WEBVTT - 7_31 Talkin Cowboys.mp3 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:05.320 The following. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.360 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.040 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.120 Cowboys. 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:18.439 This He's Talking Cowboys Training live. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:26.320 From Dallas Cowboys Training Gap in Oxnard, California. Six scot 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:32.159 tisicks any contents, tosdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:37.040 Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:44.680 For the first time in the twenty twenty five NFL season. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.199 It is a full crew of Talking Cowboys, presented by 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.960 Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from Oxnard, California and the 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.360 River Ridge Sports Complex. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.320 Are we cheersing? Is that what it is? Cheersing the 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.080 microphoneb I mean once we get back home. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.000 We did do it the first time across MIC's. 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:09.520 And yet it is because what what do you what? 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:15.880 This guy listen, this guy's up always. I can't wait 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.319 to attack the twenty twenty five season with you guys. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:20.760 This is a great way to start it. 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.560 We've got training camp practice today. The pads are coming 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.360 back on after the day of shells yesterday. Here's the thing, though, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.959 what's the thing Cowboys jacket? Cowboys shirt? 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:37.440 Cowboys? What is Isaiah wearing there? What does that say? 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:38.440 Oh? 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.679 You got the shorts on? Did you just flash our views? 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:43.480 I didn't know what this was going, but I'm glad, 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:47.080 glad where it ended. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.200 He's got an NFL Network quarter zip on. That's partially 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.240 why he hasn't been here up until. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:58.480 Why aren't you wearing the pants sorry, the short pants 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:00.320 suit that you were wearing yesterday. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.160 Because I ready wore it. Once you wear you can't 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:08.160 wear it again. Absolutely, that money, you can't have money. 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:14.200 He gave it the Beamer Beamers wearing it tomorrow, Beamers 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:15.200 rocking shorts today. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.880 If only you guys could see Beamers strut right now. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.240 So I have on quads out as what these guys 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:21.560 are referring to. You know, it's. 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.440 It's it's the season for quads out. You understanding what 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.480 I'm saying. I can't really say. I really want to 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:27.679 say that. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:29.560 I was like, he's going there. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:34.080 And today was international No Johnny Brovo day, No Johnny, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.040 No Johnny Brable, you remember you know who know Johnny? 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.280 Why would it be Johnny Brobo day? That means it's 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.440 leg day. That means it's leg day. Okay, Johnny Bravo 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.480 was top heavy. He looks like a water burger. Cup 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.480 can relate. Yes, yeah, got that water Burger Cup build 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.679 people like, say, five hundred yards of lunches today for 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:53.280 those that want to. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.919 Five hundred, five hundred dardsnod respect, I refuse when I 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:05.960 friends the cowboysfully the clin all right, the cowboys. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.440 The cowboys are indeed working today. 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:13.280 And I want to start by one some news and 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.359 notes from Patrick Doncy Walk because this injury list is 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:18.119 starting to grow. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.280 I don't like not just grow, but grow concerning times. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.079 Yeah, Patrick, what if we just ignored it? 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:25.840 It doesn't make it go away. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.560 It's it's not an out of sight, out of my 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:30.760 type deal prow. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:31.040 Yeah. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.880 I still gotta gotta get back to the field, Okay, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.680 and so it goes. It's not entirely bad, not great though. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:41.160 Let's start with the offensive line. Obviously, the worst of 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.280 them is Rob Jones. Offensive lineman Rob Jones suffered a 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.880 fracture in his neck. He will be out for two 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:51.320 to three months. Expectation is mid season. Barneyy setbacks. Also 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.360 on the offensive line, Tyler Geiton, as we all know, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.200 had the scare with the A C. L. It is 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:01.120 in fact intact four to six weeks is the prognosis, however, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.120 shot he got to the podium yesterday and said something 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.600 very interesting, said that it could quote unquote be a 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.280 couple of weeks. It just depends on how the knee 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:14.840 reacts to the rehab and how aggressively without forcing a setback, 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.680 Tyler got attacks his rehab. So as it stands, there's 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:20.840 still a very good chance that Tyler got In will 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.799 be on the field against the Philadelphia Eagles. Terrence Steele 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.760 battled an ankle sprain henkle sprain earlier practice, but he 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.120 has returned a few days ago as a matter of fact, 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:30.680 so again it's not all bad news. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.000 There's some good news. He returned, Yeah, he did. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.280 Running backs room. Only one injury to report, which is 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.560 Deuce Vaughan. He is battling the hamstring injury. Obviously, that 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.200 is very key. Forduced. This is another training camp in 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.839 which he's given an opportunity to prove himself on the field, 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.000 but unfortunately, another training camp in which he is battling 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.600 injury that is deleting much needed reps for the young 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.080 running back in a room that you know, let's be honest, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.600 they're trying to figure out who's going to take the 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:58.760 lead and that could be plural. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.720 Okay in the room. Brevin span Ford undisclosed leg injury. 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.400 He's out for two to three weeks, so he'll likely 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.240 miss the entirety of the preseason, but the great shot 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.720 of being back in time to be TE three and 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.880 challenge Luke school Maker, who looks great by the way 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:19.680 for some TE two snaps. Wide receiver Paris Campbell undisclosed 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.520 knee injury to be determined on him. We haven't gotten 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.520 a proagnosis on Paris Campbell, but I will say it 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.960 didn't look promising. I'm not going to say it's worst case. 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.720 A m C IF. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.880 If that's what you heard, I think it may have 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.760 been unreported, but I think MZL was the rumor. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.159 At least it may have been reported. 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.800 Listen, Kyler is a credible source. Let's go with an 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.039 Claris Campbell. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:40.359 I'm not trying to report anything. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.480 I'll confirm it. I'll confirm it as it stands. It 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.920 is a knee injury. Nonetheless, however you slice it. Timeline 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:51.200 for return is TBD. Cornerback's Room, KAILN. Carson No, stop it, yeah, can't, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.200 can't stop it. Cornerbacks Room in dire straits getting more 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.360 so Kayln Carson stuff for the hyper extended knee. He 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.760 will miss four to six weeks. There's a chance he 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.080 is back for the opener, maybe Week two home opener 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:09.400 against the Giants. But a room that's poor in determined 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.880 depth gets a bit poor. Shouts out to kyer Elim. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.880 He's taken some strides. Andrew Booth had the best practice 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.680 of his camping. In the next practice he left with injury. However, 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.719 Andrew Booth was back on the field yesterday in Shells. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:24.279 I talked to. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.120 Andrew Booth yesterday kind of off the record. I asked 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:28.760 him how he's feeling. He said he feels great. It 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.680 was just something that nagged him a little bit. He 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.320 got it worked out. He said, he's a full goal. 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.160 We'll see if that's the case when the pads come 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:39.320 back on today. Safety one yea Thomas leg injury, no brace, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.280 no device, But he's not returned to practice yet, so 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:43.000 I'm not sure if. 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.640 That's a soft tissue injury or whatnot. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.240 But would love to see one year back out there 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.400 sooner than later, considering his versatility is on full display 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.120 and they're gonna need him both as a safety safety 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.599 depth piece, but also you see. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.760 Him taking some snaps at Nickel corner as well. So 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.800 let me just put this this way, leading into my next. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:05.520 Yes, really quickly, they did sign. They did sign Christian Matthew. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.960 He's reuniting with Matty Eberfluss. They spent a short time 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.320 together in Chicago at cornerbacks. So there's another body coming in. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.480 What does that mean as far as what Matthew can do? 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.840 We'll see you want for like those eleven or twelve injuries, Yeah, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:18.320 the way. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.000 But here's the thing that leads into my next question 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:26.600 is we've been through seven practices, seven practices, and yet 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.000 there's a list of ten to eleven twelve players with injuries, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.160 an active injury list where guys are not in practice, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.000 off guys. 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.160 About eight or nine guys long. 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.000 The physicality that Brian Schotenheimer wanted to establish, the physicality 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.600 that he said this camp was going to be known for, 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.040 we've seen it. We've seen it with the scuffles, We've 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.280 seen it with the padded practices, we've seen it with 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.120 the different drills along the way. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.400 Josh, is this still a good thing because of the 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:56.880 injuries that are starting to ramp up. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.560 I mean, I know you want to be physical, you 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.560 want it to be a tough training camp to get 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.840 you ready for the season. But right now, with this 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.920 injury list growing, is the physicality taking a toll. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.080 I think a lot of the rust is falling off. 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:14.080 Obviously, whenever you're thudding up, when you're patted up, you're 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.920 giving yourself an idea of what it's going to be 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:18.840 like on the field. Not that these players need a 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:22.000 reminder of that, but you need that physicality. You need 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.120 that mixed with the discipline that coach Schottenheimer's trying to instill. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:27.560 The more you're able to do that, the hardened you're 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.080 going to get on the field. I don't know this 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.760 from experience. I know Isaiah will have much more insight 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.599 into this, but when we talked about it, it's like 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.079 it's such a far cry from what practices used to 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.959 be when you used to be in pads twice a day. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.920 The more you're doing this, the more often you're thudding up. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:47.000 Any closer you get to the simulation of an actual game, 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.360 the better these things are going to happen. Regardless if 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.160 it's here or during a game, people are going to 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:53.720 get hurt. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.520 That's the fact of the matter. That's why you have 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.760 a full roster, that's why you have depth. Honestly, more 0:08:58.880 --> 0:08:59.040 of it. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.800 I don't want injuries, obviously nobody does, but we need 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:04.000 more of this physicality. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.720 Why do you feel like it's more of a talking 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.400 point Isaiah now than it was maybe back when you 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:09.880 were playing in the league. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.360 The rules have changed, you know, the parameters in which 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:17.400 guys are allowed to practice the team, the team activities 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.560 have been restricted in terms of the physicality. We used 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.720 to get physical a lot earlier than what these guys 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.680 are OTAs is pretty much, uh, you know, don't touch 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.320 me type of situation now. So when you start talking 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.280 about guys getting calibrated to get ready to play physically 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.839 one of the most physical, physically demanding sports in the 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.920 in the world, you're asking these guys to do it 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.959 really had a drop of a hat. They go from 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.280 playing in shorts and T shirts. All of a sudden, 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:45.760 you show up the camp for a couple of days, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.400 you know, doing the same thing, shorts and T shirts, 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:47.800 and then it's like. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:52.000 All right, let's hit well, have a certain amount of 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:53.000 practices you have to get in. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.520 Yeah, for sure, exactly, and they're doing the best they 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.959 can with the rules and parameters that they have set forth, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.080 but it's not the best per se for the players, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.960 even though the rules and parameters that are set forth 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:06.920 are for the players. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.679 We're starting to see that injuries are peering. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.400 Across the board. This isn't just a Dallas Cowboys state. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.200 There's a lot of injuries around the league right now, 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.520 acls galore. I mean, there's always an injury of the year. 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.120 But the reality is, when you start hitting guys, you 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.520 have to your body. Not only the body parts that 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.240 you're hitting have to get adapted to it, but your 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.720 footwork has to get adapted right, your leverage, your eyes, 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.480 everything has to get back calibrated again. And in that 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.880 calibration process you have to go through some bumps, and 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.880 unfortunately the Dallas Cowboys have sustained their number of bumps 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.920 early on in this process. You're just hopeful, and you 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.400 understand this as a coach, you understand this as an organization. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.280 Injuries are going to happen. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.559 It's just a known thing now, which is why you 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.120 come and the scouting department has as many guys as 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.080 they can ready in the chamber because they know somebody's 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:53.600 going down. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:54.920 It's just a part of the process. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.080 It's like what Shoddy said, and that what you're saying 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.640 right now, Isaiah. It's about building up calluses right now 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.520 and in that calibrations, like Stanbeck said, you're going to 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.120 have some bumps and bruises. But when you look at 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.439 some of these injuries, obviously Rob Jones, you know, the 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.480 fracture bone in his neck, you could attribute that to 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.240 some physicality, which football is going to football, right Tyler Guidon, 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.000 you know the reason he's out because his knee got 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.199 rolled up on, right, So that's not that's footwork, that's 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.480 that's a football injury. But that's not necessarily a tribute 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.640 to the physicality. A guy got pushed down and rolled 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.840 into his knee. Things like that duce Von soft tissue injury, 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.559 hamstring he's dealing with that one year, Thomas, likely a 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:33.439 soft tissue injury. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.240 Those things just happen when you're playing football. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.839 When it comes to potentially turning down the physicality, I 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.200 like that the Cowboys are maxing out the physicality within 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.320 the parameters of the collective bargain agreement they're doing. They're 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.880 pushing exactly where they need to push right up against 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.320 the wall versus what we've seen in the past, which 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.160 is a team and we've seen this as recently as 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.679 last season, so many extra rest days. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.640 But then did that translate into wins? 0:11:59.760 --> 0:11:59.800 No? 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.280 Also, did it translate into durability? Hell no. 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:06.120 The Cowboys were easily arguably the worst or the most 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.400 injured team, especially at key positions with impact players, of 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.559 any of the thirty two teams in the league. So 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.439 where did that extra rest translate on the field for 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:15.000 the Cowboys? 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:15.400 That didn't. 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.520 They put a lot of guys on injured reserve arguably. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:19.880 So I like where the Cowboys are. I like what 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.680 they're doing. And like Isaiah said, this is not exclusive 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:24.760 to the Cowboys. Go and look at the injury reports. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.160 For not injury reports, but go follow the reports coming 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.480 out of other training camps. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.760 They're guys going down left and right at key ziars. Yeah, 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.640 for the year, Cowboys have dodged some very real bullets 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:35.040 thus far. 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.800 Because this time, yeah, this time last year, we were 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.079 talking about a guy who toys ACL doing a non 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.520 contact individual drill around a path. Right, So Cowboys, I 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.679 think they're doing just fine. And yeah, they've been bitting 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.480 a little bit, but keep going. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.080 I like the way you mentioned it as building callouses. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:55.640 I like that metaphor, and I'm going to take it 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.559 a step for further because I think right now you're 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.040 still doing that and you're able to do that. But 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.959 when you're building calluses, sometimes if you attack whatever you 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.320 are doing super quickly and you get into it too quickly, 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.160 sometimes it turns into a blister. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.200 That blister pops, it feels bad for a little bit, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:14.280 and then it callous is over. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.280 I think we're in that stage, yes, I think we're 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.040 in that stage of training camp where we look up 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.439 and we're seeing these injuries and it's every day. It's 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.640 one or two guys and it's happening, and it may 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.679 be a minor thing. It may be a longer thing 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.240 like a guid in situation where it's four to six weeks. Again, 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.079 knock on wood hasn't been the severe side of it yet. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:31.559 That would be the blister. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.559 Popping for me is if there's a severe injury. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.360 Right now, you've got a blister there, it's there, it's 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.040 gonna be there for a little bit, and it's gonna 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.040 hurt for a little bit because you're missing time in practice. 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.040 But as long as you keep it from. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.200 Popping, and it's fine there for a little bit, it's 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.720 gonna sting, but then it'll callous over and you're gonna 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.960 be fine from that point forward, and hopefully that'll. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.800 Help you when you get to the season. You've been 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:52.839 in training camps. 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.559 With guys that mentored Brian Schottenheimer. Pete Carroll specifically is 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.200 one that comes to mind, and he's talked a lot 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.000 about his influence from Pete Carroll in the way that 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:02.160 he's kind of been around it. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.720 How much have you seen from training camp so far 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:05.320 in the weeks that. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.600 You've been out here that has relayed to what Pete 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.559 Carroll once did during his time with the Seahawks. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.240 Yeah's really from what I can understand, it's a copy 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.439 and paste and that's not something bad. That means that 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.280 to coach Carroll. You know, Coach Carroll has had a 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.400 lot of success in his career both about the collegiate 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.760 and professional ranks. Obviously he's back in it now with 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.920 RYTHM Raiders, so I would imagine that they're doing very 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.880 similar things. Yeah, But I mean it's about energy, it's 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:35.160 about competition, real competition. When I say, real competition, let's 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.880 keep it one hundred and in this, in this professional setting, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.280 a lot of times you can do really good things 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.000 if you're a number two or number three guy, but 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.280 it doesn't really matter because you're never going to get 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.080 that number one spot and you never even though you 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.640 might have the best week, they're not going to patch 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.240 you on your back and say get in there, go 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.040 get some reps with the ones because you're not a one. 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.760 That is changing here with Shaddy. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.720 If you have a good week and you're competing and 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.280 doing your job better than somebody else that's that's ahead 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.360 of you on the depth chart, that person's coming out, 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.840 you're going in. So you get paid for doing well, 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.160 you know what I'm saying, Like, you get the gratification of, hey, 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.720 my hard work is paying off, and that is very 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.680 important for athletes to know that your work is not 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.360 going without being noticed. So that's changed around here at 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.200 the energy level, coaches are jumping around. So yeah, sometimes 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:21.640 you gotta fake it so you make it. But if 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.760 you create the culture, you create the environment of positivity, 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.960 you create the environment of you're blessed to do this, 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.400 You create the environment that you want to be here 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.960 and I want to do this. Yeah my body hurts. Yeah, 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.520 you're tired. So the heck what, Let's have fun. We're 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.160 playing a kids game against the best in the world. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.000 Let's make the best of this environment. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.000 And to your point, I don't think you were necessarily 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:42.840 seeing that over the last two seasons. You were seeing 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.840 guys that were working hard and like showing it on 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.120 the field that weren't necessarily rewarded the very next week 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:49.760 after an impressive performance. 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.760 There were these arbitrary rules set in. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:52.800 It's like, oh, well, this. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.720 Guy carried the rock for this amount of time, but like, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:58.280 and you don't have him replicate that success the next week. 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.720 I don't think that's the case for this team right now. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.640 I don't think that's the case for Shotennheimer's staff. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.880 And that really helps your depth chart because I guess 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.200 I'm alluding to a lot right now. Tyler Booker right 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:13.560 comes in here, obviously first round, pick all those things, 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.840 he gets, thrust it in with the ones. Tyler Booker 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.360 had some rough days early on in camp. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:17.920 So what do they do? 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.800 Tyler Boker, you're out. You're going to the twoes player. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:22.680 You gotta work your way back into it. You don't 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.520 just get you'll just receive. You gotta have to earn 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.960 your spot. So, hey, who do I don't remember who 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:28.440 took his stop? 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:29.320 Jones? Yeah, Rob Jones. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.360 Yeah, that's right, Rob Jones took a spot. Unfortunately he's 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.960 out right now. But Rob Jones came in and was 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.800 applying pressure. But what did you see after practice, Rob 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.080 Jones working with Tyler Booker? Is this breeze competition? Everybody 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.760 gets better when it's true competition. One of the reasons 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.880 why I stepped away from the league is because it 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.520 started be coming about about guys being slotted. They started 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.120 be coming about relationships with coaches and if I have, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:55.920 if I'm performing better than you, I. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.520 Should get rewarded for that, right, And that wasn't the case, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:16:59.280 and I was tired of it. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.480 I got to the point I was like, you know what, 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.920 it doesn't matter what I do anymore because I'm never 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.119 gonna get that spot, right. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.960 I don't have that paycheck, I'm not getting that spot. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.600 What's the point of doing it? Right? So, like, what's 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:08.920 the point? 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.840 That's not the case here, And that trickles all the 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.680 way down to the lowest man on the totem pole 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.359 and that creates this culture of everybody can get it, 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.040 everybody can contribute. If you're doing something positive, we will 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:22.680 see you and we will put you in a position 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:23.880 to help this team be successful. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.160 And to that point, it is in fact permeating throughout 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.720 the locker room already when you hear guys like Donovan Ezraku, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.879 a rookie who has no knowledge of the league until 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.560 this training camp, comes in and starts talking about how 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.920 he's going toe to toe verbally and on the field 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.879 with Dante Fowler the defensive ends room. They've established the 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.440 point system, and he and Dante on a couple of plays, 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:46.240 they're challenging each other who's going to get to the 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.000 quarterback first. And Ezraeku got to the quarterback first to 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.160 one particular plane a two minute drill, looked at Dante 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:52.000 and said, where are you at? 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:53.679 I asked Dante about it yesterday. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.200 He smiled and said, young guys got some young guys 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.320 got some gas behind him, but guess what I'm coming 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.439 as well. And then they both are. After that they 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.320 said the same thing, which is this defensive endroom can 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.040 be special. Why because every single guy they believe, every 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.040