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Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice hustle, Pat Price,

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Speaker 1: Swap all my life.

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Speaker 3: I'd be grinding all my life, all my life and

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Speaker 1: Swash all my life. I've been grinding all my life.

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Speaker 1: La la huh. Hello, welcome you to another episode of

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Speaker 1: Club Shape Shape. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm

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Speaker 1: also the propride of Club shap Shape stopping by for

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Speaker 1: conversation on the drink today. Is a band favorite, a

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Speaker 1: familiar face on the comedy. He's been a stand Don't

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Speaker 1: Come comedian for almost thirty live years. He was host

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Speaker 1: to BT Comic View for two seasons. That comedy jam

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Speaker 1: Alum one of the most fit and fearless comedians ever.

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Speaker 1: One of the day's best working artists. A dynamic actor

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Speaker 1: and a writer, he has an infectious energy and a

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Speaker 1: gift for storytelling. He leaves a crowd in tears laughter.

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Speaker 1: He performed to sould that shoulder across the country. He

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Speaker 1: calls himself one of the great fishermen. Let him tell it,

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Speaker 1: he was also a great athlete when he was younger. Harry,

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Speaker 1: you dat I hadn't seen this man in a long time,

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Speaker 1: but hey be about to catch up, mister R. S J.

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Speaker 1: Come on now, see there you.

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Speaker 2: Go, Come on now that that's pretty good. One of

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Speaker 2: them things you read went huh No, but no, it's

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Speaker 2: all is you, That's all. That's man thirty five in

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Speaker 1: Nah, I'm not writer. I'm a I'm a visionary.

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Speaker 2: I visualize and I see things in my head and

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Speaker 2: I guess it jots itself down, right.

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Speaker 1: But you don't write. You don't write down anything no now,

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Speaker 1: because I would get an f Trust me, you weren't

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Speaker 1: good at school. I have good penmanship. You know.

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Speaker 2: You know I was good at school as far as

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Speaker 2: learn it right. But the reason I said I wasn't

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Speaker 2: other for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, when I saw.

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Speaker 2: How brainy you were, I basically shut the hell up

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Speaker 2: because I was like, it don't make no sense. Of

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Speaker 2: black man to talk with this much art turk, as

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Speaker 2: much articulous elation in his brain. But he's straight country.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't get that he go catfishing.

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Speaker 2: But he can, he can, he can, he can hang

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Speaker 1: I mean good. Yeah, I'm pretty good. You are. You're intelligent,

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Speaker 1: very intelligent. I appreciate that you really are. You know what,

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Speaker 1: Let's start off with this. You've been in the game

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Speaker 1: thirty five years and a lot of I mean you

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Speaker 1: always normally not always, but you tell a story. One

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Speaker 1: of your favorite storylines is you talk about your brother Rodney.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to know how it is Rodney. Do it. Rodney.

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Speaker 2: I will never ever be able to let go out

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Speaker 2: And I'm not one of these I'm not one of

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Speaker 2: these comedians. When somebody says do this, you you despite

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Speaker 2: like remember who paid you get gotten you where you're

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Speaker 2: they will not let Rodney ever go because there's always

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Speaker 2: there's always a new story about Rodney. But they won't

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Speaker 2: before we get into all that, because I know this

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Speaker 2: which real talk. You and I have known each other

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Speaker 2: for a long time. I'm gonna say twenty twenty. I

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Speaker 2: want to know what happened to us. The reason I'm

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Speaker 2: asking you that is because you know what happened. No,

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Speaker 2: don't know why you interrupted? Could you see? That's how

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Speaker 2: that's how. That's when people lie, That's how they do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we won a plane. Yeah, you sent me an

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Speaker 2: I could not make it. And when I could not

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being honest about it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being honest about Thank you Jesus for

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Speaker 1: what we leaves to other truth. Actually, actually we had

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Speaker 1: got scared because you know, you didn't want. You didn't

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Speaker 1: want because you brought up the fishing. I didn't break

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Speaker 1: yeah out there, jow you doing man, Man, love your

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Speaker 1: following your career. Man, he was the hell of a player.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations of everything the super Bowl? Man, how was it?

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Speaker 1: You know, we have a great conversation, got it? Hey,

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Speaker 1: you was courteous. I was receptive to courtesy. I thought

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Speaker 1: we good. Good, we were good. Call a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: Hey James, hey sharp man, how you do it? Man?

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Speaker 1: I'm good man, Glad you called? What's going on? Blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah, then had this fishing trip schedule. Okay. I

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Speaker 1: So what you know deep so? I said, hey, how

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Speaker 1: You're on short fish. You wanna go into the boat.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Hey man, I'm deep sea fishing. You

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Speaker 1: know group, Black Grouper, that's your thing. It is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. It is black group. Yeah yeah, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: you know black group. I can't drum sheep head, you know.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. I said, okay, bro, what all the

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Speaker 2: I'm a loner, I mean cause I mean personally not

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Speaker 2: when you hang out with regular folks and hang out

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Speaker 2: all right at that place right, and I ain't fronting

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Speaker 1: So you know, either you like me or you don't.

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Speaker 1: I ain't ain't, I ain't got time. And then you

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Speaker 1: change the number. Ooh lord, okay, that story you go

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Speaker 1: roll number. I tried to reach out to you. I

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Speaker 1: DM you several times. Fellow deaths. Yeah, but.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just wanted to know what happened. And to

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Speaker 2: the best of your recollection, Well.

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Speaker 1: Best my recollection is I get a invite, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to your inauguration Hall of Fame induct Yes, yep, you

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Speaker 1: were going in, Yes, And I was so overjoyed and

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Speaker 1: happy for you. I wanted to go. I could not

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Speaker 1: I had a contract. They wasn't trying to hear.

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Speaker 2: They weren't trying to let me out of a contract

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Speaker 2: at that time to go. I could have just said no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to. But other than just you, I

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Speaker 2: also have to think about my fans that paid them money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get that, so I have to go both ways.

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Speaker 2: I tried to get a hold of you. There was

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Speaker 2: It was you know, that one famous sound, one of them,

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Speaker 2: do all that. Soon as you hear you already know,

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Speaker 1: I started sending them folks look for you? What folk?

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Speaker 1: The folk to look for you?

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, bro, I was just wondering what happened,

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Speaker 2: And this is what I feel.

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Speaker 1: What true friends do.

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Speaker 2: They can talk and they can Sometimes people can't deal

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Speaker 1: It bothered me. Then people ask him. He's like man,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of time obvitually you know, club Sha share.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got triple on you? Triple you got all

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Speaker 1: the young young's in here working for you? Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this about Rodney. When did you

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Speaker 1: of your show because you mentioned the term. You say,

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Speaker 1: Rodney is not handicapped, he has a condition. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: We say, okay, he's he's challenged or now because the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we don't now I know, but I said it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, see this is what I mean. Okay, because

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Speaker 2: you changed a word, don't mean it's different. You get

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Speaker 2: But I figured I feel this is one of the

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Speaker 2: Well though, just you know, and I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: jump on you know all this, but why is a

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Speaker 2: young black guy that may commit a crime at seventeen

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Speaker 2: eighteen is still called a teenager?

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Speaker 1: Right? I don't get that.

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Speaker 2: I don't get that, and I will never get it,

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Speaker 2: and I won't be quiet about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay'bout Rodney. At what point in time, early in your

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Speaker 1: career you say, you know what, I will add him.

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Speaker 1: I'm will add him to the show.

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Speaker 2: Rodney has always been a part of the show from

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Speaker 2: When you entertain yourself, you see things that other people

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Speaker 1: you got a brother that's challenged. Do other people that

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Speaker 2: that because you, like I said, I my fun my

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Speaker 1: Very dysfunctional, right, very I don't even look like anybody

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Speaker 2: He told me, don't cry because I'll get my feelings.

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Speaker 1: I have a great partner man, my wife. Do you

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Speaker 1: how long were the last time you spoke? Almost four

431
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: years ago? Three to four years? Oh one, been about

432
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: eight years, three one, it's been about four years. It's

433
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: four years now, okay, maybe even five. Okay, you want

434
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: to discuss what caused this falling out.

435
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 2: One of my sisters is is kind of always been

436
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: there way, she had maybe some of the little mental

437
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: issues going on, and we just.

438
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: Weren't close even as growing up as yet, we just weren't.

439
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: We weren't close. And one time that she called me

440
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: one day kind of out the blue, stating that she

441
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: was getting ready to get you know, put out, and

442
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: I'm her brother, Are you calling me? So I fled

443
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 2: all the way to Kansas City, Missouri to help her.

444
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: I get there, I call her, no answer, texting her

445
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: no reply.

446
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: Let me get this straight up, sick. Your sister call you.

447
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: She's about to get evicted, put out, whatever the case

448
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: may be, from her home because of supposedly why they

449
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: were doing it was the wrong reason. So I wanted

450
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: to talk to.

451
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: I had my team because we were going to talk

452
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: for the landlord. Yeah yeah, And I kept texting her.

453
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: I done, flew from Atlanta to go Kansas City. You

454
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: ain't answer the phone.

455
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: Did you tell her you were coming? Yes? Okay, so

456
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: know she knows you're coming. Text her where are you at?

457
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: I'm here? No answer. I stayed through the whole weekend.

458
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: Monday morning.

459
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: I get home Monday afternoon, I get a text. Still

460
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: today I saw her name and that she had text me,

461
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: and then I saw this is all I saw. I

462
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 2: didn't when I said I didn't know as far as

463
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: I read.

464
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: So to this day, you still haven't read the rant

465
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: of the text. You want to know the truth? Yeah,

466
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: and please, my aunis forgive me. I don't give a.

467
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: Because you took my heart and you stomped on it.

468
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: How many times you're gonna stomp on my heart? I'm

469
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: there to help you. You had me fly there.

470
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: And and and please forgive me? Even even even even

471
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: Rod tells me, man, don't you think, well, you know,

472
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: maybe you should just try to talk. Why would I

473
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: try to talk and you haven't reached out.

474
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: You haven't reached out but that one text when I

475
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: got back, and you have not reached out to me.

476
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: Do you think she was embarrassed because she's having to

477
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: call to her brother and asked for a sisters? Do

478
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: you think there was a level of embarrassment? Do you

479
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: think you wasn't that You wasn't that embarrassed when you

480
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: asked me to help you. You wasn't embarrassed when I

481
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: told you I'm getting on a plane. You wasn't that

482
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: embarrassed and said, Okay, I'll be here, just call me

483
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: when you get in. You wasn't embarrassed, then we're bloodlined.

484
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be embarrassed now when you ask, when

485
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: you're asking a person for help, that person has reciprocated.

486
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: They say, I'm going to help you, but you know

487
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: where to be found. Where's the embarrassment? And I don't

488
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: even know why she didn't? And like I stated, she

489
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 2: may ask some mental issues going on, she's always been

490
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: that way. But you took me away from my family

491
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: to come and help you, and you didn't reciprocate to

492
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: me when I got there. You let me, You let

493
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: me stand out there when my ass opened out there

494
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: by myself looking for you. Do you think did it

495
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: ever occur to you she might have had an episode? No,

496
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: because that's not how it started. That's not how that

497
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: text even started. I didn't know, meaning I didn't know

498
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: you were coming. In the actuality, we had talked and

499
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: I told you I'm getting on the plane. I told

500
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: you I'm coming to help. Not only did talk, we

501
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: talked for three days before I came out there. And

502
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: that's not even the worst. The worst is the sister

503
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: now the youngest.

504
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Are you the oldest? I'm the oldest. Okay, my sister

505
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: is the youngest. Now my brother died, Okay, we'd Rodney, No,

506
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: that was man. Are you the oldest in the family. Yes, okay,

507
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: you're the oldest. Okay. He died by himself, meaning he

508
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: died alone. One my other brother before him died alone

509
00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: by himself hotel room. He was even burger king four

510
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: times a day. They said his arteries were so clogged

511
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: could barely see the bin rights. That's all he ate.

512
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: So when I say I come from a dysfunctional family,

513
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: I come from a very dysfunctional family. Were you guys

514
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: when you were growing up, when you were seven, ten, twelve, fifteen.

515
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: I had to take care of him. Oh do you

516
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: believe that view you as a father, father figure as

517
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: instead of a brother. I think that viewed me as

518
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: when I started becoming who I was, then I was

519
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: supposed to take care of everything. So they do.

520
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: My sister the youngest. When my brother died, we were

521
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: gonna cremate him because he had been in the hotel

522
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: room for so long and never checked on her. So

523
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: I was saying, okay, and she just kept directing, directing.

524
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: I said, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

525
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: this is how we need to do it. She kept

526
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: trying to chestise.

527
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: I said, oh whoa, whoa, back up, back up, hold on, Charlotte, hold.

528
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: Up, I'm the oldest here. She had the people had

529
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: the more, the people that do the death certificate. She said,

530
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: there's only one depicate death certificate to be done, and

531
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: it was to go to her only.

532
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: How does she get to make that decision, That's my point.

533
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: She thought that she was to take charge.

534
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: So I said, okay, I'm allow you to do this

535
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: because guests who had to pay the money for the

536
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: cremation and everything.

537
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: You see him in this room. Yeah, yeah, So it's

538
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: funny people that's going to do the least well, the

539
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: most responsible that part. You let her handle it though.

540
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: I let her handle it, okay.

541
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: But then she tried to chastise me, and I pumped

542
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: the brakes and I said, look here, and my fans see,

543
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: they don't see this side of me. This is what

544
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: I hold inside. That's why my fans are so important

545
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: to me. I get to release and make them laugh.

546
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: When I see them laugh, it turns me on. It

547
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 2: makes me feel better who I am because they are

548
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: that important to me. That's why I'm this long standing

549
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: in this business. Right now, my special air and I'm

550
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: gonna get back to this. My special aired eighteen days

551
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: ago now nineteen days something. On the fifth day of

552
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: us especially, I went to straight to YouTube that Netflix

553
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: turned down.

554
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: You think I was gonna crowd with that. I had

555
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: already done one on that fit, but you think I

556
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: was gonna crown that.

557
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Now I have full ownership at YouTube the fifth day,

558
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: and look and see how many people has done this.

559
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: The fifth day, I was at a million views in

560
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: five days at eighteen were not one point five something

561
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: in eighteen days.

562
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: Wow on YouTube? And you own it. By the way,

563
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: it's called Ernest j not gonna stop anyway, So I

564
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: own that.

565
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: Thank you Netflix. They're a great company. They're doing what

566
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: they're doing. But maybe my type of comedy way I

567
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: do it wasn't for them.

568
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: At that time. Who knows, you might come back. But

569
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: here's the thing with that, I do comedy for the people.

570
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of audience for my type of

571
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: comedy because I'm that clown. I've even had other comedians

572
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: called used to call me, tried to say I was

573
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: step and fetch it.

574
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: I I'm a clown.

575
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: I don't care that clown that got me a nice house,

576
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: nice nice way of life. Being that clown, Like I said,

577
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: that's my type of comedy.

578
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: But my sister tried to chastise me. And this is

579
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: when it blew up. And I probably shouldn't be saying this,

580
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: but I trust you.

581
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: I trust you people, and maybe it's something that I

582
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: need to get out, cause it's getting ready to come out, right.

583
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: I told her, I said, let me explain something to you.

584
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: When you were in college and you had these girls

585
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: who wanted to wanted to beat your ass cause you

586
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: was messing with one of the boyfriends that played football,

587
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: who came to your rescue. It wasn't mama, It wasn't daddy.

588
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: It was your big brother. To put the word out,

589
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: don't touch that one. When you needed money, who gave

590
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 2: it to you? It wasn't your mama, It wasn't your daddy,

591
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: It was your big brother. When you had your child

592
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: by this uh this dude, you needed money, who gave

593
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: it to you? It wasn't your mama, it wasn't your daddy.

594
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: But you gonna try to chastise me. And this is

595
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: exactly how I said it. I didn't thank you.

596
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: That boy's daddy's the one that laid with you, the

597
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: school teacher that you afraid to go get child support

598
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: from m But you getting mad at me because I'm

599
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: telling you what you need to do.

600
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: The only person you're hearting is my nephew and me.

601
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: These the only two people you're hurting. You're hurting us too.

602
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: But because you I'm not gonna be with him. Then

603
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: she put it out there on social media if my

604
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: brother died, it feels like I lost.

605
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: It feels like I'm so sad. I'm so depressed. I

606
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: lost my last brother. But you still, what did you

607
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: put yourself like with dad? I'm still Shannon. When she

608
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: said that, I said, you know what that it? So

609
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: let it be ridden. So let it be done. I

610
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: bet you you called me forever pick up a phone

611
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: to call you. So that means you haven't talked to

612
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: your nephew either. And I got a little video of

613
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: him that I look at all the time that I made.

614
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: I look at that video all the time. When you

615
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: talk to your wife about it, did she say arens Nope?

616
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: She might ride or die. Right, she know the situation

617
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: and she ain't the onely want to play with either though.

618
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: But you do realize arms that's you.

619
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: You.

620
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: You said earlier in the conversation that that's blood. So

621
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: what are you supposed to do with blood? When blood

622
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: through the blood?

623
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, sometimes and and and all all family

624
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: members ain't meant to be family. Sometimes the only thing

625
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: the only family is the bloodline. Because you have nothing.

626
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: This gout in my right. Yeah my rod manager, Roderick,

627
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: that's your left. But okay, oh yeah, well because I

628
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: guess because I use my Then I tell you how

629
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: smart it was. Don't know how to be don't know

630
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: how to be stupid? For a minute, well actually he does.

631
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: There you go, there, you go, there you I just say,

632
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying my mouth hit the floor and I

633
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: feel real. It's time, is what we I'm just saying.

634
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: Can I say this one thing that we early the conversation,

635
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: whoever the conversation we got to get like another. I

636
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: just it was gonna be quick. But okay, but you

637
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: was about to say, your role manager is more family

638
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: than my family family.

639
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: If I call him, he coming not because I pay

640
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: him because his heart's coming. His heart is in that car,

641
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: not his pocket pockets in that car. I'm gonna feel

642
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: you out. I'm a see for what you are. Then

643
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: I'll handle it accordingly. Accordingly. I don't have a lot

644
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: of people around me. Some of my best friends mainly

645
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: all fish, fish fish, love of fish.

646
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: My fans I give. I don't care if it's one

647
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: personality of this ten thousand. I give everything that I

648
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: got when I'm on that stage, everything I got, and

649
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: I've been doing that for thirty four thirty five years.

650
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: I refuse, refuse to let negativity win with me. I

651
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: was about to ask you, if you strike me as

652
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: a person, that I will not let whatever is going

653
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: along in my life personally affect impact what I have

654
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: to do profession When they told me my mama past,

655
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: guess what I was doing, I guess, take a while,

656
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: guess fishing. Nope, on the stage.

657
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: I was about to walk out on stage and I

658
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: got grabbed. Wait wait, wait, take this call. I'm getting

659
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: ready to go out.

660
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: They call my name. Sheik this call on as Mama's gone.

661
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: She didn't make it. Did a part of you like damn?

662
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: I get the best show I ever gave and in

663
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: my life because that's what your mom would have wanted

664
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: you to do, or you felt you was obligated. I

665
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: had energy you needed that, or that I needed that.

666
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: If I didn't have that, I would have broken apart.

667
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: When they told me my brother died. Guess where I

668
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: was on the air during the interview talking about molesting

669
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: that had happened to me, and I was getting a

670
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: lender to somebody else. My mama called me and told.

671
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Me my brother died. I crawled on my knees back

672
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: in the studio on my knees and got back on

673
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: that Michael phone. But when my mother died, that show

674
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: I had ever given in my life, I couldn't have

675
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: done nothing that would ever succeed that mm soon as

676
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: I got off the stage and she was in Orlando,

677
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: c oh, she was in Cassemi, I was in Miami.

678
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I jumped in a car.

679
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: I swear to god, I must have been hidding about

680
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: a hundred and ten all the way to Cassembie. Then

681
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: I said to myself later on why she gone?

682
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: You know, why? No? Why? Because that phone call did

683
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: not go out on that stage, But the energy from

684
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: that phone call, the grief I grieved. After I got

685
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: off that stage and wanted to get to her, is

686
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: that if I could save her? She was gone, Yeah,

687
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: my mom at one point hurt me at one time,

688
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: she said, cause I used to wonder, why do you

689
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: seem to treat the other kids differently than me? You

690
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: know what she told me? What she told you, cause

691
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't worry about you. I know you're gonna make it.

692
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: They need me. I think older kids get that a lot.

693
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: She said, I'm not worried about you. I I wanna

694
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: have to worry about you, But your brother and sisters,

695
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: those are the ones I gotta worry about. Made sense,

696
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: It made sense. But as a k I don't know

697
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: how old when you ask her this, or how old

698
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: you was when she told you this, But at the time,

699
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: you just wanted your mom to was like, no, that's

700
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: not the truth. Cause I love all y'all to say it,

701
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: even though it was. It was because you were raised

702
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: by your grandma. I absolutely was. And and I'm gonna

703
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: say this. People sometimes that are raised men, I'm gonna

704
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: say men, Yes, because I'm a man, You're a man. Correct.

705
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: Men that are sometimes raised by a grandmother sometimes suffer

706
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: trauma from the other side of the family that affects

707
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: him as they get older, and I think that kind

708
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: of happened be infested. Yeah, you have to you have

709
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: to adjust. And like I said, I'm not trying to

710
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: make this a down debbie conversation, but we speaking truth.

711
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: And I don't get to do this. I don't get

712
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: to to let my friends know who I am, right,

713
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: you know, I don't you know. I beat to the

714
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: beat of my own drums.

715
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: Is that why you Is that why you're so animated,

716
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: You're so hyped, you're sweating like a Baptist minister that revival.

717
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: Is that why you're so animated, You're so engaged with

718
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: your audience because all this trauma, all this stuff is

719
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: built up in your personal life, and now I get

720
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: to be the real RNFJ out here from the ten thousand,

721
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand people.

722
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: I think when I do that also that I think

723
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: that's part of it. Think there's a lot of part

724
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: of it, though, But I think I take on this

725
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: armor and I even tell my friends sometimes you.

726
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Here, you made it here. Now I got you. MM

727
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: release everything that's going on wrong with you, let it,

728
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: let it come into me. I got it. Got you,

729
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: then i'm'a turn it around, spend it out differently.

730
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: Because like Rod and I were talking, and we were talking,

731
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: I said, well, there's a lot of people that the

732
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: comedy world where I'm at, cause I can't say nothing

733
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: about the music world cause I'm not in the music.

734
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: Work, correct, But I'm in this comedy work. Yeah.

735
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: I've been there from the very early to the now.

736
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: The comedians nowadays, are they lazy?

737
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: I think some Internet has helped them be lazy. I

738
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: get that.

739
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 2: When we used to do comedy, you had to grab

740
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: jay grind to get three to five minutes.

741
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: I never That's why I know God has me in

742
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: different light, in a different way. I never.

743
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 2: Featured one time, meaning I featured one time in a club,

744
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 2: comedy club which is in Mobile, Alabama. I featured one time.

745
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: After that, I said, I'm not featuring for nobody else.

746
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: I'm the one that got myself into the clubs. A

747
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: lot of these cats nowadays, they can't really get themselves

748
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: in the club.

749
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: They need agents and management or whatever. I got myself

750
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: into a club, then I got management. This is a

751
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: cutthrow business. A lot of these comedians that are out

752
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: here and it's sad.

753
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: There's a lot of great comedians, but unfortunately somebody asked

754
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: me to do comedians one of other comedians that fell.

755
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: Hell, yes they do. I'm glad you brought that up,

756
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: because you know I had cat on here I do

757
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of that thing. The world know you

758
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: had him on that. But Jay people got mad at

759
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: me because they said I shouldn't allow him. I was like, wait, wait,

760
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: you shouldn't allow him to do what I shouldn't allow

761
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: him to say what he said about those comedians.

762
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: Why.

763
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: I was like, y'all make it seem like I knew

764
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: what he was gonna say.

765
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: Can we be honest? Yes, that was the best thing

766
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: that you did. It was monetarily also yes, So was

767
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: there a moral involved in that? I don't know, because

768
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't really know your life that right. What anybody

769
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: else might have done that same thing? Hell yeah, they

770
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: would have.

771
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: So you a lot of people, and I believe a

772
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: lot of people that was in the space that I

773
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: do do podcasting. I believe they got upset with me

774
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: because he didn't say what he said on their podcast.

775
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: He said it on mind and I got the benefit

776
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: from it. But there have been comedians that said, Oh,

777
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have said that, he should have checked them.

778
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, how do I and who are

779
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: those comedians that said I don't want to No, no, no,

780
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about them. But the reason

781
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: I asked you that because then I can give you

782
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: a revelation to that.

783
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: But I know because I think a lot of the

784
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: comedians were close to the comedians that he was talking about.

785
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: There lies in the problem.

786
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: There lies in the problem of I know Kat, I

787
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: know Kevin, I know Mike. Steve said, I know all

788
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: of them, but when they beef with each.

789
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Other, I know all them. I love this man here,

790
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: I love that man there, But I also know you

791
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: are what he said you are. You do what you

792
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: said he did. That's y'all's beef. That's not for me

793
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: to get involved. Do I want y'all to do it? No?

794
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: I do not. I do not want you to do it.

795
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: It's how you handle the diversity that's put upon you.

796
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do what you're gonna do, You're gonna

797
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: do what you're gonna.

798
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 2: Do, correct, but always expect something to come back, something

799
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: to come back. If you can expect it, then you

800
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: can sleep but if you get in shock mode, say

801
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: I can't believe this happened, you ain't gonna have no

802
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: good nicely.

803
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna have no good nicely. I think in

804
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: a large part because like you said, you can't speak

805
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: to the music industry because you're not in it. You

806
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: can't speak to say whatever else because you're not in it.

807
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: You're in the comedy space. So you knew a lot

808
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: of this. I don't believe the outside world knew a

809
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: lot of this and what Kat did because that didn't

810
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: cat peel back to cover and allow people that's not

811
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: in that comedy space to see that there's this animosity

812
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: going on. And a lot of people say, well, he

813
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that. He should have just gone to

814
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: the individual and whatever personal issue he might have had

815
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: with he should have addressed it.

816
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: That's what they're telling me. But I'm like, bro, why

817
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: everybody always needs to talk? Yeah, everybody always needs to

818
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: say something. Everybody always needs to offer that information where

819
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: they think how it shouldn't be. If y'all don't want this,

820
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: then stop watching social media, get rid of it. But

821
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: you want it because there's always some interesting on it. Yeah, yeah,

822
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: he did it on yo, sure correct, it was that time.

823
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I can't get mad at you.

824
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: I might even have it.

825
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: I may I may even have an opinion and say,

826
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: you know what, yeah, maybe you let him go a

827
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 2: bit too far. I could say that, But I can't

828
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: say that because then I wonder they said what what?

829
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: You know?

830
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: What? You know what? I can't saying what people do.

831
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have that's that word. I wouldn't have who

832
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: in the because I wouldn't have I know you did, right,

833
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: I know that five million went to somebody's pocket. I

834
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: know it didn't go to somebody else's pocket.

835
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: Right.

836
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 2: You know what a lot of comedians, hey, what when

837
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: somebody says, oh he's funny or she's funny, but.

838
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: They didn't mention their name. I got that too, They

839
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: didn't they didn't mention their name. You know what.

840
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: A comedian may say, Oh he's all right, but she's

841
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: all right. That's deep animosity.

842
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: Me. I don't watch other comedians really, nah, I don't

843
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: watch them. People.

844
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: At one time, long time, when I was gonna come in,

845
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: it mainly got a lot of la comments. You say,

846
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: oh he's still in material, God do it in front

847
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: of you, you know, and and then you have to

848
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: show them you're not the one to be played with,

849
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: right and being that, I was always kind of by myself,

850
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: but I walked by myself. I walked in the crowd

851
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: by myself. Somebody said, I don't man, somebody looking for

852
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: you really? So when I see them, I heard you

853
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 2: looking for me?

854
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: What up? Nah? Nah?

855
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: We were good, But it's just like it's just like

856
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 2: when you had, Oh, y'all, you doing something with y'all

857
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: and the brother was telling me he's gonna knock him

858
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: out of whatever the case may be. Y'all try to

859
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: demean o yall by saying he'll hurt you. But you

860
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: couldn't take Ojo's heart even though even though he may

861
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 2: think this brother might hurt me, Why no world would

862
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: he allow you to see that. Shannon, you're a big dude.

863
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: You're talking shit to me right now. You think I'm

864
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: gonna want out of this room. I'm gonna start taking

865
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: stuff off.

866
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do? They gonna take you a while

867
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: to get that off. No, No, I'm gonna leave his armor.

868
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: I might use this bitch. Did you see this rock? Oh?

869
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: And this beautiful I think it's beautiful. Yes, was made

870
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: by brother two brothers in Atlanta, Georgia. And that thing

871
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 2: is called uh Rod got the name for him. He's

872
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: gonna give it to me. They made this especially for me.

873
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: I told him I had this my watch on. I said,

874
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: I want to kind of go with the watch. Had

875
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 2: this done in three days?

876
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: And and what what's that? Uh?

877
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, John, Josh said. Josh said, seventy five. So in

878
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 2: case you want to he makes bracelets. Makes a change.

879
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: Good brother, yeah, chatty, but a good brother.

880
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. You want something big to be seen? Yeah? Yeah,

881
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: because everybody got muscles, everybody got these things he got.

882
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: I know you got little niggas in there, but that's

883
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: all right everybody. So when when you saw the cat video,

884
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: talk to me, what what did you do?

885
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: You like?

886
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: Oh? My goodness, oh cat di lect the cat one?

887
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: In my opinion? What yes? What what did you think?

888
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: Did you? I mean, did you really know it was

889
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: like this? Arness?

890
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 2: I know he lied when he said he was running

891
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: that foe too. I know he said he'd be he

892
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: can beat you. No, that's that's that's a triple lie.

893
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: Kevin Hartkat Williams and Arnaz Jay raced you doing the

894
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: show right. I think it was Cleveland. I can't remember.

895
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: You asked both of them who won you. I read Cat,

896
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: and I'm older than both of them. You out read

897
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: Cat and Kevin Hart. You don't want to mess with

898
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: that right there. You don't want to mess with that

899
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: cuz you don't want to mess with that. This is

900
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: slim Gym. You don't want to mess with the slim jym. See.

901
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: You have to realize, I ran track, I played baseball,

902
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 2: but that was I played for But I give a lesson.

903
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: If it was right before Jesus graduated, I still did it.

904
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: How do you know they didn't Cap cav went out

905
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: for the basketball team play a little ball. Yeah yeah,

906
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: but we're talking running. But you saw Cad, But you

907
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: saw Cat rated them jumpers. He was a leather shooter.

908
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: Rade them jumper freeze at the top of the keat

909
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: and you saw it. I got mine on film. You

910
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: saw it.

911
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: I got mine on film. I told this dude, get

912
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 2: it out the net before I shot it. Then I

913
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: shot one that was in there. Go why you moved

914
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: to the left up?

915
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: It's coming down this man. One thing I ain't gonna

916
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: do is lie well since you not gonna lie when

917
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: you heard him going in on certain people that he

918
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: was talking about. What is your opinion? What like you said,

919
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: what you're not gonna do is what he should have

920
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: done or what he shouldn't have done? What was your

921
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: opinion on the conversation he and I was having my

922
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: my my thing.

923
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: When I heard it, I said, okay, it's the can

924
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: is open now. But see, you have to realize with me,

925
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't get involved with that. See here here's the problem.

926
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people have a lot of comedians and

927
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: they coming too the game real young and stuff. I

928
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: mean I was younger stuff, but I was already married

929
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: with a child. I was already doing a man's life. Okay.

930
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: I didn't have a bunch of family that was like

931
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: like like like waynbrother, I didn't have all of that.

932
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: I have a big family like that. I had Arnest

933
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: J and who he's taken care of. My thing was

934
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: to take care, let me do my job and go home.

935
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: That I up sometimes you damn straight, I did, But

936
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 2: it happens.

937
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: It's how you deal with it.

938
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: No, I don't want no. No, I didn't click. I'm

939
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: not a clicker. I don't have time to click. I

940
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: have time to do a job and get it done.

941
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: People say, why don't you in more movies. There's a

942
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: lot of reasons why I'm not more movie. Some people

943
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: at one point, at one point said, well he can't act. Well,

944
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 2: I know that's a lie. Some of the best acting

945
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: is not acting, is being who you are. Correct, and

946
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: all this stuff doesn't happen now. Now the flowers are coming.

947
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: People call me the triple og and everything else, and

948
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: give me the respect. People Instagram and saying hey man,

949
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: I apologize for this. Back then once again, I'm not

950
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 2: the fire starter. If you respect me, I give you

951
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: the respect.

952
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: I go to battle for you. But you try to

953
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: demean me.

954
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: You can't demean something that God created that will not

955
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: be demeaned. You realize how many people and as well

956
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: as in your case, I want to see you not succeed. Yes,

957
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: that's why my specialist called not gonna stop. I'll probably

958
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 2: be telling jokes when I'm in my coffer.

959
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Something may happen, right,

960
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: I may turn a flip in that bad boy who knows.

961
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

962
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: But but what I'm saying in this business shinning. There's

963
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: so many people that want other people to fail that

964
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: they might have a chance to succeed.

965
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: Did you know it was like this when you got

966
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: into business? Was it always?

967
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: I started finding out? Yes, oh yes, especially when people

968
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: become territorial.

969
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: These people used to think la comics were the funniest

970
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: coments in the world, that it had to go through them.

971
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 2: What man, and tell you some story? Blow your mind?

972
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 2: Some of that stuff cat got ain't ain't shit?

973
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 4: What I what you got up?

974
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: No, it ain't rappened, but no, but I tell you what?

975
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: But hold on you and Ricky, somebody had an issue.

976
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: Y'all put it to y'all put it to bed. After

977
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: twenty years? How did y'all come to just like you

978
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: know what? Man? Come on, man, we grown, we got

979
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: grad How do you really want to ask that question?

980
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: Well, though, how I really want to ask ask? And

981
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: how you want to ask it? Don't sugarcoat what caused

982
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 2: the beef?

983
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: And then who? What idea? What it was to squash

984
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: the beef? Beef?

985
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: After twenty years, Well, Ricky can say I caused it,

986
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: and I'm damn gonna he caused it right. It started

987
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: out of Atlanta and that's when you should have asked

988
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: Kat and d L what happened. It was he got

989
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: a misunderstanding. But the problem that I had was you

990
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: have the misunderstanding, like you said, come to me right.

991
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: But he went to the black social media and said

992
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: I disrespected. And here's where the problem came at in

993
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Constitution. Here's what the problem came in at.

994
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: You didn't give me a chance to say nothing.

995
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: You know why. I was on the Tom Joiner cruise

996
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: where we both were supposed to be. He didn't come.

997
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: I went, I can't defend myself from on the ocean.

998
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: But they printed it anyway. But everybody know him, everybody know.

999
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: Me, so to say. And we were young.

1000
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: But still I was fine. I'm always fine. I'm only

1001
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: not fine until you come in my zone and you're

1002
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: coming with the wrong intentions.

1003
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: It was squashed because God says it was God said

1004
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: it was time. We were on a plane. You're both

1005
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: having to be on the plane. Check this out. We

1006
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: were both on the plane. I sat in the wrong seat.

1007
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: Look at him, won't he do it? Do it when

1008
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: he want him? And he ended up having to sit

1009
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: next to you. No, I sat in the wrong see yes.

1010
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: And then Ricky ended up sitting next to you right.

1011
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 2: Because I went to my seat and I sat down

1012
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: and I didn't even know it was him, and he

1013
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: turned and said, our ass. I don't know if it

1014
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: was nerves or if it was because I'm about to

1015
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: poke being projects.

1016
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: And you that close. We we laughed and I'm not

1017
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: going to sit up here. We laughed.

1018
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: We you know, I can call him, he can call me,

1019
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: but people have to real life. One thing about fans,

1020
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: fans aren't stupid, they really aren't. And my fans, I

1021
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: don't call fans and I apologize. My fans are fans.

1022
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about when I perform for them.

1023
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm performing for them. Yeah, you paid your money, but

1024
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm wish you get your money work. Whatever

1025
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: happened to you at your job, I got you today.

1026
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: You know you broke up with somebody. I got you today.

1027
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: I give man. Do you realize it's like a lot

1028
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: of people don't see me dressed like this. People know

1029
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: what I can dress. I wear certain things accordingly interesting.

1030
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:10,959
Speaker 2: I dressed to my own be yes, a little smart ass.

1031
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: I dress to the way that I feel. Yes, I

1032
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: feel like a black king right now. Yeah, I feel

1033
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: like a sugar booker right now.

1034
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like the pimp of the Slimps right now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

1035
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I just walked out of the sit

1036
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: down to the sixties right now. Yeah, I feel that.

1037
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: I feel that. I feel that. I mean, everybody can't

1038
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: wear golf gear and look like that everybody can't well, oh,

1039
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: golf gear. I bet I bet you ain't got one

1040
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: pair of loose underwear. I bet you all. I'm tight. Yeah,

1041
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still fairly young. I don't wear I

1042
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: wear box with the bed, but you know I don't

1043
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: wear boxes out in the streets neither. I wear tights.

1044
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, see, yeah, you allder than me. Yeah, but

1045
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's okay. I still beat your arm Russell,

1046
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: though that happened. Yeah, I could let me ask you

1047
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: a question.

1048
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: You.

1049
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: Joke telling. Let's go with jokes stealing first. Okay, where

1050
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: are you on jokes stealing? Because look, I've had a

1051
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: lot of comple like I said, you know, I've had

1052
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: a lot of comedians over here, and some says, okay,

1053
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: it's not is that your only joke is that the

1054
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: last joke you're gonna ever tell If it's not, it

1055
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't be that big of a deal. Some say, no,

1056
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: hell to the now, you ain't been to steal it

1057
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: and try to rearrange and make it this and say

1058
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: that when you know the premise of that joke, it's mine.

1059
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 1: So what are you asking me? I'm asking you where

1060
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: on you on this joke steal? I'm very agitated about

1061
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: joke stealing. Watch this. I know know you ain't putting

1062
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: the camera roder? How do I feel about joke stealing?

1063
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: You are? You are dead set against it? I took

1064
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: somebody out.

1065
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: I took somebody off my crew who I love because

1066
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: they did a joke that somebody did and they couldn't

1067
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: understand what.

1068
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: Was the problem. I said, I tell you what, You

1069
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: going to sit about a month, You come back, you

1070
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: keep looking at it, you shit about a month, then

1071
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: you come.

1072
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: Back to me, tell me what's going on. It is

1073
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: a must that you be original. It's as original as

1074
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: you can be. I'm not saying people don't sometimes have

1075
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: a concept. Yeah, because I mean because black people have

1076
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: every everybody black know about kool aid.

1077
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: Kool aid.

1078
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you only saying, but it's how you do it.

1079
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: You know when that you know when it belongs to

1080
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 2: somebody else.

1081
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: You do you know when it belongs to somebody whose

1082
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: No matter how all the excuse you you try to make,

1083
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: you know when it belongs to somebody else.

1084
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, you want to go, you think because you

1085
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: get a laugh for it. You don't look. The first

1086
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 2: thing I hate when a comedian says I've ripped it.

1087
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: I've never said that. I've never said that. I never

1088
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: said I ripped it. I never said I told a house.

1089
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: Now.

1090
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: I look at a comedy as a war. Sometime, I

1091
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 2: want you to be good. If I go behind you,

1092
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm coming with everything I got. If I go in

1093
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: front of you, stand by and be ready. So it

1094
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter what you go in the show.

1095
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: It does not because a lot of people say, well, Jay,

1096
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: you should have closed the show. That ain't That ain't

1097
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: for you.

1098
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: That's not for me to decide. What decides that is

1099
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: my contract. I go where I think the money is

1100
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: right for me. If you want me to close, I

1101
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with that.

1102
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: But you are going to pay me to be in

1103
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: that position because there's a lot that comes along with that. Okay,

1104
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: I see everybody's not a closer. I don't care how

1105
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: much television you got. These streets is war out here.

1106
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: When you can step on that stage, that's war. Oh,

1107
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: you lead that telligence, that television behind. I hope you

1108
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: ain't got in a car with you.

1109
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: Lead that television behind, because you know why you're leaving behind, because.

1110
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: That's what they say on TV. Now they're getting ready

1111
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: to see you live what you're gonna do. It's a

1112
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: big difference between performing in front of that tube at

1113
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: in front of them ten thousand.

1114
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 2: It's a big difference to perform in front of your

1115
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: family on the porch than it is when you're getting

1116
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: paid for it to do it professionally. Everybody's in the

1117
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: comedy game. Shouldn't be in a comedy game. Wow, everybody's

1118
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 2: in the comedy game. Should not be in a comedy game.

1119
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: Do your due diligence, serve yourself sweat. And I'm not

1120
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: saying any particular person.

1121
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying what it is. But when a comedian says

1122
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: to me, I ripped it, I just really okay. Because

1123
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: you've been at this thing thirty four thirty five years,

1124
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: you've seen the evolution of joke telling I have There

1125
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: are jokes that you could tell in nineteen ninety, nineteen

1126
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: ninety five, in two thousand, you can't do nothing. You

1127
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: better not touching twenty. But here's the thing. What's that?

1128
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: That's where the word relevance come? Man? Can you be relevant?

1129
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: Why do you think people won't let go of Rodney?

1130
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: Why do you think they won't let me allow him

1131
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: to rest in peace? Because he's evolution no matter if

1132
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:44,959
Speaker 2: it's back then of it now. They don't care about

1133
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. They just care about that it's

1134
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: Rodney right when you do like I said, I don't

1135
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: target people. I don't talk about a person's demise. If

1136
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 2: you are going to talk about murder debt, I don't

1137
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: talk about that. But if you're gonna do it, make

1138
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: sure you're ready for the response you're gonna get. Make

1139
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: sure you ready to do that like it's supposed to

1140
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: be told. Because you can make death funny, but don't

1141
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: go in there just because you don't seen it you

1142
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: automatically think, oh, this is what I'm gonna say, right,

1143
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 2: because it don't work that way.

1144
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: It don't work that way. How have Arna's j had

1145
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: to evolve because, like you said, there are some jokes

1146
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: that you could tell back then that you wouldn't say

1147
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: it that you brought the house down or you ripped it.

1148
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: So how have you had to evolve knowing that you know,

1149
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: you know joke even gay jokes. You like you made

1150
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: fun of gay manner rhythms. Not sure? Do you know why? Why?

1151
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: Because that's around me. I grew up with it. I'm

1152
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about people that are challenged. I grew

1153
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: up around it. It's in my family. It gives me

1154
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: the right right and my intimate personal knowledge about it,

1155
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: because you, like you said, you grew up around it.

1156
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: I grew around I saw it, my uncle, my uncle. Man.

1157
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I went back home one time, Florida.

1158
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: One of my cousins. I walked the living room. I

1159
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: asked my uncle find, I said.

1160
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: Uncle fine, I said, who? Who? Who's that girl in there?

1161
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: He just walked us a butt anger and and that's

1162
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 2: your cousin. I said, who, that's your cousin. I said, Oh,

1163
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: what son you think I got?

1164
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: That would be your cousin. I looked back a I said,

1165
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: he completely transgendered. Oak hmm. Think I wasn't gonna get

1166
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: it first, chair gonna get it, But I had to

1167
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: be around him to get it right. See, I don't,

1168
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I gotta be around it. So you don't

1169
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: make jokes about things that you have that you don't

1170
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: have an intimate a personal knowledge. Because I had Quake

1171
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: and had Bruce Bruce, two of my favorites. I saw

1172
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: them and I got to get to one of your shows.

1173
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 1: They said their job is to take real life events

1174
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: and make him funny. You being around that situation, you

1175
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: been around Rodney, You being around your cousin, your uncle Charlie,

1176
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: You around that, You saw that, you picked up on that.

1177
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: That's years and years. Everybody has a uncle Charlie. Everybody's

1178
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: black anyway.

1179
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, even somebody white may have an uncle child right

1180
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: always in Africa they where.

1181
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: That pans high. Yeah on purpose. So when you when

1182
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: you made the joke about your cousin, did he know

1183
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: you joking about him? Has he ever said anything about

1184
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: come on brother, let that go? He said, none of me.

1185
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: M hm.

1186
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 2: He's the one I talk about when he when he

1187
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: says something, always points to the left every time, never

1188
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 2: goes to the right. Hmmm, and looks you're dead in

1189
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: your face. You could be at the table eating what

1190
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: you what you say?

1191
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: African?

1192
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: A lot of Africans love me and I love them,

1193
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 2: but they're funny, right. African dudes lie all the time.

1194
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying all of it, but they're like, that

1195
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: was something about what they got. But you at tsa work?

1196
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: What did I say? So one? I have a dude,

1197
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: tell me.

1198
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 4: One time Scanner went up, he was like, come for,

1199
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 4: come for. You know it's cool, but you ain't got

1200
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 4: to talk to me like that. No, no, no, no,

1201
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 4: he said, buck a buckle, buckle buckle. I said, okay,

1202
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 4: he said, come up, come up. I said, man, you

1203
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,520
Speaker 4: don't got to do all that. Come forward, I'm the supervisor.

1204
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 4: I said, no, I'm not going to come forward. I

1205
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:51,719
Speaker 4: remember you. Oh he got mad about what he got mad.

1206
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: You do you ever get hate mail for doing a

1207
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: joke or talking about I don't look like you said

1208
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: you'd say, I don't know, you say your job, you're

1209
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 1: not trying.

1210
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: To do the mean or I got one one email

1211
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: that I know of in thirty five years, three years

1212
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: ago from a family that lived in Australia.

1213
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: Damn said we saw him and he wasn't who we

1214
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: thought he was. Where did they think you were? I

1215
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I have now maybe they I have now

1216
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: douting now down now shining. But let but other comedians.

1217
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: Because you did and you had the manner hythm down

1218
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 1: to a t, they thought you were gay?

1219
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: What they thought I was gaving before I was a comedian,

1220
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: before I was a comedian. Really, it's a funny story.

1221
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 2: And I hope, I hope you see this. You know

1222
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: I don't do names, right, comedian trying to get with

1223
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,600
Speaker 2: a girl that was just a good friend, right that

1224
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: we knew. I know he didn't do what I think,

1225
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: Yes he did. He didn't tell you, yes he did.

1226
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: In the word he used our nast Jamie. That's a

1227
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: friend of all here. That's why you gotta watch you.

1228
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: You run your mouth too.

1229
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: It's all here. He like he like, he like boys. Really,

1230
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: so this is why I say God is great.

1231
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 2: We were doing the show, oh in Philadelphia. I think

1232
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 2: we're at Tulane College. He just having to be on

1233
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 2: the show. Rod was in the room. He came in

1234
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: and the knock on the door.

1235
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: He like, ain't nothing like. He ain't saying ain't nothing like,

1236
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: he ain't saying what he's saying.

1237
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: He said, thank you Jesus. I ain't got to go

1238
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 2: to his room. I said, Rod, I need to step

1239
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: out for a minute. I need you to step out

1240
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: for a minute. So I looked at him, and I

1241
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: looked at him just like that.

1242
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: I sat out. He was like, where you are? He said, yeah, yeah,

1243
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: what's up? I said, I'll tell you what. We canna

1244
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: handle this one of two ways. But it's gonna get handled.

1245
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 1: We can talk about it like grown men, or we

1246
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: can go to the street. And I said, and you

1247
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: know me, you know I'm praying that you wanna go

1248
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: to the street with it. So I'm a fraid man.

1249
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: And he just knew, and he went what I said, what?

1250
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: Who's what? I'm afraid? I like, boys, Oh man, I

1251
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: was j you were just trying to know what I said.

1252
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: I'd been nothing but nice to you and your son

1253
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: ever mm But I tell you what, though, you needed

1254
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: to say that to a woman about another man, so

1255
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 1: you could think that was gonna get you somewhere or

1256
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: you just being hateful. I said, that's what little do

1257
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: are you? I said, I think so? Damn don't like that?

1258
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: I said, I think, So, what do you say? Cry.

1259
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, you did he cried on there.

1260
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he apologized. He you want to do

1261
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: like Hollow Knights. I want everything you took here to

1262
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: night and everything you took it all week. That's funny.

1263
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: That's funny to me. No, he not wanted to do

1264
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: nothing liberty. So he's wearing tennis shoes. So let ask

1265
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: your question after that point, did he ever say anything else? Here?

1266
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: Y'all cool?

1267
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 3: Now?

1268
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: No, we're not, because I mean we're cool, right, But

1269
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: I got the feeling he wasn't sincere that in the

1270
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: moment when the walls wearing on it, because I'm like why,

1271
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: And I even asked, why would you do something like that?

1272
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 4: What?

1273
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: What inspires you to do that? Brouh It's hard enough

1274
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: out here, but we banging on each other now a

1275
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: boy a brawl too, Yeah, and about a about a

1276
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: woman that you want to get with that you li

1277
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: had happened though it, jay I, in my life ain't

1278
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: never dogged another man to get out of a woman.

1279
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 2: Nope, Nope, it ain't. Yeah, nope, I'm typing of a dude.

1280
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: Back in the day, a woman looked at me like outside,

1281
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: I was like I'm side.

1282
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: I took it. My mama told my house Q too.

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01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: Don't know tell you no, she did, just like my cousin. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe in that. I don't believe

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: in that. That is a cold Yes, where it used

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01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: to be fact used to be. It used to be

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: used to be because and why did it change? When

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Speaker 1: did it change? Why is it changing? I have no idea.

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 1: Because even if even if a guy had a girl

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Speaker 1: and they're not together, and she come ask me, I

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: know you knew what I know. Oh, I know you

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: knew he had such and such. I don't know nothing.

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Speaker 1: First of all, bet, no female ever walk up a

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Speaker 1: man like that. Yeah, but they because they want you.

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01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: Because first of all, if that's my friend, that's my friend,

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01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: don't walk up on me and ask me something crazy.

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: Damn it. They already know. Don't ask me. I had homework, homework. Say,

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01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna even ask you, because

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: I already know you're gonna lie. I met him, I

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01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: met you through him, my Lord Tills aught to him. Yeah. Never,

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Speaker 1: I'm never gonne. I've never said anything. I say never,

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Speaker 1: and I hate saying never all or every got you.

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01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: I got you, but you not finna get me to

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01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: talk bad about somebody else just so I can get

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01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: in a favorable position with someone else. That ain't how

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Speaker 1: it work. Oh, I wish you had more time on

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Speaker 1: there listen boys, Oh but see young Young's I could

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Speaker 1: they doing that now? Though they'll do that. This concludes

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Speaker 1: the first half of my conversation. Part two is also

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Speaker 1: posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform

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Speaker 1: you just listen to part one on. Just simply go

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Speaker 1: back to Club Shashay profile and I'll see you there.