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Speaker 1: The World's of biget Pokies. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Am

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Speaker 1: I am? I scared of that Jets defense? Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're good. You're not terrible.

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Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of defenses in general. I'm not. That's

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Speaker 1: Oh man, nice. If you like football, Yeah, I do

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Speaker 3: I don't like Zach. At the same time, you're telling

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Speaker 3: me that they lost in the Cincinnati game because they

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Who have him?

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Speaker 5: Repeat that he made three? Really good throws in the game.

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Speaker 5: And that's one of them, only three good throws. All

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and uh got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: It's a big show. It's the turn the paid day

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots. This is when the players get their

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Speaker 1: game plans for the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we're telling everyone it's gonna be a throwback game.

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Speaker 1: So the Patriots will be in their reds for this game.

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Speaker 1: A little later in the show, we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame visit from Andre Tippet. Talk a little

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Speaker 1: Last week we introduced the Poster series series uh, poster

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Speaker 1: going to be an unique poster created by a local

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Speaker 1: five of each game. Each poster is numbered and signed

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Speaker 1: by the artist, and you can buy them on Patriots

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Speaker 1: This is this week's poster for the Miami Dolphins game,

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Speaker 1: Patris dot com. We're gonna have a different poster for

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Speaker 1: So we're really excited about this whole poster series that

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Speaker 4: What else do we have? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Little little Miami look to it, some New England look.

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Speaker 3: It's like a politician there you know, let me look

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Speaker 1: now back from defending doctor bat the Doctor Gloom Evan Lazarre,

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Speaker 1: the veteran of the Mac Battles Doctor Gloom.

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Speaker 5: That's my new nickname.

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Speaker 8: How are your Twitter fights going with with your unhappy

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 5: I think I think I'm misunderstood. That's what I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: True because we talked about that twenty five point. You know,

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Speaker 3: how about get Brady's first three years when allowing twenty

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Speaker 1: They didn't allow. Are we really saying that Mac couldn't

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Speaker 1: We're just a little frustrated, that's all, Mike. Some of

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Speaker 3: Agreed that was what I focused on yesterday, but no

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Speaker 5: I don't disagree with any of that, and I think

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Speaker 3: Do you think the Giants are looking at that, Fred

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: I understand that it was a complete and total collapse

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Speaker 8: Well, how many times have you seen a Week one

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Speaker 3: Perhaps could they have played better than they really are?

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Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know, I have no Like Fred,

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Speaker 1: Who knows, just don't know. That's why you can't judge

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Speaker 5: I'm not misunderstood, Okay, I am misunderstand.

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Speaker 1: That's evans thing.

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Speaker 5: Have people telling me that it that that I'm mad

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Speaker 8: Oh, oh that's I didn't even think that.

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Speaker 3: Here's the way that hangs out with them, you know.

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Speaker 8: Aside and the Brady the Brady hypephone, did they put

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Speaker 3: That was in a little bit that was in Who's Honor?

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Speaker 1: Were one more email and then we'll get into today's topic.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to let the people because a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Redford, Michigan, I'm one hundred percent on board

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Speaker 3: You know, everybody not everybody misunderstands.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for telling it like it is. Like Evan said,

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Speaker 5: Maybe I look, I said it yesterday again, didn't nobody

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Speaker 3: old friend J C. Jackson had a pick. He also

445
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Speaker 3: had a colossal little stupid that.

446
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Speaker 8: Was when he just shoved the guy to It was

447
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 8: just named AFC offensive players.

448
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Speaker 1: He was as expected as Fred predicted.

449
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 5: How was the best game I've ever seen to a play?

450
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Speaker 3: The throw he had climbing the pocket downfield to Tyreek

451
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Speaker 3: Hill was sick.

452
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Speaker 1: That was a good throw.

453
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not like a to a guy.

454
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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge He showed me something, and.

455
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Speaker 8: I really think he's good. I just think the only

456
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Speaker 8: thing is it's him verse concussions. Like that's pretty much

457
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Speaker 8: well that.

458
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know for all the people that just

459
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Speaker 3: say it's it's Waddle and Hill, and obviously that's a

460
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: huge part of their explosiveness. But it didn't look like

461
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Speaker 3: that when Teddy Bridgewater, who was a competent NFL player,

462
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 3: right he's not, he's but I mean he started a

463
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 3: lot of games in this league, didn't look like any

464
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Speaker 3: anything like that. I mean, I'm not not comparing Skylo

465
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 3: Thompson seventh round rookie, but when Teddy Bridgewater played last year,

466
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Speaker 3: it did not look the same.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

468
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Speaker 8: I don't mean I don't want to say this as

469
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Speaker 8: a shot at MAC, but like you know, we when

470
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Speaker 8: he came out, it was accuracy and anticipation that you

471
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Speaker 8: were sold on, like somewhat, but I feel like Tua

472
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Speaker 8: has plus accuracy and anticipation in a way that is unique.

473
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Speaker 1: And I mean listen if and then you add his mobility.

474
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Speaker 1: You know, he's not a running but he can be

475
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Speaker 1: a little bit. He's you know, he could I dare

476
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Speaker 1: say it, but he could end up he could end

477
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Speaker 1: up having a career like Drew Brees where he's just

478
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Speaker 1: so accurate, such anticipation makes up for his lack of

479
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: size with with that, it's just like injuries, he could

480
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Speaker 1: have that type.

481
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Speaker 3: Of I mean, in fairness, at this time of Drew Brees' career,

482
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Speaker 3: they were.

483
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Speaker 1: Durabilities.

484
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Speaker 8: Oh sure, yeah, that's why he left the team, small

485
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Speaker 8: guy who was and sign him because of it.

486
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Speaker 1: But I you know, I mean.

487
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Speaker 5: Saban might still be the coach of the Dolphins.

488
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Speaker 8: It's just it's the unknown with concussions though, you know,

489
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Speaker 8: like that's like like you can say, well, he had

490
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Speaker 8: a shoulder injury. Did he come back from it was

491
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Speaker 8: the okay, yes, But like concussions, you just you don't know,

492
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 8: you never knows. He could be one hit away from

493
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Speaker 8: that one that really makes a dramatic turn.

494
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Speaker 1: Speaking of injuries, the Jets made it official yesterday that

495
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers did tear his achilles and he's out for

496
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Speaker 1: the season. It does suck for Jets. It sucks for

497
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Speaker 1: the NFL more so. I like, I don't care about

498
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Speaker 1: Jets fans, but it sucks for the league that he's

499
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Speaker 1: not in it this year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, yeah, that was what I had to

501
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 8: pinch hit one of the shows yesterday. I got to

502
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Speaker 8: work with Zoe for the first.

503
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Speaker 1: Time, which was quite the experience.

504
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Speaker 8: But yeah, that was you know, he was I mean,

505
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Speaker 8: obviously as a former NFL quarterback, he's on the you know,

506
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 8: you never want to.

507
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Speaker 1: See anyone get injured, especially someone like that.

508
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Speaker 8: I do know a couple of Jets fans that I,

509
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 8: you know, feel bad about, Like it's you know, like

510
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 8: our fans like we're like, I feel like we're getting

511
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 8: a little bit frustrated, perhaps with the the way that

512
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 8: games kind of unfold continually for three years now, we've

513
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Speaker 8: been watching you know, like I know, a little different,

514
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 8: little more promise maybe, but like I just don't understand

515
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 8: some of the fans in our fan base that just

516
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 8: have their heads in the sand and are like, what,

517
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 8: everything's fine, Like we won a Super Bowl four years ago,

518
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 8: you know. But with Jets fans, it's like they got

519
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 8: to be apoplectic. Like I mean, it's like everyone predicted it,

520
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 8: like you just they're all on the same page. They're

521
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 8: all miserable, they all know what's gonna happen, and I

522
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 8: just feel I do feel bad for some of them.

523
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Speaker 5: On one of I think it might have been Good

524
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 5: Morning Football or one of the shows, Garrett Wilson was on,

525
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 5: and he said that Aaron Rodgers went up to him

526
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 5: and in the locker room after the game and said, sorry,

527
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 5: this was like, oh my goodness, Like, imagine a player

528
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 5: like that, that is such a talented receiver, and now

529
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Speaker 5: you think you have this MVP quarterback throwing you the

530
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Speaker 5: ball and you're gonna have this great year, and then

531
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Speaker 5: you have to go back to Zack Wilson throwing you

532
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Speaker 5: the football. And he still had a thousand yards even

533
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Speaker 5: with Zach Wilson throwing him the ball.

534
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Speaker 3: So it'll be it'll be interesting to see what they

535
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Speaker 3: do because I know they have to embrace Zach Wilson now.

536
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: But I mean I think we all sort of expected

537
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Speaker 3: not to go great. You know, I do think there

538
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: are some options that would be better. And I'm not

539
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: saying like obviously we joked around about Tom yesterday.

540
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Speaker 4: But like.

541
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Speaker 3: There's some backups, and I mean, like case Keenum is

542
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Speaker 3: in Houston, right, Like, don't you think he would give

543
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Speaker 3: them a better chance than Zach Wills.

544
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen enough of Zach Wilson to think, yes.

545
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Speaker 3: You know, even if they I mean, you could probably

546
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Speaker 3: get Davis Mills. I mean, they're gonna go to c J. Stroud.

547
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Speaker 3: I mean maybe they want to keep Keenum as the

548
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Speaker 3: veteran guy to sort of help c J.

549
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Speaker 1: Stroud. So you're saying to take a little bit of

550
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Speaker 1: maybe a sake a swing, but more of.

551
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Speaker 3: How about Chad Henny. Someone brought up Chad Henny to

552
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: me yesterday. He did a good job last year in

553
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: the playoffs when Mahomes had to come out. Now he retired,

554
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: so he hasn't done anything. Again, I'm not talking about

555
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about something well that would be worse,

556
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: but I'm not talking about Sunday Like obviously, Zach Wilson's

557
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 3: what Silas said yesterday, you have to say, and I

558
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 3: think that he's he struck all the right courts I got.

559
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: But assuming that we're right, and three weeks from now

560
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: the Jets can't move the ball and he can't stop

561
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 3: throwing interceptions, like, you should have something ready to go

562
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: beyond what they I know they promoted somebody from the

563
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Speaker 3: practice squad right yesterday. Probably we should probably mention the

564
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Speaker 3: Patriots signed a practice squad quarterback ian book and book

565
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: Notre Dame not here the effort to get smaller and

566
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Speaker 3: smaller at quarterback in today at six feet.

567
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Speaker 1: Oh he's I don't know about that. Yeah.

568
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Speaker 5: I was listening to one of Paul shows yesterday on

569
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Speaker 5: my way home and they mentioned with the Jets, you

570
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 5: just need two thousand fifteen Peyton Manning, right, like you

571
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 5: just need like the veteran quarterback that doesn't turn the

572
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Speaker 5: ball over, that knows where to go with the football.

573
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Speaker 5: You know, Peyton didn't have great arm talent back.

574
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Speaker 3: I think Chad Henny could be that.

575
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Speaker 5: Yeah, if I was them, they're not since they're not

576
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Speaker 5: gonna get Brady, I would call Philip Rivers. I would

577
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Speaker 5: call Philip Rivers.

578
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Speaker 1: And fifteen kids to his eye.

579
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Speaker 3: But if he's if he's been out now for a

580
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Speaker 3: couple of years, three years, two years, Matt Ryan.

581
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Speaker 1: What they went three years right to be? The third

582
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Speaker 1: year is they went Carson Wentz Matt Ryan, Yeah.

583
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Speaker 5: He just now he's got that. Philip Rivers is. Yeah,

584
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 5: he's he's going to be just a game manager.

585
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Speaker 1: I see now, I don't know forties forties.

586
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 3: That that class, Eli, Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. I

587
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: mean they've been out now, yeah, they're.

588
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Speaker 5: They're all retired.

589
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yep.

590
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Speaker 8: I think the thing that's weird too about four draft class,

591
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Speaker 8: there's such a an angst towards Zach Wilson, and they

592
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 8: had no choice but to go back to him. So

593
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Speaker 8: it was just such a jarring thing to go from

594
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 8: so much hope and promise and excitement.

595
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: Hey, if he wasn't there, second were all pick of

596
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: the draft, Mike, they probably would have cut him when

597
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: they signed Rogers and kept they'd done something to keep

598
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: Mike White. Now they got no choice to Mike White

599
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 3: is another one of these guys that I think somehow

600
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: is considered to be something he's not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he went on he's like what you talked

602
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: about that he went one.

603
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Speaker 3: In three as the starter last year. I mean, as

604
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Speaker 3: bad as Zach Wilson was, they went five and four

605
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Speaker 3: when he started. I don't know that Mike White would

606
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: have them in any better spot right now. I mean,

607
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: he's sort of a reckless guy who takes a lot

608
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: of chances.

609
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it. I'm going to make a prediction

610
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: and probably gonna pooh poo me, but I think Zach

611
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Speaker 1: Wilson is going to be better than people think.

612
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's one of those things that can't be

613
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Speaker 3: pooh pooed because I don't know what people think, what people.

614
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Speaker 8: What everyone thinks that'll be okay, you think they'll make

615
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 8: it to the end of the season as their starter.

616
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Speaker 1: I think I think they're going to compete. Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think last year, right I don't think they're

618
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Speaker 1: out of the playoff race.

619
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're out of the playoff race either.

620
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Speaker 1: I think they're out of the Super Bowl race.

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Speaker 5: I think what's crazy about Zach Wilson is like even

622
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 5: he can't even game manage like and to me, like

623
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 5: that's like the the bottom line for a quarterback is

624
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: if you can't add all of the extra stuff that

625
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 5: like a Mahomes or an Allen there just don't just

626
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: just don't ruin it. All he's got to do is

627
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 5: hand the ball off to Breeze Hall and run play

628
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: action like that's it, like and he still just can't

629
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 5: even You.

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Speaker 3: Point the first one, the game at the Metalwlands last year,

631
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: if he had just been a game manager, the Jets

632
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: would have won that game. Yeah, the second one, he

633
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: needed to make some plays and they couldn't.

634
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 8: I remember what like when him coming out too, it

635
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 8: was such a talk of just you know, his arm

636
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 8: talent and his ability like off platform, you know, late

637
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 8: in the down throw the ball downfield and in the NFL,

638
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 8: those look like the times where he's most.

639
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: Like, oh god, if I were a Jet fan, until

640
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: I saw him moving backwards, just I would just have

641
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: a cow. I don't know how. I don't know how

642
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: as a Jet fan you can watch him and not

643
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 3: have anxiety.

644
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 5: They forced him out of the pocket in one of

645
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 5: the matchups last year. That was actually the game plan

646
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 5: was to flush him because they knew that once he

647
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 5: got on the move, was going to chuck it to

648
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 5: Devin mccorty three times, so they literally moments designed the

649
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: plan to make him throw on the move.

650
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 8: Well, was it you talking to dmac at about the

651
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 8: plan against Wilson and just being.

652
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: Like, he will give us the ball.

653
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 8: I forget where I heard that, but somebody.

654
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Speaker 5: After the game was that game? I distinctly remember just

655
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: telling us that they wanted to have the pass rush

656
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 5: tee off, force him out of the pocket and just

657
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 5: push him into the sideline and make him make a throw.

658
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: And he did, but kind of like too, was going

659
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: to give you some opportunities. He will throw some up

660
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: to you.

661
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: He will.

662
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: He trust his receivers and he'll throw them up. And

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Speaker 3: the other part two tremendously talented guys, right, He'll and Waddle.

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Speaker 3: They don't have a ton beyond that. They don't run

665
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Speaker 3: the ball very well. Their offensive line is weak Durham spink,

666
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Speaker 3: and they don't really you know, they don't really throw

667
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Speaker 3: the tight ends. They don't have a lot of depth

668
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Speaker 3: at receiver. Listen, they are very good. You know last

669
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Speaker 3: year they they were pretty productive with Hill and Waddle

670
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Speaker 3: and they kept the score down because I think the

671
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Speaker 3: score kind of got out of hand seventeen nothing at

672
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Speaker 3: the half if I remember correctly, But you know, Hill

673
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: had like eighty or ninety yards and Waddle had the

674
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Speaker 3: big play in the game on the fourth down. I

675
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Speaker 3: don't know if that's enough. Like they're gonna have to

676
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Speaker 3: find other things to do in order to put up

677
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Speaker 3: some big numbers.

678
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Speaker 1: Miami, okay, Robin writes, and he says he's in Alaska.

679
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Speaker 1: I love Tuesday Show. It was like Eric was back.

680
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Speaker 1: What we talked a lot of football. Yeah, Rozzie, I

681
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Speaker 1: agree with Evan. Nope, I don't think he was overly negative.

682
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Speaker 1: As I understood it. The critique was not of Mac.

683
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: It was of the Patriots roster building philosophy. They haven't

684
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Speaker 1: had enough talented people around that to build a winning team.

685
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: They spend in draft to have sustained success, like Belichick's words, However,

686
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Speaker 1: without elite skill players, they are headed for sustained mediocrity.

687
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Speaker 3: Can I pick at that that sentence a little bit?

688
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: They draft to sustain, how does like so? In other words,

689
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: if you drafted receivers, you can't sustain like if you don't. Now, clearly,

690
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Speaker 3: Bill he drafted three straight first three rounds, three defensive guys,

691
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Speaker 3: but that's an eye toward being better for a longer

692
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Speaker 3: period of time than immediately.

693
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Speaker 1: I don't really see the core.

694
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Speaker 8: Criticisms we've had of the draft is with the inability

695
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Speaker 8: to sustain positions like the tackle spot that all of

696
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 8: a sudden you just don't have to tackles.

697
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Speaker 3: To address the needs that you know, I mean, the

698
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: experts we used to see, well, yeah, you know, bigger,

699
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: but you know, you used to see the planet at

700
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Speaker 3: at the you know, receiving third down back.

701
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Speaker 1: You know, they always had pipeline.

702
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Speaker 8: They had pipelines and positions that you could kind of

703
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 8: establish and say, all right, that guy's going to go.

704
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: You know, Matt Light's going to retire.

705
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Speaker 8: We just drafted Solder, we got Volmer, you know, like

706
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 8: it's all it's all in place, and they've been chasing

707
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 8: their tail, especially the offensive line, for a while.

708
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Speaker 3: And listen, I started and like the I like the

709
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: the idea of what they did on defense. And first

710
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: of all, cornerback was an enormous need that very few

711
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Speaker 3: people felt like the way we did going into the

712
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Speaker 3: draft process, we all felt that cornerback was in the

713
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Speaker 3: top handful of needs. So we all love the Gonzales pick.

714
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Speaker 3: But you know, you look at the key On White,

715
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Speaker 3: which is one that I will admit that I kind

716
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Speaker 3: of scratched my head on, not because of the player,

717
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: but because of the spot, and you just kind of wonder,

718
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Speaker 3: are they looking at him and maybe they looking at

719
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Speaker 3: Barmore like they to me, They've given Barmore some chances

720
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Speaker 3: both in the summer on the practice field and then

721
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Speaker 3: to start the game the other day, and that looked great.

722
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Speaker 3: He played well as a three down guy. I don't

723
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Speaker 3: think that he looks as good I you know, that's

724
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Speaker 3: my guy, Like I am holding on to Barre. That

725
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: was my favorite pick that they've made in recent memory.

726
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Speaker 3: I haven't seen the dominant four like I saw key

727
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Speaker 3: On White a lot the other day, and he didn't play.

728
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Speaker 5: You know what I thought was bettern review Like, I

729
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 5: didn't notice him live either very much.

730
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Speaker 3: But I thought they ran the ball pretty well in

731
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Speaker 3: the early part of that game when a guy came

732
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Speaker 3: in and I thought it kind of changed. But as well,

733
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about as an all around play.

734
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you, Travis. I love but you know

735
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: that Gouse. Guys know that I have a I have

736
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: a crush on him.

737
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Speaker 8: But can I make a real quick point Fred, It's like,

738
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Speaker 8: but see, like that's the things they do on defense,

739
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Speaker 8: like they take weird like the chances they trade up

740
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Speaker 8: for Barmore, they don't.

741
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Speaker 1: You know, even if that's what I'm wondering, is is

742
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Speaker 1: keyon White?

743
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Speaker 3: You know, we know Lawrence guy's going you know, if

744
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Speaker 3: it's not next years, he probably will be gone next year,

745
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: you know, godchild will be He's getting a little older

746
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: to you know, maybe they're looking at Barmore's like, well,

747
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: he's a situational guy. We're trying to see if he's

748
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Speaker 3: more than that sort of paving the way for losing

749
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Speaker 3: him after next year. You know, I don't know, Yeah,

750
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Speaker 3: Like I just I wonder if that's the thought prop Well, the.

751
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Speaker 8: Point I was going to try to tie it too,

752
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 8: is just they don't really take those chances on offense,

753
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Speaker 8: like you know, they don't really like, Wow, they didn't

754
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 8: really need this, like you know, I mean I guess

755
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 8: you could maybe say like Sony Michelle, which obviously didn't

756
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 8: work out, but it was kind of like they don't

757
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 8: really need a running back, like especially not in the

758
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Speaker 8: first round, but that you know, they took a kind

759
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Speaker 8: of a chance on it.

760
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Speaker 1: They take chances, but like why like they took a chance,

761
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Speaker 1: Like taking Taekwon Thornton in the second round is taking

762
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Speaker 1: a chance r But is it a good chance to take? Yeah,

763
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Speaker 1: that's that's the misevaluation.

764
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that that's like with the tackle spot,

765
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Speaker 5: because I agree with you one hundred percent that they

766
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Speaker 5: have been chasing their tail on tackle since really like

767
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Speaker 5: Nate Solder left and then like they had the year

768
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Speaker 5: with Trent Brown to bridge the gap in twenty eighteen.

769
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Speaker 5: But what it comes back down to is that Isaiah

770
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Speaker 5: Win was supposed to be the left tackle and they

771
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Speaker 5: missed on the pick. And I think the same thing thing,

772
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Speaker 5: at least so far, can be saying for Taekwon, Like

773
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Speaker 5: that throw that Mac made to Kaishon Boodie at the

774
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Speaker 5: end of the game, that's supposed to be Taekwon Thornton

775
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Speaker 5: on other side. And now we're talking about Taekwon Thornton

776
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Speaker 5: in year two and with Mac again, and like if

777
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Speaker 5: he's a if he's George Pickens, then you know it's

778
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Speaker 5: a I'm not like to do that whole thing, but

779
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 5: like it's it. And then and so now they're chasing

780
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Speaker 5: their tail again at wide receiver, looking for top end

781
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: wide receiver talent because they missed on the pick at

782
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Speaker 5: least so far. So that's like the repeat of what

783
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Speaker 5: I see with them. And like Barth and I when

784
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 5: we do our draft, like we've been talking about tackles for.

785
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Speaker 1: It feels like every year they have to take on every.

786
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: Broken record every year. It's like, you know we're talking

787
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Speaker 5: about it.

788
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: They just overthink it, you know, like we're not going

789
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: to take the consensus number two valued receiver. We're gonna

790
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: take this guy from a small school, and you know,

791
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: because we know he's better than others, you.

792
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Speaker 8: Know, well, especially on the offensive side of the ball,

793
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 8: like you know, like trading up to take a tackle

794
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 8: from Alabama, like not a you know, not a huge

795
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 8: like thought prop like yeat, yes, but.

796
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Speaker 1: You know Isaiah Win, Like is he a guard the whole?

797
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Speaker 8: Like the second you drafted him, you thought he might

798
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 8: be a guard because of his there's always a yeah,

799
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 8: but Forton, Yeah, he's the fastest guy. But you know,

800
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 8: we know about his wrists and you know, I mean

801
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 8: that was just the fact that he's really skinny, and

802
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 8: I think that's played out. He started both years on

803
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 8: IR he has you know, contact issues, doesn't is not

804
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 8: strong going up at the for the catch points.

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Speaker 3: I did see one really funny. You know, those whole

806
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: you know sometimes the memes, you know, they get you,

807
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: the tweets, you know, like you're like, all right whatever.

808
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 3: So it was kind of one that made me laugh.

809
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: It was the Patriots, you know, maneuvering around to keep

810
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: the Jets from getting a tackle from the first round.

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Speaker 1: Roderick Jones, Yeah.

812
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Speaker 3: And then Aaron.

813
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Speaker 1: Jess Checkers.

814
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: Yep, that one made me laugh.

815
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Speaker 1: I have to admit, Travis in West Virginia, why does

816
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: the audience give two craps whether or not you're positive

817
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: or negative. I've never understood that. I listened to the

818
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: show for information and entertainment. Your positivity or negativity is

819
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: your choice and has no effect on me or the team. Well,

820
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like you, of the

821
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: guy who lives in Kansas City and is in Kansas

822
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: City land. It has to hear from those fans. They

823
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: come here for a safe place, and then they get

824
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: here and then and then they get hit over the

825
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: head and it's like, oh even there.

826
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Speaker 3: I mean for me, and you know, I know you

827
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: make fun of me a lot, Fred for listening to

828
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 3: my shows. The shows that I like are the ones

829
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: that I feel like actually tell you what they think

830
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 3: as opposed to what you want to hear both ways.

831
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Speaker 3: I don't want negativity for the sake of negativity either,

832
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: like that that that to me is not balanced when

833
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: you just say like, well, yeah, like like I said,

834
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: I was somewhere between Evan and Fred yesterday, Like, but

835
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 3: that doesn't mean I'm right. That was just my view

836
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: of the game, you know, Like I don't I don't

837
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: want Fred's take just because that's quote a safe space.

838
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: And I don't want Evan's take because well, you know,

839
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: we want to be like Felgrim Mass you know, like

840
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: we just you know, Adam Jones, we just want to

841
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: like criticize every element. No, I don't think that's what

842
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 3: Evan was doing yesterday, And I don't want to listen really,

843
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: but I don't.

844
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 5: Feel like that's not like we This is the other

845
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 5: thing that I took a little exception to is like

846
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 5: I'm not negative for the sake of negative, Like right,

847
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 5: it they play a good game and they and they

848
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: put good stuff on film. I say it was good,

849
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 5: like the defense was good on Sunday. I've said that repeatedly.

850
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: The defense was good on Sunday. But if I have

851
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 5: to be I have to be objective, Like I can't

852
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 5: just sit here and be positive just because I like.

853
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: And so that's why all these people that are coming

854
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 5: after me, it's like, come after me. I guess like,

855
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna like change just because you want me

856
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 5: to be positive.

857
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 8: I tell you, like, you don't want that smoke.

858
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: It just it is what it is, like they are

859
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: what they are spiing Fresno. It was only a couple

860
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: of years ago that a bright eyed Mike, I won't

861
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: forget you, Brady through so turned his spurn back on Tom,

862
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: digging his heels deep into the turf to pledge the

863
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: leegions to Bill as the great rebuild began. Yet by

864
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: now the fire in Mike's mighty lighthouse has dwindled, having

865
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: all but gone out. The once great champ now a

866
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: study in Mopish, and in that vein we have likewise

867
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: seen a noteworthy turning of the tides. Within the daunting

868
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Speaker 1: mind of Evan Lazar, the once staunch apologist for young McClellan,

869
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: is now way down on Mac. Perhaps our esteemed all

870
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: twenty twur has seen enough to conclude, as some of

871
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: us have a long apine, that Mac's skill set and

872
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: not simply the situation around him, is probably not up

873
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: to the task of clutch play in the moments that

874
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: win or lose NFL games. I disagree with that, which

875
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: brings me to my question, what would Mac have to

876
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: do to reclaim Evan's love? A poem flowers? Maybe feed

877
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: and walk Atlas for a month? Could a Mac Jones

878
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: rap video do the trip? But seriously, what would he

879
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: have to do to redeem himself on the field? If

880
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Coach Lazar is indeed tapped to be New England's next OC,

881
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: the bridge between QB and his future nerd overlord must

882
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: be restored.

883
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the mess.

884
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 5: I what could Mac do? It's more like what could

885
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 5: Bill do for Mac? I think that would get me

886
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 5: more so on board. I I have been optimistic about

887
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 5: Mac since they drafted him and given him a fair

888
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: shake of thinking that that he could develop into a

889
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 5: better player than what he currently is. And I just

890
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 5: I don't know if that other shoe is gonna drop

891
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: with him. But what I do know what they could

892
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: do if this is the quarterback that they're gonna have,

893
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: is upgrade what's around him. And I think that's like

894
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 5: the chicken or the egg debate in my head that

895
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: I constantly have with this offense and with Mac Jones,

896
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: is should they rely on Mac getting better or should

897
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 5: they just accept the fact that this is who Mac

898
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 5: is and make the situation around him better? Because right

899
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 5: now they're middling it, which is to me why they're

900
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 5: eight to nine is because they're they're they're just kind

901
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: of right, They're they're playing it right down the middle

902
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 5: of saying, well, Mac might get a little bit better

903
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 5: and we're gonna maybe get a little bit better receive

904
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 5: for him, and like hopefully that but it just doesn't work.

905
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and right now this stuck. I mean, they're not

906
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: gonna do anything this year. I mean there's no number

907
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: one receiver that they're going to bring in this year.

908
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: So we have what we have this year. Hopefully Parker

909
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: comes back.

910
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: So you know, I got my eye on somebody. Oh

911
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch Cincinnati a little bit. Oh T Higgins,

912
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: I'm watching. I'm watching the Bengals and see what what

913
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: goes on. It didn't look, he was much involved the

914
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 3: other day he was.

915
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 5: He was actually targeted like eight times and zero catches.

916
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take I'll take my take back.

917
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 3: I only saw this was like ie the eight okay,

918
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: so I'll take that. I'll take that back. I saw

919
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: them throw into some guy number five. But that wasn't Higgins,

920
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: was it? Did Higgins change his number?

921
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 5: Was he really tall?

922
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: Maybe it was Higgins and it was he changed his number?

923
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 3: And that that got me because I was just watching

924
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: the little monitor over here on on red Zone. I

925
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: didn't actually see any of the real highlights of I

926
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 3: would definitely so never mind about that quick aside, Evan.

927
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 8: I think practice is in the bubble today. Michael Bublay,

928
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 8: Michael Buble, Sorry, the socios dot com field House.

929
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: Please say correctly.

930
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, eight five five past five

931
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Let's go to the phones.

932
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?

933
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 7: Hey, guys.

934
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 9: I think why a lot of the negative perception is

935
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 9: because it's the way that this particular group is. You

936
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 9: got snarky Paul, you know, sneaky negative deuce and then

937
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 9: not so sneaky negative Evan all coming out, and I

938
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 9: think what's leeding into it is their frustration with the team,

939
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 9: because they want the team to be good, so when

940
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 9: they're making their comments, that leads into it. And everybody

941
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 9: and only we only have Fred here trying to defend

942
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 9: against the three, whereas before it was just like it

943
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 9: was because Eric didn't count right right.

944
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: He had no opinion.

945
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: Exactly what is Fred defending? What is Fred defending?

946
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: Again?

947
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm defending Hope.

948
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: Okay, but we all have Hope. I think we all

949
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: said that right. It doesn't come on very encouraging after is.

950
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 9: What if people read your articles? You actually accent the

951
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 9: positive in your articles, but when you're on the radio,

952
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 9: it seems to come across more. It seems like you're

953
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 9: focusing more on the negative about what needs to be done,

954
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 9: what's lacking and stuff. But in your articles you say

955
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 9: positive stuff like Pop having his first experience, even Booty

956
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 9: getting some time, and like people need to read the

957
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 9: articles you guys write and listen to the show in

958
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 9: order to get the full picture.

959
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: I think that, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. I

960
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 5: wish that yesterday. My one critique of myself is that

961
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: I feel like in and after further review, I told

962
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: both sides of the story a little bit better in

963
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 5: terms of the chicken or the egg that I just

964
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 5: broke down of, Like, it's obviously it's not all Mac

965
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 5: Jones's fault that they lost on Sunday. No one's saying that.

966
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 5: But you have to call the film for what it is.

967
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you can acknowledge that there

968
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 5: was a lot of context of there's guys injured, they

969
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: probably could have done more in the off season to

970
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 5: help him, and this is where we're at. So thanks

971
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 5: for saying that, Todd, because I agree.

972
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 9: Forward, what's one thing that needs to change in order

973
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 9: for Mac to be successful that when we can have change,

974
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 9: like does he need to have Juju get healthy? Does

975
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 9: he need a goal line.

976
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: Back beat a good team? He needs to play better

977
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: all of that or.

978
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 9: Just can get like one or two things.

979
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 8: Only the team has to start beating good teams. I mean,

980
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 8: it's just you know, you have to break the rut

981
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 8: of the last three years, and that's you know. Look,

982
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 8: I mean, I mean, I love speeds email.

983
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: It was very well I think I think overall, thanks

984
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: for the call to they can't be constantly in third

985
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: and long and in obvious passing situations. You know that

986
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: there's things that have to happen to help Mac, and

987
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: then Mac needs to help himself.

988
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 8: It's both, which goes to you got to be productive

989
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 8: on first down or you're screwed.

990
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: You know. So it's just it's right back to Evan's thing.

991
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 8: But I don't know, just going back to the bigger point,

992
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 8: it's like, you know, I appreciate what Speed wrote. You know,

993
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 8: when I started here, we were coming off of the

994
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 8: sixth Super Bowl, and we've watched four seasons of five

995
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 8: hundred football. So I'm sorry that I'm not still just like,

996
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 8: isn't this awesome? Like, and I struggle to see people

997
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 8: who are still like that, Like we've been watching what

998
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 8: we've been watching, and I feel like, to Evan's point,

999
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 8: it's been like a slow motion car crash this year

1000
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 8: because a lot of the things that we talked about

1001
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 8: for six months were not addressed, and now they're coming

1002
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 8: home to roost and everyone wants us to be fine

1003
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 8: with it. And it's like when we're there talking about

1004
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 8: twenty five different tackles at the combine, being like they

1005
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 8: got to get one of these guys and instead, they

1006
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 8: draft a guy from what Eastern Michigan who was a

1007
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 8: left guard and try to make him.

1008
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 5: A tackle and then played him at right guard and

1009
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 5: then played him at.

1010
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: Right guard with like a week of meet while like the.

1011
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: One that was taken in the fourth round is starting

1012
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 3: right right to.

1013
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 8: Want Jones, who's a monster and looks like you know,

1014
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 8: you imagine when he was.

1015
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's going to be.

1016
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: But still it's I will.

1017
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 5: Say I in all fairness to Mac, like you know,

1018
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 5: the callers are asking like what's I am reserving like

1019
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 5: complete judgment until the guards are back like it because

1020
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 5: having the clean interior of the pocket for him in

1021
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: particular is so massive because he needs to step into

1022
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 5: the throws. He needs to step into it. And if

1023
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 5: those two guys can come in and be really rock

1024
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 5: solid up the middle with David Andrews, then it does

1025
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: change some things about their outlook.

1026
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: To me, I absolutely agree with that.

1027
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: And what we analyze is the game not like what's

1028
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: you know necessarily like I don't think anybody here is

1029
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: saying like it's time to pull the plug, like this

1030
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: is done, this is over. They tried this, it didn't work.

1031
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 3: It's done no, Like I think two weeks ago, we

1032
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: were talking about entering a season with hope that Bill

1033
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: O'Brien could help Mac Jones, that Adrian Klem could help

1034
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: the offensive line, and we'll see what these things do.

1035
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: I'm not going to just like give up on that

1036
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 3: hope after a game when Fred comes like, I just

1037
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: don't like the whole thing, like we're supposed to do

1038
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: X when we analyze. Like when if I was listening

1039
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: and I was completely you know, on the other side

1040
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: of the dial, and Fred was saying things that I

1041
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: agreed with, but I found out that he wasn't really

1042
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: thinking that, he was just telling me what I wanted

1043
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 3: to hear. Well, conversely, I was really down on the team,

1044
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: and I heard Evan saying a bunch of stuff about

1045
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: Mac Jones, you know, really didn't make that many plus

1046
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: throws in the game, and I'd agreed with me, But

1047
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: then I found out later that Evan was just being

1048
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: negative because he was trying to put some bad like

1049
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to listen to those shows. I don't

1050
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: want to listen to guys that don't tell me what

1051
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: they really think, you know, this whole thing like, well

1052
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: you're right, and then you accentuate that. No what, no

1053
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: one's like going out of their way to accentuate any

1054
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: element of anything. My big takeaway on Sunday was the

1055
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 3: defensive performance against a good offense. Someone else's takeaway may

1056
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: have been the offense just can't do it when it counts. Again,

1057
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: I don't think either one of those takeaways is wrong.

1058
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's what the fun of the

1059
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: show is.

1060
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 4: Though.

1061
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 8: It's like, who would have predicted what the takes would

1062
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 8: have been when we started that show yesterday? Like that,

1063
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 8: you know that.

1064
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: Wherever we don't talk about this stuff before we.

1065
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 8: Come now like and that's what's you know, fun all

1066
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 8: of a sudden. I mean, certainly we you know, the games,

1067
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 8: we watched the game together. You know, sometimes when Evan

1068
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 8: and Fred aren't there, you guys are away at away games.

1069
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 8: It's always interesting because you see different things, you know,

1070
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 8: and meanwhile, Paul and I are watching here. But I

1071
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 8: mean that's you know, that's what's good. It's never rehearsed,

1072
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 8: it's you know, how we feel.

1073
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: Anthony's in Seattle. What's up Anthony? Hey?

1074
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 10: What's up of my people?

1075
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: Hey? Hey? Listen?

1076
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 10: Am I allowed to say fist off. Sure, sure, all right, listen,

1077
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 10: I promise I'll be careful. I've never cussed on the

1078
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 10: show before. I'm not going to start today. I got

1079
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 10: two quick things. There's no way I'm going to be

1080
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 10: able to get all my thoughts out today. So I

1081
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 10: got one thing that I just one specific thing that

1082
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 10: I feel like hasn't been talked about, and then just

1083
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 10: kind of one summary thing that I think best illustrates

1084
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 10: my my frustration. But one thing that I think hasn't

1085
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 10: kind of an underrated bad decision that I'm getting tired

1086
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 10: of with Mac is when you get down. You got

1087
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 10: first and ten from the eighteen yard line. You got

1088
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 10: over a minute, you got plenty of time. I think

1089
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 10: we had a time out, but we might have not,

1090
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 10: but we didn't need one. We had plenty of time.

1091
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 10: And the first thing you do, I thought it was

1092
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 10: a Devonte Parker thing. Parker's not even in the game,

1093
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 10: and you sold the fifty to fifty fade to Booty.

1094
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 10: It's like he's got to fall out of love.

1095
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: With that throw.

1096
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 5: He actually he actually was open and in the ball.

1097
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 5: He didn't give him a chance on the ball, which

1098
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 5: I wonder if that's a Booty thing, Like, if that's

1099
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 5: Parker in that spot instead of Booty, I gotta feel

1100
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 5: like Mac puts that in bounds and let's Parker try

1101
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: to go get the booth ball. I actually thought Booty

1102
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: won the route and he sailed it over his head

1103
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 5: out of bounds, which is weird.

1104
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 10: Okay, I don't want to argue about that one the

1105
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 10: big thing, so I can get off the phone. But

1106
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 10: the reason I'm pissed off is because, Okay, if you

1107
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 10: were to take the four units Patriots offense, Patriots defense,

1108
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 10: Egles offense, Egos defense, I think everyone would agree who

1109
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 10: had the best game Patriots defense, yep. But I think

1110
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 10: if I was to list the four in my opinion,

1111
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 10: I think if I was to list the four in order,

1112
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 10: I think it would go Patriots defense, Patriots offense, Eagles defense,

1113
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 10: Eagles offense, and we steal find in a way to

1114
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 10: not win against these good teams. And that's the reason

1115
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 10: I'm pissed off. It's like, after going down fifteen, Oh,

1116
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 10: that's as thorough as we've out played a good team

1117
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 10: since Brady left, and we still find a way to

1118
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 10: not put it together. It's like you, rather, it's like

1119
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 10: Mac doesn't trust you get down with the eighteen yard line.

1120
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 10: You don't trust yourself to not trust yourself to throw

1121
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 10: like three to five good you know, quality passes in

1122
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 10: the middle of the field and go ahead.

1123
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 4: And punch it in.

1124
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 10: You want to get lucky and try to throw a

1125
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 10: fifty to fifty one, you know, And you know at

1126
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 10: that point in the game, they really didn't have an

1127
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 10: answer for a Hunter Henry in the middle of the field.

1128
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 10: I don't know, man, it's just it's getting old. We

1129
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 10: got to start winning these quality games obviously. You know,

1130
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 10: I got my Super Bowl prediction out there. I got

1131
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 10: high ass you know, you know, expectations for this team,

1132
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 10: and it's centered around this defense that did an excellent job.

1133
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 10: You know, it's time, man, It's time. That's all I

1134
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 10: got got.

1135
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: Okay, In terms of the offense, I think next three games,

1136
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: we'll have three opportunities quality games. You know, even without

1137
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that defense is for real. We'll have three

1138
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: good tests for this offense in after four games. Yeah,

1139
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: let's see.

1140
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 4: What we got. Well.

1141
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 8: I think just to respond to his I mean to

1142
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 8: his you know, ranking of the things in his turnovers,

1143
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 8: like you throw a pick six and a fumble that

1144
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 8: they score.

1145
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you know that's that was a That was

1146
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 3: the big message today.

1147
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: That's the big difference.

1148
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 3: You know, you hear David Andrews, you heard Hunter Henry.

1149
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 3: It's protecting the football and getting off to a faster start.

1150
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: And really, you got to do that. This is not

1151
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 3: a good defense you're facing Sunday night. This is a

1152
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: defense you need to score now the next two Fred's right, Jets, Dallas,

1153
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 3: those two defenses on the road run. But here's the thing,

1154
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: no picnic at all.

1155
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: It's not a great defense, but it is a great offense,

1156
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: and that's going to put pressure on our offense to

1157
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: keep up. Perhaps.

1158
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean if it's you know, if you

1159
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: lose like the Chargers did, then I will I won't

1160
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 3: sit here saying, well, you know, match, but if you

1161
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: can't get out of the low twenties again, like right,

1162
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: the other team just put third and four on.

1163
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: So, if you're right, if the Miami defense is not

1164
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: that good going off of what they did, we should

1165
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: be expected to do better score wise, certainly than we

1166
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: did in Week one.

1167
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: Right, And that's Mike's I think that's back to Mike's

1168
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: points of like you just have to protect the ball

1169
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: and play four quarters and not one.

1170
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, and would I would just say too generally, Like

1171
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 8: I mean I've said this many times on this show.

1172
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 8: It's about the division, you know, Like, like I'm not

1173
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 8: going to overreact to a Week one game against Philly

1174
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 8: either way. I Mean, that's why I kind of feel

1175
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 8: a little bit balanced about it. They're a unique team,

1176
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 8: They're a talented team that they've had all year to

1177
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 8: prepare for. But if you want to be successful, you

1178
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 8: got to win in the division. And this is you know,

1179
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 8: again to you haven't beaten them, You've had all this

1180
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 8: time to prepare for him. These are the teams you

1181
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 8: should know best. This is these are the teams that

1182
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 8: you should be built to beat so you can get.

1183
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: In the playoffs.

1184
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 8: So, you know, I'm feeling down the middle right now,

1185
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 8: but these next two games for me are the ones

1186
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 8: that are really going to matter.

1187
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: Mark's in Connecticut. What's up? Mark?

1188
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 7: Hey?

1189
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 11: Evan and che boy Mark. I just wanted to, you know,

1190
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 11: back Evan up here and just say that me and

1191
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 11: have talked about this on the Catch twenty two podcasts

1192
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 11: all over the offseason. They needed to get Matt Jones

1193
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 11: a number one receiver. They never did, and that's why

1194
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 11: it cost them the game on Sunday. I mean, if

1195
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 11: you have a legit number one guy, whoever it is,

1196
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 11: they make that catch like they Flowers would have made

1197
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 11: that catch. Whoever you want to put in there at

1198
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 11: the number one receiver would have made that catch.

1199
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: I think which catch are we talking about?

1200
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 7: The booty?

1201
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: The one on the side.

1202
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: And but just out of curiosity, then what would have happened, Well,

1203
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: it gives you, you know, you'd had.

1204
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: One more plays, yeah first and yeah White nine or something,

1205
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: and I.

1206
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 11: Just but you're going to stress the defense guys.

1207
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: Right, So maybe that number one option would have been covered.

1208
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: But it starts with that play. I mean, you've got

1209
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: to make those plays. You got to make those plays

1210
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: down the stretch, right, you know, and.

1211
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: The offense doesn't the offense that you know.

1212
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 11: You go back to twenty eighteen, why did we pick

1213
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 11: the dumbest wide receiver in the draft, Nikhil Harry? You

1214
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 11: had DK Metcalf there, you had a J Brown there

1215
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 11: at Deebo Samuel. Then you go to twenty nineteen. You

1216
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 11: don't move up two spots to get Jefferson. I mean,

1217
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 11: it's just time after time, and then you pick Taekwon Thornton.

1218
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 11: You could have had George Pickens. It's just again and

1219
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 11: again and again that Bill just can't for some reason

1220
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 11: picked the good wide receiver.

1221
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's crazy. It's crazy.

1222
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I have no argue. I have no argument

1223
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 3: with the draft.

1224
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: My crazy did not want George Pickens. I get the

1225
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: general point, But I just I loved George. He's a

1226
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: hot head, and he just seems I don't that's bad.

1227
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 8: It just seems volatile. I don't know. I just there's

1228
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 8: something that just seems like.

1229
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 3: But like over this, like Antonio Brown volatile.

1230
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: Uh no, but but but shades of that. I mean,

1231
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's Antonio Brown. But I don't know. There's just

1232
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: something about George Pickens that seems like.

1233
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I if that's true, then I would

1234
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: agree with you. I didn't know that about him.

1235
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: What is that Brown?

1236
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: They were making fun of the you guys that the

1237
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: suits with the shorts. That's a big that was a

1238
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: big thing on game day for players.

1239
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: It's the socks that kill me. It's sassy.

1240
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I don't I don't like that. Look,

1241
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: I think you want to try that one. I think

1242
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: Jamie Collins had it.

1243
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: It sounds all right. I had something like that. Yeah,

1244
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean he's he has his own fashion sense, Jamie Collins.

1245
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 12: Uh.

1246
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: Let's go to Brenton, Vermont. What's up brent.

1247
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 7: Hey, boys, how you guys doing today?

1248
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: Good? Good?

1249
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 7: The first thing I want to say is I cannot

1250
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 7: stand when Tony Romo comments not only the Patriots game,

1251
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 7: but Patriots game in particular. I cannot stand his wishy,

1252
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 7: washy crappy takes he has. So that's the first thing.

1253
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 7: But second thing, my main thing I want to call

1254
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 7: about is how do you guys feel about the NFL.

1255
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 7: I'm off bringing in these referees as full time employees

1256
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 7: because during that Patriots I counted like five or six

1257
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 7: calls that were huge game changers that would have helped

1258
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 7: us out in particular, and not very much so on

1259
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 7: the eagle side, not saying it's printed or anything like that. Yeah,

1260
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 7: So we could stop seeing these crappy which ruined games.

1261
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: I mean I have an example.

1262
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 7: Do I have an example?

1263
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1264
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 7: Oh no, I had a couple of bruis of me man,

1265
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 7: I can't think of one thing off the top of

1266
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 7: my head.

1267
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: That's what I thought.

1268
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 7: A couple holding calls that uh.

1269
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: Well, the holding call on on Hunter Henry may not

1270
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: have Actually it was on.

1271
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 3: Pharrell Brown, Yeah, Farrel Brown. Mike told me that far.

1272
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it definitely was what the film said. It

1273
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: was supposed to be eighty six. Eighty Henry wasn't holding

1274
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: on that play.

1275
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

1276
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: The ref called out the wrong number. It should have

1277
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: been eighty six.

1278
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 3: So, I mean, it was only a good drive going

1279
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: when the guy went and motion tripped and fell and

1280
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 3: got called for a chop block.

1281
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: That was the only egregious one. Listen tripped over Kelsey

1282
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: from it. And some crews are better than others, But

1283
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: with all the checks and balances in place these days,

1284
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: it's less of a factor than it used to be.

1285
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: I mean, how about having to go to replay for

1286
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 3: that last call on Kaishan Booty.

1287
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 8: Yeah right, I mean, I'm all for like trying to

1288
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 8: get better referee, but like, is there any assurance that

1289
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 8: making them full time would make it happen, like would make.

1290
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 3: Them This full time thing is one of the moment

1291
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: one of the most overrated things ever. You know, so

1292
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: if I'm just if I'm just a referee and I'm

1293
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: making two hundred and fifty thousand right there, I will

1294
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: be more focused on my calls on Sunday, like I'll

1295
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: be more prepared.

1296
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 8: It's still gonna happen super fast and you have to

1297
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 8: make a split second decision.

1298
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: I think the officiating stinks, as Fred will tell you.

1299
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: I've never seen a game that I thought was properly

1300
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: officiated in any sport. I just don't think at any level.

1301
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: I just don't think the games are fixed. I don't

1302
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: think it. I don't think that they stink against my team.

1303
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: That's the only difference I have for most fans.

1304
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 8: It's also the nature of the sport where you could

1305
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 8: probably call holding on pretty much any play, you know,

1306
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 8: like it's just there's it's such a subjective referee sport,

1307
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 8: whereas I feel like less sports, maybe a.

1308
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: Little bit less.

1309
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: I know basketball is tough. I mean, I really didn't

1310
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 3: think they officiated. Had anyone had much of an impact

1311
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: on the game at all. The other day either there

1312
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: was one. There was one that I thought the two

1313
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: point conversion at the Calvin Anderson hold, I think someone

1314
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 3: someone I didn't go back and look at it. So

1315
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: I didn't see it myself, but someone said that it

1316
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: was kind of ticky tech. But the federal brown one

1317
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: you told me was clear.

1318
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: It reached like over them in like it was a

1319
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: weird It was a weird kind of thing.

1320
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1321
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 7: Well, even if they were just to do like an

1322
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 7: instant replay, I mean, we got one hundred different angles

1323
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 7: with these cameras with four K resolution. I mean, I'm

1324
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 7: not saying stop the game for every single play, but

1325
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 7: I mean there's no reason why someone from the booths

1326
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 7: who can't like to see a blatant like call that

1327
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 7: is a game changer, be like, oh, hey, you guys

1328
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 7: miss this because I mean, there's only human on the field,

1329
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,959
Speaker 7: you know, Like, I don't blame them for missing things

1330
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 7: from time to time because they're only humans. And they

1331
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 7: only got two wide for one hundred different camera.

1332
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 11: Angles that we have in this day and age.

1333
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, the games take long enough, they have enough replace

1334
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: They shouldn't they shouldn't have to replay like that last

1335
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: call like that wasn't even really close to being impounds.

1336
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: I think they have enough problems with replay.

1337
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: Let's see Esteban all the way down from Costa Rica,

1338
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: he said, He says, I love the take and I

1339
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: love your show. No bs keeping it real great analysis

1340
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: in the offense from Evan Mike is amazing. Uh taking

1341
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: on the d and Paul and Fred, they are guys

1342
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: who keeps the thing realistic. Have you guys found out

1343
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: why Juju was out on the final play? Oh, we're

1344
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: gonna find out final play?

1345
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: How about the final So let's it's a good time

1346
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: to talk about that. So Bill was asked about Juju

1347
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: this morning and he said, we'll have an injury report.

1348
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: Later on a day see if he was injured. Maybe, yeah,

1349
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: give him an out.

1350
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 3: You know, was he was was the fact that he

1351
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: wasn't out there at the end of the game at

1352
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: all injury related. And Bill's answer was, well, you know,

1353
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 3: we'll get that injury report to you, you know, first.

1354
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 4: One of the week.

1355
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Speaker 3: You know, I kind of read that as to be Yeah,

1356
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see Juju Smith Schuster's name

1357
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: on an injury report today in some capacity. Now, I

1358
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: know there was a report, not a report, but there

1359
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 3: was a line of thought on my shows yesterday indicating

1360
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: that someone thinks that he could be going on ir

1361
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: I've heard that So if that happens, I think we'll

1362
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: find out at four o'clock.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to say I'm hoping for it, but

1364
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 8: it would just at least make me feel better that

1365
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 8: there's something going on and that they realized they need

1366
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 8: to hit the reset button on him, because it just

1367
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 8: it didn't look good.

1368
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: It didn't look good. It hasn't looked good all summer

1369
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 1: with him. Something something's up. Yeah, all right, Paul's foods here,

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Speaker 15: And we're back with the show within a show. I

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Speaker 15: am joined by Alex Francisco and Veronica Bahat back for

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01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 15: Part two repeat guests, Fantasy Football Punishment. However, before we

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Speaker 15: get to that, we got some trivia and the prizes

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Speaker 15: installment of the Game Day poster series and the first

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Speaker 15: ones I believe sold out or almost sold out online,

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Speaker 15: so these are a hot item. I believe this one

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Speaker 15: was done by a local tattoo artist in Rhode Island,

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Speaker 15: so it's a pretty cool, pretty cool thing, right there.

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Speaker 15: So all right, here are the questions. Question one for

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Speaker 15: Adam Viniti's game winning kick in Super Bowl thirty six,

1405
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 15: who was the holder all right, don't answer, don't answer.

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 15: I think that's a good one. Number two, how many

1407
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 15: receiving yards did Dion Branch have in Super Bowl thirty

1408
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,479
Speaker 15: nine that was against the Eagles? And number three, who

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01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 15: did Mac Jones throw his first career touchdown? Past two?

1410
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 15: And we actually had to google this one and watch

1411
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 15: the play before. So I don't think everybody's gonna get

1412
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 15: that one. But those are the questions. Send your answers

1413
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 15: into web radio at Patriots dot com and guys, let's

1414
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 15: get into it part two of the best fantasy football punishments.

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01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 15: You know, last week we had Danny talk about the

1416
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 15: clear bag and the loser has to wear a clear

1417
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 15: bag or puts an item in. We had the inanimate

1418
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 15: object you got take on a date. So, Alex, you

1419
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 15: look ready to go. What do you have?

1420
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to go.

1421
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 15: I feel like Veronica's Ronica. You want to go, I'm

1422
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 15: ready to go.

1423
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 3: I got it.

1424
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 16: So I was reading about one where the loser had

1425
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 16: to take the SAT and I just think that's such

1426
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 16: a cruel punishment because I don't think I could take

1427
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 16: the essay.

1428
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 15: I had a friend who had to do that before,

1429
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 15: like that was their punishment. I think it was the

1430
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 15: act and you had to get a certain score.

1431
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, I would put a score requirement on that because

1432
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 12: if you don't get it, you have to do it

1433
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 12: again until you, Like, I want people studying.

1434
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 16: I was going to say, does that mean you study

1435
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 16: all season?

1436
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 12: Just I think you get test prep.

1437
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: I think you pay for you get the big book.

1438
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 12: You just yeah, I don't want to do it again.

1439
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 15: I think if it be a little funny if you

1440
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 15: did the s S at which is what what is

1441
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 15: that middle schoolers used to get into, like boarding school

1442
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 15: or like.

1443
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 12: This isn't out of touch, Matista, what do you mean?

1444
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: What do you mean listen to public?

1445
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 15: Okay, okay, okay, yeah you get to imagine. All right,

1446
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 15: you're taking the test with college kids. You taking it

1447
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 15: with an eighth grader. We were just trying to go

1448
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 15: to high school. Chess player, deer Field. What prep school

1449
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 15: did you go to again? Kimball Union, Kimble Union Academy,

1450
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 15: Hockey hockey powerhouse. You didn't play hockey, no, I know,

1451
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 15: but I like to watch the game soccer team Oh yeah,

1452
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 15: very good soccer.

1453
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: All right.

1454
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 15: I got one, And when I said this, you guys

1455
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 15: gave me a weird look, I said, I have. I

1456
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 15: told you about the one with the peanut butter and

1457
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 15: the lookie guys got wide eyed.

1458
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 12: I did not, but I also got hungry because I'm

1459
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 12: starving and you made me do this before we got breakfast.

1460
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Speaker 15: Well hopefully this one, well, I don't know, maybe we'll

1461
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 15: make you younger. Loser needs to cover themselves in peanut

1462
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 15: butter and go to a dog park. And and I've

1463
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 15: I've heard about this one. I read it, But like,

1464
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 15: what would you do if you're just take making your

1465
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 15: pup and you just see a person just in like

1466
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 15: spandex covered in peanut butter.

1467
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: I have a dumb question.

1468
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 16: What if you're allergic to peanuts?

1469
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, what if you're allergic to peanuts and you just

1470
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 12: stroll to the dog park dogs?

1471
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 15: You could change it for that.

1472
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 16: If you're allergic to dogs, people are allergy dogs.

1473
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 15: Gets a punishment. It's not supposed to be.

1474
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: A love dogs.

1475
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 12: This is still so disgusting.

1476
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 15: I just think about like.

1477
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 12: I'm thinking bulldogs, French cheese, I mean those things.

1478
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 15: Do you have to walk there like you don't want

1479
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 15: to mess up the car? Do you put the peanut

1480
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 15: butter on?

1481
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 7: Oh?

1482
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 12: You would have to sit in a trash bag or something.

1483
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: You have to cut out, you wear like a and you.

1484
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 15: Put you just get covered in peanut. But I just

1485
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 15: and I just feel like you're just asking to get Karen.

1486
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 15: There's just gonna be some angry dog mom. I would

1487
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 15: have been. I think a lot of oh I know, i'd.

1488
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 12: Be a lot of strangers get into fights and altercations

1489
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 12: at dog parks. Imagine, So what if you get that.

1490
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 15: This is funny, it's a punishment.

1491
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: Bring your EpiPen.

1492
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 15: Somebody's gonna be there with the cameray next time. Don't lose,

1493
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 15: all right? I found another one as I got yeah,

1494
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 15: this is what I want to hear.

1495
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 5: The submission was there?

1496
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: The submission there was?

1497
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 15: This wasn't submission. This is just one on top fantacy

1498
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 15: football punch. It's loser has to play a US Open

1499
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 15: qualifier for golf. And I guess, like I guess anybody

1500
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 15: can like go to a qualify around but then there's

1501
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 15: like actually good golfers, So like if I went, i'd

1502
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 15: just be it'd be bad. I'm not the best golfer,

1503
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 15: but it'd be quite the experience.

1504
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 16: You could have a loser tryout for American idol that'd

1505
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 16: be embarrassing?

1506
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: Is that still American?

1507
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 5: I feel like it is, right, I don't know.

1508
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 15: All right, Alex, come on, you gotta have one, okay.

1509
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 12: I like the general theme of having to wear a

1510
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 12: ridiculous outfit out in public, like anything that's like, oh,

1511
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 12: dress a guy up and a crop top and he

1512
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 12: has to go parade himself around totally serious and a

1513
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 12: super public place, tour assassination like whatever you like.

1514
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 15: Public shame.

1515
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 12: Public shaming is always really funny because as many times

1516
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 12: as you have to say I lost my fantasy football league,

1517
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 12: the better.

1518
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's how I feel. Like what like with my

1519
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 15: friend in the Nacho lebre costume?

1520
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 12: Yeah, like twenty four hours in an eye hoop. Don't

1521
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 12: get me wrong, that sucks. But like, the only people

1522
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 12: you really have to fend off looks for are like

1523
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 12: your waitress and then the couple people that stop to

1524
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 12: ask you, Like, like, people aren't really going to be

1525
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 12: asking you what you're doing because they're probably leaving the

1526
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 12: eyepop in a normal amount.

1527
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 16: Of time, and public shame, nobody's asking.

1528
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 5: People are just judging.

1529
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 16: Yes, Like, no one's gonna stop and ask you you're

1530
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 16: just gonna get a dry losk.

1531
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 15: So what you're saying is you love the guy who

1532
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 15: had to go on the duck boat duck Boat tour

1533
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 15: and the duck costume. Definitely with the sign that says

1534
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 15: I duck at Fantasy Football. Yes, and he also had

1535
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 15: to do that four times in a row, which is abaz.

1536
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 12: Also anything to do with body hair removal, it was

1537
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 12: really funny. As a woman that like gets waxes, it

1538
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 12: hurts so bad. So the idea of a man just

1539
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 12: having hit his back wax or his chest wax is gold.

1540
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 16: You're very vulnerable too.

1541
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 5: It's a very vulnerable.

1542
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: State to be in.

1543
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 15: Like we had the piercnes and my friend he passed

1544
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 15: out and it was during Covidas.

1545
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: What did he get pears?

1546
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 15: Is he got his nipple piers. It was during COVID

1547
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 15: And so we walked into the tattoo parlor and they

1548
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 15: were like my friend was like no, like like they

1549
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 15: were like no, only one person and because it was COVID,

1550
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 15: and he literally had to have my friend go and

1551
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 15: like hold his hand, and we all stayed in the car.

1552
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: And we're like, how did they do this?

1553
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 15: We were like, oh my god, this sounds really painful,

1554
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 15: and my friend like comes out. He's like, hey, like

1555
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 15: so h yeah, no, he's he's not doing too well.

1556
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 15: The tattoo parlor said we can go in one by

1557
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 15: one because it was COVID, like depths COVID, and he's like,

1558
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 15: he passed out. They gave him some coca cola to

1559
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 15: get his blood sugar back up. Yeah, pepsi, pepsi and yeah,

1560
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 15: and so that was that and then he lost again

1561
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 15: and he'd had to do the nacho libre thing.

1562
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 12: And still rocking the nibble piercing.

1563
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:18,959
Speaker 15: No, he took it out immediately.

1564
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: Oh, you should have to wear it for a little while.

1565
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 15: And if he's listening to this, no, you still owe

1566
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 15: us a belly button piercing.

1567
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,480
Speaker 16: So yeah, he didn't forget noah, he didn't forget.

1568
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 15: Not the belly button. Yeah that's next. So oh my,

1569
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 15: but a piercing, piercing tattoos, all that stuff. That that's classic,

1570
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 15: right there, Ronka anything else?

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01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 16: I love the tattoo idea.

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01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: I do.

1573
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 16: I think as somebody would zero tattoos.

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01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it would be so bad.

1575
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 12: I have no tattoos, and that's why I hate it.

1576
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 12: I would get like that's where I would motivation. I

1577
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 12: would draw a line. I would say, I'm sorry, you

1578
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 12: can kick me out of the league.

1579
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 15: I'm not doing so that's that's a good question. What like,

1580
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 15: So you're like tattoo you lose, You're like, I'm at

1581
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 15: the league. I'm not doing it, like.

1582
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 16: I think for me, it's anything that needs to be

1583
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 16: like eaten, like people who make you eat something.

1584
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 12: I'll try anything twice, but I'm not cutting my hair.

1585
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 12: And I'm not getting a tattooed.

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01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 16: No, like if they if they want you to eat

1587
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 16: like I don't know, like a bug of some kind

1588
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 16: or something like that, like bad food.

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01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: No, thank you.

1590
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 12: Okay, I just thought of something that could be really funny.

1591
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 12: So this is something.

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01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 15: Okay.

1593
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 12: Background story is I went to middle school in high

1594
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 12: school with this kid that was absolutely outrageous, hilarious person

1595
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 12: but an absolute character. And I think his parents were

1596
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 12: going to drug test him for marijuana. So he came

1597
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 12: to school day and they were gonna do like the

1598
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 12: hair follicles. Oh yes, Like I was in eighth grade,

1599
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 12: so this is like his parents were doing like the

1600
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 12: hair follicle test. So this dude comes to school one

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01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 12: day with his eyebrows and his head completely sure, but uh.

1602
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 15: So, yeah, how funny would that be?

1603
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 12: He looked so outrageous that the thought of that being

1604
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 12: a punishment is a really funny one. You're like, your

1605
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 12: eyebrows will grow back, It'll be fine, but you will

1606
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 12: take years ridiculously. No, it only took a couple of

1607
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 12: months for this, dude, don't worry months.

1608
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 15: You say that like it's a.

1609
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 12: It was like two or three months growing all awkward.

1610
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,919
Speaker 12: He happened to get suspended from school in the process

1611
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 12: of it growing back, so a lot of it.

1612
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: He just got to spend that home. So by the

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: time he came back.

1614
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 15: Did he get suspended because he failed the test?

1615
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: I think?

1616
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 12: Oh no, this was that unrelated to school his parents

1617
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 12: were doing.

1618
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 16: Oh I was gonna say, I would purposely act out

1619
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 16: this is what you.

1620
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: Missed in public school.

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 15: Okay, love it, love it, love it all right, guys,

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Speaker 15: this is a good one, Veronica, pleasure. Thank you for joining.

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Speaker 15: You will be back, guys. If you have anything you

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 15: want to chat about, tweet it, tweeted, tweeted to al

1625
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 15: I got the burner, you know, thank you? Get that

1626
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 15: trivia and check out the poster series on patriots dot Com.

1627
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 15: We have a new reveal every Wednesday, I believe, so

1628
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 15: thank you, and let's get back to Patrit's unfiltered.

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01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: And now great moments in history. He says that are

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01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: any of you playing word?

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: I played? Do you play? Eric? Why not? Gets so upset?

1633
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: But well, the way you answered it, No, that's not.

1634
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,919
Speaker 1: Isn't that how we just said it? Is said, yes, absolutely,

1635
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: you were very nossily not how I said it in

1636
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: my head. I never tell you how I read it.

1637
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: I read it that. I have no time for that.

1638
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, he has plenty of time for it.

1639
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 3: He plays a bunch of other games like that.

1640
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody else is doing that one, right, all right?

1641
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you don't like why I read it?

1642
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: You don't like wordle Eric, I don't know. I've never

1643
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: done it, So then why are you so dismissive? I'm

1644
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: not so dismissive. You know, why do you think they

1645
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: chose five letter words? That's the most common number of

1646
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:44,839
Speaker 1: the English language.

1647
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 8: I don't know, but it's it's always maddening when they

1648
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 8: use a letter twice, which I don't like that.

1649
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,839
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I think they did that today.

1650
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 4: They did.

1651
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: Well, if you pick a letter, explain all the rules.

1652
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: If you're interested, go find out like for expance, Like

1653
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: if it was you, I'm so dismissive. I wasn't. Now

1654
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: you want to know about it. We're a little bit dismissing,

1655
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: just a little bit. That's another great moment. All right

1656
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: back here in Patriots Unfiltered eight five five Pats five

1657
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: hundred is the ACE ticket hotline, web radio at Patriots

1658
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: dot com is email address. As we told you at

1659
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, this is throwback week. Uh

1660
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins coming to town for a Sunday night game,

1661
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: but the team will be wearing their reds, their throwback reds,

1662
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: the once styled about in the eighties. So you know,

1663
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: we figured, hey, why not. We've got a Hall of Famer,

1664
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: Patriots Hall of Famer, NFL Hall of Famer right in

1665
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: the house. So let's bring in Andre Tippett to talk

1666
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: a little bit about, you know, the old days. And

1667
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: you know what he thinks about when he sees the

1668
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: team coming out in those reds. Hey Andre, how you doing?

1669
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 4: Hey Fred, what's happening? Thank you for having me on here.

1670
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: So you were red shirts what do you think.

1671
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 4: I love the uniform. I'm glad we we we we.

1672
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 17: Are focusing on showing it off early in the season too. Yeah,

1673
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 17: it's a great uniform. I mean, I think every team

1674
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 17: should be mandated to wear at least twice a year

1675
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 17: just to do that.

1676
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: They should be mandated to wear our uniform.

1677
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that'd be awesome too.

1678
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: I always thought that I love the red jersey too,

1679
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: But I would love to have an alternate, you know,

1680
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: current jersey in red with the white helmet, but the

1681
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: new logo, like that could be the alternate. Yeah, like

1682
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: an alternate Current uniform in addition to the throwback. I

1683
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: think that would be a sharp I think that would

1684
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: be sharp. The white helmet with the elvis in the

1685
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: red jersey. That's a good question. So you got the

1686
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 1: white helmet.

1687
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 8: See he took cares about these things like I do.

1688
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: The let me. We got into a big argument. Was

1689
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: there a time in the NFL where a player could

1690
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: have a different color grill, like, because I remember on

1691
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots some guys, I think so, some guys back

1692
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: in the day had white girls and some had red girls. No, no, never,

1693
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: you had to have one color that I'm wrong, But

1694
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: I thought I remember like some guys having red because

1695
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: we had read for a.

1696
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 17: While, right, yeah, we had we one year, I believe

1697
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 17: late eighties we had the red.

1698
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 3: Face mask, remember that, which was yeah, yeah, maybe the

1699
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 3: Hugh Millen era.

1700
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: So I love you, So let me ask when when

1701
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: you were a player, were uniforms a big deal? Like

1702
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: did you care, like if your uniform looked good or not?

1703
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: Like did you compare like, oh, I like, I like

1704
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: the charges uniform? You know, was that a big deal

1705
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: to players back then?

1706
01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 4: No, I'll tell you what.

1707
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 17: The only time I ever cared about my uniform was

1708
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 17: probably when we switched over to the new the one

1709
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 17: year that I that I got to play only because

1710
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 17: of the company who produced it.

1711
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 4: The pants were awful.

1712
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: Was that starter Apex Apex. It was nasty and I

1713
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: was like, what we're wrong with the pants?

1714
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 4: It just didn't They were hard to put on. It

1715
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 4: was the material was.

1716
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: Didn't give you enough support in the area. It was

1717
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: you pulled.

1718
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 4: You know, you want to put your stuff now.

1719
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 17: I'm gonna tell you, I didn't really care, but you

1720
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 17: do care about how you feel when you're running around

1721
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 17: out there.

1722
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 4: You want to make sure everything is in place. Yeah.

1723
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, and you know once you sent you up and go,

1724
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 17: now you go, but you're putting this stuff on it

1725
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 17: and all of a sudden, like leg doesn't feel right.

1726
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: You gotta get a razor and you're cutting something over here. Yeah,

1727
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, what is wrong with this up? Yeah?

1728
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: So that was APEX. I don't know how long they

1729
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: used apex.

1730
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 4: Not very long, probably two three years. Yeah.

1731
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: So so you're saying that guys didn't care about the

1732
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 1: look of the uniform, like, you know, no, what about

1733
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: what about numbers?

1734
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 8: How you ended up with fifty six, which is like

1735
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 8: an all time linebacker number. You're an all time linbeer?

1736
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: How did you end up with?

1737
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 17: I wanted I want to fit. People ask all the time.

1738
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 17: I was a big Thomas Henderson uh Dallas watching him

1739
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 17: do his thing out there. You know, he's a linebacker

1740
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 17: punt returning and you know, he was just clowning out

1741
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 17: there on the football field, and it kind of stood

1742
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 17: out to me and I actually when I got to Iowa,

1743
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 17: I was hoping I could get the number, and they

1744
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 17: said coach wants all his line all the defensive ends

1745
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 17: to be in ninety numbers and I'm like what, and

1746
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 17: but I didn't say anything. And then when I got here,

1747
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 17: you know what number you want? Right away they asked

1748
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 17: me what number you want? I said fifty six. Well

1749
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 17: I didn't realize their boy.

1750
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 4: Had got cut. Rod show was.

1751
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 17: Everybody was like everybody's favorite guy, and so here I am.

1752
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: The body wasn't even number.

1753
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 17: Body wasn't even cold. Yeah, this rookie coming in here

1754
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 17: with the number. They all gave me a funky look.

1755
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 17: But I wanted it because Thomas Thomas Anderson I never

1756
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 17: wrought the show.

1757
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what about Miami? So that's the throwbacks against

1758
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 3: the throwback teams. And you obviously had a million million

1759
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 3: games against Miami. Any particular ones that stood out.

1760
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 4: Ship all of them, any of them with Marino in.

1761
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 17: It, because you know you're like hitting him, Yeah, getting

1762
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 17: after him. Marino was obviously we all know he's a

1763
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 17: great player. He's a great football player. He's a tough basket.

1764
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 17: Just when you think you can intimidate him, you got

1765
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 17: him intimidate it.

1766
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 4: He's not intimidating.

1767
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 17: And I used to love watching the antics though, between

1768
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 17: him and Dwight Stevens because White was his uh center

1769
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 17: and I'm gonna tell you, if anybody got close to

1770
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 17: Marino got a sniff on him, he would look at

1771
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 17: He'd be yelling Dwight, Dwight, oh yeah, and d White

1772
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 17: would turn around and then he would prosecute guys. He

1773
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 17: would and I, you know if I'd laugh then, But

1774
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 17: I appreciated it now because you know, they had a

1775
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 17: pride about protecting their quarterback. They knew they had something

1776
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 17: special there with him. And you know, Dan and I

1777
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 17: have been amazing. I mean when I see him and

1778
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 17: I feel like, you know, a long list brother when

1779
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 17: I see him, Man, we have a long conversation. We talked,

1780
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 17: but I would try to hurt him.

1781
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 4: I wanted to. I wanted to do something to just.

1782
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 17: Because I knew he was you know, you let him

1783
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 17: back there along when he's gonna He.

1784
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: Wanted to hurt you in another way. Wanted to hurt you.

1785
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: On the score.

1786
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 17: He was dropping dimes like crazy, and you know, he

1787
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 17: had an unbelievable release, and obviously they practiced that, just

1788
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 17: like we practice tackling and you you practice running and

1789
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 17: walking through plays. He had a clock in his mind.

1790
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 17: One thousand and one, one thousand and two, one thousand

1791
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 17: three get rid of it, and it was like for

1792
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 17: us pass rush is trying to get to him. We

1793
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 17: you know, we had it in our ear what you know,

1794
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 17: how much time we're gonna have to get off blocks

1795
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 17: and get to him.

1796
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 4: And he was just he was He was amazing for.

1797
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: Even even after he tore his achilles and he came back,

1798
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, he was still good. After he came back.

1799
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 1: He was you know, he was never known as a

1800
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback, and it was probably a little less mobile

1801
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: when he came back, but still the release was there,

1802
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: and I think the anger went up a notch absolutely,

1803
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: you know, because you know I can't run at all.

1804
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: Now protect me even more, right.

1805
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he had great receivers. He always had.

1806
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 17: He always had great receivers, great backs that could catch

1807
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 17: out of the backfield, and the tight ends. They were

1808
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,440
Speaker 17: not the tight ends that we were fortunate to experience

1809
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,879
Speaker 17: here over over our time. But he had guys that were.

1810
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: He You say he had great receivers, But were any

1811
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 1: of his receivers Did any of them go in the

1812
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? They both went out that Moore was

1813
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: pretty good. I don't think anything more so I think

1814
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: he made them great. You know, you know, like and

1815
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: I you know, and I hate to say it because

1816
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: we're all talking about Mac now, but like, you know,

1817
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: we like Mac. But if Dan Marino was with Kendrick

1818
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: Bourne or he'd make him, he'd make him better, make

1819
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 1: him great. Yeah, make it great, Dan.

1820
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1821
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 17: Hey, Dan is one of the greatest quarterbacks to play.

1822
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: In the National Footbow Yeah, no doubt.

1823
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 17: And he had an unbelievable gun for an arm and

1824
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 17: the dude was was was tough too, man, I mean

1825
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 17: he he you know when we say that, and I mean,

1826
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 17: you got to be a tough guy to play this game.

1827
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 17: But also you got to have that tough mindedness when

1828
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,799
Speaker 17: you need these guys two minutes. Yeah, it's thirty seconds

1829
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 17: left in the fourth quarter and you got the ball.

1830
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 4: Can you make the play?

1831
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean confidence, Brady, do that?

1832
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 8: What was the game playing against him when you guys

1833
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 8: would face him all with what was the we We.

1834
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 17: Couldn't blow an assignment. We truly could not blow an

1835
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 17: assignment when we got ready to go down to Miami

1836
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 17: to play them, or if we were getting ready to

1837
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 17: play Miami. Uh, I swear to you on Saturdays where

1838
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 17: everybody else was showering up getting ready to get on

1839
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 17: the bus to get on the airplane to fly down there.

1840
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 4: We were down in the field on the in the

1841
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 4: in the red zone and Rod Russ was on us.

1842
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 17: You know, we were we were going through certain plays

1843
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 17: that they were good at and we were just we

1844
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 17: had to communicate. We had the you know, the motion

1845
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 17: we got trips left. All of a sudden, there's motion left.

1846
01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 17: I want to hear you guys communicating and and he

1847
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 17: needed to know that we were one hundred percent ready.

1848
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 17: And that's that was the key to playing those guys

1849
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 17: was you don't make a mistake because they're gonna do

1850
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 17: the same thing over and over again and they're gonna

1851
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 17: come back until you stop it.

1852
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 4: And and that's what we would do.

1853
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 17: We would we would practice and making sure that we

1854
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 17: all communicated, and believe it or not, we got better

1855
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 17: as as a as a defeam that way.

1856
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: You know, now you can talk strategy a little, but

1857
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 1: was like was the idea like you know, like controlled rush,

1858
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: you know, get him off PLoP, get him out of

1859
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: the pocket. Like was there a certain way that you

1860
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 1: were asked to go after him?

1861
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 17: Oh, you definitely wanted to get in his face because

1862
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 17: he didn't want anybody in his face. He didn't want

1863
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 17: he didn't want to be when he's releasing that ball.

1864
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 17: He wanted to have free, free rooms. And you know

1865
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 17: he when when when stuff was around him, he got

1866
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 17: really nervous about that.

1867
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: And you'd see, was there a effort to like, you know,

1868
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: run some stunts up the mid.

1869
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 4: A lot of stunts up the middle. Yeah.

1870
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 17: Uh, and and a lot of stuff coming from from

1871
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 17: from outside too, but but most of it heavy heavy

1872
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,759
Speaker 17: doses of up the middle stuff.

1873
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 8: How did you how did you guys put it together?

1874
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 8: In it in eighty five AFC Championship to get over the.

1875
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: Hump down there?

1876
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 4: You know, it was it was destiny, man, it really was.

1877
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 4: And it was.

1878
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 17: And we had a little luck that day because it

1879
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 17: rained and everyone kind of forgets that too, because we

1880
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 17: had planned to do a lot of passing, but because

1881
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 17: of the rain, it you know, we told the receivers

1882
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 17: they were going to have to do a little bit

1883
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 17: of blocking. But it was, you know, it was I

1884
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 17: think it was two teams coming together, veteran teams, and

1885
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 17: which guys were going to be the toughest, and that

1886
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 17: day we were the toughest, especially being there in Miami,

1887
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 17: the Orange Bowl, the Jinks and all that stuff. There

1888
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 17: were so many things that were happening that we had

1889
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 17: an opportunity to put the bed.

1890
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 4: And it happened.

1891
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 17: I mean, we we were solid. We had some good

1892
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 17: football players out there on the field that they offensively, defensively,

1893
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 17: Guys that could run the ball, Guys that could catch

1894
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 17: the ball if we when we did throw it.

1895
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 4: But we uh we we we.

1896
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 17: You know, you're looking at Mossey Tatupu, You're looking at

1897
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 17: Craig James, You're looking at Tony Collins, you know. Defensively,

1898
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 17: you know, we were you know, Clayborne and and and

1899
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:21,879
Speaker 17: Ronnie la Pet, the backers be Donnie Nelly, Lester Williams.

1900
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 17: Lester Williams was fired up that week because he was

1901
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 17: from that. We actually had four guys or three guys

1902
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 17: from the U that were on the team, Fred uh,

1903
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 17: Fred Marion, Ronnie Lapet, Lester Way. So they were fired

1904
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 17: up from that. So we had all kinds of stuff.

1905
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, what was it about the because you guys won

1906
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 8: what three road games right to get to the Super

1907
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 8: Running You're the first team to do it.

1908
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean, what was it about that team?

1909
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 13: Then?

1910
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 8: You guys were able to win on the road like

1911
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 8: that get to the super Bowl.

1912
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 17: It was I'm gonna tell you it was. It was

1913
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 17: Comma Camma was good that year for us.

1914
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 4: It really was. It was.

1915
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 17: You know, we had lost to Miami that Monday night game.

1916
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 17: Ye forget when it was. And I remember and I

1917
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 17: tell story all the time because it kind of gave

1918
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,600
Speaker 17: me chills to night because I'm sitting up there and

1919
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 17: I'm tripping.

1920
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:05,919
Speaker 4: I'm like this dude talking about.

1921
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 17: But Coach Barrier pulled us all together and you know

1922
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 17: he was He stood around and he looked around at

1923
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 17: us and he says, look, man, I just want to

1924
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 17: say one thing to you. We've been delayed, but we

1925
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 17: will not be denied this year. And I want you

1926
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 17: all to think about this game because it's gonna come

1927
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 17: back to us. And I'm kind of kind of giving

1928
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 17: the side eye a little bit, and the hell was

1929
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 17: he talking about?

1930
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 4: But when it's all set and done, you know, we.

1931
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 17: We do the things, the little things that we were

1932
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 17: talking about from the beginning of training camp, and the

1933
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 17: turnovers were big. Tackling was important, defense, stopping giving the

1934
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 17: ball back to the offense, and all of a sudden boom,

1935
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 17: we make the playoffs as a wild card team. We

1936
01:26:55,280 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 17: had battles with the Jets that year, and then we

1937
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 17: beat them at the Meadowlands, and then.

1938
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 4: We got to go to West Coast to play the Raiders.

1939
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 17: You know, you got the Sullivan's that are pissed off

1940
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 17: at the davis Is about things. The things are going

1941
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 17: on and we don't know about secretly, and then we

1942
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 17: go out there and we get into a great battle

1943
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 17: with those guys and we again, you know, we got

1944
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 17: a team full of tough guys because everybody's playing and

1945
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 17: then lo and behold, guys, we got a chance now

1946
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 17: to go back to Miami and here it goes.

1947
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 4: You know, you're thinking back to what.

1948
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 17: Raymond Berry said and we were like, wow, this dude

1949
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 17: was kind of clairvoyant a little bit, you know, and

1950
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 17: he had something going on there.

1951
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 4: But it was pretty cool.

1952
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: And then you hit the Bears and I know that's bad.

1953
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: But is there any now you look back, is there

1954
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 1: anything that the Patriots could have done in that game

1955
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: to make it a better game that they didn't do?

1956
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: Like maybe not starting Tonyson. No, I don't know, no, no,

1957
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: I know, but like, like, is there anything that like

1958
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: you go back. It's like, man, I wish we had

1959
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: just done.

1960
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 17: He the thing that I here all the time from

1961
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 17: all teammates, like we should have started. We should have

1962
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 17: started Grogan. Because it's funny what people remember now. I

1963
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 17: don't remember anything other than the fact that we played

1964
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 17: the game and we lost, but everybody has so many

1965
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 17: more vivid memories. And they were like, well, don't you

1966
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 17: remember Tony was sick all week, Grogan was playing, and

1967
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 17: Grogan was ready.

1968
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 4: We should have put Grogan out there. And I was like,

1969
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 4: so I.

1970
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: Didn't know.

1971
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, but that was but you.

1972
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 17: Know, we because we didn't go against number ones. We

1973
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 17: all were going against number too often, so we didn't.

1974
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 17: I mean, we were out there getting ready, We're doing

1975
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 17: out there. But all of a sudden, he said, yeah,

1976
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 17: remember you know Tony was sick. I'm like, no, ship,

1977
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 17: we put him out there to start and he we

1978
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 17: just set ourselves up.

1979
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 3: He wasn't in the game very long.

1980
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 17: But it's you know, and then you throw Grogan in there,

1981
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 17: you know, after you know, these guys are like, you

1982
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 17: know they see blood in the water. Now on it's now, oh,

1983
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 17: now you're known throw Grogan in there, now, Yeah, you

1984
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 17: should let him go in there from the beginning. But

1985
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 17: that's the only thing that I mean, I've heard.

1986
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: From yeah team.

1987
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 3: The only thing I remember, and that was my senior

1988
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: year in high school. And I tell this to you

1989
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 3: guys all the time. I was Joe fin you know,

1990
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 3: I was all in, you know, like they're gonna do it,

1991
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna do it.

1992
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 1: It's good.

1993
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 3: Like you remember all the turnovers that you guys were

1994
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 3: creating in the playoffs that year, I want to say,

1995
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 3: seventeen turnovers, you know, and then first player of the game,

1996
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 3: Walter Payton, Hall of Famer Walter Payton. We got the

1997
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 3: ball with the twenty hours.

1998
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: I told you that, tell me it's gonna happen. And

1999
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: then we had to kick a field goals three nothing.

2000
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: That's that's all, you know, Like Tip says, I don't

2001
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 3: remember anything about it other than we played and we lost.

2002
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 3: That's all I remember. I wiped out the other fifty

2003
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 3: eight minutes.

2004
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 4: Well, we played them early in the year, Sodia Field.

2005
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 4: What do we lose?

2006
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 3: I thought, twenty one twenty seven?

2007
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 4: So he played there nothing.

2008
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 3: Craig James ninety yeard touchdown.

2009
01:29:55,439 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 17: They had nothing like they were twenty I'm mean, they

2010
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 17: were just a team. I mean, they were a team

2011
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 17: that you know what, they got better turnovers, they held

2012
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 17: onto the ball a little bit better than they did

2013
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 17: some some things, and it went their way. So we

2014
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 17: lost in sodier fields. So it was like, oh, that's

2015
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 17: a football it's just a football team.

2016
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 4: But all of a sudden, you.

2017
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 17: Don't know about how they almost murdered guys on the Rams,

2018
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 17: murdered the quarterback in the running brock, and they were

2019
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 17: just knocking people.

2020
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 4: They started knocking.

2021
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 17: People out, and it's just all of a sudden, they

2022
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 17: just started turning up the heat.

2023
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 4: And so we're getting ready to play the Bears is like.

2024
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 17: Oh, yeah, we owed him anyway, you know, we this

2025
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 17: is one of those those games. You know, they were

2026
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 17: a little bit better than us, but we're much better now.

2027
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 17: And we had no idea turning up like that. Well,

2028
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 17: they turned up that forty six defense and all of

2029
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,759
Speaker 17: a sudden, you know, our guys don't know who to stop,

2030
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 17: and yeah, well yeah, you started looking at some guys

2031
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 17: out there that are kind of throwing lookout blocks too,

2032
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 17: and they're like, what the hell is going on here?

2033
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 17: And you know, you take that, you take your head off.

2034
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 17: I tell people all the time I go to I

2035
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 17: fly out to Chicago to see my oldest daughter. Man,

2036
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 17: I get shell shocked every time I go through the

2037
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 17: airport because I think people are looking at me and laughing.

2038
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 17: You know, he was on the Patriots. His ass we kicked.

2039
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: So getting back to the uniforms, the old logo pat Patriot?

2040
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Did you like that logo?

2041
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 17: Love that you love love that logo? You love that

2042
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 17: log Yes, sir, it was uh. I never you know,

2043
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 17: it's funny. I had never seen the logo as a kid.

2044
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 17: I knew growing up Jets, Giants, Cowboys, stealers, the Rams.

2045
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it.

2046
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 4: Really who I really paid any attention to.

2047
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 17: And all of a sudden I get drafted by the

2048
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 17: Patriots and I'm like, hell, what did the uniform look like?

2049
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 17: But when I get here and I'm like, oh, that's cool,

2050
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 17: that's pat Patriot.

2051
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 4: You liked it.

2052
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 1: I see, I never liked it.

2053
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 4: I never liked helmet.

2054
01:31:58,120 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: I never liked it.

2055
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 4: I did call the guy John Hanna. I said it

2056
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 4: look like John Hannah.

2057
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you got to Foxboro State, Well back then,

2058
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,600
Speaker 1: I think it was Sullivan's No, it was when you

2059
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 1: got what did you think of the stadium when you

2060
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: got here? That's not Iowa? I who was it?

2061
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 17: One of my teammates said, holy cow, my college Yeah better, Oh.

2062
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, suited play than here.

2063
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2064
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: I probably played my better high school.

2065
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 4: I was going to say that some guys had better

2066
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 4: high school stadiums.

2067
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 17: Again, I was like, all right, this is what we

2068
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 17: got to play, and I'm just gonna suit up and play.

2069
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 4: And I was like, wow, this is different.

2070
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is different.

2071
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 17: I mean Connects Stadium was like, you know, we got

2072
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 17: sixty thousand people up in there in the place, but

2073
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 17: it was a stadium.

2074
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2075
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:46,879
Speaker 1: I mean back then there were a lot of dumps,

2076
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: but this was one of them. You know, it was

2077
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 1: our john Yeah, but it was all dump, absolutely true.

2078
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 3: Do you have to you have to play early at

2079
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 3: Shay Stadium before they moved to the Middlelands, Right?

2080
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 4: I did that dump? That was that was That was

2081
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 4: an eyesore. That was bad.

2082
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 17: I played my rookie year there, my rookie year, maybe

2083
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 17: my second year there.

2084
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2085
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: And you probably played in War Memorial Stadium in Baltimore.

2086
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 3: Yep.

2087
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 4: That was yep, yep.

2088
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 3: So I remember that that's another one. That's good one.

2089
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 4: Fred. Yeah.

2090
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: I mean even I had a lower my head going

2091
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 1: in through the dugout to the locker room because the

2092
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: pipes were.

2093
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 17: Oh my god, I thought the some of those I

2094
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 17: thought rats were up there.

2095
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm sure they were. Yeah.

2096
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: So anyway, it's great. We just thought we'd bring in.

2097
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: It is throwback week. They're going to be wearing their reds.

2098
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I know what a lot of people

2099
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: think of Patriots in red jerseys. It's Andre Tippett, It's

2100
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: John Hannah and maybe Steve Grogan. I think those are

2101
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 1: the three right, without question. That's me.

2102
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 8: I was ten years old in eighty six and living

2103
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 8: around here. That was that was the Patriots.

2104
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's a great uniform, and I'm, like I said,

2105
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 17: I'm so glad that we are bringing.

2106
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 3: It's more posible Rod show.

2107
01:33:58,080 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 4: That should be.

2108
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 17: It's should be awesome to see just to see that,

2109
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 17: and I'm sure the players are gonna love having pictures

2110
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 17: and photos of it.

2111
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and the old that's a big thing now.

2112
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you probably see it these arrival

2113
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: photos with these guys, and they i mean, they get

2114
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: mad at us if they don't get their photo taken.

2115
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's a whole new thing, you know, it's unbelievable.

2116
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break. Thanks Andre, Thank you.

2117
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: Guys can get back upstairs. We'll be right back after this.

2118
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Speaker 1: All right. Back here and Patriots Unfiltered. Thank you to

2153
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: Andre Tippet for coming back. And I know, uh he

2154
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,719
Speaker 1: used some salty language, but when you're with Andre Tippett,

2155
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: you don't tell him what to say, So if he

2156
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: wants to drop some some words, go for it. But

2157
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 1: good stories, that's good stuff. Evan's back and where is

2158
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: he back from e.

2159
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 4: Then has returned, and has returned, has returned.

2160
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 1: The All right, Evan, what do we got?

2161
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 5: Well, I have to say, going from Andre Tippett to

2162
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 5: the gringe over here is a pretty big change. God

2163
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 5: it that stretching period was horrible, and that stretching period

2164
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 5: did not have Trent Brown present with the Patriots. The

2165
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 5: rest of the rest of the team was there, present

2166
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 5: and accounted for, including Ian Book sporting a Matt Corral nineteen.

2167
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 5: So they're just passing the nineteen Jersey round. But yeah,

2168
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 5: no Trent Brown. Obviously, I don't want to speculate too much,

2169
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 5: but I would say maybe veteran rest right like each Wednesday,

2170
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 5: And yeah, I could see that, But we'll get the

2171
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 5: injury report at the end of the day and we'll see.

2172
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 5: But Juju out there, the two guards out there, stranger

2173
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 5: on when you out there, Parker out there? You know,

2174
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 5: so everybody's practicing.

2175
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 1: Did you get eyes on, Juju?

2176
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 5: I did?

2177
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 3: How did you think you looked?

2178
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 5: It was just stretching. So I'm not going to take

2179
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 5: too much away from.

2180
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 3: Not even what I saw going back and forth any

2181
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 3: because when you left I sort of fixated on Bill's

2182
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 3: answer to that question this morning, Well, was you know

2183
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 3: the injury report book. I thought there was a chance

2184
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 3: that maybe wouldn't see him at practice and he was

2185
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 3: gonna go on i R which some people speculated about

2186
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 3: yesterday on the radio, but probably a good sign that

2187
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 3: he was out there anyway with the irs probably off

2188
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 3: the table immediately.

2189
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, So we were in the bubble. In

2190
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:21,920
Speaker 5: the bubble, no same same media contingent.

2191
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 3: Best grousing you guys would dry.

2192
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 5: There was, there was less rest grousing you drive over.

2193
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 5: But a funny moment, funny funny moment, so that we

2194
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 5: we were in the in the front entrance of the

2195
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 5: Socio field house, and you know how if you guys

2196
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 5: have been there, I'm sure there's there's glass windows right

2197
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 5: so you can see into the bubble from the parking lot.

2198
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,600
Speaker 5: And we were told to face the other direction.

2199
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:53,759
Speaker 3: So that I don't want that face looking at those dice.

2200
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 5: Face the direction so you could so you couldn't see

2201
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 5: the walk through, So our back was to the players.

2202
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 3: I think that's specifically for you.

2203
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: That's out of respect. Anybody's looking in the mir.

2204
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 5: There, I am standing underneath the thankfully it was underneath

2205
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 5: I wasn't getting rained on looking at bass pro and

2206
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 5: uh and not looking at what was going on on

2207
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 5: the field, So that that was a good moment.

2208
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 8: That's funny with someone like monitoring you making sure no

2209
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 8: one glimpsed.

2210
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 3: Aaron Hey who Aaron Ice front Ice front Ice front.

2211
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 1: It was.

2212
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 8: It's fun It's embarrassing, but yeah, it was.

2213
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 5: It was quick.

2214
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 3: When you think of it that way, it is kind

2215
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 3: of embarrassing, like turn you back on.

2216
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 5: Well because usually prison usually when we go out to

2217
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,759
Speaker 5: practice at the in the in the bubble, we park

2218
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 5: in the in the closed parking lot and then wade

2219
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 5: outside and then they let us in like a side door.

2220
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 5: But today I think because it was already raining, they

2221
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 5: allowed us to stand underneath the question.

2222
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: Is there an NFL rule that teams have to allow

2223
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 1: the media at practice? Yes, yeah, there is, yeah, And

2224
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: obviously there's no rule as to the duration.

2225
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 5: There is guidelines, like you know how certain days we

2226
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 5: get a little bit more than stretching, we get that

2227
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:25,440
Speaker 5: opening like positional drill period there. It's it's like expected

2228
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 5: or like asked, very nicely worded, but very strongly, what are.

2229
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 1: We doing here with this with this pract because you

2230
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 1: can't see anything. I mean, really, it's only a time

2231
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 1: to take attendance, so correct. So if the team just

2232
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: tells us after practice, these are the guys that participated.

2233
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,800
Speaker 1: What else do the media need to see at this point?

2234
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 5: There are sometimes, you know, when we get the extra time,

2235
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 5: obviously you can see there's are things that you can

2236
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 5: take away from those positional drills, like who's participating in

2237
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 5: them and all that kind of stuff. I would say

2238
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 5: the only other thing that that you can kind of

2239
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 5: glean is, you know, just certain things about like you know,

2240
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 5: Paul's question about juju, like how our guys moving, you know,

2241
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,759
Speaker 5: does a guy have a brace now that he didn't

2242
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 5: have before the game, or like you little things like that.

2243
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 1: So do you think that's the reason why the league

2244
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: says you have to allow the media practice for that reason?

2245
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,799
Speaker 5: No, I think the main reason why the media pushes

2246
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 5: for practice.

2247
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not saying that the media should

2248
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: push for everything they can get. I'm saying, why does

2249
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 1: the league, yeah, make them?

2250
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 5: I think the main thing that we've always heard is

2251
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 5: that the idea of letting us in practice is to

2252
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 5: publicize the team to literally.

2253
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 3: From the team, you guys cover the team to have

2254
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 3: as much information.

2255
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 5: To publicize the team, and so for a lot of

2256
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 5: media pictures video of practice, like you know you talk

2257
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 5: about like the new Channel five and the news stations

2258
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 5: and things like that, they use that as b roll

2259
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 5: for their packages on the news. So if you're not

2260
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 5: allowed to go out to practice at all, then you

2261
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 5: are are you know, recycling old b roll or have

2262
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 5: no b roll or whatever.

2263
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,640
Speaker 1: Teams could supply it for, you know, pool reporters. I

2264
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just like the media. No, no, I

2265
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 1: just there's nothing. I don't know. No, well, I wonder

2266
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 1: what is meaningful watch practice? You can make evaluations, But

2267
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: then once the season starts, I get where teams they

2268
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: don't want the media see why we're prepared.

2269
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 3: Do you think the media wants them to see training

2270
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 3: camp any more than anything else? Well, I think it

2271
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 3: is what it is if.

2272
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean, the media should want to see everything that

2273
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 1: they were right, they can see, right, But I can

2274
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 1: understand the team saying we're not going to let you

2275
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: watch our practice. Well, what's it like in other teams?

2276
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 1: That's what I have. Some teams are open, some teams

2277
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 1: like all practice.

2278
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 3: I don't know anymore, that's the way, that's the way it.

2279
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 5: Was usually, Like I know, like in Cincinnati, they sometimes

2280
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 5: get access until eleven on eleven, like team drills start,

2281
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 5: and so maybe that's like the first fifteen to twenty

2282
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 5: minutes instead.

2283
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,560
Speaker 3: It's definitely changed over the years too, because I know

2284
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,080
Speaker 3: there were some that were open. But like even like

2285
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 3: last week, as an example of what Evan's talking about,

2286
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 3: based on a lot of people, Evan included that told

2287
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 3: me that cold Strange looks like a guy who one

2288
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 3: day looked like he did more than another day because

2289
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 3: it looked like he couldn't do it back to back days,

2290
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 3: the same sort of getting out of his stance and

2291
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 3: the explosiveness. There was a chance that he wasn't going

2292
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 3: to play.

2293
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, certainly DeVante Parker last.

2294
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 3: Week, everybody was in agreement. Yeah, he didn't look great.

2295
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 5: Parker did basically did nothing other than stretch in front

2296
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 5: of us. So those are the little things. I mean,

2297
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 5: I don't I don't really like I'm not a big

2298
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 5: practice guy either, Like it's not like something that I

2299
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 5: find like super important to cover. But obviously there is

2300
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 5: access to it, so we we take the actions you.

2301
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: Have to take what they give you.

2302
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I agree with the larger point Freddie about

2303
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 3: like how valuable is it?

2304
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 4: You know whatever.

2305
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: So media was okay, no, no, no croud other than

2306
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: having to know, you know, coming today. So that's and

2307
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 1: the release they made a point to say Chick fil

2308
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: A snacks. So I'm wondering.

2309
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 8: Leftover dipping sausage, wondering why the sauces left over camp,

2310
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:17,720
Speaker 8: why did distinction between just as.

2311
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 3: There were no sandwiches, but there was a nine thousand packages.

2312
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:20,640
Speaker 1: I was excited because I.

2313
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 8: Went, you know, they're doing the early media availabilities, and

2314
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 8: so I went to the press conferences last week and

2315
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 8: they had some some left over.

2316
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: They still had some extra sandwiches.

2317
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, I would say that I did the main grousing.

2318
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 5: If we if we really want to get into grousing,

2319
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 5: the schedule with the podium set up and everything like

2320
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:40,839
Speaker 5: that is causing some issues.

2321
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 1: I would say, doing the podiums before practice.

2322
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 5: And I don't actually the podiums before practice. I don't

2323
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 5: think our main concern is the podiums in between practice

2324
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 5: and open locker room because a lot of us, myself included,

2325
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 5: usually used that time to write and do things that

2326
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 5: we have there do later in the week, and so

2327
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 5: now it's like every couple every hour, it feels like

2328
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 5: you have something.

2329
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: Else to Why they did it that way this year.

2330
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:10,799
Speaker 5: Because of the new location of the media workroom.

2331
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 1: Which is an issue that needs to probably be addressed wherever.

2332
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 8: And the new media workroom is going to be because

2333
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 8: you can't get to the locker room from there, it's

2334
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 8: going to always be escort.

2335
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 1: But I'm sure once they do a permanent location it'll Yeah, you.

2336
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 3: Know, but to that point, and I actually agree with

2337
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 3: the grousing for a change.

2338
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 1: Do you need to do both?

2339
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 3: No, Like, just do one set of podiums. I don't

2340
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 3: care if it's if it's after Bill or if it's.

2341
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 5: After Bill is fine because you're already there.

2342
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah that's prightect. And then you've got some time to

2343
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,440
Speaker 1: write while they're a practice.

2344
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 3: And yeah, you get a chance to go get something

2345
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 3: to eat. I can sit down and write, and now

2346
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 3: I go to the locker room and finish up. Yeah,

2347
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,680
Speaker 3: you know. This way, it's like what you described. If

2348
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 3: you're like you're always doing something, Let's face it, the

2349
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 3: vast majority of podiums you don't need to be at

2350
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 3: but you got to go if they're going to do it,

2351
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 3: you know, like you can't just say, well, I'm going

2352
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 3: to go and get something to eat and then you know,

2353
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 3: David Andrews was talking or whatever.

2354
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 5: So yeah, I know that nobody cares about any of that,

2355
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 5: and no one.

2356
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: Should know.

2357
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, that that that gap between practice at one

2358
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:18,639
Speaker 5: and then open locker room at fourth. You can get

2359
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 5: a lot done in that gap if you're just sitting

2360
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,799
Speaker 5: down there with your headphones on and writing. So I understand,

2361
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 5: I understand the open locker.

2362
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 3: Room that late is that that's a trend that started

2363
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 3: probably I don't know, five or ten years ago, and

2364
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 3: it's been a bad one for the media.

2365
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 8: It's really changed even in my time there. I mean,

2366
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 8: the Monday one was an absolute dud.

2367
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,559
Speaker 1: Well, like I I've always, you know, been a proponent

2368
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: of no one should go into the locker room period

2369
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:50,280
Speaker 1: except for players, except for the team. I'm with you

2370
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: on that, and then they should mandate a room outside

2371
01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: the locker room that players have to go in to

2372
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 1: be interviewed. But I believe that the locker room should

2373
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,639
Speaker 1: be a sacred place. It should be a safe space

2374
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 1: for the players.

2375
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 3: Can change I'm talking about the time. Yeah, not your

2376
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 3: place yet, Like I don't care if it's locker room

2377
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 3: or well, I agree with you. I don't think we

2378
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 3: should be in the locker room joby. You and I

2379
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 3: have always been lockstep on that. Yeah, but it's the

2380
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 3: fact that it's like five o'clock or four forty five

2381
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 3: whatever it is now they.

2382
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: Do they do it on their way home. Yeah, I mean,

2383
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: it's just not it's not really scrums anymore.

2384
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 8: You know, it's more about like people do, like what

2385
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 8: Evan does, you know, talk to players, get you know,

2386
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 8: stories that maybe even you're not writing, you're just kind

2387
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 8: of getting some behind the scenes kind of you know,

2388
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 8: off the record kind of stuff. And you know, there

2389
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 8: are a couple of little scrums of you know, just

2390
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 8: news stations getting an interview or two. Nothing crazy. But

2391
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 8: it's it's not like they.

2392
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 3: Don't even have scrums anymore.

2393
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 1: Apparently it's not tailored or TV anymore. It's tailored more

2394
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: for the individual writer that has a certain story they're

2395
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: working on, makes a request, Hey can I get a

2396
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: one on one with Hunter Henry?

2397
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2398
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 1: Sure during open cockerage, and so they set it up

2399
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 1: that way. It's it's it's still works for that, but

2400
01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 1: if you're just a camera guy shooting for the six

2401
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 1: o'clock news, it can be tough.

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01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 4: It was.

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01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,560
Speaker 8: I mean, especially for that Monday one where it was,

2404
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 8: you know, the end of the day, Monday, nothing going

2405
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 8: on here, those you know, those those all those news

2406
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 8: stations that came down with.

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01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 3: Today would be different. Wednesday and Friday.

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01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 8: Friday can be good to just because everybody's a little

2409
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 8: more relaxed than the definitely relaxed day.

2410
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 5: I would. I understand, like why you feel that there

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01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 5: shouldn't be media and open locker room, but that's like

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01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 5: my favorite part of the day because I I just

2413
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 5: like as Mike, I just bounce around, right like I

2414
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,799
Speaker 5: just go to play. You know, different players that are.

2415
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 3: He's saying I shouldn't have access to all those players.

2416
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 3: They should be they should have come to another room, right.

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01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 5: But if they so, then what I would I would

2418
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,679
Speaker 5: request them and they because like no, no, no.

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01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 3: They they have to go to this other area.

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01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 1: Wanted to get home, they got to go through this

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01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 1: room and they have to stay there.

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01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 5: So it so for you, it's just the physical being

2423
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 5: and the I understand.

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01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, just having a where they can change. Like when

2425
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: you you know, when you have a party at your house,

2426
01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 1: usually the bedrooms off lands. It's in a while, their

2427
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,840
Speaker 1: way in there, you walk in on them.

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01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 5: Where old are you going?

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01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 1: In college? It happens at all ages, Paul, believe me?

2430
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Oh yeah, are you kidding me? I

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01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 1: would be.

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01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 3: I would be quite offended if I opened the door

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01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 3: to my bedroom, you know, having company, and they.

2434
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: Would it's a couple in my bedroom. I would not

2435
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 1: be happy with it. But anyway, you know, you get

2436
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: my points. It's the bedroom, like that's what we don't go.

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01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 8: That was like, I mean even I won't say names,

2438
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 8: but there was a scrum around a certain player and

2439
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 8: then another player came out of the shower. Offensive lineman

2440
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 8: wrapped in a towel that's probably the size of most

2441
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 8: of our handtown. He couldn't get because the scrum is

2442
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 8: going on his locker, right next to his locker, so

2443
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 8: he couldn't get there. So he's just standing there, hold hold,

2444
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 8: like pinching the towel off that's barely covering, like you know,

2445
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 8: it's his whole hip is shown out.

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01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 1: But it's that kind of stuff where you're like, you know,

2447
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 1: the guys are here to change and the gill and

2448
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 1: they're going to meetings. It's an interstitial place, you know.

2449
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: It's not like they're just sitting in there, you know.

2450
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 5: I just it's I totally could not agree more. And

2451
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:04,759
Speaker 5: I think that the dynamic of it for meat is awkward,

2452
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 5: Like it's it's awkward for you to be in there

2453
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 5: as much as it is probably for them.

2454
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 8: And imagine being a female like I, you know, I'm like,

2455
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 8: I'm awkward enough, is it.

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01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons I don't go in a

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01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 3: lot anymore, Like I don't have to be there, like

2458
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 3: you guys are writing all the time, so you guys

2459
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 3: still have to do it, but I don't. I've never

2460
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 3: felt comfortable in there. I always agree with Fred on

2461
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,600
Speaker 3: that I think it's their space and they should have

2462
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,679
Speaker 3: an area where they don't have to worry about someone

2463
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,919
Speaker 3: seeing something that they shouldn't right, And I'm not even talking.

2464
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 1: About them not right stuff in their locker whatever, you know, well.

2465
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 5: Right, And that's that's another thing, like not to call

2466
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 5: anybody out, but like if you're doing a one on

2467
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 5: one on camera with somebody, like have them close their locker, like,

2468
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 5: don't like don't then I'm.

2469
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 3: Not supposed to film into a locker, but it's hard

2470
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 3: if there's if you're filming them and they're standing with

2471
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 3: their back to the locker, you're going to pick stuff.

2472
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 5: Up as much as I possibly, like if we're going

2473
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 5: to do a scrumb with something like I if nobody

2474
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,799
Speaker 5: else like says hey, close, you're like I sometimes do because,

2475
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 5: like you, it's your personal stuff in there. And I'm

2476
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 5: not saying there's anything like like terrible in there, but

2477
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 5: there's just personal stuff in there. And like then sometimes things,

2478
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 5: you know, pictures or things like that get out that

2479
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 5: this guy has this picture in his locker like Mac

2480
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 5: last year with the Buffalo playoff game picture and like

2481
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 5: you just you just don't need that guy has a.

2482
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 3: Picture of his girlfriend on the other side of the one.

2483
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:26,839
Speaker 8: With Yeahmara's good about that. She's she's like the locker police.

2484
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 8: If that there aren't lockers closed, she's going in and

2485
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 8: close them. She's good out Alan and Texas says, well,

2486
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 8: she's just like closure. She makes sure she gets in

2487
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 8: there and tells them to do it and.

2488
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Locker room Mom. Alan says, thanks for the segment with

2489
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: mister Tippett. I was in my teens when he played

2490
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Like many other fans of New England,

2491
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 1: he was always one of my favorites. I remember hearing

2492
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 1: for the first time back then that he was a

2493
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 1: black belt. He still is, like fifth degree. I remember

2494
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 1: thinking that it was not surprising to me because he

2495
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: was so tough. That was really a pleasure to listen.

2496
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 1: As far as the current state of the team, I

2497
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 1: have hoped that we will improve as the year goes on.

2498
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: One positive that I have is that I think Mac

2499
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 1: showed some maturity over last year.

2500
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that that was an encouraging sign.

2501
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 3: I thought his demeanor on the field was much better.

2502
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 5: Yeah. I thought his poise was much better in the

2503
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 5: pocket too. I mean he took some hits. He took

2504
01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 5: some hits and he stood in there.

2505
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 1: By the way, we gave away three of the posters

2506
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: and uh, there were trivia questions. The first question was

2507
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 1: who was the holder for Super Bowl thirty six? Winner

2508
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: was Travis in West Virginia. How many receiving yards did

2509
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 1: Dion Branch have in Super Bowl thirty nine? One hundred

2510
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,679
Speaker 1: and thirty three? That was Andrew and Louisiana. I would

2511
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 1: have said, yeah, and who did mac Jones throw his

2512
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: first touchdown pass to Nelson? That's correct, Mike, and say

2513
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 1: what's that Andrew in La not Louisiana.

2514
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:56,799
Speaker 5: I would.

2515
01:52:58,720 --> 01:52:59,560
Speaker 1: No, I get it.

2516
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 3: I would have gotten that one.

2517
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike and Salem, New Hampshire, Miami.

2518
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 5: Got that last one, Miami Week one.

2519
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 1: Congratulations. If you didn't get a poster, you can buy

2520
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 1: this week's poster on Patriots dot com. All supplies last Yeah,

2521
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 1: signed in number by the artist, comes with a certificate

2522
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 1: of authenticity. Collect them all. Look great in your Patriots

2523
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 1: man or woman cave.

2524
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 8: Wow, the show's gone by fast. That tip thing was fun.

2525
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 8: That's the most I've talked to him in my four

2526
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 8: years here. But he's a he's a legend of my book.

2527
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 8: I mean, growing up that guy was was the Patriots me.

2528
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine him had they won a couple of

2529
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 1: Super Bowls.

2530
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 8: Oh, I mean, in my book, he's already like with

2531
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 8: Lawrence Taylor, as great as he but like he like

2532
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 8: he would.

2533
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 1: Be rationally he'd be recognized that way like the guys

2534
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:52,960
Speaker 1: and the Steelers and and the giants in the Dallas

2535
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, well, he named all those teams. Those are

2536
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 1: the team Country. It's because everybody knew those.

2537
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,640
Speaker 8: Guys, you know, yeah, but he was our It was like,

2538
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,600
Speaker 8: you know, we have our own at least we have tip, Yeah,

2539
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 8: Tipping John Hannah.

2540
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, get start about fifty six too.

2541
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 8: And you know it's always interesting some people like you always.

2542
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 3: I hadn't heard that one, and I make them tell

2543
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 3: me those stupid stories all the time. But he never

2544
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 3: told me that one.

2545
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:18,480
Speaker 1: Nothing to Paul knowing the score of his game. Brady's

2546
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 1: in Kansas City on the A stick and houtline, what's up, Brady, Brady, Brady,

2547
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: forget you. Brady's going to drop your call, Brady.

2548
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 8: They so they're saying for the Brady thing on six

2549
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 8: twelve that they're like, they want me to perform that

2550
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 8: at center field.

2551
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:40,320
Speaker 3: I would, and like sing.

2552
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: It, I would. They asked you that plined.

2553
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 5: That's a great idea.

2554
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be like a two or three

2555
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 1: hour show talent show. So we're gonna need to kill

2556
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: right right, you know, so I'll come out.

2557
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,040
Speaker 8: Maybe we can get a maybe get some actual members

2558
01:54:52,040 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 8: of Poison backing me up.

2559
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 3: You know, well, that would be different.

2560
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 5: That would be Why don't we just have yeah, why

2561
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 5: don't you have Poison perform years?

2562
01:54:58,680 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 1: Right?

2563
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 3: That and I'll that would be a different That would

2564
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 3: be great.

2565
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the names of the guys

2566
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 1: from Poison. I don't know, but yeah, we'll talk about it.

2567
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure I'll come together. Well, you get

2568
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Matt to do a little wrap in the back of it,

2569
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, all right, Well we'll get into the end

2570
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 1: of that one. Yeah, but I just want to remind

2571
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: right what hey, hey, hey Patriots, Paul, do you want

2572
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 1: to host the perfect game day? Why not bring the

2573
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 1: tailgate home with a stylish dining set. I would discount

2574
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 1: furniture with expandable options dining and counter heights and tons

2575
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: of styles to choose from. You'll score big when you

2576
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: shop at Bob's, the official furniture store of the New

2577
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 1: England Patriots.

2578
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 3: That would be awesome.

2579
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: So any final thoughts before we get to Thursday.

2580
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 8: I'm excited for picks. I'm curious how I did I

2581
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 8: think he did? Okay, don't spoil it.

2582
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 3: One person should be really excited.

2583
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 8: Really, that's not me. Then it might be the guy

2584
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 8: with the feel for the legal over there.

2585
01:55:55,960 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the feel's back. I'm feeling something. Yeah, what's

2586
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:01,480
Speaker 1: up coming up next?

2587
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 3: John Rook in the playbook?

2588
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I Rook at the playbook, the playbook, all right.

2589
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know if Catch twenty two was Wednesday or

2590
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's tomorrow, tomorrow, all right, So John

2591
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 1: Rook in the playbook coming up. As for us, we'll

2592
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow.

2593
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:21,040
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