1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Prognosis. I'm Laura Carlson. It's day one and 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: fifty two since coronavirus was declared a global pandemic. Today's 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: main story as schools confront the question of how and 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: whether to reopen for the fall. US education leaders have 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: cited major budget challenges in making school safe from the virus. 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: But first, here's what happened in virus news today. In 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: the US, there has been a spike in coronavirus infections 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: in children in the last half of July. Cases among 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: kids grew for according to a report from the American 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: Academy of Pediatrics and the Children's Hospital Association, that brings 11 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: the total number of child infections to around nine per 12 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: cent of all US cases, but deaths from COVID nineteen 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: total only six that's point zero six percent of total 14 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: fatalities in the country. The report aggregates data from forty 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: nine states. While the surge of infections may inflame the 16 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: heated debate about schools reopening in the fall, the data 17 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: also show that child infections make up a disproportionately small 18 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: share of the overall outbreak in the US. California, Florida, 19 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: and Arizona had the highest number of total child cases, 20 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: with more than twenty thousand each. In New York, the 21 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: number of coronavirus patients hospitalized and occupying intensive care beds 22 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: has reached a new low. Governor Andrew Cuomo said today 23 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: that there were five hundred and thirty five people hospitalized 24 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: and one hundred and twenty seven in the U statewide 25 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,639 Speaker 1: on Sunday, the lower since the pandemic began. In March. 26 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: There were two virus related fatalities. Finally, the World Health 27 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: Organization is planning an extensive mission to investigate the viruses origins, 28 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: starting in Wuhan, China, where the first cases were identified. 29 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: The w h O will deeply study individuals exposures and 30 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: activities like travel, occupation, and daily life before they developed symptoms, 31 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: all to get to the bottom of how the first 32 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: cases were transmitted from animals to humans. Mike Ryan, head 33 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: of the who's Emergencies Program, said the first case of 34 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: an illness to be identified is not always in the 35 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: location of the first cluster. He noted that it took 36 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: years to determine the animal origins for the Mirror's outbreak, 37 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: and he said that the genesis of the two thousand 38 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: two two thousand three stars outbreak has never been fully established. 39 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: And now for today's main story. Arnie Duncan, the former 40 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: U S Secretary of Education, recently warned a House panel 41 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: against opening schools prematurely. He's one of a growing chorus 42 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: of voices sounding the alarm about opening schools without properly 43 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: funding safety measures. The schools, they say, simply don't have 44 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: the money they need to make their buildings safe for 45 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: students and teachers. At the same House panel, witnesses said 46 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: public schools would need two hundred billion dollars in federal 47 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: aid to open safely with the virus continuing to circulate. 48 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I talked to Skylar Woodhouse, who reports on costs and 49 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: challenges of creating safe classrooms, walk us through some of 50 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: these logistical hurdles schools are facing when they're considering reopening 51 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: for the fall. There's a lot that schools are having 52 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: to take into consideration this upcoming fall. Abiding by all 53 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: those social distancing guidelines, making sure that their mask group 54 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: being worn, making sure that there's enough um like protective 55 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: equipment available for students and staff, the cleaning of schools, 56 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: and I'm boiling all of these things down. Educators At 57 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: this hearing that took place on Thursday with the Selective 58 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: Committee on the Coronavirus Crisis, these educators came in saying 59 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: that they need two hundred billion dollars in federal aid 60 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: to help support these schools all across the country that 61 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: are going to have students coming into the halls. At 62 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: the hearing, we heard from leaders of the country and 63 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: in local you know, teachers and administrators who are like 64 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: on the front lines currently preparing for the reopening of schools. 65 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: And during the hearing, in this discussion of funds, was 66 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: there any mention of how this funding would be distributed 67 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: amongst you know, the thousands of schools in the United States. 68 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: So the funding is being asked to be sent to 69 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: K through twelve schools that are going to see an 70 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: influx of students going back to going back to campus. 71 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: And you know, this money it's not just to you know, 72 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: make sure that masks are available. This money is to 73 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: make sure that cleaning can be properly done, that school 74 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: buses are properly cleaned, to make sure that all of 75 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: the working parts within the school system are being treated 76 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: to prevent any type of possible spread of the coronavirus. 77 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: So there was no specific plan as to this is 78 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: where it's going to be, just like distributed, you know, 79 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: in terms of which areas would receive more than others. 80 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a whole another conversation. But the number 81 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: was brought up because of the stimulus talks and Congress 82 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: trying to come up with an agreement to pass the 83 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: next round of stimulus so that money can start to 84 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: be distributed across the country. You know, we're seeing negotiations 85 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: right now between the House and the Senate, and the 86 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: Republicans have proposed seventy billion for primary and secondary education, 87 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: and ten percent of that seventy billion would go to 88 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: private and religious schools. So the number from Republicans, the 89 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: seventy billion, that was just cathered twelve, but they actually 90 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: presented one hundred and five billion, and that would also, 91 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, go to higher education in different education sectors 92 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: around the country. And the one hundred and five billion 93 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: for education that the Republicans presented is a few billion 94 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: higher than um what Democrats presented. And the Democrats had 95 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: stated that when they were trying to get their piece 96 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: of legislation out, they recognized that their number was lower 97 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: once you know, the Republican number came out, but they 98 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: just saw the urgency to get a piece of legislation passed. 99 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: And among these administrators teachers who are actually facing a reopening, 100 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: I mean in their local schools, what is their preparation plan. 101 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: Let's say someone comes down with a case of COVID nineteen, 102 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: what what would happen? What is their feeling about that 103 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: kind of threat in their schools. Well, one of the 104 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: witnesses at the hearing, Angela Skillings. She was teaching summer 105 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: school this past summer and one of her teachers that 106 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: she was working with throughout this summer during summer school 107 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: passed away from the coronavirus, and she was very vocal 108 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: that schools should not be rushing to reopen at the 109 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: right that they are and recognize that as much as 110 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: you can do to prepare to prevent the spread of 111 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: the virus. She really just touched on how hard it 112 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: is and that's just something that's not controllable right now 113 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: at this very moment. And then Robert Runcie on the superintendent, 114 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: he expressed his concern for the fear that is going 115 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: to come to his students and staff and parents, of 116 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: students and just really the community when you learn that 117 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: one kid or one faculty member has tested positive for 118 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: the virus, and it creates this type of fear when 119 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: you have to start notifying families around the school, you 120 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: know that they have to begin quarantining because to try 121 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: and prevent a potential outbreak within a school, Why are 122 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: we reopening just to reclose knowing that students and faculty 123 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: will test positive and knowing and seeing the numbers that 124 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: are continuing to increase, And that was a concern among 125 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: um the witnesses at the hearing. Was there any discussion 126 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: about whether the funds would be exclusively for in class 127 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: instruction or is there an ability to use these funds 128 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: potentially for online or digital education if the schools can't 129 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: be reopened. Well, part of the problem with the funding 130 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: and part of the reason why this hearing was called 131 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: was Secretary of Education Betsy du Bois. She said that 132 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: schools that do not reopen, you know, will will be 133 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: will be defunded. And the hearing was called to to 134 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: let her know that that's not the case and that 135 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the legal authority. And with that, part 136 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: of that came from President Trump. Saying that schools that 137 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: do not reopen will be defunded, and that is a 138 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: worry for some schools because they feel that if we 139 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: don't reopen, then we're going to miss out on that 140 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: funding that they desk really need due to the impact 141 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: of the coronavirus. So I really just think it presents 142 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: a question that we've all been trying to figure out 143 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: throughout this pandemic, is what's going to happen and what 144 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: will kind of be like the final verdict in the 145 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: in the final decision that was skylar Woodhouse. And that's 146 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: it for our show today. For coverage of the outbreak 147 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: from one and twenty bureaus around the world, visit Bloomberg 148 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: dot com slash coronavirus and if you like the show, 149 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: please leave us a review and a rating on Apple 150 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: Podcasts or Spotify. 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