1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Hey, Bethany, what's going on? We can hear you, you 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: can we can here, but we can hear you. You 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: can't hear us? Correct, I cannot hear you. Um let 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: me find out, but I hear what do I want 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: to know? What you're eating? I want to me I'm 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: meeting my list of healthy cookie Sorry. Hi, this is 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: just be with Bethany Frankel, and I am so excited 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: to share the first episode on my new podcast with you. 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to start out by talking about 10 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: why I'm doing a podcast. There are so many podcasts 11 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: out there. I'm sure it's hard to even keep up. 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: And I had a brief stint on the radio, and 13 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I will get into why that didn't work, because it's 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: a very I don't know if you'll think it's a 15 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: funny story, but it involves me throwing a drink on 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: someone during a Cold Play concert who was blocking the audience. 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: And she may or may not have been married to 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: Gary Cone, who was working for Donald Trump, who and 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: he her husband may or may not have been the 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: person doing the first round of funding for Serious Radio 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: where the show was. She may or may not have 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: been sitting in a group of wo with sequin tops 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: on in large diamond earrings blocking the audience and may 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: or may not have thrown orange juice on her. And 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: then my podcast, I mean sorry, Then my radio show, 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: which was in negotiations to be on pretty much every day, 27 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: sort of dissolved. So anyway, I digress. We can get 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: into that story on another day and many others. But 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: the reason I'm doing a podcast is because even when 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm on reality TV, there is an editing process. It 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it's not real what you've seen. It 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: just means that there's a narrative that is not necessarily 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to put right. It maybe about my 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: relationship to other people, or my work or my dating 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: or something that someone else is controlling. And when I 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: write books, they usually have just one topic that we're 37 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: talking about, and it's, you know, easily a year before 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: it gets published, and it's just it's it's still it's 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: it's the written word, it's not verbal. And so a podcast, 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: for me, I've just felt like I need a place 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: to vent, to rant, to discuss, to educate, to learn, 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: to be sort of just to have fun, to just 43 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: kind of get into it, honestly, I don't think people 44 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: are gonna like everything I have to say, nor agree 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: with me, but I'm excited to have this medium to 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: talk about. What I want to talk about are just 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: things that I think in my head that I know 48 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: would be wrong to say, But like I'm thinking in 49 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: my head, so someone else has to be thinking. One 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: of you is thinking the things that I'm thinking about 51 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: every day. And the truth is, because of social media, 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: everything's out there and this is a scarier time for 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: a person like me who's so opinionated and polarizing to 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: do this. So let's go. You know what I mean, 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do anything interesting by cowering and 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: being nervous to to say how I really feel. So 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: this is what that's going to be. It's going to 58 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: be not about just what I feel. But I want 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: to have people on here that want to be in 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: a real conversation that I'm not just gonna ask them 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: how do you balance your work in home life? Like 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm not asking things that you've heard already that are 63 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: just regurgitated nonsense. It's not just for people to come 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: on here and promote a book. I want to hear 65 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: what they think about different things. I want to hear 66 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: what moguls and people who are self made people have 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: started from the bottom now they're here, what they think, 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: what they do, what they eat, how they live, and 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: how their minds work. I want to get inside people's 70 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: minds and have different kinds of conversations, positive and negative. 71 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. I literally, I'm going to go 72 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: through this with you, so we'll figure it out together. 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: But I'm excited and I'm just into it, so let's 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: get into it. So today we're going to talk with 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban, who I really do respect and admire and adore. 76 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: He's just fun. He's half a dick. He's just smart, brilliant, opinionated. 77 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: He's the owner of the Dallas Mavericks. He's a Shark 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: Tank host. He's the Shark Tank host. So you could 79 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: tell them all pissed them all off. I don't care. 80 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: He is the main guy to me. Mark and I 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: are going to talk about how people become a success, 82 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: whether it's through hard work and dedication or devouring and 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: analyzing all the information you can. And let me tell you, 84 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: Mark is an expert a devouring information. We'll talk about 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: how we raise our kids, the reality of being a 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: public figure on Twitter, and Mark is going to share 87 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: a story about President Trump that I don't think he 88 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: was even expecting to talk about. So here it is, guys, 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: my conversation with Mark Cuban. Overall, I have really really 90 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: invested in this podcast in a way that I don't 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: with other things. I'm a wing it kind of person. 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: But with this podcast, because I'm talking to serious people 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: who their time is so valuable, I take time to 94 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: just prepare and think about who they are and what 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: makes them tick. And I'm just honored to say that 96 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: Mark Cuban, who I'm friends with, is a guest on 97 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: today's podcast. So welcome Mark Cuban. Thanks for having me on, Bethany, 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be here. Thank you. I really mean it. 99 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: I know your time is so valuable. You wake up, 100 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: what five o'clock in the morning. No, no, but my 101 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: time is your time, Bethany. You already know that, You've 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: always known that, So whatever you need, I can say 103 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: I know a lot of smart people, and I the 104 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: way that your mind works is so fascinating, and that's 105 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: one of the things that throughout this conversation I want 106 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: to get into because you definitely tick in a different way. 107 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: You're you have a different clock. I know about a 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: tenth of what you know about in business, and that's 109 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: not that's not me just like fishing, That's truthfully what 110 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: I really think. Because you have so much data and 111 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: so much information, and you do so much research, you 112 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: are always woke about every aspect of politics, business, sports, 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: like you're just you devour information. I know that about 114 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I'd love to read. I mean that that's the absolute truth. 115 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean. Part of what also has worked for me 116 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: is I learned early on. You know, I got fired 117 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: from a company selling software and I started my own company, 118 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: and what I learned very quickly was that you know, 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: all this information is available to everybody, but very few 120 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: people actually put into time to learn it or to 121 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: get to understand it. And that just became a habit 122 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: for me. You know, whether it's reading about businesses, companies, 123 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: stark market, stock market, technology, politics, whatever it may be. 124 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: I just tried, you know, two three four hours a day. 125 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm reading and learning and trying to stay ahead and 126 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: get ahead and keep up. That's fascinating. So for you, 127 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: you're saying devouring information, which I don't do as much 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: as you do. I do my boyfriend does it as 129 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: much as you do. And I love to be around 130 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: people like you because you're the type person that would 131 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: like I could call and you would just send me 132 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: this information or tell me something, or just like crystallize 133 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: something into something so simple. We were on Shark Tank 134 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: and we were looking at this pillow company that I 135 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: was obsessed with because it was playing sleeping music through 136 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: the pillow. And you were like, you you go, so 137 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: you like the fucking pillow? Buy a pillow for a 138 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: hundred fifty dollars, you have to buy the company. And 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: it was just so like just something that like a 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: dad figure who knows everything and he's read everything you 141 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: would say. You were like, buy the funker, I'll buy 142 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: you the pillow. So what I want to say, though, 143 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: is the same way that you say reading all that information. 144 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: I always say, it's not about bills and whistles. It's 145 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: not about filter, it's not about Instagram, it's not about bullshit. 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: It's about hard work. You be Michael phelps you get 147 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: to that wall. You don't look to the left or 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: the right, You swim, you work, You don't think about 149 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: what everyone else is doing. You do what you're doing, 150 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: and you have conviction, and you know, it's a great 151 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: bethany because a lot of people always, I'm sure they 152 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: do the same thing with you, well what business should 153 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: I start? And I'm like, well, if you don't know, 154 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, no one's gonna tell you. You have to 155 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: do the work you know, or will you mentor me 156 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: and help me. You've got to do the work. You've 157 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: got to learn because one of the greatest assets you 158 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: can have in anything that you do is being excited 159 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: about learning, because the only constant in this life has changed. 160 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean, look at what we're going through right now 161 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: and that change. You know. Hopefully we get past the virus, 162 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: and I think we will, but there's there's gonna be 163 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: new things that come down, and you've really got you 164 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: can't just be ignorant to it all, you know, if 165 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: you want to be successful, you have to put in 166 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: the time to learn. Well, yes, I think so many 167 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: people are thinking of this as a horrible time, which 168 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: it is because obviously, you know, unemployment has never been 169 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: at these numbers and people are just it's upside down. 170 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: If you help, if you happen to have an online 171 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: education program that you were working on, you're you're you're 172 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: crushing the game, and if you happen to own commercial 173 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: real estate, you're fucked. But what that does is that 174 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: makes this a whole different playing field. Like some people 175 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: can just literally start from scratch, because a lot of 176 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: people are just bottomed out and rock bottom. So let's 177 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: get scratched, you know, because you know, traditionally, typically when 178 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: you started, come and you're competing with a bunch of 179 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: big companies that have a huge advantage financially experienced wise, 180 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: customer base wise. But now, because of COVID and because 181 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: the social unrest, because everything that's happened together with that 182 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: and all the tragedy comes with it, you know, the 183 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: big companies don't. They're trying to figure out just how 184 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: to stay in business. They're trying to figure out, you know, 185 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: what am I going to do next? They're trying to 186 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: figure out how to deal with the social change that's occurring. 187 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: But if you're starting from scratch, you don't have those 188 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: legacy problems that have to address. It's fascinating what you're saying, 189 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: because it's true, I haven't thought I know that intellectually, 190 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: but I haven't really thought about the big business. Those 191 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: are big cruise ships you're trying to move ocean liners 192 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: and like they're just trying to stay on the water. 193 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: And the other small companies are nimble. Their sports cars 194 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: they can navigate. So that's interesting. I like, you know, 195 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: they don't have capital, they don't have anything but their 196 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: pissing vinegar and hard work, and that starts small and 197 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: just takes off. I tell people, you know, we're when 198 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: we look back in twenty years, they're gonna be hundred 199 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: world changing companies that were created right now because people 200 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: had a vision for the future and what it should 201 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: be like. You know, we we've seen that happened so 202 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: many times. You know, look at social media. Facebook didn't 203 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: exist and then it did. Snapchat had an angle, right 204 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: all all of the big apps you know are relatively recent, 205 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: but you know, one day they didn't exist. You know, 206 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: mobile computing came along that, you know, mobile networking came along. 207 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: They took advantage of apps, and boom they became huge companies. 208 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: And we're gonna look back and say, Okay, you know 209 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: there's this business reset in and there were a bunch 210 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: of kids that came out and said I have a 211 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: better idea. Let's go in that direction and it worked. 212 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Okay, So Mark, it's you have five 213 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you have nothing, and you're not worried about 214 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: you don't have family, You're just you out as an entrepreneur. 215 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: What are you doing with? What are you doing tomorrow? 216 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: What are you What are you doing? So I wouldn't 217 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: even need the five thousand dollars. I'd get a job, right. 218 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't care what the job is. I don't care 219 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: if it's a bartending job. I don't care if it's 220 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: sweeping floors. I don't care if it's working at McDonald's. 221 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: But I get it. I get a job, and then 222 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: from there I go to work trying to start a company. 223 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's probably gonna be an online company. It's 224 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: probably gonna be involving Amazon Alexa and writing voice scripts 225 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: and just geeking out and helping people with ambient voice 226 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: because with all the COVID and everything, I think a 227 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: lot of people are going to gear towards touch free environments. 228 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: And that's when Amazon, Alexa, Google Home, Microsoft Coartana do so, 229 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: get any job and then the rest of the day 230 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: bust My ask to become an expert in and sell 231 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: a company built around mbent voice. All right, perfect, So 232 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: that you're basically saying old school, get off your ass, 233 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: go to go work or make some money, figure it out, yeah, okay, 234 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: pay Yeah. And I think there's this we we haven't 235 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: entitled vibe with people now and entitled sort of mentality 236 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: now because that's one thing about social media and all 237 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: these influencers that I don't love for our kids, because 238 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: they are watching people who are fifteen years old making 239 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: money just for like, you know, showing their asses and pictures. 240 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: And I think there's not a lot of showing like 241 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: just hard work in young people anymore. There's not a 242 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: lot of showing that. You know. It's all different though, right. 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: Let me look if if we were if if I 244 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: was twenty two and broke, you know, maybe I would 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: go to social media around you see if it works, 246 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't, I wouldn't stop there. So I'm 247 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: not saying don't do it that. My ten year old 248 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: son is a perfect example. He streams, right, he streams 249 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: his games. He gets four users, four users, but he 250 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: just keeps ongoing back for more. Now, what what I 251 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: really get a jazzed about when he does it isn't 252 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: how many users he gets because he's ten, but all 253 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: the work he's got to do to figure out all 254 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: these platforms streamable right, you know, open broadcasting system. So 255 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: he's not like saying to me, Dad, would you do 256 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: this work for me? He's figuring it all out by 257 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: himself and with his friends. And to me, that's impressive. 258 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: Love that. Now, even if you know he doesn't make 259 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: any money from this, he's just the fact that he's 260 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: learning how to solve his own technical problems is huge. 261 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: I love that. And it's funny that you know, you 262 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: have a ten year old I have a ten year 263 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: old daughter, and they don't want us to help them. 264 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: They want to do it on their own because they 265 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: know that we have influence and power to get things done. 266 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: It's nice to see that. How do you raise rich kids? Like? 267 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: How do you do it? I mean, I have my 268 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: own philosophy, So how do you do it? Like you're 269 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: not gonna be like you want to go on vacations 270 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: and you have a plane, and so you're not gonna 271 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: just be like you guys walk, I'm flying, you know, 272 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: because because I worked so hard and you know, my 273 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: my personal thing is if you're a nice person and 274 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: you're a good person and you're you know, the world 275 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: is your oyster. If you're you just have to be 276 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: a good nice person. Otherwise I agree. I agree, because 277 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: we try to, you know, you try to an example 278 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: your kids watch how you treat people. And so that's 279 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: part one, part two. Yeah, I mean, look, we've got 280 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: a plane, we've got houses all over the place, so 281 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: they know they're spoiled at that level. But my wife 282 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: and I try to keep it as normal as possible 283 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the way, you know, trying to talk 284 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: to them like adults, trying to you know, convey to 285 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: them that you know, this is a dangerous time. Sixteen 286 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: year old daughter, that is hard. You know, she the 287 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: minute she took fifteen, my wife and I got really 288 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: stupid and just trying to convey, you know, the importance 289 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: of some of these things and getting it to resonate. 290 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: And she's smart, she gets great grades and everything, but 291 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: she's also very social and she wants to blaze her 292 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: own path and she'll try to figure out things on 293 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: her own, and so we we just try to encourage 294 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:52,239 Speaker 1: her to to keep on learning and be respectful of everybody. 295 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: But you know, it's definitely hard. I mean, the first 296 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: world problems for sure. But we're doing the best weekend. 297 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: But we put it in the oven and we hope 298 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: that the recipe turns out great. But I will say this, 299 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: I've been to your house. I've been to your You 300 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: had a milestone birthday party. It was a major party 301 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: and Stevie Wonder was performing and the Chain Smokers performed, 302 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: and it was an elaborate, amazing, gorgeous tent with all 303 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: these basketball players. And what I remember is you walking 304 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: around in a T shirt, like any T shirt that 305 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: I would wear, like that, I wouldn't. I don't even 306 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: wear that T shirt. It's like a random nothing weekend 307 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: T shirt, holding a bottle of like Boone's, like some 308 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: crappy Okay, You're holding a bottle of like crappy seven 309 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: eleven High School in Florida liquor that we probably was 310 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: four dollars, and like no one was watching. There wasn't 311 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: any like cameras or anything was You're you're really living 312 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: your life. And I watched you walking around just hugging 313 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: people like a big kid with that crappy liquor, with 314 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: your T shirt on, hugging your family, dancing like a 315 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: nice dork that just happened to be surrounded by all 316 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: like a handsome dor successful but you didn't wouldn't know 317 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: that in that moment, you didn't. It didn't even seem 318 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: like it was necessarily your party. You're just hanging out 319 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: like talking to everyone, and it made me so happy 320 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: because you definitely are real and down to earth and 321 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: when people see you, I'm sure they're very intimidated. I'm 322 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: sure some people think you're a dick because you're opinionated 323 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: and you're so polarizing. But I just said, I I 324 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: just that was my entire takeaway about the entire party. 325 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: You were just so down to earth and you just 326 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: there someone who happened to make a lot of money. 327 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: But you would have been living this exact way if 328 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: you were in a one bedroom apartment pretty much. Yeah. 329 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean I was happy when I was broke. Um, 330 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed my life. Um. And when you know what I 331 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: found is when you know you've been around a lot 332 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: of people that have made money too, and you know 333 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: if they were happy before they made money, they were 334 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: happier when they made money. If they were miserable before 335 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: they made money. They're just more miserable and miserable in 336 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: a different way after they made money. My friends from 337 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: high school from college were all there, you know, from 338 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: Shark Tank and the maths, and it was just so cool. Now, 339 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately I don't remember half the night. I do, that's 340 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: the downside of mad Duck and Tito's vodka. But yeah, 341 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: it was. It was an amazing night. I'm so glad 342 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: you were there, And yeah, that was That was me 343 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: and my element and my kids were there too. That 344 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: was the first time and the only time really they've 345 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: ever seen me drink or drunk. So I told him 346 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: in advance that this is not how data usually is, 347 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: but at least not anymore. Um So, it's not it's 348 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: not how you are. When I go to l A 349 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: and I've done Shark Tank at the hotel, people are socialized. 350 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: People from the show are socializing at the bar, you know, 351 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing, and you're in your cut off workout 352 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: shirt eating some sort of lean protein in the restaurant 353 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: where everybody else is, but you're by yourself, and you're like, 354 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: go straight to the gym and then go to bed. 355 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: And I think people like to hear that that people 356 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: who are successful are really no hard don't get me wrong, right, 357 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean, but over time, you know, you know, it's 358 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: just harder to go out. Now, the more visible and um, 359 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: the more recognizable you are, the harder it is. But 360 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: back before anybody knew who I was, you know, it 361 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: was a different beast. But things change. Same. Well, I'm 362 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: nine HOMEBODI temper cent lunatic, and when that temper cent comes, 363 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: no one knows it's coming, and it's like, get out 364 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: of the way. Yeah, exactly right, exactly exactly. So I 365 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier, but I want to come back to it. 366 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: Do you think you're polarizing? You know, it really depends 367 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: on the circumstances and context and so on social media, yes, 368 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: because I don't give a funk, right, I'll say what's 369 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: on my mind and what I think is right. But 370 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: that's what twitters for. I like to go on Twitter 371 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: and say things that I know will upset people because 372 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: I want to see the response. And particularly now, over 373 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: the last four years, things have become so partisan that 374 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: whatever side you're on, everybody else is going to hate you. 375 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Here's the thing that's crazy. One side of the world. 376 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: Every it's free and freedom of speech and everyone should 377 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: be allowed to be who they are. And you say 378 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: something about any issue, whether it's political or even just 379 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: what you feel about someone's hair, you know, or what 380 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: someone's choice for business or the name of their company, 381 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: and you get true. You always have to remind yourself 382 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: that that Twitter is not real world. You know, Instagram comments, 383 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: YouTube comments are not real world. That's where people get 384 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: all kinds of courage. Exactly. The funniest part is on Twitter, 385 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: in particular, when you look at the people that talk 386 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: ship to you. They never have their picture or real 387 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: name ever, are just random pictures or avatars or whatever. 388 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: Because then you know, and that just tells you they're 389 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: not there really to voice an opinion. They're just there 390 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: to talk ship. Yes, but at times I do enjoy 391 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: the medium because it's like a forum for people to 392 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: express their opinion. I mean, people talking to each other 393 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: and getting into arguments with each other. Sometimes I like 394 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: to sit back and just watch it because you're getting 395 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: bird's eye view into different perspectives. Exactly. There's a sportswriter 396 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: in Dallas, Randy Galloway, and you always used to talk 397 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: about checking your whole card, right. Things you think you 398 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: know and things you think you believe in, but unless 399 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: you have somebody else question them, where you open them 400 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: up to questioning, you don't really know. And so you 401 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: always want to have people question you and and check 402 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: your whole card. And that's what I like to do 403 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: all the time. I agree, And sometimes Instagram, Twitter, etcetera. 404 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: They can be the place to do it when everyone's 405 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: not yelling at each other and bullying. I can't handle 406 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: the negativity and the bullying, and I can't deal with 407 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: the people that are afraid. I mean, there's so many 408 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: celebrities right now who are just terrified to say anything. Yeah, 409 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: but there's sometimes you know, we do get afraid every 410 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: now and then to do certain things right because for 411 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: most people, a tweets is just a tweet. For us, 412 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: it's not right. When you have a big enough following, 413 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: you know, you know that they're a it's gonna be 414 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: picked up as a headline. And when the headline is 415 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: getting picked up, half the half the articles are gonna 416 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: be taken out of context. Be you know, there's there's trolling, 417 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: which is fine, like you said, people battling each other whatever. 418 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: And then there's organized trolling, you know, where all of 419 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're gonna get a million your mentions are 420 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: going to have a million, you know, replies, and you 421 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: can't even use Twitter or you know, your inbox, your 422 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: email inbox or whatever, your phone number is going to 423 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: find its way out. So there's different things, and so 424 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: there's different ways. But generally, like if it's just normal topics, 425 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: I'm the same as you fucket right, I'll say whatever 426 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: is on my mind. And I kind of liked the 427 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: battle and I want to engage, you know, and let's 428 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: just go. Yeah, I get it. I mean I'm the 429 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: same way. And not too long ago, you actually had 430 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: a short Twitter feud with Ted Cruz. Do you know 431 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: him personally? Have you met him personally? You've never met him, 432 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: So the only the only connection I had to him 433 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: was during the twenty six team primaries. I came out 434 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: and said something positive about Trump and I said I 435 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: was an ABC guy. Anybody but Cruise and his office 436 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: sent me an email saying he'd like to get together 437 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: and I'm like, fine, I'll get together with them. I 438 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: don't care, you know, and then they sent that I 439 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: suggested time, and it was like what about the Sunday night. 440 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, that's Valentine's Day. And he's like, well, 441 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: why don't you bring your wife over and you can 442 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: have dinner with Ted. I'm like, I'm not going to 443 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: bring my wife over to have dinner with Jed Cruise 444 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day? You know, So that was my only 445 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: exposure experience with him. If you saw him in person, 446 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: would you laugh it off? Would you both shrug it off? 447 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: I won't care, Like, yeah, it's not personal right as Twitter, 448 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: it's not personal. It's Twitter. That's a good tagline, that's funny. 449 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: And then did you know Trump in another life? Drump 450 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: for almost twenty years? Because I would see him wanting 451 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: your approval, like someone like you is his kind of person. 452 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: You're in sports, you're wealthy, yeah, no question, you're a gangster. 453 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: So what would happen if you saw him? Like, what 454 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: happened if you saw him? Well? I was in the 455 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: White House last year, right, and I didn't know how 456 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: he would respond to me. I was there talking about 457 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: healthcare project I was working on with Jared Kushner and 458 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: and Jared was like, well, the boss wants to see 459 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: you in the oval. Office. I'm like, okay, kind of surprised, 460 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: and I walked in, he goes, hey, Mark, And that's 461 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: that's who Donald is. You know, Donald is what what 462 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: can you what can you do for me? Now? And 463 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: that's my whole relationship over twenty years. It's been, you know, 464 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: we're having a feud, but then he thinks I can 465 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: help him. And if you say something nice, you're his 466 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: best friend and do you mind working with them? And 467 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: that's just who he is. And look, personally, I don't 468 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: have a problem with the guy now. Professionally as the president, 469 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: I think he's an idiot. You know, I've never thought 470 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: he was smart in talking to him, but I know 471 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: a lot of smart people that I can be friends with. 472 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: But just at one quick antidote, while I was in 473 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: there for that meeting, and it was twenty minutes, we 474 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: talked about a bunch of things, and you know how 475 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: he is, he just jumps from topic to topic, you know, 476 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: just randomly, and went through all that. And as I 477 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: get up to leave, I was wearing one of the 478 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: tom forces that I wear in Shark Tank and he 479 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: goes Mark, and I turned around and I go, yeah, 480 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: because you look good in that suit you've been working out. Thanks, 481 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: that's hysterical. All of a sudden, Trump's wearing tom Ford suits. 482 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: That's hysterical. What percentage do you think he's lucky? And 483 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: what percentage do you think he's smart? I think it's 484 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: zero percent. Well I shouldn't say zero percent smart. Um, 485 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's got a good skill set on 486 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: picking properties. I'll give him that. You know, the Trump 487 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: the bond wock Teller abuilding turning into Trump Tower, Um, 488 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: the Grand Hyatt Um. Now you know most of those 489 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: buildings were while his dad was still alive. I don't 490 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: know if you had a chance to read the Mary 491 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: Trump book. I just finished it. It's incredible. Okay, okay, 492 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: he doesn't even rip him, and she didn't doesn't even 493 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: rip him nearly as much as you might expect. Just 494 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: give some some feet, some behind side, and some some backstory. 495 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: And you know, while his dad, if you look at 496 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: all his biggest successes, you know, in terms of building, 497 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: they were while his dad was alive, and his dad 498 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: was rate at building great. And you know Donald was 499 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: smart enough to use that as a resource and let 500 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: his dad handle the things he didn't know. But everything 501 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: since then you can't really point to a lot of 502 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: successes other than maybe, you know, the post office hotel 503 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: and maybe the print and maybe getting into the to 504 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: the White House. I don't think he planned on that. 505 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: I don't think that was one of the successes. I 506 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: think that was an accident. I don't think everything that, 507 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: you know, even when I talked to him, like I 508 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: came out when he first started to run, I said 509 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was one of the best things ever to 510 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: happen to politics, because he speaks his mind. He basically, 511 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: I basically said, he doesn't give a funk, right, he's 512 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: not a politician. And I had no inkling that he 513 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: might win. And so we would talk all the time 514 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: after I said that, because I was, you know, supporting him, 515 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, because again I didn't think he would win. 516 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: And then as I started talking to him more about things, 517 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: I asked some questions about real estate, and he didn't 518 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: really understand the financial side of real estate, you know, 519 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: talking about return on investment, internal to return, stuff like that. 520 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: Didn't you know, couldn't engage on that at all, you know, 521 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: And it was just clear that he wasn't somebody who 522 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: learned about anything. And that's where we kind of had 523 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: our falling out, but you know, he said to me 524 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: one time, you know, I don't know if I'm gonna win, 525 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: but you you should run for presidents someday. And so 526 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: he actually was the first person ever tell me to 527 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: run for president. And that's fun. But he just I 528 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: didn't get the sense that he thought he would win. 529 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: And I've heard from other people are close to him 530 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: that he didn't think he would win either, So that's crazy. 531 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna win because he was a 532 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: very disruptive person running this free marketing campaign that you 533 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: couldn't even put a monetary value on, where people couldn't 534 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: stop a watch, and that says a lot about society 535 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: now where people are into fame, and that's scary because 536 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: it's becoming a marketing campaign and you know about branding 537 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: better than anyone. Well, you know, it's interesting. It was 538 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: interesting with Donald um. Well, let me put a different way. 539 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: One of my friends in Texas explained it to me 540 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: best when I said, look, I know this guy. He's 541 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: not smart. You know, I don't He only cares about himself. 542 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, he's going to put himself ahead of the country, 543 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: which effectively is what he's done. Um, I said, why 544 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: are you voting for him? And he goes to me, Mark, 545 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. This guy's mid fifties. You know, 546 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: textans relatively successful. Because Mark, let me tell you something. 547 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: I've been voting for politicians my entire life. And you 548 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: know where they've got got me and know what they've 549 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: done for me? Nothing? You know the definition of insanity. 550 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm not voting for a politician. And that I think 551 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: is what Donald walked through and walked into. And I 552 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: think I don't think he created a movement. I think 553 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: he found a movement and wrote it. And I guess 554 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: he deserves credit for that. But um, you know it 555 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: was timing to timing and business you know better than 556 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: anything in relationships. At that moment in time, it was 557 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: the anything but campaign, anything but what we've been doing. 558 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: Let's do something different and let's shake up the snow boat. 559 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: And but I will say, it's interesting because you're in branding. 560 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't think any of his shark tannic ideas have 561 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: actually made it. Like if he had pitched you the 562 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: suits of I don't know that's what that was. Desperation. 563 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: You don't put your name on all that garbage and 564 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: knowing you have no control over it unless you're desperate. 565 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: Look at Trump University, look at Trump Soho, look at 566 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: Trump Panama. These are all things that ended up ripping 567 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: people off Trump Foundation. When you're desperate and you have 568 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, you're just trying to find anything. You see 569 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: what happens to celebrities as they start to decline, right, 570 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: and they stopped making money. You know, anybody who offers 571 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: any amount of money to put their name on something, 572 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: they say yes. And that's what we're Donald Trump exactly. 573 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: That's a great point because I know how you are 574 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: with your businesses and you're literally gone on the phone 575 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: eating Alyssa's cookies, which is a shark tank business. But 576 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: I have to be integral, integraly from my core involved. 577 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: And by the way, Donald Trump, his his way is 578 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: a lot like some of the housewives, and that you 579 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: could tell him to go fund himself and then he 580 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: forgets about it the next day. That's an interesting quality 581 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: that some of the I'm not like that, you tell 582 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: me to go funk myself, We're done forever, so forever. 583 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: I'm Sicilian in that way, I will be or like 584 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, religious to you that will rip their vests 585 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: and like we're done. But one of the housewive said 586 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: to me, I'm researching white white space. I don't even 587 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: know what it's like, where Like people will say I've 588 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: heard people at HSN say to me, there's white space, 589 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: meaning like it's there's a void there. We're not doing 590 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: anything in that category. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But it's so 591 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: people you don't go hunt for that. You have something 592 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: inside of you that drives you to do something good 593 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: as something you can't just pick a space and say, oh, look, 594 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: there's nothing there, I'll go fill it. Right, It's got 595 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: to be something that is part of you that you 596 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: love and that you know you know and you make 597 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: it work. You've got to know your ship, right because 598 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: just it's not like there's no competitors that can't just 599 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: go into that space as well. Well, that's why Shark 600 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Tank is amazing because it shows people how hard it 601 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: really is. I Mean, the truth of the matter is 602 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: it's about the execution of an idea. So that's that's 603 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: the thing that people don't think I have this great idea. 604 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, who cares, what are you doing about it? 605 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: And what do you have to back it up. So 606 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that you and Shark Tank 607 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: really are relentless about and people need to know. I'm 608 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: sure you hear it all the time. I have this idea, 609 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: like you just said, and when I just hear that, 610 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: I just immediately turn off right. Or if I get 611 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: an email to starts, I have this idea, I just 612 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: hit the lead because ideas are easy. Everybody has got 613 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: business ideas. Everybody. There's no human in this country that 614 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: hasn't had a business idea that they've gotten excited about. 615 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: But ninety nine of those humans didn't do shit about it. 616 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: And that's the difference. You know, it's get off your 617 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: ass and what's your driving plan to get to the 618 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: finish line? And you may get derailed, but you need 619 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: to have a good plan because the second someone else 620 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: smells your idea, they're coming in with it. And everybody's 621 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: had the same idea whatever. I always say those Winklevoss 622 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: twins that whether they created Facebook or not, it was 623 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: a copy. Mark Zuckerberg executed them. These guys like let's star. 624 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: You can't whine about what doesn't happen. Everybody copies everything 625 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: you do, and everybody copies everything I do, So don't whine. 626 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: Keep going, Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs that everything is a remix. Yes, yes, 627 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: as I say in my cocktail segments, yes plane. Okay, 628 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: So I could talk to you for five hours, but 629 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: I need to let you live your life without me. 630 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: And um, I do want to tell everybody that you 631 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: and I did do a rendition of m Paradise, Paradise 632 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: by the Dash for Light. We did do that with 633 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 1: karaoke and it's probably like an eleven minute song cotton 634 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Mouth like dying when you get We committed to that, 635 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: but we committed. And I like being a duet with you, 636 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: So maybe we'll be a duet on something in this 637 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: my time. Okay, So the last thing I'd like to 638 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: ask you about is whether you have any mottos, something 639 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: that you live by. I have a few that I 640 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: try to remind myself of, and I'm just asking all 641 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: my guests if they have a motto that might be 642 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: helpful to the listeners. How you do anything is how 643 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: you do everything. Sales cures at all, and the one 644 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: thing in life that you can control is effort. Those 645 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: are my three little models that I always try to 646 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: remind myself. Wait, what is sales cures everything any business. 647 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: There's no business that has ever existed about sales un 648 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: let's you know. And if you can get out there 649 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: and close and make customers happy and generate revenue, you're 650 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: going to succeed. If you don't have sales, you're not 651 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: going to succeed. Fabulous. So I love you. You are amazing. 652 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: You are funny, you're charming, you're smart, you're humble, You're 653 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: you can be a dick, which I like to You're 654 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: impossible but yet totally possible. I love being on Shark 655 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: Tank with you. I love that I miss you on there. 656 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm missing you know. It's a good sparring, it's a 657 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: good stack down. And I love people who don't back down, 658 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: but not just not back down, but can back up 659 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: what they're trying to accomplish. So good. So I cannot 660 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: thank you enough. I I really I just value you 661 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you, and You're going to be part 662 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: of making it successful for me. So I'm very grateful. 663 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: So thank you so much much pleasure. Thanks for having 664 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: me on, Bethany, and I hope you get to hang 665 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: out soon me too. Big kiss to you and your family. 666 00:32:53,360 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Take care, So that was interesting. I'm really enjoying this 667 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: so much because I know Mark Cuban. We've spent a 668 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: lot of time together, but I don't know a lot 669 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: of that about him. So I'm exploring with you, we're 670 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: doing this together because you know, you talk to people, 671 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: You talk about bullshit, the weather, the pandemic, a restaurant, 672 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: you have a drink, you laugh like, you don't really 673 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: get that deeply into it because sometimes it's tiring, and 674 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: when you're social, you're not really kind of getting into 675 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: how it all works and how someone's mind works. And 676 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: so I'm loving that I know a lot of these 677 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: people personally, which is why the show is very personal 678 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: to me and really important to me, but that we're 679 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: just getting such a unique perspective of from people, and 680 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: that you know, Mark Cuban is such a visionary and 681 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: such an interesting person, and we just got him so 682 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: open and honest and just free. So I love that 683 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: this is fun and interesting, but hopefully it's educational and 684 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: takeaway that is really you can really apply these things 685 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: to your daily life and thoughts and the way that 686 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: you navigate yourself in life and in business. So thank 687 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: you all for being here. And for listening. I love 688 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: it so deeply and continue to listen and subscribe and 689 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: leave comments on Instagram on Twitter. We're here to listen 690 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: and make sure to tune in next week Talk Soon. 691 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: Just Be is hosted and executive produced by me Bethany Frankel, 692 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: Brail Productions and Endeavor Content. Our managing producer is Samantha 693 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: Allison and our producer is Caroline Hamilton's Corey Proventure is 694 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: our consulting producer, with the ever faithful Sarah Katanac as 695 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: our assistant producer. Our Development Executive is naintre Roy. 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