1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: If tackle isn't an option and we're looking at tight 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: end in cornerback, do you just automatically go corner because 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: of the value of the position. 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I don't think automatic thing. It depends on their board. Ryan, 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: You know how that goes the old board? 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Right? 7 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Where do we have them ranked? And if you have 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: the tight end ranked higher, why not? I mean, tight 9 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: end is a quarterback's best friend, right, and you go 10 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: get another one? My goodness? And in this draft where 11 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: you're sitting think about it. Dunton Kinkaid might still be 12 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: sitting there, Michael Mayer could still be sitting there. If 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: you like Luke Musgrave, if you like Sam Laporte, if 14 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: you like a lot of tight ends in this one. 15 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: That may be the reason some people would say I'd 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: go get the other position because I can come back 17 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: get a tight. 18 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: End later in a draft that is said to not 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: be deep, right, three four rounds, and that's where the 20 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: impact guys come from. Would you be aggressive this year 21 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: or would you be looking towards next year and trying 22 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: to stockpile. 23 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: I never try to look too far towards next year 24 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: because I don't know what's gonna happen for me. I 25 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: don't know where I'm gonna be drafting. I don't know 26 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: how my season's gonna go. 27 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: Le me time. 28 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: I've seen one of those articles. Somebody always writes an 29 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: article when it like for the quarterbacks this year, Well, 30 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: would it be wise to not draft quarterback this year 31 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: and just go get Caleb Williams from USC next year? Well, 32 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: if I knew I was gonna get him, sure, I 33 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: don't know where I'm gonna be, am I even gonna 34 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: be in range? Is he gonna be the same guy 35 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: next year? Is he gonna be thought of as the 36 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: number one guy? Brian? How many times have we seen 37 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: a guy as a freshman or a sophomore he's the 38 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: number one guy and by the time he comes out, 39 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: he's going in the seventh round. Now, that's not gonna happen. 40 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: Michaeleb was, It's not my point. It's just I don't 41 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: play for tomorrow. I've worked for today. 42 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: So we started this by talking about the fact that 43 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars were in unusual territory at twenty four. They've had 44 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: the number one pick the two previous seasons. Let me 45 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: ask you about those guys. We'll start with Trayvon Walker, 46 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: he had a productive year, but he didn't have that 47 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: explosive year. What would you expect from him in year two? 48 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: I expect to see more of why he was drafted, 49 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: more of those traits developing. Remember he wasn't asked to 50 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: rush the passer as often at Georgia as other people were, 51 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: so when they were banking on is he has the traits, 52 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: he has the explosives, he has the ability, where's the 53 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: work coming in and when we see it pay off 54 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: on the field. That's why we don't judge it on 55 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: one year because remember he was taken for we call 56 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: it traits eight nutch That was taken because production, even 57 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: though both of them had but Hutchinson's production was way 58 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: off the board, and because he had that big year. 59 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: If I say, well you should have, let's wait and 60 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: see and see how it goes. We had the same 61 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: thing this year with Tyree Wilson and will will Anderson. 62 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: Which way you going? Will Anderson's sack numbers are like 63 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: double Tyree Wilson's in college, but a lot of people 64 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: like Tyree Wilson. 65 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: The up side when you look at him. 66 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: When you look at him, you're like, I like that 67 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: a lot. So I would expect Walker to make a 68 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: move in that direction. You know, he's had a full 69 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: year plan. He'll be asked to go get to quarterback more. 70 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: Here's his opportunity. 71 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: And then let's finish with a guy who's giving everyone 72 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: optimism in Jacksonville. And and that's Trevor Lawrence. Year one, 73 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: for reasons that had nothing to do with him, was 74 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: a complete disaster. Two, well, we saw how that one 75 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: ended up. What do you see from him? 76 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: I just think that when we go back to the 77 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: playoff game and it's halftime and he's had a rough 78 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: first ask to put it mildly, and the head coach 79 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: is just like, he's fine, we just got to do this, 80 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: we got to do that, and then it all came together. 81 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: I don't know that I saw a better moment in 82 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: the NFL last year. A coach understanding how to work 83 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: with his young quarterback what his team needed at that time, 84 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: and then them feeling it from their head coach and 85 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: it translating. And that's what you saw with that young man. 86 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: He is who we thought he was going to be 87 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: coming out of school. This year's class, we poke holes 88 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: in every quarterback. There weren't many. We poked into Trevor Lawrence. 89 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: We thought he's going to be a dude. He's headed 90 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: towards being a dude.