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Speaker 1: Previously on Hello John Tale.

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Speaker 2: She kicked me out and we went for two years.

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Speaker 2: We didn't talk two years, not a word. I feel

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Speaker 2: like he's a little bit jealous because I had our

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Speaker 2: actual mom, and I'm jealous that he didn't have her.

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Speaker 3: Since I started talking to Steve, he's made it clear

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Speaker 3: he wanted to know who his father was. Losing the

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Speaker 3: only father he had ever known made him waning to

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Speaker 3: find out who gave him life. Finding his mom wasn't

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Speaker 3: necessarily enough for Steve. I sensed he harbored resentment toward

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Speaker 3: his biological mom, Sandy, forgiving him away, and that pushed

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Speaker 3: Steve to want to find out who his birth father was.

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Speaker 3: So he asked Sandy, He asked his newfound sister Amy,

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Speaker 3: even asked me if I could do some digging. I

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Speaker 3: started looking at his family tree. I'll remind you of

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Speaker 3: what that tree looks like. Sandy was married to clips

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Speaker 3: se Vegas and had Susie Savegas, her first daughter. She

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Speaker 3: was the one that Franklin Floyd kidnapped. Then she had

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Speaker 3: two daughters with Dennis Brandenburg. Remember this, Sandy and her

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Speaker 3: girls thought he had died decades ago, but he was

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Speaker 3: actually alive and well, the whole down time. Anyway, Sandy

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Speaker 3: and Dennis had Alison and Amy. You already know Amy,

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Speaker 3: the bus driver from Virginia. Alison lives in Oregon, but

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Speaker 3: she and the family don't keep in touch. Sandy got

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Speaker 3: pregnant Steve around the same time she was still with

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Speaker 3: Dennis Brandenburgh. Meaning Steve's hunch and mine too, was that

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Speaker 3: he was a Brandenburgh. That would make sense, but he

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Speaker 3: had no proof. He was looking for something definitive. He

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Speaker 3: hadn't expected to find someone who wanted answers as badly

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Speaker 3: as he did another adoptee.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I'm Andre, a carpenter. I am just turned fifty

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Speaker 1: six on a farm on Wstness. They investigations are your

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Speaker 1: private investigtor?

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh honey, we can have fun. Oh yes, Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: When she met Steve in twenty twenty one, she was

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Speaker 3: on her own journey.

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Speaker 1: I've known all my life that I was adopted from

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Speaker 1: ever since I can remember, but did not even attempt

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Speaker 1: to find my biological parents until twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I did not want to disrespect my adopted parents because

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Speaker 1: it would hurt them, even though they were encouraging.

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Speaker 3: Once she started looking, Andrew learned about her birth story.

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Speaker 3: Her mom got pregnant young and she wasn't married to

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Speaker 3: her dad, so she was forced to give Andrew up

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Speaker 3: for adoption.

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Speaker 1: And her dad, Dennis Brandenburg is my father.

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Speaker 3: Dennis Brandenburg is in Sandy's second husband, the professional gambler,

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Speaker 3: and the guy Steve thought was probably his father. Once

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Speaker 3: Andrey figured out that she was in Brandenburg, she started

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Speaker 3: finding his other kids. That's how she connected with Steve.

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Speaker 4: I found out I potentially had another sister through the

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Speaker 4: Brandenburg side.

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Speaker 3: They had a lot in common. Both were adopted, Both

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Speaker 3: waited in till later in life to seek their birth parents,

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Speaker 3: both figuring out where they fit into this world with

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Speaker 3: all this new information. Andrew had grown up as an

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Speaker 3: only child. She couldn't live one more minute not knowing

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Speaker 3: her brother.

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Speaker 1: Within forty eight hours, when I was on the road

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Speaker 1: in the door, ooh, I knew it was him. I

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Speaker 5: Was just like he's finally here.

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Speaker 1: All the anticipation had come forth, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: that he needed us.

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Speaker 3: As much as we needed him us as in the

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Speaker 3: other Brandenburgs. One of Dennis's daughters lives in Michigan and

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Speaker 3: his name Michelle.

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Speaker 6: I am the oldest one so far that we found,

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Speaker 6: and I'm fifty six, live in Fowlerville, Michigan, and on

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Speaker 6: a boarding kennel for pet's pep boarding kennel.

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Speaker 3: Andrew is on a mission to find as many of

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Speaker 2: She said, my name is Andrew. She said, I believe

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Speaker 2: we may have the same father. Would I be willing

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Speaker 2: to take a DNA test to see if we're related?

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Speaker 5: Sure? Why not?

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Speaker 2: And I've been riding this wave of response.

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Speaker 3: Andrew felt in her gut that she was a Brandyburg,

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Speaker 3: but she didn't have no proof. But Amy was definitely

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Speaker 3: got both sisters, Amy and Michelle to do their DNA

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Speaker 4: So she paid for everybody get a DNA test. Another sister,

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Speaker 3: Her DNA tests can be expensive, somewhere between fifty dollars

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Speaker 3: and a few hundred dollars Andrew wanted to pay. She

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Speaker 1: Everybody went like that day or the next day, and

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Speaker 1: we had to wait so much forever.

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Speaker 3: While they waiting, Andrew and Steve got to know each

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Speaker 3: other better. They didn't do anything fancy. They just went

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Speaker 1: We were supposed to be two nights and three days

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Speaker 3: After a few days the results came back. All four

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Speaker 1: The first results. I called Michelle and I'm like, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna believe this. I said, we're all sisters, but

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Speaker 1: Steve's not our brother.

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Speaker 4: And they were all connected to brandon Bury except me.

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Speaker 3: Steve was Sandy's son, but his dad was not the

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Speaker 3: gamble Dennis Brandenburg.

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Speaker 1: Our hearts broke.

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Speaker 3: This new stone, the test ruled out the only man

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Speaker 3: Sandy could remember being with around the time Steve was conceived,

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Speaker 3: but the test didn't say who his dad was. Steve

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Speaker 1: We were crushed because he is such a wonderful, wonderful person.

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Speaker 3: Steve was already wrestling with so much he wanted the

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Speaker 3: resented Sandy forgiving him away, even though he knew it

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Speaker 3: saved him from a lot of pain and it may

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Speaker 3: would have been an easier family for him to fit in.

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Speaker 3: But Steve was back to square one. He still didn't

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Speaker 3: family or keep looking for his biological father. My name

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Speaker 3: is Todd Matthews and this is Hello John Doe. A sleuth,

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Speaker 3: a family, and a serial killer. The story of a

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Speaker 3: them back together. Chapter nine, Finding his father. It's one

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Speaker 3: thing to learn you've been adopted late in life. Steve

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Speaker 3: new relatives like his sister Susie Sevegas and his nephew

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Speaker 3: Michael Hughes, but at the same time mourning their passing.

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Speaker 3: Ever since he learned he was adopted in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: Steve has tried to understand his origin story still unanswered questions,

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Speaker 3: he is and stand tall, but how can he when

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Speaker 3: there are so many unanswered questions? He was in the

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Speaker 3: fog through my years. In this work, I've seen myself

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Speaker 3: loss for years. I brought them closure. But there's a

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Speaker 3: big difference between Steve's story and the other cases I've worked.

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Speaker 3: Steve was alive, and because of how unique this whole

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Speaker 3: I can't heal Steve. I can't fix what Franklin Floyd did.

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Speaker 3: In a lot of ways, I'm woefully unequipped. But Andrea,

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Speaker 3: she reached step in a way I never could. In

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Speaker 3: long time. Andrew didn't want to end anyone by speaking up.

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Speaker 1: I just knew, you know, as a mall myself, that

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Speaker 1: it would probably hurt them, so I just let it go.

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Speaker 1: He might have been like me, you feel like that

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Speaker 5: And you hung the moon for.

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Speaker 1: That you were going to hurt them. You were going

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Speaker 1: to hurt their hearts. And I think that's what Steve

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Speaker 3: But waiting had consequences. Andrew's biological parents died before she

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, by the time I got there, you know, late

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Speaker 3: Andrew and Steve shared this profound thing in common. They're

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Speaker 3: But there's an important difference too, Andrew and you. She

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Speaker 3: experts call a late discovery adoptee. Anyone who finds out

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Speaker 3: That makes Steve a late discoverer. He only found out

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Speaker 3: in his teens. Experts say discovering your adoption later in

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Speaker 3: life can shatter your sense of who you are. Think

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Speaker 3: that's one thing. But finding out on the verge of adulthood,

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Speaker 3: it can make you question your whole damn childhood, and

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Speaker 1: I said, now here's the situation. I said. He is

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Speaker 1: Alison and Amy's brother. He is their half brother, but

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Speaker 1: Sandy at the time that Steve was born. So in

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Speaker 1: my eyes, there is no step no hives, no nothing.

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Speaker 1: He's our brother. And we agreed on that.

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Speaker 3: Andrea saw beyond blood connections and Steve. She saw a

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Speaker 3: had don anything for his kids or his girlfriend Jeanette's

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Speaker 1: I love him to death. I don't see any difference.

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Speaker 1: And I guess I could say that because I was

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Speaker 1: to understand that. And he's got you know, Janette's kids

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Speaker 3: Someone trecking through what may be the most challenging years

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Speaker 1: Amy messaged me and she's like, hey, what do you

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Speaker 1: Oh no, you're part of the party.

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Speaker 3: She said so herself. I was part of the party.

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Speaker 3: That was a good feeling. I felt a little awkward

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Speaker 3: This family don't always talk to each other. I became

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Speaker 1: I said, well, how'd your little session with Todd go?

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Speaker 2: She said, it went well, you went really well.

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Speaker 1: I said, what would y'all talk about? She said, just

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Speaker 3: Talk to each other?

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Speaker 5: Every day?

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Speaker 3: I know, but not about what you need.

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Speaker 6: To talk because she won't.

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Speaker 1: I guess she feels more comfortable talking to his stranger.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it is, and maybe you just need somebody that.

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Speaker 1: A million times.

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Speaker 2: We don't give a shit.

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Speaker 1: It's your past.

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Speaker 3: Look, I ain't a reporter. I never promised to keep

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Speaker 3: I really like Steve's family a lot. I can relate

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Speaker 1: Because Steve's story kind of started and has grown legs

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Speaker 3: All of you colorful people to start popping up definitely, well,

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Speaker 3: I mean I found you, you're not. This is a

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Speaker 1: This point, it's a little fun week.

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Speaker 3: I bet it. You've been at her all way.

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Speaker 5: Ye yes, since we got it.

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Speaker 1: We pulled in with Monday night on my birthday.

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Speaker 3: There was only one person missing, Phillip.

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Speaker 1: Steveh and Patterson. You should have had your butt here.

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Speaker 3: Steve had plans to be there. We texted a lot

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Speaker 3: in the weeks before the reunion, he was going to come,

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Speaker 3: but his excitement started to dwindle. He said he couldn't

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Speaker 1: Because your sisters love you. We love spending time with you.

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Speaker 1: The time that I got with him personally myself changed

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Speaker 3: That's why I felt like I have to come for it,

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Speaker 3: you know, I have to. I want to try to

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Speaker 3: take something.

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Speaker 2: Back to him.

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Speaker 3: I figured if I was there, I could share what

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Speaker 3: I've learned with him when he was ready to hear it.

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Speaker 3: That weekend, I spent time with his family, like Amy,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to free anything about this true.

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Speaker 2: I mean it has been. It's been awesome, just a

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Speaker 3: By the time I showed up, the sisters had been

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Speaker 1: We're like three peas in a pod. It doesn't seem

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Speaker 3: This was the first time they were all in the

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're all crazy as hell. If we want to

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Speaker 3: Watching them is like watching the litter of puppies play.

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Speaker 3: These sisters enjoyed the best part of siblinghood. No fighting

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Speaker 3: know you. There were three of them that weekend, all

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Speaker 6: When I saw her walk in, I was like, dang, yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's definitely a Brandenburg.

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Speaker 3: Amy and Michelle are practically identical, same laugh, same facial shape,

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Speaker 6: Once I met the Brandenburg, it's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 5: I think the way I do it.

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Speaker 1: It's like we're all thinking on the same wave pattern,

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Speaker 1: and it's amazing. I would have argued that environmental factors

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Speaker 3: Like close friends getting together after a long time, the

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Speaker 3: Brandenburgh spent a lot of time shooting a shit and drinking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my husband is heavy, head to hell.

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Speaker 3: That's a good thing, right. They even shared with me

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Speaker 3: the gifted Steve some Jack Daniels, but he wasn't there,

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Speaker 7: Don't let my husband think you make it good. You

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Speaker 7: know how to how to do it. You care now, Lock.

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Speaker 3: The weekend was very lighthearted, lots of laughter, lots of drinking,

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Speaker 3: teasing and poking fun, but there's no doubt there was

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Speaker 3: about the thread that ran through each of them. Dennis Brandenburgh. Michelle,

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Speaker 3: the sister from Michigan, was the only one to know him.

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Speaker 3: Meaning of all the people in Steve's orbit, she has

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Speaker 5: I was with my dad until I was two or three.

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Speaker 6: Two They were married for two and he was maybe

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Speaker 5: That was it.

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Speaker 6: So all when I was growing up, I wanted to

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Speaker 5: She just said he wasn't responsible and please, wait, two,

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Speaker 6: That's all because I didn't feel like to fit in

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Speaker 5: So that's probably what he's feeling.

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Speaker 3: She's talking about.

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Speaker 3: There, she finally met Dennis when she was a grown up.

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Speaker 5: I met him when I was twenty three.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to find him, so I knew him from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so even though she wasn't raised by him, she

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're little jealous. I would think they would be.

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Speaker 6: I would be just kind of bummed that they didn't

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Speaker 3: Amy didn't get any of this experience. Remember all of this,

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Speaker 3: She grew up thinking her dad died before she was born.

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Speaker 2: It made me start going, what was he?

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Speaker 5: What was for dad?

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Speaker 3: Like Dennis died in twenty nineteen, he'd been alive the

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Speaker 3: whole damn time. Steve showed her as a bitch Steve

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Speaker 3: brought her a piece of information that she didn't know

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Speaker 3: they were working together.

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Speaker 2: And then, like I said, I was hurt when I

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Speaker 2: Michelle says that, you know, he was mean, he was

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Speaker 2: I'm a little jealous, but it's not a mean jealousy.

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Speaker 2: It's like, so when she talks about him, I listened

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Speaker 3: There was something about the weekend that I felt like

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Speaker 3: weekend was about these sisters, now all grown up with

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Speaker 3: kids and grandkids of their own, choosing their own family.

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Speaker 3: For Andrea, that meant choosing Steve and wanting him to

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Speaker 3: know it.

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Speaker 1: It took me fifty three years, fifty four years to

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Speaker 1: know what that missing part of me was. It's given

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Speaker 3: Even Michelle, who had never even heard of Stephen, wanted

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Speaker 6: You're missing your sisters, Stephen, You're missing your sisters.

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Speaker 5: I don't care who your dad is.

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Speaker 6: You're our brother, You're Brandenburg, You're born of Brandenberg, You're Brandenburg.

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Speaker 5: End of the story.

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Speaker 6: Quit hiding, Come play with us, come hang out.

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Speaker 5: We're all family.

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Speaker 3: The brandon Burg sisters wanted embrace Steve with open arms.

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Speaker 3: They wanted him to jump into the d bend with them, drinking,

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Speaker 3: you know, what the hell, let's just FaceTime him, tell

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Speaker 3: him he should have been here.

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Speaker 7: Oh you do, I got just his way a woman.

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Speaker 7: You got got crapy on my ball for you, and

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Speaker 7: you didn't show off. Hey I drink it instead. You

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Speaker 7: just got off work. You're first supposed to be in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Over FaceTime, Steve seemed a little overwhelmed, but happy taking

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Speaker 3: the whole scene in.

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Speaker 7: There's your sister, Michelle. Hi boy, how are you good?

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Speaker 7: We miss you? You look good.

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Speaker 3: I know what you did too.

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Speaker 7: I said, you got a bunch of sisters, Whether you like.

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Speaker 5: It or not.

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Speaker 7: You the baby, we get to spoil you.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I want Steve to have this so much, to know

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Speaker 3: who his people were. I wanted to be a matchmaker,

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Speaker 3: not just for the dead, but for the living. Steve

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Speaker 3: was a lie. He could actually embrace the family. Never

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Speaker 3: knew that doesn't usually happen in my line of work.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the jack and coke blurred my judgment, or maybe

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Speaker 3: I just got carried away by the excitement of it all.

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Speaker 3: At some point during the weekend, the girls got another idea,

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Speaker 3: so they made plan to surprise Steve on his home turf.

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Speaker 3: And I was cautiously optimistic, but I was running ahead

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Speaker 3: of Steve. Usually that's a good thing. I could open

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Speaker 3: doors for him that were hard for him to open

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Speaker 3: by himself. Then he could catch up and walk through.

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Speaker 3: But what if he didn't want to walk through those

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Speaker 3: doors just yet? As much as he enjoyed talking to

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Speaker 3: the Brandon Burr sisters, what if he still needed to

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Speaker 3: forge on and find his birth father. And what if

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Speaker 3: he needed more time to come to peace with Sandy.

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Speaker 3: That's next time. On the finale of Hello John Doe.

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Speaker 1: It was just started out really good.

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Speaker 2: Well, it did not start out really good because I

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Speaker 2: said just ripped the banded off in brought her in

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Speaker 2: the roof, and some people were mad at me because

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Speaker 2: I did it that way.

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Speaker 1: He did not want to meet us and it was

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