Speaker 1: Whole zone media.
Speaker 2: Obviously, there are no words to describe the type of
Speaker 2: suffering being inflicted on the people of Israel and Palestine
Speaker 2: right now. There's no words. That's what comfort could any
Speaker 2: of us bring. You know what I'm saying, So let
Speaker 2: me set it out out the jump before y'all start.
Speaker 2: I just it's not like I'm worried about the emails.
Speaker 2: But like figured, I'll tell you right now, this is
Speaker 2: going to be a really long episode because it's complicated and.
Speaker 3: This has just been going on for so long, y'all.
Speaker 2: These are ultimately the point I'm making you'll see in
Speaker 2: this is this is the product of dehumanizing.
Speaker 3: Is what is what happens.
Speaker 2: So look, I'm gonna have to keep the names and
Speaker 2: dates really under under wraps here because yeah, this could
Speaker 2: get us all in trouble. But tell you a story
Speaker 2: of a friend of mine. One of his relatives got
Speaker 2: out of prison, needed a place to stay, so he
Speaker 2: stayed with you know, the homie Mahomie and his mom.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna change a few of the things just to
Speaker 2: make sure that like that not so innocent are protected.
Speaker 2: This is based on a true story. I'm not I
Speaker 2: can't get too much into the details here. So the
Speaker 2: homies mom was having this situation with this mechanic right,
Speaker 2: her car was not being treated with the right type
Speaker 2: of care. Kept saying the car needs like, oh, two
Speaker 2: more weeks, two more weeks. You know it's almost done,
Speaker 2: two more weeks. Like it'll be good. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: We got you. And I mean you could really you
Speaker 2: could swap this with any story. You know, you you
Speaker 2: come home, you've been picked on by whatever kid from
Speaker 2: whatever two streets over this. These people didn't give you
Speaker 2: the right, are like charging you more than you're supposed
Speaker 2: to being charged. You can insert any of this. There's
Speaker 2: just one relative. You shouldn't tell this because that relative
Speaker 2: loves you deeply and has a way of handling things,
Speaker 2: and it's probably stayed quiet and stayed out of it
Speaker 2: for as long as they could. Because everybody doesn't really
Speaker 2: agree with their methods. They their purpose we all agree with,
Speaker 2: but they methods.
Speaker 3: It's a little.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man kind of they kind of feel
Speaker 2: like war crimes your methods. But in their defense, which
Speaker 2: maybe there isn't any, they feel like war crimes.
Speaker 3: Have been committed towards their family. But either way.
Speaker 2: This is a button you don't necessarily want to push, right,
Speaker 2: but then they start seeing the pain in your face,
Speaker 2: the suffering that you're going through this particular situation. Was
Speaker 2: looking at his auntie and was like, you know, what's wrong, Auntie?
Speaker 2: You know? And she's like, man, I just like I swear,
Speaker 2: I keep seeing my car driven around, like I swear,
Speaker 2: that mechanic is just he's just keeping my car, you know.
Speaker 2: And this particular friend of mine, his relative that got
Speaker 2: out of prison, is plenty years older than him, so
Speaker 2: it's not like, you know, he can't. It's not like
Speaker 2: he was able to, as like the sun, be able
Speaker 2: to like go and take care of this situation. It
Speaker 2: would require an adult. So he says, you know, he
Speaker 2: you know, Auntie, I'll take care of it.
Speaker 3: So the relative.
Speaker 2: Goes to the mechanic and kidnaps him, does all types
Speaker 2: of horrendous the things to this mechanic and leaves him
Speaker 2: in the elements, just to be eight by whatever animals
Speaker 2: are outside, just at like gets his gets the keys
Speaker 2: back right to his auntie's car. Makes it very clear
Speaker 2: what she was doing was disrespectful to a nice old lady.
Speaker 3: And you're lucky. This is all I'm doing, and brings
Speaker 3: the hey.
Speaker 2: Look and this this is a nervous laugh, Like this
Speaker 2: isn't it's not funny.
Speaker 3: It's like it's a nervous laugh.
Speaker 2: So he does the acts of discipline and then he brings.
Speaker 3: His auntie her keys back, and the hummies.
Speaker 2: Auntie was like, uh, nephew, I mean I ain't. I
Speaker 2: mean I'm glad, thank thank you, like thank you for
Speaker 2: getting my car back, Like, uh, I mean, I ain't.
Speaker 2: I just wanted you to kind of like just scare
Speaker 2: me get my car back. The hummy cousins say, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: he's scared. He real scared, and look, he ain't gonna
Speaker 2: do this to nobody else. I just want to say
Speaker 2: thank you for allowing me to have another chance somewhere,
Speaker 2: a plump place to stay. And as a token in
Speaker 2: my appreciation, I took care of this for you.
Speaker 3: Okay, I love you. Let me know if you need
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 2: This is not funny because like I am scrubbing this
Speaker 2: story so clean that the details of this story is
Speaker 2: I like, the details are horrendous.
Speaker 3: I can't. They're horrendous.
Speaker 2: When sometimes if a person being pushed too far and
Speaker 2: been taking advantage of for too long. You understand that
Speaker 2: the pressure cooker makes it makes it be like this.
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. Listen again, replace this with anybody.
Speaker 2: This could be you come home, somebody stole your shoes
Speaker 2: to your big brother, go across the street and burn
Speaker 2: the house down. Wish one of them niggas stole your
Speaker 2: shoes and he burned the house down. It's like, damn,
Speaker 2: I mean thanks, I just I just wanted them to
Speaker 2: stop picking on me little your brother, Say he gonna
Speaker 2: stop picking on you now. I'll tell you that right now,
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna pick on nobody. I wish the nigga
Speaker 2: would pick I wish he would pick on you again.
Speaker 2: You gonna learn today, say I mean you burn the
Speaker 2: whole damn house down.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody everybody gotta go like nigga.
Speaker 2: Everybody gotta go if you with him, If you with him,
Speaker 2: you're getting it too.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 2: We like.
Speaker 3: You need to understand that this needs to stop happening.
Speaker 3: Y'all know how I'll move.
Speaker 2: These are not justifications, they are explanations. Just understand what's
Speaker 2: happening here. Maybe that's what Hamas was doing. Politics y'all.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, second episode of You Wasn't Outside, because
Speaker 2: we're back here again pretty much on clock, right on time,
Speaker 2: with another Israel and Palestine scuffle. This one is bad,
Speaker 2: the badness. However, man, let me how do I say this?
Speaker 2: If you're in the region, it never stopped like it
Speaker 2: never this conflict never stopped the conflicts. It's seventy years old.
Speaker 2: So today I want to re remind y'all a principle
Speaker 2: about when you open your mouth and when you try
Speaker 2: to form your opinions about this, it's again, you wasn't outside.
Speaker 2: And if you don't know what that means, let me
Speaker 2: remind you. It's a way to describe when if you
Speaker 2: didn't really gang bang, like if you didn't if you
Speaker 2: weren't in the field. You know, when you know these
Speaker 2: these young brothers, these young sisters, was twelve, thirteen, fourteen
Speaker 2: years old when they were getting in trouble, when they
Speaker 2: were when they were super active, was running from bullets,
Speaker 2: running from the cops, when it was really really really
Speaker 2: out there, getting a certification, like if you didn't live
Speaker 2: that even wherever you were, if you was in New York,
Speaker 2: if you was this like whatever it was if you
Speaker 2: wasn't really in the hood, then it's of course there's
Speaker 2: the humanity of like some stuff is just like yeah,
Speaker 2: you could say that's pretty. That's objectively cruel, that is
Speaker 2: objectively a crime, and this is these things are objectively tragic.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think anybody, at least anybody that grew
Speaker 2: up like we grew up, Like there's no delusions about
Speaker 2: the carnage, what it meant to be around sort of
Speaker 2: the type of gang violence that a lot of us
Speaker 2: grew up around or participated in. I'm even saying around
Speaker 2: because I'm even being very careful. You know, you never
Speaker 2: see me actually carrying or wearing no bandanas and stuff.
Speaker 2: Is not because I'm scared, is I mean, I am,
Speaker 2: But it's because I respect the fact that, like people
Speaker 2: really lived and died by the flags. So you don't like,
Speaker 2: I'm not ain't no made up set here like, ain't
Speaker 2: no like if you wasn't really there, you should really
Speaker 2: be careful about your opinions about this situation, about the
Speaker 2: people in this situation and what it was like to
Speaker 2: be there. Like if you wasn't really there, you really
Speaker 2: don't know you wasn't outside, And I think, here's the
Speaker 2: thing with Americans with us, and I'm putting myself really
Speaker 2: into this before I get into like really, what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get into this for this episode is I've been
Speaker 2: to the West Bank. I've seen you know, obviously I
Speaker 2: can't go into Gaza, you know what I'm saying, which
Speaker 2: is another part of the politics that people really not
Speaker 2: recognize it. Not only can I not go in, they
Speaker 2: can't come out like like, I don't think y'all understand
Speaker 2: really what's going on in Gaza. The point I'm trying
Speaker 2: to make is I had to record I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: a child of a black panther. I consider myself even
Speaker 2: among my friends, I consider myself though woke ist. Even
Speaker 2: the time I went I felt I felt like I
Speaker 2: was probably the most socially and politically aware of my
Speaker 2: friend group. Like that's I mean, I don't say this
Speaker 2: as any detriment to them, it's just because that's my field.
Speaker 2: That's the waters I swam in, is understanding justice and
Speaker 2: equity and equality and persecution around the world, Like that's
Speaker 2: the stuff I lived in Hell. I'm on the board
Speaker 2: for humanitarian organizations. You feel me, people that do peace
Speaker 2: brokering in conflict regions like I would sit on the
Speaker 2: bord of directors for this mug so I feel like
Speaker 2: this is the world I'm in. But standing in Jerusalem,
Speaker 2: like Israel, Jerusalem and then Bethlehem and East Jerusalem, standing
Speaker 2: in Palestine going down to the West Bank, listening to
Speaker 2: their stories and then these other people's stories made me
Speaker 2: realize how uninformed I actually was and how curated our
Speaker 2: news really is. And I consider myself aware fam like,
Speaker 2: but standing there, I was like, yo, I really I
Speaker 2: am really a product. I've really been pun intended. I
Speaker 2: am part of a propaganda machine and you really don't
Speaker 2: see it until you get there. And I prided myself
Speaker 2: in being more aware than most of the people. But
Speaker 2: standing out there, dog, I was like, yo, I really
Speaker 2: don't I really don't know. I'm not I'm not out here,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I had to like
Speaker 2: refort like start from scratch any opinion I had and
Speaker 2: just and in a lot of ways, just trust my
Speaker 2: eyes and cause I feel like, you know, I've been
Speaker 2: part of What's what's an example, Okay? If you A
Speaker 2: good example would be if you ever visit Russia, Like
Speaker 2: if you ever visit, Like if you my age and
Speaker 2: you visited Russia, you thought, man, you thought the USSR
Speaker 2: was just this desolate, miserable place where no one smiles,
Speaker 2: the worst place to be. You just thought being in
Speaker 2: the soul. Oh my god, it's so terrible, they have
Speaker 2: no freedom's awful. It'd be a horrible place to go.
Speaker 2: You thought Draco's was like roam in the streets. And
Speaker 2: then you go and then I went to Saint Peter's.
Speaker 2: You go to say, You're like, this is a beautiful city.
Speaker 2: It's the greatest dope clubs.
Speaker 3: Man, I got hip hop.
Speaker 2: Like, man, I'm sitting here and you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: enjoying a nice iced tea. Like it's a great place
Speaker 2: where regular as people who go to work and go
Speaker 2: home just like the rest of us. You're just like, oh,
Speaker 2: and it's like but you want to be like but
Speaker 2: y'all miserable, like y'all hate this communist right, zero zero zero, Right, dude.
Speaker 2: I have a friend from Canada and then listen, listen
Speaker 2: like this one I'm trying to say, like, appreciate this
Speaker 2: what you're coming from. I had a friend from Canada
Speaker 2: and when they got married, I was like, where are
Speaker 2: you going to where you spend their honeymoon? And they
Speaker 2: was like Cuba. I was like, what y'all what you gig?
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, it's just America that doesn't go like
Speaker 2: the rest of us. We go to cube all the time.
Speaker 2: I was like, we just you don't realize how much
Speaker 2: of your information is really curated and and to the
Speaker 2: point of where you don't believe your own eyes.
Speaker 3: And that was my experience.
Speaker 2: It was like it was like I couldn't I'm looking
Speaker 2: at what is obvious what I'm looking at, but I
Speaker 2: just could not get my head around it. One because
Speaker 2: I'm from America, and two because I grew up in
Speaker 2: the church. We went to church, so like you supposed
Speaker 2: to think about, you know, Israel, the way you supposed
Speaker 2: to think about it is you don't say it like you
Speaker 2: But I'm standing there and I'm like this, it's almost
Speaker 2: like I would not let myself believe my eyes.
Speaker 3: But I had to come back and.
Speaker 2: Say, but you know what, though, look in the same way.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear none of y'all talk about
Speaker 2: violence in Chicago. I don't want to hear none of
Speaker 2: y'all talk about crime waves raising listen, which is also
Speaker 2: very funny to me and people talking about crime waves
Speaker 2: raising in America, I'm like, did y'all forget? Did y'all
Speaker 2: forget the nineties? Like did you just are we just
Speaker 2: not counting the nineties? Oh, We're We're in an amazing
Speaker 2: crime wave. I'm like, Okay, crime is down from twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty twenty two. Crime crime has gone down,
Speaker 2: but it's way higher than levels in twenty nineteen, right,
Speaker 2: But both of those numbers, it's not even close to
Speaker 2: the numbers in the nineties, Like.
Speaker 3: Did y'all forget?
Speaker 2: Like what the hell you mean crime are? Like, did
Speaker 2: y'all y'all forget it? You don't remember the nineties? Like
Speaker 2: crime was wild? Cuz so I don't want to hear
Speaker 2: you talk about no no crime rates. And then it's like, well,
Speaker 2: obviously it was the pandemic, sir, That's why the crime
Speaker 2: went the way at rent, Like.
Speaker 3: Are y'all serious?
Speaker 2: But anyway, I'm like, you wasn't man, y'all wasn't there,
Speaker 2: Like it's like I don't wanna hear what you got
Speaker 2: to say because you wasn't there, Like you like, there's
Speaker 2: so much of this. There's so much backstory, there's so
Speaker 2: much of this liked and in the way that y'all
Speaker 2: talking about it makes me no, oh, nigga, you wasn't there, y'all,
Speaker 2: y'all wasn't outside you making this shit, and you wasn't there,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like when I.
Speaker 3: Tell you that you're just you're walking on.
Speaker 2: From school and the daily the thought that, like I
Speaker 2: might die on the way home like you, these are
Speaker 2: real thoughts like this, I trying to say, it's just
Speaker 2: like you just hope it was just like roving packs
Speaker 2: of vehemently, venomously dangerous boys just on the streets like this,
Speaker 2: like this was la like y'all, y'all forget this. So
Speaker 2: all that to say, again, you wasn't outside. Now, I
Speaker 2: do have a thesis for this episode, which is not
Speaker 2: necessarily just to play by play of what had happened.
Speaker 3: Was you know, which is the normal kind of.
Speaker 2: The way we do this. I think this one has
Speaker 2: to do more with just how we talk about it.
Speaker 2: And now I just want to throw some stuff into
Speaker 2: your little think box this time, but that needs context,
Speaker 2: I think the first thing. So ultimately I want to
Speaker 2: talk about like if we really want to see peace,
Speaker 2: we gotta like.
Speaker 3: We got to reverse engineer it. So there's that. I think.
Speaker 2: Secondly, you have to really understand and have an appreciation
Speaker 2: of humanity period, which I just i for some reason
Speaker 2: in our psychees and I'm speaking specifically about us out
Speaker 2: west in America, we want a clean narrative of well
Speaker 2: a protag protagonists and an antagonist, you know. And I
Speaker 2: think in a way a lot of times we do that.
Speaker 2: We compare carnage. It's like, well, look out bad this
Speaker 2: carnage is, and then the other person that will look
Speaker 2: out bad this carnage is. And it just doesn't get
Speaker 2: us anywhere, because the carnage is the problem.
Speaker 3: Period, right.
Speaker 2: And and even if so, like if you're gonna make
Speaker 2: a defense for Israel and what Palestine and not specifically
Speaker 2: Palestine right now, but Hamas, what Hamas did you? You
Speaker 2: don't want to do the numbers thing because the numbers
Speaker 2: aren't even close of the amount of deaths Israel has
Speaker 2: given to Palestine. Like it's not even close. You could
Speaker 2: look it up on the UN It's not even close.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It does this is no again here hear what I'm
Speaker 2: telling you. What I'm saying is these comparisons they're not helpful,
Speaker 2: Like even making the comparison ain't helpful. And then I'm saying,
Speaker 2: but even if you were, it's not even close. Like
Speaker 2: if you're gonna do that, then Israel is clearly the villain.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like if you're gonna if
Speaker 2: you're gonna do that, I'm just saying, let's not even
Speaker 2: think about it like that.
Speaker 3: So we want to reverse engineer piece, right.
Speaker 2: We want to stop looking for a clear protagonist and
Speaker 2: antagonist right, And then I think you really have to
Speaker 2: understand not only the history, but how identities are formed.
Speaker 2: I got some clips I want to play too. This
Speaker 2: is the first time I want to play clips. I
Speaker 2: got some clips from some rabbis about just the uniqueness
Speaker 2: of what we're talking about here. And I think I
Speaker 2: talked about this in the first You wasn't outside when
Speaker 2: we form an identity and what an identity is, particularly
Speaker 2: in this region, there's it's not a one to one
Speaker 2: ratio of what it means to define your personhood in
Speaker 2: this region. And I hear it's crazy because I even
Speaker 2: hear news casters conflate a lot of things that actually
Speaker 2: aren't helpful, you know. You know some there are some
Speaker 2: terms and like if you're bilingual, there are some in
Speaker 2: terms of just don't there's no direct translation, you know,
Speaker 2: and if I were to explain to you the direct translation,
Speaker 2: it actually takes on a whole different meaning. Identity is
Speaker 2: like that where they are if you're I mean, this
Speaker 2: is this is for people who have no relation to
Speaker 2: an Arab region in their family lineage, like if you
Speaker 2: just everybody else, like if you from you, this is
Speaker 2: stupid to you because you're like, duh, this is how
Speaker 2: we think about things.
Speaker 3: But the but the West doesn't, you know.
Speaker 2: So I got some clips from a couple of rabbis
Speaker 2: who actually I think really helped sort out that.
Speaker 3: Uniqueness. Okay, now, little history. There's really it's really.
Speaker 2: Almost impossible to like know where to drop drop into
Speaker 2: the history of Judea, which is the historical name of
Speaker 2: this particular region, even before it's called Palestine, before it's
Speaker 2: called Israel's called Judea.
Speaker 3: That's just the that's just the ancient that's.
Speaker 2: What it was, right that being said in the in
Speaker 2: the first you wasn't outside episode, I actually walked you
Speaker 2: through which I would say refer to I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna go through all of it again, but just
Speaker 2: the amount of times this particular swath of land has
Speaker 2: changed hands, and in that whole time, there's been people
Speaker 2: whose families have never left. They we just you know,
Speaker 2: are you ever heard the phrase we didn't cross the
Speaker 2: border of the border across to us. That's kind of
Speaker 2: what happened and for most families in Judea, you know,
Speaker 2: whether we're talking about now we're getting into biblical stuff
Speaker 2: because again that the identity way that we formed it.
Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna again, I'm gonna play this clip a
Speaker 2: little later. I'm all over the place because it's so
Speaker 2: many moving parts happening at one time. But like theologically speaking,
Speaker 2: what makes a person a Jew is It's is the Covenant.
Speaker 2: It's the covenant with Yahweh. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 2: with their God like you got to go into Exodus.
Speaker 2: He's like, I've made a promise to these people, these
Speaker 2: Abrahamic people from this particular region, and even within that
Speaker 2: like being children of Abraham, if you will, I'm thrown
Speaker 2: out these names, assuming you've read a Bible or a Quran,
Speaker 2: even with that I can point at four different people
Speaker 2: in the Testament who were from other tribes that could
Speaker 2: considered part of being the children of Israel Mattter in fact,
Speaker 2: the lineage of King David, which eventually becomes a lineage
Speaker 2: of Jesus. They not I mean Rahab like they're just
Speaker 2: root the Moabidis, like these people in there, they're from
Speaker 2: other tribes. But the point I'm trying to make is
Speaker 2: it's the covenant with Yahweh is what makes you part
Speaker 2: of their identity right now.
Speaker 3: Again, this is a particular theological view.
Speaker 2: Like every other religion and belief there's a lot of
Speaker 2: varying types of theology.
Speaker 3: Call me on it.
Speaker 2: I might not know what I'm talking about. I think
Speaker 2: I do right, and I'm gonna bring in some rabbis
Speaker 2: to try to like. And again, even the rabbis I'm
Speaker 2: bringing it, that might be you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like you may think that this fool full of crap.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe your rabbi teach is different.
Speaker 2: Either way, This just to help us on the West
Speaker 2: understand like what we're looking at, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna get biblical, we're talking about like
Speaker 2: the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Medio Persians, all these different
Speaker 2: empires that according to the prophecies, you know, the Old
Speaker 2: Testament prophets.
Speaker 3: God was gonna scatter them like y'all gotta go, y'all
Speaker 3: went everywhere.
Speaker 2: And then there was a promise to bring them all back.
Speaker 2: Right Now, Zionists believe that that promise was fulfilled in
Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight when Israel became a nation state, that
Speaker 2: they would argue that that's the fulfilling promise. Now, some
Speaker 2: Jewish scholars think, well, that's preposterous, that's not that's not
Speaker 2: even what it meant, because it was never about location.
Speaker 2: It was about covenant anyway, getting in the weeds there.
Speaker 2: But the point is, as we all know, Jews come
Speaker 2: in all different colors, sizes, and shapes, right, and it
Speaker 2: was all over Europe and experienced, let's not trip, some
Speaker 2: of the worst atrocities.
Speaker 3: Known to humankind.
Speaker 2: The things that have been done to the Jews in Europe,
Speaker 2: I mean, absolutely unthinkable. Now, if we're talking just sheer
Speaker 2: numbers of death, the Native Americans suffered a higher number.
Speaker 2: But which is crazy to say that, like, yeah, those
Speaker 2: numbers actually dwarf the Holocaust, but that's a whole other story.
Speaker 2: The point is Holocaust was real, and that type of
Speaker 2: trauma has been sitting in these collective bones for so long.
Speaker 3: Clearly they had no place to go. Now.
Speaker 2: The sanitary story is that, you know, birth in these
Speaker 2: concentration camps and birth in these sufferings was this yearning
Speaker 2: to go back home, to find a place that we
Speaker 2: could call our own, and to go build that place
Speaker 2: in the land of our ancestors, which was Judea or
Speaker 2: what they're like, well, that's Israel, right, but at the
Speaker 2: time was Palestine. Why it's Palestine is because while all
Speaker 2: this was happening everywhere else, whether it was the Turkish Empire,
Speaker 2: the Romans, the Maleukes, like everybody, all got a piece
Speaker 2: of the action in this land called Judea. Palestine's called
Speaker 2: Palestine because when the Romans ACKed it, they were making
Speaker 2: fun of them, and Palestine is like Philistine, which is
Speaker 2: like the mortal enemies. But either way, there's people that's like,
Speaker 2: I don't care what you call it. We never left
Speaker 2: you feel me. We've been Palestine since the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: So that's where we are now. The birth of the
Speaker 2: modern nation state, as y'all know, that's post World War two, which,
Speaker 2: as you know, nation states are imaginary lines. They're just
Speaker 2: they're made up. They're not like and they are fortified
Speaker 2: by violence, right and commerce. Well, this is a made
Speaker 2: up term, right, because the borders aren't actually real, they're
Speaker 2: made up. The modern nation state product of war and
Speaker 2: imaginary borders. Like, that's just I don't know what else,
Speaker 2: it's what it is now at this point, I think
Speaker 2: it's a good idea of dropping this clip from Rabbi
Speaker 2: Yakov Shapiro. He wrote this book called The Empty Wagon,
Speaker 2: Zionism's Journey from Identity Crisis to Identity Theft.
Speaker 3: It's an incredible book.
Speaker 2: He's a theologian, rabbi obviously thirty years, incredibly smart man.
Speaker 2: And like I said, there's probably plenty of y'all.
Speaker 3: That think he's full of shit.
Speaker 2: Listen, I understand that, you know, but I think what
Speaker 2: he's about to articulate really is helpful to understand again
Speaker 2: the way that these identities.
Speaker 3: Merge and interplay.
Speaker 2: Now, again, he's a theologian, so he talks in those terms,
Speaker 2: and in this clip he's responding to specifically Trump talking
Speaker 2: about moving the capital from tel Aviv, like the embassy
Speaker 2: moving from tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: All right, you see, to the eternal capital of the
Speaker 1: Jewish people, Jerusalem. I was with him until he said
Speaker 1: the eternal capital of the Jewish people. President Trump has
Speaker 1: the right to make whatever foreign policy he wants, and
Speaker 1: he feels that Miami Beach is best to recognize as
Speaker 1: the capital of Israel.
Speaker 4: That's his business. He can do it.
Speaker 1: But once he starts talking about the Jewish people, now
Speaker 1: he's inroaching upon religion, and now that's my domain. There
Speaker 1: is absolutely no political relationship between the Jewish people and Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: It's merely a holy city. The Jewish people don't have
Speaker 1: a capital. We never had a capital. Countries have capitals,
Speaker 1: States have capitals. That's the definition of a capital capital dictionary.
Speaker 1: Now the most important city or town of a country
Speaker 1: or region. Now, the Jewish people are not a country
Speaker 1: or region. The Jewish people are a religious community. We
Speaker 1: pray towards Jerusalem, but we relate to Jerusalem only as
Speaker 1: a holy city, not as a political capital city of
Speaker 1: the Jewish people. And all of those overtures that we
Speaker 1: make to Jerusalem and the yearning that Jews have for
Speaker 1: Jerusalem is only as a holy city, not as a
Speaker 1: capital city. And because it's a holy city, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who has sovereignty over it. Jerusalem is just as
Speaker 1: holy and just as much Jerusalem, whether it's under the
Speaker 1: auspices of the Turks or the Roman or the British,
Speaker 1: or whoever. It's important to know that the Zionists were
Speaker 1: the ones that started this business of the capital of
Speaker 1: the Jewish people, and it's an idea that conflicts directly
Speaker 1: with the teachings of Judaism. At Mount Sinai in the desert,
Speaker 1: the Torres says, the Bible says about us Hayaim Hazenieslam.
Speaker 1: That's when we became a people. The Jewish people aren't
Speaker 1: a people because of a land, or out of people
Speaker 1: because of a language. We're not out of people because
Speaker 1: of a culture. We were a religion, and when we
Speaker 1: were deputized into the religion, when we accepted the religion
Speaker 1: given to us by God, that's when we became the
Speaker 1: Jewish people. We had no land, no territories, we had
Speaker 1: no capital city. And in fact, our commentators say, the
Speaker 1: reason why God gave the Jews the Tora in the
Speaker 1: desert before they went into the Holy Land was in
Speaker 1: order to teach them that land country has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with your jewishness. Your jewishness is because you accept
Speaker 1: the religion. A couple of years ago, the Pope went
Speaker 1: to visit Natanio, and Natanio's breaking to the Pope, this
Speaker 1: is where Jesus lived in this land, and.
Speaker 3: He spoke Hebrew here.
Speaker 1: So the Pope corrected him. The Pope said, no, Aramaic,
Speaker 1: And Pope was right, and nat Natanio says, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he understood Hebrew. Well, you know, maybe he did.
Speaker 1: But Hebrew was never the national language of the Jewish people.
Speaker 1: It was a holy language, just like land of Israel
Speaker 1: was a holy land. Oh by the way, if you
Speaker 1: see the clip and you don't know which of the
Speaker 1: two people talking as natanioh and which is the Pope,
Speaker 1: the Pope's the one.
Speaker 4: Wearing the Yamaica.
Speaker 1: Even if we were to pretend that the Jewish people
Speaker 1: have a capital, that would have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: whether Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel, because Israel's
Speaker 1: not the Jewish people. Israel has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the old Jewish commonwealth. It's a country that was created
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty eight. When you hear the Israelis or
Speaker 1: the Zionists talk about how Jerusalem has a connection with
Speaker 1: the Jewish people for two thousand years, three thousand years,
Speaker 1: four thousand years, it's all true, but that doesn't translate
Speaker 1: to well, therefore Juwsom has to be part of Israel.
Speaker 1: People think that Israel is some kind of continuation of
Speaker 1: the Jewish government, but it's not. It's a completely different
Speaker 1: form of government, completely different values, completely different ideology, and
Speaker 1: completely different people. These are not religious Jews that are
Speaker 1: running the country. These are atheists. And yet the Israeli
Speaker 1: prime ministers, from Ben Gurian all the way up to
Speaker 1: Natanioh use the Bible as an excuse for ownership of
Speaker 1: the land. Ben Gurion, he says, the mandate is not
Speaker 1: our Bible, but the Bible is our mandate. This is
Speaker 1: a man that didn't believe the Bible is given by God.
Speaker 1: He didn't believe God ever spoke to prophets. He didn't
Speaker 1: believe it at all. Neither does Benjamin Eitanioho. It says
Speaker 1: in a Bible, watch the sabbath to keep it holy. Natanie,
Speaker 1: who doesn't refrain from work on the Sabbath it says
Speaker 1: not to eat non kosher food in the Bible. Does
Speaker 1: Natanio who do the No, There is nothing wholly in
Speaker 1: the Bible that Natanio, who cares about. The only thing
Speaker 1: cares about is his land. Restorationists Protestants, we call them
Speaker 1: Evangelical Christians today. They existed hundreds of years before any
Speaker 1: Jewish Zionist was ever born. And because the Evangelicals, the Restorationists,
Speaker 1: had great influence in Britain, and Britain had the mandate,
Speaker 1: the Zionists very very much adopted the Christian evangelical interpretation
Speaker 1: of the Bible, and.
Speaker 4: That's what they use today.
Speaker 1: You'll find that Benjamin Natanio sometimes even espouses Christian evangelical
Speaker 1: interpretations of the Bible over the Jewish ones. A number
Speaker 1: of years ago, Natania who spoke in the so side
Speaker 1: of the Auschwitz concentration camp, and he mentioned a prophecy
Speaker 1: in the book of Jacheskel about how the prophets saw
Speaker 1: dried bones rising from the ground and growing flesh and
Speaker 1: becoming live again. And Natania who said that that prophecy
Speaker 1: is fulfilled with the date of Israel, because the Jews
Speaker 1: were dry bones and now they grew flesh and they're
Speaker 1: real people. Again, this interpretation is not found anywhere in
Speaker 1: any Jewish source, because in Judaism this is impossible. But
Speaker 1: for over a century this has been a Christian evangelical interpretation.
Speaker 1: The Zionists when they talk about the Bible, they're not
Speaker 1: talking about the Judaic version of Judaism and Jewishness. They're
Speaker 1: talking really about the Christian evangelical version. Nataniou has no
Speaker 1: right to claim that his state is mine. I was
Speaker 1: born in America, my father was born in Poland. My
Speaker 1: mother's family is from England. We have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with Israel. We're Jews, We're observant Jews, we're religious Jews.
Speaker 1: I wear Yamica. Natanio doesn't. I keep the shapest Natanio doesn't,
Speaker 1: And Israel is not my nation state.
Speaker 3: In the slightest this.
Speaker 1: Is a eunilateral claim of the Israelis, of the Zionists,
Speaker 1: and it's an assault on my religion. So too the
Speaker 1: claim that Jerusalem is the capital of the Jewish people,
Speaker 1: because it transforms the Jewish people from a religious identity
Speaker 1: to a national identity to a political identity, and it's
Speaker 1: an assault on my religion. When Natanio says that because
Speaker 1: Jerusalem is so connected to the Jewish people, therefore it
Speaker 1: must be part of the State of Israel. Jerusalem's holiness,
Speaker 1: Jusalem's value to the Jewish people, has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with who owns it, and it certainly has no reason
Speaker 1: to be part of the State of Israeli.
Speaker 2: So this differentiation between person, nation, and ethnicity, it's really
Speaker 2: important for this conversation now. As thesionists came up with
Speaker 2: this idea to build this modern nation state, there couldn't
Speaker 2: have been any doubt in the original like mandates people's
Speaker 2: mind that the only way to build the nation is
Speaker 2: to expel the people that are there, because it's people
Speaker 2: already there. You had to like kind of know that.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, these people are functioning from serious,
Speaker 2: deep seated, horrible atrocities that I wouldn't wish on anybody.
Speaker 2: So with that type of trauma sitting in your bones,
Speaker 2: the idea of somebody saying you don't belong here triggers
Speaker 2: all of the anti Semitism that they've experienced for so long.
Speaker 3: And I feel it because that's a real, real thing.
Speaker 2: And I think I'm using terms like zionis Israeli again
Speaker 2: on purpose, because these are all different types of identities
Speaker 2: and they're all different things. Anti Semitism has to do
Speaker 2: with the idea of you thinking that Jews should not exist.
Speaker 2: That's absurd and deplorable and disgusting, and I understand why
Speaker 2: they're so defensive about it. Right, So then you have
Speaker 2: this mandate. Basically what happened was in during the nineteen forties,
Speaker 2: it was under British control the region of Palestine. They
Speaker 2: decided we're just gonna like, we're just gonna leave and
Speaker 2: it's up for grabs. We're not gonna fight over it. It's
Speaker 2: just this is too weird. Whoever wants it, you could
Speaker 2: get it. And while Palestine was thinking, okay, finally y'all
Speaker 2: gonna leave, this other group of people from Europe came
Speaker 2: in and snatched them up up and was like, all right,
Speaker 2: we building a nation. Israel's born. We just made a
Speaker 2: deal with Europe, and Palistine Palestinians is like, wait, whoa
Speaker 2: who are y'all? They're like, well, this is our ancestral land.
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, well this is our ancestoral land too,
Speaker 2: and our current land. Like what, You're just gonna build
Speaker 2: a country right here? Well, that's cool, man, But like
Speaker 2: we kind of already are a country. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is the ancestral land of the Jewish people. And
Speaker 2: the Palestinians was like, well, yeah, we a lot of
Speaker 2: us are Jewish too. Yeah, no, we're from here. They're like, no,
Speaker 2: we're from here. It's like, well damn, y'all look real
Speaker 2: Russian to be from here.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: The point is there was quite a culture class right there.
Speaker 2: And then the next moves, y'all please understand they were political,
Speaker 2: Like these moves are this is politics, y'all. And as
Speaker 2: we know, what informs politics, just like in America, is faith, race,
Speaker 2: and identity. Right, But it's different there because what does
Speaker 2: it mean to be an Arab? A lot of times
Speaker 2: you say Arab, you think Muslim. Not all Arabs are Muslim,
Speaker 2: not all Arabs are Christian, not all Arabs are Jews.
Speaker 2: Arab is it's an umbrella term that we want to
Speaker 2: compartmentalize or something. So when you talk about Hamas being
Speaker 2: a Muslim extremist, they just happen to be Muslim, right,
Speaker 2: that's not that is not what radicalized them.
Speaker 3: Well, radicalize them with oppression?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Who you thinking about when you think in a Muslim
Speaker 2: extreme you thinking hesbelah, that's Iran, right, and they are.
Speaker 2: That's more of a political religious zealot situation. Kamas as
Speaker 2: different they from Palestine. They was in a different situation
Speaker 2: they're facing. And this is the part that like I
Speaker 2: feel like I had to like let myself see if
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let myself. And it hurts me so much
Speaker 2: to say it, but again, these moves are political. They're
Speaker 2: not they're political move yo. And let me say this,
Speaker 2: just like in America, there's plenty of times where you
Speaker 2: know your regular ass this way, I have none to
Speaker 2: do it. I can't tell you what we're doing everywhere,
Speaker 2: like and I don't agree with everything they doing, like
Speaker 2: so your regular Israeli citizen probably for the most part,
Speaker 2: it is like, man, what is why y'all doing this?
Speaker 2: All they know is damn moss be shelling us, Like
Speaker 2: I wish y'all ain't shell us.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you know, that's all
Speaker 3: they know, but they like, I.
Speaker 2: Mean shit, man, Like now I don't agree with the
Speaker 2: nation doing but like I mean, it is what it is,
Speaker 2: Like what I'm gonna do? You know, So your regular
Speaker 2: human is now, who I'm talking about, your regular ass
Speaker 2: Israeli is not who I'm talking about here as a
Speaker 2: geopolitical nation state they're experiencing. I mean, this is it's
Speaker 2: an ethnic cleansing, like I don't know, it's it's kind
Speaker 2: of what it is. And they're fighting back like y'all, y'all.
Speaker 2: Gaza is the size of Washington, DC. It's five miles wide,
Speaker 2: it's thirty five miles long, like.
Speaker 3: GDS is tiny.
Speaker 2: They's just And I heard somebody tell me that, well,
Speaker 2: Israel gave gods back in two thousand and five. I
Speaker 2: need to be more informed, And I'm like, that's a
Speaker 2: weird way to give back. You tell me they gave back,
Speaker 2: but they ain't got no army, they ain't got no
Speaker 2: gut dang, they don't got no municipalities. They the power,
Speaker 2: the water, the food, the borders is all controlled by
Speaker 2: the other nation. That don't sound like that's giving back
Speaker 2: to me. And you can't leave, like I just don't
Speaker 2: seem like that don't sound like giving back to me.
Speaker 2: All that to say, the radicalization of groups like Hamas,
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna say probably probably has blood in their ear,
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna let this shit ride.
Speaker 3: You're gonna let them keep treating you like this.
Speaker 2: But their radicalization was situational, like they just it's hard
Speaker 2: to not imagine Native American tribes if this was seventeen
Speaker 2: seventies something and Native Americans had their hands on some
Speaker 2: of the same that they wouldn't have done the same.
Speaker 2: I just I can't, are we do you okay? Listen,
Speaker 2: let me pause this because I could already hear you.
Speaker 2: Do you want me to condemn the killing of innocent civilians?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you the same question. That's the pause
Speaker 2: was on purpose because that's what war is like, and
Speaker 2: it's and it's hard to even call this a war
Speaker 2: because one of them don't got an army like this.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say right now, Like, of
Speaker 2: course it's disgusting. People always wanted black people to condemn
Speaker 2: riots and condemn looting like war. Can you well, you're
Speaker 2: not condoning these actions. I'm like, you want me to
Speaker 2: do that, but you want me to do that and
Speaker 2: compartmentalize it. The ship, the people going through that caused it,
Speaker 2: the powder keg. But doctor King talked about it like
Speaker 2: I can't condone this. I can't condemn this violence without
Speaker 2: talking about the powder keg that these cities were sitting on,
Speaker 2: like I can't now. Granted, I understand we still talk
Speaker 2: about war crimes. That's why I started with the original story.
Speaker 2: They war crimes like you duh. But yeah, So once
Speaker 2: Israel became a nation, it started just chunking off different
Speaker 2: regions and saying, Okay, look, this is what we gonna do.
Speaker 2: We ain't leaving, Like I don't know if you've ever heard,
Speaker 2: you know, some of the reparations they're starting to talk
Speaker 2: about among Native Americans here and they're like, man, well
Speaker 2: what can we America's like, well, what can we do
Speaker 2: to make this better? And Native tribes is like, you
Speaker 2: can give us our land back, which is the obvious
Speaker 2: right you and I both know that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I don't even know why you asked, like, nigga, you
Speaker 2: ask how you're gonna make it? Right, Nigga, you give
Speaker 2: us our landback? When people say Palestine's not even willing
Speaker 2: to negotiate, because they're like, I mean, it's already at
Speaker 2: a loss, like y'all not leaving. I understand Israel being
Speaker 2: like I don't want to hear nobody else tell us
Speaker 2: that we can't be nowhere. I totally understand that. So
Speaker 2: they're going through these negotiations, if you will. The problem
Speaker 2: is Israel has the most state of the are military
Speaker 2: like on the planet, and they got the back end
Speaker 2: of everybody, and you're fighting against the city of Seattle.
Speaker 2: So like, I mean, of course it's going to be
Speaker 2: a blood bad right, So they just so anyway, so
Speaker 2: Israel kept chunking away, they kept agreeing to these certain things,
Speaker 2: and then like if you like, I remember when I
Speaker 2: went again, when I went into East Jerusalem into Bethlehem
Speaker 2: and they're like, this is Palestine. I'm like, okay, dope,
Speaker 2: what about those dope condos over there? They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: those are Israeli settlements. Like wait, you mean to tell me, okay,
Speaker 2: you mean to tell me this the part that they
Speaker 2: gave you. But then they still took part of what
Speaker 2: they gave you. It's like yeah, I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: so they didn't give you nothing and give us nothing,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it's like again I
Speaker 2: had to believe my own eyes. I was like, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is I mean, it's kind of what's happening now.
Speaker 2: That being said, from an Israeli perspective, it's a quality
Speaker 2: of life situation where they could be like use it
Speaker 2: the same argument, like damn, can we pay for your water?
Speaker 4: Nigga?
Speaker 3: We pay for.
Speaker 2: Your power cuz like we your military, Like damn, nigga,
Speaker 2: you get to be I mean, what else do you want?
Speaker 3: Homie?
Speaker 2: Like shit, that's that would be like the Israeli side, Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, all y'all, do yon't even say thank you?
Speaker 3: Just bomb us?
Speaker 2: You just keep telling us we ain't doing shit right.
Speaker 2: It's like, goddamn nigga, Like fuck, this is israel side,
Speaker 2: Like what more can we do? Like we're not leaving,
Speaker 2: I mean, got out of bread, like we're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out a way for us to like work, Like
Speaker 2: I mean, shit, bro, But that brings us to now.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all remember last year there was
Speaker 2: a bombing some violence that happened in one of Islam's
Speaker 2: most holiest days, in one of their holiest temples, on
Speaker 2: one of their most holy says.
Speaker 3: You remember that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: According to Hamas, they're like this what we retaliating against?
Speaker 2: Like y'all can't y'all just can't keep doing this to us.
Speaker 2: I want you to feel the pain we felt and
Speaker 2: continue to feel, because this is just one day for y'all.
Speaker 2: We've been going through this for seventy years. The pain
Speaker 2: you feeling today, we've been going through for seventy years.
Speaker 2: You would think that this is a podcast of approving
Speaker 2: of that, and it's not. The idea that this was
Speaker 2: unprovoked is laughable. The provoking started. You'd have to go
Speaker 2: back to them out in an empire. Now, my final
Speaker 2: thesis is how do.
Speaker 3: You reverse engineer piece? Because the truth is that's really
Speaker 3: my desire.
Speaker 4: For the world. All right, next, all right.
Speaker 2: At the grandular individual level, which is why I'm talking
Speaker 2: about this piece thing, the suffering is unimaginable, whether it's continued,
Speaker 2: a continuous suffering of the Palestinians, whether it's the moves
Speaker 2: that Hamas is making, whether it's it's the specific situations
Speaker 2: that are happening with you know, citizens of Israel and
Speaker 2: citizens of Palestine, whatever it.
Speaker 3: Is, there's the sufferings unimaginable.
Speaker 2: Again, as somebody who we're inner city kids, we get it.
Speaker 3: The carnage, the carnage is unthinkable.
Speaker 2: So we used to do our stop the violence, you know,
Speaker 2: pursuits our peace treaties. When you talk to somebody who's
Speaker 2: really living that life and in their brain they're thinking,
Speaker 2: you want me to sit across the table. This man
Speaker 2: killed potentially killed a fourth of my family. They ain't
Speaker 2: no peace. Fuck your truths, Like like Kendrick says, like,
Speaker 2: there's there's no like crawl your head in that news.
Speaker 2: There is no you know that. And that's what That's
Speaker 2: what this type of violence and suffering causes in a person.
Speaker 2: But if you really want to see that type of
Speaker 2: world peace that I think we all hope for, if
Speaker 2: that's your goal, like I had a business partner say,
Speaker 2: is if your goals in ten years you want this,
Speaker 2: we need to reverse engineer that. Well what needs to
Speaker 2: happen first, you know, and what steps need to be
Speaker 2: taken to see that?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: You know me, I wrote a book called Terror for
Speaker 2: you know. So I'm listen. I'm a dreamer. I'm real,
Speaker 2: I'm as real as it comes.
Speaker 3: But I'm a dreamer. Right now, I'm gonna be a dreamer.
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: The first thing you gotta do is we got to
Speaker 2: end colonialism. You have to end imperialism. You have to
Speaker 2: end partheis. You have to end it. You have to
Speaker 2: end our modern geopolitical way we run nation states like
Speaker 2: you have to. You can't have empires because this is why.
Speaker 2: How is Israel enforcing their borders? It's violence? How else
Speaker 2: could you because no one would accept these terms. No
Speaker 2: one would accept these terms. That's what you're witnessing. Nobody's
Speaker 2: accepting these terms. I just get you have to enforce
Speaker 2: it by violence. Now, if you don't want to accept it,
Speaker 2: how do you resist it?
Speaker 3: Or you resist what's by violence? You resist?
Speaker 2: That's what that's how you But if there wasn't a
Speaker 2: thing right, if there was, if the colonialism purely like,
Speaker 2: if there wasn't a thing right you didn't have, you
Speaker 2: wouldn't have to enforce borders that way. Like the homies
Speaker 2: that search for common grounds say, you know, conflict is unavoidable,
Speaker 2: but violence is a choice. We don't have conflicts when
Speaker 2: you got murder each other. Why are borders like that?
Speaker 2: Why why are that happened?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: Because our economic model, our capitalism, whatever the model is,
Speaker 2: our economic model is based on scarcity. It's controlling a resources.
Speaker 2: The idea of like I think there's this thing with
Speaker 2: like like loitering laws. Like like, if you think about
Speaker 2: loitering laws, what they're saying is you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: be somewhere doing nothing. Like you can't just be outside
Speaker 2: doing nothing Like that's loitering because the land you're standing
Speaker 2: on belongs to someone, or maybe it doesn't, and if
Speaker 2: it doesn't, you still can't do that. It means it
Speaker 2: belonged to the state, and the state get to say
Speaker 2: this park is closed to ten o'clock, Like you just
Speaker 2: can't just be outside.
Speaker 3: Like so when you control.
Speaker 2: Resources, you're if your whole model is based on scarcity,
Speaker 2: then it requires an enforcement of that scarcity to maintain
Speaker 2: your system.
Speaker 3: When we talked about like looting, you know why is looting?
Speaker 2: At the end of Hurricane Katrina Nigga, y'all talk about looting,
Speaker 2: I don't understand. A hurricane just happened. We just everybody hungry.
Speaker 2: I don't understand. How was you talking about?
Speaker 3: What do you mean looting? I would love to pay
Speaker 3: the guy for the for the.
Speaker 2: You want me to leave five dollars on the counter?
Speaker 2: Jup said, Like what you want me to do? Like
Speaker 2: it's the city's underwater, Like, I, well, there's food at
Speaker 2: the shelter. How you how you how you think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get there? Like it just I just like it's
Speaker 2: so preposteros. Right, So I'm saying, if you're gonna protect
Speaker 2: your little store, the only way to do it is you.
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta put a gun in my face
Speaker 2: because if it's me and if you coming between me
Speaker 2: and my child's play, the food nigga is violence, you'd
Speaker 2: have to You'd have to you have to rethink all that.
Speaker 2: I have to do away with racial supremacy. I'm about
Speaker 2: outlawing it, like it has to go away. You have to,
Speaker 2: because it's racial supremacy. Like if you look at the
Speaker 2: doctrine of the Discovery, like you look at what we
Speaker 2: looking at right now, Like these people really think that
Speaker 2: some people's lives are just worthless. Like if y'all would
Speaker 2: just stay in y'all place, if you just you just
Speaker 2: you just really view these other people on the other
Speaker 2: side of this border as like they pawns in a war.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We trying to make a
Speaker 3: bigger point here.
Speaker 2: I just I mean, how can you how else can
Speaker 2: you justify what chattel slavery was? If you if you
Speaker 2: understand that the Africans are humans like you can't us
Speaker 2: to find a holocaust if you don't think you think
Speaker 2: Jews are You can't justify what we did to the
Speaker 2: Native Americans if you don't call them savages. It's the
Speaker 2: same language you're hearing about immigration right now. Racial supremacy,
Speaker 2: that type of like racism, that type of thinking makes violence. Okay, man,
Speaker 2: fuck them over there. So before you start talking about, oh,
Speaker 2: I just want peace, I just want peace, Okay, you
Speaker 2: gotta think about the things that have to happen for
Speaker 2: us to see that piece. And my question to you
Speaker 2: is how bad do.
Speaker 3: You want peace? The politics y'all?
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