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Speaker 2: Folks. Hello, Welcome to the Therapy Gecko Podcast. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: another introduction that I haven't planned. I just hit the

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Speaker 2: just say the truth, all right, You say what you're

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Speaker 2: I have a very very special returning guest to the

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Speaker 2: Therapy Gecko Podcast. It is my wonderful sister Chloe, who

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Speaker 2: has donned her very own Therapy Gecko suit and will

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Speaker 2: be assisting me in the first half of this podcast

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Speaker 2: in listening to callers problems, giving them some advice, giving

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Speaker 2: out to my sister, who was really awesome during this episode.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed having her on and we had a

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Speaker 2: lot of really good calls. Something about when I have

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Speaker 2: maybe I'll start having more guests on the stream. If

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Speaker 2: you have any suggestions for that, by the way, or

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Speaker 2: can hit me up, send me an email. I am

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Speaker 2: at Lyle Forever and Ever at gmail dot com. That

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Speaker 2: I actually have a lot of time on my hands. Actually,

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Speaker 2: all right, as always, you can call the Gecko every Monday,

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Speaker 2: twitch dot tv slash Lyle forever. And actually I am

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Speaker 2: considering switching my streaming schedule up. I'm thinking about moving

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, what's your problem? What's up? Help?

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Speaker 2: So you know what our clar Are you ready? You

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Speaker 2: Yet'll take some calls. If you've got problems, hit us up.

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Speaker 2: You know, Chloe is older than me. She's wiser than me.

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Speaker 3: That's what I said yesterday, and she said.

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Speaker 4: Paul from Mars.

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Speaker 3: Mars, Mars, Hi, Mars. Is that your name?

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Speaker 5: It's short for something else, but I really like Mars.

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Speaker 5: I think it's cool.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's like the the planet.

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Speaker 2: Is it short for not the not to you know,

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Speaker 5: Oh, my gosh, that names sounds terrific.

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Speaker 3: Why wow, your name is Marissa?

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Speaker 6: Put in the chat that your name is Marissa, because

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Speaker 3: So that's cool, Mars, what's your problem?

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Speaker 5: I'm having an issue like emotionally connecting with my ten year.

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Speaker 2: We could be how old are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm twenty three.

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Speaker 2: What do you what's the problem?

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Speaker 6: What did you like to do when you were ten?

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Speaker 5: I think it's oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Like, well, you said play video games and like so

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Speaker 5: I've told her that I would make an account, but

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Speaker 3: That is me and she's only ten. She doesn't really

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Speaker 6: Put you on blast. You're kind of part of the problem.

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Speaker 6: You can't try to relate to her with something she

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Speaker 2: Well, well on the other side, look, Mars, I think

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I think honest, I.

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Speaker 2: Think maybe you're you're prepared. Look, there's undeniably there's trolls

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Speaker 2: and maybe you're just sort of like puffing her up.

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Speaker 2: At least she's being trolled by someone she loves, you know,

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Speaker 5: Like she's ruthless on the internet. Like I've like seen

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Speaker 2: She'd appreciate what have you observed about the way that

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Speaker 5: She likes to be edgy or she tries to be edgy,

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Speaker 5: which is pretty much just like homophobic on the basis, Oh,

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Speaker 8: But she's at that age.

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Speaker 5: Where like they would like the schools would teach kids

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Speaker 2: Wow, really, schools are teaching kids about internet etiquette.

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Speaker 3: And now it doesn't surprise me though. I Mean when

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Speaker 5: That's what I have learned. I mean, like I'm from

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Speaker 6: Yeah, when it comes to being edgy and seeing edginess

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Speaker 6: as being homophobic and racist, you know what, this is

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Speaker 6: actually a great opportunity for you to bond with your

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Speaker 3: Loving in the world.

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Speaker 6: Because energy put out into the worldst energy you get back,

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Speaker 6: and she's putting out that energy.

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Speaker 3: She's not gonna get that back. I'll tell you that now.

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Speaker 2: I find that interesting that she's a troll because like

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Speaker 5: I can't say that because I was one of.

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Speaker 12: Those little girls.

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Speaker 2: It runs in the family. Do you think she learned

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Speaker 5: I think she's learned a lot from me, but all

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Speaker 5: the wrong things.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So your problem, so you were so you're the problem.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you could bond over being trolls.

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Speaker 5: I'm the toxic one.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I love talking with your sister.

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Speaker 6: You know what, You both you take you take this

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Speaker 3: Internet class together some.

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Speaker 2: Sort of like there's got to be like a trolls

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Speaker 2: anonymous thing that you guys could attend together to like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with my brother on this one.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mars, listen, good luck to your sister, good luck

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Speaker 2: to you, and I hope that you eventually find Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 6: No, I hope that you find happiness and love in

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Speaker 6: whatever secular way you you feel.

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Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: By Mars.

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Speaker 2: Paul from Hello, my name is Hello, my name is Wow.

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Speaker 12: Really, holy Ship.

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Speaker 2: I know, Holy You weren't expecting to be us to answer,

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Speaker 10: No, not at all. I'm actively watching the streams. I'm

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Speaker 10: hearing you twice. It's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: You turn turn the stream off.

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Speaker 3: Turn the stream off.

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Speaker 2: It's going to help you out. Conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, put it on, put it on mute.

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Speaker 12: Yeah it's muted.

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Speaker 10: It's mute.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool?

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Speaker 3: And what's your name? We didn't really get that part.

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Speaker 10: Oh really, I'm sorry. My name is Caleb. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Cut Caleb?

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Speaker 10: How you doing doing well? Happy to be part of

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Speaker 10: the stream. I have a problem.

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Speaker 2: What's your problem?

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Speaker 3: What's your problem? You're ready?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? So I like this girl could have been and

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Speaker 10: I know that she likes me as well, but she's

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Speaker 10: very adminant about labels, and I'm not about that. I

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Speaker 10: just feel as though they were.

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Speaker 2: Hmm okay, interesting label does she is she looking for?

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Speaker 2: She she wants you to go. She wants a boy

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Speaker 2: friend capital B Facebook official boyfriend.

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Speaker 10: Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's that's my thing. I'm like, we're together,

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Speaker 10: So there's what's the issue?

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Speaker 6: isn't issue. It seems like this is something she really

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Speaker 6: if you really liked her like you say you do.

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Speaker 3: Then who gives the funk about saying that you're her boyfriend?

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Speaker 2: It's important to her.

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Speaker 10: So what I said was, I don't really care. So

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Speaker 10: if it's super important to you, we can do it.

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Speaker 10: Well, she kind of got offended. That I didn't care

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Speaker 6: How romantic is it that he's like, I don't really

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Speaker 3: Why is she specifically upset?

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Speaker 10: She's specifically upset because I won't put this label on us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean I'm saying I'm sorry. That was

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Speaker 10: Her response was just kind of like, well, if it's

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think there's anything Look, there's nothing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree with that.

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Speaker 12: What are you say?

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Speaker 3: What you say?

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Speaker 10: Everything else is is great. It's just this one issue.

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Speaker 6: Life is all about I mean not life is all

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Speaker 3: Like, what are you just not going well?

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Speaker 2: Are you will well? How much are you willing to

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Speaker 10: But we haven't been talking for that Laune, So I

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Speaker 10: We know that we're together, we know that we're not

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 6: I think also labels create security and make people feel safe.

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Speaker 6: And so it's not necessarily because she's like, I want

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Speaker 3: Like, that's a that's.

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Speaker 6: A security that you guys are in this together fully, wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 3: It's the last hurdle.

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Speaker 2: Right, and that security might not be important to you,

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Speaker 2: I think you can't like force yourself to care about labels.

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Speaker 2: But I think that the fact that you're compromising and

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't force yourself to I want to.

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Speaker 10: I'll be like, hey, maybe this is a good idea,

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Speaker 6: I agree, but I think that you should go into

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Speaker 3: But you should be enthusiastic about it. Do you want

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Speaker 3: to know why?

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Speaker 6: Because you seem to really like her and this is

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Speaker 6: like that's going to make her happy, And because you

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Speaker 10: Agree. I wouldn't call if I didn't, I wouldn't make

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I agree, I agree fully with

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Speaker 2: you can get excited about making her making her happy

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Speaker 6: You know what, maybe once you actually put the labels

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Speaker 10: I'll enjoy it more than than not. Yeah, sure, all right, guys,

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Speaker 10: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Cale, You're so welcome. You have a great

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Speaker 2: Thank you man, you have a good night, have a

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Speaker 2: good night.

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Speaker 3: Let us know. He was updated, Caleb, he was sweet,

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Speaker 6: I forgot about I did wrang on him at the beginning,

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Speaker 6: but I under I think that I mean, maybe it's

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Speaker 3: A woman's perspective difference.

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Speaker 2: I never I don't think that people should ever feel

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Speaker 6: I agree, But I just think that the labels thing

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Speaker 6: is a cop like I don't like labels like that's

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Speaker 6: some people.

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Speaker 3: What do I mean you don't like labels like? Labels

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Speaker 2: But you just you just said the idea of the

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Speaker 3: It's not it's not. I don't think security and permanence

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Speaker 2: It's true.

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Speaker 6: I think that they're different things. I think that there's

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Speaker 6: I have a cute laugh things. I think my life

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Speaker 6: the field still.

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Speaker 2: Right, And that's.

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Speaker 6: Saying But I think that the concept of being like

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Speaker 6: I don't like labels, fine, but like, also labels exist, guys.

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Speaker 3: We're not changing society boyfriend's girlfriends.

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Speaker 2: But look good, there are girls that like. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's a gender thing. Like, if you're a guy

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Speaker 6: I mean, sure, of course, it's hard to.

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Speaker 3: Find girls gaze them.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's hard to find the partner that you

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Speaker 2: are fully one in every single area of everything compatible with.

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Speaker 2: But if you can get to ninety percent, compromise on

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree all from Abby, Abby, Abby?

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Speaker 3: Hello, someone someone.

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Speaker 2: Said, no, Lyle's annoying.

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Abby? How you doing?

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Speaker 14: Hie?

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Speaker 11: So I'm here with my brother right now, and I

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Speaker 11: have put a waxing strip on my arms, and.

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Speaker 3: I need to give a waxing strip a waxing strip, Okay, okay, So.

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Speaker 9: I now that is on.

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Speaker 14: I'm like, there's to take it off.

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Speaker 2: You're you're gonna take it off right now?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? Yeah, I'm scared.

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Speaker 15: Like, that's the thing is I put it on, and

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Speaker 15: now I know.

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Speaker 12: It's gonna hurt.

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Speaker 2: Your brother's gonna take Your brother's taking it off for you.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of trust in your brother.

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Speaker 12: I know.

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Speaker 10: Myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Can we talk to Tanner real quick?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Put Tanner on?

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Speaker 10: Hey, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Tanner?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Zach Argetty, Hey, I gotta follow that. I know.

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Speaker 6: Sorry anyway, Uh, Tanner, why why are you guys doing this?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 10: She wanted me to do this?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, would you let you? Would you let me

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Speaker 2: wax your arm? I don't think I would want to.

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Speaker 2: I think if you asked me to, I would say, now.

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Speaker 3: So rip it off right now?

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Speaker 14: All right?

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Speaker 3: Wait, let's do it right now. I don't countdown, We'll

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Speaker 3: do a countdown all right?

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Speaker 10: All right?

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait, we're doing a countdown right now?

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Speaker 13: Three?

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Speaker 3: I was to do three, okay, three? Two?

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Speaker 6: One?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 3: So how was it? What's the aim? From one to

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Speaker 2: Not that bad.

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Speaker 6: Why are you acting the rest of your arm now?

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Speaker 3: Because you really have to?

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Speaker 14: No, I don't even know.

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Speaker 12: Why did I just put it on? And then I

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Speaker 2: What do you mean you don't know?

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Speaker 9: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why did you just do it for fun?

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Speaker 10: I guess so. I guess I wanted to know what

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Speaker 10: it felt like.

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Speaker 6: You knows one part of your arm?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what a masochist is?

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Speaker 10: I do?

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Speaker 12: That's not it?

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Speaker 2: No, you don't consider it's not.

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Speaker 6: A masochist doesn't have to be a sexual thing.

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Speaker 3: It can just be like you, just like pain.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I know, but like I'm not a massacres Another.

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Speaker 2: Wait, it sounds like Tanner had a different opinion on that.

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Speaker 6: Tanner, what do you think?

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Speaker 10: I don't know. I don't think it god enough to

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Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, Tanner says that he wants to inflect more

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Speaker 2: pain upon you.

453
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 3: What kind of waxing strip?

454
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 6: Is this?

455
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 10: What?

456
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 6: We'll just buy it at Target? Oh my gosh, go

457
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 6: put some lotion on. I'm scared for you.

458
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 12: A would they bad?

459
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: I have no idea. You called in on the right

460
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 2: night for skincare ship.

461
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just I don't know.

462
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 6: I've never waxed my arm with Sally Hanson wax strips before,

463
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 6: but I can't imagine that.

464
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 3: Do you eat eep?

465
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 10: Deep?

466
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 6: Is all I gotta say. But listen, I'm glad that

467
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 6: it's over and you're done.

468
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: Do you guys feel like this experience has bonded you

469
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: two together in any way?

470
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 3: That's a question.

471
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 10: I think so.

472
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 16: I think so we're already pretty close, but we definitely

473
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 16: are closer.

474
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: Now, what do you think, Tanner?

475
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 17: Hold on, Tannah, what do you think left was over?

476
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 10: Yes?

477
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: The answer is no.

478
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 10: Yes, Yes, we are.

479
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 14: We're bonded.

480
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: You're bonded for life.

481
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 2: That's good. How would you, Tanner, how would you describe

482
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: your relationship with your sister?

483
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 12: Uh? I don't know.

484
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 8: Strong?

485
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: What did you say?

486
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: Drunk?

487
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 8: Strong?

488
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: Strong?

489
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: Strong?

490
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: Okay, all right?

491
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: Strong?

492
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: That that's a good verse verb. That's something. But you

493
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: like inflicting pain upon her?

494
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: Oh? So she's a massachist in your city.

495
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 6: So this is kind of a perfect relationship in terms

496
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Speaker 6: of being siblings.

497
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so.

498
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: Well, Uh, Abby, do you guys have fun with that.

499
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 3: You have fun being a sada kiss masochist or married

500
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: or married not.

501
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: You guys have a great rest, and I thank you Tanner.

502
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 10: Yeah you to thank you.

503
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: Okay, bye.

504
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 12: Call from Danielle.

505
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: Danielle.

506
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up dude, Danielle?

507
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 11: Oh my god. Hello, this is about the hundred eightieth.

508
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: Time I try to call, well persistence pays off off.

509
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 15: So I have a bit of a problem that's been

510
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 15: on my mind.

511
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: Give me one second. Can you guys hear Danielle.

512
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 15: I'm watching the stream and I can't see anyone commentation.

513
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: You're not on like okay, all right, we're getting. Yes, sorry,

514
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,479
Speaker 2: we're getting I don't know if you're on like speaker

515
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: or anything.

516
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 15: Okay, take it off speaker.

517
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: There we go.

518
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, much better, much better. How are you doing, Danielle?

519
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,239
Speaker 12: Awesome?

520
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: Well tell us the problem?

521
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 15: Okay, So just like a little bit of a trigger warning.

522
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 15: This might be a little heavy.

523
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's letsten, let'sten. I want daniel daniel.

524
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 9: I got, let you know.

525
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: I gotta let you know.

526
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 15: Okay, So first.

527
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: Before before you even tell us what this is, have

528
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: you whatever this is, if you talk to about it

529
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: with a real therapist yes, I.

530
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 15: Went to therapy about it for a year.

531
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I don't tell you what we think.

532
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 15: Okay, I just don't talk to people about it. And like,

533
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 15: I really at her out there.

534
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's got out there, are running it.

535
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: You said, face your fears, So we're facing Okay, I'll

536
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: tell you. I'll take this one.

537
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 15: So basically, I was dating this guy and we were

538
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 15: in like such a nice relationship, you know, all happy,

539
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 15: and then one day he says, you know what, you're

540
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 15: not doing all that much for me and wakes up

541
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 15: with me. And then a couple of months go by,

542
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 15: he like, we just lose all communication. And then I

543
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 15: check on Facebook and I find out that he actually

544
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 15: passed away through his.

545
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 10: Yeah no, it's fine.

546
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 15: I I'm over anyways. So yeah, I found that that

547
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 15: he passed away and stuff, and now it's just like,

548
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 15: oh my god, is it my fault?

549
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 12: Like what?

550
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 15: And I know it probably isn't, but I just feel like,

551
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 15: crap about it?

552
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: Before we say anything, what has your therapist told you

553
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: about this?

554
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 15: So she told me that because of how much time

555
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 15: that we spent like a part, it most definitely isn't.

556
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 15: But the thing about it is I have the problem

557
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 15: of overthinking so much that makes me think that it.

558
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 17: Is my fault.

559
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: Here's what I have to say on the situation. Don't

560
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: give yourself that much power because in reality, you.

561
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 6: Know, I don't know all the circumstances obviously, but you know,

562
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 6: you're never if somebody is in pain, is in a situation,

563
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 6: there's a lot of reasons why they could be in

564
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 6: that situation, and there's probably not one, there's probably two, three,

565
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 6: four or five thousand, and to say that someone died

566
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 6: because of you, you're giving yourself a lot of power

567
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 6: that you don't deserve on any end, because you shouldn't

568
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 6: feel guilty about something that you shouldn't be giving yourself

569
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 6: power over something that probably definitely one hundred percent isn't

570
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 6: your fault. So if you got yourself some slack on that,

571
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 6: I think the feels ultimately in the long run.

572
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 18: Yeah, And like I agree, there's not that I'm qualified

573
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 18: to speak on anything else. W Yeah, yes, there's there's

574
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 18: just there's far too many infinite, unknowable variables for.

575
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: You to want to go with it.

576
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 15: That was actually the best advice I've heard so far,

577
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 15: because I don't really talk to my friends about it.

578
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 15: I don't really talk to family about it because they

579
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 15: usually just say, oh, since iry for less, and I'm like, bro,

580
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 15: like that's not what I want to hear. I just

581
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 15: want to hear like it's okay, or I want you

582
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 15: to not in like a rude way they laugh about it,

583
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 15: you know, Like I just I want some kind of sympathy.

584
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: With Claus said, there's there's there's I mean like there's

585
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 2: there's just infinite unknowable reasons about why a person you

586
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: know would would do that. And you know you can't

587
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: just you can't just pick one and and and run

588
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: with it, you know.

589
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't give yourself all this power. Let

590
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: let it. If you if you let go, you're gonna

591
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: feel a lot better.

592
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 6: And obviously letting go is a lot easier said than done,

593
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 6: but you know, yeah, I I just think that there's

594
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 6: an infinite amount of reasons that somebody might be in

595
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 6: the situation they are.

596
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 15: And yeah, I've been working on letting go for like

597
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 15: about the past year, and I think I'm reaching a

598
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 15: point where like it's starting to get easier to talk

599
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 15: about it, and I'm really glad that I thought it.

600
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

601
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 15: Also I wanted to say, Colorado is in fact a

602
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 15: country I can speak yeah from experience.

603
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Nothing.

604
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 15: Yeah, And Denver is a goat city. Thank you guys

605
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 15: so much for complimenting my HOMETOWNP.

606
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 6: Course, so well, we're big Denver fans over here. I've

607
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 6: never been to Denver.

608
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: It's Denver. Denver is a cool place. A couple of

609
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: years ago, I drove there by myself.

610
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 18: Oh, you're right, Okay, I went to one of those.

611
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Fucking you can't like, you can't when you're in You

612
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: can't like buy weed and get high in a store,

613
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: but you can buy weed and bring it to a

614
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: place that doesn't sell weed, but you can get high

615
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: in there.

616
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 12: I was.

617
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: I stayed at this place called Hostile Cush. It was

618
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: so it's like if some it's like if your fucking

619
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: stone or friend turned his basement into a hotel. Shout

620
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: out the hostel cush. All right, sorry what you say?

621
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: Your name was? Danielle, Danielle, Danielle, Danielle. Thank you so

622
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: much for I appreciate it, and you know.

623
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: You feel I hope that you feel better soon.

624
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 15: I am thank you so much. I just needed to

625
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 15: like tell someone.

626
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: Of course, of course I got it. I'm with you

627
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: on that.

628
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: Rest of the night.

629
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 19: Night.

630
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 15: Thank you, good bye, Caul.

631
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: From Kristen Kristen Kristin, Hey, Kristin, Hello, how are you.

632
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 9: I'm good.

633
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 17: I didn't make up.

634
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: I didn't make fun of her. She said, hello. It

635
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: was the vine.

636
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 20: It was the vine.

637
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: I was her energy. Divine, it was divine.

638
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: She's just saying that the vine.

639
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 17: No, it was the vine reference like the app.

640
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 20: I'm pretty good.

641
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 17: I mean I've had a kind of rough last two weeks,

642
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 17: but like my last two days have been pretty good.

643
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: So what was good about the last two days.

644
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 17: Well, I got out of quarantine, like within the last

645
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 17: two days. Heck, yeah, so I'm immune. But it's just

646
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 17: I can't wait or I have to wait to get

647
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 17: the vaccine, which is.

648
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: Like, oh, do you have corona?

649
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 17: It's well I did, yeah, and like we have to

650
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 17: wait ninety days now because like the antibodies or something.

651
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 3: Oh wait, interesting, so you had the rona. So that's

652
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: why your last two weeks.

653
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 17: Sept Yeah, And like I'm in college and like I

654
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 17: had to stay in my room and I cannot like

655
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 17: do school work outside of my room.

656
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 9: So m hmm.

657
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: That's a tough that's a that's a problem.

658
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, going to being in college is I cannot imagine

659
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: being in college right now.

660
00:32:54,120 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 17: Yeahs oh god, Well, so I last year, I was

661
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 17: a freshman. I'm nineteen, so that you don't have to

662
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 17: worry about like age. But I was a freshman last year,

663
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 17: and half of my second semester was like taken away,

664
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 17: like I.

665
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 16: Had to go home.

666
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 17: But you're back now and and but but the thing

667
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 17: is I'm going to be a junior. Like a whole

668
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 17: year was taken away.

669
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 19: Yeah, and like the thing yeah, and the thing that's

670
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 19: like really like kind of shitty is that I haven't

671
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 19: even started taking the classes specifically for my major yet.

672
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: What's your major?

673
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 20: Uh?

674
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 17: Commercial photography?

675
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: You can major and commerce. You can major in commercial photography.

676
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you can.

677
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: Like specific I know that you can like go to

678
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: art school and like major and like photography.

679
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 6: So commercial phtography, Like you're going to be the person

680
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 6: that puts the glue on the big mac.

681
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: When you take a picture of it.

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Speaker 6: Well, well you're not going to be the person, but

683
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Speaker 6: I'm saying that you're going to be like the person

684
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Speaker 6: that like.

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Speaker 20: Like I set up set.

686
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Speaker 17: The whole like scene I'm in charge of like editing

687
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Speaker 17: the photos.

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Speaker 21: All that interesting that.

689
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: That's a very specifically specific.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well I so I did. Like I've helped people

691
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Speaker 17: that I know, like photograph weddings. I photograph of my

692
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 17: cousin's wedding. I actually like really enjoy.

693
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Speaker 2: Do you make tiktoks? Are you on photography TikTok?

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Speaker 10: No?

695
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Speaker 17: I'm not on photography TikTok but.

696
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Speaker 19: TikTok is where I am on which TikTok okay?

697
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Speaker 11: That is like on.

698
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Speaker 3: Which to talk?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, which TikTok?

700
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Speaker 17: I like, I don't really like follow like specific people.

701
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 17: I just kind of like scroll throughout the day I

702
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 17: was along. I was on taketak a lot when I

703
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 17: was in quarantine, and like that made me struggle with

704
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 17: doing my school works too.

705
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Speaker 6: Let me tell you there's nothing be on TikTok more.

706
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 6: That's my advice to every single person that.

707
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: How much how are you know? How how are you

708
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: in debt?

709
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 8: No?

710
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Speaker 17: I'm I'm pretty about my mind. I've gotten very lucky.

711
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: With like because I talk a lot. I want to

712
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: hear about like you know, And I went to school

713
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: for film and I was lucky enough not to graduate

714
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: with debt. But like, you know, I hate because I

715
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: have a lunch a lot of friends who like went

716
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: to film school with me, and like like they actively

717
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: can't pursue their creative endeavors or like move to LA

718
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: and moved here because they have that fucking student loan

719
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 2: payment of like that they could have learned on like YouTube.

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Speaker 20: Yeah no, I I My parents are like all about

721
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 20: investing and everything, and I completely understand it, and I

722
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 20: want to get to that point too, but like right now, I.

723
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Speaker 17: Just want to focus on graduating. That's like, that's just

724
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 17: where it's at right now.

725
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Speaker 2: Man, Well you'll get there, dude. What'd you say?

726
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 20: Your name?

727
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: Christ? Well, thank you so much for calling christ what's

728
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: your shout out? Your TikTok? Where everyone go follow christ?

729
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 8: It's all right.

730
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 6: When everybody everybody followed Christian and she becomes famous, photographer

731
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Speaker 6: will be there and in which TikTok?

732
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Speaker 3: Which talk?

733
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 6: Oh?

734
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, I want to get a tarot deck?

735
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: Oh I have one?

736
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: You have about that?

737
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 10: Good night?

738
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 4: Thanks bye bye, Paul from.

739
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 17: And and and whole and Chloe.

740
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 7: Hi, Hi you.

741
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Speaker 3: Anne, and you know what you are? My last call,

742
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: so first to night. So you've you've got to make a.

743
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Speaker 11: Good Wow, I'm so honored.

744
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: No no pressure.

745
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 11: Oh I know now I'm feeling the pressure.

746
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 3: What's your problem? And bless you?

747
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: Thank you?

748
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 11: Well how about this? I don't know what to do

749
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 11: with my life, like career wise.

750
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 12: Mm hmmm.

751
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: So what are you doing now I'm unemployed?

752
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: What were you doing before you were unemployed?

753
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 11: I was a graduate student and I got my doctorate

754
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 11: in ecology, evolution and conservation biology.

755
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Speaker 3: Wow you so do you want to do that? It's

756
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Speaker 3: like a real thing.

757
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 11: Well, I h I don't know how how qualified I

758
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Speaker 11: am for all, So I don't want to go into academia,

759
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 11: so like I don't want to be a professor. And

760
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 11: so then that like limits the other amount of jobs

761
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Speaker 11: that I want to do and the other jobs that

762
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Speaker 11: I want to do. It almost seems like I'm overqualified.

763
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Speaker 2: What what What are the jobs that you want to

764
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: do that you feel overqualified for?

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Speaker 11: Like I I just like want a nine to five

766
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Speaker 11: jobs like a.

767
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Speaker 2: Park ranger some something like that.

768
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah exactly, or like a lab tech or something

769
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 11: like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, why do you feel you're overqual But if those

771
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 3: are the jobs that you want, why do you.

772
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Speaker 6: Feel you're over are you getting rejected from them because

773
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Speaker 6: people think that you're ever qualified for them?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And I think a lot of times, like if

775
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 11: you have your if you have a higher education degree,

776
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 11: then they're thinking that it's like that you're gonna leave

777
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 11: right away, and like you're like, I'm never getting the

778
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 11: opportunity to I guess say that, Hey, I would actually

779
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 11: really love being in this position and it's not just

780
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 11: like a stepping stone.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that's good. I was when you said I'm overqualified.

782
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Speaker 2: I was an impression that you like felt like you

783
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: were being like judged for having jobs that you were overqualified,

784
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: or like you felt like self conscious about it.

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Speaker 6: You know what I really think it's what this might

786
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 6: be bad advice, But take it off your resume.

787
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Speaker 2: That's you know, that's not bad advice.

788
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Speaker 3: I mean take it off.

789
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 2: That's not that's not a terrible idea.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm sorry I cut you off. You were going

791
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Speaker 3: to say something.

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Speaker 11: I've already forgotten. I have like horrible a d D.

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Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think about the

794
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 2: idea of taking your doctorate off your resume?

795
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Speaker 11: Yeah, well then that's like seven years of experience that

796
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 11: I can't account for Oh, that's a good point.

797
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Speaker 2: Tell them. Tell them that you were living in the woods,

798
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Speaker 2: studying ecology first.

799
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Speaker 6: Hand, yeah, conservation, you were finding your own stuff. And

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Speaker 6: what I'm pushing, honestly, just be like, just keep applying

801
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 6: for these jobs that you want and keep doing.

802
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: Sound like our mom. Just keep applying. Not our mom's like,

803
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: hey mom.

804
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: Is that bad advice? Just keep applying on.

805
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying I never said this bad advice.

806
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Speaker 9: It's just.

807
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Speaker 11: Oh, I do know what I was gonna say, sorry.

808
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 3: To cut you. No, my god, please.

809
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Speaker 11: Well, so Lyle said like that he thought I thought

810
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 11: I was being judged for being overqualified, But it's actually

811
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 11: kind of like the reverse is that I think people

812
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 11: see me as a really qualified person and I'm almost

813
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 11: like not confident enough to apply to these things because

814
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Speaker 11: of getting a PhD, like in a very specific field.

815
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: But okay, So is it that you don't want these

816
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: jobs or that you're not or is it that you're

817
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: not confident that you couldn't handle these jobs because because

818
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: initially you said that you just didn't you just didn't

819
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Speaker 2: want these jobs that you felt like you were you

820
00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: were suited the quality suitedly qualified for yeah, well.

821
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Speaker 11: Like a lot of the normal track positions I feel

822
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 11: like that I am really qualified for, they're like few

823
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 11: and far between, and I don't really want to go

824
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 11: into that realm anyways because of the stress and like

825
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 11: it's not a very good work life balance.

826
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Speaker 2: Totally understandable. Yeah, yeah, I mean, don't succumb to the like,

827
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: you know, sunk cost fallacy or anything, right, the idea

828
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: the idea of like, you know, I'm gonna you know,

829
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to have wasted the past seven years

830
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: of my life, so let me go ahead and waste

831
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Speaker 2: forty more.

832
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Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, no, But then so then I'm like stuck

833
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 11: of trying to figure out what I actually do want

834
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 11: to do as well.

835
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Speaker 2: I know I brought up living in the woods as

836
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: a joke, but you could, like you ever thought that

837
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: it was, but like go, yeah, off the grid kind

838
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: of shit, you know, Like.

839
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 3: But she wants stability, she wants a nine to five.

840
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: It's fair, the loving goth.

841
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: The grad is not stable. Here's my advice.

842
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 6: Apply for things that are maybe a little bit more

843
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 6: when you look at the circle and you're applying for

844
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 6: things in the circle, apply for things like kind of

845
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 6: on the outside of the circle things that you may

846
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 6: look at a bridge initially and be like, I don't know,

847
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 6: but you know, life is life takes a lot of

848
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 6: twist and turns, and I actually recisently saw on.

849
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Speaker 3: TikTok of all places.

850
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 6: But good advice is that people who actually take a different,

851
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 6: a zig zaggy path are actually more of fulfilled than

852
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 6: people who just like take one path. So you might

853
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 6: get a job that you're like, maybe a little bit

854
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 6: like less than thrilled about or whatever, and then you'll

855
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 6: just continue to kind of zig and zag to get

856
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 6: to ultimately where you want to be.

857
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: You know, Like my first job out of college was.

858
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Speaker 6: You know, it was not what I wanted, but it

859
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 6: was a great experience and I learned a lot, and then.

860
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Speaker 3: I'm zigging and zagging to get to where I want

861
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Speaker 3: to be.

862
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 6: So I think that sometimes you have to like be

863
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 6: in a situation that maybe you're not one hundred percent

864
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 6: happy with to build to get to the point where

865
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 6: you are peak happy.

866
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Speaker 11: I agree with that, right, right, I will take that

867
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 11: to heart, and I will keep on applying and try

868
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 11: and look for some of those outer positions.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I don't know, I hope I answered

870
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Speaker 3: your question. Part of me thinks that I didn't. I

871
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: didn't really, but that's.

872
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Speaker 2: It's being a therapy gecko.

873
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Speaker 6: I hope that I answered a portion of I hope

874
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: I helped you at least two percent. That's all that

875
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Speaker 6: that's all if I got. If I helped you two percent,

876
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 6: then that makes me happy.

877
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Speaker 14: Yeah.

878
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 11: No, I think that you did a really great job

879
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 11: of recognizing or like reaffirming to me that it doesn't

880
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 11: have to be so serious and that I'm putting a

881
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 11: lot of weight on finding like the perfect career on

882
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 11: this first year kind of attempt, and and I think, yeah,

883
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Speaker 11: a zigzag pattern is fine.

884
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

885
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 6: I have a lot of friends who just graduated grad

886
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 6: school and they're kind of in the same boat as you.

887
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 3: And that was the advice that I gave them.

888
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: So how are they doing now?

889
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: Well, I gave them that advice yesterday.

890
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: Testimonial.

891
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 6: I give them that advice yesterday. So it hasn't panned

892
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 6: out yet, but I'll let you know if it does.

893
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 6: But yeah, just you're not going to get your dream Everybody,

894
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 6: everybody in the chat and everybody who's watching now and

895
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 6: you and you're not going to get your dream job

896
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 6: on the first try, you're just not and you know what,

897
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 6: it's better for you that you don't.

898
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: So apply for your dream job. See how it goes.

899
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 6: But apply fir just that you're like, I don't know

900
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Speaker 6: if I would like this, and zig zag to get

901
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Speaker 6: to where.

902
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: You want to be, because it's going to be more

903
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 3: enjoyable that way.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful.

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Speaker 16: Yes, it is well and and.

906
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 11: Thank you so much. Good You're welcome.

907
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for calling in Ann.

908
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, and thank you for taking me as your last

909
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 11: call Chloe. And on a one final note, I wanted

910
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 11: to tell Lyle that I love your choices for the

911
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 11: raids after your show is done, so.

912
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: Find the good one after this we got I feel

913
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: we have a bunch of people in here we can

914
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: blow someone. Shut up up right, all.

915
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 11: Right, have a good night, Thank you too, good night bye.

916
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: Last night, Chloe, Chloe and I we hung out with

917
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: our dada and our dad was telling us what was

918
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: the thing? He said, I don't know what you're talking.

919
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: That's great advice. I'll keep that in mind. He was

920
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: telling us like he was telling us like phrases. He

921
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: uses to like blow someone off when they tell him

922
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: something like what like if like if someone he said,

923
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: if someone's giving me advice I don't like, or that

924
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: not that I don't like, but that I'm like, I'm

925
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: going to that great advice. I'll let's see, that's great advice.

926
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: I'll think about that or something like that. Mine is

927
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: I'll put that on the list, which is not true.

928
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: I actually do. I'd say all the time, I'll put

929
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: them on the list, and I mean it, but I

930
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: think hers is. Uh, I'll tell I'll take that to heart.

931
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 3: You're probably right, and that's take it to heart. In reality.

932
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: It is a good thing to say. Though, if if

933
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: you know you want to blow someone off, I'll tell.

934
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: And someone tells you something you want.

935
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: You know what you can she can blow me off.

936
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: That's fine.

937
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm not saying she was. She wanted to perfectly genuine,

938
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: but I just wanted to add that to the.

939
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: List of things that you say to things that.

940
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: Could be a good person, good to good, be good

941
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: to serve.

942
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.

943
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: That's good, I say, yeah, I guess I'll put that

944
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: on the list. All right, folks, that was my sister.

945
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: Wonderful to have her on, would love to have her

946
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: back again. It's always a lot of fun. I know,

947
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: you know it's hard with COVID and everything, but it

948
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: is a lot of fun to have guests in the

949
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: studio with me. I feel like it gives it a

950
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: better energy, better collaboration vibes. So hopefully when the air

951
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: stops killing us, I'll be able to do that more. Yeah,

952
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 2: Chloe was great, and hey, I just wanted to pop

953
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: in real quick and let you guys know that if

954
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: you are enjoying the podcast that you are listening to

955
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: and you would like to support, I don't have any advertisements.

956
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going to try to sell you a gum

957
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: or anything yet. You know I might in the future,

958
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: but for now, no ads. It's supported. The whole operation

959
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: of therapy Gecko is supported entirely by the viewers, and

960
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: if you would like to support, you can head on

961
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: over to patreon dot com slash lyle forever. That's patreon

962
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: dot com slash l y l e f O R

963
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: e v e R and become a gek legend today

964
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: by pledging five dollars to the Lizard agenda and keeping

965
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: the stream going. And you can also support by picking

966
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 2: yourself up some officially branded therapy Gecko merchandise at www

967
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: dot therapy gecko dot com. Got new designs in the

968
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: works that I am very excited about. But it's hush hush,

969
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: so you will know when the time is right. But

970
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: for now, check out www dot therapy gecko dot com

971
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: for all of your Gecko clothing needs. Don't walk around

972
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: naked people, all right, Chloe. Segment has concluded, and I

973
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: am going to be taking some calls on my loansome

974
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: for the duration of this podcast. Let's get into the calls.

975
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 4: Baby, Ricky, Ricky, Oh shit, hello, Ricky, Hey, Ricky, hey

976
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 4: gg how you doing.

977
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: I'm all right, I'm chilling. What do you have to.

978
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 8: Just finished watching? Uh god Zilla versus Kong?

979
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: How was it?

980
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 12: It was very good.

981
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 10: I loved it.

982
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm a little biased on this, but I hope that

983
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: god Zilla wins.

984
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 8: Oh come on, no, I was rooting for Kong the

985
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 8: whole time.

986
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I'm biased.

987
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,479
Speaker 8: What's the guy related right?

988
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 19: What?

989
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 10: I'm sorry?

990
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: Oh shit, that was a different question. What's those two

991
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: fucking I cheated? Those two questions are very shimlark anyway,

992
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: what's your paradise, Ricky?

993
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 10: Mm hmm.

994
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,479
Speaker 8: My paradise would probably be just living well off?

995
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. What to find well off? To you?

996
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 12: Like?

997
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: Is well off? Is that a dollar amount? Is that

998
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: a depth of your personal relationships? What does it mean

999
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 2: for you to be well off?

1000
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 12: Well?

1001
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 8: For me, it's it's not just myself. I think also

1002
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 8: I'd like to take care of the people around me.

1003
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: Mm hm who strangers? Friends?

1004
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, actually all my friends. If I could take care

1005
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 8: of all of them.

1006
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 9: Be nice.

1007
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 8: M hmm, family, relatives, everybody. It's not really a dollar amount,

1008
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 8: but more just just living within our means.

1009
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: You know, you want to make sure that all of

1010
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: your friends and family are are have enough to live, right?

1011
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Do you ever?

1012
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: What?

1013
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 9: All?

1014
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 12: Right?

1015
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: But like, let's say that you may had a ton

1016
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: of money. Right, Let's say you like won the lottery,

1017
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't you? Would you ever be like afraid that being a

1018
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: provider to your friends changes the relationship a little bit?

1019
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: Like what if they start, you know, wanting, wanting more

1020
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: from you? What if they start viewing you more as

1021
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: a provider than a friend and that changes the relationship.

1022
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I'd be worried about that. I never

1023
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 8: thought of it that way, but I'd kind of hope

1024
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 8: that my friends would stay true and not become that.

1025
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 10: I guess.

1026
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: Tell me about your best friend. What are they like?

1027
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 10: Oh, well, they're they're a little bit of everything, to

1028
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 10: be honest, to have a lot.

1029
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 8: Of loud, arrogant friends and a lot of shy ones,

1030
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 8: and some that are getting it together and some of them,

1031
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 8: you know, struggling.

1032
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: See if you have friends that are arrogant, maybe they

1033
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: won't even want your money, right, They'll be They'll be like,

1034
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: what do you think I am, Ricky? A charity case?

1035
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 13: You know?

1036
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true.

1037
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: Maybe the shy ones will be too bashful though.

1038
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 8: You know I will take your So what does that

1039
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 8: mean that I that I'd be in a good, good situation.

1040
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 8: I guess I wouldn't have to worry about that so much.

1041
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: I think the fact that you know, when asked what

1042
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 2: your paradise is, you instinctively think of something selfless, something

1043
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: where you can help other people. I think that means

1044
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: that you're pure at heart. And if there is a

1045
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: divine entity that makes judgments of us when we die,

1046
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: they will judge you favorably and send you to heaven.

1047
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: And I like that for you, Ricky, I think you deserve.

1048
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 8: Thank you.

1049
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: Gek of course, you have a great rest of the night.

1050
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 8: Thank you too.

1051
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 16: From Raina.

1052
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: Rana.

1053
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 16: That's me, mister gi.

1054
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 14: How are you doing.

1055
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 19: So?

1056
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 16: I want to ask you the questions right now? How

1057
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 16: did it start?

1058
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 14: Where did the gecko thing come from?

1059
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 16: I didn't have time to read up on the lore

1060
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 16: of the gek man, but I really wanted to hear

1061
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 16: from you from the horse's mouth, from the gek's mouth?

1062
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 14: How did it start?

1063
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious when you say you didn't read

1064
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: up on the lore, where would you even go to?

1065
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: First of all, if assuming such law even exists, where

1066
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: would one go to read up on this?

1067
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 9: Well?

1068
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 16: I mean I assume there's a gek Wikia, if not

1069
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 16: just the Wikipedia page.

1070
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think I'm fair. I don't think. Don't

1071
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: you have to be like a real person or something

1072
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: to be on Wikipedia?

1073
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 9: Uh?

1074
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 16: No? No, I mean Ax Jones is a Wikipedia and

1075
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 16: he's a lizard.

1076
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: You could do.

1077
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 7: Uh.

1078
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: I think that there's if there's like a lizard Pedia

1079
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: or like a Wikia with the bar fornch like the

1080
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: actual Wikipedia. It's but it's pretty tough to get in.

1081
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: But like the Wikia, you know that just wiki with

1082
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: an a at the end, Wikia, you can make a

1083
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: you can make a Wikia page about anyone.

1084
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, yeah, But I think I think you need

1085
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 16: to have like a Gikipedia. I'm really liking this Geikipedia option.

1086
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: Anyone out there that wants to make a Gikipedia, please,

1087
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: that would excite me. I'm gonna be honest with you, like,

1088
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 2: all right, I don't think I could give you a

1089
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: general origin story because I don't know if I have one.

1090
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: But if you have a specific question, I could try

1091
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: my best.

1092
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 16: You know, I think I think it's best we leave

1093
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 16: that too. I think we leave that to imagination sort

1094
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 16: of how the Joker has you know, more than one

1095
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 16: origin story. Maybe you fell into a vat of green acid.

1096
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 16: You know, it could be anything.

1097
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: So I feel like, so okay, so kind of playing

1098
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: into that. Do you feel as though your experience of

1099
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: this would be positively, negatively or possibly not even at

1100
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: all altered by your knowledge of an origin story?

1101
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 10: You know.

1102
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 16: That's a good question, and I think I think in

1103
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 16: the end it doesn't really matter for me. I just

1104
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 16: like to know things. You know, I do this thing.

1105
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 16: I do this thing where I look people up on

1106
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 16: the internet. You know, if I if I know who

1107
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 16: they are, if I know their name, what they do,

1108
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 16: what they like, you know, where do they where do

1109
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 16: they post on the internet. I feel like I know.

1110
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 14: Them a little better.

1111
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: So you know what I mean what you're saying, Oh.

1112
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 16: No, definitely not see that.

1113
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 14: I don't. I don't want to people love that.

1114
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: Wait, what do you mean definitely not? You just said

1115
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 2: that's not definitely. You just said that you like to

1116
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: look people up.

1117
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 16: And this is actually part of.

1118
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: What corrected me to assume that you tried to look

1119
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: me up.

1120
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 16: Oh no, no, And this is actually part of what

1121
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 16: I've been trying to do better at lately. I've been

1122
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 16: putting it off. I haven't been I have been looking

1123
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 16: people up. I have been compiling that into into ZIP

1124
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 16: files and putting them on CDs and writing the names

1125
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 16: of like albums on them and hiding them under my bed.

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00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 14: I'm not doing.

1127
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: That all on These people are these like like people

1128
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: like you know who you just like see on the internet,

1129
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: or like artist or like musicians or whatever, or are

1130
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: they like people you know in real life?

1131
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 16: So it's not really people on the internet, like people

1132
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 16: who I don't know and don't know me.

1133
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 14: That's not as good.

1134
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 16: It's got to be people I know either on the internet,

1135
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 16: like and who also know me. So maybe online friends

1136
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 16: or people who.

1137
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: Are just like really that you make zip files of

1138
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: information of them and put it onto a CD.

1139
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 16: And and on the CD I write the name of

1140
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 16: an album like the Cure, uh Disintegration.

1141
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 14: I'll put it in a CD case.

1142
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: This is for like like as a disguise.

1143
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, because who's going to open up a CD

1144
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 16: case see the Cure Disintegration and uh like be like,

1145
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 16: oh fuck, I love that, I love that album and

1146
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 16: put it in.

1147
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, So why are you compiled? All right? So

1148
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: like you make all right? So these are not These

1149
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: are like internet friends, like people you would meet in

1150
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: like a discord channel or like while playing games or.

1151
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 14: Something, or people in real life?

1152
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: Are they are they strangers? Are their friends?

1153
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 14: Uh?

1154
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 16: They've got to be people that like I interact with

1155
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 16: and it's not in a weird way.

1156
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: Why do you compile? I mean, well, hold on, because

1157
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: all right, looking up someone looking up someone on fucking

1158
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: Facebook or Instagram is like you know what, everyone fucking

1159
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: does that. But compiling it on onto to a folder

1160
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: and put burning it onto a CD is another level.

1161
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 16: And so here's the thing. Is it really any different

1162
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 16: from what major you know, tech companies do to us

1163
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 16: on a daily basis? Is it really any different if

1164
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 16: your friends.

1165
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: Think it is a little bit different because it's a

1166
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: little it's more targeted, right are you? Well, let me

1167
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: ask you this. Are you doing this for a financial

1168
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: get what is your motive behind this?

1169
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 14: I don't know.

1170
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 16: It's just this compulsion. I need to know things about people,

1171
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 16: and I don't even want to do anything with it,

1172
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 16: Like I just need. I have the need to just

1173
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 16: really know somebody, and I don't want to get like

1174
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 16: really weird with them either. It's not like a sexual thing,

1175
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 16: and it's not this thing where it's like oh you'r

1176
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 16: mind now, It's just like I want to know them,

1177
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 16: you know.

1178
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: But but.

1179
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 16: Yeah, mister Busket says, I'm a background checker. Yeah, it's

1180
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 16: like a background check people. I don't know some guy

1181
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 16: with a crown in chat, but yeah, it's like a

1182
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 16: background check.

1183
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: The only the old I want to start you guys.

1184
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: I came up with something. Fuck, I just came up

1185
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: with something incredible. I just came up would you say

1186
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: your name was Rana? Rana? I just came up with.

1187
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: I just came up with a line that I'm going

1188
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: to use him for the next ten years of me

1189
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: doing Let's do it, Randa, there is Randa. The only

1190
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: chat you should be paying attention to is the chat

1191
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: between you and me.

1192
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 14: Oh absolutely, what chat?

1193
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm using chat?

1194
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 14: I love it.

1195
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 16: I love it. I'm a trailblazer. Anyway, let's get back

1196
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 16: to the situation at hands.

1197
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: Okay, but still okay, but all the motives you've described, Okay,

1198
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: sure everyone people, Yes, people go and they stalk each

1199
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 2: other's linkedins and or whatever. And you know, but what

1200
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't understan And is why you're burning it to

1201
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: a CD? What like what does that do for you?

1202
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: That's more archival than that is more of an archiving

1203
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: of information than a seeking of information. What do you?

1204
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 2: What do you? What are you doing with those seats?

1205
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 10: Like?

1206
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: Why do you? What's behind it?

1207
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 20: You know?

1208
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 16: If I were to if I were to put any

1209
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 16: sort of meaning to it, if I were to say

1210
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 16: something to explain it, here's my armchair, here's my armchair explanation. Please,

1211
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 16: I just need to I need to keep people. I'm

1212
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 16: afraid of losing them, you know, And if it ever

1213
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 16: comes to a point, you know, in that relationship, whether

1214
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 16: it's a friendship or whether it's somebody that you know,

1215
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 16: I'm romantically involved with, it's if I keep them on

1216
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 16: that CD, then I'll never lose them, you know, And

1217
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 16: it's a lot better than than chopping them up, cooking

1218
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 16: them into a and you know, being with them forever

1219
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 16: in that kind of way.

1220
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: You know, have you ever talked to a real therapist

1221
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: about this? And now I'll see I think that you

1222
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 2: should before you know, you you get there?

1223
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 16: Oh no, never, never, it's it's you know, it's too

1224
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 16: much work. You know, it's way too much work to

1225
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 16: kill somebody. Why would you want to do that?

1226
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 12: Do you know?

1227
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: The whole it being too much work? While on the

1228
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: list of reasons why you shouldn't kill someone is not

1229
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: I would not consider a prominently featured one.

1230
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, absolutely, Like there's not a list out there

1231
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 16: of reasons to kill somebody, and there shouldn't be. I mean,

1232
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 16: why would.

1233
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: You Have you spoken to a real therapist about this?

1234
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 10: Oh?

1235
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 14: Yeah, about this?

1236
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 12: No?

1237
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: Should grow.

1238
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 16: You what the therapist? You know what the therapist is

1239
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 16: going to say. They're going to be like, so did

1240
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 16: you do that? To me, and they're not going to

1241
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 16: say that out of like out of like you know,

1242
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 16: trying to suss me out. They're going to say that

1243
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 16: because like as a person, they're kind of like creeped

1244
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 16: out by it.

1245
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 14: You know.

1246
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: I asked you if you did that to me.

1247
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 14: I don't.

1248
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 16: I didn't see, and that's why I said, I'm trying

1249
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 16: to do better at it.

1250
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 14: I don't do that.

1251
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 12: Ship.

1252
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 14: I've been doing better at.

1253
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 2: It, okay, but the therap you should talk to a

1254
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: therapist about it so they can tell you why. You know,

1255
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: they can help you out with it, because I just.

1256
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 14: I just I just told you why.

1257
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 16: But yeah, yeah, yeah, anyways.

1258
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 10: I.

1259
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: Like that you're weaning off it. I'm you know what,

1260
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: I'm let me tell you something right now. I'm happy

1261
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: that you didn't do that to me. Not for my sake.

1262
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: I don't really care if you burn a CD with

1263
01:03:54,760 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 2: my fucking Tumblr account on it and ship for your

1264
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: own sake. I'm happy that you didn't do that to me.

1265
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 2: Happy to hear you're progressing.

1266
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 16: I feel like our conversation has gone much better than

1267
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 16: than it could have if if I did do that,

1268
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 16: you know, like, if I knew that for example, you

1269
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 16: love the color move right, it would be it would

1270
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 16: be really awkward.

1271
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 14: I really hope you don't love the color.

1272
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: That's uh. Another thing you know is there's no mistake anymore.

1273
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: God damn it, there's no mistake. Everyone knows everything. I mean,

1274
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: dates aren't fun anymore. Everyone's always you meet someone on

1275
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: whatever and then you look up their fucking ship and

1276
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: you're like.

1277
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 12: You know, I agree.

1278
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,439
Speaker 2: You're figuring people out by talking to them. That's why

1279
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: we were doing. Maybe that's why you wanted to know

1280
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: the origin from.

1281
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 16: My Yeah, I want to. I want to learn how

1282
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 16: to connect with people, you know.

1283
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: That's my parent I think. But that is a good

1284
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: progression for you. I'm glad to hear that you are

1285
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: making active steps towards uh no longer burning seeds of people.

1286
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, because who knows, one day it could be

1287
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 16: burning people right like that. That's I'm just talking with you.

1288
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 16: I'm fucking with you, gek. I'm not going to burn anybody.

1289
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: I hope you don't.

1290
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 14: Well.

1291
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 16: In the meantime, I'll be looking so long at these

1292
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 16: pictures of you.

1293
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: You have a good rest of the night, Randa, thank

1294
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 2: you for sharing.

1295
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 14: Hey you to see you later gek.

1296
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 9: All from Stephen. How you doing?

1297
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: Steven?

1298
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 9: Hey, how you doing?

1299
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: What's up? Stephen? How you doing?

1300
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 9: I'm all right, man, I'm all right. You know, I'm

1301
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 9: just sitting back here and iowre and chilling out like

1302
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 9: everybody else, isolated, nothing to do. I mean, I do

1303
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 9: stuff around the house. I mean I listen to your show.

1304
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: What do you do around the house?

1305
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 9: Well, around the house. I just like I clean up,

1306
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 9: kind of like a woman's thing. But I like to

1307
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 9: clean my house, not up too. And I played the

1308
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 9: Nintendo Switch.

1309
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 10: You know.

1310
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 9: Do you think it's that?

1311
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 13: Do you think it's well, no, actually, you know what,

1312
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 13: I take that back now, I think like we should

1313
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 13: all keep our house clean.

1314
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 9: Actually, so no, I take that bah.

1315
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, cleanliness is gender neutral.

1316
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah. If you don't clean, then it's it's like

1317
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 9: next to godliness.

1318
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, also a secular activity.

1319
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 10: One might say, yeah, yeah, you.

1320
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: Know, just ship on everything you say.

1321
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 9: But no, you know, you know, first time, I'm Cauler

1322
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 9: by the way, first time, beautiful.

1323
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: How long you've been watching the stream.

1324
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 9: For I've been on Twitch for quite some time now.

1325
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 9: I uh, well, I've been watching maybe about a few months.

1326
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 9: Now I think, and it's it's it's really relaxing, uh,

1327
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 9: watching your streams and listening to you converse with like

1328
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 9: all different people, types of people and personalities and stuff.

1329
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 12: You know.

1330
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, Steven, what type of

1331
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: person do you think you are? Bucks yourself into a personality?

1332
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 9: I think I'm a person that's uh. I'm very much

1333
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 9: to myself and even even before COVID, I was to myself.

1334
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 9: I'm just the type of person that I don't don't

1335
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 9: really like talk to people. So like, I guess talking

1336
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 9: to you is uh. I guess a little different for

1337
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 9: me because typically I'm to myself, Like, I don't really

1338
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 9: converse with anyone really. I mean I have a wife,

1339
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 9: like well, I don't have a job, so I really

1340
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 9: don't do anything for a living. I mean I get

1341
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 9: on TikTok and make videos and things like that. And no,

1342
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 9: I'm not going to promote. I don't need to. But

1343
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 9: like I do, like I love like Okay, I am

1344
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 9: addicted to like social media and uh, I'm addicted to

1345
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 9: I don't know if this is appropriate to say on stream,

1346
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 9: but I also am addicted to prescription narcotics and stuff

1347
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 9: legal prescription narcotics from doctors and stuff.

1348
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: You've been going to a real person about that, right, Yeah.

1349
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 9: No, I don't get anything like illegally. See that's the thing.

1350
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:10,799
Speaker 9: I got that legal.

1351
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean like like, oh, addiction help.

1352
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, like I've I've been through the cycle of

1353
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 9: cycles of getting help and being put on treatment medicine

1354
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:30,799
Speaker 9: and with my personality with addiction and you know, addiction

1355
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 9: to drinking as well, but with my person I just

1356
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 9: have a very addictive personality and I've been on treatment

1357
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 9: medicine and I've also abused the treatment medicine as well too.

1358
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 9: So I mean addiction is uh is uh, it's it's deeming.

1359
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 9: It's hard, I think any addiction uh to try to

1360
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 9: get a grasp on it's hard to grasp it, and

1361
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 9: it's hard to not slip. You know what I'm saying.

1362
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,480
Speaker 9: It's hard, it really is. There's a lot of addictions

1363
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 9: out there, and it's just how they hang on.

1364
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: Are you Are you regularly seeing a counselor or a

1365
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:15,799
Speaker 2: therapist or uh group or something?

1366
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 9: See my saying my very like with counsulors and stuff,

1367
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 9: and I have seen them before, but I feel like,

1368
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 9: you know, if they're not on your level. Like if

1369
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 9: they're not on your level and they don't know, like

1370
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 9: if they're not on your level, they haven't been there,

1371
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 9: done that you then But it's isn't that Yeah?

1372
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 2: Isn't that like sort of the point of like the

1373
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: sponsor right, like they've been there?

1374
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, well yeah, exactly. That's what I'm trying to say.

1375
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 9: Like I'm like, I think it'll be perfect if they

1376
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 9: if they know exactly like where I then like if

1377
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 9: they've been there themselves, that would help me a lot,

1378
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, Like, but not just someone

1379
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 9: that's just gonna sit there and like you know, talk

1380
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 9: and take notes and they have an experienced you know

1381
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 9: what I'm going through themselves. How are they gonna know?

1382
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: You know you have you tried like seeking out?

1383
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, like they're well not sponsors. No, I do talk

1384
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 9: to I do converse with a lot of I talk

1385
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 9: to a lot of people, Like I'm a people person.

1386
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 9: I like to talk to.

1387
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 21: People well online, like I have a social life online,

1388
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 21: Like I'm addicted to the internet, so I have more

1389
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 21: of a social life online.

1390
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 9: I don't talk to people in real life, I don't,

1391
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 9: but like on the internet, I'm I'm pretty sociable, but

1392
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 9: I'm to myself in person, like I don't know, is

1393
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 9: that weird?

1394
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: Like I don't know somethings that weird, but no, yeah, so,

1395
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I don't know. Here's the thing.

1396
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 2: I'm not a real therapist.

1397
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 9: I'm no. I know that. No, I know that. But

1398
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 9: you're cool to talk to though, Like it's relaxing and

1399
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 9: fun to listen to.

1400
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 11: You.

1401
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean these questions of like, you know, is it

1402
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: weird to not talk to people, to only have friends

1403
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: on the internet, Like.

1404
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I don't know.

1405
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: I think these are worthy questions of talking out with.

1406
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 9: Uh uh, you know, it's a good question, right, I mean,

1407
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 9: I mean that that would be me though, Like I

1408
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 9: have more of a social life on the internet. Like

1409
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 9: to me, that's like, you know, kind of like my

1410
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 9: real life. Like the people I talk to online I

1411
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 9: consider like, you know, real people, so because in real

1412
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 9: life I wouldn't be talking to real people, like it's

1413
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 9: so weird, Like I get. I mean, you know, I really.

1414
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: Have a developed and it's something I feel like we've

1415
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: talked about before on here. I don't have a super

1416
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: developed opinion on it. So like I mean, it depends

1417
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: on what perspective you're coming at it with. Because the

1418
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:25,839
Speaker 2: world is changing the world. I mean, it's fucking COVID

1419
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: accelerated that times a thousand. But well, yeah, if you

1420
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 2: were to ask a psychologist or someone who is an

1421
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 2: expert on human mental health stuff what their opinion is on,

1422
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: you know, having only Internet friends, I would be curious

1423
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 2: what they would say.

1424
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 9: And I totally agree with what you said too. Because

1425
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 9: of COVID, Like I feel like everything is gravitating anyway

1426
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 9: towards the Internet, and I feel like the Internet becoming

1427
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 9: like more real. It's becoming like Earth, but it's Internet

1428
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 9: because of COVID. We I mean it is, you know,

1429
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 9: and if you think about it like that and you

1430
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 9: keep thinking about it, it's actually really happening, like it's true,

1431
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 9: like it's becoming a planet almost like.

1432
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 2: You know, that's what I was thinking about with like

1433
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 2: n f T you know n f tsre.

1434
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 9: I I've heard, well, I don't really know that. I heard,

1435
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 9: like I've heard it from a couple of people, like

1436
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 9: personalities on the Internet and stuff. I heard that I

1437
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 9: don't understand like exactly what it is.

1438
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: What is a I only kind of understand what it is.

1439
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: But I'm like, yeah, I think it's right I'm talking,

1440
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: but uh, the I think it'll like allow you to

1441
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: like people are going to start buying and selling like

1442
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 2: digital real estate. Some some I think some some woman

1443
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: bought a house, like a digital house for like half

1444
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: a million dollars or something like that. She says it, like,

1445
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, we're going to be living in digital So

1446
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. This stuffs allid above my that's weird.

1447
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 9: And and you know when you said that, I automatically

1448
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 9: thought of that movie Smart House. Do you remember that movie?

1449
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: Did the Disney Channel original movie Smart House?

1450
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 9: It is? It is? And it's like, do you remember,

1451
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 9: like they were all like computer Like the house was

1452
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 9: a computer, the mom was like a computer personality. Like

1453
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 9: I feel like we're entering in that era. We're entering

1454
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 9: in that world, bro because of COVID though, like we're

1455
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 9: entering I.

1456
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: Have no idea what the future will bring. Well, I

1457
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: hope to see you in the in whatever grand I hope.

1458
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 9: You see the digital world or something.

1459
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, therapy g O M m O r pg uh.

1460
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, it's a pleasure talking to you. And

1461
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: and yeah, you could I'm just a guy on the computer.

1462
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 12: But you know that's yeah.

1463
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, are able to find some

1464
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: sort of legitimate professional help with with you know, whatever

1465
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: you've got going on.

1466
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 12: Oh yeah.

1467
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 9: I mean we all got addictions out there, and I

1468
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 9: think for people that do, including myself, I think we

1469
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 9: should keep reaching for that help and and just never

1470
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 9: give up. You know, there's there's just gonna keep talking

1471
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 9: to people, you know, just just keep reaching.

1472
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much, Steve, you have no Steven, Steve.

1473
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 9: Steven, Steve, you two. Thank you so much.

1474
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 12: All from Ethan.

1475
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: Ethan.

1476
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 12: Hey, oh shit, I actually got through. What's up?

1477
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: Oh shit? I think I said I was streaming on Reddit.

1478
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:05,440
Speaker 2: I meant to say streaming.

1479
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 12: On Twitch anyway, Well you're streaming on Reddit.

1480
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: I'm streaming on both. It doesn't matter. I'm on the

1481
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 2: phone with Ethan. What's up.

1482
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 12: Hey, I have no idea like who you are. I

1483
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 12: just I was on Reddit and I saw you.

1484
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: I had to You're exactly who I want to talk to.

1485
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: I have no idea who you are. You have no

1486
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 2: idea who I am. What's now? There's so much that

1487
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: we can figure out together.

1488
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 12: There's something I really want to know. Like, the first

1489
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 12: thing that popped into my mind when I saw you,

1490
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 12: tell me, can I pull you, like out of your

1491
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:37,480
Speaker 12: character for a second.

1492
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 10: There.

1493
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: I don't even think there is a character. I don't

1494
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: even know what I'm doing a they let me do

1495
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: this for this song? What's up?

1496
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 12: Okay? Why the why the whole get goo thing? Like?

1497
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 12: Why not just yourself? I?

1498
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 2: Oh, well, if we're if we're asking, why not just

1499
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 2: we're talking to somebody about me tonight?

1500
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 13: Uh?

1501
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 2: Why not just myself?

1502
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1503
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: Look, from a marketing perspective, if I came out here

1504
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 2: and I was like, this is the Lyle Show starring

1505
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: me Lyle, everyone will be like, yeah, who gives a

1506
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: fuck about this? What the fuck is this stupid? But

1507
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: this is a you know, it's a hook, it's a

1508
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: different thing. It's a whole. I don't even know. I

1509
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 2: thought you're gonna ask why a gecko? And I don't

1510
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: even have an answer to that question.

1511
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 12: Well that was the second one. Is it just because

1512
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 12: you own a gecko, wenesie or something. I work in marketing,

1513
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 12: so when I saw the first thing that popped into

1514
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 12: my mind was marketing.

1515
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: A large, a healthy percentage of the reason why it

1516
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: is Gecko is indeed, because I already owned the Gecko cost.

1517
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 12: Okay, sure enough.

1518
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: So how are you voice?

1519
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 12: Sorry? What did you say?

1520
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 2: I said you have a nice voice.

1521
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 12: You think so? Thank you. I appreciate that. It's kind

1522
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 12: of fake though, Like I I have a headset and

1523
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 12: I use voice meter to like boost the bass a

1524
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 12: bit make me sound sexier.

1525
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 2: But wait is that true?

1526
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 12: All right?

1527
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 2: All right, hold on, look listen. Wait would you say

1528
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: your name was again?

1529
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 12: Ethan?

1530
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: Ethan? All right, look I gave you I got out

1531
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: of my Gecko character.

1532
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 12: You dead? I think you're stream progm this stream. Oh wait,

1533
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 12: no it didn't. You were just standing very still.

1534
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: It might be the later stop streaming twenty minutes ago.

1535
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: What's your what's your real voice?

1536
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 12: Sound not very different? I can just like it. Just

1537
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 12: this is just my real voice.

1538
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 2: Oh it's all right. It sounds yeah, this is your voice.

1539
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't sound different? The audio quality sound.

1540
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,719
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'm not using like a voice

1541
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 12: tager or anything. It's just a little bass boosted. That's all.

1542
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 12: Love me.

1543
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: If I if you saw a stream on Reddit that

1544
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 2: was called the Lyle Show, you would scroll and it

1545
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 2: was just some random fucking guy. You'd be like, what

1546
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 2: the fuck is one hundred?

1547
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 12: I wouldn't even I don't even watch our band. I

1548
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 12: think it's horrible, but they just put it in your face.

1549
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,839
Speaker 12: So I was scrolling and I just saw green flashing

1550
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 12: in my screen, and green and marketing Green is one

1551
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 12: of the one of the primary sort of I magnet colors. Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1552
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 12: I know that I work in video games, so like

1553
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 12: when we make trailers and whatnot, green is one of

1554
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 12: the colors we used to sort of pop out from

1555
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 12: the other thumbnails on YouTube and whatnot.

1556
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: Really, all right, I'm gonna look for that now out

1557
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 2: in the wild, like video How much are you willing

1558
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: to share?

1559
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 12: What? What?

1560
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: What's the last video game?

1561
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 12: Uh? I don't want to share that. I don't want

1562
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 12: to like Britain identifiable information, but otherwise anything else yeah,

1563
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 12: mm hmmm.

1564
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

1565
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 12: Do you like? Do you like?

1566
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 2: Working on video games? Is the company? You don't have

1567
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: to tell us what company you work for?

1568
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 12: But no, that's that's what I can't do. Yeah, I

1569
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 12: I've been in the industry for nine years now and

1570
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 12: it's only been smaller indie studios. Okay, so teams, the

1571
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 12: smallest team I've worked at is right now. The team

1572
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 12: I'm in right now, there's seven of us. I think

1573
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 12: the biggest team I've worked in was twenty three. I think.

1574
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 12: So it's always small, small studios, and I love it.

1575
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 12: I love it because it's a small studio. But I

1576
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 12: love what I do. I don't love where I do it,

1577
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 12: if that.

1578
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 2: Makes sense, like location wise.

1579
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 12: No like industry, Like I think the gaming industry is ass.

1580
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: It's okay, you like marketing, but you don't like gaming exactly.

1581
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 12: But that's the problem. Though I like game marketing, I

1582
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 12: just don't like the gaming industry. It's the worst thing.

1583
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: The gaming industry.

1584
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 12: Oh god, so many things, so many things. There's so

1585
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 12: many like like the teenagers in my family, like my nephew,

1586
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 12: and you know, my nephew's friends and that always come

1587
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 12: to me asking me for like like advice or questions

1588
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 12: about how what do I have to study it again

1589
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 12: in the gaming industry or whatever, And I feel horrible

1590
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 12: because I always sell them like, h you probably shouldn't.

1591
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 12: It's probably it shouldn't be your first goal or not,

1592
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 12: because it's it's a really it's a rough industry. I mean,

1593
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 12: every everybody that plays Vitter games kind of and follows

1594
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 12: like the news knows a little bit. You know, there's

1595
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 12: crunch and the wages are kind of shit and and uh,

1596
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 12: and there's that's the problem. Everybody wants to work in

1597
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 12: the gaming industry, So everybody's disposable up to a certain point,

1598
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 12: even when you're even when you're you're even when you're

1599
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 12: a senior. It's kind of it's you know, there's always

1600
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 12: going to be someone else that can replace you, you know,

1601
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 12: in a heartbeat. It's not as bad when you work

1602
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 12: in smaller studios like I do, which is why I

1603
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 12: do it, because there's still sort of there's like a

1604
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 12: sense of family that that gets established, right. But then again,

1605
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 12: that sense of family makes you feel guilty if you

1606
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 12: don't want to do overtime, if you you know, if

1607
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 12: you're yeah, sorry.

1608
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: That's kind of are you you ever thought about starting

1609
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 2: your own gay? I guess I used to.

1610
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 12: I used to. I used to have my own Yeah.

1611
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 12: I released the game on I released a game on

1612
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 12: on on Android and iPhones a while back, And that's

1613
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 12: kind of what kick started me. Like when I was

1614
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 12: in college, I just made a little game just for fun,

1615
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 12: and it kind of caught on, you know, like I

1616
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 12: was making a decent revenue, you know, like I bought

1617
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 12: a house, I bought a car, et cetera, so on

1618
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 12: and so forth, and then I moved on to uh. Actually,

1619
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 12: when I bought my house, I started sort of getting anxious.

1620
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 12: I'm a very anxious person. I started getting anxious about

1621
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 12: not being able to afford my mortgage or whatnot. And

1622
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 12: then I was like, Okay, I want to I don't

1623
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 12: want to be like self employed anymore, because that's always riskier. Yeah,

1624
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 12: so I went to look for a job somewhere like

1625
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 12: in a a in a company, which maybe was a

1626
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 12: mistake because game studios are not inherently more stable than

1627
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 12: being self employed. But it's kind of too late now, mhm.

1628
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 2: And that was nine years ago. You were self.

1629
01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 12: Employed approximately, Yeah, wow, was still I still had my

1630
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 12: sorry was that I was gonna say, I, uh, I

1631
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 12: still had some some ad revenue from my games even

1632
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 12: when I was employed for the first couple of years.

1633
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 12: But then it kind of died down because I stopped updating,

1634
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 12: I stopped doing anything.

1635
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: Damn. Oh yeah, I was gonna what uh, what made

1636
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 2: you want to get into the marketing side of it?

1637
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 12: Honestly, the game that I had running on mobile had

1638
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 12: a super heavy community aspect to it, and like, uh so,

1639
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 12: like the community management went not like it was a

1640
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 12: multiplayer online game, think think like io games a little bit.

1641
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 12: So there were a lot of people that like chatted,

1642
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 12: and we had forms for it and not a discord

1643
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 12: back then it was just forms, but eventually we got

1644
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 12: a discord after that. And uh and and I like

1645
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 12: I was always good at like hiring people to be

1646
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 12: like moderators or administrators or and like just creating community

1647
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 12: events and whatnot. So when I wanted to get into

1648
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 12: into a studio, I was never a very good programmer. Actually,

1649
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 12: Like the whole code for the game that I made

1650
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 12: was kind of trash, and I didn't have the confidence to,

1651
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 12: you know, to to get hired as a programmer. So

1652
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 12: I decided the next thing I can do is is

1653
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 12: community management. And that's what I started as I started

1654
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 12: as a community manager, so just like Twitter, Facebook, you know, discord, forums, websites,

1655
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 12: stuff like that, and then quickly it evolved into like

1656
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,879
Speaker 12: advertising and then marketing and all that kind of stuff.

1657
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 2: So after you left your gig, you know, with your

1658
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: own game, what became of your community.

1659
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 12: Nothing. It just kind of died down. It was already

1660
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 12: starting to die down when I started deciding, okay, Like

1661
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 12: that's part of also what made me be like, Okay,

1662
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 12: I have a house now, I gotta pay mortgage. I

1663
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 12: got bills today, you know, like I'm a grow I

1664
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 12: don't live with my mom anymore. I got to pay

1665
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 12: for my own shit. Yeah, And I could see the

1666
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,839
Speaker 12: community starting to die down. I could see my passions

1667
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 12: starting to die as well. So I knew I didn't

1668
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 12: have it in me to like, like what kept it

1669
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 12: alive was updating the game, you know, like keeping new

1670
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 12: content coming in and more people doing it. And eventually

1671
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 12: I just started losing interest in the community started dying down,

1672
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 12: and uh, eventually there just wasn't anyone anymore.

1673
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: What do you think led to the downfall of the community.

1674
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 2: It was just your lack of passion.

1675
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 12: And updated one per one hundred percent. It was just

1676
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 12: me no longer updating begin That's how it is. And

1677
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 12: in games in general, there's I feel like there's no

1678
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 12: such thing as as like there's no such thing game

1679
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 12: gamers online. I hate saying that gamers online will get

1680
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 12: offended and upset about something, but it will never kill

1681
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 12: a community because nine of people don't give a fuck.

1682
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 12: Like whenever in marketing, it happens a lot. It's happened

1683
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 12: in studio where I've worked, where something controversial happened, Like, uh,

1684
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 12: I don't know, and this is gonna sound very controversial

1685
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 12: for what I'm about to say, very mean. It's not

1686
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:54,959
Speaker 12: what I think as a person, but as a professional,

1687
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 12: I have to you know, it's kind of my job

1688
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 12: when when let's say I don't know, Let's say someone

1689
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 12: like the studio that I'm working at, they release micro

1690
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 12: transactions to a game that previously didn't have micro transactions,

1691
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 12: and now quote unquote, the community is really angry about it.

1692
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 12: They they're angry, they post on the forms, they go

1693
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 12: on a discord, they're like, oh, you guys are selling out.

1694
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 12: You just want our money? No, no, no, yeah. The

1695
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 12: answer I give, like my boss's quote unquote every single time,

1696
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 12: the studo that I'm merking it is it doesn't matter.

1697
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 12: That's like, it's a vocal. It's always a vocal minority.

1698
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 12: People are gonna like five percent of the community is

1699
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 12: going to be pissed for two three weeks. They're going

1700
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 12: to keep mentioning it here and there forever, but it's

1701
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 12: never gonna affect sales. It's never gonna affect things. Now,

1702
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 12: obviously there's obvious exceptions. There's there's big exceptions where like

1703
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 12: a studio that's something absolutely atrocious and they like Social Suicide.

1704
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 12: But even then, like Cyberpunk twenty, I don't know how

1705
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 12: much of a gamer you are.

1706
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 2: That's why I know peripherally there's a bunch of shit

1707
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: going on with with that that game.

1708
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 12: Yeah. So Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven is a game that

1709
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 12: was announced like thirteen years ago, and they the marketing

1710
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 12: team was exceptional in that game. It was like the

1711
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 12: best marketing I've ever seen. Like they just sold you

1712
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 12: a dream of a game, like the game that would

1713
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 12: change everything, and they kept delaying it to make it better, delaying, delaying,

1714
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 12: delaying for thirteen I think it was thirteen years or

1715
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 12: twelve years or something like that, and it came out,

1716
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 12: you know, this year or last year actually, and it

1717
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 12: was garbage. It was like shit, like it was buggy.

1718
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 12: It didn't have half of the things they promised, and

1719
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 12: despite that, it's still one of the top I think

1720
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,520
Speaker 12: top ten. Yeah, top ten games sold on Steam.

1721
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 2: I almost think people controversy even is like a marketing thing.

1722
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 2: I would not I wouldn't known this game was if

1723
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 2: why everyone wasn't pissed off about it?

1724
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 12: Yeah? All advertising is good advertising. Any attention, got the

1725
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 12: attention when you're trying to sell something interesting? Yeah, yeah,

1726
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 12: but yeah there's Ethan Easton.

1727
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, before I let you go, I want

1728
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 2: to know what, all right, you don't like the gaming industry,

1729
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 2: but you like marketing.

1730
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 12: I like marketing and I like game marketing. I just

1731
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 12: don't like the I wish the gaming industry would change.

1732
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 12: Whether wish the gaming industry wouldn't be what it is?

1733
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: What would you change about it?

1734
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 12: Oh? I don't think you can change I think maybe

1735
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 12: that's maybe I'm a bit of a hypocrite, But I

1736
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 12: guess what I would change about it is is having

1737
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 12: less people wanting to be in the gaming industry so

1738
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 12: that us who are in the gaming industry don't have

1739
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 12: such a hard time, because I think the root of

1740
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 12: our problems is that we're disposable. The root of our problems,

1741
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 12: as as people who work in the gaming industry is

1742
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 12: that if you don't like it, you can fuck off

1743
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 12: and someone will take your place.

1744
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 2: But with like the centralized well real well, like with

1745
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 2: the the centralization of whatever, and the fact that like,

1746
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, anyone who learns how a program can just

1747
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 2: make a game on their own. Yeah, like if you're

1748
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 2: like a total Fox kind of guy, you.

1749
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 10: Know, Yeah, but not even.

1750
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 12: No, not at all, because the amount of like anyone

1751
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,720
Speaker 12: can make a game. But it's the same way as influencers.

1752
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 12: Maybe that's something you're more familiar with the industry of influencers.

1753
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 12: I didn't even check your Twitch. I have no idea

1754
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 12: like how famous you are, but assuming you're relatively successful,

1755
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 12: you probably know how lucky you are. I'm not saying

1756
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 12: there's no skill in it. Of course, there's a lot

1757
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 12: of skill in it. But at the same time, there's

1758
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 12: a lot of luck in it too, right, Like out

1759
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 12: of how many people are streaming on twitch right now

1760
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 12: that have like zero viewers, I think there's a website

1761
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 12: that literally shows you a list of all the people

1762
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 12: streaming with zero viewers, and it's like thousands. Right. It's

1763
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 12: the same thing with games. There's thousands of games that

1764
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 12: are made and a handful that get any sort of

1765
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 12: attention whatsoever. If you check on Steam, I think in

1766
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 12: twenty seventeen there was something like seven thousand games released.

1767
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 12: In twenty eighteen, I think it was nine thousand.

1768
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 7: A day's total trash, probably a lot, especially since doesn't

1769
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 7: since Steam doesn't what's the fucking doesn't tailor doesn't Taylor?

1770
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 12: No, what's the word I forgot? Doesn't curate? There? It is.

1771
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 12: Steam doesn't curate what games go on Steam. Any game

1772
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 12: is allowed to be on seeing I think they have

1773
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 12: like three rules where it's like nothing illegal, like you

1774
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 12: know the obvious, like like murders, like actual videos of murders,

1775
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 12: or or like children involved in sexual scenarios, or you know,

1776
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 12: the obvious things that are not allowed. But besides that,

1777
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 12: they don't curate whatsoever. There's some pretty horrible games on Steam,

1778
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 12: which also don't get any attention, like you said, but

1779
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,799
Speaker 12: there's also amazing games that get no attention as.

1780
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 2: Well well, Ethan, what's next for you?

1781
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 12: Oh? Fuck? I hate that question? Uh wow, I really

1782
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 12: don't like that question. I also don't like the what's

1783
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 12: your paradise question? I listened for a little bit before

1784
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:47,520
Speaker 12: I call them.

1785
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 2: But what else do you hate about my stream?

1786
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:54,839
Speaker 12: Nothing? I think you're a very very nice guy. Actually,

1787
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 12: I appreciate you a lot, but I hate the what

1788
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 12: is your You don't have a badstream. I think it's

1789
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 12: a really good streamer. I wouldn't stop to listen in

1790
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 12: and call in what I don't okay, I don't like

1791
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 12: what's your paradise or what's in the future for you question,

1792
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 12: because it's a question that scares me because I don't

1793
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 12: have an answer for it, and I feel like I should.

1794
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 12: I feel like I should have a goal, I should

1795
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 12: have a paradise, but I don't. I feel like, like, Okay, hey, Ethan,

1796
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 12: what is your dream in life?

1797
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 11: Like?

1798
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,839
Speaker 12: If I could snap my fingers right now and get anything,

1799
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 12: what would it be? Then? I don't know what it

1800
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 12: would be. Because I'm doing well financially, I'm relatively healthy.

1801
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 12: There's some flaws about me which I wish I didn't have,

1802
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 12: but there's I don't you know what I mean. It's scary.

1803
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 12: Like everybody you ask, they have these dreams and these

1804
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 12: passions and these I have nothing I have like like,

1805
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 12: I enjoy life. I'm not suicidal, Like I have fun living.

1806
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 12: You know, I'm happy with what I have, But I

1807
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 12: don't have like an end goal.

1808
01:32:55,479 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 2: You know, do you need an end goal?

1809
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 12: Well, y'all have Well you're asking people what their angle is, right,

1810
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 12: what's your paradise? That's what your angle is?

1811
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 2: Well really, I mean, well, well okay, look really, if

1812
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 2: we're being out, the question is just a starting point

1813
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 2: or whatever the conversation turns into. But I don't think

1814
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 2: a paradise is necessarily uh uh an end point or

1815
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 2: I'll a pair of our goal even could just be

1816
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: like that. Like that guy who called in and said

1817
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 2: that he, you know, his paradise is to Mary Anna Kendrick.

1818
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 2: I don't think he has a legitimate, you know, five

1819
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 2: step long, five year fucking plan to do that.

1820
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 12: I think it's just you know, yeah, what what's your paridise? Lyle?

1821
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 12: I like the name Lyle. By the way, I really

1822
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 12: like that name.

1823
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 2: Thank you. I like the name Ethan.

1824
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 12: What's your paradise?

1825
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 10: Uh?

1826
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 12: Let me be the get go for a second.

1827
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: My look, doude, my paradise is anything that gets me

1828
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: into a flow state, anything that gets me out of

1829
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: my own fucking head and uh doing a thing as

1830
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,440
Speaker 2: opposed to in my head thinking about.

1831
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 12: Shit, what's wrong with being in your head?

1832
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: There something wrong with it, But I just don't like

1833
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 2: it as a personal preference.

1834
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 12: What do you not like about it? If you don't

1835
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 12: mind me asking me, I don't want to, you know.

1836
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,719
Speaker 2: What, ethan, I've talked too much about myself.

1837
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 12: No, I've been listening for at least thirty minutes. You

1838
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 12: don't talk about yourself much. I mean people are interested

1839
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 12: in you, I guess, But I just I like, I

1840
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 12: would ask this question even if it wasn't you, even

1841
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,719
Speaker 12: if you were like streaming to a few people or whatever.

1842
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 12: Why this is really interesting to me? Because I have

1843
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 12: an answer to that very question that I'm asking you.

1844
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 12: And I don't talk about it to anybody usually in

1845
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 12: real life, and I wouldn't talk about it to you

1846
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 12: if I was an anonymous but I will. Yeah. Why

1847
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 12: don't you like being in your head?

1848
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: I just don't. Doesn't make me happy to do that,

1849
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: you know it makes me happy.

1850
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 12: No negative thoughts, No.

1851
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 2: No, it's not like negative thoughts or anything. It's just

1852
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 2: I like having focused energy. Okay, all right, but but yeah, man, uh.

1853
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, are you doing.

1854
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 19: Uh?

1855
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 12: Yes? Why? Like I said, I think I'm doing good.

1856
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 12: I think I'm doing good. I wasn't doing great a

1857
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 12: year ago and now comparatively, I think I'm doing good.

1858
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 2: Well, Ethan. Man, Look, it's been a pleasure talking to you.

1859
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 12: It's been a pleasure talking to you too. Man.

1860
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 2: You have a great rest of the night and the

1861
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: best of luck to you as you try to figure

1862
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,719
Speaker 2: out what that end goal is your faith.

1863
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 12: Thanks man, I appreciate it. Keep it up, take care

1864
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 12: of men. Bye bye.

1865
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 3: Goes on the line.

1866
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Every night, everything teaching you