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Speaker 1: Were on with Ambar Garcia. Brian brought us Nick Harris

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Speaker 6: It is Friday, July twenty sixth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 6: episode number ten.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, crew, I got my crew here.

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Speaker 6: Brian brought us Ambergaria and the newest member of our show,

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Speaker 6: mister Nick Harris. And great opportunity to have Nick introduce themselves.

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Speaker 6: For folks that don't know obviously, you've been working with

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Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys dot Com for quite a while now. But

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Speaker 6: for those that may not be familiar with your work,

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Speaker 6: tell them a little bit about what you do here

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Speaker 6: and what you were doing before you got here.

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Speaker 4: Just so people know your background.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll start with the context. I came here from

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Speaker 3: the college football recruiting world. I worked in that space

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Speaker 3: for about four to five years, working with Rivals twenty

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Speaker 3: four to seven Sports, so reporting on a ton of

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Speaker 3: college kids recruitments, and so that was my big thing.

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Speaker 3: So whenever you see a kid that gets drafted on

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Speaker 3: draft night, in the first round and he's a two star,

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Speaker 3: you can come to me and be like, hey, you're dumb.

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Speaker 3: So I I was the guy that was putting the

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Speaker 3: stars on the kids for the kids in the region Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas,

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Speaker 3: surrounding states. And then I had this wonderful opportunity to

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Speaker 3: come to come work for Dallas Cowboys dot com. My

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Speaker 3: first day on the site was the first day of

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Speaker 3: the draft in twenty twenty three, and yeah, it's been

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Speaker 3: it's been a lot of fun since then. Last season

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Speaker 7: Come on, now, let's let's have some fun.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what a trusted source and now a

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Speaker 8: veteran of the draft show. Yeah, really, really, I'm really

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Speaker 8: excited about getting to work with you here, to work

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Speaker 8: with everybody once again. But your knowledge of the draft

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Speaker 8: and how you helped us those three nights was incredible, So,

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Speaker 8: you know, thanks for all your hard work.

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Speaker 9: I appreciate him, man, but we got to keep him

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Speaker 9: ground that he's still a rookie on this show, so

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Speaker 9: we gotta keep you know, your feet on the ground.

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Speaker 9: You can't get to your head up there too big.

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Speaker 9: But yes, he's done. You did a great job on

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Speaker 9: the draft, very impressive work. So regardless of being a

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Speaker 10: Have you once again. What's your food order for? They

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Speaker 10: got to get their wings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about hazing pre show, so like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I don't mind, you know, I'll take the rookie bait.

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Speaker 6: Well, for those that don't that didn't watch Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 6: Nick was on Talking Cowboys last year and had one

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Speaker 7: And Uh, what people might not know about.

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Speaker 3: That too is I was battling a lot of sinus

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Speaker 4: Typically we do that the first day we get out here.

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Speaker 8: Well, when I when I think about the press conference aspect,

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Speaker 10: We've talked about.

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Speaker 9: He's shown up to everything that he has to show

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Speaker 6: The thing you have to remember is when Jerry said

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Speaker 6: That's where it becomes a situation where you may want something,

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Speaker 9: Well, he said it before too, like, hey, if I

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Speaker 10: The question I want to ask is.

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Speaker 8: If he had to go back in history, would he

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Speaker 10: You know, he's an organized He.

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Speaker 8: At the time was you know, thinking about the balance,

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Speaker 10: The competitive balance.

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Speaker 8: But I wondered, deep down inside, if there's a time

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Speaker 7: Like you you have to figure out.

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Speaker 3: What you're gonna get your get your get your ducks

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Speaker 7: Oh so, Diggyezua. You know, Deron Bland is coming around

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Speaker 4: That's the beauty of how well.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna give my very best.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep trying to improve every single day, but

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Speaker 4: In whatever way that that shows itself.

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Speaker 8: Well, he's seeing quarterbacks around the league that he's better

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Speaker 8: I would say, listen, you're gonna win this negotiation with us.

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Speaker 8: How bad do you want to And I don't know

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Speaker 8: You know, And I think that's something that you know,

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Speaker 4: That creates more opportunity for people.

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Speaker 6: So if he's thinking about it like that, then on

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Speaker 8: how about a responsibility to your team, you know? And

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Speaker 8: But to me, I think you also Patrick mahomes Here's

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Speaker 8: along as well. So again it's just how much yeah,

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Speaker 9: Also, what Derek said about becoming a father, I think

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Speaker 9: life completely different. I look for myself and my pocket

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Speaker 9: it is, but yeah, Derek, but my point is it's

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Speaker 9: not going to get injured. Who's to say, you know,

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Speaker 9: that my son sounds selfish, but at this point in

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Speaker 8: No, there's no question, but you also, sixty million dollars

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Speaker 10: And now it's not about it. It's about now, it's

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Speaker 8: And if you think the criticism on weekly shows on

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, then the realization, yeah, I help myself.

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Speaker 8: I've got generational wealth. Great, but I'm a quarterback. Now

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Speaker 8: known on a six and eleven football team every year

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Speaker 8: that that in itself, nobody wants to go out here

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Speaker 8: and lose, and and and the Cowboys have proven outstanding players,

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Speaker 8: get it done players that then they draft, Well, that's

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Speaker 8: what gets wins here, that's what gets division wins. It

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Speaker 7: Last season would have to be the standard.

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Speaker 3: If sixty million is the number, and that's going to

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Speaker 6: All right, we're going to take our first break. We're

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Speaker 4: We've had a lot of practice at that back in

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Speaker 10: I'm shuy it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're an LSU student, but no, we appreciate you

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Speaker 6: We'll be doing a show every other weekday, alternating with

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 6: But we'll be doing that throughout training camp and then

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Speaker 4: Normal every day.

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Speaker 6: You can expect to see us Monday through Friday, every

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: This segment brought to you by blockchain dot Com. All right,

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Speaker 4: let's jump in. Let's let's get some mobs of from practice.

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Speaker 4: What did you guys see yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Brian, you gave us a good stude observation on the

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Speaker 4: I think we all.

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Speaker 10: Did good start for those two absolutely, and they need it.

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Speaker 4: They need to start.

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Speaker 6: They're going to get plenty of opportunities out here as

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Speaker 6: long as CD Lamb is out. Let's go to you Amber.

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Speaker 6: What's an observation that you saw yesterday a practice?

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Speaker 9: Okay, So my top guy that caught my eye the

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Speaker 9: just his demeanor overall, very different from Cooper Rush. You

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Speaker 9: of he's not very out there his personality and how

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Speaker 9: and make sure that wasn't Dak as far as how

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Speaker 7: So for those that like to.

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Speaker 9: Ask, hey, what about Lance and see a possibility, how's

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Speaker 9: he looking? This is a very important year for him.

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Speaker 9: I believe this is his last year on the contract,

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Speaker 9: and the Cowboys do have to figure out what's gonna

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Speaker 7: So we don't.

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Speaker 9: We still don't know what's gonna happen with him. We

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Speaker 9: don't know what's gonna happen with Dak and how that

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Speaker 9: somehow while they're figure out, you know, if they're gonna

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Speaker 9: But to me, he he looked pretty impressive on they

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Speaker 9: one as far as like just doesn't look like someone

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Speaker 6: I will throw out one thing before we go to

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Speaker 6: see a little more decisiveness and a little better accuracy

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Speaker 6: and consistency in that right. I think yesterday, I see

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Speaker 6: But from the standpoint of what I've seen him do

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Speaker 6: things I think he's got to show out here at

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Speaker 3: You could tell he wasn't confidence in San Francisco, because

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Speaker 3: when he came into the building around this time last year,

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Speaker 3: give or take a few weeks, you could see that

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Speaker 3: confidence was shot.

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Speaker 7: That confidence has slowly been building off the field over

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Speaker 7: the course of.

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Speaker 3: The last year, and I think that's been the big

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Speaker 3: thing for him to focus on, is just being comfortable

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Speaker 3: in who he is as as a player and as

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Speaker 3: a guy in the locker room. Once again, and we're

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Speaker 3: starting to see that now, like he's got some guys

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Speaker 3: that he relies upon in the locker room, that he

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Speaker 3: relies upon whenever he's working with the second and third team.

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Speaker 3: But I need that confidence to translate between the lines,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't quite see that yesterday. I had mentioned

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Speaker 3: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com yesterday that you know, he

681
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Speaker 3: struggled pushing the ball down field.

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Speaker 7: He hesitated to do that. Most of his stuff was just.

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Speaker 3: Checked downs five yards and in between and Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 3: He had a couple of arrant throws too. I said,

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Speaker 3: the slightly advantage would go to Rush for me today,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't in particularly winning fashion.

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Speaker 7: So that was my initial standout.

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Speaker 3: And then also looking at Cooper BB, you know, this

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Speaker 3: is a very interesting center battle.

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Speaker 7: I think it's I think it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Way more interesting than people may realize, just because of

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Speaker 3: the work that brock Hoffman has been putting in to

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Speaker 3: potentially be that starter. Also given the context of brock

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Speaker 3: Hoffman coming in and starting two games last year and

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Speaker 3: playing really well in those two games.

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Speaker 7: But Cooper Beb coming in.

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Speaker 3: With all of this knowledge, all of this, all of

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Speaker 3: these knacks to be an interior offensive lineman but also

699
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Speaker 3: playing a new position. BB really struggled with the shotgun snapping.

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Speaker 3: It was it was, it was really tough. But I

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Speaker 3: think whenever you kind of get used to seeing him

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Speaker 3: at camp and he gets a preseason game under his belt,

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Speaker 3: I'll be really excited to see what this battle looks

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Speaker 3: like after the RAMS game, because I think it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be really fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Did I see this right? It was TJ Bass also

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Speaker 4: taking some rep yesterday.

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Speaker 7: So he's technically that mix as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought so, which is which is also an

710
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Speaker 3: interesting layer to this entire deal because there's technically four

711
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Speaker 3: guys competing for the starting center spot. It's Brock Hoffman,

712
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Speaker 3: Cooper Bebe, Uh, TJ. Bass, and Dakota Shepley, And so

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Speaker 3: all four of those guys are gonna get reps, They're

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Speaker 3: going to get opportunities not only here in a Star

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Speaker 3: but in the preseason as well. I think ultimately it

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Speaker 3: does come down to Hoffman and Bebe, and I think

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Speaker 3: Bass is a guy that like, hey, we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: you as many reps as we can in case injury

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Speaker 3: does pop up.

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Speaker 7: We want you to know what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: But I think he's the right guard of the future,

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Speaker 3: and I think they're banking on that to happen whenever

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Speaker 3: Zach Martin does decide to call it a career over

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Speaker 3: being the size to to leave the right guard of

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Speaker 3: the future over BB I believe.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, you would have to kind of understand

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Speaker 3: what would happen after training camp here, because if Hoffman

729
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Speaker 3: does win that center job, then yeah, you're right, that

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Speaker 3: is a right guard battle whenever Zach Martin decides to decides.

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Speaker 7: To depart Dallas. So it's a it's it's a good

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Speaker 7: problem to have.

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Speaker 3: They they're starting to have a lot of depth there

734
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Speaker 3: in the interior offensive line that they can play with.

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Speaker 3: How strong will that depth be? That's what these four

736
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Speaker 3: weeks are gonna tell us.

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Speaker 8: I think we all need to keep an eye on

738
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Speaker 8: what's going on. I think the best part of this

739
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Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys offensive line is their interior guys. Yeah, absolutely,

740
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Speaker 8: And I think what you need to keep an eye

741
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Speaker 8: on is how that plays out and if they all

742
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Speaker 8: look very very competitive and either anybody could start because

743
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Speaker 8: if something were to happen with Geidon, say at left tackle,

744
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Speaker 8: or they were not totally you know, Chumadoga is the

745
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Speaker 8: left tackle right now. As we drill. As we drill,

746
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Speaker 8: I mean, we'll have a lot of practices out here

747
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Speaker 8: and stuff, but I would keep an eye on that

748
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Speaker 8: because to me, the fallback, fallback position is Tyler Smith

749
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Speaker 8: moves to left tackle and now you put one of

750
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Speaker 8: those the BB, the bass somebody in there at the

751
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Speaker 8: left guard spot, and then you go to battle that way.

752
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 8: So a lot going on with that group.

753
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Speaker 3: There's a zero percent chance that if Tyler Geiden is

754
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Speaker 3: not ready to go by week one in the coach

755
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Speaker 3: size that they are playing sho.

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Speaker 8: I just to me, this is where this is where

757
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Speaker 8: I go back to my days of working in player

758
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Speaker 8: personnel and that with coaches and sometimes and especially in

759
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 8: this organization, the coaches are looked at as okay, let's

760
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Speaker 8: take their word for it.

761
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Speaker 10: Let's you know.

762
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Speaker 8: And so now you're thinking, I was thinking, okay, I'm

763
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Speaker 8: okay with brock Hoffman. I get that. I understand what's

764
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Speaker 8: going on there. But you drafted Geyton with the reason

765
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Speaker 8: for a purpose. You know, you you addressed that, you said, hey,

766
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Speaker 8: this is our guy. So if Mike Solari all of

767
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Speaker 8: a sudden gets away with playing with Chumadoga at left tackle.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna make me in the personnel department question, Okay,

769
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Speaker 8: why did we do this? Why didn't we take Barton

770
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Speaker 8: the center from Duke or some other thing that if

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Speaker 8: you're not if you're going to just go ahead and

772
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Speaker 8: play that guy then But I think that I think

773
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Speaker 8: that it Geydon has to show that he can't do it.

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Speaker 8: You know, initially, I think there's going to be a

775
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Speaker 8: learning curve there, just how steepable learning curve we were

776
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Speaker 8: about to see.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want it to be a dunk on

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Speaker 3: chumwaydoga either. No No, always said I think he's a

779
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Speaker 3: better interier.

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Speaker 8: But they addressed it. They addressed it. They drafted a

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Speaker 8: tackle that's purely yeah.

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Speaker 10: I feel there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we're gonna go intake our final break.

784
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Speaker 6: When we come back, we're gonna get into some storylines

785
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Speaker 6: and we're this is actually gonna span this show and

786
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Speaker 6: the next show. I just want to run through all

787
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Speaker 6: the different storylines because there's so many.

788
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Speaker 7: We're gonna yeah, we.

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Speaker 4: Might need wrong show.

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Speaker 9: That's another show.

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Speaker 4: Storylines that shot out on a storyline T shirt.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So we're gonna go start going through some of

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Speaker 6: these storylines and it hit them.

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Speaker 4: We've already talked about a couple of them, but we're

795
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Speaker 4: gonna go through.

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Speaker 6: Some of these storylines, get your opinions on some of

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Speaker 6: We got a final segment here on the Break live

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Speaker 6: from Oxendak, California, and let's get into some storylines. I

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Speaker 6: think the biggest storyline that we all can agree is

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Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb and his absence.

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Speaker 4: Here at training camp.

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Speaker 6: The question after you, guys, is how much do you

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Speaker 6: think this sets him back? He obviously is a veteran player,

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Speaker 6: but there is also even with veteran players, there is

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Speaker 6: the timing aspect you want to be able to kind

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Speaker 6: of work back up between the quarterback and the receivers.

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Speaker 6: How much does do you think this sets him back?

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Speaker 3: I think this is an interesting one just because I'm

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Speaker 3: kind of on both sides of the corn here. Initially,

885
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: whenever I asked this question around Ota Mini Camp time.

886
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: I look at it and I see, Okay, there's still

887
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: opportunities for Dak and CD to.

888
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 7: Get together off the field, whether it be.

889
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: At Dak's home, at a random training facility away from

890
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: campus and kind of be able to still get that

891
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: rhythm down, still be able to find that connection between

892
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: the two before they get out to Oxnard or before

893
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: it's just Dak that gets out to Oxnard. But we

894
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: hear Dak and he's talking yesterday, and he took that

895
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: trip with the receivers and tight ends and running backs

896
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: that he does every single year, and this year all

897
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: quarterbacks came too, so it was Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.

898
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: They all eighteen of them went up to Portland, Oregon

899
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: trained at the Nike campus for three days and they

900
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 3: were able to get a lot of really good work

901
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: in and you could really see that translate onto the

902
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: field last year whenever they did that trip, and you're

903
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: starting to see that early on here as well.

904
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 7: Ceede Lamb wasn't at that trip, So I think that's

905
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 7: I think that's.

906
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 3: A little bit of an interesting tidbit because how much

907
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: will Seedy have to catch up when he does get here,

908
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: because that will have to happen. There will be a

909
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: ramp up phase for him, whether he starts tomorrow or

910
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: he starts in week one practicing. And we saw it

911
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: a little bit with Zach Martin whenever he got integrated

912
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 3: in Oxnard last year. So I think concern level, I'd

913
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 3: put it at maybe like a three to four out

914
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: of ten. But I still think it is there, and

915
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: you still have to build that connection. You have to

916
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: build that rhythm with your quarterback. But granted, I think

917
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: the pros and the positives are he's coming off the

918
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: best season in franchise history for a wide receiver, his

919
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: quarterback was second in MVP voting last year, and those

920
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: two have played together for what is it now, three

921
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: four seasons, So I think I think building that connection

922
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: over time is really it will allow it to be

923
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: a lot more seamless than it has been in recent years.

924
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: And aside from this leaf flower over here, I think

925
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: they'll be fine whenever they get going the show.

926
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 10: Yeah exactly, Yeah, go ahead.

927
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 9: Well, I was gonna say I tend to be a

928
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 9: little extremist, if that's the right word extreme. Yeah, you know,

929
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 9: in the same family. Yea, But yeah, I tend to

930
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 9: be exaggerate those things a little bit because we've seen

931
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 9: it before where you don't have the same type of

932
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 9: it takes a while, where we've seen games, Sorry, I

933
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 9: got completely distracted. We've seen games where it took them

934
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 9: a while to get in sync, and we've seen that

935
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 9: to be a problem before. And this is no, I'm

936
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 9: not saying anything bad about CD. I think he's he's

937
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 9: still preparing, he's still practice practicing, We are doing his

938
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 9: own workouts. We heard Dik talk about him not being

939
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 9: a problem and he's gonna be okay. We heard Brendan

940
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 9: Cooks he mentioned him as well, saying, hey, he's doing

941
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 9: everything he needs to do at this moment to stay

942
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 9: in track and be ready to go as soon as

943
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 9: he comes here. But how many times have we seen

944
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 9: it in games where the receivers in DC are kind

945
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 9: of not in sync, And how I don't have time

946
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 9: to wait week one, week two, week three, we four

947
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 9: for them to get going. I need them to get

948
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 9: going right away. And this is not a sach Martin situation.

949
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 9: Very different position, very different experience, all of that. So

950
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 9: I think it is extremely important for him to be

951
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 9: here now However, at the same time, just like you

952
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 9: mentioned those other younger wide receivers, great to see them

953
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 9: getting those extra reps and being able to kind of

954
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 9: keep growing as opposed to you know, CD, that takes

955
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 9: away a little bit from their own time out here.

956
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 9: But I do think it's very important for him not

957
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 9: to be here.

958
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, training camp, this is a lot different than working

959
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 8: in Houston, you know. And and but you Nick was

960
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 8: talking about, you know, throwing in the dockyard and all

961
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 8: that stuff that they've done, and I don't ever worry

962
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 8: about that part. I think they have an understanding of

963
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 8: of you know, being together long enough that where somebody

964
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 8: is going to be where they're you know, the routes

965
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 8: are going to end and all that. I just worry

966
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 8: about the all of a sudden, if safety misses the

967
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 8: first week of camp and then they do get it done,

968
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 8: now you're behind that way. Just from the conditioning aspect,

969
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 8: and see Lamb is a very well conditioned athlete. But

970
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 8: training camp running is different than running in Houston or

971
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 8: Frisco or wherever else. That just the practice pace is different,

972
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 8: and you always worry about, Yeah, you worry about the

973
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 8: soft tissue things, and this organization has had a little

974
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 8: bit of a history history at times where you know,

975
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 8: people come in and then all of a sudden you

976
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 8: get those soft tissue injuries, and then now you're set back.

977
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 8: But and then if you miss ten days, now you're

978
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 8: closer to the season. And now if you're hurt, then

979
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 8: there's questions about will you be ready against Week one

980
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 8: against the Browns. Yeah, those are the only things that

981
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 8: I worry about.

982
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 6: Do you think it should affect negotiations? Knowing that this

983
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 6: is such a and I hesitate to use this term,

984
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 6: but an all in season. And what I mean by

985
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 6: that is like, literally, there are a bunch of people

986
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 6: around here, players, coaches who this is the last who

987
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 6: rat like they don't have future deals. This is like,

988
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 6: let's see what this year becomes with all that on

989
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 6: the line. Do you think that should affect negotiations from

990
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 6: the standpoint of the Cowboys point of view, to say, hey,

991
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 6: maybe we got to give a little more to go

992
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 6: ahead and get this done knowing so much as riding

993
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: on it.

994
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know how you guys feel about it,

995
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 8: but Jerry Jones was talking about seeing more.

996
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 10: Leaves off the tree.

997
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you have an understanding of some of

998
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 8: these deals that have already been done, and so you

999
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 8: have an idea play the game of where does Ceedee

1000
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 8: Lamb fit in the receivers that have been extended or

1001
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 8: the receivers that are trying to get extended, And so

1002
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 8: that's where to me, that's where that number comes into.

1003
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 8: I was talking to somebody in the league, another cap guy,

1004
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 8: and usually it's like, oh, well the Hills contract is

1005
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 8: they say it's thirty million dollars.

1006
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 10: Well, in actuality, it's really twenty seven to five, you know.

1007
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 10: And then Adams.

1008
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 8: Contract is actually twenty four or five. You know, it's

1009
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 8: not a thirty million dollar deal. But then I asked

1010
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 8: about the Jefferson contract and they're like, no, that's a

1011
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 8: thirty five million dollar contract.

1012
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 10: Straight up.

1013
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 8: It's a straight up thirty five million dollar contract. So

1014
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 8: to me, if you have an understanding or an idea

1015
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 8: of where these numbers are going to fall, then I've

1016
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 8: always found this with Steven Jones, if you don't try

1017
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 8: and reset the market with him, he'll deal with you.

1018
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 8: He'll deal with you in a way of like Okay,

1019
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 8: come in right under this number. You know, if I'm

1020
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 8: not resetting the market then, and I think that's where

1021
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 8: maybe Lamb and his group needs to think about. Don't

1022
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 8: think about the Jefferson number. Think maybe at or slightly

1023
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 8: below that number, and if you're satisfied with that, then

1024
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 8: you're good to go. And I think they would deal

1025
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 8: with you on that way.

1026
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: I think from my understanding looking at the negotiations and

1027
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 3: just kind of how things have played out, I see

1028
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: CD Lamb and his representation being.

1029
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 7: Comfortable being under that.

1030
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, I do too.

1031
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 3: I think the semantics are gonna come in the length

1032
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 3: of the deal and the guaranteed money. I think that's

1033
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: where you're gonna have all these conversations back and forth.

1034
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: Stephen Jones said in his walk off yesterday that they

1035
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: have exchanged numerous.

1036
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 7: Deals with CD Lamb.

1037
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're going through the very minute details of

1038
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: this entire thing.

1039
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 7: I think the per year I don't think that.

1040
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: I think maybe there's a little bit too much importance

1041
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: being put on that, right. I think it's the length

1042
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: and the guaranteed money, because both of those two things

1043
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: they can make him the quote unquote highest paid, just

1044
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: depending on how you look at it.

1045
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 6: But to that point, was it interesting that you guys

1046
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 6: that Steven mentioned yesterday in the press conference that talking

1047
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 6: about him and Micah both want to be the highest

1048
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 6: paid non quarterbacks in the.

1049
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: League, which kind of it jumped out to.

1050
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 6: Me because I never I wouldn't have thought that that

1051
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 6: necessarily CD and his representation would be looking for highest

1052
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 6: paid on quarterback in the league kind of money, or

1053
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: wide receiver even kind of money. But according to Steven,

1054
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 6: maybe that is what what might be a part of

1055
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 6: this equation.

1056
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's fascinating.

1057
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: It's a fascinating ordeal because what what does that mean

1058
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, Because there's three different

1059
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: markers you can look at. You can look at the

1060
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: annual contract value, you can look at the guaranteed money,

1061
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 3: total money, you can look at a bunch of things,

1062
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: and especially once you crack it down with state taxes

1063
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: and things like that, they can make the negotiation fib

1064
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: a little bit and be like, hey, this is the

1065
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: highest paying on our highest paid non quarterback contract in

1066
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: the league, even though ESPN might not say it.

1067
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: So, all right, that's a wrap for us. We'll be

1068
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 6: back on next Tuesday. It was next Tuesday. We only

1069
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 6: got to one storyline and we got plenty more to

1070
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 6: get to.

1071
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 3: So it's fun when you're having fun. It's short when

1072
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: you're having fun because I'm around.

1073
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: Come on, welcome to the show. Nick. It was a

1074
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: good first year.

1075
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 10: I'll work on that read for you guys next time.

1076
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: It was just the first one. Brian, we got time,

1077
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 4: we got.

1078
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 10: There's a lot going on here with that Reid.

1079
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: We got about to figure out. All right. We'll be

1080
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: back with you guys next Tuesday. Till then.

1081
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Speaker 6: For Brian, brought a Sambergarcia and Nick Harris. I'm Derek Eagleton.

1082
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,960
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1083
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1084
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1085
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