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Speaker 2: Look at this now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's hump Day, it's the day before Turkey Day.

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Speaker 3: We got DJ wax Weasel, we got DJCTE in the house.

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Speaker 1: And this bitch.

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Speaker 3: Hi everyone, it's born in Combat. It's twenty third of

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Speaker 3: November twenty twenty two. My dad turned eighty two yesterday.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Shouts told dad Thomas turning eighty two? All right, happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas. I'm one half of your

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Speaker 3: hosting duo. I joined you from the Capital. It's not

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Speaker 3: us the news right here in Washington, d C. My

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Speaker 3: partner in crime. You know him from the grand streets

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Speaker 3: of Naugata, Connecticut, where you know if you if you

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Speaker 3: don't die from a meth overdose, you'll probably just yeh

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Speaker 3: from a different kind of overdose.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Brian Campbell, how are.

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Speaker 2: You uh like like those three women in Destiny's Child.

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Speaker 2: I'm a survivor, all right, I'm not gonna give up.

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Speaker 2: I come from the wrong side of the tracks. But

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Speaker 2: look at me now, right, Look, I.

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Speaker 3: Think you're more what TLC was talking about when they

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Speaker 3: mentioned scrubs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, scrubs, all right. I always once a scrub.

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Speaker 2: But look at me now, Hey, welcome to UH one.

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Speaker 2: It used to be one of my favorite days of

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Speaker 2: the year. They call it Valley New Year where I'm

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Speaker 2: from Luke day before Thanksgiving. You know, you get out

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Speaker 2: all the you know, recent graduates that are now of

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Speaker 2: if that if you were in the game, right, But

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Speaker 2: you know now, I'm just a you know, just a

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Speaker 3: Man, you know, emphasis on homely. All right, So we

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Speaker 3: have a fun show for you today.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, there's some John Jones News pflas In a

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Speaker 3: couple of days, we'll talk about that pay per view

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Speaker 2: No, that's a pay per view, brother, all right, that's

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Speaker 3: give us a nice review. As a reminder, Showtime dot

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Speaker 2: Oh, I keep keep talking about our label that pays us.

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Speaker 2: up the Christmas tree with the lights up. All that

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Speaker 2: we have already pre taped a fantastic mailbag episode brought

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Speaker 2: Check out our Anthony Smith Room Service Diaries episode that's

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Speaker 2: some people have said that's the best RSD we've.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have some some deals for you over there.

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Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is, Luke, if you check the

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Speaker 2: Continue to hey, hey, take the taste test. Go around

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Speaker 2: the tour of the Combat Sports offerings, the shows, the podcast,

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Speaker 2: If you end up coming back to MK, you're welcome.

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Speaker 3: As a reminder, of course, the email Morningcombat at gmail

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Speaker 3: Friday's Dead Wrong, which we'll get to not this Friday,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're sipping on. I had mine

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Speaker 3: Ag one athletic greens. The best way to get any

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Speaker 2: I take it every morning. Okay, it's one scoop of

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Speaker 2: If you're already investing in a cold brew habit, or

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Speaker 2: And I know what they're saying, Luke, why would I

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Speaker 1: It's very easy.

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Speaker 3: Is it as big in any marketing respect as what

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Speaker 2: they pay him. Deontay Wilderman, that's a story from a

434
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,680
Speaker 2: long time ago. But it's been eighteen months since John

435
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 2: hired Richard and then we started to hear more about

436
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 2: the negotiations or that the talking are going a little better.

437
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 2: We always see videos of John and the gym and

438
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 2: he's got a heavyweight but look, you said an everyweight

439
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 2: body for like two years. It seems he hasn't fought

440
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 2: in like three fricking years, specifically to the last year

441
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 2: to eighteen months. Answer this question the best you know,

442
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 2: how why the hell has John Jones not come back yet?

443
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 2: Because we know full well Wayangano hasn't, although he did

444
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 2: fight this calendar year. In that fight, I mentioned why

445
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 2: the hell has John Jones taken this long to come back?

446
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 2: Is it tied into the idea that him versus Francis

447
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 2: is still the super Bowl heavyweight fight that can make?

448
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 2: Is it? Is that part of it?

449
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

450
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 3: I mean there's probably a few factors. One is, there's

451
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 3: been tobny times he wanted to come back and.

452
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: Whatever the UFC.

453
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 3: Who knows where the UFC offered him at certain points, right,

454
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just hard to know. That's probably one factor.

455
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 3: Who did they offer him at what times? So that's

456
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 3: one second one, of course, is just sort of the

457
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 3: general concern about getting his body ready. I mean that's

458
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 3: probably delayed to some degree. The other one is going

459
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 3: to be once Francis got injured and then they weren't

460
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 3: sure about steep A, it just made things difficult to

461
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 3: get that ball rolling. So there's a lot of things

462
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 3: in many ways out of John's control, and fairness to

463
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 3: him that he can't control what Stepe wants to do

464
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 3: and when he wants to do it. He can't control

465
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 3: how healthy Francis and Ghana is and when he can

466
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 3: be back like these things are and who or who

467
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 3: and when the UFC offered him. I would also say,

468
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: and again this part's hard to know and I don't

469
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 3: want to overly speculate, but he obviously had some issue

470
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 3: privately with that whole thing in Las Vegas, and I

471
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: think he had a familial split as a consequence, Like, dude,

472
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 3: that can really mess a person up and change all

473
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 3: your priorities and you know, just create I think as

474
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 3: a basic way to say, it's some serious complications about

475
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: anything you're able to do, personal, professional, you name it, right,

476
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 3: So between I should say, among all of those factors

477
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: and also again, I go back to it. John Jones

478
00:20:55,119 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: has been teasing a heavyweight move for ten years a decade.

479
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: There you go. He was waiting for just the right time.

480
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 3: And I guess this is fine. But also, hollered is

481
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 3: John what is he thirty four.

482
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: To thirty five? Dude, he's gonna be thirty six.

483
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: It's time. It's time.

484
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,239
Speaker 2: Like so, February will be three years out of the

485
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 2: cage since the dom Res win shortly after. If you remember,

486
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 2: he did give up the title saying he's moving up.

487
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's three years. I'll give him a year

488
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: to rebuild his body and take his time. Okay. You

489
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: add in what you mentioned some legitimate outside the cage

490
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: issues with arrest and family situations and repositioning his life

491
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: and all that. Okay, I'll add on another six months

492
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 2: to even a year. That's still two years. And we're

493
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 2: coming up on three years away. So if we've had

494
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Speaker 2: to wait this long and with all the potential options,

495
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: and again no disrespect to Curtis Blades, but if it's

496
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: going to a line where in some form in the

497
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 2: next six months both John Jones and Franciscano will both

498
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: be ready, you might as well just wait to put

499
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: him together at this point, because that is the fight.

500
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 2: I love other permutations of a John Jones come back earlier.

501
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: You know how much I love the idea of a

502
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: non title John Jones versus taytoy Vas, a pay per

503
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 2: view main event that just says fit, let's have fun,

504
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: will give John a test, but it's just gonna be

505
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: you know, violence and war. I love that too. I

506
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 2: think that's a perfect soft launch. But short of that,

507
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: if Francis is coming back, I don't want to see

508
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: him against Cyril Gunn or Stepe or I mean STEVEE

509
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: would have worked with the history, but or Curtis Blades.

510
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: It's gotta be Francis versus John. And like I said

511
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: to start the segment, what we don't know about John

512
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: in terms of what exactly he'll look like at heavyweight,

513
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 2: I think we'll fuel the build and the want to

514
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 2: find that out. I want to find that out first

515
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: in a full title match against Francis. I'm at that

516
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 2: point now. I've waited too long. And look, if we

517
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: wait any longer than the next time you show up

518
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: at a John Jones press conference, you know what you're

519
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: gonna say to him, you're gonna raise your hand and say, hey, John,

520
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 2: your thirties have been largely wasted. How will you look

521
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: back on this decade? And you know what he'll say

522
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: this time, Luke, I thought I told you at two fourteen,

523
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 2: you piece of shit. I don't like you and I

524
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: never will.

525
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: That's a great joke, man, I'm glad you're telling it again.

526
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: Super good. Hey.

527
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: Since twenty eleven where he fought one, two, three, four times,

528
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 3: John Jones fought four times in twenty eleven, twenty twelve,

529
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: he fought twice, twenty thirteen twice, Okay, so that's pretty decent.

530
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen once, twenty fifteen, once, twenty sixteen, once, twenty seventeen, once,

531
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, once, twenty nineteen twice that was with Anthony

532
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 3: Smith and Iciago Santo's fights, and then twenty twenty once BC,

533
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: not even taking into account the fact that it'll be

534
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: three years basically and more if he fights actually in March,

535
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 3: because the last one was February eighth of twenty twenty,

536
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: so it'll be more than three years. But even before that, dude,

537
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 3: he has missed significant amounts of time, dating all the

538
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: way back basically to twenty fourteen the Baltimore Fights and

539
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 3: only competing once a year basically since that time. I

540
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: will say this, man, if he goes in there and

541
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: like runs the table on whoever it is, gone blades

542
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: and go on whatever. I mean, just to beat those

543
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: guys while all the time off, would be amazing. If

544
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 3: he goes in there and shines, dude, he would be

545
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: the outlier of all outliers, of all outliers.

546
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you said that, because what we're asking

547
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: of him, what I'm asking of him, I'm asking everybody

548
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: to just kind of wait a little bit longer, get

549
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: Francis resigned, and just make John versus Francis for the title.

550
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: It's the biggest heavyweight fight you can make, right, Lesler's

551
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: not coming through that door. We're not pulling in casuals.

552
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: This is the biggest fight you can make. That's asking

553
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: a frickin' lot of John Jones to make his heavyweight

554
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: debut against that monster on that stage, with this much

555
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: time off, but with membership as the current reigning goat.

556
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: In my eyes, that's the type of responsibility it comes with.

557
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: And looke for other fighters, you'd be nervous. I mean Look,

558
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: it takes a rare breed what GSP did after five

559
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: years to beat BIS being in a division up. I mean,

560
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: there's a reason why that's such a beloved moment. It

561
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: takes a special kind of metal to be able to

562
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 2: shake off any ring, rush, shake off the things going

563
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: on in your life, move up, redo your body, and

564
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: then go in there and beat that killer. But if

565
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 2: anybody can do it, it actually is John Jones. And

566
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: to your point, if he does it, dude, we don't.

567
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: We're not gonna have a goat discussion ever.

568
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: Again.

569
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: That upper room, they're gonna carve out a hole in

570
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: the ceiling and make a little attic in there, and

571
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: John Jones will sit up there alone, right and everybody

572
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: else will be looking up at him. And despite all

573
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: the shit he's put himself as family, MMA, fans and

574
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: the company through, I'll still bow down and say, yeah,

575
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: you're the greatest I've ever seen, because that accomplishment is insane.

576
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 2: But it's in play, Luke, it's still in play.

577
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: I would agree you if he can come back and

578
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: win after all of this time off again, not just

579
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: the three years, all the years prior to that, with

580
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: all of the issues inside the cage, outside the cage, dude,

581
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: I was just looking at me and just I know

582
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: this is not what we're talking about, but like, listen

583
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: to his numbers, so this is you know, the guy

584
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: made his UFC debut back in two thousand and eight, okay,

585
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: twenty eight to twenty twenty two. Basically, I grant a

586
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: significant time off in various places. Strikes landing permitted four

587
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: point three, strikes absorbed two point two, like like an

588
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: over to positive differential striking accuracy fifty seven. That's high

589
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: striking defense sixty four percent. That's high takedowns per fifteen

590
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: minutes one point eight five. That's good take down accuracy

591
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: forty four percent. But we all know that's not really

592
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: a very strong indication of anything. Take down defense ready

593
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: for this guy made his UFC debut in two thousand

594
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 3: and eight, is take down defense is ninety five percent

595
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: ninety five that's after two fights with Cormier, ninety five percent.

596
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, I'm telling you, if he comes back,

597
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: the debate is fucking over, over over, completely over. And

598
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: you know, not my best friend, I wouldn't care if

599
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: he ever came back, but if he does, and he

600
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: looks the way that some people think he's going to

601
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how he did drugs. Well, all your

602
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: favorite athletes are on drugs stock.

603
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, at some point, at some point, we're

604
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: all gonna wake up and call Barry Bonds maybe the

605
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: greatest baseball player of all time. And look, it's comical

606
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: how much he rooted, probably because his numbers were nicole,

607
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: his jack size at age forty, with a small bat

608
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: being intentionally walked one hundred and fifty times. I mean,

609
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: it's all comical, but that's the reality of sports. And

610
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: at that at you know, the two thousands, he may

611
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: have been the best baseball player anyone has ever seen.

612
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: John Jones is that in fighting? And I really wish

613
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: you would have at least sold a little bit my

614
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: John Jones come back thirties joke. I mean, I get it.

615
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: I get it's the ones, you know, I get it's

616
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: it's very low hanging fruit, but it's large, you know,

617
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: I mean it was you know, it's still still got

618
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: a little bit of life to it. But damn, I mean, seriously,

619
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: this is a big deal. And maybe it won't get

620
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: a million and a half buys like I wanted to

621
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: or two million buys if they do John versus Anghanu.

622
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: But there's a lot at stake there and a lot

623
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: of pressure on John, but he is he has built

624
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: for this in that regard, Luk, I did want to

625
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: ask you before we get up, John Jones completely Yes,

626
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm here to promote our Anthony Smith Room Service Diaries.

627
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: Do you have any response to I guess what some

628
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: people thought was a controversial take by Anthony Smith in

629
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: our RSD where he says, look, looking back on my

630
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: title loss to John Jones, I feel like he's very beatable.

631
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: I feel like he's very basic in a lot of categories.

632
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 2: It's just that he's very good in so many categories.

633
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: Is that like happenstance? I could have been a contender.

634
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: I'd love to get it again. Talk from an athlete

635
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: who has to be stubborn to be able to keep,

636
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: you know, reinventing himself. Or is it disillusioned?

637
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: I think partly people.

638
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: I think people misread that one a little bit, not totally,

639
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: but a little bit. Like I think mostly what drives

640
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: Smith's opinions about that fight is his own regret about himself, right,

641
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: Like he's mad at himself. For not performing up to

642
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: the level that which he thought he could perform. And

643
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone can say that like that's the

644
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: best version of Anthony Smith they ever saw. Again, a

645
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: lot of that is what John Jones was doing to him.

646
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: But I think what drives a lot of that is

647
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: just a lot of personal regret over having the ability

648
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: to fight a different fight and not being able to

649
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: execute in the way that you thought, especially against an

650
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: opponent who in some ways I'm not going to say

651
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 3: was there for the taking, but you know that could

652
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: have been and should have been a closer fight. And

653
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: now maybe you think John's gonna win no matter what. Fine,

654
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: I'm not here to argue with that. I you know,

655
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 3: I think John would have won that one. I would

656
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: pick him in most cases too. But I think it's

657
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: that's what's driving And also his central point is I

658
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: think not it's not totally off right what he says, Like,

659
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: you know, what is John super elite at you know,

660
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: an individual composite arts. He's a very good wrestler, right

661
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: like that, you could say, especially on the defensive side,

662
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: but beyond that, like on the offensive side, his numbers

663
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: decline badly at the end of his light heavyweight run,

664
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: they mean they dropped off a cliff. I did a

665
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: whole video on it, like they weren't nearly as good

666
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: as they once were. And so you begin to look

667
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: at you like, what is he truly elite at? Based

668
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: on what we know from the end of his light

669
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: heavyweight run. What makes him elite is that he's very

670
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: good at everything and that he blends it. But the

671
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: individual composite parts are not overwhelming. Like on the ground,

672
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: he's not Haddra Gracie standing up, he's not Radtang, you know.

673
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: With wrestling, he's not Habib Like, that's not who this

674
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: guy is. So at least wasn't at the end. There

675
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: there were certain parts of his career where the wrestling

676
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: was dominant, and so, you know, I think he I

677
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: think he underplays the argument about what the blending means

678
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: and how it elevates his whole game. But the part

679
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: about the composite sports being not as elite in anyone

680
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: respect his folks imagine them to be. I don't think

681
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: that's that's that crazy. I really don't.

682
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you of the belief that we see? This

683
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: is what I really want to se about John heavyweight,

684
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 2: not just you know, resistant punch, resistance against the elites,

685
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: not just is he going to be slick enough with

686
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: a light heavyweight body with more muscle on it to

687
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: just you know, reinvent himself. And you know, even though

688
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: he's thirty five, we don't pan it because it's heavyweight.

689
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 2: Do you think John offensively wrestles at heavyweight in ways

690
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: that he didn't always need to at light heavyweight?

691
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: He wrestled a lot at light heavyweight, almost two takedowns

692
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: per fifteen minutes.

693
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: True, but toward the towards the end of the rain,

694
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: it was more about keeping people at bay.

695
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: Couldn't get him because he didn't try. He couldn't get him.

696
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: Well, he sat back and wanted to kind of make

697
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: you pay for your mistakes and make you you could look,

698
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: that eighty four inch reach of light heavyweight or whatever

699
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 2: it was is ridiculous.

700
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

701
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: He used that to his advantage in ways people say,

702
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: is he does at middleweight, you know until Poeton, But

703
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: I think he could be a you know if he

704
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: if he makes that a part of the game plan

705
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: Luke to control people and and and gas them out

706
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: at heavyweight and try to minimize the effects of their power.

707
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: He could be even more dangerous than we thought.

708
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: Right, if he can wrestle like he used to with

709
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: that ability at heavyweight.

710
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: He yeah, he won't be beaten. He won't be beaten.

711
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 2: But it's like, how many times can you f up

712
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: karmel wise? How many times can you take time off?

713
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: How many times can you be Teflon? We know what like,

714
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: look love him or hate him? How many times can

715
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: you get away with it? You know, we at some

716
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: points in the end of Floyd Mayweather's career, especially when

717
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: he was you know, we went to jail in twenty twelve,

718
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: we were sort of saying the same thing. To Floyd's credit,

719
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: he was always able to hold things together in the

720
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: ring despite what's going on outside of it, and he

721
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: did it on his own terms. And he was fifty

722
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: to zero and he's still beating up people are on

723
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: the globe today. True John?

724
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: True?

725
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: Could John be Teflon in that same way? That's the alarm.

726
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: I do want to move on.

727
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: But the last thing I would say on this BC

728
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: to answer that question, because I do think it's a

729
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: good question, is this is the difference. Though MMA is

730
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: still a very young sport and is rapidly evolving. Like

731
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: the guys he was stunting on in twenty eleven and twelve. Yeah,

732
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: I mean some of them are still around in certain ways,

733
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: but the game itself has advanced considerably now, maybe not

734
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: as much as heavyweight. And so that's where he's making

735
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: that I'm gonna thread that needle and go up there

736
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: and see what happens.

737
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: And so that changes the equation a little bit. But

738
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, how much did.

739
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: Boxing really evolve between twenty twelve and twenty, say seventeen

740
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: or so.

741
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: It may have devolved.

742
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: Point like, yeah, again and again heavyweight relative to light heavyweight,

743
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a little bit easier. So there's part

744
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: of that in play too. But in general, like in general,

745
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: it's a much tougher game. It's a much tougher game.

746
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to see. All right, let's talk

747
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: about this the big card on Friday. It's the biggest

748
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: card this weekend. The twenty twenty two PFL World Championships

749
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: main card starts at eight pm. It is an ESPN paper,

750
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: ESPN plus excuse me, pay per view forty nine ninety nine.

751
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: If you are so inclined, your main event BC Kayla

752
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: Harrison taking on Larissa Pacheco for the women's featherweight championship.

753
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: Before I pitch you the first question about that, just

754
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: as a reminder, who's on this card. You have the

755
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: featherweight championship between Brendan Locknan and Bubba Jenkins. You have

756
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: the heavyweight championship from between Antey Delia and Mateya Scheffel.

757
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: You have the lightweight Stevie Ray Olivier, a'bin Marcia to

758
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: UFC Vets Delano Taylor, Dylano Taylor versus Sada Buc at welterweight.

759
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: I've interviewed see a couple of times Omaro Akimedov and

760
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: then Rob Wilkinson at light heavyweight. Also on that card

761
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: Aspen Lad versus Julia Bud Marlon Moris was to Shaman

762
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: Marish and no they're not related. And it goes on

763
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: from there. Jeremy Stevens on the card Magamun loser.

764
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: Has to change his name. I hear Luke okay, I hear,

765
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: loser has to change his surname.

766
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: All right, So b C Kayla Harrison Lissa Pacheco let

767
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: would be their third meeting. I went and I rewatched

768
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 3: both of them in the second one BC, the scores

769
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: were fifty forty three and then two fifty forty fives.

770
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll set it up for you or shoot me.

771
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: What are you gonna he thought?

772
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Should I care about this fight?

773
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: Here's why. First of all, it's Larisa and so can

774
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: you put a little bit of respect on her name, Luke?

775
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I will accept that Larissa Pacheco.

776
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of reasons.

777
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Why.

778
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: Number one, because Larissa Pacheco has what seemingly nobody else

779
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: really has in this division to be a true threat

780
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: to Kayla Harrison, and that's legit power and even to

781
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: the degree of potential one punch power. Number one. Number two,

782
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: despite the fact that, yes, she does have two defeats

783
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: to Kayla Harrison, and they both came in twenty nineteen,

784
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: one in the regular season of three run unanimous decision,

785
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: and one in the championship of that twenty nineteen regular season,

786
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: a five round unanimous decision that, to your point, was

787
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: very wide. But if you look up and down that run,

788
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: Kayla Harrison's finishing percentage against people not named Larsa Pacheco

789
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: under the PFL banner is like insane. So you have

790
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: somebody that has a built in level of toughness and resistance,

791
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: who looked after they took twenty twenty off due to COVID.

792
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: They reunited last year in the twenty twenty one season,

793
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: Loresa Pacheco was looking to be on her way to

794
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: becoming that challenge for Kayla and seeing how much the

795
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: two years off changed her and she got her or no,

796
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: she missed weight by two pounds, she got kicked out

797
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: of the semi final. I mean it's her fault. She

798
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 2: she lost the opportunity. Kayla went on to demolish the

799
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: other two ladies standing. This is her chance to come back,

800
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: no excuses and prove how dynamic of a threat she is.

801
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: To her credit Larisa Pacheco. Here's probably the third reason

802
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: why I got a little bit of confidence that this

803
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: could be worth your time and worth worth watching for

804
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: the twenty eight year old Pacheco, who, by the way,

805
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: yes does have losses in the UFC to gdr In

806
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: Andrage at bantam. Wait since the second loss to Kayla Harrison,

807
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: she's five and zero with five first round knockouts. So

808
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: Pachaco has done everything since she last loss to prepare

809
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: herself to be as dangerous as possible to maybe be

810
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: the only one in this division that can really challenge Kayla.

811
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Kyla may go out there and just you know, ragdall

812
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: her and get to the finish line. But Kayla has

813
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: proven in two fights she hasn't been able to stop Pacheko.

814
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: I think this is worth watching. I think Pachaco could

815
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: not have more motivation to go out there, be dangerous,

816
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: go for it. And Luke, she has improved in the

817
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: three years since that loss. She's demolished everybody else. No

818
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: one's trying to claim that this division's deep. Okay, it's not,

819
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: but she has demolished the competition. I think we give

820
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: her a little bit of respect for the power in

821
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: the experience she brings in here and say, look, how like,

822
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: how hard is this for Kayla Harrison to get I know,

823
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: there's a million dollars, it's a pay per view championship.

824
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: You should be motivated. But she has to constantly get

825
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: herself motivated to people that against people that you look

826
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: at the odds, they have no fricking chance. When we

827
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: try to break it down, we know they have no

828
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: freaking chance. To her credit, she's been able to demolish

829
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: most of them and cut pro wrestling promos after. But

830
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: you do have to ask yourself, how long does that

831
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: catch up with you? You know, can you actively pull deep

832
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: and get the very best of yourself every single time

833
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: when that motivation isn't always there? All that, this is

834
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: a real fight, this is a real challenge, So, Luke,

835
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: I think that we should we should kind of suspend

836
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: the history and look at it that way and just say,

837
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: Kayla's gonna have to go out once again and prove

838
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 2: that she can disarm this dangerous opponent who may be

839
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: the only shot at somebody putting her away. Here.

840
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 3: The odds makers disagree with you. They have this as

841
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: the widest fight by a considerable margin on this entire

842
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: car and our friends at Caesars have Kayla Harrison at

843
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: a minus six point fifty. They have Larisa Picheco at

844
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: a plus four seventy five. I don't have the odds

845
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: of their other fights in front of me to see

846
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: how that compares. I would imagine it's roughly approximate. I

847
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: will agree with you, I think on one thing we

848
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: see that does deserve to be noted. Now, Harrison has

849
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: locked horns with Pacheco for eight rounds if you look

850
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 3: at the last five of them, in part of the

851
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: first three as well. I have noticed a distinct lack

852
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: of ground and pound from Harrison in these fights. Now

853
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if that's intentional. In fact, I think

854
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: that it is, because you'll recall that one sort of

855
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: stint and invicta that Harrison had she was lighting her

856
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: opponent up with elbows and it was a disaster and

857
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: cutting her up and it was all kinds of stuff.

858
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: But in general, I find that in those fights, and

859
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: partly it's the rule set obviously, but I also find

860
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: that she just doesn't have at least in their second fight,

861
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: I'll put it that way. I did not see enough

862
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: ground and pound in the second fight between Harrison and Pacheco,

863
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: not to not win. Obviously, she won walking away, she

864
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: got the ten on all three judges scorecards for all

865
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: five rounds, but rather that Pacheco was just kind of

866
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: always hanging around, and then she was pressuring hard in

867
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: the fifth round before being taken down and then mounted again,

868
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: and so you're like, well, she can always go back

869
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: to the takedown and then positional control.

870
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: But you know you're.

871
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: Giving someone now, if they fought eight rounds, you're gonna

872
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 3: give them nine rounds potentially ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, thirteen rounds.

873
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 3: That's a lot to give an opponent who's a big

874
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: puncher and who has faced that person obviously many rounds

875
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: before that. So I understand the odds and I do

876
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: agree with them. I think Harrison should win this one

877
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: without too much trouble. But I will say, if you

878
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: see her getting takedowns in the first three rounds or

879
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: so something like that, BC, but she's not delivering a

880
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: ton of punishment through them, that does to me make

881
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: the championship rounds a bit on the dicey side. Would

882
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: you agree with that?

883
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: Sure?

884
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

885
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 2: And look like you know I said, outside of Potaco

886
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 2: going the distance twice against her in her fifteen pro fights,

887
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: she's only ever been taken to the scorecards one other time,

888
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: and that was in May of this season's tournament. Remember

889
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 2: that fight against Marina Mock Hot Mock not to not.

890
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: Get Yeah, that was performance from.

891
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: Uh So, what I'm saying here is Kayla was very

892
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: you know, upset at herself for not being able to

893
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: get a finished there and for kind of not being

894
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: able to dominate in the way she's used to. Is

895
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: that a trend? Is this the perfect time? I mean,

896
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 2: I think your point about like how many rounds can

897
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 2: you give somebody who's still pretty damn good and Patiko

898
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: is a chance to try to try something new and

899
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: figure you out. I'm just saying that there's a kind

900
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: of a it's weird to set to ever try to

901
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: breathe words that. Like Kayla's kind of in a no

902
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: win situation this year because she had to resign with PFL.

903
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: They had matching rights. UFC offered her but didn't go

904
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 2: overboard and throwing, you know, and backing up the truck

905
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: to her, And that's the position they're gonna take. You're

906
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: gonna have to come to us on our terms and

907
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: earn it right, especially where you stand marketing wise. Right now,

908
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: we don't even know if she's gonna, you know what,

909
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: next year she's gonna be a pay per view fighter

910
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: against too, we don't even know. I mean, like, there

911
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: is a lot like this tests the true championship build

912
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: of her to be able to constantly get yourself back

913
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: on that level when it's sort of like what does

914
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: she have to gain this year? Luke out of besides

915
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: the one million, and I don't know, I don't want

916
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: to sneeze at that, but what does she have to gain?

917
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: The competitor in her can only keep doing this for

918
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: so long, Right, you may go out there and just

919
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, overlook an opponent or just be too

920
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: focused on trying to get a stoppage because you're trying

921
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: to make a big statement. I wonder how you know

922
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: if this ends up catching up with Kayla eventually and

923
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 2: she ends up in a really so.

924
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 3: There's just a couple of ways this could all go

925
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: real weirdly. So let's say that this fight plays out

926
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: like the last two where Harrison wins five rounds widely

927
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: fifty forty five or something like that, you know, some

928
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: version of that, and you're like, well, geez, this person

929
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: had thirteen rounds against Kayla and she couldn't win. Does

930
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: Kayla really have any real peers anywhere that that organization

931
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: can find That would probably tell you not. On the

932
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: other hand, even if Kayla wins, but wins the same

933
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: way she has been which is like a lot of

934
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: positional control and not a ton of round and pound,

935
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna say, well, where where's like the I mean,

936
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: you had thirteen rounds against this person, you couldn't put

937
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: them away? You know, is this really a dynamic talent

938
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: that we should be following. So there's there is pressure

939
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: on Kayla in that particular way where even if yes,

940
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 3: a victory would be great because she get a lot

941
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: of money and she secures the bag and God bless

942
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: her for it. But if the showing is not strong enough,

943
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: in other words, if she's strong enough to win but

944
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: not strong enough to finish, it's not the worst of

945
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: both worlds, but it's not the best place because it

946
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 3: shows that there isn't enough competition. And yet, even though

947
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 3: there's not enough competition, Harrison still couldn't get the finish

948
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: over her. That just doesn't create a lot of excitement

949
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: for any future opportunities for fans tuning in.

950
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 2: I mean, the pressure is on her every single fight

951
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: to finish the person in the first round and then

952
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: cut a pro wrestling promo afterwards, because there's no threat

953
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: to her outside of potentially Pacheco. So that's why it's

954
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: going to be interesting. Look, I think Kayla's wired like

955
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 2: few are, you know, I think you're right. The odds

956
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: say she should win. I do think there's danger here.

957
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: I would ultimately pick Kayla, but if things have the

958
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: potential to go war monkey, you are in there against

959
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: somebody who's battle tested, has fight ending power, as hungry

960
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: as Heck is probably embarrassed how things fell apart in

961
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: last season's tournament with a weight miss and like I mentioned,

962
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: is five and zero with five first round knockouts, sense

963
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: losing to Kayla. So you know what, I talked myself

964
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: back into this main event. There's legitimate debate, and we

965
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: were a big part of it of like should this

966
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: be a pay per view? Are they actually offering enough

967
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: to warrant this? You know, God bless them on the

968
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: final numbers, But I am very interested in this luke

969
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: to overall considering the Kala situation, because if Kayla is

970
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: on her way to you know, one day, fighting to

971
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: become the goat, you should finish the person that you

972
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: haven't been able to, right, you should figure out a

973
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: way to. I mean, the we're expecting her to go

974
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: in there and finish her, right, and that's not gonna

975
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: be easy.

976
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: That's right, That's right, all right, So on this card,

977
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: we're not going to go through all of them unless

978
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: you really want to. But the other one, the comaine

979
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: on this one, to me is highly interesting. Brendan Lockdin,

980
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 3: who of course famously was on the Contender series, wins

981
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: this fight, but goes for a takedown late. Dana says

982
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 3: no thanks, Well, he says, well, what the fuck a'm

983
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: I supposed to do with that? Goes to PFL and

984
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 3: now he fights Bubba Jenkins. Man, I remember, folks, I

985
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: don't know if you know the story BC, it was

986
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: big when he made the transition. Bubba Jenkins wrestled at

987
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: Penn State under Cale Sanderson, of course the powerhouse of

988
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: all powerhouse programs, and those two had a falling out

989
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: and so Jenkins left the program, went to Arizona State

990
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: and then won a national title at Arizona State his

991
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: senior year. It was a I can't, I cannot overstate

992
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: this to you. That was a massively triumphant moment for him, huge, huge, huge,

993
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: right because everyone thought he was just some malcontent who

994
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: wasn't that good and then he goes in there and

995
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 3: wins the national title.

996
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: Incredible.

997
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: I covered him at a Beat the Streets event when

998
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: he did a rapping intro for it. This was like

999
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: twenty ten or twenty eleven, and then he got into

1000
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: MMA and he was good, but he was, like it

1001
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: looked for a while, fatally flawed. Two losses to Georgia

1002
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: kar Khanian in Bellatore, he got bounced from there. He

1003
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: was kind of fighting in Russia and overseas places found

1004
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: a home in the PFL. He's nineteen to five. These

1005
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: guys both have a win over a Moller opponent this season.

1006
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: It seems to me BC.

1007
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: Brendan Lockman more well rounded, definitely more well rounded. Bubba Jenkins,

1008
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: it's Russell grapple or this is not a winnable contest.

1009
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1010
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, and I do think you

1011
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: kind of set the tune of it. It's a redemption

1012
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: story both ways. I like this fight. The odds are

1013
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: telling us that we should expect something fun special our

1014
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: friends at Caesars. At the moment, Luke has Lockan minus

1015
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: won sixty plus one thirty five for Jenkins, So this

1016
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: is going to be a great fight. But you know,

1017
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: Lockman has been hoping and waiting and building for this

1018
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: moment that validates that Dana White made a wrong decision,

1019
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: and you know he has an opportunity to get this

1020
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: as as even with being a slight favorite. But Bubba

1021
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: Jenkins has always been interesting. There's always been a wild

1022
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: card factor about him. Can he pull out a performance

1023
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: we didn't see coming here in this moment because this

1024
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: is also his chance a legitimate you know, I mean

1025
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: not just a million dollars in a title, but like

1026
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: a reputation of legitimacy outside of just being a name

1027
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 2: or being wild and crazy. It is a tough challenge.

1028
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: The odds do represent that it's going to be a battle, Luke.

1029
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: They both can can handle themselves on the ground. This

1030
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: is going to come down to who can strike This

1031
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: come down who can stand, And that's where Bunker Bubba

1032
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: Jenkins is crazy side of him could make waves here.

1033
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Luke.

1034
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: Also, I do wonder about Jenkins's gas tank, not just

1035
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: by virtue of the fact that it's five rounds, but

1036
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 3: the way in which he fights so wrestling and grappling

1037
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: intensive that you know, Locknan's tough and he's durable, and

1038
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: he's got stamina, and he is going to be hard

1039
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: to hold down. That one, to me, like I could

1040
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: very much see a case where Jenkins has just the

1041
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: better wrestling up front. Yeah, can he sustain that lead,

1042
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: so to speak, over the course of the fight, I

1043
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: don't know.

1044
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: He is eight and one in his last nine, Bubba Jenkins,

1045
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: and there's.

1046
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: Better time to Bubba Jenkins is on the best run

1047
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: of his career.

1048
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely, at least in MMA.

1049
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: There's been some you know, there's been a good amount

1050
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: of decisions in that too, so he has proven he

1051
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: can go of late. And a lot of those are

1052
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: three round fights. This is a five round championship fight.

1053
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: But I think all of those things we just laid out,

1054
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: they're both gonna be hungry. This is gonna be a

1055
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: good fight, all right. I'm talking myself into it as

1056
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: an MMA fan that's different from MMA pay per view customer.

1057
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: But I do like a lot of these matchups, like, look,

1058
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 2: you know what matchup's gonna bang this heavyweight championship because

1059
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: we were ready to all crown Bruno Capelosa Brazil a

1060
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: second time and start propping him up in the larger

1061
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: global heavyweight discussion. But it fell apart from him for

1062
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: him this year, and I think a big part of

1063
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: that was Mateya Scheffle stuffing all of his takedowns and

1064
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: gassing him out. And winning a decision against him. So

1065
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: luke Mateya. Scheffel, who came into here, has really and

1066
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: also ran in a lot of ways we weren't talking

1067
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: about him. He's gonna rematch Anti Deleisia, who knocked him

1068
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: out of the earlier this season in the second round

1069
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: of a war. This fight's gonna be fun. They're both

1070
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: gonna throw heavy leather because that's what they do. But

1071
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: Cheffer's been an interesting underdog wildcard to this tournament. I

1072
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't count him out, even getting by Anti the first

1073
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: time around. This is gonna be a fun fight.

1074
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah again, Delia, I think already beat it, as you indicated,

1075
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 3: he knocked him out in the second round when they

1076
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: fought earlier this season. But you just never get the

1077
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: sense that there's one PFL heavyweight who's clearly better than

1078
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: the other ones. Yes, on any given night, Like you

1079
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: get the sense that there are there some are better

1080
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 3: than others for sure and have different strengths. And I'm

1081
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 3: not saying it's the same fighter, but like, do you

1082
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: really get the sense that like one guy is head

1083
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 3: and shoulders above the rest.

1084
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't.

1085
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: It feels like there's a lot of parody in that division,

1086
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: so that could play out certainly on Friday Night BC.

1087
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: Any thoughts about Julia Budden Aspin Ladd, I'm gonna ask

1088
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: it this way as a reminder, this fight's at one

1089
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: forty five, not one thirty five, so there's a bit

1090
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: of a breathing room.

1091
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: So to speak. For lad Is, this is this must

1092
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: win for Aspen Ladd feels like it might.

1093
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: Be its must look very good, like without question, I

1094
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: mean that she's running out of options, right, She's running

1095
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: out of outs. This is an opportunity to reinvention here.

1096
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: But look, it's not gonna be easy. Like Julia bud

1097
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: was the bel Tour champion for a while, and she's

1098
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: got experience and she's got size here. I think the

1099
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: jury is the jury is out on Aspen Ladd in

1100
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: a lot of categories. Moving up from bantam weight now

1101
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: permanently is going to hopefully take off the pressure of

1102
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: her chronic weight missing and how much she was taxing

1103
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: her body physically. But you know, Julia budd Is is

1104
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: big for this weight class and coming down from fighting

1105
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: up at lightweight and trying to develop herself as a

1106
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: free agent pick up a legitimate threat to Kayla Harrison.

1107
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: That never happened. She lost, she was one on one

1108
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 2: in this season, didn't make the finals. But dude, aspen

1109
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 2: Lad has not yet to like truly prove that she's

1110
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: a contender at one forty five or can be a threat.

1111
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: She had that one decision loss in UFC when she

1112
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: was kind of forced to move up. Yeah, there's a

1113
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: lot that she's going to have to answer in this

1114
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: And the reason why I say she's gon to there

1115
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: is a scenario that this is an action fight and she,

1116
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: you know, could lose a decision, but lose it very

1117
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: competitively where it shows you, Okay, the fighting spirit's still there.

1118
00:49:59,120 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: You know.

1119
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: Basically, I think the biggest in cage thing a lot

1120
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: of outside the cage things she has to answer. The

1121
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: biggest in cage thing for me is aspen Lad's most

1122
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: recent fights. Her striking is just a lot of noise

1123
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: and movement without much coming out of it. Right, It's

1124
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 2: just a lot of yelling and moving and moving the hands,

1125
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 2: and it just hasn't She hasn't seemed confident, she hasn't

1126
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: seemed fluid, She seemed lost, And you know, I like

1127
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: the long term potential as a wrestler puncher, meaning you know,

1128
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: take you down good ground upon. There's times we've seen

1129
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: the animal come out of her in the past, but

1130
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: she's got to really come in here against a studied,

1131
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: proven opponent and Julia Budd, who's fought the you know,

1132
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: the best she's had the ability to and prove that

1133
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: she can outstrike her. In my opinion, if she can

1134
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: come out and do that, even win or lose, right

1135
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: show on the feet that she's legit and she's here,

1136
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways she can win on Friday night.

1137
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: But if she comes out here and loses Luke and

1138
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: doesn't look good, I don't know what else we're gonna

1139
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: say about her after that.

1140
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: Also reminder, Julia Budd has been around for quite some

1141
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: time and is always a physical fighter, but she's thirty

1142
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: nine thirty nine. Fair Like I say this, I'm gonna

1143
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: say it's slightly different than you must look good. It's

1144
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: probably true for Aspin Ladd. It's she should win this fight.

1145
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 3: She should win this fight. Quite candidly, she should win, are.

1146
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: You sure though? Looking she's coming up from thirty five,

1147
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 2: Bud's coming down from fifty five. I know she's older,

1148
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: but she's not easy to just handle. I mean, she's she's.

1149
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: Not easy to handle. But if one yes, you're right

1150
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: in that sense.

1151
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: Sure.

1152
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 3: But the way I look at it is Lad is

1153
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: supposed to be at one forty five. She was killing

1154
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: herself to get to one thirty five, so she should

1155
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: have more energy, more stamina, more ability to put the

1156
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: fight on her. And you've got Bud who is again

1157
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: quite a physical fighter and certainly an experienced one, but

1158
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 3: probably on the decline for her career, just giving the

1159
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 3: age and the natural way these things kind of go.

1160
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: I don't think it should be easy BC. So when

1161
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 3: I say it's must win in that sense, I don't

1162
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 3: mean that like, oh, like this is never a fight

1163
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: you should lose.

1164
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't mean that.

1165
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: I mean, if you are who we think you are,

1166
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: this should be the fight that you win, that you

1167
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: you should be able to pass this, and if you can't,

1168
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 3: it raises some serious questions. At that point, I got

1169
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: a question for you.

1170
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: I got a question for you quickly though. Yeah, on

1171
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: the outcome of this, there's a new segment brought to

1172
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: you by Mamita's look. I want to ask you if

1173
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: Eskmin Lad looks too good and looks like she made

1174
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: the right choice and whatever she did to change outside

1175
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: the cage has worked. And she goes in there and

1176
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: she stops Julia butt on the ground. Could be a

1177
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: you know, it could be a submission, could be just

1178
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: pounder out. Is she fighting Cayla Harrison on pay per

1179
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: view next year?

1180
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably?

1181
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I just want to get I just

1182
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: want to get that out there. Look, I wanted you to,

1183
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, bite on it and tell.

1184
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: Me what it takes.

1185
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: Stevie Ray taking an Olivier Auben Marcy eighties or two

1186
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: UFC vets o a m the French Canadian out of

1187
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: TriStar Jim up there. He has not lost since he

1188
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 3: fought Armin Saryuki in all the way back in twenty ten.

1189
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: BC.

1190
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: For this recent season, he beating Natan Schultz, he beat

1191
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: House Schmann, Fio, and then Alex Martinez. He won all

1192
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: three of those via decision. Stevie Ray had a little

1193
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: bit more of an interesting run. Loses to Alex Martinez

1194
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: to begin the season, then beats Anthony Pettis twice. It

1195
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,240
Speaker 3: brought him to this. It seems to me BC oam

1196
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: better wrestler, probably a better athlete, less miles on him,

1197
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: he should be able to get his hand raised here, right, I.

1198
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: Should First of all, don't ever forget Chuck Minhall is

1199
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: an OAM UFC T shirt that he regularly wears. But

1200
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: this should be Oam's moment. And I was gonna ask you, Luke, like,

1201
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 2: when I do this.

1202
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: What do you think of? What do I think of? Yeah?

1203
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: What's the first thing? Talk about your racism towards age?

1204
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Exactly? You all like people like you, Luke will wrongly

1205
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 2: jump at the race, the potential races, which it was.

1206
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: We got through that already. The point of that was

1207
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: to tell you were presenting a combat sports event to

1208
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: me that I might have should have cared about. But

1209
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: I was just being honest with you like you would

1210
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: have been to me in boxing and say, Luke, I

1211
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: don't care about it. You're gonna go. We'll see at

1212
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: the Waterburyopen next week. Yeah, sure, right, same thing right there.

1213
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: I felt like this for Ray and OAM like coming

1214
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: in looking at this, So I almost wanted to spin

1215
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: it on you and be like, I'm showing you my ignorance.

1216
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: Karaji Chop, I don't care about this fight. Why should

1217
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: I really care, though, Luke, because I've picked and choose

1218
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: off the PFL menu, and I've largely liked the last

1219
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: two seasons what I've tasted that can't I'd love to

1220
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: see that cage's SAT scores, first of all. Second of all,

1221
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: can you talk me into this like I just did

1222
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: to you with that heavyweight brawl or that women's fight

1223
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: in the main event.

1224
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: Not necessarily, I'll say this. Stevie Ray as.

1225
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: A good submission artist and obviously can strike a bit

1226
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: as well, you know, but I think his submissions are

1227
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 3: pretty spectacular. The one that he got over Anthony pedisl

1228
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: was remarkable. He certainly is battle tested. There's that as well.

1229
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he is a He's a guy who's not

1230
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 3: gonna be easy to beat for anyone. But but the

1231
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 3: oddsmakers are friends at Caesars. Minus three sixty for Oam

1232
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 3: plus two eighty for Stevie Ray. Oam just looks to

1233
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: me like he's had to pass different kinds of challenges

1234
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: in many ways, tougher kinds of challenges. He looks fresher

1235
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 3: to this point, just by the fact that both guys

1236
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: have been around for some time and he's more physical

1237
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 3: of the two. And he's got the wrestling advantage. Like,

1238
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't know how exciting it will be, BC. I

1239
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: think that much remains to be seen.

1240
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, could be. I'm not saying.

1241
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it won't be. I want to be

1242
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: very clear about that. I'm not saying it's gonna suck.

1243
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: That's not my point. But if if Oam has to

1244
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: get to the wrestling and rely on it, I think

1245
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: that option is there. There are paths for Stevie Ray,

1246
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: they're just not great ones. This is this is Oam's

1247
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 3: fight to lose, as best I can tell.

1248
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: I hope Oam gets it. I hope this is I mean,

1249
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: he's got a chance to really show what he's done

1250
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 2: since leaving the UFC, and and and this should be

1251
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: a great, a great turn in the wind streak to

1252
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: get that.

1253
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: Luke.

1254
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit more excited though about that.

1255
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 3: Walter wapeout you not as much, not as much Taylor

1256
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 3: versus See Taylor is interesting at twenty five years old.

1257
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: He has the loss of Maga man Magamn Karamov. But

1258
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 3: that you know that dude is real good, real real good,

1259
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: and he's got the win obviously over he stopped Rory

1260
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 3: McDonald and he's got wins over Joan Sevarino, so he's

1261
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: got like some legit wins.

1262
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Se is good.

1263
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: He hasn't had a stoppage I think since twenty nineteen.

1264
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong the body kicking hit over.

1265
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: Mashad.

1266
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: I interviewed him right around that time, and since then

1267
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 3: he's just been kind of a decision machine. I think

1268
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: he's got to win over Rory as well, if memory serves.

1269
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: Let me double check that.

1270
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: They both yes, okay, I'll tell you what they both have.

1271
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 3: They both recently see is a good athlete. He trains

1272
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: the Extreme Coutur. He made the move out of All

1273
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: Stars to Extreme Coutur. He's got a lot going for himself.

1274
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 3: But I've not been moved in the kind of way

1275
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: you might imagine.

1276
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't know. I think it's gonna be

1277
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: a fun fight. I mean, both, like you said, have

1278
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 2: recently beating Rory, but both have their last defeat having

1279
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: come against Magam Mat karamofv who's on the undercard of

1280
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: this card, by the way, and not in the championship.

1281
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: They both are Look, they're both long there. They can

1282
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: be selective and patient, but once they get going in

1283
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: a fight, they both tend to take chances and and

1284
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: go after it. I think it's gonna be a wild fight,

1285
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: I do. I think it's gonna be an interesting fight

1286
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: to see who kind of has next in this division

1287
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: four PFL. Because Rory fizzled out, Malcolm mccaramoff didn't make

1288
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: it back here. Both of these guys in their wins

1289
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: over Rory's particularly which got a lot of attention, seemed

1290
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: to overwhelm him and kind of force him, you know,

1291
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: force the fight out of him. I'm interested to see

1292
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: what they can do against each other. Luke and uh

1293
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 2: Malcolm Karanov by the way, Uh he he knocked out

1294
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: Taylor this season, but not but was he in the tournament?

1295
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know his situation, Luke. That's the only

1296
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: fight he had this calendar year. He'll be on the

1297
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: undercard there. He last lost in the twenty one championship

1298
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: by knockout to Ray Cooper the third, who also didn't

1299
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: make the finals here. But you know, we would have

1300
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: picked anyone else but these two guys, it seems. Coming

1301
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: into this year's tournament and look at where they are now. Luke,

1302
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: let's give him a chance to go out there and

1303
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: let their hands go and do this thing. Okay, I'm

1304
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: into this.

1305
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: Get me ou Yeah, I forgot exactly how Mecca Man

1306
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: Karamlo have ended up not here. He did have the

1307
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: fight against Joan Zeferino. They got canceled.

1308
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: Twice, okay, and he has the bout against Lisa Tebow

1309
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: coming up.

1310
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: So I think he just didn't have enough to advance

1311
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 3: in the tournament, or he must have gotten injured and

1312
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: some part of it was moved.

1313
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: I forgot.

1314
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a lot of quiet like COVID things

1315
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: that knock people out of the tournament. I believe Luke

1316
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: and travel visa travel issues right.

1317
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: Yes, that was it as well.

1318
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: Yes, there was a lot of issues that caused late

1319
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: changes or guys getting shots that they would otherwise would

1320
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: not have. Still, Taylor's only twenty five years old.

1321
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: He's a young guy.

1322
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: It's actually pretty good, so it should be kind of fun.

1323
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: And then, last but not least, we see again two

1324
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: UFC vets at middleweight, previously Omari Akmedov and then Rob Wilkinson.

1325
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: Rob Wilkinson, of course, was the guy that Izy fought

1326
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 3: in his UFC debut, made off had a fight I

1327
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 3: think with Wideman, not too recently, when he was still

1328
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: with UFCA. It might be Wideman's last fight, if I'm

1329
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: not mistaken.

1330
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: It's Widman's last win, right, yeah, yes, No, he lost

1331
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: to Wideman. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1332
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wideman won that one. But since then, since then

1333
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: he beat Tom Breeze and then he moved on. After

1334
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 3: losing to Brat Tavars, he fought Jordan Young he lost, okay, fine,

1335
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: But for this season he beat Victor Pesta I think,

1336
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: also a UFC vet uh good dude whose last name

1337
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: I cannot pronounce. He won via arm triangle. And then

1338
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: Josh Silvera who is the son of Conan, who was

1339
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: this up and coming prospect who's looking pretty good. Omari

1340
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: gets the win of him. Rob Wilkinson ballooned a little bit.

1341
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: He was always kind of a wrestle heavy type, right.

1342
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: So he makes his PFL debut. He beats Bruce Suto.

1343
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 3: Then he beat the same guy in Victor Pesta, and

1344
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 3: then Delon Monte, and then he did it in spectacular fashion.

1345
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: By the way, all three wins in the PFL come

1346
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: by way of stoppage for Wilkinson.

1347
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: He looks good b see.

1348
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 3: Omaro Menov is tough, he's hard to like re kind

1349
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: of stick it to for long periods of time. So

1350
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: that's gonna make this a little bit of a of a.

1351
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be an immediate bulldozing. I

1352
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 3: like Wilkinson's chances here, dude, he's doing a brand new man.

1353
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: Because I'm not sold on Omari ak medoff those two

1354
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: losses in three fights to end hiss ufc Run and

1355
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: then to get stopped in his PFL debut. I know

1356
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: he's turned it around since then, Luke, but you know,

1357
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: he seemed he looks better than he is in some ways,

1358
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like there's some parts of

1359
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: his game that that that I want to see him

1360
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: more dominant on the ground. I know he's willing on

1361
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: the feet, but this is Wilkinson's fight to win, and

1362
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: there and again, like oam, there's a there is that

1363
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: redemption possibility. Same thing of course in the Bubba Jenkins fight.

1364
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: So I like Wilkinson. Well, I'm looking trying to see

1365
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: what the odds were on this one. Look did you

1366
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: see that?

1367
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: All right?

1368
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: It's Wilkinson minus two fifty plus one, Yes, plus one

1369
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: ninety on some of these lines is uh ak medoff.

1370
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: So uh, you know, I would say though that I

1371
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: care about this the least tied with the ray Oam fight.

1372
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just I'm just being honest with you.

1373
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: I think the ray Fi is a little bit better. Candidly,

1374
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 3: I like it a little bit better.

1375
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: All right.

1376
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the PFL welterweight semi the playoffs here,

1377
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 3: and it was it was Roy McDonald versus Delano Taylor

1378
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: and thaught it with See versus Carlos Leal, and so

1379
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: of course you get See versus Taylor. I'm trying to

1380
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: see what happened in the quarterfinals of that round. I

1381
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: don't have that in front of me. I'll try and

1382
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: dig that up. How Mega mad Karamo ended up not

1383
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: being here. But those are your semis so that it

1384
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 3: ended up being what we got in the end, all right, PC,

1385
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: some fight announcements would love to hear what you have

1386
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 3: to think about and say about it.

1387
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna just brush over the Mariisch bowl. You're not

1388
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: gonna mention that Marlon at.

1389
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: Thirty four, maybe what is there what is there to say?

1390
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: Okay, well he's lost, you know, four in a row

1391
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: by knockout in five out of his last six. Can

1392
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: he survive a loss? Here to sham Um Rice.

1393
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: I thought he was retired. I thought he did retire,

1394
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: and then he's back. I don't love this fight. I

1395
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 3: think he should retire. I think he's taken a lot

1396
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: of damage. I think it's really changed him, and I

1397
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 3: worry about his brain health going forward.

1398
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: All right. The second biggest betting favorite is also on

1399
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: that prelim card, Natan Schult when he takes on Jeremy Stevens.

1400
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: So there you go.

1401
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 3: Naton Schultz is pretty pretty, pretty clever, disciplined striker. He

1402
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: should be able to win that against this version of

1403
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 3: Stevens again. Also, Maga met karamof against Leston Tibao. I

1404
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 3: would imagine Mega Matah.

1405
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: That's good.

1406
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that actually is one of the better fights on

1407
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 3: the card. Quite candidly, all right, fin announcements, BC. This

1408
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 3: one is a surprise to me. This one is a

1409
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: surprise to me. Not well, let me back that up.

1410
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 3: I get that again. People don't understand the matchmakers try

1411
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 3: to make certain fights and then it falls through, and

1412
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 3: then they have to go to plan B, Plan C,

1413
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: Plan D, and so on. They ended up with Gilbert

1414
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 3: Burns versus Neil Magni a UFC two eighty three. Nowe

1415
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: Neil magnet is coming off of a great win. Burn's

1416
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: coming off of that loss to Hamzad Chimaya, but again

1417
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 3: something of a redemptive loss, such that they exist because

1418
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 3: he performed quite well. Some people, in fact, thought he

1419
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: actually won BC. We thought they were gonna make Burns

1420
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 3: versus Jorge masvital and they didn't. There was some chirping

1421
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 3: back and forth in social media.

1422
01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: They ended up here.

1423
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 3: I don't hate this fight necessarily, And if Burns is

1424
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 3: washed from the Chamaiah fight or like you know, shopworn

1425
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: as a consequence, then this one could be kind of close.

1426
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: But if Burns is still pretty fresh, it shouldn't be, right.

1427
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't like anything about this fight.

1428
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: It feels what it appears to be is like neither

1429
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: had anywhere else to go. But you know, they're both

1430
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: fighters and they want to be active and they want

1431
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: to get out there. And it's not that there's no

1432
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 2: potential stakes in this fight. I mean, it's much bigger

1433
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: fight for Magni, without question, But you know, you don't

1434
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: event you don't at the same time leap to the

1435
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: front of the line. It's not that type of fight.

1436
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 2: And I felt for Gilbert Burns, you know, considering the

1437
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: performance he was willing to put out against JAMAIAV and

1438
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: that he was willing to take that fight when people

1439
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: didn't want to. I kind of echo what was his

1440
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: words what we talked about him coming into that Chamaiah

1441
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: fight when we sat down with him. You know, I

1442
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: feel like he should be should have been in the

1443
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: conversation for the Jorge fight or the Covington fight. And

1444
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: I know him and Jorge went back and forth, and

1445
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 2: I don't know who's side to believe all that stuff.

1446
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: Was it possible that he could have waited based on

1447
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: Jorge's most recent suggestion and fought Jorge on a pay

1448
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: per view? You know, Comaine in Europe underneath the trilogy

1449
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: of Usman in Edwards, that seems to me a much

1450
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: better fight, I don't. I mean, if you're Gilbert, outside

1451
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: of staying busy and you know, getting another paycheck and

1452
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: getting to do what you love, you don't gain much

1453
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: at all from this fight. I mean, you know, Neil

1454
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: Magne is the kind of guy that people just don't

1455
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: look good against. And I'm not here to say Neil

1456
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: Magne shouldn't get the opportunity at this level of fight. No,

1457
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm not here to say that. I'm just saying this

1458
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: is a surprise, and I don't think they both benefit

1459
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 2: from it. And I think that's what you sort of

1460
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: would want from a fight like this.

1461
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: That's probably pretty fair.

1462
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: I mean, what stands out to me what's so interesting

1463
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 3: is there are certain questions that follow a fighter no

1464
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: matter what the fight booking. But it is also true

1465
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: that certain questions get raised specific to the fight booking.

1466
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: Let me give you an example.

1467
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: If we were doing Gilbert Burns versus Hamzat Chimayav who

1468
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: we would not be asking in the same way the

1469
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 3: kind of questions we are now that he's fighting Neil Magne,

1470
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 3: where you're like, well, gee, maybe he is kind of

1471
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 3: long in the tooth and maybe that fight did really

1472
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 3: wear him down. In other words, like who you get

1473
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: pitted against either elevates the tenor of the questions or

1474
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 3: kind of brings about more criticism, depending on which way

1475
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 3: the matchmaking goes in the booking itself. And I think

1476
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 3: by getting matched against Neil Magne, who again is a

1477
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 3: very talented fighter, and if Burns in fact is not

1478
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 3: up to par, this is a very wunerable fight for

1479
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: Magnee in that sense. But if Burns is who we

1480
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 3: think he is, this should be relatively straightforward. It's just

1481
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 3: kind of interesting to me that getting booked against someone

1482
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 3: who you are perceived to be widely better than makes

1483
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 3: the questions about Gilbert Burns trend towards the lowering side,

1484
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 3: not the elevating side. And I don't know how fair

1485
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: that is or even accurate, but it tends to follow

1486
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: that path one way or the other.

1487
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: You think that's fair.

1488
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: I do think that's fair. I mean, if this was

1489
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 2: instead Belall versus Gilbert, we would all be like, yeah, sure, great, right,

1490
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: like winner probably gets a title shot, right. I just

1491
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: don't feel that that's the same thing here. And I

1492
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 2: thought Magni was in the single digits of rankings, and

1493
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: you know, you can argue that he might deserve it. No,

1494
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 2: he's like he's on the outside looking in. I just man,

1495
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean, good to both for signing up. And it's

1496
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: not that the fight sucks. There is an element where

1497
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 2: it could be you know, look, if Magnie can neutralize

1498
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: Gilbert's explosiveness. It may not be the most entertaining fight,

1499
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 2: but it will probably work out great in the end.

1500
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: I just feel like Gilbert Burns showed you against JEMAIAV

1501
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: that he's two things at the same time. Right now,

1502
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: he's an aging, respected brand who will give you the

1503
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: goods of an action fight no matter how you know

1504
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 2: you match him. But he's also a sneaky title contender still,

1505
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: so you know this is not you know, it's not

1506
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: Anderson Silver versus Derek Brunson, but I did have a

1507
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: similar Really you're doing that.

1508
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: Speaking of Derek Brunson, we move on. He is out.

1509
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 3: So now Jack Hermannson's gonna fight Roman Dalidze, which is

1510
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: set for UFC Orlando December three. BC thoughts on her

1511
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 3: Manson versus dalids Yeah, I.

1512
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: Think it's gonna be a great fight because I because

1513
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, her Manson sneaky. He's definitely skilled, but he

1514
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: loves to fight and and and he's willing to lean

1515
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: on that to get through there. And I think Roman

1516
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: LEDs in a short burst of late is showing people

1517
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: that he wants to be a hammer. He wants us

1518
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: to consider him, you know, hammer time in that larger conversation.

1519
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: So it feels like a step up opportunity for him

1520
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: and for a replacement. I like it. And look, is

1521
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: he officially Chyenne's man's or are we just we're done.

1522
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: With that conversation. Don't care, not my business.

1523
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, did she move to Europe for him? I mean,

1524
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: poor poor JP.

1525
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: But you know that happens once again. Don't care, not

1526
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: my business.

1527
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 3: But I will say this BC, this is jack Er Manson.

1528
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: Can't be fucking around here, No, this is uh Dalids

1529
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 3: looked to me like massively improved over the last.

1530
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: Couple of fights he's had. He's a heavy hitter her Manson.

1531
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: I watched his I told you I bought and watched

1532
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 3: his entire seminar on ground pound.

1533
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: Was actually pretty good.

1534
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 3: But he's at the point now where he's trying to

1535
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 3: hang on to the spot he's got, and it feels

1536
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: like that connection's a little bit slipping the leeds. They

1537
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 3: could come in there and then close that whole show

1538
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 3: completely by getting a big win here. So that's big

1539
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 3: stakes in that one. If the leads they can avoid

1540
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: the ground and pound and the control on the ground thereafter.

1541
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 2: Look, do you think her Manson is in a spot

1542
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 2: where some veterans get to where you're like, I've gotten

1543
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: pretty far, but I have juggled wins and losses. You know,

1544
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 2: there are times that looked like I was making my

1545
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 2: move into real contention and then you know, I mean,

1546
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 2: split decision with Sean Strickland was a tough fight. He

1547
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: bought his balls off. Is there sort of a crossroads

1548
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 2: point you get to and he's thirty four where you're like,

1549
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: am I done improving? Like, you know, if I go

1550
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: out there and try to out smart and out skill

1551
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: and you know, beat people straight up? Or am I

1552
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: at a point where I need to take what I've

1553
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: built up in the skills I have and get a

1554
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: not full on Michael Chandler, but get to the point

1555
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: where it's like my best chance is to go for

1556
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: it and be that that you know, that that hammer

1557
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 2: that you're going to have to get past to get

1558
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 2: to your next step.

1559
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: I would just say at thirty four, the way it

1560
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: goes for most people is at thirty four. It's not

1561
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 3: that you can't add new things, right, you can, but

1562
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 3: they're very small at that point, right, you are at

1563
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 3: your genetic and the work development close to not not

1564
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: at it, but you're close to your peak. It's not

1565
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: like you are at twenty four, where you still have

1566
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 3: a lot of time left to add a lot of stuff.

1567
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: By thirty four, not totally, but you more or less

1568
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 3: are who you are. You can add different strategies, you

1569
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 3: can add different things for particular fights. You can still

1570
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 3: work on your overall skill development, but the increments are

1571
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: much slower to gain and they're much smaller in size

1572
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 3: to achieve. So you have to make a choice then

1573
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 3: to your point about what kind of fight you want

1574
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 3: to pursue thereafter. Do you want to just be a

1575
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 3: little bit more reckless and offensively geared or not? But

1576
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: either way, the skills you have developed by age thirty

1577
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 3: four is more or less heavyweight's notwithstanding, is more or

1578
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 3: less just.

1579
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: Who you are at that point.

1580
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 3: That's the sort of challenge at anyone at that age

1581
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 3: and those kind of weight divisions is up against b

1582
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 3: See this is a fun one.

1583
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: Drew dober is back ready for this one taking on

1584
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: Bobby Green. This will be.

1585
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 3: UFC Vegas sixty six, December seventeenth.

1586
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you I like this fight. This is

1587
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,440
Speaker 1: a fun little one. Ruh.

1588
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fun to watch. Yeah, I'm into that.

1589
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I'm with.

1590
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: You, Luke, you are in you know what's funny. I

1591
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 3: can't even be mad at your choices, per se. But

1592
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: I can't quite get a read on which fights you

1593
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 3: like and which fights you don't.

1594
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'm an absolute weirdoh looke. Okay, So it's you know,

1595
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: it's it's a pattern that's hard to follow. But uh,

1596
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,520
Speaker 2: you know, we all have our favorites, Luke, Okay.

1597
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean fair enough. I won't spend much time.

1598
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: Versus Anthony Smith. Wasn't my cup of tea on paper back.

1599
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: In the day.

1600
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 2: You know that's fine, all right?

1601
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 3: Not everyone likes it, all right, b Se, you gotta

1602
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 3: like this one. Umar number got made off was still

1603
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 3: undefeated taking on Hayoni Barcellos. This will be January fourteenth

1604
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: BC bit of trivia for you all the way back.

1605
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: Let's see when was this all the way back in

1606
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, back at UFC on ESPN plus twenty three.

1607
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: Barcelos defeated said.

1608
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 3: Number made off, who is related but sort of on

1609
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,839
Speaker 3: the outs and a bit of a different character.

1610
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 2: What do you think I'm really excited for this?

1611
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: Fight.

1612
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 2: You know, Hani Hani's gonna bring it and he's gonna

1613
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 2: go for it, and this this fight's gonna be a

1614
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: little bit wild at times. And but you know the

1615
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 2: pressure is on Umar now, right you know, it's like

1616
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: Islam just had his moment, usman Nermaga Medov just had

1617
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: his moment. It couldn't be a better time to be

1618
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: coach of, you know, on Tim Habib and the larger

1619
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 2: Haaveymer Javier Mendez aka family there. But specifically, you know,

1620
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: you hear the people say, no, Umar is better than

1621
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: them all. He doesn't have like that same exact hype

1622
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: that like Shavkat has every time he comes out now,

1623
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: but it looked great in his last win, and I

1624
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 2: feel like he knows what time it is, it's time

1625
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: to come out and impress again. So I think that's

1626
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: gonna make this fight very interesting to watch, Luke. And

1627
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, there's a good name for Umar to go

1628
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 2: up against right now, to kind of continue to remind

1629
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: us that he's coming on. I mean, I don't know

1630
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 2: how far away he is though, Luke, if he wins this,

1631
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: but he's entering the larger conversation, as is that team

1632
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: which is taking over the sport at the moment. True

1633
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: or false?

1634
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely true that they're taking us. He's twenty six,

1635
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 3: He's got three fights in the UFC. He beats Sergei

1636
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 3: Morozov we have were Naked Choke in his UFC debut

1637
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one. Then he beat Brian Kellehervia Were

1638
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: Naked Choke in twenty twenty two. And then he had

1639
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 3: the fight against Nate Manes this year in June. And

1640
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 3: while and while that one went to a decision, I

1641
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 3: think some of the scorers were like, you know, thirty

1642
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:46,480
Speaker 3: twenty five, dude.

1643
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: He looked for sensational against Manus, as he likes to

1644
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: pronounce it, he looks sensational.

1645
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: Meess, So that one's a fun one. That should be

1646
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: a fun one. January fourteenth BC. This one's got your

1647
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 3: name written all over it. May C Barber is back

1648
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 3: against Andrea Lee March twenty fifth. That is a big

1649
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 3: fight for Lee, who has been kind of very much

1650
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 3: up and down down of late. Macy Barber up of

1651
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 3: late in general. Tough fight one twenty five is it?

1652
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: What's the setting for this fight? Is this a colemane

1653
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 2: or something, because doesn't it feel like that.

1654
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let me see.

1655
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: I don't feel like this is a step forward for

1656
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 2: Macy in terms of matchmaking. Am I wrong? I mean,

1657
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: let's let's look at it.

1658
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 1: So no, I think that's pretty good. Yeah, what is?

1659
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 2: Uh? What? Let me I could look it up myself.

1660
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 2: But what is Angela ranked?

1661
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: Uh?

1662
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so currently Angela Lee. We're looking at women's flyweight, right,

1663
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 3: that's the division in question.

1664
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: Here.

1665
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 3: You've got Andrea Lee sitting at nine. You've got Macy

1666
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 3: Barber sitting at twelve.

1667
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so wrong with this fight ranking rise? It

1668
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of sense. I didn't realize Barbara.

1669
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I didn't realize Lee was that high. But

1670
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: look at the three fight win streak for Barbara after that,

1671
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, surprising back to back losses. Although I still

1672
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: think that Alexa Grosso won was closer than some do.

1673
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: You know, beat Miranda Maverick, beat Montana de la Rosa,

1674
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: and then beat former title challenger Jessica I. So, Luke,

1675
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: I think she's found the adjustments, you know, probably more

1676
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: mentally that she's needed to following that bad string. So

1677
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: ratings wise, this is the fight she has to take.

1678
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: I like her to win this, and I like her

1679
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: to win this big luke.

1680
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could. It could certainly be that way. Obviously,

1681
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: you have Barber's on a win streak. She has the

1682
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 3: win of a Mirando Maverick, which was a little bit contested.

1683
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 3: She obviously beat Montera de la Rosa, and then you

1684
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: know Jessica I. More recently, Lee has had again her

1685
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 3: share of ups and downs. She's had her issues, to

1686
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 3: put it, quite mildly, but is a very good striker,

1687
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 3: well rounded for the most part, experienced.

1688
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: This is this is I like this fight a lot.

1689
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: I don't have much negative to say about it.

1690
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: See, you had but that was a loaded weapon. You

1691
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: were waven when you were like, you know, had her issues?

1692
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 2: Did you mean like with men or tattoos or both

1693
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: or just fighting.

1694
01:14:59,400 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: Just fighting me?

1695
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 3: You know again, I think she has had some outside

1696
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: the issue aside the cage issues, some of which she

1697
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 3: is the victim of, which is unfortunate.

1698
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1699
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 3: In other cases, probably some poor choices, but you know,

1700
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: I don't wish poor things upon her. All right, BC,

1701
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: this is a fun one, and you know this is true.

1702
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: Belatore two ninety one. Man, I'm telling you if you

1703
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 3: didn't see the first one, it fucking rules. The rematch

1704
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 3: Logan story versus Yaroslav Amasov has been said Belatore two

1705
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 3: ninety one. This is going to be scheduled for February

1706
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 3: twenty fifth. Now, the original date was February fourth, but

1707
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 3: now we know that CBS show is there, so they're

1708
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 3: going to move it to later on that month.

1709
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: BC.

1710
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 3: I saw the first one. I was a three round

1711
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 3: fight and it was close, one of the best wrestling

1712
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 3: battles you'll ever see. And you're like, oh, I saw

1713
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: Logan Storly versus MVP, and that fight was boring, right,

1714
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 3: bro A, Masov ain't MVP.

1715
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: Not that guy.

1716
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 3: This dude can wrestle his ass off. They were scrambling

1717
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 3: back and forth. This was very closely contested. We haven't

1718
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 3: seen him since the war in Ukraine got started.

1719
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: And then some BC.

1720
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there's a lot to love about this fight

1721
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: that go beyond just hey, go watch their first one.

1722
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: It was three you know, it's a track meet of

1723
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: of you know, of grappling and exchanging on the feet.

1724
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 2: But this is in Dublin, Luke, we got to add

1725
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 2: that element to it. This is going to be soaked

1726
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: in that Dublin sauce in Ireland. Every time Bellatore goes there,

1727
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: it feels like, you know, UFC International Fight Week or

1728
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: the super Bowl or something. Dude, the like the only

1729
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: thing I don't love about this fight right now. I

1730
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: always knew they would rematchin it would be great and

1731
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 2: it would probably have a title on the line. I

1732
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 2: never doubted that. It's just the scoring in that close

1733
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 2: fight between Story and MVP. You know, I think under

1734
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: it's tough with the with the very gray way of

1735
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: looking at the letter of the law. But I feel

1736
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: like MVP won that, but you didn't. So we go

1737
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: right into this rematch. It's it's not going to be

1738
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: like that, Like you mentioned the contrast and styles aren't.

1739
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 2: Aren't setting us up to have have a schnoozer here?

1740
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,919
Speaker 2: And you add in the we haven't seen the champions

1741
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: sense this conflict broke out and you know some you

1742
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 2: know a lot of fighters put down their their career

1743
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: plans at the moment and enjoined the front line in

1744
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: some form. You know, Lomachenko, Usik, all those guys, and you, dude,

1745
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: you tip the hat to them for that. It seems

1746
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: like Amasov was like in deeper than most. Like this

1747
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: wasn't like a desk job. You know, he was actually

1748
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: you know, protecting neighborhoods and and uh, you know remember

1749
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 2: that that video where he found his belt, It was

1750
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 2: it was touching. He's also gonna have to answer for

1751
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: the time off here too, against a guy who's hungry

1752
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: and was close that first time around. Yeah, I couldn't

1753
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 2: ask for anything more for Belator from this fight, the date, that,

1754
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: the placement, all that stuff. This is gonna be a

1755
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: good one and this division is good. It's good right now, Luke.

1756
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 2: And so I want to see if MVP, who's not

1757
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: getting a younger either, can can find that that itch

1758
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 2: to get back it, you know, despite that Mike Perry

1759
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 2: sidestep and and get back into this title picture, because

1760
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: I think he got as close as he can come

1761
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: to finally having his moment as well. But uh, the

1762
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: way that we know these two fight, Amasov and your

1763
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: boys story, you can't be wrong here. This is gonna

1764
01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: be good. I don't I don't know who comes out

1765
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: on top. Given all the questions and circumstances here, Amasov.

1766
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 3: Is not quite the wrestler storly is, but he's very

1767
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: very good, surprisingly good, and he's definitely more well rounded.

1768
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: But with all the time off, you know, you just

1769
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 3: don't know what to make of it all. You just

1770
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: don't know what to make of it all.

1771
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: So Sly has stepped his game up to some degree

1772
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 2: with striking, but not completely, not completely. He's got a

1773
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 2: lot of work to do still.

1774
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 3: And remember Story could just wrestle balls out the first

1775
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 3: time because it was only three rounds. This one's for five,

1776
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 3: this one's for five, So it's a it's a title

1777
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 3: of unification because remember Story is the interim champion and

1778
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 3: then Amasov is the champion sort of at large, and

1779
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 3: now they're going to unify these titles for five rounds.

1780
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 3: You know, you've got to strike some of that time,

1781
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: and Amazov is just much better in that in that way,

1782
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: So we'll see how that goes. That's a fun fight

1783
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 3: that they got booked. Another beltoor fight. No, I don't

1784
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 3: have a whole lot to say about this one. Beltore

1785
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 3: two eighty nine, Denise Kielholt is taking on Ilara Joan.

1786
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: They both have losses to Kinda Watanabe kill. Holts obviously

1787
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 3: has got a black belt in judo, but is sort

1788
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: of known as a kickboxer. Joanne can is sort of

1789
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 3: you know, largely well rounded. I think prefers to strike

1790
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 3: as well. No strong thoughts to be see unless you.

1791
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 2: Do no no, I think I think kill Holts. You know,

1792
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: she got into a title shot. She she she tried

1793
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 2: late in her career to put it all together and

1794
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 2: she you know, she's made the transition in full time

1795
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 2: into the sport. I like the effort she put in,

1796
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 2: but it wasn't enough. She wasn't offensive enough, and she

1797
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: lost her title shot. This is her getting back to

1798
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: the table and team. Do I have one more big

1799
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: run left in me? You know, when she's active on

1800
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: the feed, I know a lot of times she's she's

1801
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 2: a smaller fighter in these matchups and gives up a

1802
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 2: lot of length. But when she can be explosive and

1803
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: dart in and out, I mean she she's a fun

1804
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: fighter to watch. It'll be interesting to see is she

1805
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 2: gonna get which direction is she going? After having her

1806
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 2: close up opportunity in bellator. I still think she's among

1807
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: the best in this division. So this'll be a tough fight,

1808
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: all right.

1809
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 3: Damon Jackson taking on Dan Egay. Damon Jackson has climbed

1810
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 3: his way up Dan Egay it certain he climbed his

1811
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 3: way up previously, but is now looking to get back there.

1812
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,480
Speaker 3: Tough fight against two well rounded veterans is January fourteenth.

1813
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: At the UFC Apex.

1814
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 3: Not massive stakes for the division per SEBC at one

1815
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 3: forty five, but definitely big stakes for their individual careers.

1816
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 3: Biggest fight Jackson's had to date, and Egay is a

1817
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 3: tough competitor.

1818
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 2: To put it quite mildly, I've always feared for Egay

1819
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: that when it does start not going his way, it

1820
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: could turn quick, Luke, because he fights a very aggressive

1821
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: power puncher style for a guy that I don't think

1822
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: has enough weapons to fight that style consistently. Is that

1823
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: Is that a fair categorization? Am I just a just

1824
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: a jerk and probably off of it?

1825
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: On it, I don't think it's totally off.

1826
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 3: Jackson was a guy who needed time to figure himself out,

1827
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 3: and I think he's finally done that. Ega was a

1828
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 3: guy who flew close to the sun. Len like Icarus,

1829
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 3: got a little bit burned. But you know, both guys

1830
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 3: have These are two guys who are probably fair to

1831
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 3: say not the very best in their division, but two

1832
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: guys who are intensely motivated to get better off of losses,

1833
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 3: and I know all of them are, but these are

1834
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 3: the guys who actually make those corn turns. So this

1835
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 3: is a This is a fun and tough one. Jackson's

1836
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 3: probably gonna wrestle a lot this time, so it's gonna

1837
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 3: be incumbent upon Ega to really work on that portion

1838
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 3: of his game, which is not bad but probably not

1839
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 3: the best portion of his game. So that'll be a

1840
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 3: fun one. And then last, but not least, BC we

1841
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 3: can it's not We'll do a weekend boxing preview here

1842
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 3: in just a minute. There was some confusion, and understandable

1843
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 3: because you got two Garcias named and there's one signed

1844
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 3: and one's not. Jervonte Davis and Ryan Garcia are tentatively

1845
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 3: set to fight later in twenty twenty three, after one

1846
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 3: or potentially both of them have what you could consider

1847
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 3: tune up fights or early fights, or however you want

1848
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 3: to phrase it. In the case of Jervonte Davis, he'll

1849
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 3: be in Washington, DC, I think January seventh, taking on

1850
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 3: Hector Luis Garcia. And if you don't know who Garcia is,

1851
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: this is a different Garcia. It's not Ryan Garcia. This

1852
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 3: Garcia BC, we talked about it on this show was

1853
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 3: the one who upset Chris Colbert and surprised us big time.

1854
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: So let me pitch you the question this way. How

1855
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 3: much of a challenge is this Guara for Tank Davis more.

1856
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 2: Than people realize, I'll say that, and I get what

1857
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: people are saying, Loo, I want to see Ryan Garcia

1858
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: against Tank right now. Hopefully we'll get it in April

1859
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 2: on pay per view in Las Vegas. Can't wait. And

1860
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: it looks like Ryan Garcia, by the way, all is

1861
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: going to do an interim fight according to reporting from

1862
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 2: Dan Rayfield January twenty first, no location, no opponent yet,

1863
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: and whether it's going to be a pay per view.

1864
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: So you can look at this and just say, well,

1865
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: it's not Ryan Garcia and this is really Tank coming

1866
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: back on pay per view to set up and preview

1867
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: that big showdown. And that's true, it is. But don't

1868
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: sleep on Hector Luis Garcia for this standpoint, not just

1869
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 2: that upset win over Colbert which kicked the doors in.

1870
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: Then he fought for the title against Roger Gutierrez at

1871
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty pounds and he wonted and he

1872
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 2: is from the Dominican Republic. He's very crafty, very smart

1873
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 2: in the ring, and durable. And look, I bring up

1874
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 2: that trainer's name a lot, Bob Santos. He has been

1875
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 2: in the business forever but is really starting to become

1876
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: a leading man. And he's you know, Carlos Sodamas's trainer.

1877
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: I mean, Andre Durab. There's a lot of guys he's

1878
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: joining with. I think he was with Ugus for a

1879
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: while recently. That guy is hot right now and on

1880
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: a run in terms of game planning against the opponent

1881
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: that yeah, you look at this, Okay, Davonte Davis should

1882
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: handle this guy who's moving up and taking the challenge

1883
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 2: against him. But are two unbeaten fighters, and Hector Luis

1884
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 2: Garcia has the type of seasoning that could very well

1885
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: make this a tough style matchup for Tanks. So I'm

1886
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 2: very much looking forward to it. Man. I hope they

1887
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 2: put Ryan Garcia in the front row for that fight,

1888
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: and I hope Tank's in the front row for whoever

1889
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 2: Garcia fights a couple weeks later, because this is the

1890
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: type of the fight Tank versus ra guy that demands

1891
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 2: a real build, a real bang the drums media tour,

1892
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, And sometimes we don't always love when they

1893
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 2: do the interim fight to set it up, you know,

1894
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,799
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury is doing that coming up ahead of hopefully

1895
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 2: him fighting Oosick. But sometimes that ends up being the

1896
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: best way to bang the drum and build it. But

1897
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 2: Tank's gonna have to earn it on this night. Do

1898
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 2: not sleep on, Hector. Luis Garcia'm gonna be looking for too.

1899
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: I am so happy to have a home game.

1900
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 3: Oh man, I am so happy to have a home game, dude.

1901
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this before. There's been some fights

1902
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 3: at National Harbor, including that who was it Maxim the

1903
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 3: poor guy who died? Yeah, yeah, or something like that.

1904
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 3: I forget his last name. I apologize. There's been some

1905
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 3: fights here. Tayofey Mopez fought an MGM National Harbor, which

1906
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 3: is right outside the city in Oxen Hill, Maryland. And

1907
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 3: of course there's been some Jimmy Lancards and some other ones.

1908
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,839
Speaker 3: You actually had Danny Swift Garcia, Sorry Danny, not Swift Garcia.

1909
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: You had Jared Hurd.

1910
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 3: Jared Swift heard excuse me, Jared Hurd taking on Jay

1911
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 3: rock over at the now Eagle Bank Arena, which used

1912
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 3: to be the Patriots Center on the campus of George

1913
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 3: Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia.

1914
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: But in terms of city limits, B see which this.

1915
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 3: Fight is going to take place at the Capitol One Arena,

1916
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 3: which is where the Wizards play, Which is where the

1917
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 3: Capitals play.

1918
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: This is the biggest fight.

1919
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: In the city since a mere con versus Lamont Spence,

1920
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,879
Speaker 3: maybe the fight I've loved covering more than any other fight.

1921
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: I've ever had.

1922
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 3: So what do I say, Lamont Peterson, excuse me, Lamont Peterson,

1923
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 3: him and his brother Anthony, Lamont Peterson taking on a

1924
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 3: Mere Khan.

1925
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: The I gotta tell you, so excited to not just

1926
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: have a home game, have a home game right in

1927
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: the center of the city.

1928
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. I mean you had Gary Russell

1929
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 2: Junior fighting there in ox and Maryland. But to be

1930
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: in the city to have the stakes, you know, yeah,

1931
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: you got to go back almost like the Riddick bow days,

1932
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: to back when there were really big fights in DC.

1933
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 2: And the fighter you mentioned unfortunately at the MGM National

1934
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Harbor in twenty nineteen that passed away, that was Maxim Dadashev.

1935
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: So we want to get that right, and you know,

1936
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 2: tragic and horrible situation. But yeah, Luke, it's BC and DC.

1937
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 2: It's Tank picking out another city and let's see if

1938
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: you can go in there like he's been able to

1939
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 2: do one by one and you know, bring the hype,

1940
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: sell the place out, you know, do a big box

1941
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 2: office and get so much of that celebrity clientele ring side.

1942
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 2: But if there's been some rumors that like maybe Boots

1943
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 2: Ennis could be on this card in a very interesting matchup.

1944
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: So if they can add that, you know, in sweeten

1945
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: the pot on the pay per view, we'll see what

1946
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 2: happens with that. This would be a very fun night.

1947
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: I'm excited to be on the ground. Can get Can

1948
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 2: we get Jacob in the bullpen with the doc cams?

1949
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean, BC and DC is a thing, Luke, Right.

1950
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 1: It should be.

1951
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 3: And I'll just say this, you know, I don't I

1952
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 3: don't speak for the local boxing community, but based on

1953
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 3: the read that I'm getting, I'll use a little bit

1954
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 3: of DC lingo DC. Even though Tank is a Baltimore guy,

1955
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 3: DC gets sised for Tank Davis. Make no mistake about it.

1956
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: They're going to show up big time for this one,

1957
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 3: all right. BC topic number four. Don't have a whole

1958
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:16,799
Speaker 3: lot to say about it, but I do like the idea.

1959
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 3: I wanted to pitch it to you if it's from

1960
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 3: Arnold Allen, but I don't mind it all right, So

1961
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 3: Arnold Allen wants to fight with Max Holloway. Max Holloway,

1962
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 3: of course, had that terrible loss at UFC two seventy

1963
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 3: six to Volkanowski, who we now have anointed as the

1964
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: pound for pound best fighter in the sports, certainly also

1965
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 3: since Kamara Usman had lost. Here's what he said about

1966
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 3: missing out on an interim title fight. He said, my

1967
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 3: whole career has kind of been like this. It's been

1968
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 3: a blessing in disguise, and my goal is never to

1969
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 3: be an interim champion. I want to be the full

1970
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 3: on champion. So it would have been nice to be

1971
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 3: in a part of that, but yeah, I always work

1972
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 3: for something better. And then he says, of course, who

1973
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 3: he wants to fight. He says, a lot of people

1974
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 3: are saying Max is the fight to make. That would

1975
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 3: be a fun one. I don't see why not. And

1976
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 3: also I think a win over him would be a

1977
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 3: bigger statement. And then you throw your interim in the

1978
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 3: bin right, b See, we know the interim is going

1979
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: to be on the fight on the per card between

1980
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 3: Emmett and Rodriguez, which I'm all in favor of. So

1981
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 3: you can't have another interium belt if you're gonna find

1982
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 3: a fight for Max and you're gonna find a fight

1983
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 3: for Arnold Allen.

1984
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: I love putting those two together. Here's the thing.

1985
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 3: Everyone says, Max, you're gonna one fifty five maybe eventually.

1986
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's in immediately a very good

1987
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 3: call or even long term out if it's a very

1988
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 3: good call even though he's a huge one forty five,

1989
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 3: or do you like Arnold Allen's idea?

1990
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: I do, because this is the only thing remaining in

1991
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 2: this way class like that. That's like as good of

1992
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 2: a title shot for him. He's one twelve in a row,

1993
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: Arnold Allen, So you can either wait around and hope

1994
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: your number gets pulled soon. Although that interim title that

1995
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: got booked there makes things even harder. This is the

1996
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: closest way to get a lot of attention and prove yourself.

1997
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 2: And if Max decides to do this and sort of

1998
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: it announces and you know, in terms of my perspective

1999
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: as him going back under and going for another run

2000
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 2: at the belt, which is I think Max is at

2001
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 2: an interesting crossroads given how one sided that loss was. Granted,

2002
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 2: it did come against the pouf pound king and the

2003
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: champion in Volkanovski, but in a series that was noted

2004
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 2: for how close and disputed it was. It ain't nothing

2005
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: disputed about that. So Max, I think had has a

2006
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 2: lot of questions right now. Do you take a lot

2007
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: of time off, do you walk away from the game,

2008
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 2: do you reinvent yourself at one fifty five? Or do

2009
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: you go back to the drawing board and do what

2010
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 2: you do? This is that if he picks Arnold Allen,

2011
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 2: that's telling us the answer of where he's going. And

2012
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 2: it ain't easy test at all, But uh, it'd be

2013
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: probably Max's best opportunity to get right back in there

2014
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 2: and improve it against the next best guy available that

2015
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: he still got it. So it'd be a lot of

2016
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 2: intrigue here, Luke, and I don't know. I want to

2017
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 2: say I'm fearful for Max. It's like, okay, one bad

2018
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 2: night at the you know, one bad night at the office,

2019
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 2: but we're just not used to seeing him get bloodied

2020
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 2: and battered, right just not used to batter like he got,

2021
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: I mean, even against it, even against where you felt

2022
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 2: like for most.

2023
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 1: Of that right, several times in that fight.

2024
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 2: Right, So, even though in most of that fight I

2025
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: felt like Max can't win this, like he's at a

2026
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 2: dis you know, he's if he can't knock out Pooria,

2027
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,879
Speaker 2: he can't win this, he still would just make surges

2028
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 2: that You're like, holy shit, right, dude, was that life

2029
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 2: was not in him against Vulk? I am afraid. I'm afraid, Luke,

2030
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm afraid.

2031
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 3: I'm afraid to I thought that last fight against Vulk.

2032
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 3: The thing that you know, again, I always say this, like.

2033
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: Who you're cheering for, who you're not cheering for?

2034
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 3: You always I think the fairest thing you can do is,

2035
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 3: no matter who you like or dislike, you got to

2036
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 3: cheer for a fair outcome. That's it, just a fair outcome.

2037
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 3: And you got a fair outcome in that fight UFC

2038
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 3: two seventy six, and Volkanovsky was just better, and he

2039
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 3: was better by a lot. And that if you're a

2040
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 3: Max fan or someone like me who likes Max a lot,

2041
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 3: you know that's a hard thing to watch and a

2042
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 3: hard thing to accept. But it is the truth. That's

2043
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 3: just what happened. And so one of the questions we

2044
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 3: had leading into that week BC when we sat down

2045
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 3: with him, was, you know, man, what about all the

2046
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 3: damage He took a lot more even in that fight.

2047
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 3: You know, So it's a real question of like, he's

2048
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 3: a young guy numerically, but the miles are starting to

2049
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 3: add up, and Arnold Allen looks to be the best

2050
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 3: he's ever been. He's sitting at four, Max is still

2051
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 3: sitting at number one in terms of the rankings. Of course,

2052
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 3: you might say, well, okay, but before that, look what

2053
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 3: Max did to Calvin Cater. Is there some version of

2054
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 3: that still available? We don't know the answer. I guess

2055
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 3: we're gonna find out.

2056
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: But for all these reasons that you've articulated, now me,

2057
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: it is a good fight. It's a great fight, and

2058
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: I would love to see it if they can make it.

2059
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I do believe that.

2060
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: Hey, Luke, I know we already filmed our holiday mail bag,

2061
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 2: and we thank all the viewers who responded to our

2062
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 2: tweet or emailed us to our email address. We just

2063
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 2: got a like a last minute one though, from our boss,

2064
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 2: Brian Daily of Showtime, who we love and respect and

2065
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: big fans. He tweeted back at my offering a couple

2066
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 2: of days ago, you know, soliciting viewer questions, and his

2067
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: question is, would Luke consider a MK live show at

2068
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 2: the Newark Penn Station. Is there like an inside joke

2069
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: in there, Luke? I mean, you know you love that place.

2070
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 2: You love that.

2071
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 3: Place, dude, the Newark train station. I cannot overstate this.

2072
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 3: It's just it's as close to Calcutta as you're gonna get.

2073
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really.

2074
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 2: It's third world on your ass.

2075
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just horrendous. I mean, if you're not being

2076
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 3: screamed at by homeless people or watching cops tasee someone,

2077
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 3: you are still watching a fistfight out front between you know,

2078
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 3: parents and children, or you know some other kind of

2079
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 3: just sight of urban blight. And we've talked about the

2080
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 3: fact that the New York City train station, the old

2081
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,080
Speaker 3: one Penn Station, was terrible, and that's true. I saw

2082
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 3: I saw a homeless guy shaving his pubic hair in

2083
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 3: the sink at one of those places. If you can

2084
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 3: really wrap your head around that, that's a fun, little

2085
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 3: fucking moment.

2086
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,959
Speaker 1: I told you that story, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2087
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 3: And if you've ever been to like Tokyo, dude, Like

2088
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 3: you could eat off the floor of the subways in Tokyo,

2089
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 3: Like you cannot imagine how clean they are.

2090
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: I can only.

2091
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 3: Imagine what like Japanese tourists see when they come to

2092
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 3: the United States are like, holy fucking shit, there's a

2093
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 3: homeless man shaving his balls in the sink at the

2094
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 3: at the public bathroom.

2095
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: Dude. Newark train station is worse than that. It is

2096
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: worse than that.

2097
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 3: I have to spend time there as all the time

2098
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 3: because that's what I have to get off to go.

2099
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 2: That's the sacrifice you make, Luke.

2100
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesus dude, if we did a show from there,

2101
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 3: we would leave that show with ebola, COVID, influenza, and

2102
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 3: then diseases they don't even have named they don't have

2103
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 3: names for them ships yet, and you would have them

2104
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 3: bro all in one go.

2105
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: Wow wow. Yeah, I'd be willing to do a live

2106
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: show there, Luke. Yet, the energy.

2107
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 3: I've been I've taken there. I've been to all the

2108
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 3: train stations between here and Boston, I've been. I've been

2109
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 3: to all of them. Philly's train station on Thirtieth Street,

2110
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 3: it's pretty nice. It's not so bad, right, it's pretty good. Actually, uh,

2111
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,600
Speaker 3: Union stations used to be better here in DC. But

2112
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 3: it's way better than any of those ones. The new

2113
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 3: the new train station in New York called the Moynihan

2114
01:32:56,200 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Station is actually like really nice. They completely redid it

2115
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 3: and it's so great. That's across the street from MSG.

2116
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 3: But like dude, up and down, there's a lot of

2117
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 3: shitty ones, and among the major ones the Newark train station.

2118
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 1: Holy fucked.

2119
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 3: If you are looking to get communicable diseases, boy do

2120
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 3: I have the place for you.

2121
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

2122
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 2: Look for some people that that's just you know, that's

2123
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 2: their state, that's their home, that's their train that's their

2124
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 2: factory town. Okay, that's their train station.

2125
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 3: That's just how it is, all right, Yeah, yeah, those

2126
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 3: people aren't going anywhere in life, all right.

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Speaker 2: You're going on and trained in nowhere. Okay, yes, yes,

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01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 2: I trained at.

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01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:36,799
Speaker 1: DEVN on a train from Newark. That's going fucking nowhere,

2130
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: all right.

2131
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 2: Okay, what if we win You know that there's like

2132
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 2: another award out there. We haven't almost one maybe yet.

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01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 2: Look I think it's they do it. That one in

2134
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Vegas that we won last year.

2135
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: We did the Documentary Awards. Yeah we don't. I think the.

2136
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 2: Awards ceremony is in December, and thank you to everyone

2137
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 2: who voted for us. And hopefully Aaron Bronstad, a Front

2138
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 2: of the program, can win, and hopefully we can win

2139
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 2: and all that stuff.

2140
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: Whatever.

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01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens if we win that though, remember

2142
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 2: the last time we like promised to pe if we

2143
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 2: win that, we'll give you a live show in Vegas

2144
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 2: fail Mark readers, Brod cab Well, I mean we were

2145
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: all there, it happened. What do we give the people

2146
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,759
Speaker 2: if we win again? I mean the Newark train station

2147
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 2: idea is decent for a live show, but uh, I

2148
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:14,839
Speaker 2: don't know. What do we do then? Do we go global?

2149
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 2: Do we we have to go international? Do we have to?

2150
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: Like?

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01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 3: The thing is, dude, we can't do a show in

2152
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 3: the Newark train station because we'd have to set fire

2153
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 3: to all the gear afterwards to properly clean it.

2154
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:25,640
Speaker 1: So I don't want to do that.

2155
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: What about what about Intro? We are a global brand, right,

2156
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: what about maybe Australia? I mean I don't go to

2157
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: the UK.

2158
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 1: We'll say about New.

2159
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 3: Delhi, New Delhi MK and New Delhi, India So that's again, dude,

2160
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 3: traveling to the other side of the world takes too long.

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01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: Fuck all that. But the UK is only six to

2162
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: seven hours away from DC or JFK, so you can

2163
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: do that. I do. Do you know what I really

2164
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: want to go?

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01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 3: Because I think I'm telling you I've said this before Wales,

2166
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 3: I've been, I've been all over Europe. I've been all

2167
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 3: over Europe. This is not debatable, although I will say

2168
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 3: there are other nice people that are that are pretty close.

2169
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 3: But do the nicest people in Europe are the Irish?

2170
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 3: The nicest I mean, just not even and especially compared

2171
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 3: to you know, I like the Brits. The Brits are great,

2172
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 3: but the Irish they are nicer. They're just nicer.

2173
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: So imagine if we did then then all my Welshmen

2174
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 2: can come see me. Mike Owens media from Liverpool could

2175
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 2: hang out with us. We could we could. Oh Gareth Davis, dude,

2176
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 2: we could be swinging.

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01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: Well, he would have to sit outside. I mean he's

2178
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: a little weird.

2179
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 2: Alright. I don't know. Look, I don't know how long this,

2180
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 2: this this run that we're on is gonna last. But

2181
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,799
Speaker 2: everything we touch is gold, all right. I got gold walls.

2182
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: Look okay, it's fantastic.

2183
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 3: They're just clanging, all right. See Last, but not least,

2184
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 3: we do have some weekend boxing.

2185
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 1: Stuff to get to.

2186
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be quick, no worries.

2187
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 3: The three biggest fights that we have, as you mentioned before,

2188
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 3: Rugaru was back, Regis Progra taking on Joses of Paida.

2189
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: That's fun. That'll be on pay per view, which is.

2190
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well can we start there before you?

2191
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: I just want to get I just want to get

2192
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: the big names out. Then we'll go.

2193
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Why don't we go one by one?

2194
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get.

2195
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 3: I don't because this is because I am hosting and

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01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 3: I would like to do it. Also, we create very

2197
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 3: quickly on a separate card on his own do you

2198
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 3: have Billion White and Jermaine Franklin. And then on ESPN

2199
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 3: plus Zach Parker taking on John Ryder getting back to

2200
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 3: pro Gray versus Cepeida BC. It is on pay per view,

2201
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 3: But I gotta tell you of the other main events,

2202
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:15,759
Speaker 3: I like this one the best.

2203
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 2: There is a great fight. The problem is that it

2204
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 2: is gonna be on independent pay per view and nobody's

2205
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 2: gonna buy it. And I'm sorry to say that out loud.

2206
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 2: But it's true. This is for a vacant one hundred

2207
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:28,759
Speaker 2: and forty pound title that was stripped from Josh Taylor,

2208
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: and this will be the second chance Regis Progre gets

2209
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 2: to fight for the title. He fought Josh Taylor three

2210
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 2: years ago in the World Boxing Super Series tournament to

2211
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 2: unify belts and it was, you know, one of the

2212
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 2: fights of the year, one of the best fights of

2213
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 2: this era, to be really fair, in just a twelve

2214
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 2: round war that felt like an old school classic. He's back,

2215
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 2: but he wasn't even supposed to be here. This was

2216
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 2: supposed to be Jose Ramirez, the former champion at one

2217
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 2: forty unified who lost to Josh Taylor in that big Summit.

2218
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 2: He was supposed to rematch Jose Cepeda. Rameraz decided instead

2219
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:59,640
Speaker 2: he was gonna get married. Regis Progray was the perfect

2220
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 2: substitution for this, because this fight's gonna be fire absolutely.

2221
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: Jose's paid a couple of years ago and tiavan Brandtchick

2222
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 2: was in one of the craziest, best, most violent, most

2223
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 2: ridiculous fights we've ever seen. I was there when he

2224
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 2: thought Jose Ramiris for the belt the first time, and

2225
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 2: I thought he beat him close fight in Fresno, California.

2226
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 2: These two were back and with their styles. Regius program's

2227
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 2: not getting any older a younger. We love him, but

2228
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna be too old too soon. You know, his

2229
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 2: career has just not gone the way you thought it

2230
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 2: would be in terms of who he signed with and

2231
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 2: the opportunities he's got. But he's got this opportunity. The

2232
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 2: only potential problem distribution wise is the purse bid was

2233
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 2: won by Marv Nation and some other promoter you never

2234
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 2: heard of. And you know, some people say, is this

2235
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 2: just Kinahan, you know in Probellum doing a secret job here.

2236
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know who's paying for this,

2237
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 2: but I don't think anybody's gonna buy it. And I'd

2238
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 2: like this fight a lot, a real lot. I don't

2239
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 2: even know if our show's live anymore. Luca, can you

2240
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 2: even hear me anymore?

2241
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 1: I can hear you? Just fine? Yeah, all right? How

2242
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: about the Dillion White Jermaine Franklin card on de z Owne?

2243
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 1: Do you like that?

2244
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay, So that's a Dezwned fight in London.

2245
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 2: It's it could be the Who's coming or going in

2246
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 2: the crossroads fight of this heavyweight division. We know who

2247
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 2: Dillion White was, and you know, can he one day

2248
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 2: get that AJ rematch which is his like probably last

2249
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 2: big money fight available ifought Tyson Fury got knocked the

2250
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 2: hell out in front of a giant crowd. I tend

2251
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 2: to think White's going in the wrong direction here. Jermaine Franklin, though,

2252
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 2: is somewhat interesting from I think Detroit. He's twenty one

2253
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 2: and zher with fourteen KOs and hasn't beaten anybody close

2254
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 2: to Dillion White's level. You know, I beat Jerry Forrest

2255
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,440
Speaker 2: by split decision, that's the level he was at. He's good?

2256
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 2: Is he great? I don't know. He beats Dillion White though,

2257
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 2: This is a you know, this is a he's a

2258
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: good announcement in terms of the direction he's headed and

2259
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 2: whether he's a title player. Well you get action, Yeah,

2260
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 2: you'll probably get action. Look, it's probably be a good fight.

2261
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: So there you go. That's what you got.

2262
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 1: And then last but not least in London.

2263
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 3: Also also in London's same day on ESPN Plus, Zach

2264
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 3: Parker taking on John Ryder.

2265
01:38:58,680 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: Should we care?

2266
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 2: Oh you can't see me right now.

2267
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: Luke, I can't I can see you. I can see you.

2268
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 2: I can't see anybody in my stream.

2269
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 3: You're doing the karate chop? Should we care about Zach

2270
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:12,799
Speaker 3: Parker versus John Ryder?

2271
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,360
Speaker 2: No, I'm doing the karate chop, which you're thinking, Oh,

2272
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 2: you're being racist, skin. No, I'm telling you sometimes I'm

2273
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 2: just not interested. I'm not interested in this fight.

2274
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, there you going good? All right.

2275
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 3: As a reminder, everyone, we're getting closer to the end

2276
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,680
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2277
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,280
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2279
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Speaker 3: A few weeks back, we decided we're going to start

2280
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 3: spotlighting undercard fighters who aren't getting the recognition they deserve.

2281
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,400
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01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:42,719
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2283
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,519
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2284
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 3: mind and deserve to be rewarded for it. Go to

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Speaker 3: moneylon dot com slash Morning Combat to learn more and

2286
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Speaker 3: how to enter.

2287
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Speaker 2: We see, yeah, Luke, I can't see the feed right now,

2288
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 2: and our and our set.

2289
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 3: Up, here's where we're up against Now we're supposed to

2290
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 3: do fan subs, but we actually b C and I

2291
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,880
Speaker 3: cannot see the return feed, so we actually cannot see

2292
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 3: the screen at the present moment. So we have a

2293
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 3: couple of options BC. One we can just say fuck

2294
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 3: it and punt, which.

2295
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to do, yeah.

2296
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 3: Or two actually I guess three options Two we can

2297
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 3: wait for them to come out.

2298
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 2: They're working on it. We got the hold on one

2299
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 2: minute from the Great Gaffney Jim Pierre over there.

2300
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 1: We waiting for them to fix it very quickly. What

2301
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 1: is your Thanksgiving Day plans? Now?

2302
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 3: Your parents live in Florida, you obviously live in Connecticut.

2303
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 1: Are you all getting together house? It's gonna work.

2304
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm on on my father's side. We go to Uncle

2305
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 2: Tony's house and Naugatok, Connecticut. Shout out to Uncle Tony Campbell,

2306
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 2: a pillar of that community, Luke. And you know it's

2307
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 2: gonna be the the closest approximation to what Thanksgiving was

2308
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 2: like growing up for me. Going to my grandmother's, my Mima,

2309
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 2: and you know, we're gonna have the meat pie. We're

2310
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 2: gonna probably be upset that Nauga took lost Antonia. Hopefully

2311
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 2: not this year though, Lucas. We're coming on and then

2312
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,679
Speaker 2: we're gonna play the Backyard Bowl and it's gonna be intense,

2313
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be always, always willing to put relationships

2314
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 2: on the line during games like that, Luke, because that's

2315
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 2: the family way, that's how we roll. So that's what

2316
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 2: I'll do. And you know, video game tournaments, a lot

2317
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 2: of chocolate cream pie. It's it's the best holiday because

2318
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 2: I get to hang out with the best people in

2319
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: some of my favorite family members. And you know, you're

2320
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 2: doing the three f's, okay, and you can add the

2321
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:22,759
Speaker 2: fourth F this this year with football, which is four

2322
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,599
Speaker 2: World Cup games going up against three NFL games, going

2323
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 2: up against cousin, video game tournaments, backyard football. This is

2324
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,600
Speaker 2: what Thanksgiving is all about.

2325
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 1: Dude. I'm gonna have to fight them to put anything

2326
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: on every ting.

2327
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 2: So describe where you're gonna be, who's gonna be there,

2328
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 2: and what the setting will be.

2329
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 3: So Uncle Pepe is in Colombia. He is down there

2330
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 3: seeing his family.

2331
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 2: Do you think to interrupt you to say, do you

2332
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 2: think he does more damage south of the South America

2333
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:55,480
Speaker 2: or in South Florida.

2334
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 3: No, he definitely does way more damage in South America.

2335
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 3: I'm just way more not even not even a contest.

2336
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he mostly he mostly does.

2337
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 3: Like business in Miami in terms of like like genuinely

2338
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 3: doing work.

2339
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:07,799
Speaker 1: He doesn't.

2340
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 3: It's not it's not really a place for play down there.

2341
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 3: But in South America. Fuck, get out of town, bro,

2342
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 3: it's i mean just shooting fish in a barrel down there.

2343
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: BC.

2344
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 3: Okay, so he's out, but it'll be me, my wife,

2345
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 3: my daughter Violetta. Then it'll be my mother in law,

2346
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 3: who's wonderful as well. And OLA's gonna be there. And

2347
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 3: my wife's cousin is going to be here. She's from

2348
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 3: Colombia as well. She's splut in English. It'll be great.

2349
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 3: So it's all five of us heading down to Fredericksburg, Virginia. Whoa,

2350
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 3: and my brother. We're gonna go to his house. His

2351
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,719
Speaker 3: wife is pregnant. I'm going to be an uncle in January.

2352
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 3: I'm very excited about that.

2353
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. But more important, Tooky's going to be a cousin, Luke.

2354
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 3: That's right, Tuk, He's gonna have a cousin, Tuke. He's

2355
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 3: gonna have a cousin. So and then my dad will

2356
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 3: be there. My dad turned eighty two yesterday. We had

2357
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,600
Speaker 3: a nice call with him, and my sister will be

2358
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 3: there as well.

2359
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 1: I believe that is it.

2360
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 3: There may be another guest or two who comes around,

2361
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 3: but not on my side, per se.

2362
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 2: Would you is it fair for me to say this

2363
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,680
Speaker 2: or just ignorant and rude? Thatchuki actually may have a

2364
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: lot of cousins in South America. She doesn't know because

2365
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 2: of Uncle Pete. You know, Metro killed defeet. All right,

2366
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 2: that's great, we were almost bad.

2367
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's a great question.

2368
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 1: It's very hard for me to answer that.

2369
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 2: Ye.

2370
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:23,160
Speaker 1: Yes, as my.

2371
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,839
Speaker 3: Family apparently turns on lawnmowers just outside my door.

2372
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: Which is, oh yeah, that'll not to do. Could they could?

2373
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 1: They wonder if they could be louder? You know what

2374
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just be louder.

2375
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 2: No. I hope you guys have a great time. And

2376
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 2: I love that that. You know, you're mixing people from

2377
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 2: both sides of the family, and you know what, well,

2378
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 2: will Luke Keito get everything you're looking for? Menu wise,

2379
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 2: food wise? Are going to get it all? Yeah?

2380
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing.

2381
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 3: On Thanksgiving, dude, I just I said I think I

2382
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 3: said this on my life chat yesterday.

2383
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 1: I just can't complain BC.

2384
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah again, My brother and my sister had a restaurant

2385
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 3: for over ten years.

2386
01:43:57,200 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: It did well.

2387
01:43:57,760 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 3: They just hated the business, so they sold all their

2388
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,759
Speaker 3: shit in March of twenty twenty before the pandemic. Really,

2389
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 3: you know, got into high gear and uh, they don't

2390
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 3: regret it. But the reality is they can both cook their.

2391
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,839
Speaker 2: Ass off and that's amazing.

2392
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 3: So every time, and by the way, my brother's sister,

2393
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:15,679
Speaker 3: Sorry what am I saying?

2394
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: My brother's wife is.

2395
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:24,879
Speaker 3: An amazing pastry chef, right, so dude on yeah, exactly,

2396
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 3: So on the savory or the sweet end, I don't

2397
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 3: have to do much or complain about much.

2398
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 1: That's that's the reality.

2399
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 2: Will you vape in their house?

2400
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 3: Like an absolute ten billion person, I'd vape in their

2401
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 3: fucking face, much less in their house. I mean, what

2402
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 3: do You'll vape right in the back of the turkey?

2403
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 2: Will you blow it right into the turkey? Look, that's

2404
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 2: why I want you to get you see, what.

2405
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Are they gonna do? Not like me?

2406
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 2: They've spent forty two years now liking you.

2407
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: This has been a time honored tradition.

2408
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I got two important questions. One involved

2409
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 2: you talking your brother into doing a ke zoom interview

2410
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 2: with me about like your life growing up and all that,

2411
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 2: or coming on room service diaries if he's willing. And

2412
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 2: two would be will they ask you at all about

2413
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,759
Speaker 2: Morning Combat and like, did you guys win that award?

2414
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 2: Or hey, I saw that documentary? Will there be any

2415
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 2: of that?

2416
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 3: No, there won't be one question about it. NONI don't.

2417
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they even know the name of the show.

2418
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, what about if Abuela, who's trying to just make

2419
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: sure everybody gets along in front of them, was like, Lukito,

2420
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 2: did you tell them about the awards and all that?

2421
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 3: I mean, they make as possible that is possible. That's

2422
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 3: something like that could definitely happen. But short of that, No,

2423
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 3: there won't be. There won't be Like when I it

2424
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 3: sounds like I'm doing a bit because I always do,

2425
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 3: like exaggerated talk or whatever, but I'm telling you the truth.

2426
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 3: There won't be one. There won't be one question. Now,

2427
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 3: hold on, we got to get to business here because

2428
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 3: they're trying to set it up so we can see

2429
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 3: their return feed and we're having a bit of an issue.

2430
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 3: Here's another solution if they want, Because I know what

2431
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 3: the folks can see looks good. What we can't see

2432
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 3: what you're seeing? They could just email us all of

2433
01:45:57,920 --> 01:45:59,679
Speaker 3: the now, like no, they're back.

2434
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 1: How about.

2435
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 2: mL dot com every week, let's get let's get your

2436
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 2: fan submissions, subs, fan subs, horse, We've got mail.

2437
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:14,560
Speaker 1: Let's see if it holds.

2438
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,600
Speaker 2: Viewers. Okay, this from Michael Fellow. Donks, it's Mike K

2439
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 2: from Danbury, Connecticut again. And on last Monday Show, BC

2440
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 2: asked Aaron Bronstatter what he thinks about the rise of

2441
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 2: Ta share Mma, and ab so accurately stated the fighters

2442
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 2: there can focus entirely on training. There can't be too

2443
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 2: many distractions in Danbury, CT. He's not wrong. So here

2444
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,640
Speaker 2: I am out of state visiting Charleston, South Carolina with

2445
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 2: my fiance and I couldn't help but think of you guys.

2446
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 2: When we sat down for dinner at the Mexican Japanese

2447
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 2: Fusion Restaurant, and there on the wall was an original

2448
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 2: print of the Mayweather McGregor poster. There's a lot going

2449
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 2: on in this picture. Can we blow this up?

2450
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: All right?

2451
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 2: Luke? First of all, there's this is a Mexican Japanese fusion.

2452
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 2: What kind of is that? Is that unheard of?

2453
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

2454
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 3: They can I've seen a few of these before. It's

2455
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 3: they've got at amama and sushi in the tacos. But

2456
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 3: you be surprised they work together pretty well.

2457
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 2: Also, Michael's doing very well. Also, I don't see the

2458
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 2: McGregor Mayweather.

2459
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 3: In the far right corner or sorry no, sorry, in

2460
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 3: the corner of the room. But like there's there's literally

2461
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 3: arrows around.

2462
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh, there's literally the point. That's the one over my head, Luke,

2463
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 2: this one. Oh, okay, I see it now, I see

2464
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 2: that art. Okay, there it is, there, it is. It's

2465
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,879
Speaker 2: a great poster, Luke. I'll tell you that. He closes

2466
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 2: my saying, shout out to the best damn combat sports

2467
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 2: podcast around, Luke. You might not feel like MK has

2468
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:40,400
Speaker 2: hit its groove yet with the RSDs, but I think

2469
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,519
Speaker 2: I speak for the Donk Nation when I say the

2470
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 2: content outside the regularly schedule program has been excellent, from

2471
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 2: shining a light on important figures entertaining in the industry

2472
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 2: like Lori Senko and Fabiano Busque, to having real talk

2473
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 2: with fighters like Sean Brady and Mighty Mouse. No one

2474
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 2: does it like MK. Stay washed, never stop vapor and

2475
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 2: keep putting out that divorced dad energy. Thank you, Michael,

2476
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 2: you get us, Yeah, thank you, But we plan on

2477
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 2: staying married, thank you very much. All right, unless our

2478
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 2: wives start watching the show. Let's go over to Steve be.

2479
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 2: Please disregard my turkey neck and child bearing hips, but

2480
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 2: your boy Steve B is out here repping MK in

2481
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 2: the Donk Army at Belachoor two eighty eight in Chicago.

2482
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,520
Speaker 2: Holler if you hear me, yes.

2483
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 3: Right, yes, this is the last face you see before

2484
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 3: you get stuffed in the trunk of a car.

2485
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 2: Is that our Halloween merch? I don't think I've ever

2486
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:36,320
Speaker 2: seen that shirt before, have you?

2487
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure what it is.

2488
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 2: All right, Steve Bee, has you know he has a

2489
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean he may have at least been accused of

2490
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,520
Speaker 2: a fellon at one point, right, maybe not convicted.

2491
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, this dude has definitely gotten away with crimes.

2492
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate you though, Steve B. Thank you very much.

2493
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 2: Let's go do at McClean training. And here's a meme.

2494
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 2: They got a meme, We got memes.

2495
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 3: Oh God, pay attention to BC and respond accordingly. Ignore

2496
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 3: everything he says up the same point and dude once again,

2497
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 3: once again, the vaping has been an absolute gift to

2498
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 3: the show, so that you guys could roast the ever

2499
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 3: living fuck out of me like a Thanksgiving turkey.

2500
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 1: Yes, all right.

2501
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 2: John also has a meme. I don't know where this

2502
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 2: guy's from or John who, but dear John, he's got

2503
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 2: a meme. Let's see it.

2504
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 1: Pay attention to b C or draws there it is, guys,

2505
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,640
Speaker 1: He's just hard to listen to. It really is.

2506
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 2: We have a Michael sliding and he says BC maybe

2507
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 2: the clon Prince of CT, but Luke is the emperor

2508
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 2: of DC. Dubt. Let's see how well BC knows his

2509
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 2: partner in Old Washed White Crime, name that Luke. All right,

2510
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 2: this is a game. Yeah, wow, Luke.

2511
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: Can we try to matche that Luke?

2512
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 2: Can we match them with the picture shared Number one

2513
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 2: is viewing Valerie Lreeda's instagram yep yep two after hitting

2514
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 2: the new BBL flavored vape pen YEP three a after

2515
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 2: a fistful of Delta eight gummies, Wow Wow. Four after

2516
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 2: the gummies a forty ounce of malt licker and mistakenly

2517
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:21,839
Speaker 2: believing he is on his commode. Fair or five future

2518
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 2: Luke watching BC get sent to the land of winning

2519
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 2: ghosts during a You want to Champion our Room Service Diaries,

2520
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 2: Which Luke is it in that picture?

2521
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 1: I gotta go with, uh, boy, that's definitely number one.

2522
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with three after finishing a.

2523
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: Full what does that say that one? Actually? You know

2524
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: what the reality is a few of these work. A

2525
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: few of these work?

2526
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 2: Because can we full screen that one more time?

2527
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 1: Please?

2528
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 2: What does that say? A full? Uh? A fistful of dela?

2529
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 2: Because Luke, there has been once or twice in our

2530
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 2: show's history when we were about to film something and

2531
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,919
Speaker 2: you looked over at me and we made eye contact,

2532
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, no, he's he's he's way

2533
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 2: too far gone, Like I've seen that face.

2534
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 3: Before, this happened before. But I got a you need

2535
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 3: to tell the truth to the audience. This is way

2536
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 3: more an issue with you than it is with me.

2537
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. I cannot confirm that, Luke. But

2538
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 2: I have definitely have.

2539
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: Had times where I'm like, dude, why am I sweating? Yeah?

2540
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 1: And shitting my pants? I don't understand, but.

2541
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,799
Speaker 3: More commonly, I just see you staring off into the distance,

2542
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:29,439
Speaker 3: you know the thing, and all I can see in

2543
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 3: your head is Lisa needs braces dental plan.

2544
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Tyler, He says, what's up? Luke

2545
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 2: and BC in the whole MK crew had a blast

2546
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 2: catching two eighty eight Belator with my beautiful girlfriend here

2547
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:44,640
Speaker 2: in our hometown of Chicago. Had some awesome seats and

2548
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 2: it was cool to see legends like Javier Mendez and

2549
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 2: Fador in the corner as their fighters got the win.

2550
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 2: Here's a pick of me rocking the og MK shirt,

2551
01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 2: and like BC at ten am Eastern, I also had

2552
01:51:55,960 --> 01:52:00,640
Speaker 2: a large amount of THC in my system. I am

2553
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 2: also in the process of converting my girlfriend into a

2554
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 2: full time MK fan, but have only had luck so

2555
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,600
Speaker 2: far with her cat Suki, who's in the video that

2556
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 2: we're going to play in a second. At least the

2557
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 2: cat has in question why I'm watching to wash dads

2558
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:17,640
Speaker 2: discuss predatory loans and grooming their disgusting genitalia. Keep up

2559
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 2: the great work. It's Tyler Luke. First of all, can

2560
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 2: we zoom in? What's your thoughts on his beard?

2561
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 1: Right there?

2562
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back one second.

2563
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't really talk shit. Mine's uncamped, but

2564
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 3: his is terrible.

2565
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he trim it up.

2566
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 2: He seems to have very good taste in women. So

2567
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 2: hopefully his beautiful wife can be her girlfriend. I'm sorry,

2568
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 2: I can one day not only become his wife, but

2569
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 2: can become an MK don because we do welcome female viewers.

2570
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 2: We just don't have many of them.

2571
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 1: That's just we don't have a whole lot, but welcome.

2572
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 2: So his cat, his girlfriend's cat is named Suki. Let's

2573
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 2: play this video.

2574
01:52:49,040 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 4: Let's see a guy, Luke, I don't play that video?

2575
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 1: Do we really just do that?

2576
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if there was supposed to be audio

2577
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 2: with that, and we just didn't hear it. But he

2578
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 2: looked as interested in MK as everyone at this Thanksgiving table.

2579
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna see tomorrow, Luke, come in seriously.

2580
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 1: Right fact fact?

2581
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Thank you Tyler for taking

2582
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 2: us with you on your life's journey. We're MK. We're

2583
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 2: here to stay every single day. JP you know him

2584
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 2: from Mount You, Nike, Nova, Scotia. Good day MK crew

2585
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 2: and fans and Brian B. D. Campbell's live chat has

2586
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 2: been announced. Let's go. Time for BC to get paid.

2587
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 2: Love you guys, keep up the amazing award winning show

2588
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 2: super Fan for Life. It's Jay Piquette, Luke. This is

2589
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 2: the logo he wants me to use for my soon

2590
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 2: to debut maybe next week BD chat.

2591
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you kind of change the shirt. The shirt sucks.

2592
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Thank you j Piqett for

2593
01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 2: your service. As always, I do wonder if that guy

2594
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 2: has a social life outside of us, Luke, but I'm welcome.

2595
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 2: He can welcome anytime in our fam, our weird family.

2596
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, he lives on the lake. It looks

2597
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: beautiful if we do MK in your house. We're going

2598
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 2: on to a JP's house. Danger Mouse, remember him. He

2599
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 2: believes he's up for this award, he says, Hi, BC,

2600
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm back with my usual trio of torments to amuse

2601
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 2: and abuse you. I've got two classic memes in some art,

2602
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,559
Speaker 2: all from recent interviews. Let's start by calling out your

2603
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 2: hypocrisy when it comes to physical content. I mean not

2604
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 2: that I blame you, who wouldn't rather hug Laura than

2605
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 2: the hairy watermelon vape smelling ape besides you? But if

2606
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 2: I see it. I'm calling you out, BC, I mean,

2607
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 2: is this really a conversation piece here?

2608
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: You know what it is? True? You don't like to

2609
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 1: touch me, and BC, I need your touch.

2610
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you do make it weird very quickly. I

2611
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 2: just right off the start. Okay, so yeah, you know,

2612
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 2: not like not like Gareth A. Davis weird, like that

2613
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 2: guy's put his hands down my pants and I'm like,

2614
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what that transaction.

2615
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I'm not committed sex crimes.

2616
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 2: But okay, okay, Warlock, I don't know where that was headed. Okay,

2617
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 2: but uh, I mean this is a transaction in that

2618
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 2: meme that everyone understands.

2619
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it means you're, you know, ring ring the

2620
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 3: bell for the you know, for the horny alarm.

2621
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 2: It's I mean, she's gonna smell a lot better than

2622
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 2: hugging you that close, Luke, Hugging you will be like

2623
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 2: in Fight Club when they had hug meat loafo. You've

2624
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 2: never seen that, have you.

2625
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 3: I've never seen that. I mean I've seen I know

2626
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. He had you know, he was

2627
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 3: just a giant, gross, fat piece.

2628
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 2: Of Yeah, he had he had beat It's Luke, But

2629
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 2: all right, let's go over to A and not peacup.

2630
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 2: But you get my point, and Danger Mouse says, uh,

2631
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 2: what is this? The hell is this? He says finally

2632
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 2: one from the Izzy interview and his idea what the

2633
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 2: show was called? Oh and if you want to know

2634
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 2: why you're short and Lucas tall, I used a fantasy

2635
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 2: island photo just because I thought it was funny. So Luke,

2636
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 2: remember when h is he called us combat corner?

2637
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 1: Oh?

2638
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that's Danger Mouse's Uh.

2639
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if the top is the top is

2640
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: cut off. I can't quite see the top.

2641
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, can we blow that thing out? Is there more

2642
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 2: to show?

2643
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: No, it looks like we can't. All right for some reason?

2644
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 3: All right, well that eat a back of Dick's gummies

2645
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:18,880
Speaker 3: is nice and fun.

2646
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go. There is Margarita or uh yeah.

2647
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 3: By the way, by the way, look at the live

2648
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 3: boxing screen next to me, it's Godzilla versus Butterbean.

2649
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were doing a dissected on that. That's great.

2650
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 2: H Jay Piquetts back from Mount Uniac. Good day, Top

2651
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 2: gun Combat with Luke and BC. Let's go love you guys,

2652
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 2: keep up the amazing award winning show. What's this top?

2653
01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 1: Gun combat vaping once again.

2654
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm telling you, what a gift? What a gift?

2655
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 2: Like?

2656
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I like the logo. The logo looks sharp.

2657
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would consider. Imagine if you're just

2658
01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 2: blowing up the K in that with those wings next

2659
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 2: to it. I like that a lot. Hey, somebody get

2660
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 2: imagine if JP and r J just start working together

2661
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 2: on designs all the time, you know'd be great. Maybe

2662
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 2: you should unleash J.

2663
01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 1: Should have we got a cut of the merch Man,

2664
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah we should.

2665
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 2: We should renegotiate that for twenty twenty three.

2666
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 1: What do you think. I think it's a good idea.

2667
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well we have Finally Alan w has

2668
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 2: three of them. In episode three seventy five, Luke was

2669
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 2: quite vexed and lugubrious from My Fans emission where BC

2670
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 2: was portrayed as the heath Ledger joker.

2671
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 1: This is this is, this is a problem.

2672
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 2: And he felt his portrayal in the art piece as

2673
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 2: a negative. To make amends, here's the Redux version of

2674
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 2: MK and the Batman Universe.

2675
01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:43,000
Speaker 1: What does it say over my forehead?

2676
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 2: Damaged?

2677
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 1: A Yeah, that's fair. I don't like I gotta say

2678
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: you're still not hot.

2679
01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't like anything anything to do

2680
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 2: with this at all. All right, Luke vaked vape God Thomas,

2681
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 2: You've been a good sport. Not really. But here is

2682
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 2: a Dia delos Morto's inspired logo that I made from

2683
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 2: you for you, you old wash bastard.

2684
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 1: I love it. It's a little similar to the Terminator

2685
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 1: one we already have, but uh, it is cool and

2686
01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 1: I do like it.

2687
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 2: I feel like we say Alan W's name a lot

2688
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 2: on the show, but I don't know anything about him.

2689
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 1: I bet Je chul Google.

2690
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a jan six. He also says this is

2691
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 2: an homage to Luke's propensity to constantly suck on that

2692
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 2: robofallis to get his.

2693
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: I didn't have it one time today of nicotine.

2694
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 2: While conducting Morning Combat, one of the lost paintings from

2695
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 2: Belgian surrealist Renee margrete Le, Phil Dave Pouter translated the

2696
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 2: son of Vape. Now, if we could, if we could

2697
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 2: put that that art piece and a frame on our

2698
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 2: MK set and jersey.

2699
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:49,960
Speaker 3: You're gonna tell you if that one is actually one

2700
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 3: of the better ones I've seen.

2701
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's awesome. So I don't know who needs

2702
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 2: to hear this on our MK staff, but if that

2703
01:58:57,480 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 2: poster can be up when we go back next week,

2704
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 2: that'd be dude.

2705
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 3: Find any like, find any piece of like incredible artwork

2706
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 3: like the Sistine Chapel where you know God is reaching

2707
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 3: out and instead if he's instead of reaching out to touch,

2708
01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 3: he's just handing over.

2709
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 1: A vape, you know, tip to tip on the yeah,

2710
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: yeah or whatever. And then we could just make sure

2711
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 1: it's off of all of that. We could really we could.

2712
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 2: We could kill Morning Combat at gmail dot com is

2713
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 2: your home for this the dead wrongs on Friday, And

2714
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 2: you know you could just email Mikey and just talk

2715
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:27,000
Speaker 2: to him, probably Mikey more Mile there at CBS Sports.

2716
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 2: He's a great guy. You know, he's a protector of

2717
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 2: the brand. He is.

2718
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 3: I want to remind everyone we are going to be

2719
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 3: off for Friday, but the content does not stop. We're

2720
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:38,320
Speaker 3: gonna have a Friday E mail bag edition for you.

2721
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 3: So I just want to say something about Thanksgiving real quickly.

2722
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 3: I say this every year, we set it on I

2723
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 3: think Monday. I'm going to say it one more time, please, folks.

2724
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 3: I know everyone's going to be traveling I know everyone's

2725
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of stress, a lot of

2726
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:50,520
Speaker 3: family time, a lot of good times, but a lot

2727
01:59:50,520 --> 01:59:53,320
Speaker 3: of you know, a lot of moving around.

2728
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Please don't drink and drive. There is no need.

2729
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 3: Put the Uber app on your phone, put the Lift

2730
01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 3: app on your phone, do whatever you got to do

2731
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:02,360
Speaker 3: ahead of time to get yourself in and out of

2732
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:04,760
Speaker 3: these places you're going to go to without any incident.

2733
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Don't drink and drive.

2734
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:09,120
Speaker 2: It's just not worth it and we have too many

2735
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:13,680
Speaker 2: reasons and resources for it not to happen. So thank

2736
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 2: you very much. Luke. You know what I'm interviewing in

2737
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:19,839
Speaker 2: a couple hours. Who Tyson Fury?

2738
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh for real? Yeah, let's see what happens, all right.

2739
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 3: Are you gonna do? Is he gonna do to you

2740
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 3: what he did at true? Jordie, did you see that?

2741
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:28,600
Speaker 2: I did see that?

2742
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah yeah. If you if you don't ask him

2743
02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: tough questions like that, you're a bitch. Yeah yeah I am.

2744
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 1: I am.

2745
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:37,200
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. It's my big rematch from me

2746
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 2: when he hung up on me last time when I

2747
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 2: asked about his dad removing that guy's eyeball that time.

2748
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:42,800
Speaker 1: Luke, I mean, I think it's a fair question, right,

2749
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 1: It is a fair question.

2750
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 3: A reminder, as always, showtime dot Com is the label

2751
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 3: that pays. You can go to show Time dot Com

2752
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 3: get a thirty day free trophy like you can keep it.

2753
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 3: If not, you can bounce reminder of Black Friday any day,

2754
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 3: but certainly on Black Friday morning. Coombat dot Store for

2755
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 3: all of your merch needs. Please give us a look there.

2756
02:00:57,480 --> 02:00:59,480
Speaker 1: If you're in the market, I'm telling you, I'm telling

2757
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 1: you his bomber.

2758
02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 3: Jackets are legit. Go have a gander at one of those.

2759
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 3: Black Friday is gonna be a good opportunity for you,

2760
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 3: plus mugs, hats and everything else in between.

2761
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 2: BC.

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Speaker 1: Any final thoughts before we're out for the week.

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Speaker 2: Uh, please check out our recent room service diaries with

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Speaker 2: Lora Senko Anthony Smith. I've got a very cool interview

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Speaker 2: with Rainier de Ritter, who's going to be headlining the

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Speaker 2: December tecond One on Amazon return the two division champion Luke.

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Speaker 2: He said he can beat out of Sonya and Poeton

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Speaker 2: on the same night.

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Speaker 1: That's a little much, but he is very very very

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Speaker 1: very good.

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Speaker 2: Now he's cool. He's a cool interview too. I like

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Speaker 2: his demeanor as well, So yeah, you know that's an

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Speaker 2: extra bonus content. Friday, eleven am Eastern, in place of

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Speaker 2: our normal episode, we filmed the Fun mail Bag. I

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Speaker 2: think you're going to enjoy that a lot. Ninety minutes

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Speaker 2: of good times, whether you're setting up the Christmas tree

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Speaker 2: this weekend, catching up with old friends, you know, watching

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Speaker 2: the sports with the family, and unbuttoning that top button,

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Speaker 2: enjoy yourselves, enjoy it, focus on what you have in

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Speaker 2: the moment, and enjoy it. Look, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to live in the present.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this because I've been this guy too.

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Speaker 3: I remember the first year I moved to New York City,

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Speaker 3: I didn't have enough money to go home for Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: so I had to spend it by myself. So for

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Speaker 3: all the folks out there who can't travel, who have

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Speaker 3: to work, or who have to stay home or whatever,

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Speaker 3: we hear you.

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Speaker 1: I see you. I've been there.

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Speaker 3: I've been the guy who ordered Taco bell on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: And I gotta tell you nothing wrong with that either

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Speaker 3: man's that's doing it up right in your own way too.

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Speaker 3: So I shouts to all those good folks just the same, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And thank you to our great thing. For Thanksgiving. We

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Speaker 2: got a great staff and team across multiple companies, CBS

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Speaker 2: Sports Showtime, Malka, gaff Pierre on The Ones and TWOESA

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Speaker 2: Today we thank you all very much for being you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what a show, What a time to be alive, Count

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Speaker 2: your blessings, hug your awards as we often do shirtless.

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Speaker 3: Thank you all right for Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 3: as well as CBS Sports Showtime and the Malka staff.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you all so much. Happy Thanksgiving. Don't drink

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Speaker 3: and dry until next time. May all your gains be

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Speaker 3: loyal