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Speaker 3: Live from Kenya, would Calise on her one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty acres soon to be three hundred acres of land.

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Speaker 3: And in the background you see this is actually a volcano,

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Speaker 3: very rare, little known fact.

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Speaker 4: So Calise, we're exactly are we at right now?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So we're in Naivasha. We're right off of Lake

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Speaker 5: Naivasha and this is Mount langanat here behind this property,

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Speaker 5: on the other side of the mountain is the National Reserve.

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Speaker 5: This is all privately owned land here and it's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: because as you see, all the animals are free and

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Speaker 5: they're running wild and we're farming, and it's just it's dope.

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Speaker 5: Building a little community out here and.

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Speaker 2: Talk to us about the intent.

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Speaker 1: Right, we just walked in a sort of farm, saw

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Speaker 1: some red onions, some yellow onions.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about what's happening here, what's going to be coming?

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Speaker 5: Okay, So my plan is to do an all sustainable

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Speaker 5: luxury retreat like a resort, so along with the farming,

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Speaker 5: doing agriculture, but also having a wellness space so people

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Speaker 5: can come and spot up and relax. We have a

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Speaker 5: fine dining restaurant. We love bungalows. It's all just about

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Speaker 5: being one with nature, being out here and trying to

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Speaker 5: get keep it as part of the ecoism as possible

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Speaker 5: and just making it all go together. So what I

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Speaker 5: learned in California, I'm bringing here and I'm learning so much,

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Speaker 5: Like I was telling you, I've learned so much about

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Speaker 5: natural and using all the natural resources, the animals and

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Speaker 5: all of it. So it's been great.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to have the details, sit down conversation

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Speaker 3: about those important to get people to visuals.

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Speaker 4: So on this land, tell exactly what's on this land.

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Speaker 3: You've got farming, you've got exotic animals, you have like

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Speaker 3: what's does all encompass?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so yeah, we've got farming right now, we're farming onions,

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Speaker 5: and then we've got wildlife. So just working with all

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Speaker 5: of the natural resources. We've got giraffes and zebras and

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Speaker 5: elons and impalas and all kinds of stuff. Sometimes you'll

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Speaker 5: see get blessed with an elephant walking through and the

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Speaker 5: giraffes are hanging out. So it's great because even like

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Speaker 5: the Lake Naivasha, I think like December January, you'll see

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Speaker 5: it covered with like flamingos and we get all kinds

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Speaker 5: of owls and as. It's just it's incredible, literally like God's.

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Speaker 4: Country, Alvin, what's this mean for Africa?

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Speaker 3: Like to actually for people to visually see things that

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Speaker 6: I think we should just travel more, you know, East Africa,

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Speaker 6: West Africa, Central Africa. There is so much to see.

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Speaker 6: I just think we should also be more educated about

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Speaker 6: like you said, we have wild animals, eyl and dangerus species,

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Speaker 6: but I just really want black people to work, to

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Speaker 6: go to more, you know, just understand that, Like there's

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Speaker 6: so much happening and we have to really travel and

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Speaker 6: just not be afraid. You know, this was just over

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Speaker 6: everyone's out here doing research and this is going to

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Speaker 6: be a beautiful project and I want people to just

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Speaker 6: pay attention and you know, ask as many questions as possible,

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Speaker 6: but also be a part of it. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were looking at a lake in front of

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Speaker 1: a volcano. I mean, these are rare sightings in the world, right,

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Speaker 1: So talk about the question that everybody he wants to know.

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Speaker 2: Why can you?

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, Kenya's everything. Kenya has everything. It is

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Speaker 5: the hub of East Africa for technology and finance and

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Speaker 5: obviously agriculture. It just has everything, and it's got kind

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Speaker 5: of the best of all the world. So you can

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Speaker 5: be completely far away that can rule planes like this,

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Speaker 5: or you can be in Nairobi, which is a bustling

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Speaker 5: city with great restaurants and shopping and things like that.

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Speaker 5: So it's amazing. I think that for me, the takeaway

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Speaker 5: is always like as the diaspora, like wanting people to

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Speaker 5: you can be here, you can live here. I live here,

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Speaker 5: and it's it's just got.

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Speaker 4: All the things you need there. You have it, ladies

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Speaker 4: and gentlemen. That's all right, all right, Yeah, yes, we

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Speaker 4: are here EYL Live from.

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Speaker 3: Kenya Studio Travels, Nairobi, Kenya. We got a special guest

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Speaker 3: special episode Impromptu. We are with the legendary Calice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. He thank you for joining us, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: We spent so much time with you over the past

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Speaker 1: couple of days. It only made sense that let everybody

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Speaker 1: know what's happening here. So we are very appreciative for

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Speaker 1: you to be here today.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate being here. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, yes, So.

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Speaker 3: As I'm sure you've probably seen on social and from

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Speaker 3: the clip before this, that Colice is somebody that actually

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Speaker 3: moved full time from the United States of America to

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Speaker 3: Kenya a year and a half ago, and that's a

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Speaker 3: story within itself. But since then, you've purchased a bunch

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Speaker 3: of real estate, you own a lot of land, you

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Speaker 3: So there's a lot to talk about from an aspect

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Speaker 3: of moving. That's one conversation, but also from the real

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Speaker 3: for your land, all that type of stuff. So okay,

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Speaker 3: let's get into it. People know you obviously as a singer,

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Speaker 3: as a performer in the United States and all over

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Speaker 3: the world. It's surprising that you would move to Africa.

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Speaker 3: For a lot of people, what made you want to

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Speaker 5: Well, where do I even begin?

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Speaker 2: We left New York out of that whole thing, shout

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Speaker 5: I have a New York I mean, well, God again,

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Speaker 5: I think I own a farm in California. So I'm

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Speaker 4: And for me, just like, how'd you get into farming?

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Speaker 5: Well, I went to culinary school, I went to the

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Speaker 5: Court on Blue and I started cooking. And then for me,

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Speaker 5: just wanting to be able to control ingredients and what

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Speaker 5: I'm eating, and I'm a mom and so you know,

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Speaker 5: I just felt like I needed more education. So farming

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Speaker 5: became that like freedom, Like how do I make sure

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Speaker 5: culinary school, then farm. I fell in love with farming.

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Speaker 5: It was such a great experience, and then I really

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Speaker 5: all my neighbors. I would make bread, and especially COVID

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Speaker 5: So then it came into like, well, now I got

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Speaker 5: I was like, well, I need a nanny because I

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Speaker 1: How was it adaptation to being in Kenya? Obviously you

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Speaker 5: Was you send them money? So okay, So obviously you know,

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Speaker 5: That was definitely like my business manager in the states,

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Speaker 5: And then once you get that, then you can actually

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Speaker 1: We are today like, well, not that not too bad.

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Speaker 1: That's all the places. Yeah, compared to some other country.

435
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 1: Pretty bad that we heard, I don't mean, could be wrong.

436
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,959
Speaker 5: Well, I was like this is not this is terrible.

437
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 5: I felt like this is all I mean, so you

438
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,439
Speaker 5: can do it. It just feels to me, I just

439
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,199
Speaker 5: was you know, I'd rather get something smaller and know

440
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,199
Speaker 5: that I can just pay for it rather than you

441
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 5: know it just the interest rates were crazy. And then

442
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 5: also too because you're you're establishing, it's not as easy

443
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 5: when you're a foreigner, right because even here in Kenya,

444
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,119
Speaker 5: like even though I'm now a resident and I have

445
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 5: my work permit so I can do business and do

446
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 5: all these things, I'm not I'm not a citizen. So

447
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 5: it takes seven years to get your citizenship, so it's

448
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 5: just more complicated, like even with a loan and all

449
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 5: that price. Just like but you do have to open

450
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Speaker 5: up a bank account. I forgot to say that. You

451
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 5: have to open up a bank account here and you

452
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 5: have to transfer. I forgot. This is annoying, So you

453
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 5: do it. You have to transfer. I've actually forgot about this.

454
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 5: You have to put there's a number that they have

455
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 5: to put in a certain number amount of money in

456
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Speaker 5: the bank, and that's when they'll actually see if they

457
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 5: can clear. Because that's the thing, right, So if you're

458
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 5: coming here as an investor, they want to make sure

459
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Speaker 5: that you're actually investing. So you have to put money

460
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Speaker 5: in a Kenyan bank account and then they hold it

461
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 5: before any of the paperwork is done, before anything is done,

462
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 5: so you're kind of money you can't touch and you're

463
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,360
Speaker 5: just waiting. It's like one hundred gand twenty one hundredand

464
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 5: in the bank just to let it sit there, right,

465
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Speaker 5: So they want to legit, yes, that you're really here

466
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Speaker 5: to invest. And then it's also like then even once

467
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 5: you do it, you have to give them a plan

468
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Speaker 5: of like what you're going to do and kind of

469
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Speaker 5: like how many people are you going to employ and

470
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Speaker 5: they want to make sure you know things like that.

471
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Speaker 1: It feels like the process of being a credited investor

472
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Speaker 1: in the States. Yeah, in terms of pricing, because I

473
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: know that's something that people want to acquire about. You

474
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Speaker 1: had the advantage of having farming in California or having

475
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Speaker 1: a farm coming to Kenya. Looking at the pricing, how

476
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Speaker 1: is it comparable for acreage? I know you got one

477
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty, which is a lie and we got

478
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Speaker 1: the privilege of seeing it. How is pricing and how

479
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 1: did you navigate that? Understanding what would be a goodbye,

480
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Speaker 1: what wouldn't be okay?

481
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Speaker 5: So very different than the States. There's not like a

482
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Speaker 5: comp like it's not like you're doing comps like they

483
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 5: could care less, Like you could be like, hut here

484
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,159
Speaker 5: thirty million dollars here, no way, and they're looking at

485
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Speaker 5: you like what's your problem?

486
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Speaker 4: Right?

487
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 5: They don't care at all. So it's not like we're

488
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 5: you know, I could say this doesn't make sense for

489
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Speaker 5: like for this area or whatever. It doesn't really work

490
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 5: like that here. The value of land here is it's

491
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 5: just based on whatever the owner feels like it's worth. Right,

492
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Speaker 5: because even like I looked at this like beautiful tea farm.

493
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Speaker 5: And I was telling you, and they were like, we've

494
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 5: got great price for you, great price, and it was

495
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Speaker 5: like thirty million dollars and I was like shillings or

496
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 5: I'm like, you mean USD. They're like, no, lady, USD.

497
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Speaker 5: And I was like, yo, that's crazy, right, and then

498
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Speaker 5: like no, no, We'll give you a family price eighteen million.

499
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Speaker 5: And I was like not enough, Like you need to

500
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Speaker 5: go wait down and I think like and it was

501
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Speaker 5: a tea farm, and so I'm asking. I was like, okay,

502
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Speaker 5: well how much are you actually well, fine, you're producing tea.

503
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Speaker 5: I get it, okay, so how much you what's your

504
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Speaker 5: revenue a year? And it just did not make It

505
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 5: didn't add up at all, like at all. But for them,

506
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Speaker 5: it's like a lot of times the heritage land, which

507
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Speaker 5: I totally respect, I get that right. And if they

508
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Speaker 5: don't have to sell, then there's no motivation there, you

509
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 5: know what I mean. It's not like I think, it's

510
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 5: just a different system here, right, So you just have

511
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 5: to adjust to that. So there are deals one thousand percent.

512
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Speaker 5: You can absolutely find land that is comparable. I would

513
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Speaker 5: say some parts of California, and like I keep comparing

514
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 5: it to like Texas, right, like you can get great land.

515
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Speaker 4: I I heard like ten thousand an acre on it

516
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Speaker 4: is that.

517
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like it's good. Yeah. And then sometimes though,

518
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 5: like there might be land that's like ten thousand a plot,

519
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 5: but it'll be because it's like they really value the road, right,

520
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 5: so like it'll be like things that we don't really

521
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 5: think about, but like if it's close, they'll tell you

522
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Speaker 5: how close it is to the main road, and the

523
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 5: closer it is to the main road, the higher the

524
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Speaker 5: price will be. So I've seen plots that are like,

525
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 5: say you could go anywhere from like three hundred square meters,

526
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 5: which is like I guess the size you would like

527
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Speaker 5: build a house, right, And they'll be like it's ten

528
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 5: thousand dollars for that plot, which you're like, wait, I

529
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: just gilt buy a nigger for They're like yeah, but

530
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 5: not here, They're like, where's the road, yeah, exactly exactly.

531
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Speaker 1: One of the things that a lot of people, especially

532
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: we're from ignorance, is how profitable farming can be. Right,

533
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: you said, we went to a tea farm, we got

534
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: to see your farm, and we brought down the onion thing.

535
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Speaker 1: Talk about that and why people should really be looking

536
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Speaker 1: at this as a business opportunity.

537
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Speaker 5: Oh man, I mean like when you think about I

538
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 5: knew it had to be profitable because you see it

539
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 5: and you're like, these guys are doing it because it's

540
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Speaker 5: making money. But I didn't. I couldn't really wrap my

541
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Speaker 5: brain around it. But my lawyer again who's been super helpful,

542
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 5: he's a farmer, and he was like, I make way

543
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 5: more money farming. It's like this is a short fire.

544
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Speaker 5: So he started to break it down for me. When

545
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Speaker 5: I started to understand, Okay, it's like this is something

546
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Speaker 5: that especially here because I think it, Yeah, really I

547
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 5: think here like this is so much agriculture like opportunities here,

548
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 5: and I feel like the younger people are not doing

549
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 5: it as much that they need it right, and so like,

550
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Speaker 5: for example, the reason I decided to do onions is

551
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 5: because a lot of you know, they were getting like

552
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 5: a year ago, they were getting a lot of the

553
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Speaker 5: onions from Tanzania, and then recently they kind of banned

554
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 5: the onions from Tanzania. So it's like they need onion

555
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 5: farmers here. I was like, I can do that, right,

556
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 5: So things like that but for example, like you know,

557
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 5: after your costs, right, if you if you put in

558
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 5: five acres of onions, right and with everything, so you

559
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 5: got your with the exception of the borehole, which will

560
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 5: make your money back within the year. But say like

561
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 5: just all of your drip lines and all of that stuff,

562
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 5: right for five acres. If you once you spend all

563
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 5: that which is like say eleven thousand dollars, you can

564
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 5: make between let's say thirty conservatively to like thirty five

565
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 5: thousand dollars within let's say a quarter. Right, so at

566
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 5: minimum you have two harvests a year for only five acres.

567
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Speaker 5: That's a good you can live on that, right, it's

568
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: a good living. And then say you add another five acres,

569
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 5: like so it's it is actually extremely profitable. They're looking

570
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Speaker 5: for farmers. They want people to farm. It's such a

571
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 5: good opportunity, especially Kenya. Kenya has so much flat land,

572
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 5: you know, and it's great soil. This is Africa. Like

573
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 5: you throw a seed in the ground and stuff just grows,

574
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like literally, like it's amazing.

575
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 5: It takes. It doesn't take as much as we've ruined

576
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 5: our soil in the States, you know, and it took

577
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 5: me so much to I mean even thinking about that,

578
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 5: Like when I think about my farm in California, it

579
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 5: took me a year before I could plant anything because

580
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 5: the soil was so depleted and it was just so ruined.

581
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 5: Like I had to go through this whole process of

582
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 5: like fixing the soil just so I could grow stuff.

583
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 5: Whereas here it's like, I mean I could put anything

584
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 5: in the ground. You're like, oh, look it's a tree.

585
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 5: You should see my backyard right now, a little in

586
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: an apartment. My backyard is like a jungle I have,

587
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 5: but I ended up. I've been here a year, right,

588
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 5: so I've banana trees that are like literally like twenty

589
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 5: five feet tall, and like I had to cover them

590
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 5: to keep the monkeys from taking all the fruit. And

591
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 5: I mean it's amazing, you know. So it's just to

592
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 5: show the difference.

593
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Speaker 3: Like, so I was gonna ask you what is the

594
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: process that actually said, because buying land is one thing,

595
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: but having operational farms another that you gotta like have

596
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: an irrigation system, you gotta you know, I'm assuming, you

597
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 3: gotta plant the seeds, you gotta have people that's working it.

598
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: You gotta have pesticite control, perhaps you gotta put the fence.

599
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: Like I think people don't understand how complex farming. They

600
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: look at farming as something that's like especially people from cities, right,

601
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: as something that's like backwards or something that. But it's

602
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 3: like a lot of people don't associate technology with farming.

603
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: But that's like the first form of tech.

604
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 5: Absolutely. It is farming, absolutely, And like I said, it's

605
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: also real money, right, Like it's real money. And it's

606
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 5: also like when you think about like food safety and

607
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 5: just like no matter what's happening in the world, if

608
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 5: you're farming, you've got this. I mean honestly, like the

609
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: only thing that's gonna be could be the weather, right,

610
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 5: But even that, like there's there's safeties that you can,

611
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 5: you know, take to get around that. I mean, I

612
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 5: think like for me, like buying all this stuff, one

613
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 5: thing I have to say is that, like, especially in

614
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 5: the farming areas, people are people want to work. So

615
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 5: it wasn't even hard, Like I got an agronomous and

616
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 5: these are people would like full on like degrees in

617
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: agronomy and like farming stuff that I was just kind

618
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: of like fumbling through it, Like they really know what

619
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 5: to do, you know, and so I ended up I

620
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 5: ended up finding someone. It was very again, it's just random,

621
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 5: like because Naivasha specifically is a farm area. So like

622
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 5: my car broke down and I was talking to the

623
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 5: mechanic and then he was like, well, this is a

624
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 5: good this guy's a good agriculture like he's a horticulturre.

625
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 5: It's actually and I was like, okay, cool. And then

626
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: I talked to him and he was like I was like, well,

627
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 5: who can I have help me? Like really do this?

628
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 5: And he's like why no a guy? And I just

629
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 5: like what sapped him? And he was like, I'll be

630
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 5: there on Sunday. I was like great. But it's also

631
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: like you have to talk to people. You have to,

632
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 5: like some people are not gonna be as good.

633
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: You know.

634
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 5: You just got to kind of get out there. You

635
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: can't be afraid to speak to people and kind of

636
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 5: figure it out. It is something you have to learn, right,

637
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 5: Like I'm still learning, but it's totally doable. One thing

638
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: I will say to you different here than anywhere else.

639
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 5: And people are so willing to help. They're so well,

640
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 5: I mean they really are. There's like no dumb questions

641
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 5: because I asked tons of questions and they're just so

642
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 5: willing to help and they don't want you to mess up,

643
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. They're like, no, no, no,

644
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 5: that's terrible, don't do that, you know, and you're like, oh, okay, I.

645
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: Was going there because as you would talking and we

646
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: spent a few days together. I'm thinking, like, you're really

647
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: knowledgeable in this. So there's been an education process. But

648
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: even when we are with our drivers, they're knowledgeable about everything.

649
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: And how has the impact that the locals had on

650
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: the process of you saying all right, I've got this acreage,

651
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: I want to add more.

652
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: They gave me some ideas. I'm going to add this. Wait,

653
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: how do I power this? This might be a new idea.

654
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: How much is the impact you had on.

655
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 5: You so much? I mean, when you think about even

656
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 5: moving to a place where it's like the people, That's

657
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 5: one of the first things that I fell in love

658
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 5: with here was the people, and like these people are

659
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: loving and care and they care and it's just from

660
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 5: the top to the bottom, Like you could be in

661
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 5: the mall bump someone and just how that interaction goes,

662
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 5: you know, to really needing someone to be like I

663
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 5: need help. I don't know how to do this. Help me,

664
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 5: do you know what I mean? Like, it's just so

665
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 5: it's so different culturally, I think from that perspective, it's

666
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 5: like welcoming, right, it's warm, and I think too, like

667
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 5: what I really appreciate and what's made this so feasible

668
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 5: is that there is a process. Even if it takes

669
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: a long time, it's the same. They'll be like, no,

670
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 5: this is what you have to do. You've got to

671
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: do this. And so when everyone keeps giving me the

672
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 5: same answer, you're like, okay, you know you're not being

673
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 5: taken for a ride. It's like, this is how you

674
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: have to do it. And so then it becomes like,

675
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: all right, well this is the way to do it.

676
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 5: This is how we do it, and they, like I said,

677
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 5: what you don't know? People will help and even you know,

678
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 5: I'll talk to random people. They're like did you plant this?

679
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 5: And are you putting this around it? And oh no, no, no, sister,

680
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 5: you got to put baking soda. And I was like,

681
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 5: I did hear that. They're like yeah, yea, yeah, I

682
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 5: put baking soda. If you don't let those but you know,

683
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 5: little things like that and you're just like, oh okay,

684
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 5: but they're always willing to help. So it makes something

685
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 5: that could feel really daunting and new, it makes it

686
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 5: easier because it's not like it doesn't feel like crabs

687
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 5: in a barrow where everyone's just like, you know, fighting

688
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 5: to win. It's like they're like, we're farren't we farm?

689
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: It happens you you can't drive up a road and

690
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: can you not see some sort of someone selling some

691
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 5: fruit or vegetables or something, right, Like, there's so many

692
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: things people are just they're farmers and so it's great,

693
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: like you learn a lot just by regular conversations.

694
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: I feel like, so, what's the hardest part of farming? Right,

695
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 3: even from you learning in America to now having a

696
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: farm and can like what is the heart dealing with droughts,

697
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: keeping animals off your font? Like, what's the hardest part

698
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: that you had to figure out?

699
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: I think I keep saying that, Like my farm in

700
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 5: California was like my like training ground for this, right

701
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 5: because it was smaller and I had major pasts there too,

702
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 5: So like it's just figuring out, like, Okay, what am

703
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 5: I dealing with here? I think water has been a challenge,

704
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: like the no rain is great, it rains so much here.

705
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 5: I think getting like the borehole says like that system is.

706
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: So what is that?

707
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 5: So borehole is like, well, right, so it's it's basically

708
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 5: they're digging into the ground and well, first you have

709
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 5: to get like a water analysis to see if there

710
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: actually is water there, right, So you'll pay someone to come.

711
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: Then you need a geologist to check and make sure

712
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: like see what the rock situation is. And a lot

713
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 5: of people will say, oh, you don't need that. I

714
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 5: did it because I just was like I need to know,

715
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: like what's happening. It is an extra cost obviously, but

716
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: you need to check like if there's water there, and

717
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 5: then you need to have someone come. And what I

718
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 5: learned was someone will tell you like they can do

719
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 5: it for cheaper, but you don't really necessarily want that

720
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 5: because then your borehole is going to break down. And

721
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: so essentially there they come, they check the water, and

722
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: then they have to dig down between two hundred and

723
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: three hundred meters and then they put the casing in there,

724
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: and then you've got this pump that's gonna bring the

725
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 5: water up. It's like a well, yeah, it's like a

726
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 5: smaller well essentially.

727
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: And it pumps up, but what is the purpose of

728
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: that to keep the crops.

729
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 5: It wills to irrigate. And also because even if you're

730
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: gonna build a house there, you can need water, right

731
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: because a lot of the land that you're gonna buy

732
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 5: is rule right, so there's been nothing there before, so

733
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: you need to make sure because a lot of land

734
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: like there was. I was about to sign papers on

735
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 5: this other land and then I and the guy was like,

736
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: you should just check. And that's when I was like,

737
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna do the jelige, but the guys you

738
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: should just do it, and it's okay. I was gonna

739
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 5: keep doing it for all the land. I ended up

740
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 5: doing it. And he's like, there are these massive boulders

741
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 5: up to seven meters down, So my farming would.

742
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: Have been how much water is under it? Like does it?

743
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: It just depends?

744
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: Right?

745
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 5: So like for me, right now, that first borehole that

746
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 5: we saw that we just dug pulls up. It's like

747
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: ten point four cubic feet of water whatever every day, right,

748
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 5: So that's so then that's how we did the mask.

749
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 5: And then I know they said that that amount of

750
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 5: water if you're continually getting that can cover up to

751
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: maybe ten acres. Me wanting to be on the safe side,

752
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 5: I decided to do five, right, and then I'll put

753
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: another borehole so I know that no matter what, we'll

754
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: have water. But that's also solar. So then you have

755
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: to figure outf you're gonna get a generator or if

756
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 5: you're going to hook into Kenya power, which is also

757
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 5: an option.

758
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

759
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: One of the things we kind of like breezed over

760
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: was the animals, and you know we grow up at farms,

761
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: is like, hey, hopefully these groundhogs don't eat this, or

762
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 1: the birds don't eat it.

763
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: You have a whole different set of animals zebras.

764
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: How is that navigating that and making sure that they're

765
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: protected because it was their land?

766
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

767
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I think the thing that I've learned so much

768
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: about being here too, and it's funny actually even being

769
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: in California, is that there is a way and people

770
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 5: have been doing it for millennia. Right, there's a way

771
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 5: to farm and not completely like ruined the ecosystm, but

772
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: become a part of it. Right, And so like I

773
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 5: keep using this reference, I just think it's such a

774
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 5: good thing for farmers, like there was a movie called

775
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 5: Biggest Little Farm, and it just showed me so much,

776
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: right like, and it was basically this La couple and

777
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 5: I had to go and get this farm up in

778
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 5: northern California and like all the stuff that they combated.

779
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 5: And I watched that movie right before I bought my

780
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 5: farm in California, right and then I get to my

781
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 5: farm in California and I'm fighting rabbits and gophers and

782
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 5: They're annihilating me, like they're digging me out. It was

783
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: so bad, right, So then I had to figure that out.

784
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 5: So I came out here and yeah, there's a whole

785
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 5: different thing of animals. But the funny thing is what

786
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: we were out there camping and I just I saw

787
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 5: these massive rabbits and I was like, oh my god,

788
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 5: not rabbits. There's like my ark and my kids are like, mom,

789
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 5: you literally selling like the guy from Peter Rabbit. Here's

790
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, get the rabbits, you know. But it's you

791
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: figure it out, and it's the same kind of like

792
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 5: you know, I put up the fence more so so

793
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: that because you know a lot of times you find

794
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: that like if you don't have a fence yet, it

795
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 5: seems like, oh, this is all wonderful and nice, but

796
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 5: like you're putting good this is real money we're investing here, right,

797
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 5: Like I've invested real money into this farming. And as

798
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: much as I love the elephants that I want to

799
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 5: make a space for them, I also need a space too, right,

800
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 5: So I can't have them trampling through my farm, right,

801
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 5: And so we make a space for them right here, right,

802
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 5: And it's like you can go around it. It's like,

803
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 5: you know what, I think, that's that's kind of the

804
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: reality of it. It's like you can do it in

805
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 5: a way where it's benefiting the area. And so I'm

806
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 5: actually organic farming, so we're not using pesticides and using

807
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 5: all natural ways for pest control and all things like that,

808
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: so that it continues to keep the water supply good.

809
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 5: We're going to put a watering holes that we have

810
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 5: that so the animal because there is no water in

811
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 5: that area, so the animals actually can come and drink

812
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 5: water there. So even though I've got this fence up

813
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: where I don't want them to trample my crops, We're

814
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: planting trees and all kinds of flower and funnel where

815
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 5: they actually which will benefit the area and benefit them

816
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 5: and the weather and everything there. Right, So it's you've

817
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: got to know where you're at, and it takes a

818
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 5: little time to kind of figure out what you're combating,

819
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: and then yeah, you got to put your money where

820
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 5: your routthers and you've got to make it work, right,

821
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 5: And that's that's what I'm doing.

822
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: So you spoke to me about like how you didn't

823
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: feel comfortable like putting your money anyway a where it

824
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: wasn't like a black country, right, Like talk about that,

825
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: like just that mindset of like why am I continuously

826
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: investing in Western society when I can help build Africa?

827
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: I mean it's really simple, right, Like I'm American. I'm

828
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 5: proud of that. It is what it is, right, I

829
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 5: never take that from anybody. That's what we are. It's

830
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: at the stage right now where it's like if I'm

831
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 5: continually investing in a place that doesn't make space for me,

832
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 5: it just doesn't to me, Like it's not good business.

833
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: It's just not right even if I still live there.

834
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: If I'm gonna put my hard earned money somewhere, I

835
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: want to put it someplace where I can actually see

836
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 5: it grow and I can actually see a benefit, right,

837
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 5: Like I can do things here on the continent that

838
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 5: I can't do in the States, right, and even like

839
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 5: when I think about money going longer, right, and like

840
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 5: I can actually make a real impact here with just

841
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 5: being here, right and my time, my money, my energy.

842
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: I think about my education, my worldliness, the things that

843
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: I've learned anywhere where I go. I like to think

844
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 5: that if I'm not benefiting, I shouldn't be there, right,

845
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 5: And so I genuinely feel that way, and being here,

846
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, I want to be of use, you know

847
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: what I mean? Like I want to be It's not

848
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 5: about charity. It's about like being part of a culture

849
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 5: and part of a community, you know what I'm saying,

850
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 5: Like nobody wants charity. It's about like, Yo, I'm here,

851
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 5: how can I be of use? Like put me to work?

852
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 5: Like what can I do? You know what I'm saying. So,

853
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 5: whether it's farming or just showing people that I'm here

854
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: and that you can invest and make businesses. I'm building

855
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 5: a resort on my property like that, to me is

856
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 5: what makes the most sense. I look at my kids.

857
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 5: I've got these beautiful black kids, and I put so

858
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: much energy and time and money and schooling into them,

859
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: and then I'm gonna give them to a nation just because, like,

860
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: shit on, it just makes no sense to me. You

861
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, that's my most valuable possession are

862
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: these kids. And then I'm gonna just be like okay,

863
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 5: hope you make it, like do you know what I mean?

864
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 5: Just like why you know? And then I have to

865
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: worry about them getting shot or getting arrested or them

866
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 5: It's just like and not that things don't happen everywhere,

867
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 5: because they do, and that's you know, we're being realistic.

868
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 5: But if we can just take that out of the equation,

869
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 5: that when I walk into a place, they're not immediately

870
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 5: hating my bloodline and my lineage and everything that I

871
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 5: come from, everything that I stand for, Like that's worth

872
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 5: its weight in gold to me, you know what I'm saying,

873
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 5: Like I want to I think in this error right now,

874
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 5: forget the racial thing, just for when you think about

875
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 5: just like financial, what's the smartest move, it's the continent

876
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: without a doubt, Like, first of all, it looks like

877
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 5: esp I use Kenya as an example re because I

878
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 5: was living in California. When you look at like the

879
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 5: frontier right when people were like migrating from the East

880
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: coast to the west coast for the gold rush and

881
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: for mining and stuff. Right, that's what Kenya is like

882
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: right now. This place is so it's prepared, the foundation

883
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 5: has been late. It's ready to rock like it can

884
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 5: be a Really it's already an amazing nation. But if

885
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 5: we took the diasthora, if we put our money in

886
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 5: nations like this, it's unstoppable. Why are we putting all

887
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: our education and all of our time and all of

888
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 5: our energy and all of our money into a place

889
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 5: it doesn't have anything for us? You know what I'm

890
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 5: saying that for me to get I have to fight

891
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: for a loan in the States. Why I make enough money?

892
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: Like it's dumb, you know what I mean. I'm like,

893
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 5: look how much money I make and they're like, ah,

894
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: well you need blood. I'm like, this is crazy. I'm like,

895
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 5: this is dumb. You know what I'm saying. I'm I've

896
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 5: been making money for twenty five years, like real money.

897
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 5: Why am I fighting for chump change in dumb interestries?

898
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: It just makes no sense to me. I'd rather take

899
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: the cast that I have and build it where I

900
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 5: know I can actually grow it, you know what I'm saying,

901
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 5: Like I can make real money here. And we talk

902
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 5: about real legacy, right, whether it's politics or business or whatever.

903
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 5: It is like these nations are ready. And a lot

904
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 5: of times when you look at a place like Kenya,

905
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 5: where like it was colonized, right, and so like when

906
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 5: the white colonization, when that hand gets lifted, they're kind

907
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: of just left right and everyone's fending for themselves. And

908
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 5: I'm like, we've been in the same position, you know

909
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, But like, come here, it's the same.

910
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 5: It's kind of it's like the same poison, different result almost,

911
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 5: you know what It's like, Come out here, put your

912
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: money here, and if you don't want to live here,

913
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 5: put your money here instead of investing in things that

914
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 5: there's a cap. There's a cap on our ceiling and

915
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 5: everyone's acting like it's not there, and it is. And

916
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 5: America is a little bit better than say Europe or whatever,

917
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 5: but like this is the future. Africa is our history

918
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 5: and it's our future. So to me, it's like it

919
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 5: makes the most sense to come and put our energy,

920
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: our intellect, our education, our time here.

921
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was part of the conversation we were happening yesterday,

922
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: it was like, I'm so happy that you're doing it

923
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: so that people can see it, and I'm glad that

924
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: we're being able to document it.

925
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: You kind of.

926
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: Alluded to it a little bit just before about your

927
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: future plants for the land. Yes, it's farming, but it's

928
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: so much more. Talk about the resort, talk about the architecture,

929
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: the design, the purpose of it, where you're going with it.

930
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: So I'm so excited about it. I was looking for

931
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: well First of all, I've been on tour for the

932
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 5: past twenty five years, right, so I've been in every hotel,

933
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 5: every five star resort, SPA, like you name it. I've

934
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 5: been up in it, right, And I was just like

935
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 5: anyone knows a hotel. I know a hotel, I know

936
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: a resort, I know a retreat. I know what I love,

937
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 5: I know what luxury looks like. And when I came

938
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 5: out here and I was like, Yo, this place is paradise,

939
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 5: Like it's so beautiful and I found my land. I

940
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: was like, I want to do a wellness retreat like

941
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: I want to do like a place where it's just

942
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 5: black and luxurious and fabulous, and for me. Like I

943
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 5: was looking at like, you know, the amount of hotels

944
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 5: that are black owned, like at the level that I'm

945
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 5: talking about and just around the world, and there's not

946
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 5: that many. It's like a handful. And I feel like

947
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 5: the reason I was traveling around East Africa and I

948
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 5: kept traveling, I've been acquiring land throughout East Africa because

949
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 5: I want to be like a hotel group of just luxury,

950
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 5: a black brand of just fabulousness. And like that's why

951
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 5: I've got Rhonda and you know, Tanzania and Kenya, and

952
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: I feel like the dash really needs a place to go, right,

953
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 5: Like it's one thing to like, you know, call to action,

954
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 5: but like where do we stay while we're acting? You

955
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like where are we eating? What

956
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 5: are we doing? Like you know, where are we decompressing

957
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: and kind of all that stuff and so on a

958
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: small field, I want to start there, Like that's the

959
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 5: plan is to do this like wellness retreat of like

960
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: food is medicine. I'm a chef by trade and a

961
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 5: farmer now and so yeah, wanting to be able to

962
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 5: make food. That's like we don't talk about it enough

963
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 5: in our culture. Right you look at like Black Americans

964
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: and we've got it's like the highest rate of diabetes

965
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 5: or women are It's just like all these issues, right,

966
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 5: which doesn't really make any sense. We're like, why is

967
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: this happening? You know, like we all live in the

968
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 5: same country. What's going on here? And we don't talk

969
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: about wellness and health as black people enough? Right, And

970
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 5: so I went to Cornell and I got my after

971
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 5: I went to the corner, but I went and I

972
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: got my herbalis and ethnobotany certification. So I'm official. So

973
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 5: that way I can start to talk about like our

974
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 5: health and wellness. So it's one thing to have money,

975
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 5: but how we're going to live along with our money, right,

976
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 5: So it's like that's all part of it, right, Like

977
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 5: I want to live well and it's about a sustainable

978
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: level of like lifestyle, right, Like what does that really

979
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 5: look like? And so that's what the whole like, that's

980
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 5: what the retreat is about. Like come, eat good, eat purposefully, relax.

981
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 5: Look at the giraftes off.

982
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: I want to tell you about the geothermal technology that

983
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: potentially could being changes the game.

984
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 5: Absolutely. One of the things that's really dope about Kenya

985
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 5: also is the fact that they are so aware and

986
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: so ahead of the game as far as like sustainable

987
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 5: and clean energy, and so a lot of mostly even

988
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 5: my apartment building is all solar generated and it's a

989
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 5: big apartment building. But where the property is, it's right

990
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 5: at the base of Mount Longan, not which is where

991
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 5: the geothermal Like they have a whole geothermal plant. And

992
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 5: so the next step is to see if we can

993
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 5: power the entire property with geothermal energy, which is just

994
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 5: clean and sustainable. And yeah, so.

995
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 3: And then was also you had mentioned as far as

996
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: the farm land, right, you're going to open up opportunities

997
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: for people to invest.

998
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 5: Absolutely. So since I've been out here, I get so

999
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: many messages about people like hey, how do I do this?

1000
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 5: And like it can be overwhelming, right, like it's a lot.

1001
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 5: And so I thought about I really when I started

1002
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: doing the numbers, and I was like, oh, okay, well

1003
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 5: I only need if I were to say I broke

1004
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 5: up five acres and I've got obviously I have all

1005
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 5: this land, right, I've got five acres where we can start.

1006
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 5: I only need for ten acres, I need one hundred

1007
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 5: and thirty people, right, So if I have one hundred

1008
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 5: and thirty people that would want to invest and I

1009
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 5: can farm it for them, right, Because my girlfriend called me,

1010
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 5: She's like, well, if I'm a land girl, will you

1011
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 5: farm it for me? And I was like okay, I

1012
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 5: had to think. I was, let me get back to you,

1013
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 5: let me figure out what that would really take and

1014
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: what would really cost, and like could I really do

1015
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 5: it before I say yes? And I did the numbers

1016
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, actually, I could totally do

1017
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 5: this and this is and if I do it this way,

1018
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 5: I can do it. So it's a really small investment

1019
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 5: for people. So say, you know, if you do it

1020
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 5: right now, for like I said, if I have ten

1021
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 5: acres and I do it at it would be like

1022
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 5: thirteen hundred dollars per person. I need one hundred and

1023
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 5: thirty people for the year. By the end of that

1024
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 5: year they would be farming, and then after that year

1025
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 5: they start making money. So then it's also because you

1026
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 5: have I'll hire more people, so you'll be hiring more people.

1027
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: You'd be paying people here in Kenya to farm for you, right,

1028
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: and then you're actually being part of the community, even

1029
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 5: if you're not ready to come out here yourself. But

1030
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: it's actually financially feasible. I'm trying to make it so

1031
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 5: you can actually try to co op. It's like a

1032
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 5: cop Yeah, it's called we farm.

1033
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: So you pay thirteen hundred dollars. The first year is

1034
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: just like a setup fee. Yeah, and then year two

1035
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: you start to see some money, you'll start to spay.

1036
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: You guy to pay thirteen hundred dollars every year.

1037
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 5: No, so you won't have to give money again. And

1038
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 5: even so the water and the salaries and things like

1039
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 5: that will come off the top of your dividends. But

1040
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: you won't have to give.

1041
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: Me any more money one time payment, thirty time.

1042
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 5: Payment unless you want to do a larger plot, so

1043
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 5: it'll be it's like three hundred square meters, which, like

1044
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 5: I said, is like the size of a house, like

1045
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 5: if you're building a house.

1046
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: One of the things we deal with, obviously in America

1047
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: is taxes and property tax How does that work having

1048
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: a farm in Kenya and throughout East Africa.

1049
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: So every country is different. Obviously, the taxes here are

1050
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 5: a little less than the States, so they're like, you know,

1051
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 5: it was like twenty percent or something like that. But

1052
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it's like it's like anything else you

1053
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 5: got to pay taxes, right, you do it, but it's

1054
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 5: you know, it's doable, and it's all legit and you

1055
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 5: can see it, and that's what you get your carry,

1056
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 5: you know your pin number, and you just kind of

1057
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: start to do business like that. I think the other

1058
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 5: thing is when you start hiring people here, like there

1059
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 5: are cuts and things like that because they want you

1060
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 5: to hire locals, and so that's been a big incentive

1061
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 5: just to yeah, you.

1062
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: Know, because I'm thinking in terms of benefits, right, everything

1063
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: you're doing here is clean obviously there when we have

1064
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: clean energy or we get an ev there's rebates.

1065
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: And there's discounts. But doing that similar similar even.

1066
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 5: And I was talking to a friend earlier about it,

1067
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 5: really just talking about like even if you plant trees, right,

1068
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 5: so you get like carbon credits and so like every

1069
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: little thing counts, right, so things like that. So with

1070
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 5: a property in my size, like we're gonna be planting

1071
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 5: tons of trees, right, so you can you let them

1072
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: know what you've planted. Then you get carbon credits towards

1073
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 5: what you know, which is just another tax break, which

1074
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 5: is great. So things like that do exist, and it's

1075
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: just about getting in there and figuring out like Okay, well,

1076
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 5: how many people am I hiring? What is it going

1077
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 5: to cost me? How many dependents do I have, you know,

1078
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: versus like Americans that are coming in here and working

1079
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 5: with its family or whatever kind of all those you

1080
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 5: break that down. But it's doable, and it's I personally

1081
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 5: it's easier than the States to be from that perspective.

1082
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: For you still have to pay tax in America too,

1083
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: for money I make in America. Yeah, not for money

1084
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: you make here.

1085
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: No.

1086
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: So from an aspect of people that's looking to move

1087
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: to Africa in any country, there's a few things.

1088
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: Right, let's let's go through it. Schooling Yep, that's a

1089
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 4: big thing.

1090
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 3: You have three children that are young, right, one teenager

1091
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: and then two younger children. Talk about your experience with

1092
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: bringing children out here and interrupting their schooling, interrupting their

1093
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: social circle that they already had, enrolling them into a

1094
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 3: new social construct and school.

1095
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 5: Okay, well, I may not be the best person for

1096
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 5: the conversation. I'm not big on the.

1097
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: System to begin with, right, So school system I am not.

1098
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 5: I just never felt like it served us, and so

1099
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 5: for me, I was always it was always adverse for me.

1100
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 5: My kids have been on tour with me since they

1101
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 5: were born, so my system has been a little bit different.

1102
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 5: What I will say though, in Nairobi specifically, there are

1103
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 5: great schools, like there are great schools, and I know

1104
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 5: this really just because my neighborhood, like where my kids

1105
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: where we live. My kids who I set free every

1106
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 5: day and they just go and run wild with all

1107
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 5: their little friends. They all go to schools in the

1108
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 5: neighborhood and they're just bright and smart kids and they're

1109
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 5: all it's like it feels like America in the sense

1110
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 5: where like no one's behind.

1111
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: They're actually your kids at homeschool.

1112
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: My kids are homeschool.

1113
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 3: But that's a conversation too, because a lot of people

1114
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 3: in America want to start the homeschool process.

1115
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 4: They similar to that.

1116
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: But so that's interesting because you tak one of your

1117
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: children is getting homeschool by artificial intelligence.

1118
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: How's that working out? Well?

1119
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 5: I was skeptical at first, but my older kid was

1120
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 5: in such a good program and it didn't start at

1121
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 5: the age that my son is at, so I needed

1122
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 5: to find something that I thought was comparable, and it's amazing. Honestly.

1123
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 5: What's great about it is that the AI system it's

1124
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 5: a new system. It's called Fusion Academy, but basically it's

1125
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: a new system, and it's it adjusts to according to

1126
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 5: like what he's learning and what stage he's at. So

1127
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 5: it's never just like brushing past something and be like, Okay,

1128
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 5: we got to get to the next stage. It's not

1129
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: rushing him into anything. So if he's excelling in writing

1130
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 5: or reading, he could be in fifth grade even though

1131
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 5: he's should be at a third or fourth grade level, right,

1132
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 5: so it's not holding him back. It's accredited. And then

1133
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: it makes it so that we can travel and I

1134
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 5: can move, and I can they can see the world,

1135
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 5: and to me, it's been the most amazing education my

1136
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 5: kids have been. Their passports are crazy, right, Like their

1137
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 5: passports will rival anybody. They've been all over the world.

1138
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 5: I can dip out to Thailand, I can go to

1139
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 5: you know, like South Africa, I can go to Egypt. Like,

1140
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 5: we can do whatever we want and it doesn't ever

1141
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: interrupt their schooling. To me, homeschooling.

1142
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 7: Is two hours a day, which really if you look

1143
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 7: at real school, like the kids are in school doing

1144
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 7: now for most of the day, it's like recess and

1145
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 7: playing and it's like, what is happening here?

1146
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: I was a teacher for fourteen years, right, A lot

1147
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: of time is wasted, though.

1148
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: A lot of time is wasted.

1149
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true, it's true.

1150
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: Education is important.

1151
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: I'm glad you both spoke about homeschool and the other

1152
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: thing that's important when people want to move is healthcare.

1153
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: And I think people really don't understand how powerful Kenya

1154
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: is in the role that they play, especially on the

1155
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: continent in healthcare. Give some information about the level of

1156
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: excellence that is provided here.

1157
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm so glad you brought that up, actually, because

1158
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 5: I didn't really understand it. And we have such a

1159
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 5: negative connotation to the continent that we were like, so

1160
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 5: we've we've been so fearmongered, right, So just to put

1161
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 5: it in perspective. Okay, So again, my lawyer who's out here,

1162
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 5: he is a very successful dislike he's great. You actually

1163
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 5: should meet him. He's really fantastic. But he's great. But

1164
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 5: he was telling me that his mother or grandmother got

1165
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: very ill and they were terrified, so they brought them

1166
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 5: to the States to get all the meta help that

1167
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 5: she needed. He said, when he brought her back, he

1168
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 5: was so appalled because he was like, the mount the

1169
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 5: amount of money that he spent, the effort bringing this

1170
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 5: woman back and forth was already ill. He was like,

1171
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 5: when he went to the doctors here, they were gonna

1172
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 5: do the exact same thing, and she ended up doing

1173
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: the second round of chemo and everything here, he said,

1174
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 5: it was exactly the same. Their facilities are exactly the same.

1175
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 5: Since I've been here, I've had an MRI. My sister

1176
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 5: actually is having surgery this week. My cameraman had a

1177
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 5: root canal. Like literally, the Kenya has some of the

1178
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 5: best healthcare. It's cheap, it's great that doctors are fantastic.

1179
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 5: It's different, like for me to walk into every hospital

1180
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 5: office and talk to a black person who's gonna talk

1181
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 5: to me and not talk to me like I'm stupid.

1182
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 5: I've had more diagrams driven like drawn for you, like

1183
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 5: they're like, let me draw it for you, gona let

1184
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: me help you out because you're not good like it's

1185
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 5: been so it's just there's a sense of peace and

1186
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 5: it's it's actually like it's really good healthcare and quite frankly,

1187
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 5: around the continent, people travel to Kenya and South Africa.

1188
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 5: That's what I keep hearing everyone's going is how they're

1189
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 5: ever or Kenya to get healthcare. So Kenya has really

1190
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 5: good health care and it's like really affordable, like my

1191
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 5: MRI costs. I think it was like forty bucks. So

1192
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: you have health insurance, no, I pad by, it's so cheap.

1193
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 5: You can get health insurance here. You can get it here,

1194
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 5: it exists. It's so cheap though, Like when my cameraman

1195
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 5: got his ROUC canal, he said it was like a

1196
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 5: full root canal. They did the X rays, like the

1197
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: whole thing. The office is really nice. I think what

1198
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 5: he said it was like two hundred bucks.

1199
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Speaker 3: That's that's a different just because most of Americas are

1200
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: not used to just paying a doctor, right, they used

1201
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: to paying health insurance. But we know how expensive that

1202
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: can be.

1203
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 5: Well, the other thing is like I can text the

1204
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 5: doctor and be like hey an he answers and they

1205
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 5: answer like and there's just a certain sense of like

1206
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 5: pride and like I think a lot of times I

1207
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 5: feel like in the States everyone's so kind of jaded

1208
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 5: and you know what I mean, like just they don't

1209
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 5: care anymore. Here I feel like there's such a sense

1210
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 5: of pride, Like these are like I'm Kenyan, I'm a

1211
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 5: doctor and I will help you.

1212
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: And who was telling us about when I think it

1213
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: might have been in Riwanda what they were saying, like

1214
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: the doctor come to your house.

1215
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 5: Literally, I've had doctors come to the house like for sure,

1216
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: like when my little one had a fever, like and

1217
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 5: they're just glad and happy and like it's just a

1218
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: different it's so different. But health career is actually really good.

1219
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 5: And I was like, I was skeptical just because of

1220
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 5: what I'd heard just nonsense about Africa, right, and you're like,

1221
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 5: what are you gonna get?

1222
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: And it's legit, Well, another misnormal when it comes to Africa,

1223
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: like even when we started spending a lot of time

1224
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: going to Gone and stuff like that.

1225
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 4: It's starting to break now.

1226
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: But for a long time, people in America, right black Americans,

1227
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: they were like, well, they don't want you in Africa.

1228
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: They're not going to treat you well, you're not going

1229
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: to You're not you're going to be accepted as that,

1230
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna be treated like an outsider. That's a an

1231
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 3: ideology that has permeated throughout America different parts of the world.

1232
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 4: How has that been for you?

1233
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 5: I'll be honest. First of all, Kenya to me, I

1234
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 5: feel like out of a lot of the countries is

1235
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 5: and Ghana, I will they actually are the most welcoming

1236
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: fact where like gen no real genuinely it's true where

1237
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 5: they're well. But there's a reason though, right, It's because

1238
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 5: they know, they're aware, so they understand the history. Like

1239
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 5: you'll go to certain countries and they're like, we don't

1240
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: know what you're talking about, slave to whom? And why

1241
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 5: and where? And why should I care? And I don't

1242
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 5: know what you're talking about?

1243
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1244
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 5: I think as Americans, we assume that everyone knows our

1245
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 5: history and they don't, right, and it's not their fault,

1246
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 5: like they weren't taught our history. So while we walk

1247
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 5: around with this like chip on our shoulder, like this

1248
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 5: has been terrible and you guys should know that it's

1249
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 5: been terrible. And I'm here because I don't love word,

1250
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 5: you know, and they're looking at you like what is

1251
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: that chip? What is that about? Right?

1252
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 4: So that has happened in America and they don't know

1253
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: the history with Africa.

1254
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 5: They have no idea and that all they see is

1255
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 5: TV and they see us rolling right, and they see

1256
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 5: us ball and they're like, why are you mad? What

1257
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: are you mad about? The first time I came to

1258
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 5: the continent, I was about seventeen and I was in

1259
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 5: Zimbabwe and I was spending three months there, and they

1260
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 5: kept saying they were like the angry the angry American girl.

1261
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 5: They didn't even consider me black, and they're like, she's pissed, right,

1262
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 5: And it was like such a weird It was such

1263
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 5: a strange exchange me. I'm like, this is so crazy

1264
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 5: because I'm nothing but black. In America, it would nobody

1265
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 5: cares what you're mixed with. Nobody cares, right, you were black,

1266
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 5: that's it. So I've been black my whole life, so

1267
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 5: it didn't make any difference to me till you come

1268
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 5: out here and they're like in South Africa, we're in Zimbabe,

1269
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 5: like you're a goffle, or you're a mazoong gu, or

1270
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 5: you're a colored or you're all these other things. Right,

1271
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 5: most of the time, it comes from just not knowing,

1272
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 5: And this is your opportunity to let them know. You

1273
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like, I don't walk around with

1274
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 5: the chip on my shoulder. I am American. I'm very,

1275
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 5: very profoundly aware of our struggle, but I also understand that,

1276
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 5: like their perspective is so different, right, They're like a

1277
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 5: lot of times you talk to people and like they're

1278
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 5: on their land. This is like this is their grandma's

1279
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 5: land and their grandpa and then they're great and they've

1280
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 5: been on this land forever. So they look at you

1281
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 5: and they're like, yo, what's your beef? Why are Americans

1282
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 5: so mad?

1283
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 4: You know?

1284
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 5: And they have no idea. And then also they look

1285
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 5: at it like the same lie that we've been told,

1286
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 5: like how we subpar here. They've been told that America

1287
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 5: is the land of dreams and that we're all living

1288
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 5: it up in it. Everybody's just rolling in dough and

1289
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 5: popping champagne all day. So we've got this massive disconnect

1290
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 5: about who we actually are, you know, And so you

1291
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 5: can't really it's like we don't know, they don't know.

1292
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 5: Somebody's gotta let everybody know, right.

1293
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: I think that's why it is so important that you're here, yeah,

1294
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: and that we're having this conversation because it sheds light

1295
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: it changes narrative. Obviously, you've had an amazing music career,

1296
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: but do you feel the magnitude or the importance of

1297
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: what you're now doing in Kenya in terms of business

1298
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: and farming and infrastructure. Do you feel the weight of

1299
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: that or it's just like, you know what, I'm kind

1300
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: of living in my purpose.

1301
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 5: I think both. Yeah. Like I came out here again,

1302
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 5: not with some grandiose like idea. I started documenting it

1303
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: because every time I went anywhere, I was like shocked,

1304
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 5: and then I felt dumb. I was like, I've traveled

1305
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 5: so much, Like why do I feel so ignorant? Like

1306
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 5: this is crazy? Right, I've been around the world. Why

1307
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 5: does this feel so new? And I just I would

1308
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 5: like film this. I'm like, you got this is beautiful,

1309
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 5: this is amazing, or this is delicious, or look at

1310
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 5: this lady's outfit or whatever it was. I would be like,

1311
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 5: just I wanted people to see it. I was in

1312
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 5: shock and in awe, and I felt like if I was,

1313
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: then the rest of my people didn't know, right, Like

1314
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, how did I not know this? Right?

1315
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: Like?

1316
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: How did I not see this? So I didn't come

1317
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 5: out here like I'm going to show everybody like you. Yeah,

1318
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 5: it was so it couldn't be further from that. It

1319
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 5: was just me trying to figure my own shit out.

1320
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 5: But once I got here and then and then Kenyan

1321
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 5: specifically loved TikTok so, like people were coming up to

1322
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 5: me and they're like, yo, I saw what you're doing

1323
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 5: on TikTok. I love it. And that's when I started

1324
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 5: to realize that people were even caring because I'm I'm

1325
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 5: a Black American. I think in Black American terms, I'm

1326
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 5: always thinking about my folks back home, right, I'm like,

1327
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 5: I want to show my people, like, oh, what's happening right,

1328
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 5: And like it wasn't until Kenyan's and Rondon's and Zambians

1329
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 5: and people were like, yo, we love what you're doing,

1330
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 5: Like I see this. This is so good people.

1331
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1332
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 5: That's when I was like, oh shit, this is like

1333
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 5: a real thing. I'm like, okay, this is like a responsibility.

1334
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 5: Like it didn't hit until it hit, you know.

1335
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 3: So from a travel standpoint, you've been all over the continent.

1336
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: What's your top five places that you've been to and.

1337
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 5: Why Kenya obviously? Okay, So Kenya is the more travelers.

1338
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 5: It has everything right literally, anything you want to do, families, kids,

1339
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 5: you want to go out, great cocktails, it's here like

1340
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 5: beauty and safety and kind of like you know, just

1341
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 5: order RNDA partying and like just acting a full Uganda.

1342
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 5: Oh it's got a great nightlife. Let's see Zambia, Zambia,

1343
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 5: and like Zimbabwe for just like natural wonders. You're just like, wow,

1344
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,919
Speaker 5: this is insane. Right, You've got like Moscio Tuna also

1345
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 5: known as Victoria Falls WHI people not acknowledge that name,

1346
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 5: but you know the waterfalls and like you've got it's

1347
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 5: just like so amazing. You feel like you're like one

1348
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 5: with nature at all times, right, is absolutely stunning. Of

1349
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 5: course Ghana Wow food, I was getting there. Relax. So

1350
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 5: Ghana has some of the best food, I would say

1351
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 5: on the count.

1352
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: In the world.

1353
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does. It's it's and it also feels and

1354
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 5: I will say this being that I'm like Caribbean also,

1355
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 5: it feels them closest to homes like nothing there felt

1356
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: like my family got Puerto Rico and Barbados. So for us,

1357
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, I hate this. I was like, okay, I

1358
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 5: do this. I can make this feels like home. The

1359
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 5: people also are lively and loving and warm. One of

1360
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: them not so much right now, but the rest of

1361
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 5: the country is great. I mean also too, I think

1362
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 5: being like you know, I'm used. I have so many

1363
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 5: Nigerian and Ghunnan friends that like. It also just felt

1364
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 5: really like home. It felt so like nothing felt.

1365
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: Foreign or different or like you know about South Africa.

1366
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 5: Okay, so South afric Here's the thing. I always I

1367
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 5: never pull any bunges. I always try to be honest

1368
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 5: South Africa. Cape Town specifically is one of the prettiest

1369
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 5: places on Earth. Fact, it's very white, so that doesn't

1370
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 5: feel like Africa to me. So the reason why I move.

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00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 5: Everyone's like, why don't you move to Capetown. It's tempting,

1372
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 5: super tempting. It's super tempting. I'm like, I can just

1373
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 5: put my money here. But then I'm like, okay, I'm

1374
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 5: playing myself. I'm playing with so total hypocrisy.

1375
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 4: Right.

1376
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: But it's like gorgeous, right, But it's like they always

1377
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 5: take the best stuff, right, It's like it's just like

1378
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: you got beach, you got It feels like California in

1379
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 5: the sense where it's like you could be up in

1380
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 5: the mountains in snow, you could be on the beach

1381
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 5: in crystal clear water, you could be at the wineries.

1382
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 7: Like.

1383
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 5: Cape Town's just stunning. Joe Berg has a lot of

1384
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 5: culture and a lot of vibe. It's just not the safest.

1385
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 5: But like music, when I think about like for me

1386
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 5: as an artist, like every time I'm there, I'm just

1387
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 5: like the music is like electric, right, So there is that.

1388
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 5: Zanzibar is. Zanzibar is beautiful. I personally now I prefer

1389
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 5: Dianni and Mumbasa and like the whole coast of Kenya

1390
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 5: just as far as like safety and cleanliness and like

1391
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 5: it's the same water, It's the same Indian Ocean in

1392
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 5: the same beach. But yeah, I mean I think every

1393
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 5: that was the hardest part about buying land was like

1394
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 5: every country has something so dope and special to offer, right,

1395
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 5: Tanzania is robust and lush and it's just like so

1396
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 5: much greenery everywhere. Right, everybody has something to offer, so

1397
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 5: really just got to pick a place, just put some

1398
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 5: money in it.

1399
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: I mean, when you name the top five, it's interesting.

1400
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: We met in Kagali last week and I'm thinking to myself,

1401
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: what is the strategy when you're trying to invest.

1402
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: Is it that I'm looking for the greenery? Is it

1403
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: am I looking for the education? Healthcare?

1404
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: What are the things when you're looking to say all right,

1405
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: here's why I want to buy land because I know

1406
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: you've got land in a few countries.

1407
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's like you gotta figure out what

1408
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 5: your priorities are, right, I mean for me, like I

1409
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 5: like I said, I look at like government. Kenya has

1410
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 5: a democracy. They you know people there's people speak out

1411
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 5: against things like those are things that I was used to.

1412
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 5: So when I was thinking about like culture, shock and

1413
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 5: what I was going to be able to, like what

1414
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 5: I want to raise my kids in, that was like

1415
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: a logical choice. Right, education, all the things that we

1416
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 5: need or hear. If you're looking for rule and a

1417
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 5: little bit less developed. In my opinion, Tanzania is a

1418
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 5: gold mine. It's absolutely stunning. There are a lot of

1419
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 5: the diaspora there already in the Indaro Salam. You know

1420
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 5: there's like you look at Zambia. Zambia is more rule,

1421
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 5: but again people are I know Americans that have gone

1422
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 5: to Zambia to mine brilliant. I'm not a minor, but

1423
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 5: it's brilliant. Dude. What I'm saying like that just wasn't

1424
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 5: what I was going to do, but I get it.

1425
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 5: So when you look at things like that, like they're

1426
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 5: coming in they're putting money in. Zambia has sons of

1427
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 5: copper and all kinds of other stuff, right, So it

1428
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 5: just depends on what you're into. The easiest countries to

1429
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 5: buy stuff in though, is definitely well Rondo without a

1430
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 5: doubt in the sense that they have a no like

1431
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 5: no nonsense policy, right, so you're never gonna be taken

1432
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 5: like it's just it's not gonna happen. Put your money

1433
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 5: and you're gonna get what you put your money in.

1434
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 5: For Kenya, I think is it takes a little bit longer,

1435
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 5: but it's like really straightforward. They're like, these are the

1436
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 5: things you have to do, and it's like no games, right,

1437
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 5: so that makes sense. Tanzania is a little bit harder

1438
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 5: because they want someone from like if you don't have

1439
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 5: people there, they want someone from Tanzania to be part

1440
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 5: of the business with you. So that's the decision you'd

1441
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 5: have to make, right, every country has something, you know,

1442
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 5: there are certain countries that will work with you. They

1443
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 5: just want Americans to come and they understand the power

1444
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 5: that we have are buying power and that will bring others.

1445
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 5: Zambia is one of them, you know, like they want

1446
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 5: to play, they want to play. So they're like, what

1447
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 5: do we do to help you? So it just depends,

1448
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 5: you know, Kenya To me, like I said, as far

1449
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 5: as like a first time, it was the easiest, Like

1450
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 5: this all made sense to me, Like I understood all

1451
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 5: the process. There's, like I said, only a few things

1452
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 5: that I thought were like I don't ever want to

1453
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 5: send them that money, you know what I mean? Like,

1454
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 5: but then I did it and it was like totally legit.

1455
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 5: And I asked around before I did it, and they

1456
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 5: were like, no, that's the way we do it, because

1457
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, are you just trying to get men to

1458
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 5: send them money?

1459
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: You know?

1460
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 5: But then once I did it, I was like, okay,

1461
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 5: I mean it wouldn't be the first time.

1462
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 3: Send the money track, So I actually this as far

1463
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 3: as you're doing a lot with real estate, right from

1464
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 3: the agriculture standpoint, investing anything in the entrepreneurial space, like

1465
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 3: business outside of real estate, well yeah.

1466
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 5: I've got so I've built two apps since I've been here.

1467
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that.

1468
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 5: Well. The first one is something called chech check. It's

1469
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 5: a security app. Actually, it's just sort of one of

1470
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 5: the things I noticed about like all of the buildings here,

1471
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 5: they have a very like antiquated system where it's like

1472
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 5: it's a book. I just thought like, I don't want

1473
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 5: to write all my information on this book. So it's

1474
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 5: really just a simple way to kind of streamline and yeah,

1475
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 5: because everybody has a check in process here, right, so

1476
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 5: things like that, and then the other app is in

1477
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 5: it's in the works right now, but it's another kind

1478
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 5: of like like a a work app, right, because when

1479
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 5: I came out here, I was like, well, how do

1480
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 5: I find a nanny? How do I find a housekeeper?

1481
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 5: How do I find how do I buy a car?

1482
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 5: Because kind of all those things, right, So it's like

1483
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 5: sort of an information hub for people like me that

1484
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 5: would need help finding these things, you know. So they

1485
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 5: don't have anything like that here. So when I came

1486
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, how do I find a nanny,

1487
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, the un has a has a bulletin

1488
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 5: board you have to go and and I was like,

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to the US, Like that's I don't

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Speaker 5: even belong to you.

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Speaker 4: I don't even let me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like that's just not like so like

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Speaker 5: you know, you think about like a care dot com

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Speaker 5: type of thing, but like for kind of the whole

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Speaker 5: sort of nannies and housekeepers and gardeners and the things

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Speaker 5: that you need just to like have, like to get

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Speaker 5: your life started, that kind of thing. But when I

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Speaker 5: was looking at to you know, I looked up like

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Speaker 5: Kenyan app developers and like this is young all Kenyan

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Speaker 5: team of guys is that like really inexpensively and affordably

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Speaker 5: built this very proficient app for me, and so it's doable.

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Speaker 5: So I'm doing things like that. I'm in the process

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Speaker 5: of manufacturing my wellness and beauty products here, so that's happening.

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Speaker 1: I can't let you leave without talking about music, right

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Speaker 1: we were talking before, you like, I don't have to

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Speaker 1: go to America to make my music.

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Speaker 4: It's here.

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Speaker 2: I can do it here. I can get mixed and

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Speaker 2: get massive talk about the music.

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Speaker 5: So I started recording my last record in California, and

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Speaker 5: then I obviously dipped, so I had to finish and

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Speaker 5: so I did the second half of my record all

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Speaker 5: here in Kenya. So I recorded it here. I used

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Speaker 5: a lot of I use some South African producers. I

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Speaker 5: have an East African engineer. Like it just it all

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Speaker 5: came together. Everything's here.

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Speaker 4: Why does that come up.

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Speaker 5: I'm releasing my single this summer, so it's been then

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Speaker 5: probably top of the year for the whole record.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm glad you talked about the APS too,

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Speaker 3: because that's not the thing we didn't talk about. But

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Speaker 3: Kenya as a tech hub of Africa, so that's another thing.

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Speaker 3: People need to be aware of the technology. Sometimes that's

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Speaker 3: another misconception. People automatically assume that it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a drop off in technology, and we all are relying

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Speaker 3: on technology, so that's a deterrent. Like I don't want

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Speaker 3: to have to deal with one g Wi fi and I'm.

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Speaker 5: Not, like no, I mean you see it right, Like listen,

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01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 5: I watch my Apple DD every day and like my

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01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 5: internet works, like everything is good. It's completely like it's

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Speaker 5: as modern as it quite frankly, it's probably better here

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Speaker 5: than it was and my farm in California, like you know,

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Speaker 5: all like you get all of the and even like

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Speaker 5: when you know, when I was talking about you're saying

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Speaker 5: the tech. They have a whole tech city. It's like

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Speaker 5: you know, Silicon Savannah that they've been building and I

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01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 5: don't know how long it's gonna take, but like just

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Speaker 5: the idea that like there are people going to school.

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Speaker 5: I have a kid who works for me that helps

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Speaker 5: me out with stuff, and he's getting his degree in

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01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 5: all kinds of engineering and tech, and like you have

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Speaker 5: everything here. So like it's a whole young community of

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Speaker 5: people that are super capable and it's really modern and

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Speaker 5: like I said, you can build it. Took it like

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Speaker 5: a couple a couple of months to build my app,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 4: What I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like, and they're they're ready and they're down to do it,

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Speaker 5: and they're completely capable.

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Speaker 1: We were driving earlier today and we were trying to

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01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: figure out where we were and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're across the street from the Microsoft building.

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Speaker 2: So when we say it's here, it's here.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking to the drive and he was like,

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Speaker 1: in terms of data centers and we talk about you know,

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Speaker 1: companies building them, Meta, Google, Amazon, Apple, they're here, right,

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Speaker 1: and they have the engineers working here, and so again

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Speaker 1: tech hub for sure, but like the innovation is here

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Speaker 1: too because the populations so young. When they get this information,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the trajectory is so far greater.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing. You feel it though, I think, like, I mean,

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Speaker 5: you guys, like this is your first time here, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: do you feel the energy here?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Like you can sense that, like this is a place

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Speaker 5: where like things are growing fast and happening fast. Like

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Speaker 5: I always say, it's like this is like our the

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Speaker 5: diaspora's gold rush, Like everybody needs to come here because

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Speaker 5: there will be a point when it's going to be unattainable.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 5: Like I look at the land that even that I bought,

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Speaker 5: it's already appreciated. Like if I were to sell with

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Speaker 5: the little bit that I've done right now, it's already

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Speaker 5: a quarter more than what I it's instead it's actually

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Speaker 5: less than a year that I bought it, right. It's

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Speaker 5: just everything is happening here, and it's happening quickly, right.

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Speaker 5: And so it's like I saw something and it's like

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Speaker 5: this old white billionaire and he's like, you're half for

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Speaker 5: girls the future, and it's like, sir, first of all,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's like I feel like it's frustrating because

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Speaker 5: I feel like they always know it, and then we

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Speaker 5: doubt it, you know, and then by the time we

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Speaker 5: figured it out, it's always too late. So it's like

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Speaker 5: this is the time. Now, this is a place where

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Speaker 5: you can invest and you can see returns quickly and

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Speaker 5: actually be of use and actually make a dent in something. Right.

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Speaker 5: It's not a rat race.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for you.

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Speaker 3: It's home for the website. I think want to get

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Speaker 3: on more information on land, like how they can buy

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Speaker 3: a piece and anything else.

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Speaker 5: For sure. Well definitely just follow me, you know on

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Speaker 5: Instagram at Cales and then you Hi, you follow me

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01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 5: on Instagram a Calse. I'm always talking about it. I

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01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 5: am setting up website we firmed, so I'll start talking

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 5: about it on my social media so you can start

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 5: to see when that's up and running. It's going to

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Speaker 5: be really soon though, and there will only be a

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Speaker 5: certain amount of places to start because I'm starting small,

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Speaker 5: like I said, one hundred and thirty people. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: definitely just check me out and go to bounding and

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Speaker 5: full dot com and get your stuff.

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Speaker 4: Do you have it, ladies and gentlemen. A wrap on

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Speaker 4: the set live from Kenya.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to the producers, the production team, Shout

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Speaker 1: out to Alvin, Shout to Ghana.

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Speaker 5: To Ghana, Heaven prevented.

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Speaker 1: Such a hater soundbra City, the cons City, the Great

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Speaker 1: Connector himself.

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Speaker 4: And Keny right now, Kenya, right now, that's ok. We

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Speaker 4: got be able to make it to Ghana. You know,

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Speaker 4: appreciate you guys. Thank you please.

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Speaker 8: and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just some

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Speaker 8: if you register using our CBP home app and leave now,

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Speaker 4: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,