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Speaker 2: Hey, let's do it live on a first Friday edition

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Speaker 2: The pens are out, the felt tips boards are being done.

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Speaker 3: You're good, Oh baby, let's go game week. Good to

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Speaker 3: be back in here.

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Speaker 4: It's not where. We're not mid season form yet, but

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Speaker 4: we're gonna get there.

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Speaker 2: We'll get there.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get there.

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Speaker 2: We'll get there. We shouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: It's not mid season, no, but you know, you want

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Speaker 4: to hit the ground.

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Speaker 3: You want to hit the ground running a week one,

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Speaker 3: but week one, you want to be playing at a

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Speaker 3: high levels.

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Speaker 2: Is an important week. It's a critical week. Yeah, guys,

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Speaker 2: back in the bill, we did get some good news.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into this right away. Denzel Ward was at practice,

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Speaker 2: so that's enormous news from a Brown's perspective, were hopeful

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Speaker 2: that that would be the case yesterday on the program.

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Speaker 2: It is the case. So that is a big, big

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Speaker 2: bonus right there. And now let's go to the podium

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Speaker 2: and here's coach Tavanski to do.

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Speaker 5: It between now and Sunday at one o'clock. But it's

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Speaker 5: certainly excited about the opportunity. You know, we've got a

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Speaker 5: great football team coming to our place. Excited to be

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Speaker 5: at our place. I don't think I've been down there

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Speaker 5: for an opener just yet. This my first one. We've

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Speaker 5: been on the road the last few years, so this

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Speaker 5: is great to get in front of our fans in

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Speaker 5: week one. We're looking forward to that. And then, like

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Speaker 5: I mentioned, really really really good football team. It's some

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Speaker 5: great players, some great coaches. I have a ton of

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Speaker 5: respect for Zach and all his coaches and what they

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Speaker 5: do there.

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Speaker 6: So we'll have our handsfull.

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Speaker 5: As you know, it's a really good football team offense, defense,

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Speaker 5: and special teams. Obviously, defensively they do a lot. I

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Speaker 5: think Lou does an awesome job making life hard on

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Speaker 5: an offense and does a nice job of mixing coverage

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Speaker 5: and front and you name it, so good players at

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Speaker 5: really every level of the defense offensively, a great quarterback

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Speaker 5: with some very very very good skill guys that everybody

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Speaker 5: knows can be dangerous when they get the ball in

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Speaker 5: their hands. Uh, IRV Smith I was with their their

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Speaker 5: tight end. I know first year for IRV, some new

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Speaker 5: players on the offensive line, brought on some really good

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Speaker 5: players on the offensive line, so uh, I know they

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Speaker 5: fit well into what they're doing in the special teams.

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Speaker 5: Coach Simmons always does a really nice job having a

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Speaker 5: sound attack with some again very good football players. So

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Speaker 5: we know what's at stake, we know the challenge in

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Speaker 5: front of us, and now the focus really goes to

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Speaker 5: Wednesday and getting our work done here on Wednesday. But

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Speaker 5: with that, I'll take any questions.

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Speaker 7: What do you need to over the next couple of

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Speaker 7: days as he progresses through the protocol for.

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Speaker 8: You for him to be clear.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like you said, Chris progressed through the protocol. It's

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Speaker 5: as simple as that. Really, make sure that he hits

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Speaker 5: all the benchmarks and then we'll go from there.

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Speaker 6: It's part of it. But last first, it's part of it.

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Speaker 6: What do you think is approaches we want?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we've you guys, we've talked about Deshaan

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Speaker 5: a lot since the spring.

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Speaker 6: I don't think his mindset has changed one bit.

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Speaker 5: He's a locked in football player, I think, eager to

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Speaker 5: get out there on the field and get to work.

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Speaker 6: But he's the same guy who was when we started

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Speaker 9: Have you ever had to talk to Sean about not

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Speaker 9: putting too much pressure on himself.

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Speaker 8: And trying to do too much?

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Speaker 5: As you guys, I think you talked to the quarterback

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Speaker 5: in particular, about not doing too much in a given

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Speaker 5: to take care of yourself and those type of things.

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Speaker 5: But he's played a lot of football in his career.

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Speaker 5: He's played in a lot of big football games in

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Speaker 5: his career. So not something that I that I worry

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Speaker 5: about with DeShawn.

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Speaker 3: The numbers say he was throwing the ball away and

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Speaker 3: a whole a little bit longer last year.

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Speaker 10: How much does that have to do with the amount

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Speaker 10: of time he missed before them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Hard, hard to even go back to last year. I

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Speaker 6: I feel really confident in that we'll learn about.

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Speaker 11: Him given that only seeing the full install and everything

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Speaker 11: you've only seen in practice in some preseason.

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Speaker 6: Southers, what's it? What's one more time? You know how

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Speaker 6: much has been made of the rust?

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Speaker 3: How can you know how much of that has come

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Speaker 10: A full game yet?

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Speaker 6: Have to tune in? I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 12: The Bengals went out and paid the most money they

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Speaker 12: ever paid for a free agent and getting Orlando Brown,

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Speaker 12: Miles Miles has torn them up.

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Speaker 6: What do you see now?

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's a good offensive line, Tony. I think

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Speaker 5: Orlando Brown is a really good player. As you know,

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Speaker 5: he's he's really big, so he's a challenge to pass rush.

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Speaker 6: Really, their whole their offensive attack is the challenge.

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Speaker 5: I think they do a really nice job schematically in

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Speaker 5: Obviously we know the quarterback can make every throw, can

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Speaker 5: make plays on schedule, off schedule, you name it. But uh,

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Speaker 5: just it's a very impressive offensive attack, just in total.

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Speaker 2: Offensive attack, you three headed monster.

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Speaker 11: They got the receiver Chase Stains a boy. So much

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Speaker 11: has been a talking a lot of options for defense, yea.

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Speaker 8: To have to face this week.

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Speaker 2: Want its just your thoughts on trying.

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Speaker 11: To slow them down.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a challenge.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't matter if it's Week one or Week seventeen. It's

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know, Jim and the defensive staff along with the

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Speaker 5: players understand that, uh this, you're gonna go up against

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Speaker 5: really good offenses in this league. You're gonna go up

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Speaker 11: Think to Sean, I'm gonna ask you about Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 6: It's his I don't want to give away you could

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Speaker 9: Secrets, but it's his role changing, uh with with Deshaun

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you change Nick Chubb's role.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, there's things that we'll do as an offense that

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Speaker 5: a little bit in your running pass games. So I

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Speaker 5: think that may take place. But Nick is certainly still

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Speaker 5: a very big part of our offense.

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Speaker 3: But what separates him that puts him in that tier quarterback.

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Speaker 6: That's just special.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a good football player, you know, just the

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Speaker 5: going back to his coming out of college and playing

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Speaker 5: in big games, playing big and big games. Extremely accurate,

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Speaker 5: very athletic, probably more athletic than than some people think.

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Speaker 5: He can really make plays with his feet, can make

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Speaker 5: all the throws again, and I give him credit.

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Speaker 6: I give their coaches credit.

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Speaker 5: They've done a nice job and their attack and what

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Speaker 5: they and what they do makes life hard on the defense.

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Speaker 6: They do a good job.

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Speaker 2: Are rounds and against the team.

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Speaker 6: What do you make.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you know this, Tony. I mean, every

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Speaker 5: year stands on its own merit, Every game stands on

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Speaker 5: its own merit. So anything that's happened before, good, bad,

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Speaker 5: indifferent really doesn't affect Sunday at one.

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Speaker 6: Safety's in general in his building. Yeah, it's it's a

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Speaker 6: good group in there.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: You talk about one talk about Rodney bringing some pros.

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Speaker 5: Guys that have been there, have been played in big games.

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Speaker 5: I think you've seen one in practice ending games make

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Speaker 5: plays on the football. I think he does. He has

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Speaker 5: very very good ball skills. But it's when you have

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Speaker 5: guys that have played in big games. I do think

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Speaker 5: that gives your entire group a boost. I think your

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Speaker 5: entire group can lean on that experience throughout this and

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Speaker 5: not just week one of me, throughout the season.

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Speaker 2: We uh spoke to sew today and he said he

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Speaker 6: Be even better than he was in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: Have you seen that out of him in this offseason

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Speaker 5: and you think you can get back to, you know,

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Speaker 5: at VP type of play.

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Speaker 6: We've talked about this, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I hope every player and every coach is trying to

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Speaker 5: be a better version of their past. And and that's

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Speaker 5: certainly for Deshaun, that's for everybody, that's for myself. We

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Speaker 5: can't ever rest on our laurels or try to be

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Speaker 5: something from the past week. It's twenty twenty three. So

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Speaker 5: that's certainly a focus for him and for all of us,

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Speaker 5: you know, and that's just a message for this team.

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Speaker 5: Just you have to constantly get better every single day.

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Speaker 2: Ready, you guys limited him at all, Just get.

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Speaker 6: Any head and coming out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see if it gets through this week. He's

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Speaker 5: responded with everything that we've given him. Uh So we'll

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Speaker 5: have a plan going into these games. But really it's

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Speaker 5: based on how he's doing, how he's feeling, that type

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Speaker 9: I mean just the fact those injuries that they went

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Speaker 9: they are able to, you know, come out here and

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Speaker 5: First week at Yeah, I think you see that across

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Speaker 5: the league, guys coming back from injury. They have a

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Speaker 5: corner coming back from injury, a similar injury. So these

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Speaker 5: guys work really hard. I think you have to. It's

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Speaker 5: a testament to their hard work. It's you know, credit

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Speaker 5: to the medical staffs in these cases as well as

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Speaker 5: getting your guys ready to roll. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 5: likes to get hurt in this league, but the guys

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Speaker 5: that respond and and attack their rehab and are out

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Speaker 5: there with their team in week one is always impressive

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Speaker 5: for me to see.

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Speaker 6: The new cornerback and to participate in the games.

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Speaker 5: Potentially he's coming along nicely. He did a nice job

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Speaker 5: really last week and this week and understanding what we

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, kick he will. Yes.

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Speaker 13: Most curious about heading into the game.

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Speaker 2: Everything is so new.

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Speaker 13: Is there a certain aspect of the offense of the

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Speaker 5: There's really not specifically, Mary Kay. I think again, we

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Speaker 5: the course of the season. It really speaks to the

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Speaker 13: Fansive, Do you have to kind of think about that

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Speaker 5: About that, Mary Kay, and and that ultimately it's our jobs.

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Speaker 6: You have to be reacting.

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Speaker 5: Hopkins historically has not a great success from fifty and

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Speaker 6: Does that affect how you.

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Speaker 10: Approach that.

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Speaker 5: I think it's every player, jeff in what they're capable

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Speaker 10: Obviously regular game, but mix it in that running game

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Speaker 5: We'll see if that changes considerably what they do, or

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Speaker 14: Yes, about concussions, but soft tissue injuries are the main

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Speaker 6: And things like that. Yeah, have you tried that nordboard time?

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Speaker 5: And what you're trying to do constantly is get ready

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen the number. I mean, we always do

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Speaker 6: I haven't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know exactly where we are just yet. The

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Speaker 6: Do you do you see that when he goes up against.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think MJ had a good rookie season for US.

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Speaker 6: That's just part of the business.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see in this game how many opportunities he gets.

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Speaker 5: But he's somebody that doesn't shy away from competition, and

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Speaker 2: The two years felt.

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Speaker 14: He seemed to be a very well larked player here

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Speaker 2: Did he have an invitation to come.

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Speaker 13: Back and very surprised.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I can't get into all the specifics of that obviously

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Speaker 2: more on that. Well, you heard from coach most noteworthy

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Speaker 2: of that, good to hear, good one full go. So

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Nopes, that is you go, Yes, it indeed it is.

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Speaker 3: And that and obviously Denzel getting in the mix. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of back to where we are from

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Speaker 3: Right, and his speed, regardless of how many reps you've

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Speaker 4: They need to come out.

446
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Speaker 3: We have had everybody working together on both sides of

447
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Speaker 3: the ball. We have been very lucky that our camp

448
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: was not marred by injuries to our starves then as

449
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 3: it missed the most time in camp were Jalen Dardin,

450
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Speaker 3: who's on a practice squad with us now, Matthew Adams,

451
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 3: who's a special teams guy, but who will you know

452
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 3: he'll play some special teams for us, I'm sure in

453
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Speaker 3: this opener, but that's really it. Yeah, I mean, you

454
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: did not have people miss significant amounts of time, So

455
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 3: they've all been out there together.

456
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Speaker 4: They've been able to.

457
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Speaker 3: Communicate together, they've been able to go through all of

458
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Speaker 3: these drills you had. You know the Sharpen week where

459
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: it was ones against ones all week, and both sides

460
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Speaker 3: I think looked very good and had opportunities to make

461
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 3: plays and did and so yeah, you've got to come

462
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: out of here hit the ground running. This is a

463
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 3: very good team. It's a team that is used to

464
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 3: being a team of consequence, certainly in the National Football League.

465
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: And last two years, like we said, Super Bowl, AFC Championship,

466
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Speaker 3: they've been the AFC Championship game two years in a row.

467
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Speaker 2: A lot of trendy pick this year to win it all.

468
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 2: There's a lot feels a lot like the Bills, how

469
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Speaker 2: the Bills were a year ago. Everyone's kind of riding them.

470
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Speaker 2: I've seen several that had them. If these guys bringing

471
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Speaker 2: it home, it.

472
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Speaker 4: Feels to me like people are just overlooking their roster.

473
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Speaker 2: I think they're I think if you amend that to

474
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Speaker 2: overlooking the back end of their defense, I think I

475
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: think what people see as they see that the money positions,

476
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Speaker 2: it's it's quarterback receiver d end.

477
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Speaker 4: But they're the end. It's good.

478
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Speaker 2: It's top half.

479
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Sam Hubbard and Hendrickson combined for fewer sacks

480
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Speaker 3: than Miles.

481
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Speaker 2: Head correct, but they they they're fine. They're fine. They're

482
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Speaker 2: they're a little more than that. They're top top half

483
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Speaker 2: of the league.

484
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Speaker 4: Sure, but they're not like that's it. They're not like

485
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Speaker 4: the Eagles or the Niners.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, dude, like played in the Super

487
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Speaker 2: Bowl with the ball to go win it, should won it.

488
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Speaker 2: In the AFC Championship game with the ball to go

489
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Speaker 2: win it, quarterback, did they that guilt deal get done today?

490
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Speaker 2: Did they have that?

491
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Speaker 8: No? Not yet.

492
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Speaker 2: There was a lot of talking done or by because

493
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: he hasn't had his availability yet. Burrow hasn't or he

494
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 2: hadn't when I left this afternoon. But there was thinking

495
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: that he's going to be the highest paid player in

496
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Speaker 2: the league, at least for a short term once this

497
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: deal is done. And it's just a belief in him

498
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: and all the receivers and and all of that. I mean,

499
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: they're very good at the glamour positions and they've done it.

500
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,239
Speaker 2: They've been clutch so good clutch kicker, yeah, so they

501
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: they check those boxes and it's but for us, it's

502
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 2: it's a it's a monster game, man, because this is

503
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: we all know the pressure of all of this, and

504
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: I even sense it in coaches availability like he's he's

505
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 2: he's notoriously vague anyway, but even more so. And then

506
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Speaker 2: you know, like kind of getting annoyed with all the

507
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: Deshaun stuff. But look, I'm sure the people down there

508
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Speaker 2: asking those questions are tired of writing about it. We've

509
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: had to talk about it. Every conversation we've had this

510
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: entire offseason has been all based on the caveat of Deshaun.

511
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 2: Every conversation that has had nationally about this team, and

512
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: many of them just haven't been had quite frankly, We've

513
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: talked about that, like they just choose not to talk

514
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: about us. It just comes down to if Deshawn's great,

515
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 2: everything else checks so and the reality is is there's

516
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Speaker 2: nothing that he can say down there. There's nothing that

517
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: you and I can say up here right now that's

518
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: going to be a warm blanket on anybody who has

519
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: doubts about what Deshaun Watson can be. Watch He's going

520
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: to show up on Sunday and then we'll see that's it.

521
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Speaker 2: So that's why I think from our standpoint, this is

522
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: a notori This is a nervy fan base anyway, and

523
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 2: probably rightfully so, based on the last couple of decades.

524
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you're not going to feel

525
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: good about things until you see him play well Sunday.

526
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Speaker 2: That's really it. And I go back to a presser

527
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: he had, I mean, this was early in camp where

528
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: he said we'll see in September. That's just kind of

529
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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, people are acting like he's one of the

531
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Speaker 3: worst quarterbacks in the league. I mean, to me, that's

532
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: just lunacy.

533
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Speaker 2: People are acting like some people we talked about this yesterday,

534
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Speaker 2: are are thinking that what you got last year is

535
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Speaker 2: what he is. Even so that's.

536
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Speaker 3: We're a better team than we were at that point

537
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Speaker 3: last year. And he's still went three and three. No, no, no,

538
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: what I'm including a game. But it all comes down

539
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: to garbage. That part of it, and that's the part

540
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: that people are hanging to is that the critics of

541
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: Deshaun are saying that it's more likely now and I

542
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: don't again, this is not what I think. I think

543
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Speaker 3: it's far more likely that he is what he was

544
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: two years ago, or rather than what he was in

545
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Speaker 3: six games. But the people are hanging onto the six

546
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: games and they can't let it go. And anybody that

547
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Speaker 3: has us ranked twenty second in a power ranking or

548
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Speaker 3: him in a bottom half of the league at quarterback.

549
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Speaker 4: But I feel like they didn't.

550
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Speaker 2: Well predicated on well, no, they just look at the

551
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 2: stats and.

552
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Speaker 3: Even so you would say, okay, well he got better

553
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 3: as it went on. Five touchdowns and to two interceptions

554
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: in his last six quarters plus a running touch, so

555
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 3: six total touchdowns in his last six quarters.

556
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Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, it's fine.

557
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: And as I've talked to de Sean about it a

558
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: bunch of times, like people saying, people saying what they're

559
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 3: gonna say, He's even sick of It's like people are

560
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: gonna say what they're gonna say. The reality is going

561
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: to be what happens out there on the field over

562
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: the course of seventeen games. I mean, you got people

563
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: like if Deshaun Watson is better than average, better than

564
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: an average quarterback in the NFL, we're gonna be a

565
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Speaker 3: playoff team. If John Watson is elite back to being

566
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Speaker 3: like a top five quarterback in the league, we have

567
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Speaker 3: a chance when Super Bowl. I mean, it's all there.

568
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 3: I think that people are discounting the quality of this

569
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Speaker 3: roster overall in a major, major way, and it's fine,

570
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: Like let people doubt. It doesn't matter because when people

571
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 3: are saying, oh, you guys are gonna go win Super.

572
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: Bowl, that doesn't matter either. All that matters is what happens.

573
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Speaker 3: And that's what I've said for this season all along,

574
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 3: Like this is not it's we talk about it. It's

575
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: our jobs to talk about this football team for ten

576
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: hours a week, fifty two weeks a year. But like,

577
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Speaker 3: this is a team that's gonna be on what it does.

578
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 3: I don't need to sugarcoat anything.

579
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Speaker 4: Our roster.

580
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Speaker 3: I'm going through our boards right now. Our roster top

581
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Speaker 3: to bottom is better than the Bengals roster. Yea, and

582
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 3: it's not even particularly close. Now They've got Joe Burrow,

583
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Speaker 3: they've got Jamar Chase, they have you know, if there

584
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: were probably if you were to disband these rosters and

585
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: draft these teams, like just from these two teams, the first.

586
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Speaker 4: Two picks are probably Burrow and Jamar.

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Speaker 3: Chase, and then you've got Miles you know thou those

588
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: would be the consensus up three. But you're gonna draft

589
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: a lot more Browns early on in that then you're

590
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: gonna draft Bengals. Yeah, like no doubt. Yeah, So this

591
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: team's got it all. They've got to go do it.

592
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: They've got to go do it.

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Speaker 2: To answer your question, and it's I know that you

594
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: asked it rhetorically, but so the audience understands and you

595
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: don't have to like it or not. But the reality

596
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: is people don't watch every game. You know, they can't

597
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: because there's a there's one hundred games that you're trying

598
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: to pay attention to.

599
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: Had plenty of time this offseason watch six games and

600
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Speaker 3: Sean Watson they're going to comment on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't have to because you don't have to.

602
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that homework. You don't need

603
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: to be you don't need to have that. You should,

604
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: you should, you should, but you don't need to and

605
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: all that you're gonna I guarantee you. This is what

606
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: probably eighty percent of the people who are at who

607
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: believe whatever they want to believe about Watson. They see

608
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: fifty eight point two, they see seven touchdowns, five picks.

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00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: That's what they see. Yeah, so they look at that

610
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: and they go, well, this maybe this is what he is.

611
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: They don't see seventy point two, forty eight, twenty three,

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Speaker 2: thirty three and seven or the previous year sixty seven,

613
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Speaker 2: thirty eight to fifty two, twenty six and twelve, or

614
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: the previous year sixty eight point three forty one sixty five,

615
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: twenty six and nine. They're not looking at that. They're

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Speaker 2: looking at the last thing. And it's to me it's

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00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: far more likely that he will be what he was

618
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: than what he was for six games where he was

619
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Speaker 2: gone for three months, paratrooped in to run an offense

620
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Speaker 2: that wasn't even catered to his abilities and rather tried

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Speaker 2: to do so on the fly. Yes, and hadn't played

622
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Speaker 2: football in eighteen months. So to me, it's far more

623
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Speaker 2: likely he is what he was at age twenty five

624
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Speaker 2: than what he was in the sample size at age

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. You'll hear from Watson at two o'clock.

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Speaker 4: We've seen it. I've seen it in practice, I know.

627
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen it.

628
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: We know that's hollow. We got to see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, see in games, but I mean he looks different,

630
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: completely different than he did a year ago in practice.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not even it's not even a question.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna right.

633
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: You got to go out there and like I say, again,

634
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 3: this team has got to go do it.

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Speaker 4: You can have.

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Speaker 3: You know you've got on your offense alone. You've got

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Speaker 3: five guys who have been to multiple Pro Bowls, five

638
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Speaker 3: of them on your offense alone. Amari's been to four,

639
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Speaker 3: Deshaun's been to three, Teller's been to two, Antonio has

640
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Speaker 3: been to five. Nick Chubb's been to four. That's just

641
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Speaker 3: on your offense. Like this team is incredibly talented, you's

642
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Speaker 3: gotta go.

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Speaker 2: They went yeah, all got Joe Burrow and then landed them. Yeah.

662
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: Bengals won the last meeting on December eleventh and Cincinnat

663
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: And now we turn it over for the first time

664
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: this year to Doc Dizzy and his sports.

665
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: Well it's Wednesday, it's early, so we're not full. I've

666
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: gotten some work on their defense already though. But offensively, look,

667
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: this is this is the team of Joe Burrow.

668
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: Bottom line, that's what they are.

669
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 3: This is a team that can throw the football as

670
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: well as any team in the National Football League, full

671
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: stop boom, and we know that that is a big

672
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: part of what the NFL is. In the year twenty

673
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: twenty two, Borough last year went to his first Pro Bowl.

674
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: Sixty eight percent completions, four four hundred and seventy five yards,

675
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: thirty five touchdowns, twelve interceptions and a quarterback rating of

676
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: one hundred point eight. He was sacked forty one times.

677
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: They made some moves on their offensive line, the biggest

678
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: being bringing in four time Pro Bowler left tackle Orlando

679
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: Brown Junior, who was previously with the Kansas City Chiefs,

680
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. When it comes

681
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: to them running the football, it's going to be the

682
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon show. Mixing last year eight hundred and fourteen yards,

683
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: seven touchdowns, but only three point nine per carry. He

684
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: also added sixty catches for four hundred and forty one yards.

685
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: Mixon feels a little bit like he's on the decline.

686
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: There was talk about moving him out. They had to

687
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: restructure his contract. He took a pay cut to stay.

688
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: Samaji p Ryan has gone p run scored against He

689
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: scored against us last year, scored six touchdowns for them.

690
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: Was very effective. So they've got Chase Brown, the rookie

691
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: out of Illinois. They've got Chris Evans, but I think

692
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot of Joe Mixon at running

693
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: back for them this year. And then you get to

694
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: their receiving core, and it's the best receist. It's the

695
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: best trio in the NFL. Jamar Chase last year in

696
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: only twelve games eighty seven, one, forty six and nine.

697
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: T Higgins had seventy four one, twenty nine and seven,

698
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: and Tyler Boyd had fifty eight seven, sixty two and five.

699
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: So they're good. They're gonna throw the ball, they're gonna

700
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: be effective. Their new tight end is IRB. Smith Junior,

701
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: who's formerly of the Minnesota Vikings. He replaces Hayden Hurst.

702
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: Hurst last year fifty two catches, four hundred, fourteen yards

703
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: and two touchdowns.

704
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: So it's an offense that can throw it. They have

705
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: not been great running it of late.

706
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: But Mixon is still a very talented dual threat back

707
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: and he's had some pretty good games against the Browns

708
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: in the past.

709
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: Brown's the kid out of Illinois, right, Chase Brown, Chase Brown. Yeah,

710
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: he's a he's a hammer, yeahm or kid. So that

711
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: so p Ryan was more of a change of pace.

712
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: So I wonder then what they will do in a

713
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: in a pass friendly. I suppose mixing and mixing.

714
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: Chris Evans can catch it a little bit. The young guy,

715
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: the guy out of Michigan, and they have Travion Williams

716
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: on their roster as well. Travion Williams last year very

717
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: limited action for them, So we'll see that's kind of

718
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: one of the unknowns with p Terry leaving, pe Terran

719
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: leaving and pe Ran had ninety five carry surt in

720
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: ninety four yards two touchdowns. He also caught thirty eight

721
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 3: balls for two eighty seven and four touchdowns.

722
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: So Peter Ryan was a factor.

723
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: That's production that we'll have to be replaced and we'll

724
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 3: see where that comes from.

725
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: Ultimately.

726
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: The big moves, as we mentioned on the line bringing

727
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: in Orlando Brown Junior, that was that was monstrous for them,

728
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: and so we'll see, you know, ultimately, if this line

729
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: can be beat. I mean, you look at one stat

730
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: alone and this isn't obviously the only thing that matters,

731
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: but you look at one stat alone for the Browns

732
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow, and the Brown sacked.

733
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow twice.

734
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: He loses if the Brown's only sacking once, So are

735
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: a few times that's only happened once.

736
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 8: He's won.

737
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: So it's a team that's running back four fifths.

738
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 6: Of that line.

739
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: So Jonah moved a left Jonah's moved to the right

740
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: tackle and he struggled.

741
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: Last year, Big Jonah Williams.

742
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: He gave twelve sacks, he gave up forty three pressures,

743
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: like struggled.

744
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: It was one of the thing. He's one of the

745
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: that's one of the things that they are very loyal

746
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: to their drafted guys and they will ride it a

747
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: long time. And he's probably a recent good example of that.

748
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: They did that with Billy Price, a former Buckeye center

749
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: as well, where they've kept trying to make that work. Yeah,

750
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: and they finally just couldn't. On the defense, it's pretty

751
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: good upfront and then it gets quite and the front

752
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: line linebackers, but some questions beyond that.

753
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got up front, you got Trey Hendrickson,

754
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: two time Pro bowler at one end, he's got He

755
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: had last year eight sacks, sixty two pressures, but forty

756
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: two sacks for his career three to five and a

757
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: half the last three seasons. So last year was a

758
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 3: down year in terms of sacks, but his pressures were

759
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: still elite over sixty. The other side, Sam Hubbard, the

760
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: team captain, he had six and a half sacks last year.

761
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: He had one and a half sacks in the two

762
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: games against the Browns hundreds and only had a half

763
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: for his career thirty and a half sacks for Sam Hubbard,

764
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: so they are good. Trey Hendrickson as obviously, it would

765
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: be an upper echelon pass rusher in the middle to

766
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: very solid rather unspectacular, but solid defensive tackles DJ Reider

767
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: and BJ Hill. Last year, BJ Hill three sacks, thirty

768
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: four pressures, third on the team, so very disruptive inside.

769
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 3: In his eighty game career he has sixteen sacks. DJ

770
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: Reader on the other side, not much of a sack guy,

771
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: but is a tough man to move in the middle.

772
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: Six three, three hundred and thirty five pounds. First career

773
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: eight sacks but twenty one tackles for loss. He's just

774
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: he's a load and he's difficult to run against. One

775
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: of the better run defending defensive tackles in the NFL,

776
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: so he got up front kind of behind them. Joseph

777
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: Osi had three and a half sacks last year. We'll

778
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: see if he's able to go battling an ankle injury.

779
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: Cam Sample had two sacks form last year. Then they

780
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: used their first round pick on Miles Murphy out of Clemson,

781
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 3: who had seventeen and a half sacks, thirty seven tackles

782
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 3: for loss at Clemson, was a two times second team

783
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: All acc performed, but have not heard much about him

784
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: and trying to like research him, Like nothing coming out

785
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: of camp about Miles Murphy.

786
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: You had asked me in the break about him, and

787
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: I have to talk about these guys a little bit

788
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: on what I do in the morning, and I've talked

789
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: about them a lot, and we've talked to a lot

790
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 2: of people down there and I've never even heard it.

791
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: We have not His name has not come up. These

792
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: are first round, first round pick, but they did that

793
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: with Hill. They kind of have a red shirt almost approach,

794
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: which is crazy, but I know, a nice luxury to have,

795
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: nice nice if you can do it right. So that's

796
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: where up front.

797
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: Linebackers not deep, but their starters are both very good.

798
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: Jermaine Pratt last year career high ninety nine tackles, ten passes, defense,

799
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: two innerces and a sack. Next hime is Logan Wilson,

800
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: who's just signed a four year extension that'll keep him

801
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: with the Bengals through twenty twenty seven. He had a

802
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: team high one hundred and twenty three tackles, which is

803
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: the most by a Bengal since Vontez Berfect had like

804
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy tackles in twenty thirteen.

805
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: Jeez, here's it.

806
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 6: He was.

807
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: I remember him in the draft though.

808
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: It was a tough, tough ombre.

809
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: I remember, yes, it was, And I remember Logan Wilson

810
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: in the draft process.

811
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

812
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 8: We liked that way, yo.

813
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because he's good in coverage.

814
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: Last year, had one hundred and twenty three tackles, three

815
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 3: tackles for lost two and a half sex, only one interception,

816
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: four passes defense for his career though two hundred and

817
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: fifty six tackles in three seasons, seven picks, seven picks.

818
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: Those are the most by any linebacker in the NFL

819
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: since he came to the league in twenty twenty. Behind

820
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: them nothing a King Davis Gaither, you know, in his

821
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: entering his four season as eighty nine tackles for his career.

822
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: Marcus Bailey in forty three games has fifty tackles for

823
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: his career. Joe Bachi for his career has thirty three tackles.

824
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: Like the three guys behind them play special teams and

825
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 3: Davis Gaither, you'll recall as the guy who came in

826
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: at that goal line and James Hudson came in literally

827
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: obliterated him.

828
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: So not deep.

829
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: But the two starters are good, and then they live

830
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: in the nickel because they've got a very good one.

831
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: Mike Hilton named the team captain. He's gonna be there

832
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: nickel back. It's interesting, remember when he was when he

833
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: came to Cincinnati, talk about what a great blitzer he was.

834
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: He had nine sacks, nine and a half sacks.

835
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 3: In his career with Pittsburgh. He doesn't have a single

836
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 3: sack as a member of the Bengals, not one.

837
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: Two seasons, no sacks.

838
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: The two years before in twenty twenty, the year before

839
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 3: he had three with the Steelers in twenty twenty and

840
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, no sacks, but still good player. Last

841
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: year I had a pick, six passes, defense, good in coverage,

842
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: eighty six grading when targeted, and then on the outside corners.

843
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: I feel like their corner I feel like their entire

844
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: secondary is questionable. You got Chadobi, a woozier who I

845
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: like a lot, former second round pick of the Cowboys.

846
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: Last year in eight games, he had no picks, five passes, defense,

847
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: but a fifty eight rate went targeted very good. But

848
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: remember he pour his ACL against US. That was in

849
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: that game, Halloween game. Turis ACL out for the year.

850
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: This will be his first game back much less than

851
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: a year removed from that ten months remove, I mean

852
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: that was Halloween. Yeah, so how is he in his

853
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: first game action? Is there any rust? Does he trust

854
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: his body? So that's a question on one side. The other side,

855
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: you've got Cam Taylor Britt their second round pick last year.

856
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: In ten games, he made nine starts, no picks, six

857
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: passes defense when he was targeted, sixty one percent completions

858
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 3: one hundred and nine rating, and in fact, in the

859
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: two games against US, we targeted him eleven times, we

860
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: had ten completions for one hundred and fifty four yards,

861
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: so we had success against him. He's their other starter.

862
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 3: Backing them up. You've got a seventh round pick, DJ

863
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 3: Ivy from the U. You've got DJ Turner, a couple

864
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 3: of DJs, their second round pick this year for Michigan,

865
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: who ran a four two six forty, was a second

866
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: team All Big Ten one interception last year. You've got

867
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: Alan George, who's practice squad guy for most of the year.

868
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: And that's it.

869
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: Very thin and very experience, very unproven.

870
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then let's go to the safety room. Safeties

871
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: here are Here are the five safeties on their roster.

872
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: Dax Hill, last year's first round pick, thirty first overall

873
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: in fifteen games, no picks, no passes, defense, twelve tackles,

874
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: and give one hundred and thirty five rating when targeted

875
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: and coverage. This is his for Shirt Red schert first

876
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: year as a starter, and he's replacing Jesse Bates who's

877
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 3: crazy been elite. The other safety was a free agent

878
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: signing Nick Scott in his fifth season out of Penn State.

879
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: He was a seventh round pick of the Rams in

880
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. Last year is the first year he ever started.

881
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: Sixteen games, two interceptions, five passes, defense, eighty three tackles,

882
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: two forced fumbles. He had the worst PFF coverage grade

883
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 3: on the Rams in twenty twenty two and was bottom

884
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: ten among all safeties in coverage grade.

885
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: It was in the forties. This he's a only a

886
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: one year starter.

887
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: He had one hundred and six rating allowed when he

888
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: was in coverage last year, and he's replacing Von Bell

889
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: who tied with Baits they both had four interception show

890
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: they had eight picks from their two starting safeties a

891
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: year ago. They bring in two guys who have no

892
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: career interceptions or two career Interceptions'm sorry, Scott and Dax Hill.

893
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: Behind them, you have their third round pick, Jordan Battle

894
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: out of Alabama. You've got Michael Thomas who's just a

895
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: special teams player. And you have Tyson Anderson, a fifth

896
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: round pick out of Toledo last year who did not

897
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: play a snap in twenty twenty two.

898
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. So they're betting big.

899
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: They're being big on saying one hundred percent healthy and

900
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: that Dax Hill Cam Taylor Britt take major steps forward,

901
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: that chadobia O Woozie comes back from injury and is

902
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: who he was before, and that Nick Scott gets significantly

903
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: better than what he was a year ago.

904
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: It's pretty wild when you the back end of this,

905
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: the secondary especially.

906
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: Is it kind of like blew my mind when I

907
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: was going through it.

908
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: And listen, if I'm the Browns, that's what I'm attacking,

909
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: Like I am attacking these guys, I'm running you know

910
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: a lot of those kind of you know, the combination

911
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: routes where you run a dig to try to get

912
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: the safety come up and then put a post in

913
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: behind them where you're running and making them communicate. Two

914
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 3: guys who come in and maybe they break out or

915
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: they cross, they run deep crosses. I'm doing everything like

916
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: to try to confuse these guys who have not played

917
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: a snap in an NFL game together yet.

918
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: It's an incredible bet on lou An Aromo's defense. I

919
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: think he's really good in his They believe that that's it.

920
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: They just believe that he can get guys right, But

921
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: it's it's then.

922
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: Last year they were the number seven rush defense. They

923
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: were twenty third against the pass, twenty third against the pass,

924
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: sixteenth in total defense, but fifth in points per game.

925
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: They were twenty ninth in terms of sacks. They only

926
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: had thirty on the season. They were very on third downs.

927
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: They were forty percent, which was twentieth in the league.

928
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: Fourth down they were very good. Fourth in league. Red

929
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: zone they were tied for ninth in the league. So

930
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: they were they got stingy in the red zone. That's

931
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: that's really what they did. And then the turnover margin,

932
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: they were plus six. You win the turnover margin, that's

933
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 3: sixth in the NFL. That covers up a lot.

934
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: Yep.

935
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: So the question is going to be can this back

936
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: end hold up for them? Because while it is a

937
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: good front, it's not like a jail break to.

938
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: The quarterback front. No, no, it's not Philly.

939
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: No, it's not even what we should beat to be

940
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: perfectly honest. But their offense and listen, Joe Burrow, Jamar

941
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Chase t Higgins. That covers a lot does that's a

942
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 3: great eraser.

943
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: We beat them here on Halloween. They didn't lose again

944
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: until the AFC Championship game.

945
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: It's if you were talking to me with this team

946
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: and we said everything that we said right there, and

947
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: it was Bates and Von bell right there. That feels like, Okay,

948
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: you filled questions at corner I think are valid questions

949
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: with a woozy coming off the injury, and you know

950
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: Taylor Britt and how do he progresses.

951
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 4: In year two?

952
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: But you put those you feel like you have that

953
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 3: comfortable shell on the back end with a guy who

954
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: can play close to the line scrimmage and Von Bells

955
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: and you have Bates because the goods A good center

956
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: fielder cleans a lot of things up and inexperienced centerfielder

957
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: or one who does who makes some mental mistakes, like

958
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: he's going to be thinking out there.

959
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: He has not played a lot of football in the NFL. No,

960
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: when you think that's.

961
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: When you can get run by or you can make

962
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: the wrong read or that's what the Browns that is

963
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: where if we are going to win this game, we're

964
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: gonna win it throwing the ball and getting on their

965
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: safeties and their corners. And obviously Nick Chub's going to

966
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 3: be Nick Chubb. But that's to me. You go through

967
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: the rest of this roster and you're like, okay, you

968
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 3: know Jonah Williams, like Zadarius.

969
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 4: Should that feels like a should clean up on that

970
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: and that's something we didn't have in the past.

971
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: No, because they can't.

972
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: Go double on that side.

973
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: Only maybe they'll leave Miles one on one th Orlando Brown,

974
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: or you put Miles on this side and Zadarius on

975
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: the other, or you put them on the same side,

976
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: put them against Kapa and Williams together. The Browns should

977
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: be able to get after this line. But Burrow is excellent.

978
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 3: We've done a good job. Though I was looking at

979
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: the last last three games against the Browns. Burrow's not

980
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: thrown for three hundred yards in any of them. He's

981
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 3: been under two hundred and fifty in each of the

982
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: last two four touchdowns, five picks, zero games with a

983
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 3: one hundred rating.

984
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: He's been sacked eleven times.

985
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: Up a Browns fan, maybe just in this heart of hearts,

986
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: it's still there, still there.

987
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 4: I mean, you know they've done.

988
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: It's one of you know, we've had some good teams

989
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, but like it's kind of

990
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: an anomaly of a from a scheduling standpoint that he

991
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: has success against everybody but us.

992
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: Well, and that's one of the things. If there was

993
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 3: one thing that Joe Woods did well, it was prepare

994
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: us to.

995
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 4: Play the Cincinnati Bengals.

996
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: So we hope Jim Schwartz obviously can continue that and

997
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: obviously a ton of belief in him as a defensive coordinator.

998
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: But it feels like we have a defense that is

999
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: built to stop a team like Joe Burrow and the Bengals.

1000
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: That's kind of what our defense is built to do, right,

1001
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: get after the quarterback and be able to cover good receivers.

1002
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think you can probably even take

1003
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: it a step further and say that everything that you've

1004
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: tried to do here in a roster standpoint in the

1005
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: last two seasons, two offseasons has been because of what

1006
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: happened in Cincinnati quickly with Burrow. They are in your division.

1007
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: You ask anybody in any part of the league, and

1008
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: you say, well, what's your number one goal? It's win

1009
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: the division because that means you get in the playoffs.

1010
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: For us to win the division consistently over the next decade,

1011
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: we've got to beat that kid down there on the

1012
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: Ohio River. That's the job. And so everything that's been done,

1013
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: whether it's the trade for Deshaun Watson because it just

1014
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: wasn't good enough the other way, it was never going

1015
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: to be. You had to be better, You had to

1016
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: be elite in the past. Game forced it, forced it

1017
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: because otherwise, if you look at what Baltimore is and

1018
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: you want to talk about I mean, you and I

1019
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: were talking about Air like overvalued. I think the Ravens

1020
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 2: are way overvalued. Even Pittsburgh coming to the end of Roethlisberger.

1021
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 2: It was the Borough emergence and the Cincinnati with Chase

1022
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: and the rest of it. It's like, wow, you got

1023
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: to have an answer for that because the job one's

1024
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: win the division. You can't take down Mahomes and the

1025
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 2: rest of it until you win your division. That's job one.

1026
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: And so much of what's happened here has been an

1027
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: anidote or an attempted antidote to that, and we've had

1028
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: success against them, so it has worked.

1029
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: Yes, we have, and we need to keep that success going.

1030
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: That is that is what the Bengals are. The team

1031
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: that you've got to go through.

1032
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 8: Now.

1033
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 3: We've beaten them here every time since eighteen nineteen, twenty

1034
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: twenty one, twenty two, five straight yep in our building.

1035
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: We need to make it six straight.

1036
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, gots to do it. One of the men that

1037
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: will be responsible for that is your quarterback. He is

1038
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,200
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Speaker 2: of the Men of the Hour on Sunday will be

1048
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 2: to Shaun Watson. We can't wait to see him play.

1049
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: He was available earlier today to meet with the media.

1050
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.

1051
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 15: Shaw, When you were, uh trying to decide what team

1052
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 15: who wanted to be traded to, how much of was

1053
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 15: having a selling point in his ideas for uh the

1054
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 15: offense and and ways to.

1055
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 6: To to make you a better colder.

1056
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 16: Uh it was huge, you know at that time, you know,

1057
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 16: coming in making that decision. Just now, I want to

1058
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 16: spend my offensive knowledge something different.

1059
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 6: Uh.

1060
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 16: I think all the teams that I was, you know,

1061
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 16: looking at had different offenses that I had in Houston.

1062
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1063
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 16: Uh, but Kevin, he came in and he was out

1064
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 16: of the all the teams that I visited with him

1065
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 16: and uh ab was the only ones that really pretty

1066
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 16: much talked about football and what they wanted to do

1067
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 16: and kind of incorporate me into the offense. And then

1068
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 16: you look at the skill guys that you know we're

1069
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 16: thinking about getting, you know, all the things, all the

1070
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 16: moves that we've been making before. It's something that they

1071
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 16: already you know told me. You know, going into that

1072
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 16: whole process. So, you know, I want to be a

1073
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 16: part of it. I want to be, uh, a part

1074
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 16: of Kevin and and what he's been building up here

1075
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 16: in Cleveland, and I think that we can be very successful.

1076
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 15: How was that evolved when you have been the back

1077
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 15: and forth trying to figure out what the best plays,

1078
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 15: the best offense for you?

1079
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: How has that evolved in the last.

1080
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 15: Eighteen months or so.

1081
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 16: Uh, it's growing. It's a growing process. It's a learning process.

1082
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 16: It's uh, we don't continue to grow throughout the season.

1083
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 16: You know, it's not finalized. I don't think it's ever finalized.

1084
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 16: If you talk to the great ones that play, you know,

1085
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 16: with their coach or their oc for a very long time,

1086
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 16: I think each and every year there's something that you

1087
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 16: can evolve and you can take your offense to another level. So, uh,

1088
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 16: it's been great, it's been fun. It's been very exciting,

1089
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 16: and you know, I think he's decided about you know,

1090
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 16: going into this week one, and I am too.

1091
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 7: As you look where where you're at right now and

1092
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 7: over the last months and a half, where do you

1093
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 7: feel like you've you've grown and progressed the.

1094
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 6: Most in in the time.

1095
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 16: I mean everything, just me as a player, me as

1096
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 16: a leader, me as a quarterback, the knowledge of the offense. Uh,

1097
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 16: what Kevin is thinking, what Avp is thinking, right, how

1098
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 16: we wanna attack different schemes on defense, and uh, you know,

1099
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 16: just everything you know. I'm I'm never satisfied with uh

1100
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 16: what I how it was a month ago. I'm never

1101
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 16: satisfied how it was a week ago. So it's just uh,

1102
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 16: continue to just grow and continue to learn and just

1103
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 16: be better each and every day.

1104
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 13: Just showing your terms of optimism and excitement for a

1105
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 13: season and hope for great big things to happen.

1106
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: How does this season when you compared to.

1107
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 16: Any other that you've gone into, Uh, I mean, honestly,

1108
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 16: it's very similar.

1109
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

1110
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 16: I think my time in Houston, we had some big,

1111
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 16: big uh you know s I say, big goals and

1112
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 16: and dreams that we wanted to do and and and

1113
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 16: I think people realize that we can compete with with

1114
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 16: some of the top teams because of the teams that

1115
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 16: we had in Houston. We had opportunities, but we didn't

1116
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 16: stay healthy a lot of times and a lot of

1117
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 16: moving parts, so you know it, of course it didn't

1118
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 16: go ourway. But I think this year's it's a fresh year,

1119
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 16: it's a new year, and it's a lot of uh

1120
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 16: newnesses offense and defense. So it's very exciting not just

1121
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 16: for the fans and in the media, but for ourselves

1122
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 16: to push.

1123
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 14: On the longest line, your season opener was a wave

1124
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 14: last year because of what transpired last season.

1125
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 16: Is just when you more to you, UH, every game

1126
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 16: means a lot to me. Uh, not just because I

1127
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 16: missed the first half of the season last year and

1128
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 16: came back into I think each and every game is

1129
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 16: the opportunity for myself to go out there and show

1130
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 16: who I am. And you know, I have a lot

1131
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 16: to prove, and I wanna go out there and prove it,

1132
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 16: not just for people in general, but just for myself

1133
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 16: because that's the type of competitor I am, and I

1134
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 16: just wanna go out there and be the best I

1135
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 16: can that this team with which.

1136
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 11: Time you've talked about, UH your wanting to really hit

1137
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 11: the ground running, coming out firing on all cylinders offensively,

1138
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 11: just knowing where you're at, UH, where the offense is.

1139
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 11: How confident are you and how do you feel about

1140
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 11: UH or your ability to to achieve that to really

1141
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 11: hit the ground running come Sunday and not having to

1142
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 11: spend a lot of time working things out, working through.

1143
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 16: Uh, I'm very confident and I I just really to

1144
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 16: add on to that is just to you know, all

1145
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 16: the work has been put in, so we gonna continue

1146
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 16: to put in a work until that that first whistle

1147
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 16: and the balls kicked off, and then we just gotta

1148
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 16: go out there and just go play man. Just put

1149
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 16: things together together and execute. And I think that's the

1150
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 16: biggest thing. Go out there on n field and know

1151
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 16: that we put in the work and you know, we

1152
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 16: have the team and the players around and the culture

1153
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 16: stuff with the game plan to go out there and

1154
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 16: execute to try to win. You know, for uh, Cleveland Browns,

1155
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 16: what is.

1156
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: Your games life?

1157
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 6: For your games?

1158
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 12: We're against the division teams last year, and uh does

1159
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 12: that give you a better comfort now going into full

1160
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 12: season against this division?

1161
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean the division is the division. But you know,

1162
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 16: every year is a different year. So you know, we

1163
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 16: learn and and we live how we you know, we

1164
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 16: watch the film and we live what happened. Yeah, uh

1165
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 16: last year. But at the same time, going into this year,

1166
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 16: we just gotta focus on the task ahead. So you know,

1167
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 16: we get our division early on, and you know, we

1168
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 16: gotta go out there and compete because you know, there's

1169
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 16: no stopships in this division and there's there three three

1170
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 16: of the great teams you know, in the AFC in

1171
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 16: the NFL, So we gotta go out there and make

1172
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 16: sure we ready to play.

1173
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 6: To captain, what does the first of all, what does

1174
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 6: that mean to you?

1175
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 8: And then make it's the latest guys talk about how

1176
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 8: many avenue Seed has in you?

1177
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 6: What does it mean to you when you hear your

1178
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 6: teammates talking VI.

1179
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 16: I mean, of course it means a lot, you know,

1180
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 16: but that's that's my character. That's who I am, you know,

1181
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 16: and all the you know, the things that they wanna

1182
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 16: see is gonna eventually show. The more time they're around me,

1183
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 16: like they been the past year and a half, and

1184
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 16: you know, the more we got get on the field

1185
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 16: and work out and train and the off season, during

1186
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 16: the season, during training camp, you know, all that stuff

1187
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 16: just kind of naturally come out. There's no point of

1188
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 16: me trying to force the issue or force who I

1189
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 16: am as a leader, as a you know, a captain.

1190
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 16: I appreciate you know, the sea being on on the

1191
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 16: jersey and things like that. But even if I wasn't,

1192
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 16: if I wasn't voted captain, I was still gonna be

1193
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 16: the leader and continue to you know, control what I

1194
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 16: can control and eat this teen to you know.

1195
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 6: Hope the whole bunch of vistors.

1196
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: What Puinch sends out to you about the uh Bengals,

1197
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: Steve Tumps.

1198
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 6: When you watch.

1199
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 16: Somebody uh effort execution guys that fly around, it's very smart.

1200
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 6: They don't make a lot of mistakes, and they you

1201
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 6: gotta beat 'em.

1202
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: You have to be a you know, they.

1203
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 16: Don't give you a lot of easy uh easy throws

1204
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 16: or any easy runs.

1205
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 10: You gotta go earn it. What did you What has your.

1206
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 13: Feeling so much better about all the offense and your

1207
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 13: role and scheme and all of that stuff than.

1208
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 6: Maybe you did and you even last year, I just say, Tom, Tom.

1209
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 16: And just reps is the biggest thing? Is that that

1210
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 16: makes my confidence, you know a lot better than it

1211
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 16: was last year.

1212
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 8: Could you show what are you appreciated about your bus game?

1213
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 10: Uh?

1214
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: I think it's the grit.

1215
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 16: I think it's the the fight, the the competitiveness, uh

1216
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 16: and just the swagger he got, you know, and all

1217
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 16: those all those attributes, and you know, I can keep

1218
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 16: going on and on, but you know, he wanted the

1219
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 16: best in the game for a reason, and he's had

1220
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 16: all the success in the world because he works at it.

1221
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 16: I don't really know him as a person, but I

1222
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 16: just know him from a farm. But other people say,

1223
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 16: I think he's a great teammate, great player, and a

1224
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 16: great person to be around. So you know, a lot

1225
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 16: of respectful Joe for the season, Uh, just speach a week.

1226
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 16: My expectations for the season.

1227
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 6: Just be the best player I can be.

1228
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 8: Beat thee.

1229
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 15: Watson.

1230
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 12: What do you make of the fact that Bengals have

1231
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 12: worn the division two years and rolling up the Browns

1232
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 12: have played them really well?

1233
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 11: What do you make of that?

1234
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 6: Did they SIS teams match up well against the Bangos?

1235
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

1236
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 16: I guess that's just the way the NFL works.

1237
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 6: I I'm not sure.

1238
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 16: I don't really answer that.

1239
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 9: And to Shawn, I know that Bengals secondary looks different

1240
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 9: than it did this time last year.

1241
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 11: I guess I said you what you've seen out of

1242
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 11: this particular court.

1243
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

1244
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 16: I think that's a small sumul size just because two

1245
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 16: new guys in this system. Uh, in the secondary, I

1246
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 16: know Hill was there last year. It was a rookie,

1247
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 16: so he played in certain spots a little bit of nickel.

1248
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 16: Uh yeah, and then uh twenty nine played a little

1249
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 16: bit corner he played against his last year. Very very

1250
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 16: good player. So and of course you know Mike Hilton. So,

1251
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 16: I mean, I know it's a new secondary, but those

1252
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 16: guys gonna be flying around, They're gonna be ready to play,

1253
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 16: They're gonna be active, and you know, we gotta make

1254
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 16: sure that we not share energy. And uh, you know,

1255
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 16: we respect the the defense, we respect their secondary, and

1256
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 16: no matter who they put out there, we gotta go

1257
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 16: out there and play.

1258
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 6: Year were late in the year, the weather wasn't great.

1259
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 6: I don't think they had the field houses.

1260
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 5: So what do you expect for the atmosphere Sunday, for

1261
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 5: the home over wins, all.

1262
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 16: The fans of all that exec I mean, I expect

1263
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 16: nothing but great, positive, fun, loud energy.

1264
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 6: Uh. And that's one of the reasons why I.

1265
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 16: Chose Cleveland at the fan days, so at that that

1266
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 16: feeling how you used to feel, you know, that college atmosphere.

1267
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 16: The fans are up, there's they're loud, that turning on

1268
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 16: the offense, that churning on the defense, the special teams,

1269
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 16: when you guys make big plays, were making you know,

1270
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 16: we're getting the energy going in the stadium, and uh,

1271
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 16: you know a lot of people you know, you know,

1272
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 16: especially as players, we feed off the the fans and

1273
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 16: the fans feed off of us. So we can match

1274
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 16: those two. I think we can have a lot of

1275
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 16: success Trump.

1276
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 8: Going into this season.

1277
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 11: There's so many expectations for this team. And also feel

1278
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 11: that as a player. So for you to return to

1279
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 11: that guy we saw in Houston, they could just take

1280
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 11: over games of what has to happen for you.

1281
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 16: Just be me And you know, I don't wanna return

1282
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 16: as a guy he's I wanna be better than that guy.

1283
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 16: So what I was on the two thousand, twenty three

1284
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 16: three years ago, I'm not the same guy. So I

1285
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 16: feel like I've improved, I've involved to a new level

1286
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 16: and I'm ready to be able to show that.

1287
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 6: You know.

1288
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 16: You know last year was a tricky time where you know,

1289
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 16: I was learning everything, but you know, I I don't

1290
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 16: wanna just get caught.

1291
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 6: Up on Hey, Houston is Houston that you know I got.

1292
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 16: I had a lot of fun, a lot of success

1293
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 16: in Houston, but I wanna have that success and start.

1294
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 6: Something to do with clean.

1295
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 15: So a lot of people say, yeah, can you get

1296
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 15: back to the level you were rather in twenty.

1297
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 8: Twenty Like you're saying, right, you wanna be better?

1298
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 15: You didn't.

1299
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 12: You can not know about that, of course, And I

1300
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 12: know I can't be those Houston teams when the division

1301
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 12: we're good teams. Is this team better than how Ah,

1302
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna match the teams we had some great teams.

1303
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 16: It's a lot of success in Houston. I have had

1304
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 16: fun in Houston with the guys I played with and

1305
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 16: the coaching stuff I have. This team is the new

1306
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 16: twenty twenty three Cleveland Browns, and were ready to take

1307
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 16: the the field and we'll figure out, you know, towards

1308
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 16: the end of the year and how we are trouble boy.

1309
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 10: Do you think.

1310
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 13: You should say, uh, you know, on the r vidos

1311
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 13: and to sign frouns and empty backfields.

1312
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 6: And all the things that you don't get to do

1313
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 6: this season.

1314
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 16: I'm just decided to go out there and play and

1315
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 16: whatever Kevin calls you, go out there and execute, and

1316
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 16: uh try to put a lot of points on the

1317
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 16: board and help us this team out, help the defense

1318
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 16: out and it win a lot of games.

1319
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: And you tryna guys running in every game, I know,

1320
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 5: but just to Ken getting getting cutting on his shoulder,

1321
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 5: can that set the tone for for the season?

1322
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 16: Of course, I mean, every every opener is gonna set

1323
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 16: the tone for the season. You wanna ride, you wanna

1324
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 16: go into the season with a victory, and that's what

1325
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 16: everyone is striving for. But every week is a new week,

1326
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 16: and it's a new opportunity and a lot of things

1327
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 16: happen in the NFL, but we gotta lock in and

1328
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 16: focus on this week. And that's what we've been focused on,

1329
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 16: is set him intent at one o'clock, including Brown Stadium,

1330
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 16: and yeah, we wanna go out.

1331
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 6: There and uh go have fun.

1332
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 8: When you talk about the offense, producer works when you

1333
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 8: visualize it, what is it?

1334
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 16: A lot of points and victory and we're just out

1335
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 16: there having fun.

1336
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: That's all I can really, you know, speak on that.

1337
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 13: Can you relate to I mean, what uh Joe must

1338
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 13: be going through here, coming as a happener, h against

1339
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 13: a defense like this, coming off your calf stream not

1340
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 13: having practiced or or a month you you know, as

1341
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 13: a fellow quarterback to the story kind of.

1342
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 6: Relate to what you must be dealing here right now

1343
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 6: with that.

1344
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1345
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 16: As far as yeah, I mean not having a training

1346
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 16: camp some it it depends though, I mean every player

1347
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 16: is different. Some guys need training camp, some guys don't

1348
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 16: need training camp. I feel like, you know, it just

1349
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 16: depends on what they've been working on with him.

1350
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

1351
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 16: But as far as you know, going against our defense,

1352
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 16: I can't give out in the tips and q's that's crazy.

1353
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 16: So I just hope you ready for sure. But you

1354
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 16: know it's Joe Burrow, So he's gonna be good.

1355
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun having these two go head to

1356
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: head for the next decade or so. In the Battle

1357
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: of Ohio coming up next, we will go around the league.

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Speaker 2: As we go around the NFL, here we've got the

1370
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: big news. Obviously, Essay was Travis Kelcey with the knee

1371
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: injury he avoided seriously injury. His brother actually broke down

1372
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: the injury this morning on radio in Philly. What did

1373
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: he say? He said that he has swelling in his

1374
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: spring knee, similar to what happened to Jason Kelcey last

1375
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: year during the season while he was trying to kick

1376
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: a piece of wood in his yard to start a bonfire.

1377
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: At least has happened on the practice field. But if

1378
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: they could get this swelling down, he could be Okay,

1379
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean, let's think about this, like there are this

1380
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: is in so that's in Philly. Jason Kelsey's on. I'm

1381
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: pretty sure he's on every week. Brady was used to

1382
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: be on every week in New England. In Boston. Roethlisberger,

1383
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. Roethlisberger would be on every Monday

1384
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. Yeah, like this in some places. That's how

1385
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, Like, it's pretty remarkable the way that

1386
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: it all works. But uh and these aren't like us.

1387
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: Like this is a sports talk radio show in Philly

1388
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: that has Jason Kelsey.

1389
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 8: Every Tuesday, you can hear from Jerry.

1390
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: Well Jerah Jerah. Jera had the line of yesterday's availabilities

1391
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: with the trade where he says, I don't have to

1392
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: I can do the I can do the uh Trey

1393
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: Lance trade in five minutes. I don't know if they

1394
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: have I'm I'm him. Yeah, it's truly him. I don't

1395
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: they play tomorrow. If they were playing Sunday, I would

1396
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: think it would maybe he would give it a go.

1397
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: But I don't know what the point would be in

1398
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: Kelsey playing in the opener tomorrow.

1399
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 4: If he's all the way structurally fine, it's just swelling.

1400
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: Right, But if there's any why wouldn't you just be

1401
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: extra precautious. He's like, well, I think he's gonna miss

1402
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: I think he'll miss a week, he'll miss.

1403
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 4: This be one game.

1404
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 8: Well, and you get extra time to recover.

1405
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: At ten night, right, did you guys see mahomes and openers?

1406
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 10: Oh?

1407
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see his numbers and over there has he like,

1408
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: never thrown a pick in He has not thrown an

1409
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: interception in an opener. I can't speak to September. That

1410
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 2: seems probably right too, But the average is like three

1411
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: thirty four touchdowns, no picks over over his five openers.

1412
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: So he's he's always very good. That one is tomorrow night.

1413
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks came and went episode five last night'd you

1414
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: guys check it out?

1415
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 4: I did not watch last night's episode.

1416
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 15: No.

1417
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: I had a little fantasy draft I was doing.

1418
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: Did you give a you had luck on on?

1419
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 8: I know I caught some bits and pieces on the

1420
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 8: social this morning.

1421
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it was a I mean it's quarterback Aaron

1422
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: Rodgers is what it was. It finished, It was all

1423
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: five episodes, was all Rogers. He told a story about

1424
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 2: somebody of his at cal who they saw a UFO together, Like,

1425
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: you'll never have another instance like this where you'll have

1426
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: this type of access to a star. I mean, like

1427
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: to have in training camp with a new team. You'll

1428
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: never see this again. I mean you think about, like

1429
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: what our Hard Knocks was compared to this or even

1430
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: any of the more recent ones. You've never had this

1431
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 2: type of access. He's miked up. He lights them up

1432
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: at practice because they're not getting the they're not running

1433
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: the right routes. On a couple of the guys aren't

1434
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: running the right routes. Him.

1435
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 4: He said he's gonna get mad, and he did.

1436
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: He lit him up several times, and then at one

1437
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: point he pulls over Garrett Wilson. He's like, just do this,

1438
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: and he hit him like five straight times in stride

1439
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: Big runs just Wilson Wilson, Wilson Wilson, just essentially to

1440
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: prove like I know where the holes are and now

1441
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm just going to do it on my own out

1442
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: of structure. Yeah, because I'm sick of this.

1443
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1444
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 7: Now I would say this like we were saying, we're

1445
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 7: never going to see it again. If Hard Knocks would

1446
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 7: like to stay as relevant, as relevant as they've been

1447
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 7: maybe in the last ten years, they would they would

1448
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 7: continue to try to find a way to feature a

1449
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 7: quarterback of some ilk.

1450
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: Well but Gibbe, as you know, that's really not their choice.

1451
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: It's up to the teams. The teams give them who

1452
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: they want. So like we I mean, we can say

1453
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 2: it now it's a different regime. We misled them. There's

1454
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: that Netflix show like it's not we had following people

1455
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: that were irrelevant, like, yeah, boy did we you know,

1456
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: whereas like they got Rogers. The two stars were Rogers

1457
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: and Sala mostly Rogers a little bit solid. Yeah, that

1458
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: that's the way that it worked, and that's the way

1459
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: that it played out last night. I bought it hook

1460
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 2: line and Sinker by the way on them all in, Yeah,

1461
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: buy him on. You know, whatever the wins, we will

1462
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: we do over unders, we will do that tomorrow. On

1463
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: the NFL teams we can totals, probably have to get

1464
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: we got to get some predictions on those type of things.

1465
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: Got to get that in at some point. But yeah,

1466
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I it's hard not to like him, and

1467
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: it's hard to not to imagine Garrett Wilson being a

1468
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: monster for Rodgers this year. He's very Roger's very confident

1469
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: in where he's at. Speaking of Hard Knocks, one of

1470
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: the stars of Hard Knocks when we had it here

1471
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: was Carl Nassap. He announced his retirement today.

1472
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 6: There you go.

1473
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, broke some barriers he did. It's a good player

1474
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 4: year with Tampa. I think you said six sacks.

1475
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: That's right after we let him go. We let him go,

1476
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: I don't know about a savings account. You ten percent,

1477
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 2: be nice, be awesome. Yeah, usually not quite that number,

1478
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: not even half that. Not the way that that works. Now,

1479
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: the Cardinals are have an interesting week. They are listing

1480
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs or Clayton Tune I don't even know Clayton

1481
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: Tune as the starter on their projected week one depth chart.

1482
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: They also named Kyler Murray captain.

1483
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 8: I don't know what they're doing there.

1484
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: I think they're trying to make it seem like he's valuable.

1485
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 7: Their coach, like in the commercial break yesterday. Try to

1486
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 7: piece that together.

1487
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 6: I don't.

1488
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 8: I'm not sure what's going on.

1489
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: No, I think they're trying to create false I think

1490
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: they're trying to create a market for Kyler Murray. They should,

1491
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: It's what I think they're doing. And I don't. Well,

1492
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: let's say let's just pretend that he likes Murray, okay,

1493
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: and they are terrible this year anyway. Let's say they

1494
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: like Murray and they're like, actually, you know, we're which

1495
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: even financially, you would never do it because you'd rather

1496
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: have Caleb Williams for five years at controllable than this

1497
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. That they just gave the extension. But let's

1498
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: just say you loved Murray like you and you were

1499
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,439
Speaker 2: picking first and second. What are those draft picks worth

1500
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: if you traded them, and it's Kayleb Williams.

1501
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 4: A ton, five ones, the whatever the max you can get.

1502
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: Whatever the max you could get would be, and maybe

1503
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: players and two's and pick you know it could it's crazy.

1504
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: And so they could do that game twice if they

1505
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: wanted to and just get picks everywhere.

1506
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 4: We'll see, yeah, we'll see. I mean, I don't know

1507
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 4: what I would think they would.

1508
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 3: This isn't like a college game where you list dual

1509
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 3: starters like, oh my god, they got to prepare for

1510
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 3: our guy Josh Dobbs and Clayton tune like that's gonna

1511
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 3: keep them up at night.

1512
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1513
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: They play Washington.

1514
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, brutal commands are gonna feast.

1515
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that is. That's a brutal weak one. But yeah,

1516
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't see any you know, clearly, Yeah he get

1517
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: going on playing like yeah, what was the kid the

1518
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 2: cartoon where the kid played the were they hotters like

1519
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: emmt otter and they played like a played a little

1520
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: tambourine or something like that or a banjo. A banjo

1521
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: feels like a little bit like a ukulele.

1522
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 10: There is that.

1523
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yes, yes he is, Yeah, em it

1524
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: Honor's jug band Christmas.

1525
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 8: I have never heard you guys got nothing.

1526
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 4: On the ever nothing no, zero, zip zilch, not a

1527
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 4: not a, not a thing. Never seen them before in

1528
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 4: my life.

1529
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 8: Really never never.

1530
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Those I always thought it sucked when

1531
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: I was a kid. Those that definitely remember it.

1532
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 4: They look like those, like the random dudes that you

1533
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 4: playing like.

1534
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: I think they were known.

1535
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 6: I don't know that.

1536
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out if you guys don't know, maybe.

1537
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 4: It was just something they should and you're in the

1538
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 4: middle of us.

1539
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: It was all I had to type in was emt

1540
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: otter and the rest they knew jug band whatever. So

1541
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: that's I don't know, it's all there for you kids.

1542
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you.

1543
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad that I was able to spawn that

1544
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 4: memory for you.

1545
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: Oh you're playing a little jug band there, Yeah, A

1546
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: little bit a little bit of that, A little bit.

1547
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 6: All right?

1548
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: Who did he? Who's the ESPN's got burrows? That's their

1549
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: thing yet link anymore?

1550
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 8: Burrow was their Most Valuable Player.

1551
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: Let's do ours right now?

1552
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 8: Are we doing it?

1553
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: We're doing it right now? All the awards.

1554
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 8: We've got Charles Davis coming up here.

1555
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: But he's not breaking. How long is it's gonna take? Yeah,

1556
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 2: but we can do m v P Offensive Player of

1557
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 2: the Year in two minutes? All right, can't we? Or

1558
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: do you want to do this tomorrow? Like over, I

1559
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: got to bring the spreadsheet up.

1560
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have a lot to go because but we

1561
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 7: have It was fun last year to go back and

1562
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 7: realize how wrong well I.

1563
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 8: Was on some things.

1564
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: I mean, we do a lot of we have a

1565
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: lot of m VP. I had your Super Bowl winner.

1566
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: I mean I went out on a limb with Mahomes

1567
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. You did so? Yeah, okay, so we

1568
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: won't we'll we'll hold off. Well that's a that's a

1569
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: fifteen minute. We got that too. So tomorrow we'll have

1570
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: individual awards we've got and then we get we're gonna

1571
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 2: have to have division We're gonna have to pick division champs.

1572
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 7: We're gonna have to pick that. We could do part

1573
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 7: heard of it tomorrow. We're gonna do part of it

1574
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 7: on Friday.

1575
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: All Right, you got to tomorrow at individual awards. We'll

1576
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 2: probably do you want to do over unders tomorrow? Win totals, Yes,

1577
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: this is this is what we did. Do that, or

1578
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: we're doing guests. Oh yeah, we got lot. This is

1579
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: what we did last year.

1580
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 3: We predicted every division winner and then the wild cards

1581
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 3: in both conferences. We did NFC champ AFC Champa games

1582
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 3: like the matchups we had Super Bowl champions. We then

1583
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: did the m v P Offensive Player of the Year,

1584
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year, Coach of the Year. Well,

1585
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 3: we both had Siriani.

1586
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 6: Good for us.

1587
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 2: How about that?

1588
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 4: Look at us.

1589
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 3: Gibbs had Josh McDaniels, less good, not as not as good,

1590
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 3: hot seat. I had McCarthy, You had Rule, he had Cliff.

1591
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: So that was good.

1592
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 10: There.

1593
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 3: Playoff surprise, Givebay had Minnesota, give By take a bow.

1594
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 3: You had the Jags, and I had the Lions, who

1595
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:02,879
Speaker 3: it feels like made the playoffs.

1596
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: Even though they did that, people think they did. I

1597
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: think fields like the Green Bay people think that field

1598
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: didn't get on that one too.

1599
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 4: Bust.

1600
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: We did pretty good Tennessee Tennessee. Give me at Arizona.

1601
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 3: Although I don't know there was ever a lot.

1602
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: I expect Arizona.

1603
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: I had New England as a bust. Bo Diners is

1604
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 3: a bust. Really feels like Gibbey's hate.

1605
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: That doesn't come from you them is a bust. I

1606
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: could see me like thinking the Trey Lance thing wasn't

1607
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 2: going to work and that it would they wouldn't, but

1608
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: you still had them in the way I had them

1609
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. So that doesn't make sense. So that's

1610
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: a it's relative bust. That's not a relative bus, right, Yeah. Yeah,

1611
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: so that we have.

1612
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's all stuff that we got.

1613
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: So we got a lot to do tomorrow. Yeah.

1614
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 4: Oh and we got over unders we got Yeah, guess.

1615
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: A lot's a lot going on.

1616
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 6: We have a lot.

1617
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 2: We got a lot going on. Meantime, we have a

1618
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: lot going on. Coming up next to good buddy Charles

1619
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: Davis going to join us. You listened to Cleve the

1620
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN.

1621
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bett

1622
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1623
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: Join Zee and Girod Cherry Thursday night, seven to eight

1624
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: at brue Garden on Bagley Road in Middleburg Heights for

1625
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: the regular season debut of the Kevin Stefanski Show. Stop

1626
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: by meet Brown's quarterback Greg Newsom. Enjoyed great specials from

1627
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 2: bud Light as well as we head out on the hotline,

1628
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 2: the Twisted Tea Hotline visit with our great friend Charles

1629
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: Davis of CBS. He will be on the call this

1630
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: weekend for the Battle of Ohio. Charles, as you're getting

1631
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: into your homework on this, and we've been dealing with

1632
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: kind of talking about this a little bit throughout the week.

1633
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 2: Is this Brown's roster undervalued nationally? I used to think so.

1634
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 10: First of all, Hello guys, it's good to talk with

1635
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 10: you again.

1636
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 8: Great, we'll be with you great.

1637
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 10: And I imagine the answer answer is yes, because it's

1638
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 10: almost time for that ball to be put on it.

1639
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 10: Teet kicked off, all right. And by the way, we

1640
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 10: better cherish all these kickoffs we see because the way

1641
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 10: things are going, we might not see them in the

1642
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 10: not too dist in future. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but boy,

1643
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 10: that momentum certainly seems to be swinging. But anyway, off

1644
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 10: my soapbox. I used to think it was undervalued, but

1645
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 10: I don't anymore. You know that old expression, how can

1646
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 10: you be underrated when everyone calls you underrated. I feel

1647
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 10: like that's what's happened with the Browns. I feel like

1648
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 10: this is the off season kept progressing every time I

1649
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 10: heard someone talk, and it's not a lament, it just

1650
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 10: became a reality. I'd hear people in different markets, depending

1651
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 10: on where I traveled, I'd hear people doing national shows.

1652
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 10: You know, the question was always inevitably at some point,

1653
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 10: so who do you think is going to be a

1654
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 10: surprise team this year? Who do you think is better

1655
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 10: than what people are talking about? The Browns came up

1656
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 10: more and more and more and more. Caveats absolutely, you know,

1657
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 10: history of since the Heydays, Deshaun Watson. Can he get

1658
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 10: back to twenty twenty four?

1659
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 8: Yep.

1660
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 10: But all I kept hearing was this is the best

1661
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 10: roster I've seen the Browns have in a while. And

1662
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 10: they like the people leading it, they like the management

1663
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 10: in place. I really think it comes down to the quarterback.

1664
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 10: And you know, sounds stupid, right because we say that

1665
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 10: about every team, but in this case, with the investment made,

1666
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 10: he's got to pay that off.

1667
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 4: I think I think you're right.

1668
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 3: I think that you know, in some ways, the question

1669
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 3: stems from the fact we see a lot of power

1670
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 3: rankings out of the Browns is like the twenty second,

1671
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: twenty third team in the NFL, and I find that

1672
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 3: hard with our roster. But this is a team that's

1673
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 3: going to have to prove and what we've talked about

1674
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 3: is this the team's got to go out there, you know,

1675
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: and do it. And it's going to start with obviously

1676
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 3: offensively Sean Watson. But I'll flip to the other side.

1677
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 3: It's a remade defense. We have twenty seven guys on

1678
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: this roster on defense, fifteen of them are new, especially

1679
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 3: in the defensive line. Seven new guys on the defensive line,

1680
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 3: three of the starters. What do you think of that

1681
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 3: remake and then the addition of Jim Schwartz to this defense.

1682
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, I really think that because Jim Schwartz took over

1683
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 10: the defense, it gained a bump in terms of how

1684
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 10: it was viewed. And your point is so well taken.

1685
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 10: Like if you take Jim Schwartz's name off of the

1686
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 10: deal and you don't know who the coordinator is, you

1687
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 10: know the person's new, and then you just look at

1688
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 10: the remake of the roster. You say to you, some hmm, interesting.

1689
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 10: But the other part is, Okay, who's there that we

1690
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 10: can count on? Well, Miles Garrett is there. Okay, that's

1691
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 10: a great starting block. Who'd you introduce this new well

1692
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 10: Dalvin Tomlinson and Zadarius Smith up front? Oh Shelby Harris

1693
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 10: comes in later on whoa Okay? Starting to really like

1694
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 10: what I'm seeing here. Get to the back of the

1695
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 10: back of the defense. Denzel Ward mj Emerson played really

1696
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 10: well as a rookie. You're getting wan Thornhill from Kansas City.

1697
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 10: Greg Newsom continues to go out and play right Yet

1698
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 10: Grant Delpit, who I really love coming out of college.

1699
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 10: The big thing with in being healthy last year over

1700
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 10: one hundred tackles here he is to me, the biggest

1701
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 10: question mark in so many ways is not in terms

1702
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 10: of talent, but in terms of health. Linebackers yep we

1703
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 10: wosukor Mora Walker, Taki Taki Can they all come back

1704
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 10: and go because we didn't really see it in the preseason,

1705
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 10: and let's face it, Walker and Taki Takier come back

1706
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 10: off of injuries that you're like, okay, can you move

1707
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 10: and run? Because if you can, we really like it.

1708
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 10: If you can't, that's gonna be an issue, Charles.

1709
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 2: One of the last year when we did the team

1710
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 2: workouts with Philly, we were really bullied up front. And

1711
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 2: then this year we returned into the exercise over in

1712
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: Philly and kind of repeated ourselves. And one of the

1713
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,799
Speaker 2: things that changed dramatically from our perspective was most especially

1714
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 2: noticeably upfront. Miles is a game wrecker. We know that, Charles.

1715
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: He's never played with anything like this, Not Dalvin Tomlinson,

1716
01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: not Obo okoron quote, not Zadarius Smith opposite, this is

1717
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: a defensive line that we tend to think could hang

1718
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 2: with about with most in the league. Where do you

1719
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 2: stand on the guys who are going to be running

1720
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: with Miles up front?

1721
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't think there's any question about it. And

1722
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 10: where I'm really more convinced about him. It is not

1723
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 10: just the front line guys. Tomlinson's been a proven guy

1724
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 10: since he's gotten into the league. He played well from

1725
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 10: day one in New York. Shelby Harris is a guy

1726
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 10: that you get and you're like, we got Shelby Harris,

1727
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 10: you know, I mean that's a big get, right, That's

1728
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 10: a really good player. To Darius Smith, we know about

1729
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 10: his sack totals. When he's fully healthy, we get all

1730
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 10: of that. Where I'm convinced on them is the depth

1731
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 10: getting ika in the draft who can move in and play,

1732
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 10: you know at defensive tackle, Jordan Elliot who you drafted previously,

1733
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 10: Alex Wright who's been on the roster previously. I liked

1734
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 10: Isaiah Maguire coming out of Missouri, so I think as

1735
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 10: over time as he gets a chance to work in

1736
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 10: and then Okuronquell. The one thing about him that I

1737
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 10: want to see is the consistency game in, game out.

1738
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 10: He has impact and makes play. I'm reading these things.

1739
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 10: I'm gonna sit here and tell you straight up. I'm

1740
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 10: reading all this stuff in the offseason. He's the fastest

1741
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 10: get off, he's the fastest guard to the quarterback. He

1742
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 10: does this, he does that, history and a half sacks.

1743
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 6: I need more.

1744
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 10: I'm sorry. I mean for everything I'm reading, I'm reading

1745
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 10: him like he's a Pro Bowl player. He's not been

1746
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 10: a Pro Bowl player. He's a part time guy who

1747
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 10: gets to the quarterback when he has an opportunity, who's

1748
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 10: fast and all that. I want to see more. And

1749
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that it's not there, but it's been interesting.

1750
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 6: In reading it.

1751
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 10: I'm not saying coming from Cleveland. I'm talk about a

1752
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 10: round the league. When you start reading the analytics and

1753
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 10: you're reading this and you're reading that, I'm a little

1754
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 10: bit on the older side. I love analytics. But you're

1755
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 10: telling me this guy's at the All Star most has

1756
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 10: been four and a half sacks. I gotta see Moore.

1757
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And for him, I say, from the standpoint of

1758
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 3: that would be he only started. I think in his

1759
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 3: last seven games last year he had five sacks, six

1760
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 3: tackles for lost and that was the only time really

1761
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: started in his career.

1762
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 4: But you're counting on that.

1763
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, he's on the rise. I get that, we'll

1764
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 10: see it. But he's had opportunities to be a front

1765
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 10: line guy before. Didn't get it until now now. But

1766
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 10: but here's the thing. Now you can actually spot him.

1767
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 10: And if he's like those good d hs in baseball

1768
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 10: and he makes the most of his opportunities, he could

1769
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 10: very well pressed for double digits.

1770
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 6: Acts.

1771
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 3: Agreed, He's going to get nothing but single coverage. He's

1772
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 3: gonna get nothing but one on ones against the whole

1773
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 3: every pass rushing one on one talk with.

1774
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 2: Your simple Hey, real, real, quick.

1775
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 10: Let's if he gets a second blocker out there, that

1776
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 10: means someone made a mistake on the offensive. That's right,

1777
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 10: someone went the wrong way and then someone else. I'm

1778
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 10: not saying it to detegrate him at all. If exactly

1779
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 10: what you said with the other guys.

1780
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 3: You've been have some extra people for them when you

1781
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 3: went through this game in your preparations, and I was

1782
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 3: just doing it for me, you know, earlier today, you

1783
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 3: and I talked earlier today. This Bengals offense loaded. You

1784
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 3: get it, turn it over the defense, and you're like,

1785
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 3: you like that starter. The starters on the defensive line,

1786
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 3: They've got some good depth on the defensive line, especially

1787
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 3: on the interior. The starting linebackers are very good. And

1788
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 3: then I got to the safety and I kind of

1789
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 3: to the secondary. I'm sorry, and I kind of didn't

1790
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 3: believe my eyes, there's not a lot of depth. There's

1791
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 3: a lot of potential risk here with this second ear

1792
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 3: What do you think of this remade Bengals secondary and

1793
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 3: what it's gonna be week one versus obviously what I

1794
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 3: think they hope it'll be by you know, November December,

1795
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 3: when it's winning time for them.

1796
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's almost like when you have a

1797
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 10: proven coach taking over a team that has a few

1798
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 10: question marks. What's the old expression we have always used

1799
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 10: with that, Well, you better get him early before before

1800
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 10: he settles in, right. I feel the same way about

1801
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 10: the back end of the Bengals, especially at the safety position,

1802
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,440
Speaker 10: because lou Ana Roumo, who's as good a coordinator ass

1803
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 10: or is in the league. If he's one of the

1804
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 10: guys that I've been championing to be a head coach,

1805
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 10: and that's not anything new, but because of the way

1806
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 10: he commands a room presence, all of that, that's what

1807
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 10: I believe makes a better head coach than a guy

1808
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 10: can go up and draw for just great ball players.

1809
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 10: But that's just me. But he got so used to

1810
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 10: what they call unconscious confidence in the back end that Jesse,

1811
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 10: Bates and Von Bell knew what the other was doing

1812
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 10: by just a look right, and sometimes they didn't even

1813
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 10: have to look at each other. They shared a mind.

1814
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 10: They knew it. You know, you can liken them to

1815
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 10: a double play combination that shortstop and second basement. Who

1816
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 10: know where each other is going to be and it's

1817
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 10: just flip it to the right spot because you know

1818
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 10: where he needs to get it and all those things.

1819
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 10: When you develop that back there, you're good. Lou's had it,

1820
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 10: Bates and Bell, he doesn't have it right now. That

1821
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 10: still has to be developed between Dax's Hill and Nick Scott,

1822
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 10: and Nick Scott's a one year starter in Italy, so

1823
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 10: that has to develop over time. Because it's lou Ana Rumo,

1824
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 10: because it's the Bengals, because of the talent of those guys,

1825
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 10: Dak Taill's the first round pick. I expect it to develop.

1826
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 10: I would be very I'm very eager to watch on

1827
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 10: Sunday how it develops in week one, week two, week three,

1828
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 10: right because they have to go through some stuff because

1829
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 10: they didn't play a heck of a lot in preseason.

1830
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 10: You know, they did the practices, they did all the stuff.

1831
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 10: But now it's real, now it's live. Will they make

1832
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 10: any mistakes on the back end that people can take

1833
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 10: advantage of early, and will Louisa Roumo make any adjustments

1834
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 10: with what he wants to call to account for that

1835
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 10: early until he feels a little more confident that they

1836
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 10: have it. If that could be a storyline as we

1837
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 10: get into the game. I think they're improved on the corner.

1838
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 10: It'd be interesting to me to see how Woozy plays

1839
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 10: right out of the gate coming off the ABL. But

1840
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 10: Cam Taylor Britt is a major upgrade over Eli Apple,

1841
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 10: major upgrade. Yeah, and got to play a lot last year,

1842
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 10: So I have zero worries about him. I have more

1843
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 10: worries about a Woozya just getting his feet underneath him

1844
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 10: and going full speed early. Now, by the middle of

1845
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 10: the season, we'll probably see the old Woozy again. But

1846
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 10: out of the gate early, we'll see and we'll we'll

1847
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 10: we'll see how it goes there, and we'll see what

1848
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 10: the Browns have for him.

1849
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 4: Then Yix, it was in Cleveland that he tore his

1850
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 4: acl on that Halloween game that the Browns won.

1851
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, Halloween Night.

1852
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 4: Halloween Night.

1853
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: That's right.

1854
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 4: It's good for the Browns and not as good for

1855
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 4: the Bengals.

1856
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 3: Two guys, and I know you're so plugged in the draft,

1857
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 3: and I was trying to get, you know, in my

1858
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 3: prep for this look up anything about the first and

1859
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 3: second round picks of the Bengals, and you don't hear

1860
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 3: a lot of talk about them. DJ Turner the corner

1861
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 3: out of Michigan and then Miles Murphy out of Clemson.

1862
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 3: Are you expecting them to have roles early in the

1863
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 3: season or what have you kind of heard about them?

1864
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, I do expect them to have roles. I'll start

1865
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,599
Speaker 10: with Murphy. I think his role might have expanded because

1866
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 10: of the injury to Joseph Aside the defensive and who

1867
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 10: has a high ankle sprain and he's day to day

1868
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 10: right now, and if he's not able to go, then

1869
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 10: I expect him to get Miles Murphy go and get

1870
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 10: his feet wet. The beauty of them being able to

1871
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 10: draft him is they knew they didn't draft him be

1872
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 10: a front line guy right away, not with Hendrickson, not

1873
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 10: with Sam Hubbard. But they got a great D line

1874
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 10: coach of Marion Hobby who can bring him along. And

1875
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 10: then DJ Turner same thing. They did not draft him

1876
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 10: to be a starter right away. They drafted him to

1877
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 10: fill in, and he was kind of an insurance policy

1878
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 10: if a woozy couldn't make it back from the ACL.

1879
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 10: He's a smaller size outside corner who looks like he

1880
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 10: should be playing nickel. But to get him going right

1881
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 10: away and get him on the field to keep him

1882
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 10: it outside because you're covered at Nickel with Mike Hilton,

1883
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 10: the underrated Jalen Davis. If you're Cincinnati, but he can fly,

1884
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 10: ran four to two six in the forty at the combine.

1885
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 10: Does that make you a great player? No? John Ross

1886
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 10: ran four to two to two and never developed as

1887
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 10: a player at all. Okay, remember when Cincinnati took him.

1888
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 10: So being fast doesn't mean everything. But this kid has

1889
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 10: the potential to be a very good player for them,

1890
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 10: and I expect them to play some.

1891
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 2: Early Charles big picture, how do you kind of have

1892
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 2: the pecking order in the North as we kick this

1893
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: thing off on Sunday, one.

1894
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 10: Major League fifth fight. This is as good as you're

1895
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 10: going to get. Look, last year, we went into the

1896
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 10: season always screamed about was AFC West because Russell Wilson

1897
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 10: landed there and it's the quarterbacks and boil boy o boy.

1898
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 5: Right.

1899
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 10: This year, I think coming into the season, we're screamed

1900
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 10: by the AFC East because Aaron Rodgers landed there. And

1901
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 10: then you got Josh Allen, you got Tua, you got him.

1902
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 10: You know, New England being New England, there's a lot

1903
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,839
Speaker 10: of attention there. This is one major League fifth fight division.

1904
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 10: I've seen a number of people that I respect that

1905
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 10: have Pittsburgh fourth in the division and they've never finished

1906
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 10: fourth since the breat thing is broken down in two

1907
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 10: thousand and two. Of the new divisional alignment, a lot

1908
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 10: of people are counting on Cleveland to be in that fight.

1909
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 10: I think that they will be as well. I'd be

1910
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 10: surprised if they're not. I don't think you rule anyone

1911
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 10: out in this division. I think you can make a

1912
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 10: case for everyone in the division to be in the playoffs.

1913
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 10: But it starts with Cincinnati. It's hard to get away

1914
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 10: from them being the division champs two times in a

1915
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 10: row and being as strong as they are. I think

1916
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 10: that they set the pace, but that doesn't mean the

1917
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 10: other people aren't going to join in. Because Baltimore, Cleveland,

1918
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 10: Pittsburgh eager for the fight, and I think good enough

1919
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 10: that all four could be considered playoff contenders.

1920
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: It feels like it's yes, yeah, you're going to get

1921
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 2: it right away because you're gonna get you know this

1922
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 2: one that you're gonna be on the games. It's crazy

1923
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: right out right. Four Yeah on Baltimore next week. Yeah,

1924
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun, to be fun, Yes, it really is. Man,

1925
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 2: look forward to seeing you on Sunday. Thanks so much

1926
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: for your time.

1927
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 10: Hey always thanks a lot of guys always go. It's

1928
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 10: good to talk with you. Can't wait to see you

1929
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 10: on Sunday.

1930
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: Sure is one of the best in the business. And man,

1931
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: he's the one of all of the people that we

1932
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 2: have on the boys get most excited about because of Madden. Yeah,

1933
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: did you talk to the guy from Madden? Yeah, yeah,

1934
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 2: that's right, that's what I do. That's right, we do.

1935
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: Could not have happened to a better guys. So much

1936
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 2: more to come. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on

1937
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Speaker 2: a fifty esp and.

1938
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:29,599
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1939
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,160
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1940
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 2: Cleveland Lots going on tomorrow, big predictions across the board.

1941
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: Tomorrow that's our Monster program. Or tomorrow and Friday. We

1942
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: are Friday into the akend. Yeah, it really is lots

1943
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 2: to get to man. Yeah, we did okay last year

1944
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 2: man on the on the big final tally. No, no, no,

1945
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: I know he did well on the scores. But we've

1946
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: done well in this That'll stop at some point, but

1947
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 2: there will be a year where we're not going to

1948
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 2: I mean we just you can't do it. Well, you

1949
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: can't sea in a row.

1950
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 8: We explained it to the gentleman yesterday.

1951
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, that might have that might have done, that might

1952
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 4: have been.

1953
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 6: Makes sense.

1954
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 4: I have a feeling, well, we're gonna start off one

1955
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 4: and no on Thursday.

1956
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Though, I feel like that's a lock. It's a lock

1957
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 2: for the real people. Yeah, you know that goes believer.

1958
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 2: What did we end up last year on the Do

1959
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 2: you have that in terms of no? No, no, no, no,

1960
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 2: like the the big picture stuff like the m v P,

1961
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: the super Bowl and and all of that. Yeah, yeah,

1962
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 2: go ahead, what do we have?

1963
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 4: Hold on? Hold please, we'll go back to week one?

1964
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: All right?

1965
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 3: We had a f C West winners Kansa City, Kansas City,

1966
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 3: Kansas City, the North sincey sincey Cincy, the South, Indie

1967
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,640
Speaker 3: Indie Indie Yikes, East.

1968
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 4: Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo.

1969
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: So we got three of the four, right, Yeah, that's good.

1970
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 3: NFC I had the Niners. You both had the rams

1971
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 3: for shame on both of you said.

1972
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 4: North.

1973
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,839
Speaker 3: We all had Green Bay. They didn't make the playoffs.

1974
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 3: South we had Tampa, that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah they did.

1975
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 3: They went eight and nine, did they?

1976
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? In the East.

1977
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 4: We all had Philly. We got that right.

1978
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 3: Wild cards. I had Minnesota, the Saints, and the Rams. Noop,

1979
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: you had other than the Vikings. You had Minnesota the Niners,

1980
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 3: but you had the Rams wing the division in New Orleans.

1981
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: So we actually had the same playoff team. But so

1982
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: we got five out of the seven I think uh

1983
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 3: and then Gibbe didn't give a wild card, or at

1984
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 3: least they're not written here.

1985
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 4: AFC, we had the Browns, the Chargers, and the BRONC.

1986
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 4: I had both of us.

1987
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 3: You and I both had Browns, Chargers, Broncos as the

1988
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 3: wild cards. So we got the Chargers right.

1989
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 4: NFC Championship, I had Niners, Philly got it.

1990
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 6: Got it.

1991
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 3: You had Green Bay, Tampa Bay. Gibbe had Tampa Bay.

1992
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 3: I had Chargers, Buffalo and the AFC Championship. You had

1993
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 3: Casey Sinsey nailed it. You had Casey as a Super

1994
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 3: Bowl champ.

1995
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Nailed it.

1996
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 4: You had mahomes Is the MVP.

1997
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: Nailed it.

1998
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: I had Herbert gibb also nailed that. We talked about Sirianni.

1999
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 3: We got Offensive Play of the Year. I had Jefferson,

2000
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 3: you had Chase, You had Chubb. He had Chase, but

2001
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 3: Jefferson win that? Who won Offensive Player?

2002
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 6: That your life?

2003
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 8: Jefferson won it last year. I think Jefferson did. Yeah

2004
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 8: he did. He was like a Jordan MVP voting.

2005
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a monster, Jay Jetta.

2006
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 8: There you go.

2007
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 2: All right, so wa did a nice John then yeah,

2008
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 2: try to duplicate that.

2009
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll see if I can pull on another. Josh McDaniels.

2010
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Speaker 2: That's your great, very good. You have that blog forward

2011
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Speaker 2: to which is very very nice. The next level is

2012
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2013
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