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Alongside the Great heck Ma Harrison, 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:14.120 Isaiah Standback are residence super Bowl Champion, Rob Phillips, Cowboys 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.839 Insider and myself. Kyle Yeoman's how's going, guys, I'm swell. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.080 How are you? I'm fantastic. So this guy's had to reset. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.040 This guy's got the invisible line going right, and last 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.840 night's hard at the game. He could not even say 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.440 his own name. Dude, I messed up my name twice. Yeah, 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.000 I couldn't say Kyle Yeoman's twice, like flips the way 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.959 that the teen when you have visilized and you like 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.360 you like old school Shannon Sharp, Yeah, a little bit. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.840 And I'm having to get used to it too, but 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.720 I can't. I can't get to it. I didn't notice 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:49.880 it until you flubbed the opening, Lion, I tell no lies. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.840 Heckma looks so offended. Shannon Sharp us to have a 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:58.120 heavy tongue. Back in the day, he worked, He worked 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.960 really hard. He's really good now, but back in the day, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:09.040 we're talt on this speech playing days. Yeah, hard knocks. Yeah, 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:13.840 when he did that restitution, Yeah remember that. No, I 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.920 mean he's he's a Georgia boy from the South, so 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.240 those some of those things don't go in his favor. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.200 So yeah, it's fair. It's a good point. But yes, 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.920 I am struggling with the in visiligne from time to time. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.400 I'm trying to get through it. Do you have to 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.040 wear them on the show? And you can you I'm 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.840 supposed to wear them. Hurts when you take when you 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.680 don't wear them. Yeah, I'm supposed to wear them, like 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.240 without stopping except for eating. Yeah, like that's it, Like 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:43.280 that's the only thing I can sponsored you because they aren't. Yeah, sponsors, Okay, yeah, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.040 so we are good. We're going in. Yeah, we can 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.160 go in on it. But yeah, so great people over there, 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.720 and I'm getting it all fixed up. So We've had 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.200 multiple coworkers that have used yeah and says it's magic. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.920 Lindsay Draper is the one that I know of. Taylor 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:00.520 Sern also did. Both loved it. So I'm just underway. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.119 So I'm getting used to it at the home. It'll 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:03.880 get better and I won't have to worry about get 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.960 that grill together. Yeah, get it all figured out. All right, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.240 We've got some news and notes to hit. The Cowboys 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.480 were on the practice field again yesterday, and of course 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.160 week five is here. The New York Giants are on 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:19.360 the docket. Anything come out of yesterday, Rob just good 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.040 news in terms of Zeke and Amari practicing, getting some 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.480 limited work in and they're trending towards Sunday. Just trying 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:30.360 to get them some rest Wednesday and kind of manage stuff. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.440 And you know, Zeke said his knees a little tight 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.280 from the game, and it's just something I think for 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.880 maybe both guys. Just get to the bye week and 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.880 you get that week off after the Patriots game, and 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.480 they should feel much better. That's such good news to 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.720 have both Digs and Cooper who were limited, and we 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.320 talked about it yesterday on the show, but having both 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.920 of those guys limited is not an ideal thing moving forward. 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.200 But you still expected them to play. But the fact 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:57.440 that they're feeling better and that they're not being bothered 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.400 by it is certainly great news for sure, for sure. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:04.560 And you know, so we'll see with guys that are 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.120 on I R if they're getting any closer again. You know, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.400 with guys that are getting close like that, you got 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.040 one game to go before the buye. You know, Michael 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.440 Gallops an example. You get him through the buy maybe, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.560 and then he's got that extra week. So we'll see 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.240 if anybody could get back after this game, but that 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.440 buy is always right out there for an extra week 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.359 arrest there. Speaking of guys getting back, I know, since 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.719 we last recorded, the news came out that Lyle Collins 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.400 was filing a lawsuit against the NFL for his five 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.280 game suspension to be lifted. I don't know if that's 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.080 do you have any extra explanation or news on that 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.480 specifically of what that could mean for him and if 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.080 he comes back early. Well, it's it was a reminder 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:50.760 of twenty seventeen when Zeke went through this process for 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.560 weeks on weeks on weeks. Yeah, like he would get 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.760 an injunction and then it would go to a different 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.719 court and it would get removed, and then he would 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.920 go to a different appeal and it would get back 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:06.240 in play. So we'll see what happens. You know, the 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.240 timing is is tough because there's only two games left 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.320 and at this point you're thinking, an, there's just one 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.599 game where maybe he could try to get one game 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.600 off the suspension, but if nothing else, maybe he's trying 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.720 to get his game checks back. That's the thing that's 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:21.560 probably at this point, that's all he can be really 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.480 fighting for. Right, Yeah, I can't get the games back, 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:24.960 but you can get your money back. So last we 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:26.840 saw the reports, it's got to you know, it was 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.960 supposed to go to a certain court in Texas. It's 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.600 got to get to assign to a judge, and then 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.800 it's going to get hurt. So he's trying to get 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.400 a temporary or straining order. Tro is what I learned 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.279 in twenty so I learned all this court room jargon 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.039 with Zeke back in twenty seventeen. Then now I'm you know, 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.080 it's like going back to law school or something. But 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.919 we'll see what happens there. But obviously they're preparing for 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.000 Terence Steel to be the right tackle for now. Gotch. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.760 I just I saw that news yesterday and it kind of, 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.039 like you said, goes back to that conversation that we 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:56.640 had in twenty seventeen surrounding Zeke and whether or not 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.479 it was possible for him to come back. I thought 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.440 kind of the same thing that I say, it did 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.719 though it wasn't really possible. And let's go get those 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.480 game checks back if you're Lyle Collins, because I mean, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.839 those are some big old paychecks that you're leaving on 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.599 the table with a suspension like that, for sure. So 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.400 the Cowboys offense versus the Giants defense, we flipped the 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.800 script from yesterday in terms of our preview, and I 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.880 ask you, heck ma Harrison, what is the identity of 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.000 this Cowboys offense right now? If you had to pick 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:30.920 a strength, if you had to pick one aspect of 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:35.600 this offense that is the go to cornerstone, what is 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.640 that identity? Then? I do not have one for you, 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.760 and I'm not gonna even lie to you. I feel 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.800 like Jesse Holly tweeted it the other day, one of 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.000 two POC songs, how do you want It? And that's 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.760 what we show up to the stadium with, how do 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.280 you want it? How do you what you're gonna get? 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.640 You know, head a gut. We're gonna approach this that way. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.760 And if Kellen Moore continues this trend with each and 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.600 every week, with whatever you try and take away from us, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.120 that's we can go into something else and those things 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.200 like right now, the way that the running game is going, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.839 I think people will start to venture back to, oh 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.960 it's a running game. It's you know, get the running 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.440 game going. But that's really not it. And you can 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.400 tell you'll see in those games where teams take away 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.160 the running game, load the box what Dak can do 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.640 on the outside. So look, it's just hard to say 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.200 what the identity is. I just think, you know, whatever 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.480 you try and take away, we have so much talent 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.800 on our offense, we can exploit you on any end 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.600 of the field. Yeah. I don't disagree with heck him 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.920 on that. It is difficult because this team is so 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.040 well versed. If I had to select the identity for us, 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.000 I believe that we've turned into a pass first, but 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.480 try it if you want to. We'll run on you 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.440 second type of offense, especially whether it's you know, Dak 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.640 what has ten touchdowns and I think rushing around five 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.720 right around there, all right, So I think we are 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:54.960 throw it first, just because that's what Kelly Moore likes 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.240 to do. But try us if you want to go 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.200 too high, and we'll run this bar down your throat 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:03.040 as well. So yeah, that it kind of reminds me 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.160 of Seattle who played last night, and those early years 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:12.080 with Russ. Sorry about that, Sorry about the dub, but 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.200 but they early on it was Marshawn Lynch first, yeah, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.800 and then Russ continued to develop as a as a quarterback, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.000 and then it flipped and it turned into you know, 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:22.680 he's the best player on the team. And I think 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.720 that's where they are with Dak right now. But they 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.960 can still beat you any way they want. If I 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.280 had to describe it, I'd say what Dak said about Kellen. 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:35.200 You know, he's in his bag right now. Heck, and 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.480 Dak said I kind of am too, and like you know, 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.760 and It's not just like fancy stuff, creative stuff. It's 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.000 Kellen Moore just being patient and saying I don't have 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.040 to force anything just to show how smart I am 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.679 as a play caller. It's like, if we just need 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.000 to hand it off and run you over, fine, we'll 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.280 just do it that way. So is the identity just 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.240 Kellen Moore? Is that? Is it your your coordinator is 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.079 doing a top notch job or is it think that's 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.880 always the case for any successful offense. I mean, regardless 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.480 of how great your players are. And again I've been 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.240 saying this all week, this always comes down to the 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:10.199 offensive coordinator. It's just playing as simple. I mean, Jason Garrett, no, 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:11.520 I mean, no shit, we'll find out this way. I 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.880 think he's gonna bring his all his bag this week 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.400 because I think he's hearing those murmurs of how good 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.000 Kelly Moore is. And as a he's a competitor, right, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.800 And it's whether you're competing on the fielder, whether you're 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.240 competing in the in the in the booth, right, either way, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.720 you're gonna try to show your tale. Just here, I 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:29.960 heard something says Jay Gez in the background. Jay Z, So, 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:31.959 I mean, uh, you know, he had all the talent 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.040 in the world over here on the side of the 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:37.200 ball as well, and for whatever reason, right, it just 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:39.640 didn't work out. So, I mean both guys had the 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.040 same opportunity with almost the same amount of talent. One 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.440 person seemingly is doing better. Yeah, and I know you're 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:47.960 looking for a just just an answer on what it is. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.199 And I just think that we're so multifaceting on the 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.280 offense is really hard to do that. And I see 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.040 the game plan clearly in this game because if they're 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.520 trying to bring Russias off the edge, this could be 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.600 a big game for our tight ends. Again, I mean, 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.600 Dalt Schultz j when these guys are doing a superb 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.600 job in the middle of the field. So and you 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.800 even outline to play last week of you know, some 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.280 of the tight end screens that you see being ran 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.160 across the league. Schultz took that. I mean, it's just 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.640 it's textbook in this league about the way the teams 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.160 are using their tight ends. And I love the way 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.280 Kelly Moore is incorporated. What do you think it is. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.319 You think it's one specific thing or you think it's 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.240 just the versatility. I think it's the ground game that 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.000 sets up the past still at this moment. Maybe not 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.199 last year, maybe not when you were throwing at fifty 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.280 eight times in week one, but yeah, right now, I 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.360 think it's the running game. If your running game is 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.320 able to salt away games, is able to punch some 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.600 defenses in the mouth and wear them down step by 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.640 step to where you can hit a Cedric Wilson over 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.960 the top, or you can find adult and Schultz that's 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.360 open underneath the defense and he's able to weave his 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.280 way home for a touchdown. I mean, there are multiple 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.160 ways you can win. And I wasn't even in the question. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.360 No identity is still an identity. I mean, even if 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.880 the answer is we don't really have one, then that 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:03.600 answers the questions specifically because they are so multifaceted. And 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.800 just because I think the run game sets up the 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.920 pass well and that's probably the cornerstone of your offense 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.200 right this second. Doesn't mean that next week Deck Prescott 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.079 can't throw for four hundred and fifty yards and win 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.600 you a game, because you ultimately can do that. Hit 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.280 the nail on the head with that, and p I'm glad, 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.400 I don't know you haven't mentioned it. But right now, 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.199 this is the first time that the Cowboys have had 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.720 two two hundred and fifty yard rushes in that franchise, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.679 So I guess we could we that's the identity because 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.840 if you've never had that in this story franchise that 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.160 we've had, then obviously the running game is a big 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.480 catalyst for the success we're having. I mean, anytime you 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.560 run for five point three yards to pop as a team. 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.960 As a team, Tony Pollin's running for six point eight 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.800 yards on average per carry, that's really impressive. And then 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.760 of course Zeke is at five point three as well, 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.400 right at that team average across the board, So you're 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.520 running the football exceptionally well and with chunk yardage down 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.439 the field. I don't see how that's not your identity 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.000 or at least strength at this moment. Like I said, 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.200 that can change because you have so many weapons scattered 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.320 throughout that offense. But now I flip it to the defense. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.840 What is the identity for the Giants defense? Because do 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.839 they have an identity right now? No? No? Why is 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:18.000 that they haven't been effective in anything? They haven't They 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.040 haven't been dominant in any pace, And I feel like 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:21.800 in order to have an identity. There has to be 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.760 something that you're known for, right, it has to be 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.320 something that you're consistently good at. And I don't think 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.600 that the Giants right now have represented anything in terms 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.520 of whether they're not necessarily the biggest. They're not the 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.040 most physical, they're not the fastest. They don't force a 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.880 ton of turnovers, right, they don't threaten you in terms 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.480 of upfield rush. So, like, what is their identity when 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.319 you're breaking down the film and you're looking at them 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.160 in their safeties? How deep they play their safeties? I mean, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:45.800 and this is the first time that and I even 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.360 went back to last year they were not playing the 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.400 safeties as deep as they were before. And even the 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.320 door Jackson the way that they play him. They've had 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.680 their they've had their share of injuries. I mean, they're 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:59.440 missing their linebacker. He's a tackling machine, so he's gone. Yeah, Martinez, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.920 And I think in the NFL right now, everybody's playing 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.679 this Ben, but don't break style, you know, because of 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.800 what the offense is taking from them. So Ben, don't 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.480 break wait till we get down in the red zone 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.240 and try and play ball from there to force a 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.880 field goal. Or keep our fingers crossed for a turnover. 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.200 And that's where the New York Giants are right now. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.440 And I know every time someone plays the Cowboys, they 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.719 build them up each and every week and say, oh man, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.280 these guys are coming. No, they have some problems over 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.520 their own defense. Yeah, they have problems. And obviously, as 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.679 a defensive coordinator, you know your job is to put 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.640 your defense in the best situation possible. So if you 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.360 know that you don't have the personnel to go up 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:35.959 there and press these guys man and man or to 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.640 play single high coverage and you're exposed with that, then 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.760 what would you do. Well, I'm gonna play ben, but 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.600 don't break because I don't have the personnel to go 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.520 out there and be dominant till you know to my point, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.840 So you do. You play with the cards that you dealt, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:50.800 and those are the cards that they have right now 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.640 with the Giants. And unfortunately, you know they're they're playing 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.600 the Cowboys this week and they just don't match up. Well. Yeah, 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.720 I feel like last year they were you know, they 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.640 weren't like spectacular defensively, but they were solid. They didn't 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.640 give up a lot of big plays. They were able 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.599 to scheme some things, and they did pretty well in 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.720 the pass rush department last year. They've only got six 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.000 sacks so far, so that has not been their strength 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.160 up front. I'd say their strength is on the back 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.600 end in terms of their personnel. I mean, Brad Berry, Logan, 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.560 Ryan Peppers, those guys were good, but they haven't been 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.000 able to manufacture a lot of pressure. And if there's 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:23.880 one thing the Cowboys, you look back to last week 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.120 where they struggled with at least in the first half, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.000 Carolina got to them. So you know, if Dak's got 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.560 all day, that's gonna be a problem. And I agree 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.720 with you on the you know, if the teams are 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.480 I feel like more teams are going to try to 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.600 play that way with their safeties back and just you know, 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.200 death by a thousand cuts instead of Dak just just 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.960 chewing us up with single coverage. It's it's I mean, 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.360 we just talked about this offensive versatility and it really 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.240 is a picture poison type of thing right there. Is 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.120 It's interesting to think because last year I remember talking 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.680 about the Giants front and Leonard Willias and you were 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.320 talking about how they were starting to get pressure and 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.960 it looked like an ascending defense. It's the front. Well 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.760 where did that go? What happened there? Because I'm seeing 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.280 the same thing you guys are When I went back 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.640 and watched the New Orleans game, I mean, they didn't 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.840 really get pressure on Jamis Winston. They didn't force Jamis 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.160 Winston to make mistakes. Now, everybody collectively kind of got 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.280 after it in the fourth quarter because then they started 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.640 getting a little momentum and had some fire underneath them 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.960 to get pressure on Jamis Winston. But even at that point, 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.520 it still wasn't anything that jumped off the screen like 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.760 we've seen with Tampa Bay and with the Los Angeles 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.920 Chargers and what we saw last week against Carolina. It 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.840 just isn't that threat on that side of the football 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.040 this week. Well, defensively, I think you know what a 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.640 difference of year makes. It takes a lot to continuously 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.240 be it dominant year in and year out. I think 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.360 we're seeing that with the Washington football team, the way 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.640 that they're getting gashed. You think about the way that 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.400 the Cardinal shocking it really is, but then go back 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.840 to the way that the Cardinals they put it on 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:57.720 the Rams last week. So you know, it takes a 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.520 lot to be as dominant as we've seen some these fronts. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.680 But when you go back to Leonard Williams, and I 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.680 just think that the guys hurt. He's been playing injury 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.680 for these last couple of games. He's questionable even for 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.840 this game. So again, it's a long season, and I 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.000 feel like as teams are starting to get guys back, 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.360 guys are starting to get healthy, maybe we start to 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.920 see the better version of the Giants later on, because 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.400 right now they're banged up. You look at all the 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:21.840 guys that they have on ir and man, that's almost 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.720 half of their defense and banged up for this week too, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.040 right is it? I think Peppers Peppers is on there, 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.920 Dexter Lawrence on there too, not this week? Okay, Now 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.080 there's only three defensive players on the injury or port 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.440 Jabrill Peppers who did not play in the back half 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.160 of the fourth quarter and then into overtime against New Orleans. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.600 And then you've got, of course, Leonard Williams, like hackm 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.680 I just mentioned, he did not practice yesterday. Leonard Williams. 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.840 Very excuse me, Leonard Williams. Yeah. And then there was 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.720 one more, oh Nate Ebner was limited with a quad, 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.480 so they do have. I mean, their key pieces are 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:59.040 banged up. Those are three guys that are legitimate playtime 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:03.280 contenders and they're not. And that's why I expect for 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.840 Dak to attack them and on every level this week, 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.560 because he realizes that he's fighting the team that is wounded. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.840 And if we get on them right away, they're gonna 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.400 have a hard time getting back in this game. All right, 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.679 you go for it. No, No, I agree, And we 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.240 talked about it on one of the other shows. Is 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.479 just you know, I think one of the keys is 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.120 getting up on these boys and then and then staying up, 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.639 like not just getting up and allowing them to come 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.840 back like Carolina was allowed to get get up on 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.119 these boys. Yeah, be relentless, put your put the pedal 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.040 to the metal and drag these boys. Drag them to 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.959 the point where you almost feel best sorry for him, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.080 and then you remember they get paid. Drag him some more, right, Like, 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.640 that's what needs to happen in this game. We need 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:50.959 to get to that level of aggressiveness of punishment because 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.879 teams need to feel that it doesn't matter, right, it 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.680 doesn't matter if we're down by twenty one. These boys 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.400 are still gonna go up there and do their job 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.320 when they come on the field offensively, we need to 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.400 drag these boys unto the ground. And doesn't that show 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.920 up on film? And when they when other teams are 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.639 evaluating too, you see see that there's like the Cowboys 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.600 are going to be physical and if you don't match 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.679 their kansa game, they're they're gonna drag us for the 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.760 whole game. We don't want that, so don't get yourself embarrassed. 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:19.240 So that's something that we've been taking on now. We 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.159 are the giver to the point I brought up a 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.440 conversation yesterday. You know, I was kind of kind of 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.440 joking about it, but it's it's a thing. Dan Quinn 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.280 knows what it feels like to get up on a team. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.199 Oh god, right, and not finish them. Oh yeah. I 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.120 mean it sucks that he had to go through that, 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.600 But maybe that situation. I feel like we all go 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.639 through things and prepared us for our future. Maybe that 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.040 situation is preparing him for something that he may face here. 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.080 Maybe down down the road we're playing against Kansas City, 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:47.520 we get up on these boys and yet or we 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.200 need to learn how to finish these boys because their 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.920 ability to hurry from score. Right, So those those past 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.200 experiences help you in the future. So hopefully that's a 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:55.879 lesson that that's learned that he can bring to this 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:57.960 organization as well. That's another thing he can pull out 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.600 of the coach's motivation back, yes, down, I mean right now. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:06.840 I mean his career is fantastic from the Seattle days 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.040 and what he was able to do with that defense 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.240 and then working into the Atlanta days. But he's defined 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.399 by the collapse. He's defined by the Super Bowl collapse. 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.760