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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Betting Pros podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris. Find me

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Speaker 2: on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. It is entering week fourteen.

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Speaker 2: It is time to take an early look at the

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Speaker 2: NFL lines for this weekend. With me to do that

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Speaker 2: is Joe PiZZ at PA from Betting Pros right here.

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Speaker 2: Find him on Twitter at what Joe P's at PA seventeen?

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: I've only done seventeen thousand podcasts with you, I should

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Speaker 2: know your Twitter handle.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, welcome Joe.

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Speaker 2: How are you riding insanely high after that grotesque Patriots

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Speaker 2: win last night?

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Speaker 3: It was a game of chess last night, Danny boy,

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Speaker 3: it was a game of chess in the wind. And

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Speaker 3: I'm about you, but when I played chess in the wind,

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Speaker 3: I always like to have Bill Belichick with me right

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Speaker 3: next to me. And yeah, you know, two out of

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Speaker 3: three and bad is that old meat Loaf song? And

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Speaker 3: that was pretty much Mac Jones's statline last night. Two

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Speaker 3: out of three passes and that was good enough. Some

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Speaker 3: very good defense at the end. Next man up there after,

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Speaker 3: Adrian Phillips comes off the field, and what a great

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Speaker 3: play by a backup defensive back there to kind of

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Speaker 3: save the game at the end. So certainly not a

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Speaker 3: high scoring affair. But if you love old timey defense football,

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Speaker 3: then you enjoyed it. And if you're a Patriots fan

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Speaker 3: like me, you definitely enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: I apparently engage in hyperbole too much, because when my

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Speaker 2: wife asked, oh, how was the game? I was like,

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Speaker 2: it was the most amazing game I've ever seen, Like,

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Speaker 2: not in a great way, but justin ay, you don't

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Speaker 2: see a quarterback of ten three passes And she basically says,

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Speaker 2: I say that like one out of.

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Speaker 1: Every three or four games.

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Speaker 2: So I need to tone it down because that really

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Speaker 2: was something where you're not going to see that again,

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Speaker 2: you know, absent.

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Speaker 3: There will be more passes in the third and fourth

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Speaker 3: grade flag football teams that I coach in January, when

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Speaker 3: that league starts up the third and fourth graders, they

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Speaker 3: will be more passing than there was in this game.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely nuts, but enjoyable. Get to watch nonethe last. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's get into it. Joe got a lot of lines

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Speaker 2: d C, Arizona, Nyoming. Let's go to Thursday game, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Let's start it there. The Steelers are visiting the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings are laying three points here and the total

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Speaker 2: is forty four and a half. Steelers off the big

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Speaker 2: win here over the Ravens, which you and I were

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Speaker 2: just talking about as investors in Lamar Jackson for our

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Speaker 2: MVP and the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: You know, they give the Lions their first win.

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Speaker 2: They lose Adam Thielen, so they are favored though here,

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Speaker 2: and it is I will say again the consensus line

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Speaker 2: is three, Joe, but it is three and a half

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Speaker 2: and a lot of books here.

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Speaker 1: So how are you feeling about this one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I mean Look, this is the bare minimum,

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Speaker 3: right Whenever you have a home team you don't believe in,

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Speaker 3: you just kind of throw the three on them. That's

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Speaker 3: what Vegas does typically. And I gotta be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the journey of the Viking season

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Speaker 3: where they're in every game, every game is closed, every

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Speaker 3: game they have a lead, the games they lose, they

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Speaker 3: blow the lead. And in this one, who would not

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Speaker 3: shock me whatsoever to get back to Minnesota here in

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Speaker 3: who have not played great football, who seem very sluggish,

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore Ravens got a little too big for

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Speaker 3: their breeches in that last game. So I actually like

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota side of this game to win. And I

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Speaker 3: think that they still got plenty of weapons here, justin

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Speaker 3: Jefferson plays out of his mind. They've still got Osbourne

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Speaker 3: very useful. So whether or not that defense can show

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers. So in my opinion, I actually would

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Speaker 3: to bet Minnesota every time you think it's done, Oh

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Speaker 3: they just lost to the Lions. Oh well, I can't

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Speaker 3: bet them anymore. Where I'm gonna go against them, No,

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Speaker 3: it's the opposite. So just continue with that trend because

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Speaker 3: that's who they've been all season long. Dan, But what

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Speaker 3: do you think about them? And what do you think

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Speaker 3: about this forty four and a half?

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Speaker 1: I like the over a little bit, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I do think that the Steelers when they went to

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Speaker 2: a little bit of the no huddle in the second half,

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Speaker 2: had a big game, so I do think that they

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Speaker 2: are going to be points in this game. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: defense has shown a lot of cracks. They've been dealing

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Speaker 1: I don't mind the over.

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Speaker 2: I don't really have a great feel for the spread.

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Speaker 2: As I look at this, this I guess feels about right.

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Speaker 2: But you're correct. The Vikings are always going to play

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Speaker 2: a very close game here and the Steelers coming off

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Speaker 2: that win, you feel like there could easily be.

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Speaker 1: A letdown spot right here and the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Every time you basically want to be out on the Vikings,

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Speaker 2: that's when they come through, right So I think for me, Jo,

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Speaker 2: it's to stay away here on the side just you know,

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Speaker 2: three points.

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Speaker 1: But on the tuttal I like the over.

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Speaker 2: I am wondering though, Joe, if it's three and a

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Speaker 2: it's three, but at three and a half.

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Speaker 1: Do you does that change how you feel about it

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Speaker 3: It does with the half, I think with the hook,

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Speaker 3: then you start to look a little bit on Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: to cover there, because it probably will be a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You know it's going to be in that range at least,

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Speaker 3: But look at this point in time, on the short

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Speaker 3: week two, whenever you have to travel, that's always hard.

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Speaker 3: It's a very emotional game. And what we've learned too

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Speaker 3: not gonna be surprised. Look at Cincinnati last week. That's

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Speaker 3: got their doors blow enough by the Chargers, basically. So

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Speaker 3: I see that same kind of thing happening here to

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, it's just this is the trend of

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Speaker 3: the perfect time to get in on it because I

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Speaker 3: think everybody will be pounding the Steelers side of this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do expect that.

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Speaker 2: I expect more people to come in on the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: which is why I'm a little surprised.

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Speaker 1: Again, this is one of those.

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Speaker 2: Where it looks like the books are completely fine with

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Speaker 2: make me a little nervous. So, Joe, have you looked

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Speaker 2: I know what we talked about when we do this

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Speaker 2: which is we come in fresh, like we don't look

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Speaker 1: Have you looked at any of the lines before we.

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Speaker 3: A single line. My friend, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna ask you. I'm going to ask you something. There's

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Speaker 1: no wrong answer here.

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Speaker 2: What do you expect with the Ravens coming off that

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Speaker 2: the season, Ravens visiting the Browns, what would you expect

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Speaker 2: the spread to be in that game?

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Speaker 3: Because answer, it's it's in Cleveland. I would expect Cleveland

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Speaker 3: to be favored by not by the full three, That's

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Speaker 3: what I would think. So it's probably two and a

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Speaker 2: Right, it is two and a half. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: two and a half. The total is a low forty

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Speaker 2: two and a half. So again, the Ravens here, they

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Speaker 2: just look out of sort. You know, they don't look

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Speaker 2: they don't have everything working. They're still eight and four,

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Speaker 2: obviously they're leading the division. The Browns, you know, Baker

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Speaker 2: looks like his body is holding on by a thread.

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Speaker 1: At this point.

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Speaker 2: They are coming off the buy, so maybe a little healthier.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Joe under the three?

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Speaker 1: You had it right?

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Speaker 2: It's two at DraftKings where I bet, But it's pretty

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Speaker 2: much two and a half everywhere else in a low

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Speaker 3: Well, now that I'm going to look at it right here,

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Speaker 3: on Baltimore. I think that is your best bet right there.

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Speaker 3: And I see eighty three percent of the bets have

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Speaker 3: you a lot right there. And I don't think that

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Speaker 3: miss Matthew Judon in that pass rush. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's the one thing that you're not seeing. This team's

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Speaker 3: not getting to the quarterback. And that's a bad commodation

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Speaker 3: because when you lose Marlon Humphrey, right, who plays so

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Speaker 3: well in the secondary, then you lose a good corner

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Speaker 3: the cornerback. That's a bad situation. Now, the good news

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Speaker 3: I prefer just an outright win for Baltimore here, Like,

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Speaker 3: forget the spreads, forget everything. Take the plus one fifteen

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Speaker 3: on the money line. That's gonna be their best bet here,

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Speaker 3: I think in any of these because Baltimore should have

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Speaker 3: won that game. Baltimore is a I still think a

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Speaker 3: better team than the Cleveland Browns. Now, we'll see if

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns can get you know, Nick Chubb and Kareem

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Speaker 3: this game is going to be very tight. But these

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Speaker 3: tight individual games are typically once I stay away from.

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Speaker 3: I would rather just pick a side rather than mess

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Speaker 3: around with anything else. And I think picking the side

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Speaker 3: of the Baltimore Ravens is what I would do because

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Speaker 3: they have that one difference maker guy in Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 3: who could just take over a game, and I think

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Speaker 3: that ends up becoming the difference of this one.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Dah, Yeah, I like the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I think that the loss of Humphrey is big, but

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Speaker 2: because they don't really you know, they're the passing game

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Speaker 1: Bet. What do you think about the total show? It's

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Speaker 2: That's low, but you know, neither one of these teams

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, this was a really tough one to gauge

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Speaker 3: if anything, I would lean towards the under because of

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Speaker 3: so I wouldn't even screw around with anything else. Game.

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Speaker 2: Only a mother could love the Falcons visiting the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: The Panthers are laying three, and the total at forty

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Speaker 2: give that to the Falcons there they fight Panthers off

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very small total. And I really like

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Speaker 3: then he had a good game, and then he had

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Speaker 3: things out? Theoretically, yes, and you have a lesser opponent

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Speaker 3: puts them in position for a touchdown this game. I

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Speaker 3: where I would lean in this game. The forty three

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Speaker 3: why I don't care for the over under in this game.

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Speaker 3: So I would just take Carolina with the three because

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Speaker 3: But once again, you know, we could also see Atlanta

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Speaker 3: score you know, thirteen in this game and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden not nearly as excited of it. Over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do lean a little bit towards the under,

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Speaker 2: just because I mean, basically, why would you know.

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Speaker 1: The word is that Brady was fired because he didn't run.

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Speaker 2: The ball enough, And you know, I feel like, you've

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Speaker 2: try to make something happen that's going to lean itself

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Speaker 2: So I leaned the under. I'm not going to back

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Speaker 2: in a divisional game with Cam coming off, you know,

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Speaker 2: staying away from that. Cam Newton, what did you think.

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Speaker 3: Of the Joe Brady firing?

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Speaker 3: What do you think about the Joe Brady situation? There

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Speaker 3: don't no man like its veruzzling to me.

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Speaker 2: It was, yeah, I was surprised that you got to

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Speaker 2: like when they traded for Gilmore and they you know,

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Speaker 2: they make signings every single time they've got anything.

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Speaker 1: They've been all in.

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Speaker 2: And the bottom line is, I don't really know what

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Speaker 2: have a poo poo platter of revolving quarterbacks like Sam

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Speaker 2: Donald played very well the first few games, and I

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Speaker 2: he wasn't. So I think it seems a little strange

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Speaker 2: to me to fire him midseason. But they really do

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Speaker 2: seem like a team that had playoff aspirations, which they did,

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Speaker 2: blame somebody, man.

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Speaker 3: So that's how we have a college coaching job. In

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Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, Jaguars visiting the Titans. The Titans are laying

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Speaker 2: nine and a half total forty four.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, let's bring this one of the Titans.

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Speaker 1: This is the game.

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Speaker 3: If you're the Titans, you kind of win this and

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Speaker 3: you control your destiny no matter how many injuries you've had.

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Speaker 3: Nine and a half seems like a big number for

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Speaker 3: I know they're talking about getting Julio Jones back. I

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Speaker 3: just I just look, the Titans should win this game.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the Titans will win this game. Nine and

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Speaker 3: this offense right now. So I would actually lean to

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Speaker 3: the Jacksonville side of this that did take the points

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Speaker 3: with the nine and a half, just because and it's

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Speaker 3: it's not because I have any confidence in Jacksonville whatsoever,

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Speaker 3: but it just feels as though the Tennessee Titans offense

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Speaker 3: That's my problem here.

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Speaker 2: It's actually eight and a half for you, Joe at Fandel,

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Speaker 2: it's nine and a half everywhere else. So Fandel's sort

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Speaker 2: of drawn a line in the said, yeah, nine and

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Speaker 2: a half.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I like the Jaguars as well, which is it's the

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Speaker 2: first time, Joe that I think I've said I'm willing

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Speaker 2: to back.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars this right now. And again, yeah, Julio has

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's gonna play this weekend, but it

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Speaker 2: does mean that he is twenty one days and it's

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Speaker 2: a good sign.

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Speaker 1: For his availability.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, this is a game. Titans need to win

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Speaker 2: this game, like, I mean, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: At this point, we're joking about the Colts and what

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Speaker 2: they were to win the division right at this point there,

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Speaker 2: what was it, Joe, seventy to one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, seventy to one for the Colts. Now, look, if

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Speaker 3: things we go very dicey, very quickly. It's fascinating that

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Speaker 3: eighty percent of the money is on the Tennessee side

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Speaker 3: of this game early on.

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Speaker 1: That I'm sure the Lakes haven't hit it yet right the.

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Speaker 3: Last No, they haven't. But I'm saying that it's the

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Speaker 3: lazy of the general public just saying Titans Jaguar. That's

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Speaker 3: exactly why you take this nine and a half when you.

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Speaker 2: Got it's going to be a pros Joe's game, man,

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Speaker 2: Like it really is, right. I think people are going

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Speaker 2: to be like the Titans that you know, they're coming

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Speaker 2: off the by they're going to get things right, and

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Speaker 2: they are extremely well coached, and the Jaguars are dumpter fire,

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Speaker 2: but the Titan.

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Speaker 1: Actually I lean the under as.

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Speaker 2: Well, Joe, because I do think that the Titans are

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Speaker 2: going to do in this game is they are not

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Speaker 2: going to take chances. They're gonna you know, relax, there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a lot of you know, do you

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Speaker 2: have to foreman, There's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 2: Dontrell Hilliard, maybe some Lulio Jones, but they're going to

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Speaker 2: take their spots again without who even with him man,

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Speaker 2: like you know he's been battling injury again. What are

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Speaker 2: you looking at him in that? Nick Westbrookakina, right, that's

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Speaker 3: It's twenty thirteen. Gets this done for us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I I you know the underwear at forty four

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Speaker 2: and again unders are disgusting, but I'm willing to.

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Speaker 3: Be unders on forty four.

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Speaker 2: It's really cross Saints visiting the Jets. The Saints are

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Speaker 2: laying just had dead number here at five and a half.

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Speaker 2: Another load a lot of all.

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Speaker 1: Totals this week, Joe forty three and a half here

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot of low totals last week too.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's also indicative of the quarterback player.

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Speaker 3: You're getting to be getting a lot of backup quarterback,

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Speaker 3: and you're also getting that point in the year too,

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Speaker 3: where it's going to change in the next few weeks

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Speaker 3: when defenses start checking out and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: these tolls are going to get obliterated because teams are

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Speaker 3: going to just say, what times my playing reservation? Oh yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm out of here.

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Speaker 2: And it's also it's also cold, like it's something where

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this this is gonna flip in two weeks considerably.

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Speaker 3: you get two weeks seventeen and eighteen, look for overs.

440
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Speaker 3: Even on games you don't think it's gonna be an

441
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Speaker 3: over because, like I said, defenses just kind of start

442
00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,679
Speaker 3: two fold of the tense, and nobody wants to get

443
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,440
Speaker 3: hit for no reason, to get hurt when they've got

444
00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,000
Speaker 3: contracts coming up in things of that nature. New Orleans

445
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,439
Speaker 3: should win this one in a walk.

446
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:21,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

447
00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,399
Speaker 3: And defensively, certainly they match up. It's funny because you know,

448
00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,240
Speaker 3: the Jets for some reason feel more competitive when Zach

449
00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,199
Speaker 3: Wilson's not playing quarterback. For me, but I gotta give

450
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,840
Speaker 3: him credit to have a win a couple weeks ago.

451
00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,359
Speaker 3: Both not a good game against the Eagles this past week, I.

452
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Speaker 1: Mean over the Texans, Joe, Let's.

453
00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,280
Speaker 3: I know, it's still he got a w. You beat

454
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Speaker 3: the Titans, you.

455
00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,440
Speaker 1: Beat the Texts. I also, like, I'm not saying anything

456
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Speaker 1: bad about Zach Wilson ninety.

457
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Speaker 2: He has not played well, certainly in the in the

458
00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,840
Speaker 2: second part of the season, but I want to make

459
00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,840
Speaker 2: it clear, like I'm not drawing any conclusions on him

460
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,480
Speaker 2: long term yet they need a better team around him.

461
00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's really hard to have any confidence in

462
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,919
Speaker 2: against against the decent defense.

463
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Speaker 3: Well, I just think the New Orleans roster right now

464
00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,600
Speaker 3: overmatches them. And New Orleans has a lot of problems, granted,

465
00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,760
Speaker 3: but the biggest problem they have is in the coverage,

466
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Speaker 3: and that's something that the Jets are not a prolific

467
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,200
Speaker 3: passing team. So to me, it's that five and a

468
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,199
Speaker 3: half is pretty safe with New Orleans. I'm actually surprised

469
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,159
Speaker 3: only fifty six percent of the money early on has

470
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Speaker 3: gone to the New Orleans side of this game at the.

471
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Speaker 1: Five and a half.

472
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Speaker 3: That is actually a little surprising to me.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man like, it's probably just a

474
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Speaker 2: game I want to stay away from.

475
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Speaker 1: I could see the Jet.

476
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Saints are really not playing like a

477
00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,800
Speaker 2: very good football team here. Joe there, you know, and

478
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,720
Speaker 2: Hill obviously is the quarterback. He can run. They should

479
00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,200
Speaker 2: just run them, you know, in the wildcat every play.

480
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 2: That's all unless Kamara comes back here, which again we

481
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 2: have question marks about. But they should just run them

482
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Speaker 2: every play, and they could probably put up a touchdown

483
00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,040
Speaker 2: on you know, seventy five percent their drives just doing

484
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,080
Speaker 2: that without throwing the ball at all, little mac jone style.

485
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,680
Speaker 2: But it's really as as sort of mediocre as the

486
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Speaker 2: Saints have been of late, it's really difficult to see

487
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,120
Speaker 2: them off the mini by here coming on Thursday, needing

488
00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960
Speaker 2: a win again five and seven. It puts you in

489
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 2: contention for that seventh playoff spot right now. We're just

490
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,280
Speaker 2: talking about it with the Falcons and the Panthers.

491
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Speaker 1: They need win.

492
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 2: They're gonna come out, They're gonna play angry, they're gonna

493
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 2: play hard. It's just gonna it's tough to see the

494
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 2: Jets keeping it close. At the same time, just this

495
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,640
Speaker 2: dead number Matt Prout always has like when it's five

496
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:10,919
Speaker 2: and a half, four and a half, five and a half,

497
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 2: books are just kind of throwing up their hands and

498
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 2: being like, I don't really know what we're doing right now,

499
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,720
Speaker 2: so I'll probably stay away from it entirely. This next one, though, Joe,

500
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 2: find myself intrigued by is. I just took a look

501
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 2: at it as I looked ahead to our next game.

502
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 2: The Raiders are visiting the Chiefs. The Chiefs have won

503
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 2: what five in a row? I think nine and a

504
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,920
Speaker 2: half They are laying to the Raiders. The total is

505
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,400
Speaker 2: pretty high, forty eight and a half. What's your gut reaction.

506
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Speaker 1: This one, Joe? Is that about right?

507
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,360
Speaker 3: Two?

508
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 2: Nine and a half?

509
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 3: You know what? It's The nine and a half is

510
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 3: correct for the Chiefs of yesteryear. For the Chiefs of

511
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 3: this year, it's a little puzzling, but it feels like

512
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 3: something that they could handle. My initial gut reaction is

513
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 3: the under though in the forty eight and a half,

514
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 3: because they just haven't looked great. And the hard part

515
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 3: is because now we're gonna go back and look a

516
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 3: couple weeks ago and how Patrick Mahomes absolutely dismantled this team, right, remember,

517
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 3: right one hundred yards against him a few weeks ago.

518
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 3: So I think that's why you're seeing this nine and

519
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 3: a half, and that's why you're seeing all this confidence

520
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,119
Speaker 3: in Patrick Mahomes all of a sudden after it's not

521
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 3: even Patrick Mahomes, it's really the offense is a unit altogether.

522
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 3: And he says it in the press comp too. You

523
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 3: saw him this past week. It's like, yeah, we won,

524
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 3: but we're still you know, missing opportunities, and they are

525
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 3: and the offensive line still has not really gelled together yet.

526
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 3: And it's week fourteen, So if it hasn't shelled yet,

527
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 3: I don't know what we're waiting for at this point.

528
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 3: This was the high point in their season though, playing

529
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 3: the Raiders, it's ken you do it twice, and honestly,

530
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 3: the way the Kansasity defense has played this year, I

531
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 3: think the safest thing to do is just spent the

532
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 3: under here in the forty eight and a half, because

533
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 3: there's two things going in your favor. Number one is

534
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 3: the Las Vegas offense. Right Derek Waller's injured, you just

535
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 3: lose Kenny and Drake. They're kind of falling apart here

536
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 3: at the end. I think they're kind of like paced

537
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: together with glue and all kinds of things, and they're

538
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: just like glue sticks, not even real Elmer's glue, like

539
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: glue sticks. Just peel them right apart. And then the

540
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 3: other thing is the Kansasity defense, which over the last

541
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Speaker 3: month or so play significantly better. You put those two

542
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 3: things together, and I think you get the Under in

543
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 3: this game in the forty eight and a half. That's

544
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Speaker 3: what I would go to, and I would not miss

545
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 3: around with the nine at all.

546
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die here while I'm coughing, Joe, I think

547
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 2: I like both the Under and the Raiders.

548
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's scary. I agree.

549
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are content as they should be right now

550
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: because their defense has played so much better of late.

551
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: They are content to rely on their defense, which again

552
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 2: I think we just talked about that that leads us

553
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: towards the Under, both of us. But their offense right now, Joe,

554
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 2: as much as they did that against the Raiders, like

555
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: right now, they just do not look They almost don't

556
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: look interested necessarily and even putting up these giant points,

557
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: right they look interested in avoiding taking these too many

558
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: chances and just playing conservatively and not pushing it. And

559
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 2: you know, Mahomes also still doesn't look like Mahomes like

560
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: that much, at least with the offense, like he's dancing around,

561
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 2: dancing around, and then he's just firing it in there

562
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 2: and sort of these short throws. I think the Raiders

563
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: were able to keep this close enough, and I think

564
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: this is a game. You know, you come off a

565
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: Raiders of poor effort here in.

566
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: This last game. I think they keep it close enough here.

567
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: You know, I'd love it if it got to ten,

568
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: of course, but I mean at fox Bet it's nine.

569
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: At points Bet it's nine, so probably closer to there

570
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: than it would be to ten. I think you'd see

571
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: a lot of Sharp's hammer and if.

572
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: It got to there.

573
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 2: But I still like them at nine and a half.

574
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 2: But I do like the under as well at forty

575
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: eight and a half. I mean, the Chiefs are content

576
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: to rely on their defense, and their defense is playing

577
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 2: very well right now. So this strikes me as a

578
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: not close Joe, but closer than people expect lower scoring games.

579
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 2: So I think we're on the same sign on the total.

580
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Cowboys visiting the football team. The

581
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys on the road are laying four total. Here is

582
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: forty eight and a half. Washington is they're on a

583
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: roll here, Joe. I mean, they're relying on that run

584
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: game here with Gibson, They're no problem.

585
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: Giving him the ball.

586
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: They've got the defense despite the loss of Chase Young,

587
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: playing pretty well. Overall, well coached. Cowboys here are you know,

588
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: a little hit or myths, but they come off the

589
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: win against the Saints.

590
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: What do you think?

591
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: I think this number should be six on the side

592
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: of the Dallas Cowboys. I think the line is wrong

593
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: here personally, and whenever I think the line is wrong

594
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: and I want to jump on it right away. So

595
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: I actually think the Cowboys with the four is great

596
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 3: because yes, what you're seeing is a Washington team that

597
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: is very competitive and they play hard. But I just

598
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: think that they're going to be outmatched here. I think

599
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: if you look at some of these games that Washington's

600
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 3: played of late, you know, some of the competition, they

601
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: always played the Tampa Bay Bucks tough. I don't know why,

602
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: they just do. Some weird teams just have better team's numbers.

603
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: It's just a fact of life. Sometimes. I can't tell

604
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: you how many frustrating times I used to watch amazing

605
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: Patriot teams go into Miami and get their rear ended

606
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 3: hand into them for no reason, and we all look

607
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: at each other, what just happened? Why are we losing

608
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: in Miami. I don't understand that Tom Brady doesn't like

609
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 3: the heat. Apparently it's fine because now he plays in Tampa.

610
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: He wins Super Bowl's there. But to me, this Dallas offense,

611
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: especially with healthy CD Lamb, you can really, you know,

612
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: air it out here. And they've had some injuries to

613
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: this defense of Washington, So Washington it's an outstanding job.

614
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: They're well coached team, they have great effort. Antonio Gibson,

615
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 3: you're right, hows look good. But to me, it's the

616
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: Cowboys and it's the over in this one, and I

617
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: think this is actually going to be a very fun

618
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: fantasy game to be a part of. But the forty

619
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 3: and a half I like the over, and the four

620
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: I like right now because I think the numbers should

621
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: be five and a half or six for the Dallas Cowboys.

622
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: I think they are sally be a little bit extra

623
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: time to rest. I think they are favorites in this game,

624
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 3: and I know it's on the road, and that's probably

625
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: why you're getting the four, But I just feel like

626
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: the line's wrong.

627
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: Dan.

628
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, I don't love it. I

629
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: either side of the spread. I'm not running to take

630
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: Washington whatsoever. I just don't have a good bead right

631
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: now on the Cowboys.

632
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: They look a little disjointed.

633
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: But what you should have really for the first time, Joe,

634
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: I think is everybody kind of healthy for the Cowboys

635
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: on their offense, right, Like, at least in terms of

636
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 2: the skill players, because Amari Cooper, we knew he'd be

637
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: limited last week, right, we knew that he wouldn't be getting.

638
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: The normal snap count.

639
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: Zeke at times running looked like me running right like,

640
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: just sort of like try to not hurt himself. But

641
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: he did loosen up a little bit as the game

642
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: went on, and again Pollard looks good.

643
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: So they should have all their offensive weapons. I could

644
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: see that.

645
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I don't love the over

646
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: is because Washington is so run heavy and so conservative.

647
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Washington is able to put together these long

648
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: drives because every single time they gain a first down,

649
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: they're gaining thirteen yards, right, So it's like one of

650
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: these things where they take three plays to gain thirteen yards,

651
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: three more plays to gain fourteen yards before you know

652
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: they have a ten minute drive going on where they

653
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: settle for a field goal. So I don't lean the

654
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: over of anything. I lean the under, but it's probably

655
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: more of a stay away but a divisional game, man,

656
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to bet against Washington

657
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: right now, so I'll just stay.

658
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: With There's more piece to keep in mind for as

659
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: landing Collins being out, because Collins is playing very well

660
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: and he's very fersatile. He's a guy that plays safety

661
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: you can play linebacker like. He's a guy that you

662
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: could get a lot out of. I think this is

663
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 3: the game where that gets exposed because I don't think

664
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: they've hit since that injury. I don't think they've had

665
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: somebody on their schedule where they look it and go, okay,

666
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: really got it, Like you gotta worry abou Dallas throw

667
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: the football on you big time. So I think that's

668
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 3: where it kind of the rubber meets the road here

669
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 3: in this one. And I think that's where you know

670
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: the combination of Chase Young in the past rush of

671
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 3: the combination of Atlantic Collins being out too, I think

672
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 3: that's a bad combination for this particular.

673
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: Matchup, Seahawks visiting the Texans.

674
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: The Seahawks are laying seven and a half with the

675
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: toba of forty two and a half. We've got no

676
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: Torod Taylor. It doesn't really matter right now. He's gonna

677
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: be out for this game. So you got David Smells.

678
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 2: The Seahawks riding high after their big win over the

679
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, saved quote unquote their season, but laying

680
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: more in a touchdown here.

681
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: What do you think I think Torod Taylor's Charlie Brown.

682
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: I just I feel so terrible for toront telm Nothing

683
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: ever works out for this guy. Good grief, Good grief,

684
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: mister Taylor. I just want something, you know. This one

685
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: scares the hell out of me because theoretically, yeah, Seaws

686
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 3: should go in there and just blow their doors off.

687
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 3: But I have zero confidence in Seattle right now, so

688
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 3: this game feels kind of like a stay away of

689
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: anything to me. Maybe I go to the under on

690
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: the forty two because the inept to suit of the

691
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: Houston offense. That's probably the safest thing here, rather than

692
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: to screwn it all with the seven and a half,

693
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: because who knows what happens in garbage time in some

694
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: of these games, or or if Seattle can even hold

695
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: the lead. I don't know. All I know is the

696
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: forty two and a half, even though it's a very

697
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: low number, feels like the safest investment here. But this

698
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: is not a game that I feel good about investing

699
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 3: because Seattle has given me very little confidence. Despite a

700
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: big win last week, that's great, there's still a lot

701
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: of issues with this team, and once again big Indivision game,

702
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: big emotional win. Then you go on the road against Houston,

703
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: do you come out flat? And if you do, that

704
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: certainly helps with this under.

705
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: I think if I'm going to have a plan this game,

706
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: I'll tease the Seahawks down like test Fair one. So

707
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: I mean at draftings is one, it's seven, so I

708
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: could tease them to one. But at one and a half,

709
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: maybe that's it. That No, I don't want to force

710
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: myself to watch this game. I don't want to have

711
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: to be relying on the Seahawks to cover more than

712
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: seven points, right even though gun to my head, Joe,

713
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: I mean I'd probably take them at seven and a half,

714
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: just because I think the more plausible that the Texans

715
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: are so bad like they're so bad and they look

716
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: disinterested right now, which understandable completely. But it's again that

717
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks could as Wilson gets a little healthier,

718
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: a little more accurate, I could see them trying to

719
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: use this as a as a jumping off point for

720
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf, trying to throw a little bit get their

721
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: passing game right in the game. They should win handily,

722
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: so probably stay away from me if anything else, t

723
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: use the Seahawks down. Lions visiting the Broncos. Fresh off

724
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: the giant win for the Lions, the totals forty two.

725
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: They are getting eight points here in Denver from the Broncos.

726
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: You know, the Broncos are again. You know they look

727
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: pretty terrible against the Chiefs. They lost that game Handley.

728
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: They need to bounce back here. I mean letdown.

729
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: Spot for the Lions, Joe after the big win or what.

730
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: Well, the Lions have been competitive. It happens like they

731
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: play hard. The problem with the Lions is they don't

732
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: have talent, so they don't match up well and then

733
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: they always end up falling short and the quarterback play

734
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: doesn't help them if they don't have weapons. DeAndre Swift's

735
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: injury doesn't help, you know, if you're gonna laugh at this,

736
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 3: but if Melbourne Gordon's out for this game too, I

737
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 3: like the Denver side because I think Javonte Williams looks

738
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: that good in this backfield, and they have so much

739
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: trouble there with the run that I think Gavante's can

740
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: just run a muck on them. If Gordon's back in

741
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 3: this mix and you get more to that sixty to

742
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: forty fifty to fifty split, I actually like the Detroit side.

743
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: So this is a game that I think you wait

744
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 3: for a little bit more news until you have it.

745
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: But my initial instinct right now is to take the

746
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: eight points in Detroit because Denver is not exactly a

747
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: world beating offense no matter what, and it feels like

748
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: Detroit once again. You know, they just got rewarded for

749
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: their competitiveness. Yes, a very emotional game, but I think

750
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: that they are better than some of the two and

751
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: three win teams that are out there Detroit, at least

752
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: the way they've played this year in terms of effort level.

753
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: So I'll take the eight points with Detroit right now.

754
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: That's my instinct. Dan the forty two, I mean, my

755
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: instinct says over in this one too, because the Denver

756
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: defense can be very inconsistent at times. But what do

757
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 3: you think about this line so far?

758
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: I think I don't love it.

759
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: But if I had to go one way, it would

760
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: be the Lions, you know, because that just betting on

761
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: the Broncos to beat a team by more than a

762
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 2: touchdown right now just seems foolhardy, like just that. I mean,

763
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: they can, of course I have, but just to have

764
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: confidence in them being able to do that, I don't

765
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: have it. And the Lions, like, you're right, Joe. The

766
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: biggest thing with the Lions is they will play hard.

767
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: And we make fun of Dan Campbell, but that team

768
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: plays hard to the very quarters four quarters, baby, all

769
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: the time.

770
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: So the total I don't want to get near.

771
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: I assume the Broncos are going to win this game,

772
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: but I think the Lions are going to play and

773
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: you know, Teddy looks banged up, you know, you know,

774
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: just generally battling through. They haven't found a way to

775
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: utilize any of their wide receivers. Unfortunately, as good as

776
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: you know, all those guys are, so strikes me as

777
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: a game that the Broncos probably win. By like, you know,

778
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: somewhere between three and seven. So I'd probably take the Lions,

779
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: but not a game I'm running to take.

780
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: What about the charge.

781
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: Joe at home here against the Giants that can census

782
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: ten and a half? There's ten's out there, but there's

783
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: a lot of ten and a half. The total is

784
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: forty five and a half. I guess the thought is

785
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna get Jake from I guess because Daniel Jones

786
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: is all but ruled out right now. I've got Mike

787
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: Lennon with the concussion, but you have Keenan Allen out

788
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: most likely not he's on the COVID list. He did

789
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: test positive, so I don't know if he's vaccinate or

790
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: if we've heard anything on that, but I guess he's

791
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 2: not technically ruled out yet for this weekend, but I

792
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: assume that he's probably gonna be out.

793
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: It's ten and a half.

794
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you feel like they could maybe score no

795
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: points offensively Joe and still find a way to win

796
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: this game just based on their defense.

797
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: But what do you think You're a ten and a half?

798
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: You know, I don't usually like these huge numbers, typically speaking,

799
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: But whats going on with the Giants offense. And it's

800
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: not even just the court. I mean the quarterback play's

801
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: enough right now, right yeah, just downgrade potentially to Jake

802
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: from or Mike Lennon RNY of those goods. And then

803
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: you throw in that Shepherd's been hurt and Tony's been

804
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: her and nobody's practicing together, nobody's working together, and Dalladay

805
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: has been a complete bust and Sekwon Barkley is you know,

806
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: just uninspiring at this point in this offense. I think

807
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: the ten, and actually I love to lock in the

808
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: ten wherever I could before you get to the hook.

809
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: That's what I would like to say.

810
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: Spots out there are a couple of spots out there

811
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: where it's ten.

812
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, take the ten where you can get the ten,

813
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: and take the Chargers because, like I said, it's just

814
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: there's so many issues here, and when you don't have

815
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: your personnel working together on the field, and then you

816
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: have lesser personnel leading it at quarterback, that is a

817
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: really tough selle to go on the road across country

818
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: and play a team like the Chargers who has a

819
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: really good pass rush, right like Bosa is going to

820
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: be on top of whoever's playing quarterback most likely. And

821
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: then on top of which, they are very opportunistic secondary,

822
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: like they're they're hit and miss. Which is why the

823
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: Chargers are seven and five and don't have eight or

824
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: nine wins is because sometimes they play a little fast

825
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: and loose on the defensive side of the football. And

826
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: because of that, what I believe is that you're gonna

827
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: probably in this game where you don't have a great

828
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: offense and loose is gonna work because the Giants are

829
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: gonna make a mistake. So I think i'd lock in

830
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: the ten where I could get rid of the hook

831
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: and take the Chargers. Ignore the overunder because you have

832
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: no idea what you're gonna get out of. That's the thing.

833
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: People would be tempted this, like, oh, it's gonna be

834
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: a blowout, let's take the Chargers, right. But for this

835
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 3: to happen, you have to get the New York Giants

836
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: to do their part. I have concerns if the Giants

837
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: can do their part in this game depending on who's

838
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: playing quarterback. Therefore, go to the ten, stay away from

839
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: the over under.

840
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: I agree the ten right now is at BETMGM and

841
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: said Fox. Bet our books Joe are at ten and

842
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, I'd go with the Chargers, but it's,

843
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: you know, such a bizarre game here with everything that's

844
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: going on. People who listen to this podcasts regularly know

845
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: which way I'm going to go in this game, Joe.

846
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: This is the forty nine Ers visiting the Bengals. Both

847
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: teams off tough losses here. You know, the forty nine

848
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: Ers kept it close. Bengals just got you know, their

849
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: butts kicked in this game by the Chargers. Forty nine

850
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: Ers here are getting a point in Cincinnati, Joe, and

851
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: then totals forty seven and a half. What do you

852
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: think about this one?

853
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: This is the fascinating game of the week, right this

854
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: this screams run away. But if you want to take

855
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 3: a stand here, the only thing that even gives me

856
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: pausey at the Bengals is that pinky of Joe Burrow.

857
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: Because it sounds like, oh it's a pinky's it is

858
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: a big deal because you could see the pain that

859
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: he had on the sidelines trying to throw the football

860
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: and work through it. And that's that finger that when

861
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: you throw the football, it really gives you that that

862
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: control at the very end there that helps with that spiral,

863
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: So that is something that is concerning to me. Now,

864
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: is then concerning enough to go to the San Francisco

865
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: side for me? No, because I'm not a big fan

866
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: of the fot and hours this year. I think they've

867
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: fallen into everything breaking right. Deebo Samuel's health has a

868
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: lot to do with this game. If Deebo's back in

869
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: this game, that makes me stay away from it. But

870
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: if he's out of this game, I would, you know,

871
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 3: favor the Cincinnati side. It's very tricky. I think you're

872
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: looking at the lines too. You're getting the minus one

873
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: ten on the one, and you're getting minus fIF team

874
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: for the Bengals to win outright, So you might as

875
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: well just take the point if you think like there's

876
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: no reason, there's no incentive to just take the Bengals

877
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: to win on the money line just doesn't exist. So

878
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 3: you might as well just go ahead and take the one,

879
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: and go ahead and take Cincinnati at home and take

880
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: because they because they did show up eventually in that

881
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: game against the Chargers, and then there were a couple

882
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: of moments like Jamar Chase didn't come up with that ball.

883
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: If he does, maybe a very different game.

884
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: It's a very right. So there were moments there where

885
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: they did play catch up, but it just they fell short.

886
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: And this is what a young team has, where they

887
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: go through these growing pains where they're really you know,

888
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: they have really good talent. They you know, start beating

889
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers, right, but then they don't understand that

890
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: you have to prepare and let that go for the

891
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: next week and it doesn't matter that team is gonna

892
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: come in your building this competitive, they're gonna whoop your ass.

893
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: So I think that San Francisco is a perfect example

894
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: of Okay, now you gotta be ready. You're gonna let

895
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: two West Coast teams here back to back whoop you

896
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: at home. I don't think so. So I like the

897
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: Cincinnati side of this one too. How do you feel

898
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: about this one? Because this one's very close.

899
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: I basically have spent four weeks in a row fading

900
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals and it mostly has not worked out. It

901
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: did this bad, it did this past week. I think

902
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: the Bengals are a very very overrated team. I think

903
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: the four nine Ers are much better team. Just just

904
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: putting aside everything and again, you know, I look at DVA.

905
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: I think it's just like a very easy, sort of

906
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: just general way to look at the teams. The forty

907
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: nine ers total total DVA seventh, the Bengals are eighteenth.

908
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 2: Like I think that's just a very very simple way

909
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: to look at the fact that the forty nine ers

910
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: are a much better team.

911
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: Now.

912
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers, Joe, you noted, don't know if

913
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna get Debo back. When you get a one

914
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: to two week injury, Joe, I always take the over,

915
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: so I assume he's gonna be out this week. You

916
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: also have Elijah Mitchell. My guess is he's not gonna

917
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: play this week because he got the big hit, came

918
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: back in the game, and then subsequently the.

919
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: Next day has concussion symptoms.

920
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: That's bad. They also don't have Jeff Wilson. That's bad

921
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: because he had then flare up Trey Sermons on IR.

922
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: So you might have Jamichael Hasty and Kyle Uschek and

923
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: that's it in the run game. That really hurts. But

924
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: this is a better team. You got the Pinky Joe,

925
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: which you met. If word is bad, you know what

926
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: I heard about Burrow Joe with the pinky is he's optimistic.

927
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: He can play through it. That's not what you want

928
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: to hear. You want to hear this is nothing. I'm

929
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: totally fine, let's go. So the fact that he does

930
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: have that, I think of word leaks that it's bad.

931
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: That's bad.

932
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: So this is a West Coast team again, as you mentioned,

933
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: Joe coming east. But the Chargers didn't seem to have

934
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: any problem. And also this is a four to twenty

935
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: five game, which I think makes it a lot easier

936
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: for their internal.

937
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: Collaps right to sort of do that. So I'm on

938
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers here.

939
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: My guess is I will be taking them on Wednesday

940
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: on Thursday on our Best Bets Show, because I am

941
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: I am at this point fading the Bengals pretty hard.

942
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: But that is just how Dan Harris does it this year,

943
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: and it has not always worked out.

944
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 3: You and I would have agreed last week on fading

945
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: the Bank.

946
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: You were on the Chargers as well.

947
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: I was very much on the Childcat because whenever you

948
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 3: have that big emotional victory for an individual apponent, especially

949
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: the Steelers that have the team that's been whooping on you,

950
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: and that was the third time in a row that

951
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: they beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they beat them at

952
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: halftime that game was over thirty.

953
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: I was on the Steelers by the way on that

954
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: game too because I I fade the Bengals.

955
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, they that's what after that soundspot right?

956
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: You have to know that there's going to be that

957
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: we're going to come out flat at least. Yeah, and

958
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: the Chargers, you know we're not going to come out flat.

959
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: The Chargers are going to are a very well coached team,

960
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: and Staley's inn a really good job there. I really

961
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: like him as a coach. I think that's a team that,

962
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 3: you know, everyone who makes one of the Chargers are

963
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: going to charge and all that stuff. I think you

964
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: could throw that away. I don't think that's what Brandon

965
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: Stale is about. And the preparation there I think is

966
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: very good. And there's still, in a lot of ways

967
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: a young team that's got to learn how to win.

968
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: And last week I think was a really good, you know,

969
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: fork in the road for them in the right direction.

970
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, it's a good one coming up, Joe.

971
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: The Bills are visiting the box.

972
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: The Bucks are Atlanta field goal fifty two and a

973
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: half with the total here, Joe, you know, look the Bills,

974
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: right now are a little bit of crossroads here, Joe.

975
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: They're seven and five, Like they are seven and five

976
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: at this point that that's miraculous to think about. Their

977
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: offense has really not been able to get go side

978
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: but the wind game, and they're gonna be stinging after

979
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: that one. Like their offense has not been able to

980
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: get it done. They obviously lost for Davius White for

981
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: the season. That's a huge loss to their defense. The

982
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: Bucks nine to three continue to roll no Antonio Brown,

983
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 2: but it doesn't really matter.

984
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: They can get it done any which way. How do

985
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: you feel about this one?

986
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't matter because Chris Godwin had fifteen catches.

987
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 3: Rob Gronkowski had a dozen catches, So what does it matter.

988
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: Hopefully there won't be hurricane wins in Tampa, like hopefully

989
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: they can get rid of any kind of wind yer

990
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: back to back weeks here or then. But the White

991
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: injury is huge because that secondary was really the strength

992
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: of the defense. And we take away your number one corner,

993
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: everybody moves up a slot and number one corners are

994
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: number one corners and the reason and not every team

995
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: has a number one corner. And again, we talk so

996
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: much on the fantasy side of things about offense, and

997
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 3: I think that filters into so much of our wagering.

998
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 3: We don't talk enough about defense on both sides, whether

999
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: it be betting, whether it be fansy. We don't talk

1000
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: about what that impact is. And right now that injury

1001
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: is going to absolutely show up in this game against

1002
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, because when you have an injury to the

1003
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: secondary like that, when you have a situation where you

1004
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: have a quarterback that's that good in terms of finding

1005
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 3: the open guy. This could be a really long day here.

1006
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: And Mike Hyde and Jordan Poyer are great players and

1007
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: all of them and I'm not taking anything away from

1008
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 3: those dudes. I love them. But this is tough here

1009
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: because Buffalo kind of suffers from the same problem that

1010
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are suffering from, which is when you become

1011
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: one dimensional, you become predictable, and would become predictable, you

1012
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 3: become beatable in the NFL. And that's what's happened to

1013
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: both of these teams offensively, they become predictable. Now the

1014
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 3: Chiefs starting to work in cly Wortz a layer more,

1015
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: I think is a good thing, but there is no

1016
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 3: cech here for the Buffalo Bills. It ain't Matt Brida, okay,

1017
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 3: And it's not Devin Singletary or Zach Moss. So it's

1018
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: really Josh Allen kind of feeling the load here, and

1019
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 3: I worry that that's a lot to put on. And

1020
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: because when Josh Allen takes on too much, Josh Allen

1021
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: overplays and tries to get out of three tackles and

1022
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 3: then chuck the ball, and that's all bad Josh Allen.

1023
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: Those are the old bad habits. And if those habits

1024
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: come out against Tampa, you're gonna see issues here, and

1025
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: you're going to see you know, Tampa can also get

1026
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: to the quarterback a little bit to you. I don't know,

1027
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: man for this one. I feel pretty confident in Tampa

1028
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: at this three and and it's it's sad because I

1029
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: love Josh Allen. I love this Bills team. I was

1030
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: picking them to win the East this year, but this

1031
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: just feels like a seven and six situation when they

1032
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: are on that plane Sunday.

1033
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, Joe.

1034
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: I think you have to go with the Bucks right

1035
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: now at the field goal. And again, it has nothing

1036
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: to do with last night, like they could have very

1037
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: easily won that game obviously, and it was a crazy game.

1038
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: Dawson knock dropped a bunch of passes and stuff like that,

1039
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: but it was just I throw it at it's.

1040
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: The mental state of last night's game. Yeah, that you

1041
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: lost at home to the Patriots, and that was the

1042
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 3: one you didn't want to lose because it was your

1043
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: home game. If you split, it's fine, but you want

1044
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: to win the one at home because that's the one.

1045
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: It's a lock, and then you feel better going into

1046
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: Tampa because what happens is these losses start to mount

1047
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: and you start you start winning, losing, winning losing, and

1048
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: you start to have there's no confidence built. Yeah, that's

1049
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: the problem. If you go look in this game log

1050
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: for the Buffalo Bills, it's up and down, and that's

1051
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 3: not a good situation for them from a confidence standpoint.

1052
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1053
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 2: To me, they're just playing poorly routinely, right, Like, that's

1054
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: the bottom line. They just they haven't played well in

1055
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: a while offensively as well, and you mentioned it. They

1056
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: have a little bit of the Chiefs syndrome, where you know,

1057
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: opposing defense has started taking away the explosive plays.

1058
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: They can't run it.

1059
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: They don't like to go short, you know that much,

1060
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: and Alan holds the ball a little too long. So yeah,

1061
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: they are struggling right now, and it's just really difficult

1062
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: to see them on a short week going into Tampa

1063
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: and beating that team. So if you're getting three, like,

1064
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: if you're just laying three, I agree with you, Joe.

1065
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: I think you got to go with the Bucks here.

1066
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: I think the Bills are still overrated in the market

1067
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: right now. Bears are visiting the Packers on Sunday Night

1068
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: football twelve and a half right now at eleven and

1069
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: a half. For me at draftings, it's rare, Joe, I

1070
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: joke about this where you see a giant spread and

1071
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 2: a total of forty four, Like, it's just it's not often.

1072
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: Don't know who's going to be quarterback now, it's pain

1073
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: tolerance issue for dustin fields at this point. Don't know

1074
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,479
Speaker 2: if Alan Robinson is going to be back. I don't

1075
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: know if it matters. And you've got again the Packers

1076
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: coming off the buy here, Aaron Jones is back, Tota

1077
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: Adams is there, Aaron Rodgers is there and hopefully his

1078
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: foot toe feels a little better here. Twelve and a

1079
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: halfs a very big number.

1080
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Joe, especially with the total that low, But what do

1081
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: you think about it?

1082
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: Every fiber of my being after Aaron Rodgers keeps talking

1083
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: about how I own you, I own the Bears. I

1084
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: want to take the Bear so bad this in the

1085
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: twelve and a half, but I can't do it. I

1086
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: just can't do it. Like the fact is he does

1087
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: owe them, he owns them until further notice. And this

1088
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: is not the game because of the health as you

1089
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: just point out, the situation a quarterback. Oh, everything going

1090
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: on there, and the defense for the Bears is respectable,

1091
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: but the problem is that the offense just continues to

1092
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: put them on the field too much and in that situation.

1093
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: So it's a bad combination of things. And you can't

1094
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: do that with Aaron Rodgers, and you certainly can't do

1095
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: that on the road, you know, if you're the Bear.

1096
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 3: So I hate saying twelve and a half is safe,

1097
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: but I feel like twelve and a half is actually

1098
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: pretty safe. You're in this one, so I would go

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00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 3: to twelve and a half. I would stay away from

1100
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: the forty four though. If anything, if anything, the over

1101
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: for the garbage time stuff like forty four is too

1102
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: low in this game, too because I think Green Bay

1103
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: could put up thirty by themselves, and then we're asking

1104
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: a lot of the Bears at all. So that's something

1105
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: to keep in mind. So forty four over twelve and

1106
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: a half, you can get it at twelve somewhere to

1107
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 3: take it without the hook.

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Speaker 2: It's eleven and a half for me at DraftKings, But

1109
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: I probably it's weird sort of the outlier in the market,

1110
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: which is good, by the way. I like it when

1111
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: books are and just always in Unison here. But yeah,

1112
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Speaker 2: I mean I think there's no way I could take

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00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 2: the Bears. I'm not touching the total. There's no way

1114
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: you could take the Bears. Right now, I'm with the

1115
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: Packers at home at Lambeau on Sunday night football, you know,

1116
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: and I naturally televised game like you can just see

1117
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 2: them sort of, you know, crushing them.

1118
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: So if I go one way or the.

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00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: Other, I probably will go with the Packers. It's not

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00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: a game I really I hate the big like spreads

1121
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: like that. I just automatically sort of have an aversion too.

1122
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 2: But whatever, last game Monday night football, good one Rams

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00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: visiting the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Spread is three totals fifty one and a half.

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Speaker 3: This is a big here, this same playoff game. This

1126
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: is huge because Arizona having Kyler Murray back healthy last week,

1127
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: or healthy enough to play at least last week. We

1128
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: don't know how healthy he really is, but he was

1129
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: on the field and he had four touchdowns. So that's

1130
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: good enough for me, it's good enough for you. So

1131
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Arizona side of this game because

1132
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: what I keep seeing from the Rams is they continue

1133
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: to be their own worst enemy, and it's kind of frustrating.

1134
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 3: I watched that game against the Packers a few weeks

1135
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: ago where Sean McVay is calling a fourth down, going

1136
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: for it in their own thirty on the road in

1137
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: the first quarter, and I'm thinking to myself, who do

1138
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 3: you think you are? And this is why really good

1139
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: teams of the NFL sometimes lose because their head coach

1140
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: is too smart for their own goods. Sometimes it makes

1141
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 3: stupid decisions and puts them behind. Sean McVay can have

1142
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 3: all the confidence in the world he wants against you know,

1143
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: in his offense, against whoever opponent, all that nonsense, but

1144
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: there's just things you do and things you don't do.

1145
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: And my concern is in this game on the road,

1146
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Sean McVay is going to make a stupid decision at

1147
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: some point in time, and it's gonna put them in

1148
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: a bad position and the Cardinals are gonna take advantage

1149
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: of it. And I think it's time we start to

1150
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: put some respect on the Cardinals defense too. This team

1151
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: has played very well defensively all year. Despite every week

1152
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: everybody waiting for the other shoot to drop, it just hasn't.

1153
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: And they've lost personnel year over year. I mean, Simmons

1154
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: has played terrific, They've They've had a really good year

1155
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: out of their linebacker corps. The Rams I think are

1156
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: a better team on paper, but it just feels like,

1157
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, them putting it together. And I don't

1158
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: care what happened this week against Jacksonville. I don't care.

1159
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: You should stomp a mud hole in Jacksonville. You're a

1160
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: significantly better roster than them. That means absolutely nothing to

1161
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: me coming into this game. And I actually like Arizona

1162
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: here to win this game, so I'll take the I

1163
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: will still take the three with Arizona because I think

1164
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: they can win by that much. But Dan, I'm curious,

1165
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: would you take the Rams side and the points in

1166
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: this game.

1167
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think you're right. I think

1168
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm on the same size. This is one where you know,

1169
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: sometimes Joe, I don't know about you, but sometimes I

1170
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: have a reaction to games early when I look at

1171
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: them right here, as we do on Monday, and then

1172
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: as I dig into it as the week goes on,

1173
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: sometimes I changed sides.

1174
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: I did that with Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

1175
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Speaker 2: When I first looked at the line it was four

1176
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: four and a half, I said, I just feels like

1177
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: the Ravens are gonna be able to win this game

1178
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: pretty handily. But as I dug into it, by the

1179
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: end of the game, by the end of the week,

1180
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: I was I was on the Steelers, and I had

1181
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: them in our app by the way, our betting pros.

1182
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: App where we can lock our picks.

1183
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: This one, though, it does feel like the Cardinals, and

1184
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: it just feels like with a healthy Kyler Murray, with

1185
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins getting healthier, James Connor is playing great.

1186
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: The Rams look a little.

1187
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: Lost right now, and I think like they'll probably try

1188
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 2: to run the ball sort of. You know, you heard

1189
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: McVay talking about the fact that they liked the running

1190
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: style more.

1191
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: You know what they did with Michelle, which was just

1192
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: sort of a.

1193
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: Downhill, you know runner, And maybe Henderson gets back, so

1194
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: maybe they try to do that more. But obviously the

1195
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: loss of Robert Woods, I think is you know, bigger

1196
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham junior is he's banged up, like he caught

1197
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: the touchdown pass obviously, but he's banged up. Van Jefferson

1198
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: is fine, Cooper Cup's amazing, but I just don't know

1199
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: if they have the firepower right now to stay with

1200
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: the Cardinals offensively, which with Murray fully healthy, and I

1201
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: think they played this correctly, thankfully in giving him so

1202
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 2: much time off after that ankle spring right because you know,

1203
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: you heard him a game day decision two weeks in

1204
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: a row before the bye, and I was like, please

1205
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: don't play him, Please just.

1206
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: Let him rest.

1207
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: Rely on Colt McCoy to win most of the games

1208
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: would be fun. And then get him to buy and

1209
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: then get him healthy. And man, you saw what he

1210
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: looked like. He just when he gets out of the pocket,

1211
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: he's just impossible to bring down. Right now, this is

1212
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: also it for the division. I mean, if they win

1213
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: this game, the division's over. Like I mean, they'll still

1214
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: have to play because again, the one thing I liked

1215
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: too about these schedule changes, like you got the one

1216
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: team getting the buy Like that's going to mean the

1217
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: Packers and the Cardinals got to go full out right

1218
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: for the rest of the year. But this is it

1219
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: for the division. The Cardinals will lock up the division

1220
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: with a win. I think they do right now. So

1221
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Joe. I think if it's field

1222
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: goal and again it's underfield goal at a couple of

1223
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: places Fox bet points bet like it's two and a

1224
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: half that I really like, but at three I think

1225
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 2: I like it as well. I think I'm with you, Joe.

1226
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: Well done, all right, Joe, what's the uh? That was

1227
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: our last game? What's the schedule here? For the college

1228
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: Football podcast?

1229
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing.

1230
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Speaker 3: Well. First of all, it's been a glorious college football

1231
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: year for the first Scott Bok and let's just put

1232
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: that out there. But then some really fun games last week.

1233
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: Alabama beating Georgia was a fun game, and beating them

1234
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: handily too. My goodness. That Georgia defense certainly ran up

1235
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: against an offensive line wall who heard all week about

1236
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 3: how they were going to be overmatched. Well they weren't,

1237
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: and Bryce Young had more time in the pocket and

1238
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: played the game of his career so far, so it

1239
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 3: was a great game for him. A couple of weeks ago,

1240
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: we had that Michigan game. You know, some great stuff's

1241
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: been going on college football. So this week we're going

1242
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 3: to take a week off, take a deep breath, and

1243
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: then we're every week here to close the year. We're

1244
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 3: going to have a bowl preview, so we had think

1245
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: fifteen games the first week or thirteen games and then

1246
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: fifteen I forget which numbers which. So the next couple

1247
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 3: of weeks we're going to be going week in at

1248
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 3: time with the bowl games, and then we get to

1249
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: the college football playoffs. We'll do a special to close

1250
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: everything out on the national championship game, so we'll do

1251
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: not only picking the game, we'll probably talk a lit

1252
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: litle bit about all the props inside the game and

1253
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: just have some fun and kind of close out the

1254
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: ear maybe look a little ahead too, because there's already

1255
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: some massive coaching changes that have gone on in the

1256
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: college football world. But it's been a fun season. If

1257
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 3: you missed it, I don't know. I'm questioning your choices

1258
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: in life. Go check it out, man, get into college football.

1259
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: It's fun.

1260
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: There's a saying when you have kids, Joe, which is

1261
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: the days are long, but the years are short, right,

1262
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: meaning that like when you're going through it, every day

1263
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: like feels forever, but then you wake up and like

1264
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: the kids are like five years older.

1265
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: Right.

1266
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: I feel that way a little bit with this football season,

1267
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 2: with this college football season, where I felt like every

1268
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: week it was sort of like, you know, all the

1269
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: work that we put in and everything on the betting side,

1270
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 2: especially just sort of you know, grinding it out each week,

1271
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 2: going through the shows, blah blah, and then I'm like,

1272
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: oh my god, the season is over, and it just

1273
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: it feels like it went like that.

1274
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: You guys did a great job.

1275
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 2: I certainly enjoyed Bogwin way more than you, but so

1276
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: Bogwin was fantastic. Obviously in the college football side. We're

1277
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: going to keep going here with the NFL Show of

1278
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: course until the end of the season. So for everybody listening,

1279
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: thank you so much for tuning in, Thank you for

1280
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: t ning into the to the College.

1281
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: Football Podcast as well.

1282
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: Stick with us here. It's gonna be good. We'll be

1283
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: back on Thursday with our best bets. I will talk

1284
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Speaker 2: to