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Speaker 4: This He's Talking Cowboys Training live.

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Speaker 5: From Dallas Cowboys Training Gap in Oxnard, California. Six scot

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Speaker 5: tisicks any contents, tosdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 5: Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 4: For the first time in the twenty twenty five NFL season.

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Speaker 4: It is a full crew of Talking Cowboys, presented by

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Speaker 4: Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from Oxnard, California and the

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Speaker 1: Are we cheersing? Is that what it is? Cheersing the

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Speaker 1: microphoneb I mean once we get back home.

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Speaker 6: We did do it the first time across MIC's.

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Speaker 1: And yet it is because what what do you what?

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Speaker 1: This guy listen, this guy's up always. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to attack the twenty twenty five season with you guys.

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Speaker 1: This is a great way to start it.

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Speaker 4: We've got training camp practice today. The pads are coming

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Speaker 4: back on after the day of shells yesterday. Here's the thing, though,

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Speaker 4: what's the thing Cowboys jacket? Cowboys shirt?

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Speaker 1: Cowboys? What is Isaiah wearing there? What does that say?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: You got the shorts on? Did you just flash our views?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what this was going, but I'm glad,

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Speaker 1: glad where it ended.

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Speaker 4: He's got an NFL Network quarter zip on. That's partially

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Speaker 4: why he hasn't been here up until.

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Speaker 7: Why aren't you wearing the pants sorry, the short pants

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Speaker 7: suit that you were wearing yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Because I ready wore it. Once you wear you can't

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Speaker 1: wear it again. Absolutely, that money, you can't have money.

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Speaker 4: He gave it the Beamer Beamers wearing it tomorrow, Beamers

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Speaker 4: rocking shorts today.

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Speaker 1: If only you guys could see Beamers strut right now.

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Speaker 1: So I have on quads out as what these guys

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Speaker 1: are referring to. You know, it's.

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Speaker 8: It's it's the season for quads out. You understanding what

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Speaker 8: I'm saying. I can't really say. I really want to

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Speaker 8: say that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, he's going there.

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Speaker 8: And today was international No Johnny Brovo day, No Johnny,

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Speaker 8: No Johnny Brable, you remember you know who know Johnny?

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Speaker 1: Why would it be Johnny Brobo day? That means it's

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Speaker 1: leg day. That means it's leg day. Okay, Johnny Bravo

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Speaker 1: was top heavy. He looks like a water burger. Cup

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Speaker 1: can relate. Yes, yeah, got that water Burger Cup build

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Speaker 1: people like, say, five hundred yards of lunches today for

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Speaker 1: those that want to.

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Speaker 4: Five hundred, five hundred dardsnod respect, I refuse when I

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Speaker 4: friends the cowboysfully the clin all right, the cowboys.

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Speaker 1: The cowboys are indeed working today.

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Speaker 4: And I want to start by one some news and

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Speaker 4: notes from Patrick Doncy Walk because this injury list is

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Speaker 4: starting to grow.

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Speaker 1: I don't like not just grow, but grow concerning times.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Patrick, what if we just ignored it?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make it go away.

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Speaker 5: It's it's not an out of sight, out of my

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Speaker 5: type deal prow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I still gotta gotta get back to the field, Okay,

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Speaker 5: and so it goes. It's not entirely bad, not great though.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with the offensive line. Obviously, the worst of

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Speaker 5: them is Rob Jones. Offensive lineman Rob Jones suffered a

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Speaker 5: fracture in his neck. He will be out for two

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Speaker 5: to three months. Expectation is mid season. Barneyy setbacks. Also

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Speaker 5: on the offensive line, Tyler Geiton, as we all know,

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Speaker 5: had the scare with the A C. L. It is

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Speaker 5: in fact intact four to six weeks is the prognosis, however,

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Speaker 5: shot he got to the podium yesterday and said something

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Speaker 5: very interesting, said that it could quote unquote be a

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Speaker 5: reacts to the rehab and how aggressively without forcing a setback,

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Speaker 5: Tyler got attacks his rehab. So as it stands, there's

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Speaker 5: still a very good chance that Tyler got In will

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Speaker 5: so again it's not all bad news.

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Speaker 1: There's some good news. He returned, Yeah, he did.

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Speaker 5: Running backs room. Only one injury to report, which is

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Speaker 5: Deuce Vaughan. He is battling the hamstring injury. Obviously, that

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Speaker 1: Okay in the room. Brevin span Ford undisclosed leg injury.

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Speaker 5: He's out for two to three weeks, so he'll likely

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Speaker 5: for some TE two snaps. Wide receiver Paris Campbell undisclosed

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Speaker 5: knee injury to be determined on him. We haven't gotten

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Speaker 5: didn't look promising. I'm not going to say it's worst case.

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Speaker 4: If that's what you heard, I think it may have

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Speaker 4: been unreported, but I think MZL was the rumor.

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Speaker 1: At least it may have been reported.

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Speaker 5: Listen, Kyler is a credible source. Let's go with an

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Speaker 5: Claris Campbell.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to report anything.

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Speaker 5: I'll confirm it. I'll confirm it as it stands. It

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Speaker 5: is a knee injury. Nonetheless, however you slice it. Timeline

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Speaker 5: for return is TBD. Cornerback's Room, KAILN. Carson No, stop it, yeah, can't,

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Speaker 5: can't stop it. Cornerbacks Room in dire straits getting more

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Speaker 5: so Kayln Carson stuff for the hyper extended knee. He

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Speaker 5: will miss four to six weeks. There's a chance he

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Speaker 5: He's taken some strides. Andrew Booth had the best practice

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Speaker 5: Andrew Booth was back on the field yesterday in Shells.

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Speaker 5: We'll see if that's the case when the pads come

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Speaker 5: back on today. Safety one yea Thomas leg injury, no brace,

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Speaker 1: That's a soft tissue injury or whatnot.

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Speaker 5: But would love to see one year back out there

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Speaker 1: Him taking some snaps at Nickel corner as well. So

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Speaker 5: Yes, really quickly, they did sign. They did sign Christian Matthew.

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Speaker 5: He's reuniting with Matty Eberfluss. They spent a short time

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Speaker 5: What does that mean as far as what Matthew can do?

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Speaker 1: We'll see you want for like those eleven or twelve injuries, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing that leads into my next question

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Speaker 4: is we've been through seven practices, seven practices, and yet

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Speaker 4: there's a list of ten to eleven twelve players with injuries,

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Speaker 4: an active injury list where guys are not in practice,

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Speaker 1: About eight or nine guys long.

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Speaker 4: The physicality that Brian Schotenheimer wanted to establish, the physicality

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Speaker 4: we've seen it. We've seen it with the scuffles, We've

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Speaker 4: seen it with the padded practices, we've seen it with

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Speaker 1: Josh, is this still a good thing because of the

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know you want to be physical, you

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Speaker 4: you ready for the season. But right now, with this

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of the rust is falling off.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, whenever you're thudding up, when you're patted up, you're

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Speaker 7: that mixed with the discipline that coach Schottenheimer's trying to instill.

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Speaker 7: The more you're able to do that, the hardened you're

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Speaker 7: going to get on the field. I don't know this

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Speaker 7: from experience. I know Isaiah will have much more insight

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Speaker 7: into this, but when we talked about it, it's like

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Speaker 7: it's such a far cry from what practices used to

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Speaker 7: be when you used to be in pads twice a day.

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Speaker 7: The more you're doing this, the more often you're thudding up.

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Speaker 7: Any closer you get to the simulation of an actual game,

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Speaker 6: That's the fact of the matter. That's why you have

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Speaker 6: a full roster, that's why you have depth. Honestly, more

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Speaker 7: I don't want injuries, obviously nobody does, but we need

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Speaker 7: more of this physicality.

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Speaker 4: Why do you feel like it's more of a talking

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Speaker 8: The rules have changed, you know, the parameters in which

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Speaker 8: one of the most physical, physically demanding sports in the

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Speaker 8: in the world, you're asking these guys to do it

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Speaker 8: really had a drop of a hat. They go from

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Speaker 8: playing in shorts and T shirts. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 8: you show up the camp for a couple of days,

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Speaker 4: All right, let's hit well, have a certain amount of

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Speaker 4: practices you have to get in.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure, exactly, and they're doing the best they

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Speaker 8: can with the rules and parameters that they have set forth,

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Speaker 8: but it's not the best per se for the players,

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Speaker 8: even though the rules and parameters that are set forth

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Speaker 1: We're starting to see that injuries are peering.

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Speaker 8: Across the board. This isn't just a Dallas Cowboys state.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of injuries around the league right now,

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Speaker 8: acls galore. I mean, there's always an injury of the year.

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Speaker 8: But the reality is, when you start hitting guys, you

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Speaker 8: you're hitting have to get adapted to it, but your

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Speaker 8: footwork has to get adapted right, your leverage, your eyes,

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Speaker 8: everything has to get back calibrated again. And in that

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Speaker 8: unfortunately the Dallas Cowboys have sustained their number of bumps

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Speaker 8: early on in this process. You're just hopeful, and you

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Speaker 8: understand this as a coach, you understand this as an organization.

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Speaker 1: Injuries are going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It's just a part of the process.

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Speaker 5: It's like what Shoddy said, and that what you're saying

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Speaker 1: But then did that translate into wins?

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Speaker 5: The Cowboys were easily arguably the worst or the most

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Speaker 5: So I like where the Cowboys are. I like what

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Speaker 1: They're guys going down left and right at key ziars. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Because this time, yeah, this time last year, we were

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Speaker 5: think they're doing just fine. And yeah, they've been bitting

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Speaker 4: I like the way you mentioned it as building callouses.

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Speaker 4: when you're building calluses, sometimes if you attack whatever you

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Speaker 4: sometimes it turns into a blister.

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Speaker 1: That blister pops, it feels bad for a little bit,

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Speaker 4: I think we're in that stage, yes, I think we're

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Speaker 1: Popping for me is if there's a severe injury.

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Speaker 4: Right now, you've got a blister there, it's there, it's

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Speaker 4: With guys that mentored Brian Schottenheimer. Pete Carroll specifically is

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Speaker 4: You've been out here that has relayed to what Pete

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Speaker 8: Yeah's really from what I can understand, it's a copy

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Speaker 8: to coach Carroll. You know, Coach Carroll has had a

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Speaker 8: similar things. Yeah, But I mean it's about energy, it's

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Speaker 8: about competition, real competition. When I say, real competition, let's

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Speaker 8: keep it one hundred and in this, in this professional setting,

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Speaker 8: a lot of times you can do really good things

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Speaker 1: That is changing here with Shaddy.

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Speaker 8: If you have a good week and you're competing and

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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, Like, you get the gratification of, hey,

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Speaker 8: the energy level, coaches are jumping around. So yeah, sometimes

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Speaker 8: You create the environment that you want to be here

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Speaker 8: and I want to do this. Yeah my body hurts. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you're tired. So the heck what, Let's have fun. We're

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Speaker 7: And to your point, I don't think you were necessarily

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Speaker 6: There were these arbitrary rules set in.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, well, this.

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Speaker 7: Guy carried the rock for this amount of time, but like,

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's the case for this team right now.

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Speaker 8: And that really helps your depth chart because I guess

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Speaker 8: You gotta work your way back into it. You don't

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, Rob Jones took a spot. Unfortunately he's

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Speaker 8: Jones working with Tyler Booker? Is this breeze competition? Everybody

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Speaker 8: gets better when it's true competition. One of the reasons

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Speaker 8: be coming about relationships with coaches and if I have,

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Speaker 8: if I'm performing better than you, I.

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Speaker 1: Should get rewarded for that, right, And that wasn't the case,

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Speaker 8: I got to the point I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I don't have that paycheck, I'm not getting that spot.

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Speaker 8: That's not the case here, And that trickles all the

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Speaker 5: And to that point, it is in fact permeating throughout

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Speaker 1: So not only do you have that heightened level of.

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Speaker 5: You talk about Rob, right, we talk about Rob Jones

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 4: There's a couple of things that we have to hit

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Speaker 6: That's camaraderie building, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And that's the type of stuff.

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Speaker 8: I know, we gotta get a break, but but real quick,

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Speaker 8: and I'm absolutely can get it, and I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: Now I'm willing to step out right unless somebody else can.

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Speaker 1: SIT's all of it together, Talk Cowboys Complex. Right now,

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Speaker 1: You're darn right. It is Carton, It's training camp.

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Speaker 4: D Isaiah Stanba Patrick Noci watched John Rodriguez with Chris

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Speaker 4: Beam running the whole show in the front. I'm Kyle

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Speaker 4: yeomans Uh running backs. This running back Battle has been

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Speaker 4: definitely to watch.

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Speaker 1: Is it heating up?

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Speaker 10: It is?

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to get to that in

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Speaker 1: a second.

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Speaker 4: Is the offensive line and the rotation that we've seen

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Speaker 4: in the injuries that have started to stack up Josh

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Speaker 4: on this offensive line. Is that something that's affecting just

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Speaker 4: how much that running back competition can heat up at

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Speaker 4: training camp?

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Speaker 1: Of course it is.

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Speaker 7: I mean you have to take into account the chemistry

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Speaker 7: of the offensive line feeding into the success of the

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Speaker 7: running backs.

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Speaker 6: But something that I.

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Speaker 7: Really really enjoyed on Girls Talk, Boys Talk this morning

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Speaker 7: when they were talking about the running back by committee

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Speaker 7: approach is that it doesn't necessarily feel like a committee.

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Speaker 7: It feels more like a collective and when the running

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Speaker 7: backs are able to sort of spell in for each other,

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Speaker 7: they all have juice in one form or another. Like

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Speaker 7: at this point in time, it could it could change

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Speaker 7: from today till the start of preseason to the start

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Speaker 7: of the regular season. But right now, from what I'm seeing,

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Speaker 7: every single guy is contributing in a big way. It

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Speaker 7: sucks to see duce Vaughan right now dealing with that

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Speaker 7: hamstring injury. He's not been able to be in on it.

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Speaker 7: But when he is out there on that field. You're

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Speaker 7: getting juice from Ducevaughn. You're getting juice from every single

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Speaker 7: one of these guys. If you had to ask me

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Speaker 7: right now, who's starting, I think it's Javonte Williams.

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Speaker 6: And I genuinely think that, oh.

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Speaker 1: See, that's interesting. That's gonna be a fun thing.

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Speaker 4: But hear me out, because I bet you are like

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Speaker 4: as a group of four, I bet you all are

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Speaker 4: answers are different.

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Speaker 6: Well here's my full answer.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe maybe not all of them, but they're going

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Speaker 1: to be different.

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Speaker 7: My full answer is that it's Davante Williams. He has

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Speaker 7: the most juice right now currently, Like I said, that

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Speaker 7: can change. And then Jayden Blue is your receiving sort

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Speaker 7: of third down threat my opinion. And then if you're

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Speaker 7: thinking in terms of like how the Lions were treating

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Speaker 7: David Montgomery, like I think Miles Sanders is your kind

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Speaker 7: of like second half bell cow, you know, he's that

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Speaker 7: kind of those fresh legs to come in and get

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Speaker 7: you some crucial first downs. I think if you're playing,

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Speaker 7: that's just a scenario that I've kind of cooked up

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Speaker 7: just from watching these guys there year. And I don't

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Speaker 7: think that Miles Sanders, like doesn't have jews. It's just

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Speaker 7: a matter of the fact of seeing him with fresh legs,

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Speaker 7: you know, in the second half of a game. I

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Speaker 7: think that's kind of where you want to see him.

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Speaker 7: But it could change who would.

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Speaker 5: Be your starter right now, you know, coming into camp,

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Speaker 5: I am on the record of saying that Javonte Williams

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Speaker 5: likely had a slight and I do meanin we all

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Speaker 5: were likely. But now as we go into this next

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Speaker 5: padded practice, I think Miles Sanders, So I think it's

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Speaker 5: Miles Sanders. So for me right now, it's Mouths Sanders

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Speaker 5: because what I've seen from Miles Sanders also that's impressed

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Speaker 5: me is obviously we've watched him in his time with.

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Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that he's ever been or that I've

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Speaker 5: ever noticed as much as I'm noticing now he's more

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Speaker 5: physical than people give him credit for. Yeah, he definitely

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Speaker 5: has the ability to do the dirty work and the

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Speaker 5: heavy lifting in those in those dirty gaps.

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Speaker 7: Point though he's a vet at this point, I think

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Speaker 7: he has to be a little more physical than we've

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Speaker 7: seen him in the past. I think that's why you're

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Speaker 7: seeing that now hence the second half sort of votes.

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Speaker 5: So to that point, take Week one, for example, against

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Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Eagles, I specifically as shoddy with you having

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Speaker 5: questions that left tackle do you how do you balance

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Speaker 5: giving trust to your left tackle against that defensive front

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Speaker 5: in Philadelphia versus scheming for it? And one of the

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Speaker 5: answers he said was against an elite defensive front and

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Speaker 5: defensive tackles, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: You pound the dawn ball and you showed up there

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Speaker 1: blank right.

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Speaker 5: I think Miles Sanders would give you a little bit

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Speaker 5: more edge in doing that than Javonte Williams, who are

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Speaker 5: not to say that Javonte can't, but again, it just

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Speaker 5: feels like Miles is more prepared to take that load,

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Speaker 5: take on that load up front. So for me, it

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Speaker 5: would be Miles Sanders, Davonte Williams, and then Jayden Blue.

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Speaker 5: I do agree with you there, Jay and Blue is

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Speaker 5: really taking advantage of those added reps that would be

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Speaker 5: split between he and duce Vaughan, which is why it's

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Speaker 5: critical that ducevont get back to the field sooner than later.

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Speaker 8: Oh guys, come on, First of all, let me be

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Speaker 8: on record stating that there's not a drastic difference between

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Speaker 8: these guys.

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Speaker 1: Know, That's why we keep saying the slight, slight, slight

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Speaker 1: start by that.

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Speaker 8: Also, let me start by stating running back by committee

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Speaker 8: is not a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I don't see it though. Last year

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Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't see it that way.

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Speaker 6: Last year was a bad thing.

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Speaker 8: I'm on record, I'm on record for a very long

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Speaker 8: time stating that if the offensive line take care of

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Speaker 8: the business, it doesn't really matter who's towing the rock

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Speaker 8: in the NFL, because they are all capable of producing. Right,

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Speaker 8: what is the difference maker? Okay, let's get into that.

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Speaker 8: The difference usually comes into are you protecting the ball

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Speaker 8: number one?

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Speaker 1: Number one?

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Speaker 8: Okay, protect the ball number two? Are you able to

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Speaker 8: generate splash plays?

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Speaker 1: Number three? Can you pass block? Those are the three

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Speaker 1: things that really differentiae player from the next.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So now let's go to the guys that we're

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Speaker 8: talking about, Miles Sanders Andvonte Williams.

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Speaker 1: They're very similar to me, to me in terms of

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Speaker 1: who has more juice.

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Speaker 8: From what I've seen at camp, I think Williams is

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Speaker 8: is more is significantly quicker than I gave him credit

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Speaker 8: for prior to come into camp. He has more bursts

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Speaker 8: and more explosiveness than I assumed that he had, so

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Speaker 8: for me, I put.

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Speaker 1: Him ahead of Sanders from that.

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Speaker 8: From that regard, I think that he has more speed

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Speaker 8: and acceleration and the ability to get up the top

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Speaker 8: speed more than Miles Sanders as right.

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Speaker 4: Now, interesting because I think I would say the opposite.

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Speaker 4: That's why that's why we have four different eyes here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's close. I mean I don't like it's it's not.

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Speaker 8: Like it's it's it's not a It's not a four

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Speaker 8: or five versus a four to three, right, I mean

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Speaker 8: we're talking about just from what I'm seeing. When Fonte

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Speaker 8: Williams hits a hole, he gets through there and you

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Speaker 8: can see the acceleration at the next level. That's what

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Speaker 8: I see in terms of who has the best vision,

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Speaker 8: Jayden Blue Blue has had the best vision to me,

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Speaker 8: out of everybody.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 8: I know everybody talks about his speed a lot of time.

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Speaker 8: I know, I honestly haven't seen it yet. I've seen

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Speaker 8: I haven't seen it yet. I'm looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 8: looking forward to seeing it in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have seen it fully uncorked yet.

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Speaker 1: Out here, we may not.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing about these training camp practices. Tuesday with

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Speaker 4: maybe Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: I think the play that I've really seen it was

662
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Speaker 1: the deep play one handed go route. I'm talking about

663
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: toting the rocket. Yeah.

664
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Speaker 8: In terms of vision, his vision and his patience at

665
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage is pretty dog on good for

666
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 8: a young guy man. He'll put his foot in the ground,

667
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 8: he'll jump a hole, boom, he'll accelerate. That's what you

668
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 8: really need in this scheme that we're running, rather his

669
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 8: own scheme type of type of offense. There's a lot

670
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 8: of wait and see. You guys remember the old school

671
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 8: uh Broncos with Terrell Davis. There was a lot of

672
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 8: wait and see press press, press, press, press, one cut,

673
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 8: get vertical, right, press press, press, ress, press, make one

674
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 8: guy missed.

675
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: Get vertical. Like a lot of that's a typically what

676
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna see.

677
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 8: It's going to be a slower, methodical, sorry, methodical type

678
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 8: of offense.

679
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: And that's the expect that's my expectation of this office.

680
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 8: And then you have the splash plays and the clear

681
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 8: eyes half a running and second half in running and

682
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 8: then obviously in the play action.

683
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 5: So my question to you say where because one of

684
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 5: the tenants. You're right, the three tenants for running back.

685
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: One of the tenants was protect the ball? Yes, where

686
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 5: you with Jayson Blue?

687
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: Right now?

688
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: Now he's not putting it on the ground in camp,

689
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 5: but that that was a red flag for him coming

690
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 5: into the league.

691
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Speaker 1: Where's your comfort level with with him? Right there? Went

692
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: now on that.

693
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Speaker 8: I haven't seen it on the ground, So I guess

694
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 8: my carmera level was high at this point. But again,

695
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 8: wait till Tuesday?

696
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Speaker 1: What was that? How many practices? This is gonna be? Okay?

697
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Speaker 1: So this is number three and I do know this,

698
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Speaker 1: This is not This is not to knock Jayme and

699
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 1: Blue at all.

700
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: I do see the progression as far as protecting the Yeah,

701
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 5: the question will be how does that translate to the.

702
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: Eagles doing it and the defensive line of the Giants

703
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: doing it. So that's what I mean.

704
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 8: That's a different mindset when you know that you're not

705
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 8: going to the ground intentionally. When you know that you're

706
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 8: not intentionally going to the ground. Now, guys are ended

707
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 8: up on the ground obviously it's football, and you're trying

708
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 8: to stay up.

709
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: If he get tangled.

710
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 8: Tuesday, I don't think that the other teams necessarily don't

711
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 8: care about. So I think you'll get a better sense

712
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 8: once that competitive level steps up. Yeah, what it really

713
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 8: looks like it as a game.

714
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 5: As it stands, James Blue is, he's on my roster,

715
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 5: He's on my active fifty three. I just need to

716
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: see him consistently protect the ball as he's been doing

717
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 5: in camp. Just keep doing it, and you're really gonna

718
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 5: he's gonna push Sanders and Williams.

719
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: Is that group of three?

720
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 5: It is?

721
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 4: That?

722
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 6: That's my three Alam Sanders, Blue Active.

723
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: It's pretty much over by that point.

724
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 8: I think they're gonna try to force the hand of Lok.

725
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 8: They're gonna try to find a way to get lit

726
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 8: necessarily counting.

727
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 5: Don't count him in the running backs conversation as far

728
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: as active, as like it's three and then my full

729
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: back quas I believe that they're going to try to

730
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: Hunter makes the Ross find we're not we're not talking

731
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: about Hunter in my in my perspective, he's going to

732
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 5: make the RUSS. So when I say I'm I'm carrying

733
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 5: three running backs right now, I'm not talking about Hunter

734
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: because he's going to make the roster as like a standalone.

735
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: He's his own island, you know what I mean.

736
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: And guys like Phil Maffa, I'm just are destined to

737
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: be a well season.

738
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 8: Possibly, these guys are gonna get a lot opporunities at

739
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 8: the running back position in the preseason.

740
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. Still ten days away from the

741
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: preseason game.

742
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 8: We can have our opinions today at that position group,

743
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 8: we won't know a lot until the game start.

744
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to seeing MafA do some bruise work.

745
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 5: He's going to be a bruiser in the preseason.

746
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 6: I believe there's just so many names. I I think

747
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 6: it is a commitative room.

748
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 7: And like I said, what I really liked was running

749
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 7: back by uh, not committee, but collective. I think that's

750
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 7: it's It's something to watch obviously, but I think we're

751
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 7: really going to get some answers uh in the preseason.

752
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: I really do.

753
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 5: Cavant Turpin is in the mix also, Yeah, as far

754
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 5: as being utilized as a running back.

755
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: But he's going to make the rosters. Ye, he's gonna

756
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: be one of the mean as far as because he's

757
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: getting some reps.

758
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: So the reps that they give Kavan say gets removed

759
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 5: from the other running back, So that means you really

760
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 5: need to take advantage of them.

761
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: Every single I'm on record just as much as you

762
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: guys were talking about earlier. I'm on a record I

763
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: hate running back by committee. I'm just not a fan

764
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: of it.

765
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I like how many teams don't

766
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: have that? How many? That's the thing is, it's rare

767
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: to not have it, Yes, exactly, Yeah, I mean it's.

768
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: Rare to have Yeah, to have a bell cow theymore,

769
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 4: but you don't have that, and so you got to

770
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: make what do?

771
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: What's what's do? But you want one of these guys

772
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: to emerge, you know, you don't want all.

773
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: Three guys to just be kumbay all all year long

774
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 4: because they're all going to have six hundred yards.

775
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't mind that.

776
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 8: I would listen as long as the offense, yeah, is

777
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 8: consistently getting four yards of pop.

778
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: I am okay. I don't give a dog on who

779
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: has it in their house.

780
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 8: As long as they're not putting it on the ground,

781
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 8: and as long as they have an occasional two or

782
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 8: three splash players out of that position group, I don't

783
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 8: care who it comes from.

784
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: That I truly don't see but that's like fun fun

785
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: Matt magical world that doesn't exist. All three guys doing that,

786
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: then that means you have the perfect line, situation or line.

787
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: Somebody's gonna fall short and somebody's gonna step in.

788
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 5: I will see that point, and I'll raise you the

789
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 5: following point. Ride the hot hand whoever. That might be

790
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 5: the problem with last year and the way they come No,

791
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 5: I'm we're talking about on record.

792
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm on the record.

793
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: I hate the committee, your point, whoever, whomever, who emerges

794
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 5: as the hot hand, rather it be week one, week two,

795
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: you ride that because if you look at last season,

796
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 5: the reason it took them so long for Rico Dawdle

797
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 5: to really start becoming that lead back was because they

798
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: stuck to the archetype that they had already pre established

799
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 5: before they went into the season. But when Rico was

800
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 5: the only one really showing the juice, that was the

801
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 5: hot head at the time. Had you continued to ride Rico,

802
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 5: what does this rushing attack look like over the totality

803
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 5: of last year, if you didn't strap them, if you

804
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 5: didn't handcuff him because you were saying, oh, it's committee's

805
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 5: committee's committee.

806
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: You look at these guys, And I.

807
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: Like the word collective if you look at them as

808
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 5: a collective, and you say Miles Sanders, Davonte Williams, assuming

809
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 5: this is the three that make the active roster, not

810
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 5: County Hunter, Lifkey, Miles Sanders, Davonte Williams, Jayson Blue. You say,

811
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 5: go out there, and whoever has the best game today

812
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 5: has the best shot of starting next week, and then

813
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 5: rents and repeat until that person, if that player cools down,

814
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 5: if that player starts.

815
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 6: To cool, says the most consistent collective.

816
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: Collective. Yeah, I'm with collect committee. Collective, it's the same thing.

817
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 7: But but let me let me just say this running

818
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 7: back by committee has given us a sour taste over

819
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 7: the past three seasons. Right, we haven't had that guy

820
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 7: that guy considerably in the last three seasons. When other

821
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 7: teams do it, there is more of a cohesive understanding

822
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 7: of one running back over the others taking the ball.

823
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: That's what I like. That's what I like. That's what

824
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't like.

825
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 7: What we've been given in the running back by coach

826
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 7: over the last three that's what I like. We have

827
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 7: to change that, and I think this coaching staff is

828
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 7: doing that now.

829
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 5: The week Polot Dynamic was very effective with a change

830
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: of pace back as RB three.

831
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: We haven't had that. I haven't had it. I don't

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Speaker 1: like sea words. All right.

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Speaker 11: AI.

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Speaker 1: Yeah there yet?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, all right ever skip leg stock up, stock down, gentlemen,

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Speaker 4: cowboys have gone through seven practices, two of those padded.

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Speaker 1: We will have practice number eightven.

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Speaker 4: That's seven practices, going into practice number eight today and

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Speaker 4: this practice number three, kads, I'm gonna do a little

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Speaker 4: stock up, stock down, and at the end, I want

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Speaker 4: you guys to throw in a couple names that you're saying,

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Speaker 4: stock up or stock down. But I'm gonna start with

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Speaker 4: three topics here that since the start of training camp,

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Speaker 4: this is the direction they've been heading.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the overarching one, Brian Schottenheimer stock

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Speaker 1: up and stock down? Stock up? Okay?

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Speaker 5: Why is that everything that he was saying over the

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Speaker 5: course of the off season, we're seeing it put into

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Speaker 5: play on the practice field. One thing he didn't mention

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Speaker 5: in the off season was the type of disciplinarian that

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Speaker 5: he would be. But we're seeing his late great father

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Speaker 5: Marty being channeled through example.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, the guy's got into a skirmish two or three times.

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Speaker 5: Three times with fifteen minutes left in practice, Schottenheimer killed practice, said, oh,

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Speaker 5: you guys want to fight, then let's fight. Made everybody,

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Speaker 5: everybody from franchise players to the nineth man on the

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Speaker 5: roster and lineup and run sideline the sideline for the

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Speaker 5: remaining fifteen minutes before then giving them an.

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Speaker 1: Earfull on why he's not going to accept that.

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Speaker 5: We're starting to see Shoddy is not simply a great

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Speaker 5: communicator and a player's type coach. But he's that same

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Speaker 5: players coach that looked the player in the face and

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Speaker 5: tell him straight up when you're messing up, and then

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Speaker 5: make him accountable and make and penalize them for it.

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Speaker 5: So for me, a stock up, I see everything translating

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Speaker 5: so far. Again, we'll see how it happens when you

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Speaker 5: play the Eagles and the Giants and the Commanders and

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Speaker 5: all these other teams. Time will tell, But as it stands,

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Speaker 5: I like this hard nosed Marty ball type feel that

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Speaker 5: I'm that I'm seeing out here.

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Speaker 4: You could have done that run yesterday, the back and forth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it wasn't really gas, it wasn't, but it was

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Speaker 4: just getting there and getting back. There were no timers.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's the next step show, Maybe that's the

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Speaker 4: next step. Is it's like, okay, here's the warning shot.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you know, sate sideline pain, I'm sorry next time. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: traumatic looks like one of those.

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Speaker 1: All right, stock stock down, you guys agree, stock up?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna give Brian Schottenheimer stuck up.

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Speaker 7: But like a cryptocurrency, because it's not real yet, you

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Like it's it's going up steadily.

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Speaker 6: It's like my bitcoin right now where it's kind of

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Speaker 6: like it's.

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Speaker 1: Stead going how many of those? But it ain't real

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Speaker 1: because we haven't played.

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Speaker 6: A football game yet.

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Speaker 7: Man, Once we are playing football games, once it is real,

949
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Speaker 7: the statistics are real, all of those things happen, then

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Speaker 7: I can actually take that money out.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about this point.

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Speaker 7: Like I said, it's stuck up, but it ain't order

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Speaker 7: of one in a quarter of one of your quarter

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Speaker 7: of one point to to to to one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my bitcoin situation, right.

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Speaker 1: I want myn equivalent wasn't but I can't use it yet.

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Speaker 1: Offensive line stock up or stock down to the beginning

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Speaker 1: of can because I have.

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Speaker 4: A couple different there's a different few folds to this.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead and give me your ants down as a

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Speaker 4: stock down stock.

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Speaker 8: Down reasons being injuries sustained and also I have not

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Speaker 8: seen the dominance that I was hoping to see as

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Speaker 8: a collective unit collective units more than one person collective unit.

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Speaker 6: Up front, you can't do offensive line by committee.

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Speaker 1: I heard the snort le I'm so done, thing continued.

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Speaker 5: I'm going I'm going stock down because of injuries, like

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Speaker 5: I said, Terrence Steele missed some practices because of injury.

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Speaker 5: He's back, but you know he wasn't out there for

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Speaker 5: a couple Tyler guy and he goes down with injury.

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Speaker 5: Now you're trying to figure out left tackle. Rob Jones

972
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Speaker 5: was showing you some things. Now he's out for two

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Speaker 5: to three nicks with two to three months with the

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Speaker 5: fracture and his nick. I mean, what you're seeing right

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Speaker 5: now is Cooper BB be consistent and improve. You're seeing

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Speaker 5: Tyler Smith still still very much be Tyler Smith. Tyler

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Speaker 5: Booker is flashing, but like you said, there were things

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Speaker 5: he struggled with in the beginning, which is why he

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Speaker 5: went down to second team. So other than Cooper BB

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Speaker 5: and Tyler Smith, those are my two positives. The other

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Speaker 5: three positions between injuries and flux, it's stuck down at

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Speaker 5: the moment.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because I would say, Josh, my confidence in

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Speaker 4: the depth of the offensive line has gone up, but

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Speaker 4: the fact that you're having to use it so quickly

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Speaker 4: is going The overarching stock is going down.

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Speaker 1: I like what we've seen from Nate Thomas.

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Speaker 4: I think he's stepped into a left tackle roll yesterday

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Speaker 4: and played well. I'm excited to see what he does

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Speaker 4: with the pads on today. I think that's going to

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Speaker 4: be a big step forward. I like what we've seen

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Speaker 4: from guys like Bass and Hoffman.

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Speaker 1: That's genuinely what we've seen at right tackle, not at

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Speaker 1: the guard spot. He was at right tackle.

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Speaker 7: Name you didn't mention, which I'm curious about. I guess

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Speaker 7: your evaluation so far is awesome Richards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think Richards has had a decent camp.

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Speaker 4: He's not perfect, not perfect, and I think there's there's

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Speaker 4: growing that's still happening there.

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Speaker 1: But they've put him at left tackle too, and I think.

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Speaker 6: You are you are you giving? Are you giving? Not awesome?

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Speaker 7: But they have a left tackles a tom Are you

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Speaker 7: giving him the edge over awesome right now at.

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Speaker 1: The moment they are.

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Speaker 4: I would have started awesome first and seen what he did,

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Speaker 4: But now I get why. I mean, I saw that

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Speaker 4: he had a great practice yesterday. No, Pats still had

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Speaker 4: a good practice. I want to see what it is

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Speaker 4: today and then I'll give you a better answer of that.

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Speaker 4: But I like what we've seen from the death so far.

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Speaker 4: It's the death. But I also don't like what we've

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Speaker 4: seen from two first round picks, so you're down and

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Speaker 4: your right tackle. So I'm down over all, down overall,

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Speaker 4: but the death I like.

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 6: The suck is down.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to tell me that it was

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Speaker 1: up because of the death, I don't think I would

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Speaker 1: argue with you. But I'm I'm still down.

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Speaker 7: Stock is down, but I'm definitely holding on the offensive line.

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Speaker 7: You have to hold out hope for for this one.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 6: If you actually have stock in this, it's down, but

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Speaker 6: you're not panicking yet.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of the running back position. Same thing you're

1026
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Speaker 4: holding out. It's kind of like that.

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Speaker 1: Let's say, defensive line, you gotta break it out. You

1028
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Speaker 1: got to break you see, and that's what's gonna make it.

1029
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Speaker 1: It's like training. I'm trying to massage those brain muscles

1030
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Speaker 1: a little bit. We're trying to get you going. It

1031
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Speaker 1: is combined defensive line upper down. What are you thinking,

1032
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm go ahead, I'm going up. I'm going up.

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Speaker 1: I like what I've seen in terms of.

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Speaker 8: The schemes in the position of flex that this defensive

1035
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Speaker 8: line room collectively okay, uh, presents for mat and he

1036
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Speaker 8: is in his bag. I'm not going to say all

1037
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Speaker 8: the things that I'm seeing because I think some of

1038
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Speaker 8: these things he wants to keep tight to his chest,

1039
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Speaker 8: but he is playing around with every defensive look that

1040
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Speaker 8: you can ever imagine. He's playing around with all the

1041
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Speaker 8: different personnel groupings within those schemes that you can ever imagine.

1042
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Speaker 8: Because of this this competition word that we keep talking about,

1043
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Speaker 8: there's gonna be plenty of guys that are going to

1044
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Speaker 8: be collectively making an impact on that defensive front.

1045
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Speaker 5: I do like the competition as a sea where I

1046
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Speaker 5: agree with say I'm going with stock Up. That's That's

1047
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Speaker 5: what I was going to lead with. And I'm going

1048
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Speaker 5: to say stock up because though there are some question

1049
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: marks at Nose Tackle, you know, what are they doing

1050
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 5: with Manzi Smith?

1051
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: What is that that latest version of the experiment look like?

1052
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 5: Uh?

1053
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: I look.

1054
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Speaker 5: I like what I'm saying from Salomon Thomas. I love

1055
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 5: what I'm seeing from OSA. You're you're getting the Osa

1056
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Speaker 5: of prime Os. It looks like j Toya pleasantly surprised

1057
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 5: me yesterday by being awarded some first team reps. So

1058
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Speaker 5: there's some progress there and I think remind me of

1059
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Speaker 5: in terms of just looks Videvelle Nope.

1060
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Speaker 1: I wanted to just to say I want him to

1061
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: put a visor on. If you put a visor on,

1062
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Speaker 1: maybe you would.

1063
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Speaker 5: Know reflective Nope, dark uh NFC Easca, North Green Bay.

1064
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Yep.

1065
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Speaker 5: Gilbert, Yeah, there it is there. It is there, It

1066
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Speaker 5: is there, it is I looked up and I was

1067
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Speaker 5: like that, Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, I see where

1068
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Speaker 5: you're going here. It was a black vice around He's

1069
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Speaker 5: Gilbert Brown. But so there there are there are questions.

1070
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Speaker 5: Now you're right there, So there are question marks on

1071
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Speaker 5: the defensive tackle. There are at least some positives there.

1072
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Speaker 5: And then when you look at the defensive end group,

1073
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Speaker 5: you could not be more up. You could not be

1074
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Speaker 5: more up. So as a whole, I mean you could be.

1075
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Speaker 5: There could be a guy named Michaeh. Parsons out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm factory.

1077
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Speaker 5: That would be you'd be He'll be there, surely I'm factory.

1078
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Speaker 5: Michael in you Again, you could not be more up

1079
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Speaker 5: with this defensive end room. So, if anything, the d's

1080
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: are carrying this grade. But there are some positives mixed

1081
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 5: in with some of the concerns at DT.

1082
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Speaker 7: You gotta love what Salmon Thomas is doing so far.

1083
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 7: You gotta love what you see from Osa and the

1084
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 7: depth behind it. I mean, like I said, Ja is

1085
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 7: doing an impressive job out there with the twos and

1086
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Speaker 7: like you said, getting reps with the ones as well.

1087
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Speaker 7: Other than that, the defensive ends are doing excellent. Like

1088
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Speaker 7: you have to love the the depth that you have

1089
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 7: there easy is just a monster.

1090
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 6: He's getting in people's business. It's almost defensive.

1091
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: Smirk. You have to love it.

1092
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Speaker 7: There is a big question mark for me at defensive tackle,

1093
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Speaker 7: but so far, so good as far as defensive line goes.

1094
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Speaker 6: As a whole, stock is way.

1095
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Speaker 1: Up on defense and really quickly.

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Speaker 5: I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Perry on Winfree

1097
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Speaker 5: is he's he's standing out. I'm not going to say

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Speaker 5: he's out there, you know, taking over, but he's standing out.

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Speaker 5: So that goes to the DT equation.

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Speaker 6: I saw Tyrus Wheat blowing a dude up yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, we we when it comes to yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: we's a sleeper when you see that no one out

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Speaker 1: the game wrecks in the preseason. You know what position?

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Speaker 1: Defensive end?

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Speaker 8: What do you know?

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Speaker 4: Anybody y'all want to throw out their stock ups, stock

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Speaker 4: down stock that's a big stock and I'm going to

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Speaker 4: leave it there.

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Speaker 1: What about Joe Milton? Stock up? Stock down down? I

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Speaker 1: think so too.

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Speaker 6: Stock down on Joe Milton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is that? Well, there's there's a lot of pretsons.

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Speaker 1: Why but we don't have to at the time.

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Speaker 6: Real quick, But are you looking forward to seeing him

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Speaker 6: in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we're gonna We're gonna see a ton of and

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Speaker 1: he has turn his stock around.

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Speaker 6: But if your stocks down, I mean you're just like, okay,

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Speaker 6: well then you know no.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, don't stock mark. It's the stock market

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Speaker 5: in an instant can it can explode.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they invested anybody else names go receivers, Yeah, receivers

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Speaker 4: stocking up, stock.

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Speaker 5: Down, mingle mingo down, that said mingles up. Let me say,

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Speaker 5: let me say this practice squad Holden is open. Yeah, yes, seriously, he's.

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Speaker 1: Got a good camp.

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Speaker 6: So I'm dead serious.

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Speaker 7: Practice squad stuck up because you're seeing some guys step

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Speaker 7: up here. And we've talked about it even in the

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Speaker 7: last seasons where it's like the when you needed receivers

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Speaker 7: to step up to that wide receiver three position last year,

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Speaker 7: it wasn't really I mean, it happened in spurts. One

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Speaker 7: guy would have day, another guy would have a day.

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Speaker 7: Treh On Holden has been very consistent so far. I

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Speaker 7: like watching him. Whenever I get out there, I kind

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Speaker 7: of look for his number. And even Ryan Flinoy yep,

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Speaker 7: I like what you're seeing from him so far.

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Speaker 6: Uh, just building a topic about it.

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Speaker 1: Change his number. We gotta go. Gam is gonna start

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Speaker 1: unplugging microphones to start spam.

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Speaker 4: But we also forgot. We forgot to give our comments

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Speaker 4: of the day. Jeremy said, Isaiah hitting the punching bag

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Speaker 4: was crazy week. Not gonna lie dot dot do crazy

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Speaker 4: weezy crazy crazy week week crazy crazy all right for

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Speaker 4: Isaiah still back, Patrick, you know see Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 4: I'm Kyle Yom. It's Chris Beam in the back with

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Speaker 4: more Talking Cowboys coming up on Monday.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you from Oxnard, California next week.

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