1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: sixty five. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: We are part of the Action Network. 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Today we are joined by a very special guest, two 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: time Super Bowl champion, celebrated analyst and personality, a man 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: who makes everyone swoon. We will discuss NFL free agency, 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: NFL draft gambling on the NFL. I will introduce him 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: in a moment, but first I am joined by my 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: co host, my companion, Mike cam Padre My BFF, Professional Better, 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, Eero Soymn. 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: Hello, Chad, are we talking oscars today? Are we talking 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: actual NFL? 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: What are we doing? 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: We're talking actual? By the way, can I listen? I 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: do want to say that last week on the pod, 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: the most forceful stands we took, I believe I was 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: very adamant that Zone of Interest was going to win. 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 5: For sound I already regret. 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: It, and I was adamant Emma Stone was gonna win 21 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: for Best Actress. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: We cashed on both of those, but for But let's 23 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: get to our guests. Because our guest is Chris. 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Long, two time Super Bowl champion, number two overall pick 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: in the two thousand and eight NFL Draft, hosted the 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: very popular, explosively popular green Light podcast, which he records 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: from his fabulous hometown of Charlottesville, Virginia. Generally regarded by 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: Action Network as one of the best, nicest, most handsome 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: ex athletes working in media today. 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Also, by the way. 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: Brady gets in, you know, you can't really compete there. 32 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: You know what. 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: We don't even want Brady. Yeah, you know, we don't 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: want him. He's just going to bring us down. Chris, 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, dude. 36 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: I'll I'm so happy to be on. Let me say 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: this first. 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 6: I really do listen to y'alls pod and, like somebody 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 6: asked me the other day, like, what's the podcast you 40 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 6: listen to the most, And I gotta say, I don't 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 6: listen to a lot of podcasts, and sometimes I draw 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 6: a blank, But the answer should be y'all show the favorites, 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 6: because every week I'll kind of compare what I'm thinking 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 6: with what y'all are thinking. 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: I just really like the format of the show. 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 6: I think you guys do a great job, and I 47 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 6: enjoy gambling obviously, but also the oscars. Okay, sorry, sorry, Simon, 48 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 6: I gotta tea chat up for a second. God'silla minus 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 6: one won something. Visually, I think, right, yes, it had to. 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 6: It was one of the best, I don't want to overact, 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 6: one of the best movies I've seen the last ten 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 6: years in theaters. 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: It was incredible. 54 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: People love that movie one I think for effects and yeah, 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: it was one of those movies that everyone thought would 56 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: be campy and silly, but people actually totally loved it. 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: Blew me away. It blew me away. So and then 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: the zone of interest was that worth watching? It was good? 59 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's amazing. 60 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: Oh really, Okay, I got to watch it. 61 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: I mean watch it. 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: It's totally painful, it's gut wrenching, it's terrible, but like 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: it is an incredible movie. 64 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: Okay, it's great. 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: All right. 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: Every minute we're not we're talking about the movies we're 67 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: taking away from Simon getting to talk to you about 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: all things Philadelphia and South Jersey. But I will say 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: what's interesting is, and you've done this, I think better 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: than anybody as an ex athlete who has transitioned into 71 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: media authentically being interested in gambling. And so how did 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: that transition take place? 73 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: Well? I think you know, like you said it authentically. 74 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if you like to gamble, it's 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 6: going to come through in the content, right, like if 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 6: you really are you know, we get approached by gambling 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 6: groups all the time and and books to you know, 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 6: be sponsors or enter into partnerships, and we've had partners 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 6: and you know a lot of the times, you know, 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 6: I could see how this could go south where it's like, hey, 81 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 6: you have to hit all these markers as a former 82 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 6: athlete or a podcaster, and you know, you have to 83 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 6: cover a couple of you know, spreads you like this 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 6: week or sides or totals or whatever, and a lot 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 6: of times. 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: You can see that people are kind of going through 87 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: the motions with that. 88 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 6: I do feel badly when I give somebody the wrong side, 89 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 6: and I also I also am living it, so I think, 90 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 6: if anything, the biggest issue I have with gambling is 91 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 6: sometimes it can bleed into the way I talk about 92 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 6: a game as an analyst, because I am an analyst 93 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 6: first as a podcaster, but there's always that gambling sidebark 94 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 6: going on, and I'll be mad at a team, you know, 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 6: like because I'll be like, that was the right side, 96 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 6: and you guys didn't execute and that might bleed into 97 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 6: the way I talk about the game, but I think 98 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 6: people can feel that. You know, people love to have 99 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 6: a little something on the NFL and it helps when 100 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 6: they're tuning in, and you know, like the podcaster is 101 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 6: the same way. But I think it's also fun for 102 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 6: fans to be like, oh, the football players are like. 103 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: Us when they hang it up. 104 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 6: You know, they want to sit there with all the 105 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 6: games on, and they've got their fantasy they have their 106 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 6: prop bets, they have their sides they play. I got 107 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 6: the teasers, I got the parlays, I got all the 108 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 6: dumb stuff that people tell you not to do. It's 109 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 6: not just talking about gambling, but it's talking about in 110 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 6: a humanizing way that's like I'm not perfect, you know, 111 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 6: so buyer beware, but I do like to gamble, and 112 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 6: I will talk about it. 113 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of your show as well. I'm 115 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: always the Stanford Steve guy. Obviously grow up watching Scott 116 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: ben Pelt. So if you love Scott ben Pelt, you 117 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: probably love Stanford Steve. If you're a gambler, that's tenfold. 118 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: Stanford Steve was kind of the dirty little whisper on 119 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: ESPN and talking gambling before it was really cool and 120 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 3: you know, checking out your show. My biggest view of 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: you is I think most ex players, especially guys who 122 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: like for my group we do it, interact loud with 123 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: X and NFL players because they want they do buypicks 124 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: a lot of exit of want to win money. Eventually 125 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: they'll lose it themselves just because they think they have 126 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: the answers to the test, just because they've gotten picks 127 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 3: for a little while. And what I noticed was you 128 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 3: with You're kind of learning what to actually do, which 129 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: you bet unders. I kept talking all year about betting 130 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: these unders on the on the show, and I noticed 131 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: you you kind of realized picking sides was tough, and 132 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: you're like, I'm just gonna ride these unders for a 133 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: little while, and you got hot. I think you were 134 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: like ten and two at one point betting unders. And 135 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people can take lessons from 136 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: that where you adjust to what's happening at the time. 137 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 5: Right, So when you're viewing this, like what biggest lessons 138 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 5: have you. 139 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: Learned so far betting that early days, I've seen your 140 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: next player, you think you have the answers have you 141 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: learned now betting that you didn't have. 142 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 6: I think I'm constantly learning. I mean it's like I'll 143 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 6: learn things this year that I don't know yet. And 144 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 6: this is year five or six out for me, and 145 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 6: I've been gambling the whole time, and the thing is like, 146 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 6: you have to lose, you have to go through the 147 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 6: frustrating realization that yeah, you might know football really well, 148 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 6: but gambling is a different thing entirely. I mean, like 149 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 6: you put it in the context of the game, but 150 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 6: it's a game outside the game, and it is governed 151 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 6: by people that aren't football experts necessarily from an x's 152 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 6: and O standpoint, But they understand numbers, they understand trends, 153 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 6: they understand spots, they understand the context around each game. 154 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 6: And I think for me that's the really fun part, 155 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 6: you know, like talking to older gamblers who all have 156 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 6: theories and ways that they do things because there's no 157 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 6: right answer. 158 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: Everybody would be hitting it a sixty percent clip. 159 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 6: But there are little nuggets that I pick up from 160 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 6: all types of people, like, hey, you know, I got 161 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 6: a buddy, it's like division sandwiches, you know, things like that, 162 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 6: or you know, like there are people that prefer betting 163 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 6: live like they just don't bet sides before the game 164 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 6: they think it's profitable. 165 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: To get on the live betting. 166 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 6: Like that was a phase that I went through where 167 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 6: I realized that, like, hey, as a player, an advantage 168 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 6: I can gain is watching the first quarter of the 169 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 6: game and especially with totals, understanding what's going to happen 170 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 6: as the game opens up, and also feeling the flow 171 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 6: of the game from a pace standpoint, which is big, 172 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 6: Like that's a thing where I can apply my actual 173 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 6: expertise is like watching a game in real time and 174 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 6: hopping on these live totals or sides and betting teams 175 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 6: that are down you know, ten points, you know, taking 176 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 6: the more long shot bets. 177 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: Like as I've gone, I've. 178 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 6: Definitely like early in my career, I was big on 179 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 6: risk adverse things, you know, because you're like if I'm 180 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 6: risk adverse, they can't get me. You know, you're betting 181 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 6: favorites at these shitty money line numbers, and you're betting teasers, 182 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 6: and you're betting all this stuff that like it looks 183 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 6: good on paper, but you know how it is. It's 184 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 6: like mathematically, you're taking on a lot of risk and 185 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 6: eventually one of those is going to bite you in 186 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 6: the ass. So learning naturally to like take the plus 187 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 6: money stuff, lean in on the totals, and then more 188 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 6: than anything, like pace yourself through the year. You know, 189 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 6: if I'm out guns blazing early in the year. My expertise. 190 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 6: The great equalizer is nobody really knows what these teams 191 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 6: are going to look like and how these pieces are 192 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 6: going to fit and who's who's actually the cream that's 193 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 6: going to rise at the top. 194 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: Like in the playoffs this year, I think I went. 195 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 6: I mean, I think I was eighty five percent on 196 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 6: sides and I'm not tooting my horn, But what I 197 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: am saying is by the time the playoffs roll around, 198 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 6: I know what's going on because I've seen a full 199 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 6: sample size of these teams playing. And the less games 200 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 6: there are, the more you can really focus in. And 201 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 6: another thing I started to learn was like the smaller markets. 202 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 6: Man like hitting these smaller markets because the book's not 203 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 6: going to be as tuned in on some games that 204 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 6: aren't getting as much action. 205 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: And so. 206 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 6: Also avoiding the chase has been a big one for me. 207 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 6: Like I have an alter ego. We call it Chase 208 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 6: long and we have fun with it where it's like 209 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 6: you know, there'd be I'll never forget my maybe second 210 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 6: or third year out. I was down big for the 211 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 6: first time, and so what did I do. I waited 212 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 6: till Sunday night. I bet Tom Brady against the Saints 213 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 6: in a Buccaneers uniform, and I bet them money line 214 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 6: huge And you know, like what I've realized over the 215 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 6: last couple of years is that the Saints kind of 216 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 6: owned Tom Brady. You know, it's it, but it's it's 217 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 6: just trying to eliminate bad habits and be patient, man, 218 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 6: because I think that's the king for me is if 219 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 6: I'm patient and I'm week eight, I'm looking at my 220 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 6: ledger and I'm saying, oh, I'm plus money. 221 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: I'm good. Like then I'm going to be a better gambler. 222 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 6: But if I'm down a month into the season and 223 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 6: you're desperate, that's when you incur a lot of those 224 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 6: bad Chasey beats. Like you know, I'll never forget the 225 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 6: New England Chicago game where Justin Fields went off. I 226 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 6: picked the wrong week to fade Justin Fields, and I 227 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 6: did it spectacularly. Like stay out of those situations and 228 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 6: and learn how to lose. 229 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 4: You know, like at the end of the week. 230 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 6: If on my app I'm I'm in you know, I'm 231 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 6: in the red, then I need to just stop and 232 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 6: I can look at that zero on Monday and I'm 233 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 6: going to be a lot better gambler than I would 234 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 6: be on Sunday night chasing losses. 235 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's one of the biggest things, is 236 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: learning how not to chase comment and a question. 237 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, one. 238 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: You talk about being an ex player and being able 239 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: to understand, and you talk about being an analyst. First, 240 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: I remember listening to you and Kyle. It's fun. By 241 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: the way, Simon is a hardcore Philly guy. I am 242 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: a hardcore Chicago guy. So I like listening to you 243 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: and your brother on the Monday Live show during the season. 244 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: It's great. 245 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: And one of the things you guys were talking about 246 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: once it was right before the Eagles were playing the Niners, 247 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: and the Eagles had just had that. 248 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: Game against the Bills. You had a very specific. 249 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: Point about how hard it is to come back physically 250 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: and that literally every hour matters when you're playing, and 251 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: so that recovery time because they a late game and 252 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: then they went into overtime, all of a sudden, that 253 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: recovery time was going to matter, and you could see 254 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: that on the field that Sunday. Simon and I went 255 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: in so heavy on the Niners against the Eagle in 256 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: that game partially because of that analysis. So like, the 257 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: analysis plays into it. Second, but the question is you 258 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: were down big for a guy like Chris Long. What 259 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: is uncomfortable? 260 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: What is big? 261 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: Eight figures in a week? 262 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: You know, uh, eight figures in a week. 263 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: I'm joking, Nah, dude, By the way I listen, I 264 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: would know I'm really fucking around. 265 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 6: There's some people who are gonna be like, yo, he's 266 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 6: losing that much money. No, But like, honestly, you know, 267 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 6: some weeks I'm going to be down five figures, are 268 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 6: up five figures, you know. And that's just kind of 269 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 6: the way I look at it. Like, you know, it's like, 270 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 6: at the end of the season, my goal I set aside. 271 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 6: I set aside you know, mid five figures, and I say, 272 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 6: I don't want to be down more than this at 273 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 6: the end of the season. And if I can, if 274 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 6: I can kind of just keep an eye on that 275 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 6: number and actually gamble responsibly, which is like, hey, if 276 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 6: you're down, you don't chase you don't you don't you know, 277 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 6: you keep your units the same as much as you can, 278 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 6: you sprinkle in you have units for different kinds of bets, 279 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 6: Like my unit for taking aside is going to be 280 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 6: different than than betting a plus three fifty dog. 281 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: Like, you know, you just try to stick to a formula. 282 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 6: But yeah, like I have been down, you know, my 283 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 6: entire my entire you know, my entire nut or whatever 284 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 6: you want to call it, in an entire week, in 285 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: one week, and then that's where you got, Like that's when. 286 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: The crisis starts. And if it's week. 287 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 6: Seven, you're like, damn, dude, I almost I have to 288 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 6: pay up to feel like I'm I got a clean slate, 289 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 6: you know. But if I know I owe money, it's 290 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 6: like a totally different thing. So yeah, I'm never gonna 291 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 6: be I'm never making these enormous bets, Like I'll tell 292 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 6: you guys, just because like I probably put twenty on 293 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 6: the super Bowl, you know, like and I won. Uh, 294 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 6: And I was up because I was up about that 295 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 6: much during the playoffs, right because I was rolling. And 296 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 6: so like, if I feel very confident in something and 297 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 6: I know it's towards the end of the season, and 298 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 6: I'm up. 299 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: Then I'm going to manage the budget a little bit differently, 300 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: you know. 301 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 6: So I'm not one of these people who's like going 302 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 6: to the casino and betting five hundred thousand dollars on 303 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 6: a side. I mean that's like Floyd Mayweather or somebody 304 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 6: like that. Like, I still have a family to feed. 305 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 6: I kind of think about it, like if my wife 306 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 6: saw my balance, would she make me sleep in the RV? 307 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 6: And if I have that, if I kind of have 308 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 6: that that barometer for like, am I screwing it up? 309 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 6: And I think about my wife seeing the bets I'm making, 310 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 6: that's kind of like that's kind of like my conscience. 311 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: That's why Simon needs to get married so it can 312 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: help him better manage the amounts that he's betting on football. 313 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: Simon, can you name. 314 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: The fastest growing ticketing app in the United States? 315 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 5: Game Time? 316 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: That's right, It's game Time. 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You know, I 336 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: was a ESPN for years, and I did this story 337 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: about phil Ivey, who is considered the greatest poker player 338 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: who ever lived, one of the biggest gamblers who ever lived. 339 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: And my assignment was traveling around the world on phil 340 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: Ivey's private jet from Connecticut to Montreal to Austria while 341 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: he was gambling in various places. And I sat down 342 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: with him and I said, how much is uncomfortable? And 343 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: he looks at me and he goes ten million. So 344 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: you could say eight figures and it wouldn't be the 345 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: first time that I've heard someone say. 346 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: But you know, I think the key is it's like 347 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: what to me, I gamble. 348 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 6: I don't gamble to make money, like, yeah, I got 349 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 6: a stack of cash from the playoffs in Super Bowl 350 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 6: that I'm like, oh, I can do what I want. 351 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: I go. 352 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 6: I got this four wheeler I want to buy, Like 353 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 6: I'm going to go pay cash for that bad boy 354 00:16:55,280 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 6: or whatever. Now I know I can survive a lot 355 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 6: worse than that kind of loss. I played football for 356 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 6: a long time. I'm doing well. I haven't blown my money. 357 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 6: But the reason I gamble is not to like for 358 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 6: a source of income outside of football. I gamble for 359 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 6: a ton of different reasons. Number one, I like to compete, 360 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: Like that's it, you know, as I love to compete. 361 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 6: I love to feel live watching the games. And for me, 362 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 6: it's I almost enjoy chasing more than when I'm winning, 363 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 6: which is a it's it's a very interesting thing that 364 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 6: tells me a little bit about myself. Is like I 365 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 6: like a challenge, and uh so I almost have to 366 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 6: be more careful when I'm up in some ways because 367 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 6: I can just be like all right, well, uh and 368 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 6: you lose some of the enjoyment. But it's it's the 369 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 6: it's the competitive nature of it, and then it's also 370 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 6: the educational nature. It's a big challenge in saying like 371 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 6: I can I can learn this new skill, and it's 372 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 6: going to take me years. But you know, I'd like 373 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 6: to know the things that Steve knows. I like to 374 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 6: like know the things that y'all know. And then on 375 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 6: top of that, I'll put on games just to engage 376 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 6: myself in the game, you know, Like I really do 377 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 6: pride myself in Hey, if Chicago's playing Carolina on Thursday 378 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 6: night in Chicago this year, I'm. 379 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 4: Betting that game, by the way too and zero in 380 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 4: that game under easy under. 381 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 6: But it's one of those things where like, if I 382 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 6: have a little something on that game, I'm going to 383 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 6: be on the edge of my seat till midnight on 384 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 6: a Thursday night when a lot of the other analysts 385 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 6: are not watching, and that gives me an edge because 386 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 6: I've watched everything, even if I had to trick myself 387 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 6: into watching it. 388 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: As a reminder, the Favorites podcast is presented by North 389 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Carolina's newest sportsbook, BET. 390 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: Three six five. 391 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: Bet three six five doesn't do ordinary That's why you 392 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: get more boosts with them than with anyone else. 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If 408 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: you're in North Carolina, check out that link in the 409 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: episode description. 410 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: Simon, I know you want to jump in here. 411 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to pick back off a bunch 412 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: of stuff, Chris said, Where you know a lot of 413 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: stuff I do. 414 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 5: I joke with guys, I work with all of time. 415 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 3: That a lot of my sidework in the off seasons, 416 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: like Hitch, what for gamblers? Everyone remembers a movie Hitch 417 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: where he would try to help people dating. My job 418 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: is to try to talk to millionaires. So all they 419 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: do is lose money sports betting, and you know, guys 420 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: can do really well in the NFL season and then 421 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: come the end of March, madness, it's all golf, right. 422 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: That's that's the toughest part is to try to survive 423 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: that march. 424 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 5: And I thought it was funny. But if you're saying, Chris. 425 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: That I pitched to a lot of people that you 426 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: can easily do because you have money, is you just 427 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: get a second cell phone. And that's the move. Is 428 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: you get a gambling cell phone and you put it 429 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: away from you. If you have a if you have 430 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: a couple a couple of rounds with Devil's lettuce and 431 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: you're feeling really good and you're like, yo, this that's 432 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 3: good right now. Yeah, that's not a good bet. That's 433 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: that's the Devil's lettuce talk. 434 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 6: And so all right, one in the morning, man, I 435 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 6: it's the worst habit I have because I work at 436 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 6: night and then like I'll get in bed and I 437 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 6: got my phone, like all the wrong things to do 438 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 6: dopamine before you go to sleep, Like I got this 439 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 6: zen in, I've got the I got the app open, 440 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 6: and and I'm sitting there. And sometimes I'll wake up 441 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 6: two days later and put the same bet in again, 442 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: and I'm like, what the fuck was that? 443 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 4: You know? Like, like I'll forget I put the bed 444 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 4: in it one in the morning, so I got from me. 445 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 6: It's like avoiding the one am bets because I think 446 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 6: it'd be really interesting to chart myself, like by the 447 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 6: time of the day you put the bet in, how 448 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 6: do these bets actually play out? 449 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: That's a bad time to do. 450 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: It, I would say, Chad knows me, you know that professional. 451 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: I'll wake up and I'll take the wrong phone to 452 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: bed that has my apps on it and where I 453 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: text the wrong guys and I want to subconsciously do 454 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: especially people know that smoke. You'll wake up and you'll 455 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 3: say things to your partner in bed next to you 456 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: that you don't remember saying or doing. So I wake 457 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: up and check lines all the time while I'm half asleep, 458 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 3: Like I set alarms and do it during the season 459 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: and I've woken up to those exact text or bets 460 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: where it's just like, why did I love Pittsburgh so much? 461 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 4: Last night? When I run a. 462 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 7: App I figure to the other side, Oh, there's nothing 463 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 7: worse than a bad beat where you're like, oh, well, 464 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 7: at least what you know, Like I remember, I think 465 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 7: it was I forget which one it was. 466 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 6: It was, Oh, it was before I knew Antonio Pierce 467 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 6: was going to be the coach and the Giants were 468 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 6: going to Vegas. I had like bet that at one 469 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 6: in the morning one morning, and then I bet it again, 470 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 6: like you know, at noon later in the week, and 471 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 6: then you. 472 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 5: Get toot me to beat on the road. You were 473 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 5: sick in the head. 474 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was sick in the head, but you know, 475 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: like I get this. 476 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 6: Here's a question I have for you guys, is and 477 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: I hear you guys talking about this a lot. How 478 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 6: do you know when to fade the public and not 479 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 6: when to fade the public? Because last year I found 480 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 6: myself on the side of the public a lot, But 481 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 6: I also knew that I had different reasons than the public. 482 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 6: And I think sometimes we get in these oversimplified thought 483 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 6: patterns where you're. 484 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 4: Like or you just fade the public. 485 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 6: You fade the public, and you know, like I want 486 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 6: to take that icky stand, you know, like I want 487 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 6: to I want to walk out on the plank. But 488 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 6: then sometimes like with the Chiefs, this this this playoff. 489 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 6: You know, I noticed myself on the chief side when 490 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 6: it felt like that was the chalky side. But I 491 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: also felt like if you read online the perception of 492 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 6: the Chiefs, it actually wasn't that that high. So it's like, 493 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 6: how do you you know? And I'll get on Action 494 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 6: Network and I'm constantly charting, you know, splits and all 495 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 6: that stuff to see if hey like there is a 496 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 6: pattern as far as like the book winning or the 497 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 6: public winning week to week or what have you guys 498 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 6: found when it comes to you know that that instinct 499 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 6: to fade the public is it always? Is it always profitable? 500 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 6: And when are the right times to to fade yourself 501 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 6: in that thinking? 502 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's so much that goes into I think 503 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: it's it's a broad stroke statement right where it's like 504 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: there's a bunch of different factors and we're talking about 505 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: fading the public and this is just only friend of 506 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: all I'm talking but yeah, me too. The biggest thing 507 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: we're looking for, honestly, we're talking about fading in the 508 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 3: public is we know when me and chat are stepping 509 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: in it, and we're trying to talk ourselves not to 510 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: step in with the public like that that Ravens game 511 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: that's gonna haul me forever. That Ravens Chief game we knew, 512 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: we knew, and books were begging for mahomes money on 513 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: a plus five. Something was wrong, something something was broken, 514 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: And that's how Vegas makes their big win, right, Like 515 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: they might take a lot of little stabs on the 516 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: big you know that they happen to take fifty to 517 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 3: fifty bets on games, but those are their money makers, 518 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: right when everyone's on one side and everyone's walking right 519 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: into it. So that's definitely a clear spot of fading 520 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: the public. But we talked the Super Bowl is a 521 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: different beast, right, Like that's the public and the professionals. 522 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: If they line up all on one side, is that 523 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: the public side or is that just the books about 524 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: the taped You're right, so it is something the way, 525 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 3: But I think now the industry, it's just been watered 526 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: down so tremendously that if the Bears are on the 527 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: road and only ten percent of the people are betting 528 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: on them, and they're playing against knowing the Patriots with 529 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: Tom Brady at the time or whatever. It's like, yeah, 530 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: there's a reason. It's like, no one should be betting 531 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: on the Bears. They're about to lose by thirty points 532 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: and usually they would. So it is definitely about picking 533 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: your spots there where you just don't blindly do it. 534 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: Don't just blindly bet the fading the public. But it 535 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: is something where everyone's on this one side. You better 536 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 3: believe I'm not crossing six figures on the opposite side, 537 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 3: because that is This. 538 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: Was also a weird year because the public. 539 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: Yes, it was so good, is such a run, right, 540 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: and so Simon and I had a stretch where we 541 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: struggled in the middle of the year because we thought 542 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: we were playing the right sides against the public and 543 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: the public just that the public teams kept winning. And 544 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: also what happened was a lot of times this. 545 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: Year there were public docs And. 546 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: What's happening and bedding right now is the public is 547 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: getting so much smarter and they're understanding a little bit 548 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: of psychology that is in play with fading public perception 549 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: and fading your recency bias, so there's fewer and fewer 550 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: of those opportunities to get on the right side of 551 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: fading the public because the public is just getting so 552 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: much smarter at all of us. 553 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, really, I think recency bias is an interesting one 554 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 6: because generally there are ebbs and flows, and we know that, 555 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 6: like I've been on teams and you got to watch 556 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 6: for the hangover games where you know, you played really 557 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 6: well the last week and all that. But I also 558 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 6: think like when you pay attention to certain teams, like 559 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 6: they're not immune to those swings, but because of organizational 560 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 6: structure or the coach or the way they prepare, they're 561 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 6: a little bit more bulletproof. And you know, trying to 562 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 6: identify which teams are a little bit you know that 563 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 6: are a little yeah, bulletproof that way where it's like 564 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 6: I know that I should I got to trick my 565 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 6: own mind after I watch a team do something the 566 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 6: week prior. But there are some teams that are a 567 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 6: little bit different, right, And so I'm trying to you know, 568 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 6: I've been I've been kind of charting that as well, 569 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 6: and so far no avail. But I do feel like 570 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 6: there are some teams though that because of the quarterback 571 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 6: or because of what they have between the years. 572 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 4: You know, they are a. 573 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 6: Little bit more recession proof coming off a good stretch, 574 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 6: and it's trying to find it's trying to know when 575 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 6: to get off. 576 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 4: The bandwagon is hard, you know they do and when 577 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: do I hop off? 578 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: You had a h you told us a story. I 579 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: think a year or two ago one of the biggest 580 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: sweats you've had. 581 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 4: Was Minnesota Buffalo. 582 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: Oh no, I was thinking, I was thinking super Bowl 583 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: national anthem before you had to present. 584 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, of the Year. 585 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: But I can't remember all the details sort of what happened. 586 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 4: I just I've been out. Maybe it was my first 587 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 4: or second year out. 588 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 6: But like when you win Man of the Year, you're 589 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 6: down on the field, and if you won Man of 590 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 6: the Year, like the year before, you down in the field. 591 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 6: And I think I was down in the field to 592 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 6: present to maybe Kalais Campbell, to like pass the trophy 593 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 6: to him. 594 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: Great guy, was so excited to do that. 595 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 6: But you know, me, like I'm there Saturday outside the stadium, 596 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 6: I'm listening to soundcheck and like, you know, I want 597 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 6: I want to. 598 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: Get on it. 599 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 6: It's a little frustrating and you understand why that they 600 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 6: capped these these props because it is so easy. I'll 601 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 6: out of the Gatorade and that sort of thing. When 602 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 6: you saw the odds for the Gatorade bath this year, 603 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 6: Like obviously there's inside information that gets out. But I 604 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 6: had bet the anthem and I'm sitting there on sideline 605 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 6: next to Toronto Armstead and this is this just kind 606 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 6: of illustrates the dichotomy between active player and retire player. 607 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 6: Is He's looking at me, and I've got a timer 608 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 6: on my phone during the national anthem, I'm looking down. 609 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 6: I got my hand over my heart, but I'm like 610 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 6: peering down and I don't know if he thinks I 611 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 6: got a fucking bomb in my pocket or what, like 612 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 6: like i gonna do something crazy, like what is this 613 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 6: guy doing? And the national Anthem finishes and I win 614 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 6: the bet and I'm just ecstatic, and he's like, man, 615 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 6: you're like you miss playing or you know what's going on? 616 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 4: And I'm like, nah, dude, I'm betting. 617 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 6: The anthem, like I'm if it goes over a certain time, 618 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 6: you know, I win money. If it goes under, you know, 619 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 6: I lose the money. And he's like, I didn't know 620 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 6: you could do that. I'm like, just wait until you retire. 621 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 6: There is a lot you can do that you have 622 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: no idea about yet. 623 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: And so I think that's the fun thing. 624 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 6: When I was a player, I was always cognizant of gambling, 625 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 6: not NFL gambling. I didn't really know the lines like that, 626 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 6: like you know, famously, when we were underdogs, I just 627 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 6: knew we were under dogs because I went to look. 628 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 6: I want, I wanted to look and see, you know, 629 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 6: but I never during an NFL season knew what the 630 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 6: line was, you know, because obviously there's nothing in it 631 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 6: for us, and you know, who gives a shit. 632 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 4: But college football. 633 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 6: I'd walk around the locker room and try to find 634 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 6: takers on little, you know, one hundred dollars bets. You know, 635 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 6: we'd be out to dinner or whatever, and you know, 636 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: you got guys. 637 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: That don't understand gambling. 638 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 6: So like a guy might not he would say I 639 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 6: don't do that spread stuff like okay, So I wait 640 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 6: until his team's a favorite, his alma mater, and then 641 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 6: you know, I'd come up to that guy and be like, yo, 642 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 6: straight up, you know, I like, you know, I like 643 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 6: Ohio State this week or whatever, it is, and and 644 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 6: so it just illustrates like the education on the gambling 645 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 6: side for players, contrary to you know, the belief probably 646 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 6: in the wake of like the Jamison Williams and Calvin 647 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 6: Ridley thing like those are anomalies guys that now. The 648 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 6: difference is now from when I played to now is 649 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 6: the app apps, you know, like and just the way 650 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 6: the leagues. The leagues really embraced it. So I do 651 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 6: think you're going to get some dumb kid every once 652 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 6: in a while that doesn't realize he can't bet an 653 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 6: app or bet in certain places or bet on certain sports, 654 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 6: and that's part of it. And the NFL has got 655 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 6: to make examples of those guys. But I think for 656 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 6: the most part, the NFL effectively keeps those guys out 657 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 6: of the weeds, because I can tell you it's just 658 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 6: not a culture that exists in the NFL. I think 659 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 6: more Nathan guys like to play cards and bou rat 660 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 6: and craps, and you've heard about all those games on 661 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 6: planes and all that stuff and the amounts of money 662 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 6: people lose. Like I was never a card guy. I 663 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: always sit in the back of the plane and I 664 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: say hey, y'all because if I'm going to lose money, 665 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 6: I want to I want an experience, you know, I 666 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 6: don't want to lose it playing blackjack in five seconds. 667 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 6: I was in Vegas at the High Limit Room with 668 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 6: SVP and and Steve and a couple guys, and I 669 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 6: was kind of banged up. 670 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 4: But this illustrates the way a guy gave me like 671 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: a seven and I stayed. 672 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 6: You know, I was playing. I was playing the day 673 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 6: before with Thom Segura and those guys, and they were 674 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 6: like launching their Vodkan. There's a bunch of the men there, 675 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 6: Bert Kreischer, and I'm sitting at their table and I 676 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 6: hit on like fifteen and the whole fucking table gasped, 677 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 6: like what is wrong with you? 678 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: And I think it was a six, and so like, 679 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 4: I'm just not a I'm not a table guy. 680 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 6: I'm not I. If I'm gonna lose five grand I 681 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 6: want to sit for three hours and sweat it, you know, 682 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 6: like it makes me feel alive. I do not feel 683 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 6: alive when I walk out of a casino and I 684 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 6: and I'm lighter, you know. 685 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: I agree. 686 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: And now a word from our sponsor Factor Eating better 687 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: is easy with Factors Delicious ready to eat meals. Every fresh, 688 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: never frozen meal is chef crafted and ready to go 689 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: in just two minutes. 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Yeah, Simon, do you want to kick off? 708 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: The Fletcher Cox questions, or do you want me to 709 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: go for it? 710 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: You fire away as long as you make sure to 711 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: bring up that they used to always stand next to 712 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: each other. 713 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 4: I think that's where he wanted to go. 714 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: There's no elegant way to get into it. 715 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 5: It was one of the greatest things in sports, dude. 716 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 6: I mean when we first met, I loved the guy, 717 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 6: like we just we just hit it off, man, you know, like. 718 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 4: I just loved the dude. Man. 719 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 6: You know, you got some teammates who you connect with immediately, 720 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 6: Like Lane Johnson was one for me, you know, like 721 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 6: I still I talked to Lane yesterday. 722 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 4: We'll FaceTime each other every couple of days. Just hey, 723 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: what are you doing? 724 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 6: Man? 725 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 4: You know the whole thing. 726 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 6: Fletch was the same kind of guy for me and 727 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 6: where I was in my career. You know, I had 728 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 6: never been Fletch, but I used to be a guy, 729 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 6: you know, like one of the guys. And now I'm 730 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 6: on a team as an aging veteran, and I need 731 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 6: this guy right for me to have a good stop 732 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 6: in Philly. We got to work well together, we got 733 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 6: to get along, and so you never know when you 734 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 6: roll up to a new team. You kind of you 735 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 6: eye up the room and you see the personalities. And 736 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 6: I got to say this, when I walked in that 737 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 6: room in twenty and seventeen, I knew I had a 738 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 6: steep climb to like gain respect and reps and all 739 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 6: that sort of thing. But I had the right guys 740 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,439 Speaker 6: in the room, man, Like I didn't have to worry 741 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 6: about being too much of a leader, you know, I 742 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 6: could kind of assume that responsibility naturally organically. I knew 743 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 6: that on the field because Fletcher is so unselfish and 744 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 6: so cool that like, we're going to work well together, 745 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 6: He's going to be unselfish, like he's going to run 746 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 6: games that are that help other people. You know, like 747 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 6: a lot of times Rushers they're very selfish, like they're 748 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 6: looking at that number, and we can be that way 749 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 6: because our professional career, you know, hinges on that number. 750 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 6: And but Fletch was never insecure. Fletch was always he 751 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 6: was willing to help other people. Me and bo Allen 752 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 6: were just talking about this the other day when he retired, 753 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 6: because together there's nobody and I tweeted this, that made 754 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 6: people better around him more than Fletcher, and that included me, 755 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 6: you know, like in my two year stop, I get 756 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 6: very celebrated for being a role player there that came 757 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 6: in and did my job at a high level when 758 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 6: I was called upon. If there was no Fletcher, it's 759 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 6: not the same way. He was just so great to 760 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 6: rush next to. He was accommodating and if you're smart, 761 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 6: you know how. 762 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 4: To eat off that guy. 763 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 6: And he never had a problem with other people getting credit. 764 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 6: He was old school when he was in his prime. 765 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 6: Somebody's asking me about the D line last year versus 766 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 6: the D line in twenty seventeen. 767 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 4: And two years ago. 768 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 6: The contention was that D line was a lot better, 769 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 6: and probably so, but they also had better coverage on 770 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 6: the back end. But there was one big difference between 771 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 6: that seventeen team and the D lines over the last 772 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 6: two years. Is Fletcher Cox in his prime. And I 773 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 6: thought Fletcher had a great year this year, and I 774 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 6: think a lot of props to him for going out 775 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 6: on top because he played really well. But that guy 776 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 6: in twenty seventeen was out of the nineteen nineties, and 777 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 6: the way the game is today, guys have not as 778 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 6: they've adjusted and the games change. 779 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 4: The physicality is different, the body types are different. This 780 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 4: guy could have. 781 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 6: Been on a team in nineteen ninety six from a 782 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 6: run game standpoint, from a physicality standpoint, and the explosiveness 783 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 6: to go rush the passer. So complete player, awesome person, 784 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 6: and he went out on top and I got to 785 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 6: mention BG two because he's going to get another year. 786 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: That was another guy for me that made my life easy. 787 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 4: You know, Like I'm a left end. 788 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 6: BG can play both sides, he can play inside, he 789 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 6: can play out. If I play right end, I look drunk. 790 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 6: I go over to the left end. And it's not 791 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 6: the easiest thing in the world for BG to have 792 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 6: to give up his spot because this is where we're 793 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 6: going to be the best with this combination of rushers 794 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 6: on third down. 795 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 4: But he never blinked. He was always like, you want. 796 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 6: To rush over here, You rush over here, Chris, I'll 797 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 6: rush inside, and we'd run games the same way, or 798 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 6: he'd play right end, and he was just so unselfish 799 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 6: show you know. I think what goes into a great 800 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 6: defensive line is not just the players, but it's the 801 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 6: connection and it's the personality. And I can tell you 802 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 6: whether me and Fletcher Cox would take the field. I 803 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 6: wanted to go to the limit for him, and he 804 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 6: wanted to go to limit for me, and BG want 805 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 6: to go to limit for me, and vice versa, and 806 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 6: Vinnie Curry and those guys like we had a very 807 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 6: strong social connection that I think people overlook sometimes when 808 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 6: there's a group of personalities, whether it's a wide receiver 809 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 6: room or a defensive line room. They might all be 810 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 6: great players, but can they click together? And that's the 811 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 6: invisibility of trying to evaluate going into a season. This 812 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 6: team looks really strong here, but if they're all individuals, 813 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 6: or they don't mesh well together, or like Jacksonville for instance, 814 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 6: just popped into my head with the wide receiving core, 815 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 6: if they all are slot receivers, then that's going to 816 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 6: be a problem. And eventually it's going to rear its 817 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 6: head and it's gonna hurt Calvin Ridley's development. It's going 818 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 6: to hurt you know, all these guys developments. So I 819 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 6: think the fits really important, but also the people. And 820 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 6: Fletch was one of the best people I play with. 821 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just close the loop for saying as an 822 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 3: Eagles fan, it was it was sad. 823 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 5: It was a sad week. Kelsey News Hawks. Yeah, it's 824 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 5: like as a as a city. 825 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 3: We latched in these guys who just worked really hard, 826 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: and you know, every personality is welcome, from the crazy 827 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: type of Dawkins to beg who is just one of 828 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: the funniest, most big loving dudes ever. But he had 829 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: to earn it, Like we did not love him right away. 830 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: That's just how he is where he was successful and 831 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 3: then you know, now he's our longest tenured vet. It's 832 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 3: just funny how things come full circle. So yeah, Pitter British, 833 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 3: But you also mentioned Lane Johnson's name, so it's just 834 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 3: an easy opening for me to bring up the town 835 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 3: of Morstown where Lane Johnson. I don't know if he 836 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 3: still lives there he used to. I don't know if 837 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 3: you know this, Chris. I grew up actually in Morristown 838 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 3: and my wife did, yes, And that's that's the funny 839 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 3: connection where I knew Megan. I was younger obviously than her, 840 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 3: but she was obviously your wife is very beautiful. I 841 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 3: was like looking up to this beautiful senior who was 842 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,959 Speaker 3: Joe's older sister. It made me think of a funny 843 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: story of Joe who was two years older than me. 844 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 3: So you know it is back in the day when 845 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 3: you were in high school, Like when the older kids 846 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: would invite you out on an L ride, you would 847 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 3: take the L ride. You'd be like, Oh, I get 848 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 3: to hang out the older kids. So I wasn't really 849 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 3: a smoker. Then again, I was young, So I was 850 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 3: losing my mind in the back of this car and 851 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 3: we're riding around this neighborhood and we pull up and 852 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 3: who is a but Joe O'Malley shooting free throws in 853 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: his driveway. And he walked out to the car, hit 854 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 3: the l a couple of times and had a small 855 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: talk with the dudes about the party that weekend. And 856 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: it was like a days and confused moment. I was like, 857 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 3: these are the coolest people in the entire world. Yeah, 858 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 3: smoking it on their driveway and broad but you mean 859 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,479 Speaker 3: you cracked them up when it was like, I can't 860 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: believe that's Megan. Like I couldn't believe that was your wife, 861 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 3: just because you know, I have a different perspective. I 862 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 3: knew when she was mad young. Yeah, she was obviously 863 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: great athlete. So like you and keep having kids, man, 864 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: you're having just pumping out d one athletes. 865 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 6: Hey Cutler asked me last night, he was like, Yo, 866 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 6: who do you think has the best chance of having 867 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 6: a professional athlete in the family. I was like, well, 868 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 6: Kyle's the genetic freak in our family. 869 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 4: Like, it's not even close the physical ability this guy has. 870 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 6: Now he has two girls right now, and now I 871 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 6: think they have a great chance of being professional athletes 872 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 6: just off the strength of his geneticism. But I say 873 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 6: that my ace in the hole is my wife is like, 874 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 6: I mean she's a dog dude, Like, like, not only 875 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 6: is she a great athlete, but she will try to 876 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 6: kill you to win and like and like, really we 877 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 6: have gotten more arguments over like competitive stuff than like 878 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 6: relationship stuff. I remember our honeymoon. We were somewhere and 879 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 6: there was nothing to do, so we went out and 880 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 6: played tennis, right because she likes tennis a little bit, 881 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 6: and at that age I was it didn't hurt to 882 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 6: run around. 883 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,959 Speaker 4: So we were playing full court tennis because I didn't 884 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 4: know the rules. 885 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 5: What is this college name first met her? 886 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 4: No, this is like our honeymoon. This is like my 887 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 4: seventh year in the league. 888 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 6: This is right before we go to some island and 889 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 6: they got a tennis court and nobody's out there. 890 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 4: Neither of us really knows the rules of tennis. Now 891 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 4: she's really into it. 892 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 6: But we played full court like, you know, like everything 893 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 6: was in bounds, from whatever you want to call those 894 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 6: alleys to the little two boxes in the front, like 895 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 6: listeners were thrown up in their hands. But we just 896 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 6: played like and we'd play for hours and every game 897 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 6: would end in a fight where we wouldn't talk the 898 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 6: rest of the day. Like we'd be up in Montana 899 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 6: at my parents' house today a little tennis court, and 900 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 6: I had to sign a contract and put it on 901 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 6: the fridge and make her sign it, and it's. 902 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 4: Written, I'm Megan Long. 903 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 6: Will not take losses, i will stop being a sore 904 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 6: loser on vacation. And she had to sign it and 905 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 6: it's still in the fridge from ten years ago, you know, 906 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 6: because literally she would stomp off the court. 907 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 4: So I got that working for me. She's a great athlete. 908 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 6: I got two young sons, eight and five, and then 909 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 6: I've got an eight month old girl who looks like 910 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 6: she's gonna give me a scholarship and softball I'm hoping 911 00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 6: or something like that. 912 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 4: So you know, you just hope for the best. 913 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 6: I grew up with a dad who played, And obviously 914 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 6: there's a lot of expectations and pressure that I don't 915 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 6: want all my kids. And you know, I don't know 916 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 6: how much of that I can control, but I can 917 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 6: control not making them feel like they got to be 918 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 6: me or they got to be athletes. Like I just 919 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 6: want my kids to be good, hard working, down to 920 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 6: earth people. 921 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 4: Hey, and if you're gonna play sports, you better be 922 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 4: a killer, you know what I mean. 923 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 6: And you better be a worker, because that's the way 924 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 6: my dad talked to me, was like, if you're going 925 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 6: to do this, you don't have to do this. But 926 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 6: whether you're going to be a rocket scientist or a 927 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 6: football player, nobody, I don't want to see anybody out 928 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 6: working you. And that's that's what I'd like to instill 929 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 6: my kids. And hopefully if I can do that, maybe 930 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 6: they'll pay for some of my gambling habits later in life. 931 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 5: They will. 932 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 3: And you're in a game the genetic gold mine of 933 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 3: you and Megan Man, That's what I'm saying. 934 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 5: Even if they even if. 935 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: They aren't right all you say you want them to be, 936 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 3: they're going to be such freak athletes. 937 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 4: That's what. Yeah. 938 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 5: Hopefully you know you hit a home run picking the 939 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 5: right woman hopefully. 940 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 6: Man, that's so funny. It's such a small world thing. 941 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 6: But yeah, she was an Eagles fan growing up. 942 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, I used to call Doug Peterson mister Peterson, bro, 943 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 3: like I knew Drew Peterson. So I am as mister 944 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: Peterson before he was Doug Peterson, which is always weird. 945 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 4: Well more sounds a great town man. And Lane does 946 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 4: live there. 947 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 6: And I come up for Inside the NFL all year 948 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 6: this year and literally the first place I go is 949 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 6: I'd have my driver because I'd get a driver up. 950 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 6: It's four hour drive. I would go straight to Lane's 951 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 6: house and like, you know, me and Lane on Monday nights, 952 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 6: like I miss that, I miss my friends, and like 953 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 6: I met, he knows I understand him and I and 954 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 6: and he understands me. And you know, watching him sit 955 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 6: there at ten at night and with the treatment stuff 956 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 6: on and he's spending every waking minute trying to get 957 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 6: ready for games, it just reinforces. Like you come out 958 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 6: of it, you're like, damn, we worked hard, and nobody 959 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 6: works hard in Lane and watching him every Monday night, 960 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 6: whether it's nine o'clock, ten o'clock, whenever I pull up, 961 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 6: he's taking like electrodes off of him, or he's got 962 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 6: his feet in cold water, he's watching film with like 963 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,959 Speaker 6: virtual reality. Gag goes on like doing five things at once. 964 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 6: Nobody works harder than the lane. So just awesome dudes, man. 965 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 6: And it is hard for Eagles fans because these guys 966 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 6: are turning over and now this puts a lot of 967 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 6: pressure on guys like Jalen Carter. In my opinion, who 968 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 6: Jalen Carter to me can be a Hall of Famer 969 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 6: like easy, It's up to him. And so for guys 970 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 6: like that, they have to look at this as an 971 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 6: opportunity and also a responsibility to be the next Jason Kelsey, 972 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 6: to be the next Fletcher. You're gonna see these guys 973 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 6: matriculate and you kind of lose not only the players 974 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 6: with the leadership. 975 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: Well listen, I wish Jalen Carter had fitted out the 976 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: year strong so we could have won our Jalen Carter 977 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: wins Defensive Player of the Year. 978 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 4: He's the best defensive player of the year. 979 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 2: He was great. 980 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 4: But you can sell that. You can't sell that defense 981 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 4: is too bad. 982 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: We got we gotta let you go. But I think 983 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna want you back. We're gonna want Kyle. We're 984 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: gonna have one to have a Chica, I'll go Philly Showdown. 985 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: Plus we have about eighty five trivia questions for you 986 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: about playing in the NFL, for you, your father, your brother, 987 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: but for now, brother. 988 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 2: This was great. 989 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 4: All. 990 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: Likewise, be sure to catch our next episode of The 991 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: Favorites live on the Action Network YouTube page every Tuesday 992 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 1: one forty five pm Eastern. 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