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Speaker 6: It is Friday, July twenty sixth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,
Speaker 6: episode number ten.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back, crew, I got my crew here.
Speaker 6: Brian brought us Ambergaria and the newest member of our show,
Speaker 6: mister Nick Harris. And great opportunity to have Nick introduce themselves.
Speaker 6: For folks that don't know obviously, you've been working with
Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys dot Com for quite a while now. But
Speaker 6: for those that may not be familiar with your work,
Speaker 6: tell them a little bit about what you do here
Speaker 6: and what you were doing before you got here.
Speaker 4: Just so people know your background.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll start with the context. I came here from
Speaker 3: the college football recruiting world. I worked in that space
Speaker 3: for about four to five years, working with Rivals twenty
Speaker 3: four to seven Sports, so reporting on a ton of
Speaker 3: college kids recruitments, and so that was my big thing.
Speaker 3: So whenever you see a kid that gets drafted on
Speaker 3: draft night, in the first round and he's a two star,
Speaker 3: you can come to me and be like, hey, you're dumb.
Speaker 3: So I I was the guy that was putting the
Speaker 3: stars on the kids for the kids in the region Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas,
Speaker 3: surrounding states. And then I had this wonderful opportunity to
Speaker 3: come to come work for Dallas Cowboys dot com. My
Speaker 3: first day on the site was the first day of
Speaker 3: the draft in twenty twenty three, and yeah, it's been
Speaker 3: it's been a lot of fun since then. Last season
Speaker 3: was my first full season and now my first full
Speaker 3: season with you guys.
Speaker 7: Come on, now, let's let's have some fun.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what a trusted source and now a
Speaker 8: veteran of the draft show. Yeah, really, really, I'm really
Speaker 8: excited about getting to work with you here, to work
Speaker 8: with everybody once again. But your knowledge of the draft
Speaker 8: and how you helped us those three nights was incredible, So,
Speaker 8: you know, thanks for all your hard work.
Speaker 9: I appreciate him, man, but we got to keep him
Speaker 9: ground that he's still a rookie on this show, so
Speaker 9: we gotta keep you know, your feet on the ground.
Speaker 9: You can't get to your head up there too big.
Speaker 9: But yes, he's done. You did a great job on
Speaker 9: the draft, very impressive work. So regardless of being a
Speaker 9: rookie here, we're happy to.
Speaker 10: Have you once again. What's your food order for? They
Speaker 10: got to get their wings.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about hazing pre show, so like, yeah,
Speaker 3: y'all find something for me to do.
Speaker 7: I don't mind, you know, I'll take the rookie bait.
Speaker 6: Well, for those that don't that didn't watch Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 6: Nick was on Talking Cowboys last year and had one
Speaker 6: of the best episodes maybe we've ever had across any
Speaker 6: of our podcasts when he decided he was going to
Speaker 6: eat something.
Speaker 4: I don't even what was it. It was something that
Speaker 4: was hot.
Speaker 3: Yes, I met Isaiah Standbeck and I made a bet
Speaker 3: that I unfortunately lost it, and I he had he
Speaker 3: got to pick whatever hot sauce that he could find
Speaker 3: that was the hottest and have me eat it live
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 7: And Uh, what people might not know about.
Speaker 3: That too is I was battling a lot of sinus
Speaker 3: at a congestion that week and everything, so I was
Speaker 3: more worried about, like my insides just emptying on camera.
Speaker 3: So I just completely forgot about the heat. It actually
Speaker 3: kind of psyched myself out and it worked out for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 6: That was one of the That was one of the
Speaker 6: funniest segments I've ever seen in Brian being on the fan. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you're no stranger to eating bad stuff. Just no, We're
Speaker 6: not going to do that on this show. I'm never
Speaker 6: going in on that. I'm not in on that.
Speaker 10: And I was wondering about that.
Speaker 8: We actually I did the hot Ones Challenge if you've
Speaker 8: seen it, Oh yeah, tox and stuff like that, and
Speaker 8: so instead I just skipped all the way to we
Speaker 8: would did eight, nine and ten Zach Wolchuck again, another
Speaker 8: Draft show vetteran. We just went ahead and did and
Speaker 8: found out that number nine of the Hot Ones Challenge
Speaker 8: is actually hotter than ten. So we did we took
Speaker 8: little bits of steak and kind of rubbed it around,
Speaker 8: and you talk about opening up. But yeah, if if
Speaker 8: you're if you're not used to doing things with heat,
Speaker 8: that could be a little a daunting task.
Speaker 6: I could do heat, it's all the other stuff start
Speaker 6: the other kind of stuff that I can't do it all.
Speaker 10: Right, here we go.
Speaker 4: Let's let's talk a little bit of training camp.
Speaker 6: This is day two, I guess, is what we'll call it,
Speaker 6: because day one yesterday was the first practice. We had
Speaker 6: the opening press conference yesterday, which is a little bit
Speaker 6: of a departure.
Speaker 4: Typically we do that the first day we get out here.
Speaker 6: But had some time with Jerry and Steven and a
Speaker 6: little bit of Mike McCarthy. I don't know, he didn't
Speaker 6: talk a lot during that press conference. But I want
Speaker 6: to go around here, give you guys each an opportunity
Speaker 6: just talk about one thing that stood out to you
Speaker 6: from the press conference that you think is worth noting.
Speaker 4: Let's talk with you Brian.
Speaker 8: Well, when I when I think about the press conference aspect,
Speaker 8: you know, Jerry and Steven, Mike they try to explain,
Speaker 8: you know, it's kind of a state of the Union thing,
Speaker 8: and there were a lot of questions about the contracts
Speaker 8: and things like that, and so you kind of you
Speaker 8: kind of trying and work your way through that and
Speaker 8: then but when then you get to the practice part,
Speaker 8: which we're all out here for, that's the most enjoyable
Speaker 8: thing to me. You know what said at press conferences,
Speaker 8: you can learn and gain things and understand a little
Speaker 8: bit better. But to me, when we have the practices
Speaker 8: and I just want to say what I saw just
Speaker 8: the first day of practice.
Speaker 10: We've talked about.
Speaker 8: Tolbert and Brooks, the second wide receiver, third wide receivers.
Speaker 8: I thought the wide receivers got off to a really
Speaker 8: good start yesterday with no CD Lamb on the practice field,
Speaker 8: but the competition at least day one, you know, the
Speaker 8: mental toughness, the ability to fight through things in day
Speaker 8: one of practice, you know, I.
Speaker 10: Thought with Tolbert and Brooks, both.
Speaker 8: Those guys coming back to the ball, both guys making
Speaker 8: quality of receptions, both guys running routes, I thought that
Speaker 8: that was a really good start. A lot of questions
Speaker 8: about Ceede Lamb not being out here, but the two
Speaker 8: receivers that were did a really nice job yesterday.
Speaker 9: Well, going back to what was talked about during the
Speaker 9: press conference, and you mentioned Cey Lamb and the whole
Speaker 9: conversation with the contracts and everything that's happening there. You know,
Speaker 9: maybe I'm reading too much into things, but I thought
Speaker 9: it was interesting to hear the different responses. Obviously very
Speaker 9: different situations versus City Lamb's contract and DACS. Sorry, City,
Speaker 9: He's still on that rookie contract, so it's different.
Speaker 4: I believe.
Speaker 9: My understanding is they could potentially even waive the fines
Speaker 9: or take care of the fines. It's different than Dak
Speaker 9: that would have to be the one pain and coming
Speaker 9: out of.
Speaker 4: His own neworking if he was missing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my point. He's he's been present
Speaker 9: all throughout the off season. He's been here since day one.
Speaker 9: He's shown up to everything that he has to show
Speaker 9: up for. But what I found interesting was some of
Speaker 9: the responses that I heard from Jerry Jones and even
Speaker 9: Dak when he spoke to the media as far as
Speaker 9: like where their situation is right now, that it could
Speaker 9: really go either way, Like they both want to stay together,
Speaker 9: Dyke wants to be here, they want to have Diyk
Speaker 9: as their quarterback, but at the same time they understand
Speaker 9: this is a business and it seems like they would
Speaker 9: both be in it could be potentially in a spot
Speaker 9: where they just part ways. Dyke looks for money and
Speaker 9: what he wants somewhere else. And then the Cowboys, Jerry
Speaker 9: Jones talked about how there are so many times in
Speaker 9: his life with the team where he would want something
Speaker 9: but they simply don't have the money. And this is
Speaker 9: a cap situation here. So just very curious to see
Speaker 9: how far or what's going to happen in the end
Speaker 9: of it, because right now when people ask me, Hey,
Speaker 9: what's really gonna happen, I really don't know. It could
Speaker 9: literally both go either way.
Speaker 4: And I want to clarify something real quick.
Speaker 6: You mentioned that Jerry said that about not having the
Speaker 6: money for and I saw some fans kind of being like.
Speaker 4: Wha wait, he's a billionaire.
Speaker 6: The thing you have to remember is when Jerry said
Speaker 6: something like that in the context of the Cowboys, it's
Speaker 6: not necessary about how much money he has in the bank.
Speaker 6: It's about the salary capras, Yeah, exactly, It's about.
Speaker 4: The salary cap.
Speaker 6: And so the NFL has structure in place to make
Speaker 6: sure teams have to stick within that salary cap and
Speaker 6: That's where it becomes a situation where you may want something,
Speaker 6: but there are always going to be salary cap ramifications
Speaker 6: that will to some degree, now there are ways to
Speaker 6: work around some things, but there's still gonna be some
Speaker 6: ramifications of the salary cap that you're gonna have to
Speaker 6: adhere to.
Speaker 9: Well, he said it before too, like, hey, if I
Speaker 9: could give my own money and put it on here,
Speaker 9: he would in a heartbeat, like just pay out of
Speaker 9: his own pocket. But obviously the NFL doesn't.
Speaker 8: Work, know what I and I think this and I'm
Speaker 8: looking forward to and hopefully we have Jerry Jones on
Speaker 8: one O five to three the Fan and get a
Speaker 8: chance to interview him.
Speaker 10: The question I want to ask is.
Speaker 8: If he had to go back in history, would he
Speaker 8: want to push for the salary cap the way he did?
Speaker 10: You know, he's an organized He.
Speaker 8: At the time was you know, thinking about the balance,
Speaker 8: the competitive balance of the league. And you look at
Speaker 8: him knowing the TV contracts, him knowing the salary cap.
Speaker 8: You know, he was one of the big proponents of that,
Speaker 8: of pushing for that and to try and help the
Speaker 8: Green Bays, the Cincinnatis, the team that might not have
Speaker 8: the spending power that the COB was trying to make
Speaker 8: everything more competitive, and so I wonder, now it's kind
Speaker 8: of something he pushed really hard for, which we loved
Speaker 8: the National Football League for that, for the competitor.
Speaker 10: The competitive balance.
Speaker 8: But I wondered, deep down inside, if there's a time
Speaker 8: it's like you know, like in Major League Baseball where
Speaker 8: you could just outspend somebody, Jerry Jones was kind of
Speaker 8: like push for something that's now a little bit something
Speaker 8: that's maybe hamstringing him a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you would think you and maybe have the
Speaker 3: foresight there understanding where his financial situation where it was
Speaker 3: at that time, what was that ninety six, ninety seven
Speaker 3: whatever salary caps started to get instituted, So you would
Speaker 3: think that he would have to understand the ramifications of
Speaker 3: potentially having that.
Speaker 7: But that is an interesting question.
Speaker 6: But when it's you would think that that also is
Speaker 6: why you would think he did it for the sake
Speaker 6: of the league.
Speaker 10: He didn't know, he wasn't.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's there's things that Jerry Jones has made these
Speaker 8: other owners billionaires, you know, they they like the.
Speaker 10: Brown family, the profit.
Speaker 8: Everybody that everybody that's involved in the National Football League.
Speaker 8: They were thinking about, oh, let's keep you know, NFL
Speaker 8: properties and let's do this, and Jerry's like, no, let's
Speaker 8: go out and see what we can sign deals American Express, Nike,
Speaker 8: things like that to generate money. Jerry's shown these other
Speaker 8: owners how to operate business. But he also was fair
Speaker 8: about the whole thing. With the salary cap, he could
Speaker 8: have completely outspent. You know, we looked unfortunately the Texas
Speaker 8: Rangers win the World Series last year, but then you
Speaker 8: look at the teams the Los Angeles Dodgers, the teams
Speaker 8: that have high dollar you know, high thresholds of being
Speaker 8: able to spend money, and sometimes it's not fair. But
Speaker 8: Jerry said, listen, I want to give Green Bay Cincinnati
Speaker 8: those opportunities to compete on the same level as the
Speaker 8: high dollar teams.
Speaker 7: Yeah. To your point about Deck's potential number and what.
Speaker 10: I think they're comfortable. I think both spots sides are comfortable.
Speaker 7: With what that number will be.
Speaker 8: No, maybe not with the number is, but that there
Speaker 8: could be a parting of the ways here.
Speaker 7: I see what you're thinking. Yeah, yeah, I understand.
Speaker 3: I told somebody yesterday this was before the press are
Speaker 3: Actually I was about seventy percent sure that I think
Speaker 3: Dak would be a cowboy in twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 3: think after yesterday, with that press availability and Dak talking
Speaker 3: as well, maybe that came down to like sixty five.
Speaker 10: So I it did drop though in your mind.
Speaker 3: It did drop, not significantly, but there was some There
Speaker 3: was some things said that make you kind of think
Speaker 3: about some things. But I think for me that the
Speaker 3: the two things that really stood out for me yesterday
Speaker 3: and the entire availabilities one Jerry Jones had mentioned, Hey,
Speaker 3: whenever we look at these three contracts talking about Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, Dak Prescott, CD, and Micah, they can they
Speaker 3: can keep those guys and extend those out with franchise
Speaker 3: tags for three more seasons if they wanted to. Now,
Speaker 3: obviously there would be a lot that goes in and
Speaker 3: gets involved with that. I mean, CD's already holding out
Speaker 3: and we're in year one of that potential a potential layout.
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott is a free agent next next offseason regardless, right, So,
Speaker 3: and Jerry mentioned that, and it makes me, it made
Speaker 3: me wonder, you know, we've been kind of been under
Speaker 3: the impression for the last two to three months as
Speaker 3: CD did not show up for rotas as he did
Speaker 3: not show up for Many Camp, that the order is
Speaker 3: going to be CD, Dak Micah right kind of makes
Speaker 3: you wonder if it even could be Dak CD Micah
Speaker 3: because they still need Dak's number to understand what they're
Speaker 3: gonna work with with CD and Micah. I mean, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, that's gonna be their biggest
Speaker 3: price tag, Like do you go and buy the house
Speaker 3: before you go and buy the car, or do you
Speaker 3: go and buy the furniture before you go and buy it?
Speaker 7: Like you you have to figure out.
Speaker 3: What you're gonna get your get your get your ducks
Speaker 3: in a row. And I think with that, Dak makes
Speaker 3: the most sense to get done first. But I don't know,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be a weird time. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: a really weird time. I think being here at training
Speaker 3: camp gives these two sides an opportunity to sit down
Speaker 3: a little bit more often.
Speaker 7: We saw it last year with Trayvon Diggs, Malie Cooker.
Speaker 3: Terrence Steele. All of those deals were able to get
Speaker 3: done around this time. So you know what kind of
Speaker 3: happens this time around? And then you worry about the
Speaker 3: next wave. And that was the second thing that kind
Speaker 3: of stood out to me, is, you know, we're talking
Speaker 3: so much about these big three whenever those are done.
Speaker 3: They were talking about DeMarcus Lawrence, Zach Martin if he
Speaker 3: decides to come back.
Speaker 7: Oh so, Diggyezua. You know, Deron Bland is coming around
Speaker 7: the corner too, that's gonna.
Speaker 3: Be a big contract. Smith Smith's coming up, Eyler Smith,
Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson, I mean, it never ends. Brandon Aubrey, I mean,
Speaker 3: we could throw him, but that's.
Speaker 4: That's the beauty of how well.
Speaker 8: They've draft drafted right, and and and to me, they've
Speaker 8: they've they've been a little bit unfortunate that the contracts
Speaker 8: haven't staggered. You know, they've all seemed to come at
Speaker 8: the same time. So that's a little bit of something
Speaker 8: they're working with this as well.
Speaker 6: What's forgotten is they've already paid Trayvon Diggs. So it's
Speaker 6: like that's another one that was just like a great
Speaker 6: draft pick. You got him in the second round. He
Speaker 6: turned out to be one of the better cornerbacks in
Speaker 6: the league. So I think I'll also throw this out.
Speaker 6: And as you guys were talking about what happened yesterday
Speaker 6: and kind of what we saw. One thing that was
Speaker 6: interesting to me, and I would be interested to see
Speaker 6: if you guys saw the same thing. But Dak has
Speaker 6: always been someone I thought handled himself really well with
Speaker 6: the media. Yesterday he felt it felt to me like
Speaker 6: he was even more I guess comfortable in his skin
Speaker 6: is how I would probably put it. He just felt very,
Speaker 6: very relaxed and very comfortable, and some of the things
Speaker 6: he was saying I think kind of made me think
Speaker 6: that even more. I think becoming a father, I know,
Speaker 6: sometimes it has a way of kind of clarifying life
Speaker 6: for you when you reach.
Speaker 4: That point, that stage of life.
Speaker 6: But I just think in general, he was talking about
Speaker 6: the business of the NFL, and I think he's really
Speaker 6: resigned to the fact of we'll just see where this goes,
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna play this year the very best I
Speaker 6: can play it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give my very best.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep trying to improve every single day, but
Speaker 6: I'm comfortable that whatever happens, I'm good with it, and
Speaker 6: I can move on and have a great rest of
Speaker 6: my career.
Speaker 4: In whatever way that that shows itself.
Speaker 8: Well, he's seeing quarterbacks around the league that he's better
Speaker 8: in than getting paid. You know, he sees there's going
Speaker 8: to be opportunities for him.
Speaker 9: He mentioned a couple of quarterbacks.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean all of a sudden, if you know,
Speaker 8: down in Jacksonville with Trevor Lawrence and guys like that,
Speaker 8: all of a sudden getting paid, you know, you got
Speaker 8: to feel like, Okay, play the game. Who would you
Speaker 8: rather have Trevor Lawrence or Dak Prescott? You know, And
Speaker 8: I think a lot of teams would say, we'll give me,
Speaker 8: give me Dak Prescott right now as my guys. So
Speaker 8: I think he has to be comfortable with that feeling
Speaker 8: and knowing that Todd France has done an incredible job
Speaker 8: of work. He's got Dak back to the table really quick. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know, and I kind of feel like if they
Speaker 8: did a deal done here, it might be getting back
Speaker 8: to the table quick again. You know, they've they've played
Speaker 8: this this very very well. But I also want to
Speaker 8: say this though, I kind of feel like if I
Speaker 8: was Steven Jones, I would say this to Dak Prescott.
Speaker 8: I would say, listen, you're gonna win this negotiation with us.
Speaker 8: How bad do you want to win?
Speaker 10: It.
Speaker 8: How bad do you want to And I don't know
Speaker 8: if it's possible, but I would have brought him in
Speaker 8: or have the opportunity they've Stephen even Steven Jones even
Speaker 8: talked about he's had communications with Dak. I would have
Speaker 8: thought about bringing him in and pointing out, like, listen,
Speaker 8: if you take sixty from us, this is what we're
Speaker 8: gonna look like. Just show him a presentation of what
Speaker 8: the team potentially can look like and kind of.
Speaker 10: Work down from that.
Speaker 8: But you're gonna tell him, hey, you're going to win
Speaker 8: this negotiations because we have no leverage on you. The
Speaker 8: only leverage we have is you want to potentially be here.
Speaker 8: That's the only leverage they have. So to me, I
Speaker 8: would walk him through what this team could look like
Speaker 8: at certain levels of this contract. If you want to
Speaker 8: give us a break, we might be a little bit
Speaker 8: better in the long run. He doesn't owe them anything,
Speaker 8: you know. It was Tank Lorence had said, Hey, that's
Speaker 8: not my problem, that's their problem. But at this point
Speaker 8: in time, you really want to try and partner with
Speaker 8: Dak here and say, Okay, you're gonna win this, but
Speaker 8: at what level do you want to really win this?
Speaker 8: You know, And I think that's something that you know,
Speaker 8: that maybe could open Dak's eyes a little bit to
Speaker 8: the situation that they're in.
Speaker 7: But I also think to that same point, he's gonna
Speaker 7: win wherever he goes.
Speaker 8: Sure, but if he wants to be here, I think
Speaker 8: you walk him through what that spreadsheet is gonna look like. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 8: we're gonna we're not gonna be able to You don't
Speaker 8: want to be throwing to guys like me out there,
Speaker 8: you know, you want to be throwing to Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 8: and and potentially.
Speaker 10: Whether it's Brooks or Tolbert or something you know.
Speaker 8: Or somebody we can go out and get, you know,
Speaker 8: I think, or Jake Ferguson for that matter. You know,
Speaker 8: do you you want to be throwing two others or
Speaker 8: do you want to throw to Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 10: Yet, that's how you got to kind of look at this.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: What was interesting for me one of the statements that
Speaker 6: Dak made We're going to take a break here in
Speaker 6: just a second. But one of the statements that Dak
Speaker 6: made that I think could complicate that that you were
Speaker 6: just mentioning, is he said at one point he said
Speaker 6: I feel like I have a responsibility to the other
Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the NFL and to other players in this
Speaker 6: locker room. And what that said to me is this
Speaker 6: contract is just as much about him getting paid as
Speaker 6: it is in setting the market for the guys that
Speaker 6: come after him, Right, And that's one of the things
Speaker 6: that you have to remember when you're talking about a
Speaker 6: salary cap. Every player should feel like, if they're thinking
Speaker 6: about it from a global standpoint, the higher they can
Speaker 6: push the number, that helps the next person behind them
Speaker 6: push the numbers even higher.
Speaker 4: That creates more opportunity for people.
Speaker 6: So if he's thinking about it like that, then on
Speaker 6: the one hand, he could be looking at it like
Speaker 6: you say, where there's an opportunity to maybe help the
Speaker 6: team out a little bit. But on the other side,
Speaker 6: he's like, you know, I have a responsibility to these
Speaker 6: other quarterbacks, and the more I can push that number,
Speaker 6: then the next quarterback that gets signed after me can
Speaker 6: push it even higher, and we all help one another
Speaker 6: to be able to raise that bar.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 8: What happened though, too If you look at the NFL
Speaker 8: draft and Sam Bradford was the last one. Remember, these
Speaker 8: quarterbacks got massive contracts without even playing it down and
Speaker 8: what did the league do about it? No slotting here
Speaker 8: we go. So, yeah, responsibility to the others, but also
Speaker 8: how about a responsibility to your team, you know? And
Speaker 8: that's that to me is I go back and look
Speaker 8: at to Tom Brady, you know, and Tom Brady was
Speaker 8: married to a lady who was a fifty million dollar
Speaker 8: year model, you know. So it's a little bit easier
Speaker 8: to do that when you have some security like that.
Speaker 8: But to me, I think you also Patrick mahomes Here's
Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomess won a couple of Super Bowls contract was
Speaker 8: a little bit responsible for trying to help the team
Speaker 8: along as well. So again it's just how much yeah,
Speaker 8: responsibility to other players, but how much of a responsibility
Speaker 8: to making sure that your team is the best around.
Speaker 9: Also, what Derek said about becoming a father, I think
Speaker 9: that really really changes your perspective on everything. I mean,
Speaker 9: my son is three years old, and now I see
Speaker 9: life completely different. I look for myself and my pocket
Speaker 9: and my money completely different than I did before. You
Speaker 9: both have kids in college, you know what that's like? Yeah,
Speaker 9: it is, but yeah, Derek, but my point is it's
Speaker 9: one of those things that, hey, why should I sacrifice
Speaker 9: my pocket to you know, help the team where I
Speaker 9: could potentially make so much more. Who's to say, I'm
Speaker 9: not going to get injured. Who's to say, you know,
Speaker 9: you don't know what's going to happen. So at the
Speaker 9: same time, I understand if he was, you know, if
Speaker 9: he does end up moving away from this, because at
Speaker 9: the end of the day, you got to look for
Speaker 9: what's going to benefit you the most. And I know
Speaker 9: that my son sounds selfish, but at this point in
Speaker 9: his career sometimes you do have to do what's best
Speaker 9: for your own business.
Speaker 8: No, there's no question, but you also, sixty million dollars
Speaker 8: a year is going to put a huge responsibility on him,
Speaker 8: and now it's not.
Speaker 10: And now it's not about it. It's about now, it's
Speaker 10: about you.
Speaker 8: And if you think the criticism on weekly shows on
Speaker 8: ESPN and national radio and all that is bad, now
Speaker 8: wait till you make sixty million dollars a year and
Speaker 8: you're playing with guys like me out here and it's
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Speaker 8: what gets wins here, that's what gets division wins. It
Speaker 8: just hasn't translated into playoff wins yet, but that responsibility
Speaker 8: soon he makes sixty million a year, now, that responsibility
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Speaker 7: Last season would have to be the standard.
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Speaker 4: What did you guys see yesterday?
Speaker 6: Brian, you gave us a good stude observation on the
Speaker 6: wide receivers, which, by the way, I love to see
Speaker 6: and I actually had the same observation.
Speaker 4: I think we all.
Speaker 10: Did good start for those two absolutely, and they need it.
Speaker 4: They need to start.
Speaker 6: They're going to get plenty of opportunities out here as
Speaker 6: long as CD Lamb is out. Let's go to you Amber.
Speaker 6: What's an observation that you saw yesterday a practice?
Speaker 9: Okay, So my top guy that caught my eye the
Speaker 9: most yesterday was Lance Trey Lance. He he when he
Speaker 9: was out there on the field, and he wasn't he
Speaker 9: didn't have like a perfect perfect practice. He made a
Speaker 9: couple of bath throws, but just in general, he's demeanor,
Speaker 9: he looks like a starter. Like his vibe and how
Speaker 9: he walks on the field. He had he looks very
Speaker 9: confident he looks like somebody who would have experienced somebody
Speaker 9: who's who's there and has everything on their control. So
Speaker 9: just his demeanor overall, very different from Cooper Rush. You
Speaker 9: know Cooper Rush. He's more like calm and just kind
Speaker 9: of he's not very out there his personality and how
Speaker 9: he leads when he's on the field. But there were
Speaker 9: a couple of times where I had to look twice
Speaker 9: and make sure that wasn't Dak as far as how
Speaker 9: he would carry himself.
Speaker 7: So for those that like to.
Speaker 9: Ask, hey, what about Lance and see a possibility, how's
Speaker 9: he looking? This is a very important year for him.
Speaker 9: I believe this is his last year on the contract,
Speaker 9: and the Cowboys do have to figure out what's gonna
Speaker 9: happen with him. This organization, everybody on their last year,
Speaker 9: everybody make it happen this year, you know.
Speaker 7: So we don't.
Speaker 9: We still don't know what's gonna happen with him. We
Speaker 9: don't know what's gonna happen with Dak and how that
Speaker 9: can play. Obviously, they they're gonna play into each other
Speaker 9: somehow while they're figure out, you know, if they're gonna
Speaker 9: try to keep developing him and give him a contract.
Speaker 9: But to me, he he looked pretty impressive on they
Speaker 9: one as far as like just doesn't look like someone
Speaker 9: that's completely new.
Speaker 6: I will throw out one thing before we go to
Speaker 6: Nick on Trey lance. For me, I'm gonna need to
Speaker 6: see a little more decisiveness and a little better accuracy
Speaker 6: and consistency in that right. I think yesterday, I see
Speaker 6: what you're talking about. There is a way that he
Speaker 6: carries himself that looks like Okay, I think he mentally is, yes,
Speaker 6: But from the standpoint of what I've seen him do
Speaker 6: on the field, that's why I got to see more
Speaker 6: of the decisiveness, that the accuracy, the consistency, those are
Speaker 6: things I think he's got to show out here at
Speaker 6: training campus.
Speaker 3: You could tell he wasn't confidence in San Francisco, because
Speaker 3: when he came into the building around this time last year,
Speaker 3: give or take a few weeks, you could see that
Speaker 3: confidence was shot.
Speaker 7: That confidence has slowly been building off the field over
Speaker 7: the course of.
Speaker 3: The last year, and I think that's been the big
Speaker 3: thing for him to focus on, is just being comfortable
Speaker 3: in who he is as as a player and as
Speaker 3: a guy in the locker room. Once again, and we're
Speaker 3: starting to see that now, like he's got some guys
Speaker 3: that he relies upon in the locker room, that he
Speaker 3: relies upon whenever he's working with the second and third team.
Speaker 3: But I need that confidence to translate between the lines,
Speaker 3: and I didn't quite see that yesterday. I had mentioned
Speaker 3: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com yesterday that you know, he
Speaker 3: struggled pushing the ball down field.
Speaker 7: He hesitated to do that. Most of his stuff was just.
Speaker 3: Checked downs five yards and in between and Cooper Rush.
Speaker 3: He had a couple of arrant throws too. I said,
Speaker 3: the slightly advantage would go to Rush for me today,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't in particularly winning fashion.
Speaker 7: So that was my initial standout.
Speaker 3: And then also looking at Cooper BB, you know, this
Speaker 3: is a very interesting center battle.
Speaker 7: I think it's I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Way more interesting than people may realize, just because of
Speaker 3: the work that brock Hoffman has been putting in to
Speaker 3: potentially be that starter. Also given the context of brock
Speaker 3: Hoffman coming in and starting two games last year and
Speaker 3: playing really well in those two games.
Speaker 7: But Cooper Beb coming in.
Speaker 3: With all of this knowledge, all of this, all of
Speaker 3: these knacks to be an interior offensive lineman but also
Speaker 3: playing a new position. BB really struggled with the shotgun snapping.
Speaker 3: It was it was, it was really tough. But I
Speaker 3: think whenever you kind of get used to seeing him
Speaker 3: at camp and he gets a preseason game under his belt,
Speaker 3: I'll be really excited to see what this battle looks
Speaker 3: like after the RAMS game, because I think it's gonna
Speaker 3: be really fascinating.
Speaker 4: Did I see this right? It was TJ Bass also
Speaker 4: taking some rep yesterday.
Speaker 7: So he's technically that mix as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought so, which is which is also an
Speaker 3: interesting layer to this entire deal because there's technically four
Speaker 3: guys competing for the starting center spot. It's Brock Hoffman,
Speaker 3: Cooper Bebe, Uh, TJ. Bass, and Dakota Shepley, And so
Speaker 3: all four of those guys are gonna get reps, They're
Speaker 3: going to get opportunities not only here in a Star
Speaker 3: but in the preseason as well. I think ultimately it
Speaker 3: does come down to Hoffman and Bebe, and I think
Speaker 3: Bass is a guy that like, hey, we're gonna get
Speaker 3: you as many reps as we can in case injury
Speaker 3: does pop up.
Speaker 7: We want you to know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: But I think he's the right guard of the future,
Speaker 3: and I think they're banking on that to happen whenever
Speaker 3: Zach Martin does decide to call it a career over
Speaker 3: being the size to to leave the right guard of
Speaker 3: the future over BB I believe.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 3: I mean again, you would have to kind of understand
Speaker 3: what would happen after training camp here, because if Hoffman
Speaker 3: does win that center job, then yeah, you're right, that
Speaker 3: is a right guard battle whenever Zach Martin decides to decides.
Speaker 7: To depart Dallas. So it's a it's it's a good
Speaker 7: problem to have.
Speaker 3: They they're starting to have a lot of depth there
Speaker 3: in the interior offensive line that they can play with.
Speaker 3: How strong will that depth be? That's what these four
Speaker 3: weeks are gonna tell us.
Speaker 8: I think we all need to keep an eye on
Speaker 8: what's going on. I think the best part of this
Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys offensive line is their interior guys. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 8: And I think what you need to keep an eye
Speaker 8: on is how that plays out and if they all
Speaker 8: look very very competitive and either anybody could start because
Speaker 8: if something were to happen with Geidon, say at left tackle,
Speaker 8: or they were not totally you know, Chumadoga is the
Speaker 8: left tackle right now. As we drill. As we drill,
Speaker 8: I mean, we'll have a lot of practices out here
Speaker 8: and stuff, but I would keep an eye on that
Speaker 8: because to me, the fallback, fallback position is Tyler Smith
Speaker 8: moves to left tackle and now you put one of
Speaker 8: those the BB, the bass somebody in there at the
Speaker 8: left guard spot, and then you go to battle that way.
Speaker 8: So a lot going on with that group.
Speaker 3: There's a zero percent chance that if Tyler Geiden is
Speaker 3: not ready to go by week one in the coach
Speaker 3: size that they are playing sho.
Speaker 8: I just to me, this is where this is where
Speaker 8: I go back to my days of working in player
Speaker 8: personnel and that with coaches and sometimes and especially in
Speaker 8: this organization, the coaches are looked at as okay, let's
Speaker 8: take their word for it.
Speaker 10: Let's you know.
Speaker 8: And so now you're thinking, I was thinking, okay, I'm
Speaker 8: okay with brock Hoffman. I get that. I understand what's
Speaker 8: going on there. But you drafted Geyton with the reason
Speaker 8: for a purpose. You know, you you addressed that, you said, hey,
Speaker 8: this is our guy. So if Mike Solari all of
Speaker 8: a sudden gets away with playing with Chumadoga at left tackle.
Speaker 8: It's gonna make me in the personnel department question, Okay,
Speaker 8: why did we do this? Why didn't we take Barton
Speaker 8: the center from Duke or some other thing that if
Speaker 8: you're not if you're going to just go ahead and
Speaker 8: play that guy then But I think that I think
Speaker 8: that it Geydon has to show that he can't do it.
Speaker 8: You know, initially, I think there's going to be a
Speaker 8: learning curve there, just how steepable learning curve we were
Speaker 8: about to see.
Speaker 3: And I don't want it to be a dunk on
Speaker 3: chumwaydoga either. No No, always said I think he's a
Speaker 3: better interier.
Speaker 8: But they addressed it. They addressed it. They drafted a
Speaker 8: tackle that's purely yeah.
Speaker 10: I feel there.
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Speaker 6: When we come back, we're gonna get into some storylines
Speaker 6: and we're this is actually gonna span this show and
Speaker 6: the next show. I just want to run through all
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Speaker 6: We got a final segment here on the Break live
Speaker 6: from Oxendak, California, and let's get into some storylines. I
Speaker 6: think the biggest storyline that we all can agree is
Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb and his absence.
Speaker 4: Here at training camp.
Speaker 6: The question after you, guys, is how much do you
Speaker 6: think this sets him back? He obviously is a veteran player,
Speaker 6: but there is also even with veteran players, there is
Speaker 6: the timing aspect you want to be able to kind
Speaker 6: of work back up between the quarterback and the receivers.
Speaker 6: How much does do you think this sets him back?
Speaker 3: I think this is an interesting one just because I'm
Speaker 3: kind of on both sides of the corn here. Initially,
Speaker 3: whenever I asked this question around Ota Mini Camp time.
Speaker 3: I look at it and I see, Okay, there's still
Speaker 3: opportunities for Dak and CD to.
Speaker 7: Get together off the field, whether it be.
Speaker 3: At Dak's home, at a random training facility away from
Speaker 3: campus and kind of be able to still get that
Speaker 3: rhythm down, still be able to find that connection between
Speaker 3: the two before they get out to Oxnard or before
Speaker 3: it's just Dak that gets out to Oxnard. But we
Speaker 3: hear Dak and he's talking yesterday, and he took that
Speaker 3: trip with the receivers and tight ends and running backs
Speaker 3: that he does every single year, and this year all
Speaker 3: quarterbacks came too, so it was Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.
Speaker 3: They all eighteen of them went up to Portland, Oregon
Speaker 3: trained at the Nike campus for three days and they
Speaker 3: were able to get a lot of really good work
Speaker 3: in and you could really see that translate onto the
Speaker 3: field last year whenever they did that trip, and you're
Speaker 3: starting to see that early on here as well.
Speaker 7: Ceede Lamb wasn't at that trip, So I think that's
Speaker 7: I think that's.
Speaker 3: A little bit of an interesting tidbit because how much
Speaker 3: will Seedy have to catch up when he does get here,
Speaker 3: because that will have to happen. There will be a
Speaker 3: ramp up phase for him, whether he starts tomorrow or
Speaker 3: he starts in week one practicing. And we saw it
Speaker 3: a little bit with Zach Martin whenever he got integrated
Speaker 3: in Oxnard last year. So I think concern level, I'd
Speaker 3: put it at maybe like a three to four out
Speaker 3: of ten. But I still think it is there, and
Speaker 3: you still have to build that connection. You have to
Speaker 3: build that rhythm with your quarterback. But granted, I think
Speaker 3: the pros and the positives are he's coming off the
Speaker 3: best season in franchise history for a wide receiver, his
Speaker 3: quarterback was second in MVP voting last year, and those
Speaker 3: two have played together for what is it now, three
Speaker 3: four seasons, So I think I think building that connection
Speaker 3: over time is really it will allow it to be
Speaker 3: a lot more seamless than it has been in recent years.
Speaker 3: And aside from this leaf flower over here, I think
Speaker 3: they'll be fine whenever they get going the show.
Speaker 10: Yeah exactly, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 9: Well, I was gonna say I tend to be a
Speaker 9: little extremist, if that's the right word extreme. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 9: in the same family. Yea, But yeah, I tend to
Speaker 9: be exaggerate those things a little bit because we've seen
Speaker 9: it before where you don't have the same type of
Speaker 9: it takes a while, where we've seen games, Sorry, I
Speaker 9: got completely distracted. We've seen games where it took them
Speaker 9: a while to get in sync, and we've seen that
Speaker 9: to be a problem before. And this is no, I'm
Speaker 9: not saying anything bad about CD. I think he's he's
Speaker 9: still preparing, he's still practice practicing, We are doing his
Speaker 9: own workouts. We heard Dik talk about him not being
Speaker 9: a problem and he's gonna be okay. We heard Brendan
Speaker 9: Cooks he mentioned him as well, saying, hey, he's doing
Speaker 9: everything he needs to do at this moment to stay
Speaker 9: in track and be ready to go as soon as
Speaker 9: he comes here. But how many times have we seen
Speaker 9: it in games where the receivers in DC are kind
Speaker 9: of not in sync, And how I don't have time
Speaker 9: to wait week one, week two, week three, we four
Speaker 9: for them to get going. I need them to get
Speaker 9: going right away. And this is not a sach Martin situation.
Speaker 9: Very different position, very different experience, all of that. So
Speaker 9: I think it is extremely important for him to be
Speaker 9: here now However, at the same time, just like you
Speaker 9: mentioned those other younger wide receivers, great to see them
Speaker 9: getting those extra reps and being able to kind of
Speaker 9: keep growing as opposed to you know, CD, that takes
Speaker 9: away a little bit from their own time out here.
Speaker 9: But I do think it's very important for him not
Speaker 9: to be here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, training camp, this is a lot different than working
Speaker 8: in Houston, you know. And and but you Nick was
Speaker 8: talking about, you know, throwing in the dockyard and all
Speaker 8: that stuff that they've done, and I don't ever worry
Speaker 8: about that part. I think they have an understanding of
Speaker 8: of you know, being together long enough that where somebody
Speaker 8: is going to be where they're you know, the routes
Speaker 8: are going to end and all that. I just worry
Speaker 8: about the all of a sudden, if safety misses the
Speaker 8: first week of camp and then they do get it done,
Speaker 8: now you're behind that way. Just from the conditioning aspect,
Speaker 8: and see Lamb is a very well conditioned athlete. But
Speaker 8: training camp running is different than running in Houston or
Speaker 8: Frisco or wherever else. That just the practice pace is different,
Speaker 8: and you always worry about, Yeah, you worry about the
Speaker 8: soft tissue things, and this organization has had a little
Speaker 8: bit of a history history at times where you know,
Speaker 8: people come in and then all of a sudden you
Speaker 8: get those soft tissue injuries, and then now you're set back.
Speaker 8: But and then if you miss ten days, now you're
Speaker 8: closer to the season. And now if you're hurt, then
Speaker 8: there's questions about will you be ready against Week one
Speaker 8: against the Browns. Yeah, those are the only things that
Speaker 8: I worry about.
Speaker 6: Do you think it should affect negotiations? Knowing that this
Speaker 6: is such a and I hesitate to use this term,
Speaker 6: but an all in season. And what I mean by
Speaker 6: that is like, literally, there are a bunch of people
Speaker 6: around here, players, coaches who this is the last who
Speaker 6: rat like they don't have future deals. This is like,
Speaker 6: let's see what this year becomes with all that on
Speaker 6: the line. Do you think that should affect negotiations from
Speaker 6: the standpoint of the Cowboys point of view, to say, hey,
Speaker 6: maybe we got to give a little more to go
Speaker 6: ahead and get this done knowing so much as riding
Speaker 6: on it.
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know how you guys feel about it,
Speaker 8: but Jerry Jones was talking about seeing more.
Speaker 10: Leaves off the tree.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you have an understanding of some of
Speaker 8: these deals that have already been done, and so you
Speaker 8: have an idea play the game of where does Ceedee
Speaker 8: Lamb fit in the receivers that have been extended or
Speaker 8: the receivers that are trying to get extended, And so
Speaker 8: that's where to me, that's where that number comes into.
Speaker 8: I was talking to somebody in the league, another cap guy,
Speaker 8: and usually it's like, oh, well the Hills contract is
Speaker 8: they say it's thirty million dollars.
Speaker 10: Well, in actuality, it's really twenty seven to five, you know.
Speaker 10: And then Adams.
Speaker 8: Contract is actually twenty four or five. You know, it's
Speaker 8: not a thirty million dollar deal. But then I asked
Speaker 8: about the Jefferson contract and they're like, no, that's a
Speaker 8: thirty five million dollar contract.
Speaker 10: Straight up.
Speaker 8: It's a straight up thirty five million dollar contract. So
Speaker 8: to me, if you have an understanding or an idea
Speaker 8: of where these numbers are going to fall, then I've
Speaker 8: always found this with Steven Jones, if you don't try
Speaker 8: and reset the market with him, he'll deal with you.
Speaker 8: He'll deal with you in a way of like Okay,
Speaker 8: come in right under this number. You know, if I'm
Speaker 8: not resetting the market then, and I think that's where
Speaker 8: maybe Lamb and his group needs to think about. Don't
Speaker 8: think about the Jefferson number. Think maybe at or slightly
Speaker 8: below that number, and if you're satisfied with that, then
Speaker 8: you're good to go. And I think they would deal
Speaker 8: with you on that way.
Speaker 3: I think from my understanding looking at the negotiations and
Speaker 3: just kind of how things have played out, I see
Speaker 3: CD Lamb and his representation being.
Speaker 7: Comfortable being under that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 3: I think the semantics are gonna come in the length
Speaker 3: of the deal and the guaranteed money. I think that's
Speaker 3: where you're gonna have all these conversations back and forth.
Speaker 3: Stephen Jones said in his walk off yesterday that they
Speaker 3: have exchanged numerous.
Speaker 7: Deals with CD Lamb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're going through the very minute details of
Speaker 3: this entire thing.
Speaker 7: I think the per year I don't think that.
Speaker 3: I think maybe there's a little bit too much importance
Speaker 3: being put on that, right. I think it's the length
Speaker 3: and the guaranteed money, because both of those two things
Speaker 3: they can make him the quote unquote highest paid, just
Speaker 3: depending on how you look at it.
Speaker 6: But to that point, was it interesting that you guys
Speaker 6: that Steven mentioned yesterday in the press conference that talking
Speaker 6: about him and Micah both want to be the highest
Speaker 6: paid non quarterbacks in the.
Speaker 4: League, which kind of it jumped out to.
Speaker 6: Me because I never I wouldn't have thought that that
Speaker 6: necessarily CD and his representation would be looking for highest
Speaker 6: paid on quarterback in the league kind of money, or
Speaker 6: wide receiver even kind of money. But according to Steven,
Speaker 6: maybe that is what what might be a part of
Speaker 6: this equation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 3: It's a fascinating ordeal because what what does that mean
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, Because there's three different
Speaker 3: markers you can look at. You can look at the
Speaker 3: annual contract value, you can look at the guaranteed money,
Speaker 3: total money, you can look at a bunch of things,
Speaker 3: and especially once you crack it down with state taxes
Speaker 3: and things like that, they can make the negotiation fib
Speaker 3: a little bit and be like, hey, this is the
Speaker 3: highest paying on our highest paid non quarterback contract in
Speaker 3: the league, even though ESPN might not say it.
Speaker 6: So, all right, that's a wrap for us. We'll be
Speaker 6: back on next Tuesday. It was next Tuesday. We only
Speaker 6: got to one storyline and we got plenty more to
Speaker 6: get to.
Speaker 3: So it's fun when you're having fun. It's short when
Speaker 3: you're having fun because I'm around.
Speaker 4: Come on, welcome to the show. Nick. It was a
Speaker 4: good first year.
Speaker 10: I'll work on that read for you guys next time.
Speaker 4: It was just the first one. Brian, we got time,
Speaker 4: we got.
Speaker 10: There's a lot going on here with that Reid.
Speaker 4: We got about to figure out. All right. We'll be
Speaker 4: back with you guys next Tuesday. Till then.
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