, huh. Yeah, 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if they were thrown out or if 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: if my brother has them, or they're my mom's attic 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: or what, because I'm kind of curious about have any 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: valuable you need to find them? Yeah, they could be apparently, 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: as far as hot wheels collectors go, it could be 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: in mint condition all the way down to beater condition. 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: I was high they rank them. Yeah, mine would be 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: beaters because I played with them like crazy. That's good. 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they're for, you know. And there's 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: value for a beater too, like some people apparently harvest 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: them for parts to rebuild like a you know, a 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: new Frankenstein model. Yeah, that's pretty neat. There's a lot 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: of stuff you can do with them. Yeah, and we 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: should thank the fifth grader who wrote this article too. 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Sad face. I complained about that out loud to Holly. 41 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: I was like, this article actually says sad face, like 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: as a sentence, Yeah, I know that issues. I'm glad 43 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: you said something. Yeah what if it was a fifth grader? 44 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: Your feelings are all hurt. I think your feelings are 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: hurt either way. Now, sad face. So we're talking about 46 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: hot wheels today. I had a couple. Um, my favorite 47 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: toy was g I Joe, but I appreciated Hot Wheels 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: Joe too. Do g I Joe episode? Sometimes I had 49 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: the older ones, though you probably had huge ones. Yeah yeah, 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: now I had the real ones. Ye oh yeah, I 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: don't that's fight words. Man. The ones that I had 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: were so awesome. They were like there was a huge, 53 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: fast collection of all of them. There was like cobra. 54 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: Cobra didn't exist when you were collecting g I Joes. No, 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: but how could you say, like, oh, that one that's 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: ten inches tall and has real clothes and fuzzy hair 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: and the kung fu grip is inferior to this little 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: plastic thing. I think you just said it. All fuzzy 59 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: hair says it right there. I don't really mean that, Chuck. 60 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: I I don't have a dog in that fight. Like, 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: if you like the big g I Joes that's cool. 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I got a problem. Yeah, it's a quick side note. 63 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I have to tell this story when you know how 64 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: I used to do book reports and you would have 65 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: to have a visual aid. Yeah. Um, I might have 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: told this before. If I do, I apologize, I don't 67 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: recognize it. Um. I did a report on Franco Harris 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: went in a lunchary school because he was the football player. Yeah. 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why I did Frankul Harris, But um, 70 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: I got my mom to make me a little Pittsburgh 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Steelers uniform for my g I Joe because he looked 72 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: like Franco Harris. Nice. Yeah, that was my visual lady, 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: you still have it, No, of course not. We have 74 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: the G I Joe's. But I think the Steelers uniform 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: is gone. Bye bye. That's said. Yeah, you know, I'm 76 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: sure your mom put a lot of work into that. 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Now it feels guilty. Uh So, Chuck, I have a 78 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: question for you. Did you know that the number one 79 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: vehicle manufacturer on the planet is, in fact hot wheels? 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: I did it. Kind of It's astounding until you stop 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: and think about it. Sure like, apparently, since when hot 82 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: wheels were first introduced, more than four billion hot wheels 83 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: have been produced. That's more than the big four Detroit 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: automakers combined. You're like wow, and then you think, oh yeah, 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: it costs a minute fraction of the cost to build 86 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: a hot wheels and it does a normal car. Plus. Also, 87 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: it's not like you're gonna go, I want this uh 88 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: bewick cutless supreme in every color it comes in, right, 89 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: you know what the hot wheels you can do that? Yeah? 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: What's the Lego stat is? They're the biggest manufacturer of tires? 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah there? Yeah. I wonder though, do these not count 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: as tires because they're plastic? The count as wheels? I 93 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: don't know, man, because four billion times four that's sixteen 94 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: billion tires. That's a really great question. I might have 95 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: to challenge Lego or maybe just look up how many 96 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: tires they manufacture. Old Kirk Christiansen is not going to 97 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: be happy about this. Who was that the founder of Lego? Remember? 98 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, that's right. I thought you were saying old. Yeah. So, um, 99 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: let's talk about the history of this stuff. Huh. So 100 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: hot wheels, like I said, have been around since nine 101 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: and anybody who's heard the Barbie Trademark podcast will recognize 102 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: the name Elliott Handler. That's Ruth Handler, the inventor of 103 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Barbie trade marks. Husband Um and Elliott apparently saw a 104 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: real chance to muscle in on an already extant market 105 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: by a company called Tycho that had a line of 106 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: miniature metal cars die cast cars is what they're called, 107 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: called Matchbox cars. That's right. By the time hot wheels 108 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: came around, Matchbox was already there and had established a market. 109 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: And Mattel said, let's get in on that. Yeah. And 110 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: the rumor is that he saw his grandchildren playing with 111 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: them and said, uh, they kind of stink. I could 112 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: make these better, cooler, And he had a um, as 113 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: the story goes, had a designer which we'll talk about 114 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: in the second called Harry Bradley, and he had a 115 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: hot rod and Elliott was in the parking lot when 116 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: Dan said, man, those are some hot wheels you got there. 117 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: And and apparently if you go look look at the 118 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: old original commercials for hot wheels, did they say that 119 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: that's how well, that's how they pronounce it wheels hot wheels. Yeah, 120 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: the emphasis is on the hot. It sounds awkward. They're like, 121 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: race your hot wheels. You can make you can race them. 122 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: Just go buy some hot wheels. That's what they That's 123 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: how they say it, collect all your hot wheels. Yeah, 124 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: but that makes more sense in the context of a sentence. 125 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: It does having been raised right, you know, post the 126 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: fast wheels, hot wheels, because wheels. Now I'm trying to 127 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: picture the guy in the parking lot saying, those are 128 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: some hot wheels you got on your there? You'd say 129 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: hot wheels you got there? You know? Yeah, Oh boy, 130 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: we can sure waste some time, we sure can. But 131 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: the first is, like you said, when the first line 132 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: came out of sixteen Hot Wheels, they were sold initially 133 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: for fifty nine cent apiece. Yeah, And like you said, 134 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: the guy whose car originally inspired the name Hot Wheels 135 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: UM was Harry Bradley, and he was the designer of 136 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: that first sixteen cars. They were also called UM. California 137 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: Customs Miniatures. Was that first original sixteen group of Hot 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: Wheels UM that were released in nine so and Harry 139 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: Bradley designed them all, including apparently he got his hands 140 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: on the first one, by the way that came out 141 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: was a Chevy Camarose. The second one that came out 142 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: was the Chevy Corvette, and apparently the Chevy Corvette came 143 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: out before the actual Corvette came out. Yeah, the sixty 144 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: nine Corvette. That is so Harry Bradley was an old 145 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: hand and not just miniature car design, but car design 146 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: in general. He was an old GM designer and I 147 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: guess he had connections still at GM and probably under 148 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: the table in a possibly illegal way, got his hands 149 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: on the blueprints for the Corvette that hadn't been released yet, 150 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: and hot Wheels beat GM to the punch and re 151 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: leasing the corvette. Yeah, sixty nine, Um, thank you, that's 152 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: all right. The yeah, as the lord goes, he supposedly 153 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: knew that the cafeteria door was unlocked, so he snuck 154 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: in through the cafeteria door. But that's called industrial espionage. Yeah, 155 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: that sounds like a story like just lore. Okay, but 156 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: maybe so maybe he'd committed industrial espionage. Um. So, like 157 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: you said, the those were the two of the first 158 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: sixteen in that original lineup, that original collection, which if 159 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: you have any of those, yeah, yeah, you got some 160 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: money that you're sitting on, because I mean like they 161 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: went all out on those that original line Like there 162 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: are bushings to the suspension, Yeah, and the I mean 163 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: the chassis. UM. It had suspension like shocks, like you 164 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: could press them down and it would bounce back. I 165 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: had some of those. I don't think they were from 166 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: sixty eight. But when did they quit making as set 167 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: up until seventies seven was when they stopped making the UM. 168 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: Oh no, seventy is when the suspension got an overhaul. Okay, 169 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: so for the first couple of years, like, they were 170 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: really putting a lot into these things. UM. The tires 171 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: were red line racing slicks, UM and the things. The 172 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: whole reason they went to so much trouble is because 173 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: they really wanted to destroy their competitor, matchbox. And one 174 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: of the ways they did that was by making these 175 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: things far more functional, um than the match boxes were. 176 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: The matchbox cars were, so they really could race. And 177 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: if you put a matchbox car up against the comparable 178 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: hot wheels, say the same model car, um, the hot 179 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: wheels will destroy it every time in the head to 180 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: head race. As we saw on the internet. A guy 181 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: did that of course. Uh. He took a two volkswagons 182 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: and two OUTI eights I think in one matchbox and 183 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: one hot wheel and he said they won by at 184 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: least a car link every time he tried. And this 185 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: was no loop de loop rain things was just the 186 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: straight race. Um. They painted them originally in Spectra Flame, 187 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: which was very shiny and sparkly and expensive. Um. And 188 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: I don't think we said that all hot wheels are 189 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: built at one sixty scale. Yeah, that's a big point, 190 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: but not necessarily all match butt cars. They kind of 191 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: vary here and there, right. Um. But like you said 192 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: that Spectra Flame and the red line tires didn't only 193 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: last until seventy seven, and the suspension only lasted till 194 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy and they sadly a lot of that had 195 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: to do with the fact that they moved them from Hawthorne, 196 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: California to Hong Kong. And like any product, you're like, hey, 197 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 1: you can make it for half as much if you 198 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: make it in China, so let's move, let's ship the 199 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: operations overseas well. Not only that, it's the Spectra flame 200 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: pain is pretty expensive. It's awesome, it looks great, but 201 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: it's pretty expensive. So um, with with any collector's item. 202 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: As they started to downgrade the components, in the parts 203 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: and the manufacturing and ultimately the final product, all that 204 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: did was make the original stuff all the more valuable 205 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: today because as much fewer and fewer of them as 206 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: the years go on, proportionately speaking. Yeah, they had actual axles, 207 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: like you know, it was like a real They were 208 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: designed by car designers. Uh. And they were made apparently 209 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: to reach two hundred scale miles per hour. Yeah, that's 210 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: pretty cool. That's way cool. You remember, like in the 211 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: cockroach episode we talked about how they're the fastest animal 212 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: on the planet relatively speaking. Pretty neat stuff. Um, so 213 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: chuck right out of the gate. Mattel had a hit 214 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: on his hands. Um. They released him in nineteen sixty eight. 215 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: By nineteen seventy, Hot Wheels was a Saturday morning cartoon 216 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: in the vein of like Dune Buggy and Scooby Doo 217 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: and all those guys. Hannah, Barbara dug you're speed Buggy, 218 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: Speed Buggy. Yeah, remember speed Buggy. It was like a 219 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 1: dune buggy that could talk, and it was basically wonder 220 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: bug No, it's speed Buggy, um, because there was like 221 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: if you took Shaggy and put some like racing goggles 222 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: on him and then turned Scooby Doo into a speed 223 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: a doom buggy, that's speed Buggy. Was that a cartoon? Yeah, 224 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: wing around solving mysteries and stuff like that. Yeah, Wonderbug 225 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: was I think that was live action. This was a cartoon, 226 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: said Marty Croft. This is exactly like Scooby Doo by 227 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: the people who did Scooby Doo, using the same people 228 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: who did the voices for Scooby Doos. It just vaguely 229 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: changed the characters. Hot Wheels was virtually the same thing, 230 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: except it was about racing clubs. There were the bad 231 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: guys and good guys and do you know this prus 232 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: what is the nineteen seventies that the doom Buggie was 233 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: a very popular thing, remember seeing those on the road, 234 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: Like I used to see him all the time. Not 235 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: all the time, but in the seventies it was a 236 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: common thing. Yeah, you don't see him anymore, very rarely. No. 237 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: No Gremlins, no u goos, No, no wonder bugs. You 238 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: know I like gremlins, do you uh? They're okay for 239 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: me though. The koded Gras of car design is the 240 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: AMC Pacer. Yeah, it's like the four Mica Kitchen of cars. 241 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: It's beautiful in all the weirdest ways. That would be 242 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: my soft after Hot Wheels if I had a hot 243 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: Wheels that if I just could have one hot wheel, 244 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: it would I don't know if that would be it, 245 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: but I'd be happy with that one. Now do they 246 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: have that that's a hot wheel? Oh yeah. And if 247 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: you look up a mc gremlin hot wheels, they went 248 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: to town on those. They had some with like the 249 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: the intakes, like sticking out of the hood and um, 250 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: just all sorts of just awesome different variations like indiecr 251 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: Gremlins and stuff like that. Because and that raises a 252 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: pretty good point. Hot wheels has always been about the 253 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: racing design, Like they've designed them to look like racing cars, 254 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: but they've also manufactured to actually be able to win 255 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: a race, like we talked about with matchbox. Yeah, and 256 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: one of the differences that is one of the main 257 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: differences between the matchbox and the hot wheel is they 258 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: were just much more interested in being sportier, like you 259 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: could get you could get a matchbox like a delivery truck, right, 260 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, they had that, and but the match boxes 261 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: looked more real. They all were about looking realistic and 262 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily performance. Um, and hey, if you want a 263 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: bread truck, you can get a bread truck, right exactly, 264 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: but you can't get a bread truck hot wheel. You know. Uh, 265 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about all of this jam right after this. 266 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: You want to go ahead and talk about some of 267 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: the other differences between Matchbox and hot Wheel. Yes, since 268 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: we're at it, um, Matchbox or I'm sorry, hot Wheel 269 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: is the one that is more likely to have branded versions. 270 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Oh man. And do they ever like the Ghostbusters ectomobile 271 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: right um? Or even more than that, Like they have 272 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: a deal with eminem Mars for two thousand fifteen, so 273 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: they have like a TwixT trucks and a Skittles van 274 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: and like all this stuff. They have licensing with d 275 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: C and Marvel this year, Fast and the Furious. I 276 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: know they had a line. So they're they're really big 277 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: time into branded and a lot of times they'll have 278 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: like a store will just have exclusives, access to an 279 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: exclusive line of Skittles cars or something like that that 280 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: you can only get at KB Toys. Yeah. I think 281 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: they have a NASCAR deal too, If I'm not mistaken, 282 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised. Uh. And the hot wheels 283 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: usually have a little bit um wider, longer axle and 284 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: wider wheels. Um, because it's just cooler if that wheel 285 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: sticks up from the body a little bit, you know. Well, 286 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: plus also supposedly, and we'll talk about this a little more. 287 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: When you shrink a car down to scale, it looks 288 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: a little weird. Yeah, you might as well go ahead 289 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: and bring that up. Okay, it looks weird. You can't 290 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: just shrink it and have it's in the same proportion 291 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: and have it look normal, right Like, it will be 292 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: as far as like shrinking a car down by scale, 293 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: it will be in the exact same proportion. But it's 294 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: just awful a little bit. Like So what they do 295 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: to make hot wheels race able is they expand the 296 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: wheel well a little more. Yea, they break it out 297 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, which is why the wheel stick out 298 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: some on a on a hot wheels, but not on 299 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: a matchbox. That's right, because match boxes are all about realism. 300 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: To heck with how it looks, as long as it's real. Uh. 301 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: The um one of the my favorite ones, and I 302 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: had one of these that they mentioned this article was 303 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: the red baron. The person who wrote this that it 304 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: was an inexplicable and inexplicably cool helmet over the cockpit. UM. 305 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, but a explic couple. It was just 306 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: the roof of the car was a helmet. Um. But 307 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: I looked it up again today and I was like, oh, yeah, 308 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: I had that thing, but it was it wasn't a 309 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: Nazi helmet per se, but it was that shape of 310 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: the helmet. Uh, Like the U. S. Soldiers had that 311 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: shape now, you know where it's cut lower around the 312 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: ears instead of just a straight you know, like the 313 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: World War two helmet. But the Nazis used those first, 314 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, because it's a better design for war. And 315 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: it also had a black iron cross on the side 316 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: of it, well hence the red baron, right, Yeah, but 317 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: it was It's easy now as an adulta look and 318 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: say that looks like a little Nazi hot rod. Yeah, 319 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: but the red baron was World War One. He was 320 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: pre Nazi Germany. Yeah. And it was also I think 321 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: at the time just like look like the biker gang 322 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: would wear like those helmet with the iron cross. Yeah. 323 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: And all of it was Southern California hot rod culture. Yeah, 324 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: what gave rise to hot wheels. So it makes sense. Yeah, 325 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think there was any like sartitious intent. Yeah. Um, so, 326 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: like I said right out, of the gate. Hot Wheels 327 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: was a hit. They had a cartoon within a year 328 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: or so of the first sixteen being released. Um, the 329 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: second release they had I think twenty two new cars 330 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: thirty three total, and then um, the third year they 331 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: they had another. They released thirty three after that, right 332 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, I'm sorry, thirty three by nine seventy. 333 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: So they did sixteen, twenty four and then thirty three 334 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: and all of them came in like different colors, right, So, 335 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: like I said, if you had one, that didn't mean 336 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: you had them all. You wanted to collect them all. 337 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: So kids were going crazy for it. And another way 338 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: that Mattel very wisely targeted children was to get in 339 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: with fast food. Uh. In nineteen seventy the first hot 340 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: Whales came out as a toy at Jack in the Boxes. Yeah. 341 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: The big one though, the one that like put them 342 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: over the top, was in nineteen eighty three when kids 343 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: who were lucky enough to be taken to McDonald's for 344 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: dinner the happy Meal and to get a wheels what 345 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: they called them at the time, uh or could get 346 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: one of fourteen hot wheels in three and they had 347 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: some cool ones. They had a Chevy citation, did they really? Yeah, 348 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: they had one that was one of my favorites. Actually 349 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: it was a Toyota Mini Trek, which is a like 350 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: a station wagon camper, and it even said painted on 351 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: the side good time camper that you could get and 352 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: you're happy meal, which if I could have one hot wheel, 353 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: it would probably be that. You know what they were 354 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: doing now that I look back through my adult eyes, 355 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: like snorting pot. No, they were giving you a bunch 356 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: of crappy ones because you wanted to keep coming back 357 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: to get the cool one. Yeah. Probably you're like, I 358 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: got a citation, Like, can I go back because I 359 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: want to get the hot rod. That's exactly what they 360 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: were doing. Sure, man, I feel so like manipulated. What 361 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: did you think they were doing with happy meals? Well, 362 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's all manipulation to get you 363 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: to try and own all of them, but they should 364 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: have been all cool ones. But you can't do that 365 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: because the regular kid might be like, no, I got 366 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: I got the cool one. I'm fine. But if you 367 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: get this the citation, you feel jipped off and you 368 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: really want to go back and get one of the 369 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: hot rods. It's my eyes are wide open. My friends. 370 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: Well that's why our friends down Under in Australia have 371 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: like outlawed marketing directly to children, which I think is 372 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: a fantastic Really. Yeah, that's so unfair to market directly 373 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: to children. It's just almost literally is like taking candy 374 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: from a baby. Like kids aren't sophisticated enough to psychologically 375 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: defend themselves from being like bombarded with by adults to say, 376 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: go tell your parents to buy you this. You can't 377 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: function correctly without this trapper keeper, so go get it 378 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: the trappic keeper. Yeah, what did make a law? Yeah? 379 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: Really yeah, it's a big, very progressive law which I 380 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: think all countries should have adopt. Um. Well, in nineteen 381 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: eighty three, I agree wholeheartedly. By the way, in is 382 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: when that happy Meal thing happened. And also the same 383 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: year they moved from Hong Kong to Malaysia, um and 384 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: it and it said that's when they added their economy cars, 385 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: So that must have coincided with the citation. Yeah, the 386 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: citation man one of the most disappointing Happy Meal toys 387 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: you could possibly get. Yeah, because it reminded you of 388 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: your dad who drove a citation right, who was always mad. Oh, 389 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: dear so u Chuckers. Yes, after not a lot happened, 390 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Hot Wills just kept going on, expanding more and more 391 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: and more. Um. I think they had another Happy Meals 392 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: joint in ninety one or something like that. Um and 393 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: uh five, they said we need to we need to 394 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: do something big and they did. They were at leased 395 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: something called Treasure Hunt series, which was a purposefully limited 396 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: release car series of cars. Um. I think they did 397 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: uh twelve models at ten thousand each originally and and 398 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: hence the name Treasure Hunt. They were hard to find. Yeah, 399 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: and one of the cooler ones for me, uh was 400 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: the Oldsmobile for forty two. Yeah. The thing is, dude 401 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: at my church had a four forty two and it 402 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: was just awesome. Man. He was he had like the 403 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: only muscle car in the youth group. And years, like 404 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: two years ago, my brother I was talking about this dude, 405 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: Jason Singleton. I was like, whatever happened to him? He's like, oh, 406 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: he still lives in the so and so and he 407 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: went and you know what, dude, I went, No, he went, 408 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: he still got it. Oh yeah, why would you get 409 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: rid of it? He still he still has the car. 410 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: Went to his Facebook page and it is like the 411 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: center of his life. I'm sure it's his baby. I mean, 412 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: he's had that thing since six and just it's juiced 413 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: up and he's to scare the daylights out of me 414 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: and that thing. But it was also exhilarating, you know, 415 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: to be riding with him and he you know, like 416 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: two feet of drag. He would lay like power breaking 417 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: and you would get like four sets of tires a year. 418 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: He'd be in the passenger seat, going safe, be jeezy. Yeah, 419 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: I was very scared because I was you know, I 420 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: didn't flirt with the wild side back then. The Oldsmobile 421 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: forty two is as close as you got. Was eating. 422 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: And then so that Treasure Hunt thing kind of went um. 423 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: It didn't go exactly as planning. Mattel was like, oh, 424 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: we could make even more money if we put these 425 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: into wider release. So the original ten thousand releases were 426 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: redoing again and again and again. So Treasure Hunt kind 427 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: of became commonplace. But it was a good idea and 428 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: it tapped into this whole idea of collecting. Like Mattel 429 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: was like, we know you're out there, and we're going 430 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: to design these just for you. Yeah, and we'll talk 431 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: more about collectors, um, but just to kind of button 432 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: up the history of hot wheels, it all came full 433 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: circle when um, Mattel bought Tycho and hence hot Wheels 434 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: bought Matchbox. So they're all owned by Mintel at this point. Yes, 435 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: all right, we'll get to the design and collecting right 436 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: after this. So back then, if you wanted to do 437 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: a smaller version of a larger car and scale it down, um, 438 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: you didn't have computer aided design and stuff. Sometimes you 439 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: might have had a blueprint which helped, but sometimes you 440 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: just had to get out there in the parking lot 441 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: with the tape measure and just take some measurements and 442 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: then um, you know, be good at math, right basically, 443 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: And like like we said, Harry Bradley, who's the daddy 444 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: of the hot wheels designs, Who's the guy who did 445 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: the first sixteen Um, he was a GM designer originally 446 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: in his footsteps followed Howard Reese and then after that 447 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: Larry would and they those are some of like the 448 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: legendary hot wheels designers. That's the Mountain Rushmore of hot 449 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: wheels pretty much. Yeah, um, and yeah, they would just 450 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: literally go out and measure these things, and that was 451 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: one way that Hot Wheels were born. Another way was 452 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: that And this definitely differentiates Hot Wheels from Matchbox is 453 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: that there are Hot Wheels that only exist in the 454 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: Hot Wheels world. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They They are 455 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: called the fantasy cars, like they're just the designers imagination 456 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: come to life. Whereas Matchbox only I believe, has uh 457 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: bred trucks exactly, well, they only have cars that are 458 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: based on real cars, right right. Hot Wheels has a 459 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: whole fantasy line. It's interesting that their own bites of 460 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: the same company still and that they just have kept 461 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: that distinction. You know. I guess some people are Matchbox 462 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: kids and some kids are Hot Wheels kids. I had both. 463 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: I think I had a bread truck. Is that why 464 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: you keep going to the bread truck? Well, no, I 465 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: didn't have a bread truck, but I do remember having 466 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: a couple of like weird utility type vehicles. Uh that 467 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember. They were probably gifts or stocking stuffers 468 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: or something. I don't think I like sought it out. 469 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: I was always into Tonka trucks. I thought Tonko was great. 470 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: They were obviously much bigger, but those were like construction 471 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: vehicles like dump trucks and stuff like that, and still today. 472 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: Um that Volvo dump truck, the giant one, yeah, um 473 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: with the huge wheels, I think is one of the 474 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: coolest vehicles ever created. Yeah. I think I had one 475 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: of those when I was a kid. I didn't have 476 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: a lot of Tonka stuff. Um. One of my favorite 477 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: hot wheels though, was the little red Express truck. I 478 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: don't remember that if you saw it, you might it 479 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: might ring a bell. It was basically, uh, I can't 480 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: remember what kind of truck it was. I think it 481 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: was a Dodge, but it was just a cool red 482 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: step side pickup truck and it had the two uh, 483 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: the two vertical mufflers on each side that went up 484 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: above the truck. I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah, 485 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: it's really cool. And if you go to them the 486 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: Peterson Automotive Museum in l A. They have a really 487 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: cool exhibit there that I haven't been to in person, 488 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: but I was looking at it, a line permanent exhibit 489 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: where they have the real life versions of the hot 490 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: wheel cars and they have a little red Express truck, 491 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: a full size one. Yeah, and I saw it and 492 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa you just die from nostalgia. Look 493 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: might have cheered up a little bit at this at 494 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: the desk. Um, but they have, you know, the gussied 495 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: up corvettes with the big chrome engines coming out of 496 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: the hood. And do they have the four or four two? Uh? 497 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if they have the four forty two. 498 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: But I'm there when friend dies, but it's in his will, 499 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: I'll go straight to the museum. I'm gonna go to 500 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: this thing though at some point I don't know, in 501 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: this next l a trip or not. But um, it's 502 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: right there near the LaBrea tarpets. I think, oh, yeah, 503 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: so I want to go check it out. I've been there. Yeah, 504 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: it's neat. It is neat. But back to the design. 505 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: These days, you're not gonna need a tape measure and 506 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: stuff like that. You're gonna photoshop designs and you're gonna 507 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: even get a three D printer to maybe to your prototype. 508 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 1: That had to have helped them tremendously, because you know, 509 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: with if you're designing real life cars and you have 510 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: a three D printer, that's pretty handy, but with hot 511 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: wheels like you can print out pretty much exactly what 512 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna look like. And once they have them the 513 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: prototype done, they'll make them. They'll make a mold out 514 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: of it and then inject it with molten metal under 515 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: tremendous pressure. And that's why it's called die cast. You 516 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: create a die that you cast all of the ensuing 517 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: ones from. Yeah, and I think there may with less 518 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: metal than they used to be. Um, but they still 519 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: have metal components, right. Yeah, I haven't seen a new 520 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: one in a while. I haven't either, but I'm almost 521 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: positive they do. And apparently they're still about like a 522 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: dollar really Yeah. I was on the Hot Wheels collector 523 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: site today and like they kept making reference to about 524 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: a dollar. So so just what's called the main line? Yeah, 525 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: the ones that they make on mass the citation exactly. Um, 526 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: I'll bet if you've got your hands on that citation 527 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,479 Speaker 1: be worth a few bucks. But they kept referring to 528 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: the mainline stuff. So as about a dollar, well, they've 529 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: just kept making their manufacturing cheaper and cheaper, so they've 530 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: maintained that cost, I guess. Uh. So as far as 531 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: collecting goes, uh, the most valuable and that is not um, 532 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: this crazy one they made out of diamonds for the 533 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: anniversary which we'll talk about in a minute. But the 534 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: most valuable regular hot wheel is the UH sixty eight 535 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: beach Bomb, which was a VW bud us in hot 536 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: pink that had UM real surfboard sticking out of the 537 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: back of it. Yeah. Originally, UM they only released I 538 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: think twenty five of them like that. There were a 539 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: couple of problems. It was difficult to manufacture them with 540 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: the surfboards sticking on the back, even though it was 541 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: more realistic, and it also um was terrible on like 542 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: a loop de loop track because I guess the surfboards 543 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: would either way I'm down or it would get stuck. 544 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: So they only made just a few of these things. 545 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: The beach Bomb that was the highest selling UM the 546 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: hot wheels ever, was a pink one. They made even 547 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: fewer of those because apparently a lot of boys were like, 548 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm not playing with some pink van, even if it 549 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: does have cool surfboards sticking out the back. So the 550 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: things sold for like I think seventies something seventy five 551 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in two thousand and it is since sold again. 552 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: In two thousand and eleven, I saw in like l 553 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: a magazine for like a hundred and twenty five thousand. 554 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: It's a lot of money for a tiny little car. 555 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And that's the highest one ever apparently, 556 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: um by a long shot too. Yeah. Um. I mean 557 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: I've seen others that were worth like ten grand and stuff, 558 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: like I think one of those forty two originals is 559 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: like ten grands. Yeah, I guess like nineteen seventy. Mongoose 560 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: or cobra are worth about ten grand these days. Um. 561 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: And a lot of them, just like with any collector's item, Um, 562 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: you'll see if there was just a few of them made, 563 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: obviously they're going to be worth a lot more. Um. 564 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: If there's something that where they adjusted the design, like 565 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: for example, the Python was originally called the Cheetah, and 566 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: then they found out that a real life executive with 567 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: real life lawyers at GM owned the name cheetah because 568 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: apparently GM executives just owned names for cars that could 569 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: potentially be used like every ana fast animal name, right exactly. 570 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: So they changed it to the the Python. But there 571 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: they that was after they'd started manufacturing the Cheetah. So 572 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: there's some out there that say eda uh stamped on 573 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: the bottom, And if you have one of those, it's 574 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: support ten grand. Yeah, it's funny to think about. It's 575 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: the same with Star Wars, Like sometimes the mistake ones 576 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: are the ones that are super valuable because like there 577 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: was some recall, but like, oh, but you want that 578 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: one because the Boba Fett's rocket really shot out before 579 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: kids started choking on them, right or catching on fire, 580 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: and that's the one you want. But like you said, 581 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: it's all about scarcity and supply to man, dude, this 582 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: whole thing has reminded me of um, a really great 583 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: gallery I put together about hilarious knockoff toys that, yeah, 584 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: go to stuff you should know dot com and look 585 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: that up. It's pretty awesome. There's some really strange interpretations 586 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: of beloved toys, including Star Wars toys that people who 587 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: make counterfeit toys come up with to try to skirt 588 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: trademark law maybe or something or else. They just fully 589 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: don't understand the toy and what it's a lurous, so 590 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: they just make it in this weird ter rotation. It's 591 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: pretty hilarious stuff. Yeah, it's a good one. We'll post 592 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: that again. Um. And then I did mention the diamonds 593 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: studded one. I always think these things are just ridiculous. 594 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: But um, but like to take any like the diamond 595 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: studded bras was worth, you know, yeah, for million bucks. 596 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: I just always think it's kind of dune. But they 597 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: did make a fort anniversary in edition in nineteen I'm sorry, 598 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight with hundred little diamonds and 599 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: rubies for tail lights and uh black diamonds for the 600 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: tires and all that stuff. Eighteen care at white gold body. 601 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: But um, it's worth a hundred and forty or cost 602 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: a hundred and forty thousand dollars to put together. But 603 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure gaudy. It's a gaudy hot wheels. Yeah, it's 604 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: like cars. Cool looks like Mad Max's car? Oh you get? 605 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: Is that a picture of it? I don't think I 606 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: saw that. Can you identify that car? Uh? What is that? 607 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: Looks familiar? It does look familiar to me, sort of 608 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: like a DeLorean, but I don't think it is. I 609 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: don't think so either. No, man, that new Mad Max 610 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: looks good though. Are they remaking Mad Max? Well, there's 611 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: a new reboot I guess is what they call it 612 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: these days? Cool? Um? What's his face? That played? Uh? 613 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: Bain um Tom? But it looks it's the same director, 614 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: Tom Hardy. Yeah, Tom Hardy, but it's the same director 615 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: from all of the Mad Max series. So it's oh 616 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: really yeah yeah yeah, And it just looks just the 617 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: whole it's supposed to be just like one long, intense 618 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: chase battle. It sounds a lot like a Mad Max movie. 619 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: You want. Have you ever seen Vanishing Point? Uh? I think? So? 620 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: What is that? It was like, uh man, I can't 621 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: remember the car, but the car was basically the Star. 622 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: It was one long car chase from like I think, um, 623 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: Colorado to California. Yeah, I remember that. That's a good 624 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: one from the IND's Yeah, two lane Blacktops. That's another classic. Yeah, 625 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that one. Yeah, that's good. When that 626 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: one weirdly had James Taylor in it when he was 627 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: young and like on drugs and cool? Were they apologizing 628 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: to France? No, I don't know what the deal was. 629 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: Did you hear about that? So that whole Charlie hebdough 630 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: um like solidarity March, the U S sent like I 631 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: think the assistant be in charge of the U s 632 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: d A or something like that. Um, so to apologize 633 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: John Carey head um, James Taylor go to France to perform. 634 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: You've got a friend shut up for the French government. Yeah, 635 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: we just talk about I know, isn't it send guns 636 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: and roses or something at least like well, not send 637 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: guns and roses from nineteen I would be guns and roses. Man. 638 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: One more thing about collecting. If you wanted to be 639 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: the coolest collector of hot wheels on the planet, you 640 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: would have to build a time machine and go back 641 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: to to my hometown of Toledo, Ohio, which is where 642 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: the first ever hot Wheels Convention Collector's Convention was held. 643 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: I really wish I would have gone to that because 644 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: I was there at the time. What your was it? Oh? Yeah, 645 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe we sent James Taylor. I'm still dislike, Yeah, 646 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: I can't focus on anything. Well, if you want to 647 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: know more about James Taylor, hot wheels, or just about 648 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: anything there is in the universe, you can type it 649 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: into the search bar at how stuff works dot com. 650 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: And since I said search parts, time for listener mail. 651 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call this um minimum wage argument, not argument proposal. Alright, 652 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: listen to how homelessness works from quite a few years ago, 653 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: and you guys commented that part of the problem was 654 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: at low minimum wage. In comparison the cost of renting 655 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: a two bedroom apartment, you'd have to something like eighty 656 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: seven per hours eighty seven hours per week to afford it, 657 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: with the implication we need to raise minimum wage. After 658 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: hearing this, a clear solution occurred to me. I think 659 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: disagreements on raising minimum wage a result was simple misunderstanding. 660 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: On the raised side, people believe this wage should be 661 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 1: set at a level that would allow someone to raise 662 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: a few children and live a modest but reasonably comfortable level, 663 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: or at least a safe level. On the don't raise 664 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: it side, people believe minimum wage is just a starting 665 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: point for working, uh, like for teenagers at their summer 666 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: job or after school. This I believes workers should uh, 667 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: we're never intended two and should not expect to be 668 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: able to support a family that pays minimum wage. So 669 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: here's my solution. Since we're a democracy here, let's just 670 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: decide what it is supposed to accomplish and then set 671 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: it at the appropriate level to do that. If we 672 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: decide as a nation that someone should be able to 673 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: raise a family in a two betterom apartment while earning 674 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: a wage minimum wage. Let's just figure out what that 675 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: would cost and set wage there. Figure in rent, clothing, food, utilities, transportation, etcetera. 676 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 1: Let's say it's twenty seven grand per year, then set 677 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: it at that rate. The other hand, if we as 678 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: a nation decide that minimum wage is just a starting 679 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: point and not meant to support a family, it's intended 680 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: for people with no work history or experience and low 681 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: to no marketable skills, and we need to set minimum 682 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: wage at a relatively low level and let the market. 683 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: The free market will ultimately determine the wage for entry 684 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: level workers, and workers historically have been able to increase 685 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: compensation by gaining skills and good work history. With a 686 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: settled any argument about setting minimum wage at a living 687 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: wage would be mistaken because we all just decided that 688 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: people are not meant to live on minimum wage and 689 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: certainly not meant to support a family. That is from 690 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: Joe pro Haska in Reno, Nevada, and uh interesting, I 691 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing the rebuttal emails. I love that 692 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, it's a great proposal. I mean so, 693 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: I think that is what it's based on. Sure, but 694 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: as far as I know, the cost of living calculations 695 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: are really out of date and take a lot of 696 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: stuff into account that doesn't really apply any longer. Plus, 697 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: regardless of what you think it should or should not be, 698 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: the fact is adults with two kids are still going 699 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: to be working these jobs. It's not just going to 700 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: be teenagers looking to advance. But it would be nice 701 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: to put that issue to bed, to say like, this 702 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: is what we're trying to achieve, or this is not 703 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: what we're trying to achieve, at the very least, to 704 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: get everybody talking. Yeah, because should some teenager at his 705 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: first job make like fourteen bucks an hour? I don't know. 706 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's sending the right message either. 707 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. We'll leave it up 708 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: to you guys, our dear listeners. When I started working, 709 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: it was like three bucks an hour or something. It 710 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: was ridiculously low. That is ridiculously low. Uh. 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