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Speaker 1: John Middlecoffe Three and Out podcast, Hopefully you're doing well.

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Speaker 1: Better than Joe Douglas, who was fired as the Jets

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers hired Kyle Shanahan in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: he had been a play caller for close to a decade.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys just started calling plays because they

430
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Speaker 1: were never able to call plays because they worked for

431
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Speaker 1: play callers. Now, it doesn't mean that you won't be

432
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Speaker 1: good at it. I would say, we all think Kevin

433
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Speaker 1: O'Connell's pretty good. And he never really got to call

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Speaker 1: plays when he worked for Sean McVay or Jay Gruden

435
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Speaker 1: because he was the quarterback coach or the offensive coordinator

436
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Speaker 1: where those guys were calling plays. But still, like, I

437
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Speaker 1: just don't know. This is why I brought up the

438
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Speaker 1: names like Kirby Smart. That's why Dan Lanning's name got

439
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Speaker 1: thrown out there. The other day, it's like, who are

440
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Speaker 1: we really competing against? Who are now there are some

441
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Speaker 1: older coaches who are coordinators. Would you sniff around, like,

442
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Speaker 1: is anyone interviewing Steve Spagnola? Is someone interviewing and hiring

443
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Speaker 1: Jesse mentor harbass defensive coordinator? Advanced Joseph Sean Payton's defensive coordinator.

444
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: We've seen him be a head coach before it did

445
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Speaker 1: not go well. So I don't know. I think it's

446
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: easy to fire your coach because you think he stinks.

447
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: And I'll never blame an owner if you don't take

448
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: the guy seriously. You don't take the guy seriously. You

449
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: just pray to God that you're not firing the next

450
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Speaker 1: Belichick or like Dan Snyder in twenty twelve when he

451
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Speaker 1: fired Mike Shanahan and that crew, you're just hoping you fire,

452
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Speaker 1: you know, some rando like Joe Judge, like this is

453
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Speaker 1: gonna age, Well, but who do you hire? I think

454
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Speaker 1: it's so easy to be like, fire the coach, Okay,

455
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Speaker 1: who do you hire? Really quick? On the Netflix thing,

456
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Speaker 1: I watched a decent amount of it. I did have

457
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Speaker 1: a hard time buffering, which really threw me off because

458
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Speaker 1: when we remodeled this house before I even moved in.

459
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Speaker 1: I made this company a lot of money to hard

460
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Speaker 1: to wire my house. Obviously it's my business. I was

461
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: gonna go all YouTube TV, so you could not It's

462
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Speaker 1: it'd be hard, given the size of my house to

463
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Speaker 1: spend any more money on the electrical operation that I

464
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Speaker 1: got set up in my pad with all the TVs wired,

465
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Speaker 1: I have this huge box in a closet that I

466
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Speaker 1: don't even know what it is from the you know,

467
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: it's like Fort Knox with cameras, the whole thing. But

468
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: I had to have the fastest Internet set up humanly possible.

469
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: And I remember turning that thing on, you know, right

470
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Speaker 1: as it started, and it just would not load. And

471
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Speaker 1: it really threw me off and didn't know what was

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Speaker 1: going on. And obviously a bunch of people experienced it,

473
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Speaker 1: and then you just topped on Twitter and everyone complained,

474
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Speaker 1: and everyone complained till the moment that thing end ended.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't quite understand that I get as a

476
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Speaker 1: consumer if I buy a pay per view and I

477
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Speaker 1: go back. And I mentioned this to Colin being in college.

478
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: When Oscar de la Hoya fought Floyd Mayweather, it was

479
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: such a terrible fight, and at the time whatever we paid,

480
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean all chipped in twenty bucks or whatever, one

481
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Speaker 1: hundred bucks nine ninety ninety nine, we watched it across

482
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Speaker 1: the neighbor's house, at Caitlyn's house because she had a

483
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Speaker 1: pretty sweet setup at cal Pauly, and I remember sitting

484
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Speaker 1: around we were all like, this fight sucks, and it's

485
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: happened a lot in boxing, right, You have bought pay

486
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: per views that just haven't been that good. But you

487
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: tell me Floyd's fighting Connor, or We're just gonna buy it,

488
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Speaker 1: and then everyone complains. You have a right to complain

489
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Speaker 1: if the steak doesn't taste good and you just spend

490
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Speaker 1: you know, three hundred dollars a dinner. But at this

491
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Speaker 1: point in time, when everyone owns Netflix, I don't have

492
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Speaker 1: to watch it, so I'm just turning it on. It is.

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Speaker 1: It's not free because I pay for Netflix, but I'm

494
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: not paying for this. You pay for Netflix for the

495
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: catalog of all the bullshit that they give us, and

496
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: ideally five six times a year they give you something

497
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Speaker 1: that blows your mind. It's much more few and far

498
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: between now than I think it used to be. I

499
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: feel like it used to be much better now it's

500
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Speaker 1: much more. Uh, I would say watered down, But like

501
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Speaker 1: I have a hard time complaining about something that I

502
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Speaker 1: didn't pay for directly and I didn't have to watch you. Also,

503
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Speaker 1: part of the intrigue is just anytime you say Mike Tyson,

504
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: it's like saying OJ Simpson. There are certain names that

505
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: just like you start paying attention right, like's what's happening?

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Speaker 1: And that's what Mike Tyson is. He's fifty eight fucking

507
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Speaker 1: years old. Now, I was hoping, like most people that

508
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Speaker 1: I hope iron Mike just hits them with one right,

509
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Speaker 1: gets them close, and hits them with one of those

510
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Speaker 1: famous upper cuts to the jaw and chaos. It was

511
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Speaker 1: clear immediately that was not gonna happen. But when the

512
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Speaker 1: thing ended, it was like I just watched a fifty

513
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Speaker 1: eight year old What did I expect was going to happen?

514
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Speaker 1: If you said, Hey, the Yukon Huskies are going to

515
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Speaker 1: take on Michael Jordan and four other guys we all watch,

516
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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to assume at sixty years old,

517
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan would not be good at basketball. Why he's old,

518
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Speaker 1: I've always said, like Aaron Rodgers, why he sucks now

519
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Speaker 1: he can't move his arm is still really good Dan Marino.

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Speaker 1: If you put him in pads and the commercial where

521
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Speaker 1: he's in pads with like Jerry Rice and Emon Smith

522
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Speaker 1: and just had him throw an out route, if you

523
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Speaker 1: let him warm up his arm, I bet it would

524
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Speaker 1: look pretty good. But if you threw Dan Marino in

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Speaker 1: a UFL game one of those Spring leagues. I bet

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Speaker 1: if you said, hey, Dan Marino is starting for the

527
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Speaker 1: Florida whatever they are against the Birmingham I am, you know,

528
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Rivercats quadruple, the amount of people that would normally watch

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Speaker 1: would watch. I think it's fair to say that he

530
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: would suck. So fifty eight years old boxer, regardless of

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Speaker 1: being one of the all time legends and most powerful

532
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Speaker 1: punchers in the history of civilization. He was fifty eight

533
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Speaker 1: years old. So I think we're so quick to complain.

534
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: I always notice this. Everyone loves doing a negative spin

535
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Speaker 1: on stuff. Sometimes if I just need to chill, I'll

536
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Speaker 1: just go to YouTube and just go down a rabbit

537
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Speaker 1: hole of some music. And I'm a big like type

538
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Speaker 1: in whoever I want to listen to acoustic like, I

539
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: want to hear them just raw and real and if

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Speaker 1: you go to anyone, especially my generation, right, people from

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Speaker 1: the nineties. So like, I find myself just getting in

542
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Speaker 1: these moods where I want to listen to the music

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Speaker 1: that I grew up on. I think, and I will

544
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Speaker 1: probably always think, think that that's the best time in

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Speaker 1: the history of music. Why because that's what I grew

546
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Speaker 1: up on. Just like most people, the music they grew

547
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: up on usually means the most. But if you go

548
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: to the comments section of anything whatever I'm listening to,

549
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 1: Sound Garden, Doctor, Dre, you fucking name it, all the

550
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: comments are with a negative spin. Remember when music was great?

551
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: How much better this music is than what is playing now.

552
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: These guys today could never do this. It's the easiest

553
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: thing to do. And don't get me wrong, Like I

554
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: can be negative as well, but on this situation, like

555
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what anyone expected, right, this was Netflix

556
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: is in the business of getting a lot of people

557
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: to watch these events and it worked. And honestly, boxing

558
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: has been really good at that over the years because

559
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: they do the circus app circus act things that draw

560
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: us in and then we watch and then we immediately complain.

561
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Speaker 1: I told Coward this the other day. I'm not a

562
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: big When I was at cal Pauly, Chuck Laydell was

563
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: in this heyday. Chuck Laydell wrestled at cal Pauly and

564
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: trained at cal Pauly, So it was a really big

565
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: deal in the early mid two thousands, and we used

566
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Speaker 1: to buy the fights and it was awesome because the

567
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Speaker 1: iceman he was a one hitter, quitter. And I don't

568
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: buy most of the UFC cards, not because I don't

569
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: respect the business, not because I don't know how tough

570
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: those guys is. I also went to college with Chad Mendez,

571
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: toughest little fucker I've ever seen in my life and

572
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: probably the toughest guy I'll ever be around. And he

573
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: obviously thought Aldo and Connor McGregor, like you getting that octagon,

574
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: you have to be a complete badass. But even with

575
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: the promotion and they've done a great job and they've

576
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Speaker 1: become a mainstream success, it's not quite the hype of

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Speaker 1: a big boxing match. And maybe because there are fewer

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Speaker 1: of them, maybe because UFC fights a lot, Maybe because

579
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Speaker 1: liked in the fight business like an entertainment. Like in

580
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: team sports, you go as far as your stars go.

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Speaker 1: When was the NBA the biggest in my life, Magic Bird,

582
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: Michael Kobe and Shack When was boxing the biggest in

583
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Speaker 1: my life? Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather, no different than UFC,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Lydell, Connor McGregor. You need stars, and Mike Tyson

585
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: is a star that still has name recognition. It just

586
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: happens that he's fifty eight years old. Okay, let's dive

587
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: into cough on campus. And now I want to to

588
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: introduced a young man who I've run into a couple

589
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: of times at the golf course and he works at

590
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: TPC Scottsdale. And he was just wearing me out on

591
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: the driving range, a place that I go to about

592
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: seven times a year, and just question after question on football.

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00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: And then we started bsing and we became buddies, and

594
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: I realized that he works, you know, he played football

595
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: at Montana. A little walk on Wanta be Julian Edelman

596
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: Historic program. And this guy I see him hustling on

597
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: social media. He introduced me to my video guy Luis

598
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: shooting the golf videos. I was like, this Jackson, guy's

599
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: going places. And I've been thinking for a long time.

600
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I want to I need to

601
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: get some other voices on the podcast, some young, some

602
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: young fervor and fire a football guy and jackson' basked

603
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: me over the last six months, hey man, anything at

604
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: the volume, anything going on? And I've been thinking about

605
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: it for a while, and the other day I was

606
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Speaker 1: I was actually in the sauna. It's where I do

607
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Speaker 1: some of my best thinking. I'm like, I just let's

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00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: just do it. So I text him the other day

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00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna call him intern Jackson. But he's

610
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: going to this guy loves college football and he's gone

611
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: your your college, your college wide receiver coach is at

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: Texas now, right, you and your dad went to the

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00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: Texas game. Yeah.

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00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in my receiver coach in high school.

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Speaker 1: Now he's at Texas.

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00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 3: So to see him kind of transition from high school

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Speaker 3: to Texas. But no, I appreciate the opportunity. God is

618
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: good man.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to.

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Speaker 3: Be on here and talk some college football. And I

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Speaker 3: got some questions for you for cough on campus that

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Speaker 3: I want you to answer.

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Speaker 1: Fire him out and we'll we'll go through them because

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00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of we're recording this before the uh before

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00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: the top twelve reveal which you could argue doesn't really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much influx. Some of these teams

627
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: still play each other. We know we're gonna get some

628
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: upsets once Boise it looks like is gonna probably like

629
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Speaker 1: they're gonna get the spot. I think it's safe to

630
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: say Notre Dame's gonna get the spot. But the SEC

631
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: has to play itself out a little bit. And obviously

632
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Indiana Ohio State this week. But it's been a fun year.

633
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: Like listen, people talk shit about the parody like there's

634
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: not you know, it's wide open. I actually enjoy that,

635
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: Like it's cool when Alabama's in their dynasty or Miami's

636
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: in their dynasty, or Ohio State or Florida or whatever.

637
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: But I think the cool part about this year, however

638
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: it does shake out, is you could argue, of the

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00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: twelve teams that get in, like eight of them are

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: gonna truly feel like they can win the Natty. You know,

641
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Boise it is boys are gonna feel like they can

642
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: win the Natty? Is Indiana gonna feel like they can

643
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: win the Natty? Probably not. You know, you're a Notre

644
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: Dame fan, Can they win the Natty?

645
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: I just want one game. I just want one win, John,

646
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: just one win. That's all I asked for. I gotta

647
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: be army this weekend though, So let's starting.

648
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: To buy you.

649
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: LSU lost three straight games Texas A and m Alabama Florida. John,

650
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: does LSU have a Brian Kelly problem?

651
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is I think when we look

652
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: back three years ago, they wanted Lincoln Riley and rightfully so,

653
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: and it kind of felt like when he went to

654
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: USC for one hundred and twenty million dollars, they got,

655
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, the second girl at the bar, who was

656
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: a little chubbier, not as good looking, but hey, they

657
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: were desperate and she was an upgrade over what they

658
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: were dating. I thought that it would work and maybe

659
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: not win a national championship over the first three years,

660
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: but they would you told me there was a twelve

661
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: team playoff, I would have been like Brian Kelly's in

662
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think this year is way more embarrassing

663
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: than last year. Like they just had a situation where

664
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: their defense was terrible, but they still had the Heisman

665
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: Trophy winning quarterback who looks like he's going to be

666
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: a star. Widers they were a really really fun watch.

667
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 1: You know, once you lose the USC in a game

668
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: that I give you a lot of credit because remember

669
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley saying I want out right and Brian Kelly's like,

670
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: fuck that we're playing and you lose whatever. But these

671
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: three games, to lose that A and M the way

672
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: they did in the second half, to get boat raced

673
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: at home with Nick Saban being gone, and to lose

674
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: that game at Florida. Now, Florida's a tough place to

675
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: play and that team was coming, but that was embarrassing.

676
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: BRO eight and four at LSU is an epic disaster.

677
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: Year three, I mean with NFL players everywhere, I don't know.

678
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean they can't. I read like the way the

679
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: buyout works, it's basically a year by year thing. So

680
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: they're paying the guy ninety million dollars. He's into year

681
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: three like he's not going anywhere. But I don't see

682
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: how anyone serious around the program looks at him the same.

683
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: And the only way that he's gonna get out of

684
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: it is like next year being the final four. But

685
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: just to get there, we know how hard, I mean,

686
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: look how hard it is in the SEC. So does

687
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: nuss Meyer come back to school? He probably does do

688
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: they want him to come back to school. I mean,

689
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: he's they started playing real teams, he's looked like shit,

690
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, you're a Notre Dame guy.

691
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of you guys are kind of

692
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: dancing on his grave. The irony is that it's easier

693
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame because you guys play nobody. If he

694
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: just there to go eleven and one every year, like,

695
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: it's just way harder in the SEC.

696
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: I think it's interesting too with LSU. It's like, would

697
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 3: you want to win a national championship or do you

698
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: want to win eight nine games barely make the playoff?

699
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: And then I was gonna ask you too, like they've

700
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: got this five star kid. I'm sure you've heard of him,

701
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 3: Bryce Underwood. Do they kind of are they worried to

702
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: get rid of Brian Kelly because they don't want to

703
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: lose his five star or do you think that they

704
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: could get another Deon Sanders come in from Colorado?

705
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Speaker 1: But isn't that the guy that they he's gonna charge

706
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: like ten million dollars that now Michigan's involved, and maybe

707
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: LSU doesn't have the funds. Just big picture, I would

708
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: be very uncomfortable always paying huge money for a high

709
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: school quarterback. I mean everyone acted like Matt Ruhle was,

710
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: you know, gonna win a national championship in a couple

711
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: of years because he got Dylan Royola for four five

712
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: million dollars, and you know, it's pretty clear the reason

713
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: that he didn't go to Georgia is like Kirby's like,

714
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: we're not paying it that much money. And I watched

715
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: Dylan Ryola after Everyone's like he's Patrick mahonmes two point out,

716
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: like he's just not a very good player right now.

717
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that's just this is nothing personal.

718
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: He's just I watch him and I go, like, for

719
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: five million dollars, this is not gonna work. I feel

720
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: much better like paying a Dylan Gabriel, paying a Panics,

721
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: paying a bon Nix, like people that, you know, cam Ward,

722
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: I would not be in the business of paying ten million,

723
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: like if I'm lsu, I am not getting into a

724
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: eight ten million dollar bidding war of over a high

725
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: school recruit. I mean, look look at Oklahoma, you know,

726
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: I mean Jackson Arnold Boom camp Nico can't miss. It's

727
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: like you watch him, it's like this is it's a

728
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. So I think LSU you just got

729
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: to stick it out with Brian Kelly. But man, how

730
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: do you think of all the hype too, of the

731
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: of the coaches in the SEC that everyone's excited about. Obviously,

732
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: Georgia thinks they have Nick Saban two point zero rightfully,

733
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: So if you're Texas, you're proud of Sark, like he's

734
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: a he's a real coach. Ole Miss best coach they've

735
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: had in my life. Alabama, You're like you were down

736
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: on him, he's kind of pissing you off. Then boom,

737
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: he kicks LSU's asked, and now you're feeling good. So

738
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Speaker 1: it's like, of all the top programs, I would say

739
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: LSU is like the most down on their coach, which

740
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: is a problem when you're paying a got ten million dollars.

741
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: Speaking of a program that's high in their coach. Right now,

742
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: Colorado Buffalo's that are now favored according to the Draft Kings

743
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: to win the Big Twelve assuming they went out. Assuming

744
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: they win the Big Twelve championship, which could be against

745
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: ASU or BYU this Saturday, can Colorado win a playoff game?

746
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: If you win the conference means you're a top four seed.

747
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Does that mean you get a home game or by

748
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: the time they plays or are on neutral sites? Do

749
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: you know the answer to.

750
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: That Top four would be neutral site, which would be

751
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: the festival here. But it's weird because they're a two

752
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: loss team. Boise State's a one loss team. So some

753
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 3: are saying that Colorado wins, they win the Big Twelve,

754
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: that Boise State would get that first round by and

755
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: then Colorado would get the twelve seed going to Oregon

756
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 3: or Ohio State.

757
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: But you automatically get a top four seed right when

758
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Speaker 1: you win the conference.

759
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: Correct, correct, Yeah, but it's the top four conference champions.

760
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: That's why they're kind of speculating that Boise State could

761
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: slip in there as that fourth.

762
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh if you're saying that if Colorado has two losses,

763
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: and really when you look at it, like who have

764
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: they beat? And that's part of the problem. I heard

765
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: Rosillo go on this rant. You know, forever it was

766
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: conference aligned, you know, inside a conference, the PAC twelve,

767
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, I guess the Big twelve wasn't, but

768
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: the Big ten in the SEC was split east and

769
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: west or north and south. Now it's kind of random,

770
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 1: like the Georgia schedule this year is pretty insane, right,

771
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: and then you look at Colorado their schedule. They they

772
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 1: don't play BYU in the regular season. Now they played

773
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: Kansas State and they lost, but they don't even play

774
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: ASU until they would the championship game. Did they even

775
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: play Iowa State? And I'm not hating on them because

776
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: they have been really impressive. I if you told me,

777
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: and again, like, depending on how it shakes out, they

778
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: get a home game, I think that would be a

779
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: pretty crazy place. That place has been rocking this year.

780
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: If it's a neutral site game, Like if they get

781
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: a neutral site game against like Texas or Georgia or

782
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: even like a Penn State, I think it would be

783
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: very very difficult for them, Notre Dame whoever, all all

784
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: the big seven eight teams. I think it would be

785
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: a problem. I think a home game would be I'd

786
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: give them a fighting chance because I would say a

787
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: neutral site against the top seven eight teams, the Bamas,

788
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: the Tennessee's, the Georgia's, Ohio State, Oregon, I think they'd

789
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: be like a ten point underdog. What's been the biggest

790
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: thing for maybe a little less, but I feel like

791
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: they would be a touchdown underdog, don't you think?

792
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's been the biggest thing for you

793
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 3: for Colorado that you've been most impressed with? From where

794
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: we saw the beginning of the season when they lost

795
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: to Nebraska, a lot of people wrote them off, including

796
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: myself to now.

797
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: What's there? They were joking that game it was like

798
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: it felt like they were going to win three or

799
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: four games. I would say it has to be if

800
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: you watch them play. They are so good now on

801
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: defense relative to what they were. I mean last year

802
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: they were even that first game against North Dakota State.

803
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: Who you fault like, is North Dkota State having a

804
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: good season? Pretty good? Yeah?

805
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: Top three in the FCS right now?

806
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah. So, I mean they are consistent. They've

807
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: won a bunch of national championships. I mean they are

808
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: I would say over the last fifteen twenty years the

809
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: Alabama of that kind of division or right you know,

810
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: Alabama ls Ohio State like one of the powerhouse programs.

811
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: So I didn't hold it against them that they were

812
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: in a tighter game, but in that game, it was like,

813
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: got their defense is the same. They can't and they

814
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: are they don't have the athletes that some of these

815
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: big twelve teams. So I just expected them to not

816
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: get to six games. But as the season has gone on,

817
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean their defensive line, like Hier and Warren Sap,

818
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean that unit is flying around and that Shepherd

819
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 1: kid that they the transfer from Vanderbilt, number fourteen, He's

820
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: been really really good for them, you know. I think

821
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: offensively they feel a little bit more balanced, and defensively

822
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: that D line, I mean just I feel like they

823
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: pressured the court. They were never they were a joke

824
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: last year. Now they are not. Also, they're really rolling

825
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: right now. This Kansas game. I think a lot of

826
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: people in the gambling community are kind of in on

827
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Kansas been playing well. It's gonna be tough. I mean,

828
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: this was a team that a lot of people thought

829
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: could be a sleep or playoff team right ku before

830
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: the season. I think they lost a ton of one

831
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: score games. I was at a bar like last weekend,

832
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: and it was Colorado was about to kick off against

833
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Texa Tech and Kansas was kicking off against Iowa State,

834
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: and it was like twenty one to seven before you

835
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: could even play like Kansas playing well. So it's gonna

836
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: be if Colorado wins this week. I feel pretty confident,

837
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: like ASU's had a great season, but they're not as

838
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: good as Colorado? Are they? Mm hmm, I don't. I don't.

839
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: I don't think so. But they could be. They could

840
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: be BYU this weekend. Who knows.

841
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to the say you could lose the BYU

842
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: two and then it would be b YU Colorado, right, yeah,

843
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: which would also be a tough game, like Colorado would

844
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: be no lock to beat b YU. Like b YU.

845
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: We can question whether they were a great undefeated team,

846
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: but they're good, right, I mean that that would be

847
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: really really hard. So if Colorado does win out and

848
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: that includes let's say b YU, that's a pretty impressive

849
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: beating this Kansas team the way they're playing, and then

850
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: beating BYU in the in the neutral site, pretty big

851
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: twelve neutral site. Pretty sure they are. Yeah, they played

852
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: at and T Stadium, Yeah for a T and T. Yeah, Yeah,

853
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: so it's that'd be That'll be a lot of people

854
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: they are rooting for d On, a lot of Cowboy fans.

855
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: Hopefully the stadium doesn't.

856
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: Breakdown when they play that game.

857
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: Geez.

858
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: Third question for you, Let's go back to the SEC

859
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 3: as it sits right now, Texas is first nine to one,

860
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: followed by five, eight and two teams. I ask you, John,

861
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: who's the best team of the SEC right now? Or

862
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: I should say who do you trust the most? Because

863
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: every team we see week in and week out perform

864
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: their best, look like they're the best team, and then

865
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 3: the next week they lose.

866
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: I would say, Carson Beck is gonna play like he

867
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: did the other night. I mean, everyone's like, oh what

868
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: about Carson Beck? Now? Well, yet he had not looked

869
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: like that all season. If he had been playing like

870
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: the game he just had at home against Tennessee, we'd

871
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: be talking about him like a lock first round pick. Instead,

872
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: he played like an undrafted free agent. But when your

873
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: defense is going to be that good and they are

874
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: loaded with NFL guys and you have a quarterback who

875
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean he was making like layered throws, that's the

876
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: best team in the country. Like we you know, listened.

877
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they were so bad that first half against Alabama,

878
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: but they did lightening up in the second half and

879
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: comes storming back. They beat the shit out of Texas.

880
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: They were down ten to nothing against Tennessee and came

881
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: storming back and won by multiple touchdowns, Like, I think

882
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: their ceiling is the highest because if they're like Carson

883
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: Beck if he's playing well and quinn Ewers if he's

884
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: playing well. I like Carson Beck Moore. I'm not a

885
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: huge fan of either quarterback, but I like their I

886
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: just believe in Kirby Smart. Yes, the one thing was

887
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: Sark like, they have an awesome roster. You could argue

888
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: beside Ohio State, the best roster money can buy, but like,

889
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: is he truly? My thing with Sark always is like

890
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: is he a tough guy? And I think sometimes in

891
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: college football when when you get to the final four,

892
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: now the final eight, like everyone's gonna be loaded with

893
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: NFL guys. Now, it's like, who's a fucking tough That's

894
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: what Saban always had, Like I was a tough Urban

895
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: had that. They're just these crazy tough mode in the

896
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: history of college football, it's a lot of that, right.

897
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: These coaches aren't like known for being Bill Walsh or

898
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: Bill Bill Belichick on a whiteboard. Saban was an outlier,

899
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: But I would say Saban hung his hat on being

900
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: like that guy could give a fucking pregame speech and

901
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: get the troops ready. And I think Kirby is the

902
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: best version of that. It's like the one thing like

903
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Ryan Day and Chip like they're not tough guys. Like

904
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: why do people on Dan Lanning, Well, who's who did

905
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: he mentor under Kirby? You know, listen, your guy Notre

906
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: Dame is a tough guy, right, He's a former linebacker

907
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State like he is. Now, are they dynamic enough

908
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: on offense? But I do believe like he is a

909
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: tough guy. It's just kind of come down to you know,

910
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: rocket his smile and Jerome bettis like if they were

911
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: if they had LSU's talent on offense skill wise, I

912
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: would take Notre Dame more. Seriously, what do you make

913
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: of Old.

914
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: Miss after that win against Georgia? You didn't think if

915
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: they get in they're gonna be a tough out for

916
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: teams in the playoff for sure. I mean they got

917
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback, they got a coach that does not

918
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: give a shit. I would say Lane kind of is

919
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: in his own little world though, like he's not. It's weird, right,

920
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: like Sark and Ryan Day are under more pressure, like

921
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: when you coach at Old Miss last I think last

922
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: year when he won double digit games, it was the

923
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 3: first time in Old Miss history they'd gone back to

924
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: back years with double digit games. It's like they're just

925
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: so excited to have a competent football.

926
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Program right where he's not under the same pressure as

927
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: his guy sark Like it was like a couple of

928
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: years ago, it's like, start gonna make it here. Once

929
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: Lane won ten games first time, it's like, hey, contract extention,

930
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: just stay here forever. Even Ryan Day, it's like, I'm

931
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: not the biggest Ryan Day guy, but his record is

932
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: fantastic and he's like fighting for his job. So it's

933
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: like it's hard to know what he would look like.

934
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: I would say this, the talent on that roster is

935
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. I mean what they did at Georgia the

936
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: other night or a couple of weeks ago in the rain. Now,

937
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: I think sometimes in college football in the SEC, these

938
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: home field advantages are just so crazy. So it's like, yeah,

939
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: if they just played a bunch of neutral sites games,

940
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: Like does how many times z ole Miss beat Georgia

941
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: on a neutral site? They played ten times? Probably two

942
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: or three, But you get them at home, you know,

943
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: that was a big advantage. Like Tennessee got Bama at Tennessee.

944
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: You know, it just depends. You know, Georgia had to

945
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: go to Bama. I do think when you look at

946
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: all these top teams that are all vying for the playoffs,

947
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: most of their biggest wins against other sweet teams have

948
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: not been on the road. Right A and M beat

949
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: LSU at home, Bama beat Georgia at home, Georgia beat

950
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: Tennessee at home, Ole Miss beat Georgia at home. These

951
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: fucking places are bananas, and most of these games now

952
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: that like the new TV deals, I feel like all

953
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: the big primetime games this year have been the sec

954
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: haven't they. Oh yeah, oh yeah, ABC's ESPN deal they have.

955
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 3: It's that one, that one PM slot and that four

956
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 3: to thirty PM slot, and.

957
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: Now yeah, the four to thirty spot has been the prime.

958
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: It used to be kind of go back and forth

959
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, like for most of my adult life,

960
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: like Ohio State and Michigan and some of the Pac

961
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: twelve teams. Would you know, it would kind of rotate.

962
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: But now you know the big controversy of Big Noon

963
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: and rightfully so they own that morning spot, which is

964
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: basically all Ohio State. We're is pissing people off. But listen,

965
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: it's you're not you would split viewers against the SEC.

966
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: So in terms of like they're getting these massive viewers

967
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: because they're not the morning slot typically sucks and then

968
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: the SEC and the Big ten or I guess not

969
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 1: the Big ten, but some of the former PAC twelve

970
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: schools that are in the Big ten now play in

971
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: that one o'clock four thirty slot and it hurts the

972
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: SC's down because they It's like someone text me the

973
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: other day, like, what do you think in Nebraska USC,

974
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't even know they were playing, right,

975
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even know the game was on fighting for

976
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: a Bowl game.

977
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: Speaking of Big Noon, my fourth question for you, sir,

978
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 3: can Indiana stun Ohio State? And if Indiana loses margin

979
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: of loss I guess will be in consideration for this game.

980
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: Can the Hoosiers still get in the playoff?

981
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be a polarizing question because

982
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: I do think if they lose, like and I don't

983
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: think this is gonna happen, I would expect. I don't

984
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: know why, besides just watching them play against random Big

985
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: ten teams, they beat the shit out of them, Like

986
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: Indiana has rolled people. Now this is a completely different

987
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: world on the road, and he do you know what's

988
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: crazy is like, can you imagine a bunch of dudes

989
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: you play with at Montana? I mean, things have changed

990
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: because of transfer portal and stuff. Just like two years

991
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: later being at like a big Tanner SEC school and

992
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: all being starters on undefeated team at ten and zero

993
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: and like like this team's gonna be one of the best.

994
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: That's just a crazy. When I was at cal Pauly,

995
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: we were pretty good, and the jump when I got

996
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: to Fresno State felt like Jesus and all those guys.

997
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: He took a bunch of JMU guys and my buddy

998
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: did his guy Haberman that does Big ten Network, that's

999
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: called a bunch of their games. He's like, do you

1000
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: know when he originally recruited those guys at GMU, they

1001
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: weren't like the appy state like they had already bumped up.

1002
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: They were still down in D one, double A. So

1003
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: the you could argue that's why he's like an eight

1004
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: to nine million if he can if he can develop players,

1005
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: I mean, what an incredible opportunity because you're never gonna

1006
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: out recruit Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, LSU. But if I

1007
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: can get the middle tier guys, why can't I be

1008
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: like the Boise State of the Big ten. So he

1009
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: has a huge value. But we're gonna find out, like

1010
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 1: can his dudes from JMU who have looked incredible. It's

1011
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: I would say it's a little different animal here those

1012
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, what's the receiver's name, Jeremiah Smith of the

1013
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: safety that they paid like five million dollars from Alabama.

1014
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys aren't like really good call. These

1015
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: guys are like top five NFL players. Like if these

1016
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: guys could come out after their freshman or sophomore years,

1017
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: they're getting drafted in the top ten. So and listen

1018
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: some of his JM. You guys from Indiana are probably

1019
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: gonna get drafted on like the third day, which is

1020
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: which is awesome, Like you can play the NFL for

1021
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: a long time. But I would love it if Indiana won.

1022
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time. If it's close, it's

1023
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: an incredible achievement. I do think though, if he gets

1024
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: his shit kicked in, Like if it's like thirty to

1025
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: nothing in half and going into the fourth quarter it's

1026
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 1: like forty five to seven, I think people will start

1027
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: answering the asking the question, and then you know who's

1028
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna get loud as the SEC guys like, wait, they

1029
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: get to play nobody like I was thinking if because

1030
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: for a minute, when you're down to ten nothing and

1031
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, George is gonna lose? You can't. They're

1032
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: gonna have three losses and they're not gonna make the playoffs.

1033
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: We all acknowledge they're one of the best ten teams,

1034
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,959
Speaker 1: but because of their crazy schedule, Like is Indiana better

1035
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: than them? I'll give Penn State a little more room,

1036
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: even though like their head coach lose all these games.

1037
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: They do have NFL guys everywhere and they are tough,

1038
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: Like I do think if Indiana played Penn State, I

1039
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: would take Penn State. And maybe I'm wrong, Maybe Kirk

1040
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: Signetti is like the next Nick Saban. I don't know,

1041
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: but I would be. I would be surprised. Now if

1042
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: you like it, I think it's like a ten point

1043
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: like they're getting a lot of points for a nundfeather

1044
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: and half put it this way, if the same thing

1045
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: had happened and it was Penn State or Michigan who

1046
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: had been beating the ship out of these teams going

1047
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: into the Ohio State game. This game would be like

1048
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: a three point line, you know, and we'd be talking.

1049
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: We wouldn't even question, like this game would be irrelevant.

1050
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: They would be a lock to be in the playoffs.

1051
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: And you could argue that maybe they are actually a

1052
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: lock in that committee room. But yeah, I would not

1053
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: want to be Indiana and get blown out and take

1054
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: my chances because like they will just lean with let's

1055
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: just load up on those two loss teams. You know.

1056
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people football guys and like

1057
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: players would make the argument that, like the two lost

1058
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: SEC teams are just better if you get destroyed in

1059
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: this game, I don't know. I mean, do you think

1060
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: they got a shot?

1061
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: No, at Ohio State. I would was a neutral cier

1062
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: at Indiana. I think one thing to look in this

1063
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: game is if Curtis Rourke throws the interception early, he

1064
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: starts out slow, it's gonna be a long day for him.

1065
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: But I think if they can keep it close, like

1066
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: you said, like if they lose by a touchdown, I

1067
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: think into the committee's eyes, it's a better loss than

1068
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: Penn State at home. But I mean it's a hell

1069
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: of a story though, I'd love to see love to

1070
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: see them make the playoff.

1071
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: But they're probably I would say it would have to

1072
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: take a massacre for them to get left out. You

1073
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: could probably lose by twenty points.

1074
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: I think I think they're minus five hundred to make

1075
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 3: the playoff right now.

1076
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: Being yeah, so you could lose like forty to twenty

1077
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: and let's just say a half, it's you know, twenty

1078
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: one to ten or something. Yeah, it'd be like attle House.

1079
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: I think they'd be okay. The one thing they've done

1080
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: and a couple of times I watched them, I mean

1081
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: one time I had a pretty big bet on Nebraska.

1082
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: They boat race you early, like that's been an Indiana thing.

1083
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: And then they they're kind of like the Detroit Lions

1084
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Obviously the Lions we know are really good.

1085
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: We're about to find now. They like start kicking you

1086
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: when you're down, like they don't call off the dogs.

1087
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I I like Ohio State,

1088
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: but don't get me wrong, I would love it would

1089
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: make my Saturday to see Indiana win this game.

1090
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: If Indiana wins by seven or fourteen, do they jump

1091
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: Oregon as the number one team in the Country or do.

1092
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: They stay at two. That's a good question. I mean,

1093
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: I well, they would basically be a lock then to

1094
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: play Oregon. It wouldn't really matter because Ohio State would

1095
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: essentially be done right because I think is Indiana's last

1096
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: game perdue Indian So it would be Indiana Oregon. So

1097
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: even if you just like they play each other, which

1098
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: whoever would win that game would be a lock to

1099
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: be number one. That would be if he were to

1100
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: beat Ohio State. Sometimes, you know, upsets happened early in

1101
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: the season, you don't quite know when it happens, and

1102
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: then they age either better or worse. This is one

1103
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: of those, like we've had a long build up to this,

1104
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: Ohio he doesn't get to sneak up on Ohio State. Right.

1105
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Sometimes upsets in like September, you

1106
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of get to sleep on, like the team gets

1107
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: to sneak up on you. Even Vanderbilt when they beat Alabama,

1108
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: I think it would be a lot different three weeks later.

1109
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: But you just played Georgia. You're playing Vanderbilt. I just

1110
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 1: don't take you seriously because you're Vanderbilt. If Ohio State

1111
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: had played Indiana, like five weeks ago. Even if they

1112
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: were five and zero. I wonder if they would they

1113
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: just they would not take them as seriously no chance,

1114
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: but there is no way, there's no avoiding. Like I

1115
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: think they're treating this game like they're playing Penn State

1116
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: or Oregon, which sucks for Indiana because I think part

1117
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: of a good upset is, like when you're clearly unmanned,

1118
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: is you get to fly under the radar, like get

1119
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: to attack from the back. But like when they put

1120
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: their soldiers behind the house, it's harder to do a

1121
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: sneak attack.

1122
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fun game. I'm speaking in the

1123
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: Big Ten. My fifth question for you. Three weeks ago,

1124
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: you said on your show that you liked Oregon to

1125
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: win the national championship. We've seen this this season where

1126
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: some teams at the top have had some scared games.

1127
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: They had a narrow victory last weekend sixteen to thirteen

1128
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: at Wisconsin. Has your view changed on the Ducks after

1129
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: that narrow victory?

1130
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're like I said about the SEC,

1131
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: I would say Wisconsin is one of the places and

1132
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: we don't see it as much because these Big Ten

1133
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: teams play a lot of morning games. When you do

1134
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: play a night game in some of these places, Penn State, Wisconsin,

1135
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: they do have an sec vibe like that's a tough

1136
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: place to play and you're still dealing with eighteen nineteen

1137
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: twenty year old guys, like you don't get to blow

1138
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: everyone out. I still like Oregon a lot. I one

1139
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: I guess thing I would change my tune on. I

1140
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: do think it's going to be very, very difficult to

1141
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: bet on who's gonna win the National Championship because one,

1142
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: you're not getting great odds on like Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia,

1143
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: and to me, there are no lock to make it

1144
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: pass like it's gonna be hard for them to get

1145
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: to the final four, and there are no lock to

1146
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: be in the final game. So you might just be

1147
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: better off betting on an individual game basis. I think

1148
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: it's pretty wide open. I saw something on TV as

1149
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: like college Football today or you know like if all

1150
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: miss gets in, could they win the Natty? Well, hell yeah,

1151
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: And that's I don't think we could say that, you

1152
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: know in recent years now, granted it was just a

1153
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: small pool, but it was pretty clear, like looking back

1154
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: last year, you know, the National Championship turns out it

1155
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: was Michigan Alabama because Washington, while they match up really

1156
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: good against Texas, it would have been those two defenses

1157
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: were too good. They just wouldn't have been able to

1158
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean Alabama has like corners starting for the Detroit Allance,

1159
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean their defense, the pass rusher who went in

1160
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: the first round of the Minnesota Vikings like that would

1161
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: have been they would have lost those two games. So

1162
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: it turns out the National Championship was at the Rose Bowl.

1163
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to be able to

1164
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: say that about like any of these games now, Oregon

1165
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: has as good of a chance as any But like,

1166
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: do you think Notre Dame can win national championship?

1167
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 3: No?

1168
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: No, I think game you gotta play more games.

1169
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: Right, I do think Notre Dame at home against Penn

1170
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 3: State would be a closer game than people expect. I

1171
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 3: think Notre Dame would be an underdog.

1172
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: Like I get it.

1173
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 3: Notre Dame hasn't played anybody than I you loss. I

1174
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: hear about it every day, you know, week two and stuff.

1175
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 3: But if you talk about most impressive team the last

1176
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 3: two months that's been dominating teams like Indiana has, Notre

1177
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 3: Dame has Riley Leonard has been more confident in the pocket.

1178
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 3: But I do worry about USC next week on the

1179
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 3: road because those are one of those games that Notre Dames,

1180
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 3: like you talk about Brian Kelly winning those games, Marcus

1181
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: Freeman usually loses that last week in a rivalry.

1182
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: Game when they need to win it most. So the

1183
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: one thing you're going for, the one thing you get

1184
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: going for. There will be no home field advantage for ESC,

1185
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: No one cares. It'll be pretty life. If anything, There'll

1186
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: be a lot like West Coast Notre Dame fans out there.

1187
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: You could argue it be a Notre Dame home game, true, you.

1188
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: Should go to that Probably be cheap tickets I'll use,

1189
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: I'll use game time, yeah, coach on game time, Yeah.

1190
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there's gonna be there's gonna be a

1191
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on three or four coaches in that

1192
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: first round, the non by teams, and if those two

1193
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 1: teams play each other there probably there'll be You could

1194
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: argue there'll be more pressure on James Franklin than any coach,

1195
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, five through twelve those original games, because if

1196
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: he can't, especially if he's favored against Notre Dame, technically

1197
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 1: he's he probably won't get a home game. Huh, probably

1198
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: won't happen.

1199
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 3: Mm, probably not.

1200
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 1: No, I don't, I don't. I don't know. It's either

1201
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna be like the fifth or the sixth, or they're out,

1202
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: like they either beat USC and they're like one of

1203
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: the top teams, or they're just out. If they lose

1204
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: that game, they're out. There's no margin for victory, which

1205
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 1: the SEC would love for Notre Dame to lose because

1206
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: that would basically get them five teams.

1207
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you to my last question, bonus

1208
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: question six, do you value because now with the transfer

1209
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 3: portal and nil, like the landscape of college football is

1210
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: just evened out and you always hear, well, they haven't

1211
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: played anybody but eye.

1212
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: Test strike the schedule.

1213
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: Do you value strike the schedule now because of the

1214
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: new landscape of college football or is it more eye

1215
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: test in your opinion?

1216
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: What for both? The thing to me, the thing with

1217
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: strength of schedule is like a schedule could look good

1218
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season and then by the

1219
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: end looks shittier. And I think sometimes you know in

1220
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: the SEC, like this is gonna be a hard schedule,

1221
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: This is not gonna be hard. But like when a

1222
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: team runs the table that no one thought, like Indiana,

1223
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: like people picked them to win like three or four games,

1224
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: and then they win and you try to discount it.

1225
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: I think one thing that hurts the Big Ten is

1226
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: just down because Michigan sucks. So like part of the

1227
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: SEC argument's always been like, you know, the bottom sucks. Well, yeah,

1228
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: the middle tier has always been loaded with NFL players.

1229
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: So you had these teams winning six or seven games,

1230
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: but they were full of like five or six guys

1231
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: from those teams would be drafted and then the top

1232
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: teams were elite, and the Big Ten always had that too,

1233
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: but now their top They got very lucky that Oregon

1234
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: got involved because like Ohio State Oregon, Penn State's kind

1235
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: of established what they are, an NFL factory that you

1236
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: don't trust to win any big game. I do think

1237
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: the eye test has to matter because like Penn State

1238
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: has not beat anybody, and they haven't in a long time,

1239
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: but it's clear they're pretty damn good because of the

1240
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: NFL players they have like on their front seven and

1241
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: they're beating ninety five percent of the country. It just

1242
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: happens like, yeah, the last three years Jim Harbaugh owned them. Well, yeah,

1243
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh had an NFL team. Ohio State kicks their ass.

1244
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, Ohi State kicks everyone's ass except like two

1245
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: or three teams in the country. So you know, I

1246
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a tough argument. There's no right or

1247
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: wrong answer. But the eye test watching a team play

1248
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: over the course of a season has to matter, right,

1249
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: it just does. Like clearly, you know, A and M

1250
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: loses Notre Dame and then as you've seen them play,

1251
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: like they clearly have a good coach and they're loaded

1252
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: with NFL players. Now just because you have an eye test,

1253
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: that would have been the thing for Georgia. Like if

1254
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: they would have lost that game to Tennessee and they

1255
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: had three losses, your argument to get them into the

1256
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: playoff would have been the eye test. It's like, guys,

1257
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: they got every single position on defense, they got an

1258
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: NFL draft pick, they got NFL players on offense. Their

1259
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: quarterback coming into the coming into the season was viewed

1260
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: as a first round er. He had a bad season,

1261
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: but they still have the best coach. It's harder to

1262
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: make that, so you have to have like at the

1263
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: end of the day, it does come down to winning

1264
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: and losing the games, right, And that's like Clemson's a

1265
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: good example, Like I'm glad they lost that second game.

1266
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: They're just not as good as a lot of these teams.

1267
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: If you put Clemson in the SEC, they're not six

1268
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: and six, but they're probably like eight and four, right,

1269
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be what ten and two, Like I

1270
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: watched a lot of that game against pitt the other day.

1271
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean they should have lost that game, right, Yeah,

1272
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: So I.

1273
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: Was gonna ask you too because on that topic, like

1274
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 3: Texas right now, so people are kind of speculating that

1275
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 3: if Texas's the Texas A and M next week, their

1276
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 3: best wins Vanderbilt. But to your point about it tests everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Their second loss, they'd be their second loss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they'd be in the six way tie, Like

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Speaker 3: it'd be A and M beat Texas, but Texas beat Vanderbilt,

1280
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 3: who's not even in the mix. They won't even have

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Speaker 3: a win with the top six teams in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: So do they get they would be tough because it's

1283
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: clear they are loaded with talent, Like no one argues that,

1284
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: like they are a top five roster in college football.

1285
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: They got curb stomped by Georgia, which was pretty embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I think the where's that game in A and M?

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Speaker 1: At A and M. That's a tough way to play,

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01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: So I I think one thing they have going for

1289
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: him is they were a playoff team last year. They

1290
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: rolled back a lot of the dudes. I'd have no

1291
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: problem if they got in, But I would understand the

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: argument because part of it, like you know, last year,

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01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: for example, once it came down to the end, and

1294
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: remember the argument was like once Bama beat Georgia, It's like, well,

1295
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: Texas beat Alabama. So I'm a big believer in the

1296
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: head to head even if you play twelve or thirteen.

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01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:28,839
Speaker 1: You know, if you end up going the conference chapionship,

1298
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 1: you play thirteen games, what's the whole point of the sport?

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01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: If I beat you straight up? Like, let's just say

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: the final spot came down to Notre Dame in A

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: and M. Like, even if A and M has incredible wins,

1302
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: I played you and I beat you, like well at

1303
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: the beginning. No, that's the whole point of this whole

1304
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: fucking sport is to play a game who wins and

1305
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 1: who loses? Now that's it's not gonna come down to that,

1306
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,799
Speaker 1: right because Notre Dame is gonna have a less loss.

1307
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: But let's just say in that scenario, like whenever it

1308
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 1: comes in that scenario in football, I get in college

1309
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: basketball where you play all these games, and football you

1310
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: only play twelve, so like everyone really really matters, and

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't really know how, Like what if there are

1312
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: no upsets in the SEC? Like right now, who's I

1313
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 1: guess if Texas wins out? They were in the SEC

1314
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: championship game, right.

1315
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be Texas and then Georgia would get

1316
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 3: in because A and m's second right now, But if

1317
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 3: they lose to Texas, they'd get knocked out. Georgia would

1318
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 3: get in.

1319
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: So if you're in the SEC because Georgia beat Alabama,

1320
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, correct, and they also beat Tennessee and then

1321
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 1: Ole misses all the way down there because of common

1322
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: opponents and tyer. So here's what's going to be interesting though,

1323
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: So Georgia plays Texas, right and they got two losses.

1324
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: What if they lose that game? So Texas beats them?

1325
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: So obviously Texas is probably the two seed behind Oregon.

1326
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State potentially the one. I guess if Ohio State

1327
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 1: were to win that game, Georgia then has three losses,

1328
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: but they'd go, well, Ole Miss in Alabama are ten

1329
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: and two. They didn't even play. That is kind of

1330
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: worst case scenario where things get weird. I would guess

1331
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Georgia would just be in. Wuld they get in? Like,

1332
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: do you think they'd get in over one of those

1333
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: two loss teams with the third loss, especially the game close?

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Speaker 1: I think they have to.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna ask you, is like, you

1336
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 3: can't punish a team that makes it the SEC Championship.

1337
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 3: And if you're the SEC right now, you almost hope

1338
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: that Texas beats Texas A and M because then you've

1339
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: got all two loss teams and then it's like you

1340
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: get one to three loss either Texas or Georgia. To

1341
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 3: your point, how do they not get in if they

1342
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: have that extra game? But you saw last year in

1343
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 3: the four team playoff that Georgia made it to the

1344
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: SEC Championship and lost to Bama. But I guess Bama,

1345
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 3: you know, had a good performance there and they got

1346
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 3: knocked on any think from like one to four or

1347
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: one to five, I should say, being Georgia. So I

1348
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 3: think it's a lot of debate, a lot of discussion.

1349
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 3: It's just gonna be weird how the committee decides it.

1350
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: In the SEC bias, Indiana is throwing the curve ball

1351
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: in this because if they didn't exist, if they were

1352
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: just like an eight and four team having a great

1353
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: year but not a playoff team, the Big ten would

1354
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: just get their three teams. It'd be Oregon, Ohio State,

1355
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: Penn State, and the SEC would get their five.

1356
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 3: And you kind of hope that Notre Dame loses if

1357
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 3: you're the SEC, because then that takes the spot out

1358
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 3: of there too.

1359
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: So but I would say, if you just did the

1360
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: math looking forward to the next five years, you know

1361
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's upcoming schedule better than mine. But as long

1362
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: as they're going to stay independent, they're probably going to

1363
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: be there more often than not, right in the mix.

1364
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: So and especially if, like whoever their ranked teams are,

1365
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: if they take care of business and this year they

1366
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: went to Tech, does text A and M go to

1367
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: Notre Dame next year they do? So it's like you

1368
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: win that game. I mean, what's A and M going

1369
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: to be ranked coming into the season next year top

1370
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: fifteen team? I'm sure? So are you that game? Again.

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Speaker 1: So I just think that I think there's gonna be

1372
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: a lot less energy though for whoever quote unquote gets

1373
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 1: left out because we used to it used to be

1374
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: a big deal. Like you could argue Florida State last

1375
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: year even though I think they made the right decision

1376
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: because their quarterback, we're all injured. I do get if

1377
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: you were like a Florida State fan or in the program,

1378
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,600
Speaker 1: you're like, what are you kidding me? Right, that's it.

1379
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 1: But there was four spots this year. It's like they're

1380
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: twelve guys. There were twelve. So it's like, let's say

1381
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: Ole Miss gets left out. It's like, well, didn't you

1382
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: lose to Kentucky, Like that's your own fault.

1383
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and LSU, which doesn't look as impressive right now.

1384
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: So that was awful loss, especially they were up in

1385
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: that game. Okay, Jackson, I appreciate you. Go grizz. We'll

1386
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Buddy.

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Speaker 3: The volume